You stupid stupid morons... Do you realize you might just d

The US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement will have zero influence on either pollution levels or the climate of the Earth.

>Weather is supposed to be constant.

>>128623198
here is a great video on the topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_RuverrEZ4

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>>128623198
Sorry we decided to not fund your pet warlords in Africa you smelly baguette

>>128623198
>Updated NASA Data: Global Warming Not Causing Any Polar Ice Retreat

>Updated data from NASA satellite instruments reveal the Earth’s polar ice caps have not receded at all since the satellite instruments began measuring the ice caps in 1979. Since the end of 2012, moreover, total polar ice extent has largely remained above the post-1979 average. The updated data contradict one of the most frequently asserted global warming claims – that global warming is causing the polar ice caps to recede.

The timing of the 1979 NASA satellite instrument launch could not have been better for global warming alarmists. The late 1970s marked the end of a 30-year cooling trend. As a result, the polar ice caps were quite likely more extensive than they had been since at least the 1920s. Nevertheless, this abnormally extensive 1979 polar ice extent would appear to be the “normal” baseline when comparing post-1979 polar ice extent.

sauce
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2015/05/19/updated-nasa-data-polar-ice-not-receding-after-all/#28f6aa222892

>>128623198

False equivalence, the Paris Accords was purely a symbolic gesture that cost $100 billion in taxpayer dollars that gave Obama a chance to fly around the world being patted on the back.

>>128623561
Yes it will, many smaller countries could use US withdrawal to influence their population. Climate change is only as strong as the belief people put in it. When one of the world strongest economy say fuck it. It will have effect worldwide, even if the US build a strong pro climate legislation. Which you won't do since your president is an absolute moron. He proved that during his Euro tour. (especially during the Nato meeting)

>>128623198

we're not supposed to have ice caps dipshit. if anything we're helping nature speed things up

>>128624352
Link to your sources?

Also read the fucking mathematical models before shit posting.

>>128624352
And global warming is not about Ice melting it's about not reaching a certain threshold where the temp is high enough to change the osmotic ratio of CO2 contained in the Ocean. If temp goes higher, the Co2 a large amount of Co2 currently dissolved in the ocean will get released increasing the effect in a way which will become basically uncontrollable for humans. Also No, Forbes is not a proper source when you talk about science.

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>>128623198
The major corporations that stand to gain from a carbon tax are funding this junk science. You arent serious, you cant be?

>>128623198
Ice caps are growing, not shrinking. I thought you guys believed in science and NASA?

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>>128624703
>Climate change is only as strong as the belief people put in it.

What did he mean by this?

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>>128623198
>coming to /pol/ to tell us how brainwashed you've let yourself become

Many such cases

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>>128623198
>muh global warming...
>which is not actually global...

>>128624703
Is it a belief or science? One demands continuous and rigorous testing and can often remain unsettled amongst professional scientists , the other demands faith and more akin to religious dogma.

>>128625499
No, fuck no, not everything is about the lobbies.
If you can understand the math, ask a friend of yours that you trust who can. THERE IS NO FUCKING DEBATE HERE.
Leave the science to us, the fucking scientist. I hate fucking politician taking only 1/100 th of the science to prove their point.

Read the fucking maths.

>>128623198
Why preserve the earth with the current demographic shift?

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>>128624703
>Climate change is only as strong as the belief people put in it.
Really makes you think, at least it fucking should.

>>128625881
It's fucking science, we run mathematical models based on Navier strokes.
I don't give a fuck about al gore.

>>128623198
humans have no impact on climate change

>>128623198

I don't want to set the world on fire.
>Oh wait, that's exactly what I want
Suck it, Achmed.

>>128623198

Stop being an ignoramus. Planet Earth will be fine. Human beings will be fine.

>>128625979
People like Professor Nicholas Stern, who produced the groundbreaking Stern Report in 2006, and Professor Joseph Stiglitz, who won the Nobel Prize for economics in 2001 both advocate for this. They are leading the charge. What the fuck are you screeching about?

>>128625979
So France is now importing millions of shitskins from a low carbon footprint environment to a high one. even if you believe (((global Warming))) is happening, you have to send these shitskins back to where they came from, as they are now consuming resources at a much more astonishing rate than they were before.

>>128624389
Guess what it cost money to literally EVERYONE ELSE TOO.
And how do we use that money? Yeah you guessed it, to develop our green energy sectors, creating you guessed it literally millions of jobs.
China actually plans to spend 310 B to develop the industry.

>>128625495
post a picture of why globalwarming is bout ice melting
gets rekt
>bu bu global warming isisn't about ice melting
fuck of you are just as cucked as your country.

>>128623198
Your failure at macros is marvelous

How dare those filthy heretics deny our climate religion! Don't they know the climate apocalypse is coming? How will they ever save themselves without buying indulgences from the climate priest???

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>>128626496
>And how do we use that money?
Why even throw off monarchy if you just invest the same blind trust in the state that replaces it?
I used to think you were cool, France.

>>128626138
Oh, based upon the work of Mukhtarbay Otelbaev?

>>128624703

Give it a rest. This board is filled with virgins that have their heads stuck up Trump' s asshole. No amount of scientific evidence or rational debate is going to chante their minds on this stuff.

>>128626138

And how many times have the models been corrected because their predictions were wrong? In case you didn't know, it happens every few years. "The Great Pause" is one such example. The models haven't predicted anything accurately on such a grand scale and we have no reason to believe that they will. Navier Stokes works on smaller scales for things like home irrigation and rivers; it's never worked on the scale of the entire Earth. There's a reason the model is non-linear and that's because we don't know everything that actually goes into it. Multiply this by the scale of the Earth and you get massive error. How do you expect us to believe these models can accurately depict what's going to happen in 10 years when the same models can't accurately tell us whether or not it'll rain next week?

>>128625687
>>128626059
It is only the case because people are not good in maths. For any proper scientist, there is nothing to argue over here.
The rest of the morons obviously have to be convinced. So, yeah, it's only as strong as the belief people put in it. And it's a fucking SHAME to be graded down to that level for us a specie.

>>128623198
were the cleanest powerhouse producer pon the planet. you all need to fuck off.

>>128623198
What is 'fluctuation' for 200

>>128623198
climate change has been going on for thousands and thousands of years.

human activity cotributes very little.

there's jack shit you can do about climate change. you cant reverse it or change it.


sorry mate.

>>128623198
fuck off you cucked fench faggot
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps/answer/Damian-Graves

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>>128626960
>For any proper scientist, there is nothing to argue over here.
>proper scientist
Nice true-Scotsman fallacy. Maybe you're just wrong in your interpretation of data and long-term trends, as influenced by greedy kikes who want to make a buck off your genuine concern? And perhaps the genuine need to limit our output of carbon (and methane, nobody ever talks about the fucking methane) has been hijacked by those people seeking to profit with no intent whatsoever on actually solving anything? And maybe, just maybe, you trusted people you assumed were right when you shouldn't have?

