>he still owns a smartphone you guys know (((they))) use

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>>128523564
I actually only speak using a portal HAM radio and repeater stations.

I can text, talk, send video and photos. But, it's totally free and on a totally independent network. I can also broadcast encrypted singles and spread spectrum singles (which I do by default), while phones cannot.

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>>128523564
>thinking flip phones are safe
I use these babies for communicating with my pals. Work like a charm and completely untrackable.

>>128523899

how much does it cost to set one up? any guides?

>>128523564
I stil have one of those, best damn plan ever.

>>128523564

>highschool 2009
>talk about nike shoes to my bro
>nike ad pops up
>OHHSHIT
>show him he thinks its just coincidence
>show him fringe news websites saying thats its a real thing
>ppl think im crazy

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>not having telepathy

>Implying you can't get tracked just fine with any radio/phone

>>128523899
>Implying phones don't use encryption or frequency hopping
The world moved on from AMPS two decades ago, grandpa.

>>128524299
The set up is, unfortunately, quite expensive. It's actually cheaper (at least upfront) to by a brand new smart phone. The handheld radio I use in >>128523899 costs

>$370 for the base radio
>+$90 for a Bluetooth chip
>+$110 for a GPS with APRS
>+$40 for a better antenna
>+$90 for a better battery (you need a very strong battery for spread spectrum or satellite communications).

I suppose the benefit is once you get all those things, it's free to communicate. There are repeater stations everywhere that will re-transmit your signal (for free), and gateway stations (also free) grant you internet access; you can use WinLink to read emails, etc. I originally starting use a ham radio because I wanted to call friends in other countries, but cellphones in the early 2000s were incredibility expensive for international calls.

Anyways the downside, besides cost, is that you need a special license to do all these things as well. You need to past three tests for the FCC to grant you the highest license necessary needed to emulate a modern smart phone (simplex, text, CW, GPS, APRS, and internet connectivity). Honestly, it's really only worth it if you're interesting in learning about radios OR really care about security (encrypted spread spectrum communication is the most secure communication you're going to get).

>>128523899
Still traceable

>>128525445
The tests are piss easy though. General lets you do almost anything legally, and it only requires you to memorize a handful of regulations and use highschool algebra plus maybe one or two questions about logarithms.

>>128525688
Nearly forgot, band plans.

>>128525026
>the thought that saved /pol/

>>128523899
You're joking, right? radio is the most monitored form of communication there is. And even if the government didn't care, autists will dox the shit out of you if you don't have a license and shit.

Of you at ALL think this is a good way to stay off the radar you're fucking retarded.

>>128523899

nigga how the fuck are you gonna pull that thing out when you just ran game on a girl and its time to get her fucking number

>ay girl hang on a second
*pulls out walkie-talkie*
>ye about my phone
*girl looks at you funny
>dis is...i can talk on HAM...
*girl wonders what the fuck is wrong with you
>so, uh...lemme punch ur digits into my repeater
*slides up antenna*
*girl gives you a fake number because you look like a fag with that shit*

>>128525280
>>Implying you can't get tracked just fine with any radio/phone
still, atleast the ad jews aren't making money off you.

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>>128525824
It's very compact, chicks dig them.
>>128525876
>Implying
Pic related.

>>128523564
Because this is a culture war, and will not be won without an online presence

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>>128524190
>talking to anyone at all
they cant track you if you dont say anything

>>128525818
>You're joking, right? radio is the most monitored form of communication there is.
Right. But you can broadcast encrypted signals to satellites you literally launch yourself. It doesn't matter if they know you're transmitting so long as they don't know _what_ you're transmitting. In fact, spread spectrum communication is below the noise floor, so it almost appears as if you're broadcasting pure noise. If I really want to hide a message (rarely), I can just use that.

If you actually thing radio is more monitored than the NSA literally collecting 100% of your texts, you're delusional.

>And even if the government didn't care, autists will dox the shit out of you if you don't have a license and shit.
This part is true. If you don't have a call sign, people will get pissed and actually try to find you. Where I live, there's actually a core of retards who try to find pirate radio stations (they're really good at it, too).

>>128526095
>t. keyboard warrior

please tell me how get threads on /pol/ and twitter wars will win anything.

>>128523564
>ONE good reason
3G has been hackable since 2001'ish.
SIM card in a phone is all that is needed to return location info. ATT and other providers have a tool for business customers even to track the whereabouts of 3G SIMs (for m2m/IoT things).

>>128523564
>2017
>owning a mobile phone
>not installing mobile linux

>>128526258
>broadcast encrypted signals
Can't use encryption on a HAM license.
>128526246
.

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tfw program both thumbprints to make it easier to unlock my phone.
Willingly gave the government my thumbprints
Won't burn off thumbprints because then I'll have to go back to typing in unlock code

Because my job requires it

Kikes have me cornered anon

>>128523899
I like my VX7 very much.

>>128525818
Its actually really hard to trace if you are not TX all the time.

>>128526553
Yes you can. If the signal is being used to control a satellite, the FCC permits it (in fact, they recommend it for obvious reasons). Broadcasts to a satellite to store a message, and broadcasts to retrieve a message are permitted, as well is encrypted telemetry.

>>128523564
If a happening really happens I'll simply throw my phone away.

Until then I'm not going to put my self in the Stone Age for no real reason

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>>128526258
>Implying implications

>>128526394
>SIM card in a phone is all that is needed to return location info.
maybe, but the point is that they'd have to go out of their way to do it, unlike phones with literal GPS chips that effortless send your location 24/7 no matter what.

in fact if you google businesses (i know I know, jewgle), it will even tell you how busy that place is around the time you google it. how do you think they get that info? it literally says "people usually spend X minutes here." I doubt it was by phoning up the business/restaurants and asking them. even if you don't use google maps, if you have an android phone it will learn your movement patterns and give you traffic data for what it thinks is your daily commute in advance via push notifications without you asking or "enabling" the GPS. I know cause it's happened to me.

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>>128523564
I just don't care anymore. I can't shitpost at work on a fucking flip phone.

>>128525824
this is the most uneducated post I've read this month

>>128523564
got to have a smart phone need it for the hotspot, I'm out in the middle of the woods only internet option.

I've always been on a dumbphone but as soon as I move in a few weeks I'm ditching the cell phone entirely and going to hardwired house phone and an answering machine. Once I move I won't have any responsibilities that will require anyone to be able to reach me immediately outside working hours. I can't wait.

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>>128523564
I use this.

>>128526771
>Yes you can. If the signal is being used to control a satellite
Yeah, but cubesats/nanosats aren't geosynchronous - so you have maybe 2 weeks max per launch to do secret things.
Wasn't aware of that exception though, thanks anon.

>>128526897
>out of their way
The tool I was given by AT&T (circa 2009) was just an API call that when given a phone number, returned a list of cell towers it was last connected to, datetime, and rssi. Each query added ~$.05 to our bill and had no rate or number limits.
But yeah, there are dozens of ways to geolocate smartphones ... the 'enable high accuracy gps' setting is the one that Google abuses the most though. It uses wifi access point proximity as it's primary means to identify customers.
My phone is off 99% of the time - so I agree with you even though Im disagreeing.

>>128527801
These don't work on gsm networks.

It's unfortunate, too, because they're coverage range is nearly 800% better than normal phones.

>>128527801
AT&T and other carries have dropped support for 2G though.

>>128527912
>>128527947
Then move to Singapore. Mine still works perfectly here.

Use fucking smoke signals senpai.

>>128527731
That sounds comfy.

>>128524190
Watch out for the scissor jew

>>128526367
If you have a life outside of your house, a phone with internet is the only way to stay caught up.

Take your knowledge into the real world.

little piece of shit

>>128528516
That's what a laptop is for.

I want nothing but to get rid of my smartphone.
they are a curse
the nav is onyl real thing I use it for

>>128523564

Who cares? Sure they monitor you.... AND?

You are acting like domestic intelligence is new, also there is so much info there. Easier for corporations to find their keywords, but for governments eh until they start taking free speech away we are safe.

I really dont care if a corporation gives me better targeted ads. There is more important things to worry about.