>>128623198
Lead by example then faggot. No more driving you car or even public. No more power or running water. No more buying goods. You can only grow tour own food.

>>128626810
>>128626914
IT'S HOW A FUCKING MODEL WORKS. ARRGGG.
go educate yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navier%E2%80%93Stokes_equations

Any finite element analysis model has to be adjusted. it's basically how it works, it does not mean it's bullshit, do you know what else we used that stuff for? To build the fucking Trump tower, any modern bridge, the Eiffel tower, to predict heat in all modern satellites, to estimate energy gain in all modern nuclear plants.
You don't argue with the fact that Nuclear power works do you?

>>128623198
I could do with some global warming right now - actually considering turning the heat on in my apt.

Masshole here, June 5th wtf.

ITT people who got their science education from Trump University

>>128623198
If anyone has done anything to doom all of us, it's fucking France by electing a globalist Merkelite.

>>128623198
the sun made it collapse

You might have domed yourself

lmao

>>128623198
melting ice =/= global warming

holy fuck global warming fags are retarted

>>128624703
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>>128627579
this stupid frech pig cannot rebut my argument here >>128626436

you failed frog

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>>128627579
>ARRGGG.
>>/soc/
>>/r9k/
>>/b/
The doors are thataway, sweetie.

>>128623198
>Do you realize you might just domed us all?

WE'RE DOMED! DOMED!!!

>>128627555
Being rational on our fossil energy consumption does not mean we have to go back to the fucking middle ages. Also I do grow my own vegetables, the one in the store fucking sucks.

>>128626960
Hey, question. If the theoretical undersanding of the solutions to these equations is incomplete how can you believe beyond a shadow of a doubt in your results? I understand that you want to provide meaning for your life and that the absolute belief in the proof of your work would help mitigate any personal doubts you may have but doesnt that seem a tad bit dishonest and rather unacademic, Mr Scientist?

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>>128627579
>Any finite element analysis model has to be adjusted.

So basically what you're telling us is that when your predictions fail miserably, which they most definitely did, you're still right anyway.

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>>128627948
Indeed, we are.

>>128627980
So then are you self preservationist, or a believer in adaptive evolution?

>>128623198
>let's castrate ourselves economically to put a whole bunch of basic alternative power tech in a 3rd world country
>USA: yeah, fuck that
>everyone else: BIGGOT REEEE YOUVE DOOMED US ALL
The planet is due for its usual heating cycle, get over it

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Hey look free documentaries to educate yourself instead of being indoctrinated by mainstream media propaganda:

http://riggedit.com/2017/05/01/global-warming-or-global-governance-full-length/

WAKE the FUCK UP

>>128628223
sauce on that graph please.

>>128627807
why do you think the ice is melting?

>>128623198
I put some ice on the table and it melted

I'm literally shaking

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>>128623198
Notice how "Climate Change" changed from "Global Warming"
It's not insane or stupid to constantly question, in fact, that's what scientists studying this have done as well (hence the name change).
We're finding out now that science isn't backing up the claims rallied for a while ago. If we are to be truly scientific, we must change those viewpoints with data, otherwise we're committing to acts of confirmation bias.
Also you can't point to an accurate number to suggest how much humans are responsible for. It certainly isn't all, and it certainly isn't none, its somewhere in-between. Also, if say 30% is caused by us, that leaves a 70% of which we have no control of. This is the fatal flaw of this theory; sure you can do everything in your power to truly reduce, but whats the end result and is it measurable? And can we base results on this measurement.
Nobody on the right thinks climate change itself is a hoax, but the forces behind it may be. The reasons for this mindset are obvious failures of prediction mixed with obvious political gains made by it. Notice how the EU didn't want to renegotiate? It's because they knew the jig is up. Notice how they were soft-handed on China vs the US, who's policies would essentially remain unchanged compared to the US in regards to tangible action and the massive amounts of money needed? This accord would of done nothing other than put us in a position to be taken advantage of, and even climate scientists said it did little to nothing.

>>128623198
>2017
>still believes the global warming meme

>>128628223
You realize that even if you take the actual lowest estimate on your graph, (which is below the actual measured temp on your graph), the result is still fucking disastrous?

>>128628526
I answered to the same graph here.

>>128628688

>>128628385
it'll be just like the ice age

the ice will melt and stuff but then over long time the temperature will return back to normal

the world isnt gonna keep heating up forever, idiot

>>128623198

>pull out of nonbinding accord
>a lot of our major businesses and cities are going along with the conditions of the accord anyway
>europoors boohooing because they wanted US government money, not just US business money

Getting government out of people's lives, and making shitty European globalists cry. Sounds good to me. Then there's this:

>>128627460

I suppose we should blame those damn medieval Europeans for driving Hummers and starting the medieval warming period, or maybe the Minoans for their so-named warming period.

>>128626496
>overuse of the word "literally"
you are aware that thousand of jobs being created is fucking nothing, right? There is no benefit to this shit, at all. You want to cut ((green house gasses)) get rid of combustion engines. Vehicles and cow farts produce more than all the world's power plants put together. This alternative energy bullshit is a global cash scam that just isn't taking

>>128623198
>mug settled science
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/31052016/why-antarctica-sea-ice-level-growing-while-arctic-glaciers-melts-climate-change-global-warming

When something happens that is contrary to a hypothesis I guess it is considered settled science.

>>128628830
"long time" in this case means at least 100,000 years

in the meantime we will just have to live with the multimeter sea level rise and the complete loss of functionality for all coastal cities I guess

OP you're a fuckwit. Do some research on what these ass clowns in the climate industry have done to help. They cripple first world countries that regulate their output and can be held accountable for their disasters and moved the industry to china and india where they get away with atrocities on a daily basis.

Take your ignorant BS elsewhere. You post did nothing to prove your point, but only insulted those who didn't agree.

Pansy ass Frenchy, take some middle eastern dick while you get taxed into oblivion, we're good on that shit.

>>128623198

You're worried about a temperature shift of 5 degrees in 75,000 years, but you'll bring in 10,000,000 muslims who will destroy your ancient nation in 1 generation...

>Costanza.jpeg

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>>128623198
The Paris accord is projected to have make a difference of 0.05 C..

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>>128624703

>Climate change is only as strong as the belief people put in it.

4chan /pol/ is so powerful that it can force its enemies to tell the truth

>>128627579
nigger, if you want to talk about diff eqs you should know what the fuck you're talking about. All the examples you listed involve FALSIFIABLE HYPOTHESES that can be tested, and the results fed back into the model to adjust the parameters

No one in any branch of computational science, fucking no one except these shitheel atmospheric science cumguzzlers outright believes the raw output of a finite element fluid dynamics simulation, let alone one as unbelievably complicated as the global climate. The mere fact that these pieces of absolute shit at NASA push the "science is settled" point so hard should tell you how dishonest they are, but if you wanted further evidence you'd look into climategate

climate science isn't even science because it produces ZERO FALSIFIABLE HYPOTHESES. How this many centuries after Francis Bacon even educated people can't comprehend the basic tenets of the scientific method baffles me

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>>128623198
Everyone knows its been getting warmer for a quite while now.

The neanderthals didn't have fucking cars or coal plants.

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>>128628526

You are mark.

>>128623198
Joke's on them, no country can retreat from the agreements for 3 years from when it ratified them anyways

>>128623198
>Do you realize you might just domed us all?
Well, that would protect us from climate shifts.

>>128623198
Dearest roach,
I hope it hurts.
t. burger
P.S. saged

>>128623198
If you believe in evolution you should embrace climate change as it would force it along by only the strongest survive theory which we as a species would benefit from. As it is now we coddle the weak and genetic mistakes along and allow them to continue breeding while at the same time the strong are dying in wars which it seems to be negatively impacting our gene pool.

>>128628321
Yeah thank you, but I tend not to give a shit about politics, what I give a shit about is physics, and I'm good enough to read the actual science, not some random biased partisan shit tier articles who wants me to believe global warming is real or that global warming is a hoax because conspiracies lalala.

>>128629373
Paris Accord wasn't "ratified" in any legal sense in the American Congress. We can pull out if we like, and what's the rest of the world going to do about it? Call us fat and lazy?

>>128623198
Kys climate change nigger. I'll give you 2 seconds to explain geonengineering and space weather.

>>128629444
Can you make a full sentence? I don't speak troll.

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>>128623198
Whatever retard.

>>128629562
how come you still have not answered
>>128626436

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>>128623198
Fuck your wealth redistribution

>>128624703
So Trump is the worst thing that's ever happened and he's making the US the laughingstock of the entire planet... yet him withdrawing from the paris agreement will influence tons of other nations to follow in his footsteps.

Make up your fucking mind.

>>128629562
Show the definitive correlation between CO2 and heat. There isn't one. During the time of the Dinosaurs there was many times more CO2 in the air than there is now, yet it was only a few degrees warmer.

>>128628385
My guess would either be Russian hackers or Islamic extremism.

>>128629653
AND SO WHAT, IT WAS A BILATERAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN COUNTRIES. WHAT DOES YOUR FUCKING SENATE HAS TO DO WITH THAT SHIT?
Guess What it was the same thing for ALL the other countries, and you're the only one crying over this.
Fucking sophism everywhere.

>>128623198
FUCK OFF FROG

WHY DONT YOU SEND YOUR MONEY THE UNITED STATES INSTEAD? YEA I THOUGHT SO

NOT GONNA LET YOU PEER PRESSURE US INTO FORKING OVER MONEY

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>>128629653
if the US are considered as ratifiers it means the Presidential act was in the list of instruments valid for the ratification
pic related

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>>128629951
there isn't a direct linear correlation between temperature and CO2 because you're completely forgetting the other important long-term driver: the sun

when you combine both drivers, the correlation to temperature becomes apparent

Provide me proof of anthropogenic emissions and their effects on the climate that are not in accordance with natural deviations of the normal warming and cooling cycles.

>>128629721
Whatvo you say to scientists such as Ed Hawkins, Chip Kappenberger, Patrick Michaels, and John Fyfe? Are they considered heretics by you and your peers? Or are they simply a bit more intellecually honest than you guys?

>>128628688
>A 0.8c GLOBAL rise in temperature averages would be disastrous.

Then how the fuck did humanity survive the Holocene climatic optimum? It was way hotter then, and the outcome was a shift in the kinds of crops you could produce in different parts of the world.

Quick everyone, we better ignore the contributions of Milankovitch cycles and cloude cover percentage. Clearly only human life is capable of driving global climate.

Except OP we would be the one doing all the work.

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>>128623198
GET DOMED FAGGOT

>>128623198
Isn't melted ice a good thing?

also wasn't it called global warming?

Do you want world government taxation?

Do you seriously think the climate doesn't change when were coming OUT OF and ice age?

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>>128629721>>128630022
global warming/climate change is an industry unto itself and they want worldwide "carbon taxes" on top of that. it is an insidious thing far beyond that even.

you won't understand wtf i'm talking about unless you look into these things for yourself. so, you can do that (takes effort)... or blindly continue to go along with their agenda. whatever.

did you know having ice cap is an anomaly? did you know that the earth has been ice cap free for ~90% of its existence? did you know by definition ice caps only exist during ice ages? did you know we are at the tail end of a CURRENT ice age now? did you know the caps extended as far down as missouri/kentucky just 20,000 years ago and have been receding ever since that peak? did you know the caps are going bye-bye even if every person on the planet disappeared 20,000 years ago?

THE OCEAN'S RELEASE *ALL ON ITS OWN* IS FAR LARGER AND MORE IMPORTANTLY *OUT ACCELERATING* MANS CONTRIBUTION

THE OCEAN IS RELEASING MORE DUE TO WARMER TEMPS (WARMER WATER = IT'S A FAR LESS EFFECTIVE C02 SINK)

IF HUMANS NEVER AROSE CO2 WOULD BE INCREASING AT ALMOST THE EXACT SAME RATE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW

THIS HAPPENS AT THE END OF EVERY ICE AGE

STOP BEING SO FUCKING GULLIBLE AND LAZY

LOOK INTO THINGS FOR YOURSELF AND STOP TAKING WHAT THE MSM, EPA.GOV AND NASA.GOV ETC. TELL YOU AT FACE VALUE, YOU LAZY SHITS. IT IS ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL.

ICE AGES AND PERMANENT ICE *ARE AN ANOMALY*

BY DEFINITION AN "ICE AGE" IS WHEN THE EARTH HAS PERMANENT ICE SHELVES

WE HAD ICE A MILE THINK IN CINCINNATI JUST 20,000 YEARS AGO

THE PLANET IS WARMING AND THE CAPS ARE METLING

THAT MEANS = MORE CO2, SEA RISE AND WEATHER PATTERN CHANGES

WE CAN'T STOP OR ALTER IT, WE WILL ADAPT

STOP BEING COWED INTO TAX SCHEMES AND GLOBALIST POWER PLAYS YOU ABSOLUTE BRAINLETS

>>128629761
Of course the human impact is small compared to the other sources of CO2, THAT IS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT. It's big enough to make us pass the threshold where the osmotic equilibrium get screwed, Co2 gets poured out of the ocean and then yeah, we can emit as much as we want that one point, won't change much, because the effect will be strong enough to maintain itself by it's own, and that's the point where we are screwed.
Your shit is just another example on how the data has been taken out of context by fucking politicians to make up their fucking point.

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>>128623198
You've certainly done you're research, since you have,can you tell me what the thermal retention of atmospheric CO2 is compared to atmospheric H2O? How about atmospheric dust? What about solar heat cycles? What about the energy created and released as heat from simple tidal forces? Since you've done you're research you will know all those answers and I won't bother you with showing you how wrong you are.