>>128528516
>>128528584
The retarded tripfag is write in this case. I have wireless internet basically wherever I go, and carry an X220 for internet access. It's cumbersome, but it works.

>>128528781
*right

Now I sound like a retarded chink.

>>128528516
>the only way to stay caught up.
caught up with what? there is literally nothing on the internet that can't wait 8 or so hours until you get home after work or school to check up on it.

seriously, try it one day, you'll see you don't need to spend every waking hour on the internet. you can go offline for quite a long time before you miss anything. in case of a REAL happening shit will be going on in the streets anyway

>>128523564
I'd post a reply with pic, but got rid of it two weeks ago. For real withdrawal symptoms.

>>128523564
I'm a law abiding resident of the United States and have no problem with these fucking Jews spying on me, but I do believe it's fucked up.

>>128528781
o fug forgot I had my trip on. I assure you I only mean to use it for furiously shiposting.

>>128528059
I visited your country once it was beautiful and now I'm reading Lee Kuan Yew's book about Singapore's history and it's great. I can't wait to visit again.

>>128523564
you can still be tracked via a feature phone, or any gsm device, via cell tower triangulation and your phone's pinging of gsm services. fun fact: this is true even if it's turned off (you'd have to remove the battery to disable tracking)

>>128523564
You can still be tracked via telemetry on any cell phone unless you take the battery out while you're not using it.

>>128523564
i know, i dont care.

>>128528622
Buy a map, they're not that expensive and niggers don't try to steal them.

>>128528206
Yeah I can't wait and I'm really excited about it. I'll also be walking distance from my job and all the shopping and leisure I could want so I won't need to drive unless I want to, which is even better. As long as nobody slips a tracker in my boots I'll be as far off the grid as you can be in public.

I also want one of those hoodies with the IR LED lights in the hood that white out CCTV cameras.

>>128529003
actually, even if you remove the battery there's often still a small battery (to keep time, among other things) that can be used for emergency pings.

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>>128523564
If you are truly red pilled, consumerism isn't in your vocabulary anymore, you don't buy shit you don't need, advertisements have zero effect on you.

>>128528059
How good is pay vs price of pussy in singapore?

>>128529228
amen canada centurion

can you find n kill that obama kanuk?

>>128529172
Brotip: You're not going to white out a CCTV unless it's pitch black out and you have super bright LEDs.

>still using popular thing?
>fuckinig kucklod lol you should use old thing!

>>128523899

> Spend a bunch of money to do ham and stay secure
> Giving your name and address to /them/ and anyone who wants to look you up.

Ham if you want but you're better off with a burner for opsec. Considering it's such a expensive and obscure hobby you stick out like boner in sweatpants.

>>128526258

Never got this, since call signs are public, can't you just use one? Also if you live in a dense area or use ham unlicensed while you keep moving isn't that pretty hard to actually orangize the autists to triangulate you.

At the end if you're not causing issues on emergency / police / military does the FCC actually do more than a slap on the wrist? Seems like acting stupid 'it said cb on Alibaba!' is pretty common since people are retarded.

Hams are little bitchs with their stupid tests.

>>128526406

> What is hardware backdoors
> What is closed firmware behind nda in the radios

>>128523564
>you guys know (((they))) use it to track you right?
Even when I normally leave it at home?

>2017 not using your own fleet of trained carrier birds and rats

Because blending in with the rest of the noise keeps me of the radar.

If I go great lengths to avoid being tracked all the time I stand out as a person of interest.

By partaking in the mundane day to day while being tracked I just blend in with every other person.

The difference between myself and most of the other bluepilled plebs is I know how to make myself dissapear if need be.


Theass surveillance is a tool that can be used by all party's involved if you are clever

>>128523899
i feel as though thats a sure fire way to get cancer

>>128529616
>At the end if you're not causing issues on emergency / police / military does the FCC actually do more than a slap on the wrist?
The FCC cannot imprison you for "pirate" radio transmissions. Federal law dictates a fine and civil forfeiture of your transmitting equipment. The punishment can never be more serious than that.

>>128530398
There are no health risks associated with non-ionizing RF radiation.

>not using carrier pigeon
lmao telecommunication cucks

>>128523564
>nigger doesnt know how cell towers work

>>128530372

This. Hiding in plain sight is the way to go.