>>128623198
FUCK OFF FROG

YOU WOULD NEVER SUPPORT A USA CLIMATE ACCORD THAT REQUIRED YOU
TO SEND YOUR MONEY TO THE UNITED STATES

YOU WOULD NEVER SUPPORT AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BUILD THE UNITED STATES ECONOMY

YOU WOULD NEVER SUPPORT AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD INVEST IN UNITED STATE TECHNOLOGY TO REDUCE
EMISSSION

YOUR FUCKING PCA IS A FUCKING LIE

TAKE YOUR PEER PRESSURE BULLSHIT, "EVERYONE ELSE SUPPORTS IT, SO YOU SHOULD TO" AND SHOVE IT STRAIGHT UP YOUR STRECHTED OUT ASSHOLE

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>>128630370
>Isn't melted ice a good thing?

What happens when we run out of melting ice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SYpUSjSgFg

>>128630373
>>128630373
Yeah read that.

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>>128623796
Weather is not climate.
Climate determines the weather patterns in across the globe.
As climate changes, with the average global temp growing, weather is gonna get... weird. Some places might even get colder, like England.

>>128625499
Just because carbon taxes are a scam solution, that doesn't mean the problem isn't real.

That's what worries me. We have con men like Al Gore using a real issue to get rich and set up a new big oil with green energy.

Fuck. I think carbon taxes are a way for current big oil to buy new loopholes by giving money to idiots like Gore's buddies.

>>128623198
>implying i don't want the third world to die, flooded by rising oceans. droughts in africa is an ideal situation.

>>128630022
Yeah, ya see right there, Frog. That's how our government works. No matter what is agreed upon nothing is legally monitarily binding unless our congress ratifies it. Keeps Presidents from weilding too much power. You understa... Oh, you don't? Thats right, you live in a nation in which your current leaders are importing people who plan to replace yourself and your culture in every meaningful way. You're witnessing the birth of an insurgency and you're crying over a toothless international accord that you had hoped would increase your relevance upon the world stage. Guess that dog just wont hunt, will it Champ?

>>128630373
And please stop being gullible and lazy.
Educate yourself.
It starts here.

http://www2.oberlin.edu/math/faculty/walsh/WalshMcGehee.pdf

>>128624703
>Climate change is only as strong as the belief people put in it
PREACH IT!!
I FEEL IT!!!
HALLELUJAH!!!

>>128624032
this is how objective reality really is, imo. we could do nothing and the earth will be fine. liberals are the fear mongering false profits of the old t imes

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>>128630137
Hey moron, that's a Delta-T, not a T..

>>128623561
France seems incredibly butthurt by the withdrawal.

>>128631014
Again, I don't give a fuck about politics.
I do give a fuck about physics though.
And physics tells you, you're fucking wrong.
Again, Go educate yourself.
>>128631073

>>128631210
yeah
so?
the "T" in deltaT still stands for temperature you know

>>128631322
FUCK OFF FROG YOUR CLIMATE ACCORD IS A FUCKING LIE

>>128625495
It's happens all the time, there is a 600 ft water hole in Africa that spits out so much co2 its killed entire villages since the 1700's. That's what they believe is sinking ships in the Bermuda Triangle. You are in a cultist mindset, probably from to much government and their media. Why else would you let the sow of Germany take you over in your last election, 2nd time that magnot line has paid off eh?

>>128631374
>Doesn't realise what the delta stands for..
Fuck off dumbass..

>>128631322
FUCK RIGHT OFF FROG
YOUR CLIMATE ACCORD IS A FUCKING LIE

>>128631322
PCA is political.

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>>128623198
>The sky is falling
>The end is nigh
>You'll destroy us alllllll
blah blah blah
Your doomsday cult bullshit is getting really old.
I've heard it my whole life and never seen a single shred of evidence.
Every year a new prediction as last years prediction was "miscalculated". EVERY FUCKING YEAR

>>128623198
>implying that we don't want to kill all the niggers and the other degenerates

Trump is doing a great thing.

And you would see it the same... unless
>OP is a nigger

>>128631374
If I take boiling water and freeze that, that's a Delta-T of 100 degrees (NOT -100)!!

>>128630864
>Just because carbon taxes are a scam solution, that doesn't mean the problem isn't real.

But it certainly increases the likelihood pretty dramatically, yes?

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>>128624703
>only as strong as the belief people put in it.
This is some Goebbels level shit

>>128631322
No, you seem pretty butthurt about the politics and how you believe they've coopted youre relig.. Science. >>128630022 not concerned with politics or just how it played out?

>>128624703
>when you don't believe in your own shit enough to support it yourself
France everyone

>>128623796
Nobody is saying that climate or weather is supposed to be constant, just that the rate of change is dangerous.

>>128631210
Yeah the IPPC model changed quiet a lot since that 5 year old publication...
And what do you mean, it's a Delta T what does that even mean lol, it's a difference, no shit Einstein. It's a second order model, you moron... Meaning they use a quadratic function as a comportment law.

>>128631322
All of your posts and you still are ignoring the main problem, you people thinking that shaming China will change anything is pathetic. They would also be able to keep producing coal for at least another decade according the the agreement. It's literally just a wealth transfer agreement, a global ponzi scheme.

>>128631322
>And physics tells you, you're fucking wrong.
You wouldn't know physics if it fucked you up the ass and came all over your pillow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gDErDwXqhc

>>128625979
>leave the science to us
>says the country that hasn't been to the moon

HEY EVERYBODY POLLUTION WILL KILL US ALL

oh ok how about we all sign this NON BINDING agreement to do something about it

Sure, but who will pay

THE UNITED STATES!

count me in (x 194 countries)

FUCK OFF FROG

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>>128631073
>Educate yourself.
educate YOURSELF about greedy scam artists in our society

pic related

>>128631825
I answered to that somewhere already look it up. Also Goebbels did nothing wrong.

>>128631956
Meaning it shows you nothing regarding to the ACTUAL temperature, only the NATURE of the shift (increasing in speed, decreasing in speed, etc.) The shift could be positive (warming) or negative (cooling) and still produce the same delta-T graph

>Implying that the Paris Agreement would actually have an effect on the climate

>>128632102
We all pay for it you moron, even China and India.

>>128631782
if that's the case, why does the graph go below zero into negative deltaT?

>>128632102
Hell, even Pakistan.

>>128632274
YOURE A FUCKING LIAR

or youre just a fucking moron

pick one

>>128623198
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOME

>>128632274
They're considered developing countries so no, they don't have to pay.

>>128624703
It's the Sun you climatetard.
Remember the Sun? it's that thing that makes summers fucking WARMER.
See tard, the Sun has cycles where it's less active which historically caused the earth to cool. Conversely, it caused the earth to warn during times of higher solar activity.