>>128530463

So providing you don't do anything major disruptive you're basically good.

>>128528840
The purpose of staying informed is to help prevent a happening

>>128530463
>Implying the FCC even cares most of the time

>>128523564
these still hold the sss7 fuckup that allows tracking and listening in

https://streamable.com/te2b8

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>>128523564
flip phone for the one, im flippin my shit on the bus while all you foolish dummies stay swipin on your gobernment dog leash, haha suckers

>>128528840

What would I do when I'm pooping?

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>>128530915
That's very unhygienic, honestly, are you serious, you're the one using your smart phone in the toilet ? Are you mad ? Literally, why do you do this ? Why use a toilet phone, that literally has poo germs, then hold it up to your ear , do you just not care ? why ? keep your phone away from the toilet and keep all items that you use in the toilet, in the bathroom or washroom because they all have poo germs, but apparently you dont care, i see how it is with you

>>128523564
My uni make it necessary to have WhatsApp because most of the informations are passed using WhatsApp group. It annoys me knowing that I can never uninstall WhatsApp or risk getting uninformed on any activities

>>128531518
faggotry

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>>128523564
They can track flip and simple phones. It just provides less information than a smart phone. That is why I still have my flip phone.

>>128531518
We get spammed on a uni email with continuous shite - it literally drives me nuts how much nothingness crap they send me. 'IMPORTANT[Ultra-High Priority]: Your accommodation is having its windows cleaned by staff tomorrow DO NOT BE ALARMED'

>>128523564
Nigger, not everyone is a neet manchild that lives in his mothers basement.
actual adults have to interact with people, not only friends, but also work, you need to be connected to function.

>>128531618
i know, this is pretty much the only solace you can have as an aware consumer that boycotts the greater amount of data smart phones collect. Or build your own phone

>>128532128
>haha silly loser, don't you understand that my job is so important that I NEED to be contacted by my jew boss at all hours of the day so that I can do more work even when not at work? and also my friendships rule my life so they must also have immediate access to me haha that's how I LIKE my life

the phone in the OP has calls and texts, you literaly don't need anything else for work or family/friends.

>>128528851
Always remember this, Anon: You don't determine if you've broken any laws. They do.

>>128523564
1 I don't give a fuck and 2 if you watch me for too long you'll probably hurt your little brain. so its actually like I get to torture them for free.

>>128523564
I can't play Angry Birds on a Nokia

>>128529420
Given that they're IR LEDs, they can be as bright as I want and nobody would be able to tell with the naked eye. Second, they don't have to white out the entire screen, just the part around my face, which doesn't require that much energy at all.

>>128532594
you live in the UK my man, it is already literally a surveillance state.

>>128532128
I had a fifty post argument with some child in Italy about exactly this. You don't really need it, and if you do your company should provide you with it as part of your job. You're just trying to justify your cell phone addiction. There's nothing wrong with that as long as you're honest about why you won't give it up and don't make up justifications you think anonymous strangers on the internet will believe.

>>128532682
A: IR LEDs usually glow a dull red when on. B: If there's a large amount of ambient light, it's not going to work all that well.

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>>128532429
NIGGER, NOBODY USES SMS'S ANYMORE, WHAT YEAR ARE YOU LIVING IN?
whatsapp is all people use, with some degree of facebook chat
yes my job is important to me, once you become an actual adult with bills to pay, you will understand.
yes, my friends are important to me, also girls, can you imagine?

>this was such a great night anon, let's talk through whats app any other day.
>*takes out old as fuck flip phone*
>anon what the hell is that
>Ohh I-I-I don't use whats app because le jewss and le government uses smartphones to sell me ads and I don't want to be a part of it
>alright, bye then
>never sees her again

is that you anon? i bet it is.

>>128523564

overrated. will probably replace with flip phone at some point.

>>128533218

what's the tinder scene like in bolivia?

>>128533218
honestly if a bitch doesn't get wet at the fact that you're fighting The Man when she can fuck off tbqh famalam

>>128533218
>being so poor women look down on you for being eccentric
You should spend less time chasing girls and getting laughed at by the NSA and more time accumulating wealth and getting /fit/ so you're ACTUALLY attractive.