Maybe YOU should educate YOURSELF

>>128624703
*Clicks heels*
Anthropogenic Global warming is real
*Clicks heels*
Anthropogenic Global warming is real
*Clicks heels*

...

>>128624703
>Climate change is only as strong as the belief people put in it.
>When one of the world strongest economy say fuck it. It will have effect worldwide

exactly, "belief". It's a fucking religion.
also implying this would be a bad thing
>Trump: "the earth is not flat"
>oh noes, the earth is totally flat
>almost everyone agrees on that
>because they get tons of money to further analyze the flat earth
>panic, because gorillions of monies are at stake

>>128632106
Sure, what should I trust, my phd in fluid mechanics and 2000 years of sciences or some guy who drew a cartoon on the internet.

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In the meantime, Trump prevails, the mad bull elephant of the Republican herd, majestically swinging his trunk against everything breakable in the political china shop while trumpeting “Covfefe! Covfefe!” The Paris Accords were just another feel-good PR stunt enabling politicians to pretend that they could control forces that are already way out-of-hand, an international vanity project of ass-covering. The coming economic collapse will depress global industrial activity whether anybody likes it or not, and despite anyone’s pretense of good intentions — and then we will have a range of much more practical problems of everyday life to contend with.

Of course, Trump cannot possibly see it that way, given his wish to bring back the America of humming factories and happy workers seeing the USA in their Chevrolets and all that. That fantasy will eventually fade as the inability to get anything done in Washington becomes manifest and obvious. When the “basket of deplorables” sees their hopes dribble away, they will start in with serious mischief of their own, without Trump having to prompt them. Then it will be a quixotic battle between them and the BLM / SJW proxies that the higher-up chickenshits of DemProgdom have so carefully groomed as their vanguard. There will be blood.

Yes, Mr. P, America has lost its mind. The whole thing has turned into some kind of nonstop Kardashian tranny monster truck shit-show of manufactured melodrama and lost causes, inducing a kind of global nausea that may ultimately prove more fatal than the rising surface temperature and melting icecaps. Russia, to its credit, and whatever else you think about it, has some regard for its own survival. Our country prefers the excitement of self-destruction.

>>128632528
if it's the sun, why aren't we seeing warming throughout the entire vertical extension of the atmosphere?

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everyone should watch this 10 minute video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl9-tY1oZNw

>>128632592
>2000 years of sciences
You mean those scientists who thought the earth was flat?

>>128624703
Don't be an idiot. Pollution is very real and visible in places like China and India. It shaves off 10 years on average for people living in Beijing.

ITT: Idiots confusing pollution and global warming

>>128624703
>Climate change is only as strong as the belief people put in it
So you admit it's not based on science but on belief

>>128623198
If you want non-cucks to stay you should never include leftist propaganda.
>Parties should, when taking action to address climate change, respect, promote and consider their respective obligations on human rights, the right to health, the rights of indigenous peoples, local communities, migrants, children, persons with disabilities and people in vulnerable situations and the right to development, as well as gender equality, empowerment of women and intergenerational equity.
Aside from this garbage, its irrelevant piece of shit that only benefit subhumans and forces whites pay for it. It isn't ratified here, which makes it toilet paper tier and i hope that it never will be.

>>128632592
Trust whatever you want captain hubris but be careful believing youre own press release

>>128632592
first of all, you are a fucking Frenchie, who just voted for a bankter
Which means your credibility is 0.

Who would I trust?
A comic, that is actually the truth?
Or a video from Yale, that actually shows that the comic is a truth-fact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY-pO_zTVvU

They tried to debunk the comic and are acting exactly like portrayed in the comic kek

>>128632592
just admit it already, if climate change is anthropogenic we're on a path to destruction that can't be stopped (only slowed) unless we sterilize every 3rd worlder

>>128631956
Remember al gore and the polar bears, they are supposed to extinct now. So happens the pop is 3 times higher than 10 years ago, almost ready for a cull. If they change the model every bi decade because of wrong predictions, it's like making a new prediction every 5 years and being wrong all the time. You would never invest your pay check in a company with a record like that, so why your life? Btw the atmospheric heat retention of water vapour vs co2 is that most everything holds heat more than co2. Clouds hold more heat during night hours than co2? Shall we tax clouds?

wow a PhD we should be impressed

then you cant argue that numbers can be tortured to say anything

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>>128630022
Legally, the president can revoke his "ratification." If it had been an instrument that went through the Senate, he wouldn't be able to, but he can pull out at his pleasure. What's the international community going to do? Sanction us?

>>128633013
now that's a plan I can get behind.
Sounds plausible, so let's do so.

>>128632645
How does the sun heat the Earth? You'll find your answer when you answer that question.

>>128633185
I think the real issue here is that he has a PhD and probably works in retail, because of immigration, so he's just venting.

>>128632734
Can you quote me any serious scientist who defended the flat earth theory?

I can quote one who thought it was round. Pythagoras.

And the debate was held 600 years before Christ, so more than 2000 years ago, you're welcome.

>>128632835
Global warming is a scam, brainlet.

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>>128623198
Climate change is real and a natural phenomena since the planet was born.
Man made climate change on the other hand is pseudo science (even Astrology has more creditability then that shit) and a gigantic scam.

>>128632304
That's called deceleration xD

OP is a lysenkoist faggot

>>128633218
I dunno, they very well could under the agreements, since the text just basically says "all the countries meet and decide together what to do with an asshole that isn't observing these agreements"

>>128633408
Pythagoras was mocked for his "religious belief" that the earth was round for his entire life. It wasn't until Aristotle that people started accepting a round earth.

>>128632723
Where is the science behind the 97%? I would like to see the data.

>>128624352
Article written by a non-scientist who, unsurprisingly, got tons wrong:
>http://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/forbes-james-taylor-updated-nasa-data-polar-ice-not-receding-after-all/

Some quotes:
>As is clearly explained in a recent article from Carbon Brief, sea ice behavior in the Arctic and Antarctic is responding to climate change in different ways, and we know why.

>Because the Antarctic is so much colder than the Arctic, it takes a much larger temperature increase to affect the sea ice, but eventually global warming will cause this sea ice to decline, as well.

>The article is misleading and completely incorrect. It appears that the article is lumping together sea ice and ice sheets, although perhaps the author does not know the difference between sea ice and the ice on Greenland and Antarctica.

> polar ice area is not nearly as telling as polar ice mass or volume, so the metric that the author uses is extremely misleading.

Try not to get information from an industry shill, please.

>>128623198
>16 year "pause" on global temperature change
>Im sorry, after 16 years... thats not a pause, thats a failed theory.

>>128634061
Perhaps, but when the asshole that isn't observing these agreements is the sole remaining superpower and ~25% of the global economy, it might be tricky.

>>128623198
i sure hoped that i've 'domed' you
your maghrebi ass needs to get domed, maghrebi
go back to algeria

>>128634101
True, your point being?