>>128524190
Nu uh. I just follow the string and i can back trace you

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>>128533494
>eccentric
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
nice word you used there instead of autistic

>>128525824
Kekekeke funnay

>>128527731
all I have is a hard line and I don't even leave the phone plugged in unless I'm making outgoing calls.

>>128533492
> hey baby, wanna fight the Jews and chill?
Tbqhwyfampaisan I would be all over a girl who said that to me

>>128533452
I don't use tinder, the texting gets in the way, it's like trying to clean your ass with gloves, i prefer to approach them in real life because i can see her body language and expressions and i know in a few minutes if she's interested or not.

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Lol fucking pleb doesn't even know that smart phones emit cancerous radiation so in about 20 years or so everyone's gonna have cancer and we'll all open our eyes and see the truth the mobile phone Jews don't want us to know, phones will be viewed as the once unknown slow killer just like like we view the cigarette phenomenon of way back when. Little baby like op and the rest of you niggercucks are still on your pussy, entry-level theories regarding the topic. Fucking little fagbois

TL;DR
You're a wimpy nigger

>>128534782
>RF
>Cancerous
It's a few orders of magnitude too low frequency for that.

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Smartphones were a fucking mistake along with social media. Sometimes I wish 2008 never happened.

>>128535274
Not smartphones as much as social media obsession.

>>128523564
Whatsapp uses end to end encryption...

>>128523564

Because I want them to know that I know.

Out of the darkness, into the light.

Bahahaha the simpler your transceiver is, the easier it is to track.

>>128535274
Nigger, internet, along with smartphones and social media are a fucking blessing for us, can't you see???
before those things the MSM dominated all narrative, nobody could prove anything but today you can't pull the bullshit anymore
if it wasn't for social media and the internet the media would sweep most of these terror attacks under the carpet, they would downplay the numbers without anyone to check
literally the internet is what elected donald trump, without the internet wikileaks wouldn't exist, therefore the DNC leaks wouldn't exist, therefore Donald Trump wouldn't get elected, and of course the memes.

>>128525026
Can I get a rundown on this guy?

>>128535838
dead meme is dead.

>>128525026

Normies always get really freaked out when you tell them what they're going to say, though.

>>128535589

Only if they know who you are to begin with.

>>128536553
You don't need to know who's transmitting something to track it.

>>128523899
Do you have a mental illness by any chance?

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I love my old phones

>>128537003
wash your bedding

>>128536684

Natch, but you need to have a connection to one of the parties to even know it exists.

Too much traffic, keywords and linguistics analyzation are easely fukt with :^)

>>128537003
the nokia in the middle is slick AF

>>128536958
DIFFERENT NOT LESS

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>>128537003
>no rotary

pleb

>>128536958

No, but my mommy told me I'm really special.

>>128536958
No.

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>>128537003

Did you beat someone with that phone 2nd from left on the top?

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>>128523564
>he doesn't know that most of the recent terrorist attacks have been orchestrated by people using p2p messaging apps on burner phones....

PROTIP : If you put stuff on your phone that could incriminate you then you deserve to get caught.
If you treat the phone as a tool like it should be then you'll find that for the most part you've got nothing to worry about.

>>128524190
spbp

>>128537087
I was pulling it off to do that when I took that photo

>>128537228
Xpressmusic

>>128537334
It was thrown out before I could save it.

>>128537525
threw it out the window of a car going 45mph, it still workes

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>>128523564
why communicate with people at all?

The only reason i have a smartphone is the camera is great and to use Spotify for music.

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>>128526246
this was the real point of the snowden leaks. nothing in government changed and we all now self censor

>>128523564
I've thought about it. 100% listen to you

>>128525824
>AYO HOL UP HOL UP
>My nigga my nigga nigga
>Gotta run dat game nigga
>How you pulling that number nigga
>Bitches ain't dig dat ham phone nigga
>Ain't gettin dat dick wet without iPhone 74 OS my nigga

Truly the modern burger in a nutshell. Kill yourself my nigga.

>>128535623
true, but I believe the internet also caused mental illness in 95% of people. It drains your dopamine growing up

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>>128525824

>implying you can't 2way your sidebitch on a HAM

>2017
>not using smoke signals so (((they))) can't track you

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>>128523564

What do people take photos of I never use my phone camera for anything :((((((((

>>128538570
it just shined a light on what was already there. before the internet freaks where isolated, now freaks can easily find other freaks with which to be freaky with.

>>128538924
dick pics

>>128537587
I fill my phone with pictures of black dick, gay sex, furries and other forms of degeneracy to offset my posting here.

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>>128539004
There's an NSA agent fapping to your phone right now.

>>128528516
Caught up in what?
>linuxphone ftw

>>128538925
but now there are freaks that never would have existed. children now start playing on smartphones at 3-4 years old

there is also a giant spike of mental illness, everyone has something from depression to bipolar, and I think internet at young age is the culprit

>>128537003
how is that razer so well taken care of? after regular use mine was falling apart in high school

>>128530644
>he wants to stop happenings

I hope while you are face deep in your phone you get hit by a truck

>>128538924
take vids of the next terrorist attack, we'll need footage

>>128539309

Made me feel warm and fuzzy inside, thanks anon.

>>128534782
even if true, you'd literally have to live innawoods since everyone around you has cellphones in urban areas

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>>128523564
2017 and im still using the same phone in this pic.

>>128523564
Even without the reasons you listed, they are a shitty waste of time and money

I find this thread very interesting. where can I learn more about masking my communications? for beginners.

>>128537908
>not funposting so hard you become untrackable

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>>128526246
Not a bad use of this new meme

8/10

>>128540172
and no ad blocker either jesus get with the times

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>>128540944
Simplest:
Use a burner phone with a cheapy sim bought on the blackmarket in batches.

Normie tier: put something like signal on phone to message, turn off all gps and wifi connection seeking
Store all docs on encrypted sd card if not encrypt phone storage.

>>128523564
what exactly are you saying that you don't want others to hear? They are there to protect you from those who want to harm. Not those that want to masterbate to traps and pretend to be furried on internet chatrooms. They dont care about you. Get over yourself

>>128529205
>secret battery
Haven't seen such a thing. Most phones get their time from the network anyway.
>>128535434
They get you at the endpoints.
>>128542375
JTRIG effects operator spotted

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>>128525824
Go be a nigger somewhere else.

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>>128542375

>what exactly are you saying that you don't want others to hear

That's for you to find out, innit big goy?

>>128539446
it was only used for a few months, I didn't like it, it felt to fragile.

>>128539403
People where always this freaky, they just aren't as isolated as they once where.

>>128539403
The world is shit. More people can compare notes more easily and see that this is fact. Appearances don't count for much anymore.

>>128537587
WHO DIS

>>128523564
Because they can track you just as easily with a flip phone by triangulating you off the cell towers.

t. Telecom engineer

>>128544926
good luck I'm behind 7 layers of tinfoil

>>128544926

Where's the fun in that though?

Hot mics = lulz

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>>128544877
Literally one right click and about 2 sec.
Don't be a lazy cunt
lɯʇɥ˙iuiʞiq-ƃuoɥʇ-ƃuiɹɐǝʍ-ɟɹns-ƃuiʇɹoʌɐɔ-sʇǝssɐ-spuɐɥ-sʇǝƃ-ʎǝuuiʞɔW-ǝʇʇolɹɐɥƆ-lnɟpuɐɥ-ǝldɯɐ-u∀/ㄣ6ϛᄅ6ƖƐ-ǝlɔiʇɹɐ/ziqʍoɥsʌʇ/ʞn˙oɔ˙liɐɯʎliɐp˙ʍʍʍ//:dʇʇɥ

>>128523564
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>>128523564
>stingray only works on phone pictured and typically works at up to 200 meters.

Although new classified versions are being designed for lte networks its known as hailstorm.

>>128545254
uhm
big tits
sadly refrigerator body and barely hips
thin legs
big feet
6/10
would breed tho, need to improve the height of my children

>>128526587
I know that feel.
I hope you at least didn't give all of your fingers

>>128538738
I still can see your furry porn. Please stop for god sakes.