>>128625827
So you imagine that for global warming to be underway every corner of the globe needs to be getting hotter? Two words: general trends.

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>>128633597
I do believe that there's a lot of evidence that shows man is having an effect on the Climate.
I just think it's an increase in the frequency of temperature-shifts, not a warming of the planet.

Why America is WRONG about this:
> While absolutly not enough by itself, COP21 accords are a start. It's mostly an organized bragging contest inciting goverments to promise efforts towards the environnement. And it works, India and China doubled their environemental budget since the accords.

> Even if it's not enough, the alternative by trump is apparently doing nothing or making thing worse with "clean" coal or "hydrolic" (actually toxic chemicals) fraking.

> Clinging to fossil energies because it keeps job in your country is pretty much horseshoe makers claiming cars are ruining the economy. Green energy creates a shiton of qualified jobs.

> Trump basically told everyone a big fuck you and lost immediatly a part of the US international influence. Foreign countries have a now a perfect excuse to discard american products and make deals with other countries. No usual economical organisms will be able to blame a country who will ignore the US (like when Venezuela got raped because they tried to sell oil in euros). International influence isn't a joke, it's your bread and butter.

> Do you really believe coal mines are the future ? Really ? How good is the coal lobbyism ?

> Whining about China not promising any CO2 reductions is logical because many parts of their country still need industrialization (while western countries don't) but it hides the fact they have the largest environemental budget in the world and are pionnering on green energies, do you really want to be left behind on green technologies ? If you want to find the real assholes in the COP21 accords, it would be Saudi Arabia who put pressure so fossil energies wouldn't be mention at all. But Trump love the saudis.

>>128634787
Hindsight is always 20/20

>>128634597
Eh, it all just boils down to one thing, if those sanctions would hurt more the economy of that one country or those of all the other ones

>>128623198
AGW is a liberal lie designed to push socialism, nothing more.
But then again liberals do not seem to care if they are lied to.

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Human affect on the climate is simply impossible to correlate with the time scales we've been tracking.
Paleoclimatalogy research confirms the Earth has a cyclical temperature, CO2, particle, glacial periods etc. etc. These cycles ebb and flow for millions of years and Humans weren't around to effect this. (OR WERE THEY?!)

Temperature variation through human history in my opinion may be closer related to Sunspot activity. The Wolf Minimum for example correlates with of the Medieval Warm period and the start of the little ice age which persisted somewhere around 1850.

Now I can't debate the merits of environmentalism to the point of negligibly but when our global temperature is comparative to the pre-industralized medieval world: I do believe we are, and always have been, largely at the mercy of nature.

>>128634787
He was just another moron in an ocean of morons.

>>128623198
Paris Agreement literally will do nothing to "fix" global warming.

US had no obligation to comply with the treaty that stupid fucking Obama signed, because Congress didn't even approve it and therefore it was never ratified.

That's why Trump withdrew moron. It's in our Constitution.

>>128623198
Computer models aren't not scientific data. Sage

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What's wrong Macaron? Afraid you'll lose your delicious grant money and your high horse?

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>>128634852
>increase in the frequency of temperature-shifts
this was happening WAY BEFORE modern man arose, 1.5+ MILLION years ago

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>>128634920
Could not agree more.

>>128633408
You aren't the modern Pythagoras you vain twit. People like Ed Hawkins, Chip Kappenberger, Patrick Michaels, and John Fyfe are. You aren't standing against those in your profession who believe that you're wrong. You're right in line with current thinking, you're the rock stars, the in crowd. You couldn't be a more vain individual if you tried.

>w-why dont you STUPID amerigoys support muh agenda 21 goyim?
kill yourself before i get my hands on you to torture you to death
could you imagine what it would be like if your eyelids were removed? you'd never be able to close your eyes
then on a projector in front of you in a dark room, the entirety of my little pony plays on repeat and every so often a stranger (different everytime) comes and pisses in your eyes

and that is just one of many such cases i have in store for people like you

>>128635181
Not just computers sweetie, 97% of every scientist on earth. Thats 97% of the smartest people ever, and their computers.

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>>128623198
OP, you are, without a doubt, the worst person in the world, and quite frankly, ....quite frankly it's a shame that you read this in my voice.

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>>128635475
Unplug your bananas bucko.

>>128635217
Nope, just trying to create a federal Europe, and become the first economical force worldwide, as Europe should be.

>>128634852
>I do believe
Actual scientists do not beLIEve in something.

>>128634787
His point is that people are wrong all the time.
And that's not even just the problem here. Back then they beLIEved in the earth being flat.
The problem here is that there is gorillions of funding involved. And when there is gorillions of money involved, people do not want to lose out on that funding.

Let's say you have a job. I know, fantasy-land.
Anyway your well paid job is to check something, that does not exist.
And the first few years you beLIEve in that.
Then you figure out that it does not exist.
Would you tell the world, that what you are checking does not exist?
No, because doing so would be stupid. You would lose your well paid job.

>>128634915
Thought that you didn't care about politics. Or is that only when it doesnt suit your needs or runs contrary to your end goals? You self righteous, vain little man

>>128635244
What I mean is faster shifts, like in the Pleistocene era. (Where large mammals produced a lot of methane & CO2)

>>128635675
And already is by the way. We just need to unite as one gov.

>>128623198
I don't think you know what the Paris agreement was...faggot.

>>128635763
>Thought that you didn't care about politics.
What ? Why would you think that ?

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>>128635675
>>128635798
Good luck bozo.

Why does no liberal dumbshit know what the fuck anthroprogenic means?

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>>128623198
>mfw climate change is white privilege for governments

>>128635475
The 97% is a bs misleading number ;)

>>128635675
it will never happen the EU will crumble
it will never be a cohesive union
it will descend into civil war soon enough

and remember, hindsight is 20/20

>>128623198

Will you shut the fuck up? Muslims are going to overrun your country and claim it and there won't even be a France LONG before whatever apocalypse you imagine is going to happen.
Fuck off dweebs.

>>128635675
>just trying to create a federal Europe
Frogs always ready to suck german cock.
Well...water is wet.

>>128635798
globalist shill

kys

>>128635798
You do care about politics, you smug little shit. Your country is dealing with a burgeoning insurgency and your relig.. Science wont be able to stop it.

>>128635779
Weird its almost like humans are a part of the natural cycle of the planet or something.

>>128623198
Wow, just the way this is written shows how retarded you are

>>128635704
>Actual scientists do not believe in something
Yes they do. They use the scientific to confirm or deny their beliefs (or "educated guesses) and adjust those beliefs based on the result of their experimentation.

>>128635798
Macaroni, we won't let you.
The actual power force is going to be Russia + Germany. You are not needed anywhere.

>>128634343
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/#7eff77fb3f9f

>>128630864
Your politeness is head-and-shoulders above everyone else on your side.

>>128628592

The meme's got legs, I'll give it that. They been predicting the end of the world in 5 years since the 70's. Think they're just trolling at this point.

>>128636134
Except humans have actually shaped the planet..
Built houses, mined resources, shaped landscapes..

>>128636008
You know what they say: when in Rome, play the violin.

>>128623198
Fucking get btfo by the man who just saved us all from the biggest lie since the holocaust. Fuck you for shilling for this fraudulent bullshit

>>128623198
lol, shouldn't you be under a truck of peace?

I think you're being racist for having a country.

>>128635779
>What I mean is faster shifts
again, that's what you see starting ~1.5 million years ago
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>>128623198
>Is your country that bad in math?

China and India do more damage, by far, than the US.

You just attack the US because you're a self-hating white man who's too cowardly to attack any of the greater threats.

Best thing anyone can do to fight climate change would be to, ahem, remove themselves from the equation and limit their carbon footprint down to zero.

>>128623198
OP is just a faggot '''''''''trolling''''''''''', but consider this for a sec
Some of you might even believe that global warming/climate change is real. Consider this.
Climate change is going to destroy the world soon, this is what they are telling us. Climate change is fucking SERIOUS, it's not just some increase in degrees, it's a global catastrophic event is threatening our survival as a species, according to ''scientists'' anyway.
Ok. Now answer me this. Why aren't we more freaked out about it? You'd think that if we are about be exterminated we would have more drastic of a response than to call America to pay 100 billion for some retarded plan that is supposed to lower Earth's temperature by 1 degree in 100 years.

If things were so bad, you would think that we would be flipping out, and what we would be proposing is killing half of the world's population. We could easily just go into Africa and Asia, and kill them all. Just kill them all. Save the planet. All our global warming problems would be completely fixed. Yet we aren't going that road. It's almost as if ''global warming'' isn't as serious or even real threat as it is made to sound like.

>>128636154
>beliefs
>adjust those beliefs
That's not how science works, you fucking mong.

>>128623198
>Do you realize you might just domed us all?
Don't act like you don't deserve it.

Macron is a pussy. The French are pussies. Fucking faggots

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>>128635798
>31 posts by this ID
give it a rest

>>128636314
All of those things have been done long before humans arrived, we just do it better than ever before. We are still apart of this planet, its not our job to save it, it doesn't need saving.

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>>128634848
>Two words: general trends.
Two words: EAT MUHDICK

oh, look, another thread where the cucks tell us how to live. fuck off faggots and get off our balls

>>128626138

And those models are based on past trends, and what variables we know about to account for.

Just look at the projections from 20 years ago and how laughably far they vary from actual CO2 levels and temps today.

>>128636398
Lol you do realise those India and Chinese plants are the ones that would have been in America if the american people still had the grit to actually work factory jobs.

>>128636227
The guy who figured out the shifting tectonic plates started at 0.000000001% (just him) and his numbers grew until it hit 99.999999999%. He didn't make it his mission in life to browbeat everyfuckingbody when it supposedly hit 97%. Why would he?

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>>128636154
Those words you're using. I don't think they mean what you think they mean.

>>128636388
Yet it slowed down in the Holocene..
You also see it happening at the end of the Cretaceous period, and slowing at the start of the paleocene (just after the dino's died).
I think that human influence will speed up this frequency more & more (unless we die out).

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>>128623198
>muh melting ice is proof that high carbon counts cause the planet to become unlivable

Let's say it again, children; CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION

Lol
HIDE ALL 'MUH ICE' THREADS
IGNORE ALL 'MUH ICE' THREADS
DO NOT REPLY TO 'MUH ICE' THREADS

>>128623198
I see ice falling due to sun's heat - try harder faggot and WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR PROOFS THAT HUMANS DID IT!

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>>128623198
Climate change is real, but the change to green energy will come from the private sector not the state

Some americans here are dumb as fuck, they use the same anti-science arguments that the left uses for genre and race. They want to believe their feelings and in their political ideology instead of scientific facts.

>>128636440
What is a hypothesis.

>OP provides no sources and explains nothing about what he talks about. He just calls everyone a moron and is angry because he won't have any shekels from the climate deal.

Why are you even replying to him?

>>128637040
You niggers are going to be eating crow when the poland ice caps finally melt completely by 2014.

>>128636766
Businesses of all types are stifled by government regulations. Not the case in China.

>>128637293
>what is a hypothesis
It sure as fuck isn't the same thing as a belief you fucking tard, get your head out of your ass.

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>>128636564
Before there were people there were things drilling tunnels through mountains & making huge ass dams for power? Flattening large sections of terrain to create cities? Re-routing rivers?

>>128626960
Please, show us the math. And no, a graph that indicates few tenths of a degree raise in few decades doesn't proove anything.

>>128623198
I have a feeling the technology we Europeans have to develop to counter the global climate will put us in the forefront of technology in a few decades.

I predict the first earth intergalactic faster than light cruiser will be built by the Europeans and the first colony outside of the solar system will be a European colony.

>>128637325
Because you're fucking faggots. Answer this
>>128636399
OP is just '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''trolling''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

>>128637002
Belief:
#2.. trust, faith or confidence in something...
Try again retard...

>>128637542
Yeah its called the weather you shit eating ass clown. Everything that has been done to this planet has been done a thousand times over before we even got here. Quit thinking we are more than we are you insignificant fuck, go find god or something if you are this delusional.

>>128635475
Yeah keep believing that meme. Sucker

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>>128635675

>Nope, just trying to create a federal Europe
Disgusting, is everyone in your Federal Europe going to speak Arabic?

>>128637494
A hypothesis stems from a belief (more generally; an assumption) in a certain thing.

>>128623561
You ignorant mongs sliding slowly into kleptomanic idiocracy are a disgrace to the western world.
You are a failed state in 2-party-meltdown, fun to watch if it wasn't so sad.

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>>128623198
Explain this frogs!


pro tip: you can't

>>128637718
>Weather
>Human intervention
Yeah those are not comparable in the slightest.
For instance, a river will always choose the path of least resistance, yet humans can re-route a river using dams & ditches.

>>128630373
this guy gets it.

>>128623198
It's a hoax
to make the filthy rich even richer at the expense of the rest of us
So much money in it for them that they won't let it drop no matter how much evidence proves it's a hoax
Even more money in it than all those hoax starving Africans hoaxes
and the charity concert hoaxes

>>128637841
A hypothesis is not a belief.
>more generally; an assumption
Not even that either.
It's more of a guess that needs to be tested.

Stop being retarded.

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WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE

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>>128623198

>>128638003
Deserts get extremely cold at night... rains... rain turns into snow... ????

>>128638003
>this changes everything
You do know that Europe will get colder because the gulf stream is cooled down by melting ice if climate change is real?

>>128632723
Good watch senpai

>>128623198
ça sert à rien malheureusement d'expliquer a des abrutis ici qui croient pas au réchauffement, la seul question que je me pose c'est est-ce qu'on va en souffrir, ou mourons-nous avant et nos enfants en souffriront ?

>>128623198
why the fuck do you care? dumbass hippy liberals don't plan on having children anyways. nor do you care about preserving cultural identity. what do you care what happens 5000 years from now?

>>128638175
>Hypothesis is not a belief
I never said it was. I said a hypothesis STEMS from a belief.
Place yourself in the mind of Pythagoras:
If I don't believe the earth is round (instead of flat) why would I defy what I'm told and hypothesise about the round earth?

>>128637661

I'm not OP and disagree with him. I'm glad Trump told them to fuck off.

>>128637691
>trust, faith or confidence in something
>science
I thought you civilized western yuros had good education systems.
Maybe I was wrong.

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>>128623198
>Is your country that bad in math?
Actually no. The reason America doesn't like the paris agreement is because we will pay 90% of it. GFY
The United States contributed $1 billion to the global Green Climate Fund, but the world's top polluters contributed nothing, David Asman reported.

Asman said on "Forbes on Fox" that China, Russia and India contributed no money to the Green Climate Fund, yet that international community pressured the U.S. to join the Paris Climate Accord.

Steve Forbes said that the billion-dollar payment is another reason why President Trump was smart to withdraw the U.S. from the Paris agreement.

>>128637962
What's your excuse, Germany?

>>128638623
If you're not confident in what you're looking for, why even look? Why did people build the Large Hadron Collider if it wasn't for the fact that they were confident it would tell them about the higgs-boson?

>>128638565
It doesn't matter what it stems from, you stupid faggot.
Anyone can make the hypothesis that Earth is flat. That hypothesis gets proven wrong immediately so no one brings it up anymore.

It doesn't matter why Pythagoras didn't have autistic screeching fits about a flat Earth, it doesn't change the fact that a hypothesis is a guess, not a belief, not an assumption and it doesn't ''stem from belief''.
A hypothesis is a guess, period.

>>128638368

>Explain

He didn't explain anything, he just calls people names and hide behind "muh scientists". Oh forgive me he explained he wants a one government and be the shekel king of the world.

>>128638368
The only suffering that you should worry about is the suffering of your native french population being slaughtered and decimated in the name of religion.

Climate change is the least of your, your childrens, grandchildrens, great grandchildrens and THEIR great great grandchildrens problem. You will be long gone before there is a slight .05°c change warming of global temperature.

You people are fucking hysterical in believing the oceans are going to rise 30 feet in your lifetime.

>>128639125
>I'm so confident the earth is flat that I'm gonna make a hypothesis about the earth being round.
kys faggot

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>>128639125
Try a REAL definition of "Belief"

>>128639597
Not an argument

>>128629721
>>128630022
>>128630644


What are you trying to prove here buddy?
You're trying to save the polar bears and mother nature? Tough luck, i haven't met an African or Chinese who didn't want Airmaxes and drive a Lamborghini.

The trouble is that there is no conclusive evidence burning massive amounts of fossil resources causes global warming. There's other variables involved, like the intensity of the sun, distribution of solar irradiation. Thank fuck it's not getting any colder, because you can't farm on fucking glaciers.

You're saying "it's science" but it's just an ill-fitting model to get us to open our wallets and thrash our cars and buy a fucking Prius. And the model's are really ill-fitting. As in; they're fucking worthless. The thing with the osmotic balance is just some hypothesis that's impossible to prove.

You're the fucking idiot dude, you know nothing about how money starved environmental scientists were before they discovered they could just scream about disaster and get money. It's also why the predictions get more dire every year; once we get accustomed to the threat, the grants stop flowing.

Maybe in 4d chess i can understand we need to conserve fossil resources as a strategic resource, but fuck that shit, i need me some Airmaxes and a minivan.

>>128633308
>>128633013
Be the change you want to see!

>>128624032
Check out this one, even better:

https://youtu.be/TCy_UOjEir0

This guy won the Nobel Prize and is an actual scientist, not a TV personality.

>>128639667
Yes it is dumbass. A belief is something a person holds to be true. I could believe that the earth is possibly flat.
I will then try to surmise that belief into a statement I can test (a hypothesis), and then that hypothesis will be put to the test (experimentation). With the results of that experimentation (analysis) I will then adjust my beliefs, and either adjust my hypothesis or create a new one, until I finally arrive at something that I can generalise (a theory) and/or prove (a proof).

Again:
>Kys faggot.

>>128623198
>Do you realize you might just domed us all?
Considering how the world is now, that would actually be an improvement
If it means more dead leftists than I am all for it, especially eurocucks

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>>128628926

Yeah because Coal is the future right? Those 56,000 jobs will keep the population safe.

It's not the american government denies climate change. They know it's happening. They're just relying on their voters to believe the shit they feed them while they recieve kickbacks from Oil companies.

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>>128640012
>This guy won the Nobel Prize
So did this guy.

>>128640332
That was a peace prize.. Those are worthless in the 21st century (BLM just got a peace prize (not Nobel, but still))

>>128626138

How can a fraction of a degree over 100 yrs result in global Armageddon when the temperature thought any given day changes in multiple degrees?

Seasonal temperature changes can be on the order of over 100 deg throughout a year yet a fraction of a degree in 100 yrs is concerning?

>>128635675
>>128635798
Let's import cheap labor from sub-saharan Africa and if you protest we'll cure your racism with "electricity". Black people are just as white as Europeans. Trust me; it's science because we use the "niverholz" model of curing racism, where we determine if a child can tell any difference between black and white Frenchmen. If they can, it's obviously racism and we excise the racist pattern matching parts of the brain.

>>128640689
Average temp, not daily temp.
Meaning that if the avg temp changes 10 degrees, your winters will be 10 degrees warmer, as will your summers.
Some things on earth (such as the polar caps & the snow on mountains) are pretty susceptible to smaller changes like that.

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I wish the ice caps would melt .theres oil under there. Sadly they wont.

>>128623198

Please kill yourself, Frenchie, you should be more worried about the immediate collapse of your Muslim nation than something that won't affect anyone for another thousand years....IF we can even control it.

Faggot.

>>128630188
How do we survived a day? 12 deg temp change today don't know if NYC could handle another fraction of a degree

>>128638959
>what you're looking for
You don't go look for something in science.
You try to prove that what you "believe" is wrong.

>>128641010
To clarify:
The ice caps use each winter to grow, and will shrink back down every summer.
If the average temperature rises by a single degree, a smaller section of the caps will grow back in the winter, and a larger section will melt in the summer.

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>>128623198
hahaha say goodbye to your (((climate change))) shekels ya faggots. Keep sucking Al Gores dusty old cock.

>>128634848
Three words: Words have meaning

>>128641010
You dumb motherfucker.

There is a chance in a century the average will be 0.4 degrees higher.

Fuck off.

>>128641324
Was adjusting my pool temp this morning, had it set for 83 degrees, I accidentally went to 85 degrees and boiled my children alive. Total bummer.