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I keep reading: 'Why don't you fight back?' Here

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I keep reading: 'Why don't you fight back?'

Here are some issues:

>"someone else will do it"
>"I don't want to lose my job/get sacked/removed from uni."
>"I live far too comfortably to risk my lifestyle to be ostracised by society for holding different opinions."
>"I'm a NEET with no funding, I can't imagine doing anything OFF the internet."

>there are no good organisations to combat the government over this. On one hand we've got May wanting a police state and a commie who wants no borders.
>the people who are organised in the UK are edgy skinhead faggots who normal people stay 100 miles away from.
>by normal people I mean people like your mum and her friends.

I don't condone violence, I'm saying without the above points addressed, no such change will occur.
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>>128444029
If thats how it is, i cant condone you for making your own choices. However I daresay shits really gonna have to hit the fan before you find your spine. Because it sounds like you wont move unless you have nothing left to lose.
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>>128444753
I'm speaking this for the general population, I'm as fed up of this shit as anyone here.
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>>128444029
Organize and raid for a living.
No one gets a job if everything is on lockdown.
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everybody who says "stay and fight!" is 100% a foreigner who does not understand our unique situation

inb4 americans reply with "WELL LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, IF WE....BLAHBLAHBLAH"
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>>128444029
You people can't fight back if you haven't evem mobilized. You're divided.
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>>128445487
People are still more bothered about the class divide which has fucked us up since the 70s
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>>128444029
The fight back should be against the US and its master izrale
Boycott US goods and anything connected with the US
The US is responsible for all of this, going WAY back, back beyond the Gulf War or any of the other shit stirring wars for profit launched on the mid east and elsewhere
Destroy the hoped for US empire
Do it now and don't wait for it to collapse on its own as all empires must
The US is responsible
The US and izrale alone

So don't be deluded don't be fooled
It's all the fault of the US from start to finish
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>>128445573
LARP
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>>128444753
what he's saying is there's no benefit to making ourselves martyrs if it's not going to lead to anything, which it won't

if i get to work tomorrow and there's a labour/ lib dumb/ green protest outside for some reason, and one of them gets in my way i will personally curbstomp the cunt. but put my (new) job and career on the line and ruin my life for no good reason? why would i do that?

it's mostly burgers making these dumb "le fight back" remarks anyway. like you idle cunts would do anything if somebody set off a bomb in jew york or there were a few (more) stabbings in chicago. you'd sit on the internet shitposting as usual, because ultimately you're no more willing to do anything than anyone in europe is.
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>>128445756
this
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>>128445727
there are too many LARPing americans on this board, true

>the country with no identity and no culture tells its ancestral continent how to preserve its own

quaint
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>>128445573
Hello Mohammad. Are you enjoying your nice vacation in Australia? Do you like the spiders?

How much money are you and your family scamming from the taxpayers?
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>>128445202
Kek shut up fagg i got knifed 2 times by gypsys and put in the hospital.The 3rd time i put them in the hospital since i brought knifes and friends.I had ropes in the police so i only got away with a ticket....kek.
You can always dupe and fuck the systembover you just dont have the right mentality for it.....
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>>128444029
Don't listen lad, these peopel are retarded hypocrites who don't understand that society couldn't work if it didn't divide roles between people. Most here wouldn't even go to a protest never mind go beating up muslims.
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>>128444029
What we need is fascism and brown shirts, but how do we get anyone to take that seriously in the UK?
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>>128446108
LOL WHAT A FUCKING BADMAN YOU ARE

Another fucking LARP solution
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>>128445756
The burgers shit themselves and fall to bits
You should have heard them on 9/11
What a pack of panic merchants
No one could reason with them
They were shitting themselves all over the place
Because the US has never felt the boots of enemy feet. The US hasn't suffered for all the strife it's caused worldwide
The US stirs the pot and profits from both sides
The US sits back and watches the world burn
But when a few buildings are brought down deliberately by kikes for cash, the US wets itself
Oh my bug out kit
Oh my cave in the hills
Oh my guns
Oh fear fear fear, the 'rag heads' have bombed us. What can we do? Why isn't the world helping us
Then Bush standing there, 'You're either with us or against us'
and dragging every tiny little nation on earth into the slaughter of mid easterners which was the purpose of 9/11 and long planned and Silverstein had his insurance policies up to date

Burgers will feel it up close and personal in the future
In the meantime, they play observers like the jews on the hill watching Operation Cast Lead

Burgers are the biggest cowards and drama queens I've ever seen
Typical bullies who like to dish it out but run for their mother when it comes back at them as I hope it does damn soon
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>>128444029
+ the fact that taking any action against muzzies will make the lefties cream their pants, cuz now they can claim that "white men are da REAL TERRORISTS!!!"
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>>128446156
Whatever you say faggot next time you see a mislim bend over i personally would kill him and go to prison but then again i am not a weak westerner pussy faggot.That is why we dont have muslims....kek.
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>>128446377
This isn't your fucking country you ignorant autist. Things are different here.
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>>128444029
The truth is people arent nearly fed up enough yet. It will have to get worse before it gets better.
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>>128444029
The only thing we can do is be prepared.
Make sure you have the ability to defend your home. Even basic tools are enough.
If something happens while you are away from home, the key is to act, not freeze up or run. They expect that where as if you go full on psycho at them with anything you have to hand you might win and others may join you. This is only in a kill or be killed situation though, only the government can be proactive and they choose not to be.
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>>128446149

Fascism and brown shirts will never happen unless in the highly unrealistic scenario there is a coup. I've spoken to leftists who would rather be blown up by radicals than 'live in a Nazi utopia'.
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>>128446075
he's right you know, you fell for jewish schemes back in the 19th century hook line and sinker. your own stupidity and willingness to do whatever they told you to is what has led us to the mess we're in now. if you'd had a pogrom back in the 1920/30s to deal with your own jews at the same time they were manipulating germany into eradicating european jewry (/pol/ forgets that jews will happily fuck over other jews for a few shekels, US jews indirectly caused the 'holocaust') then europe would still be completely white and conservative and the US would still be over 80% white, with the minorities having no power.

never forget that you american cunts, your own failure to deal with your own jews is what caused the mess we're in now.
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>>128444029
I and most us are still invested in society. Ultimately we believe that the best path for us to start and raise families requires continued respect for the rule of law. We have a lot left to lose.

This is what limits our desire to use illegal violence.

Muslims are highly inclined to illegal violence because they have little to no investment in the rule of law. Polygamy creates a large population of prospectless men who see conquest as the best means to get access to women.
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>>128446619
I think I would, Nazism is totally antithetic to British values, if Britain was ever a fascist country it wouldn't be Britain anymore.
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>>128446075

He's right, you dumb kike. The U.S is the giant, steroided psychopath on the playground doing what Israel, the scheming little cunt, tells it to.
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>>128444029
um how the fuck are we gonna fight back.

You get jailed just for insulting muslims on the internet
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The best course of action for us is to convert normies to the point where our truth becomes mainstream and gassings occur.

Breivik style shit is counter productive at best.
Don't listen to the jews telling you to go out and bomb somewhere,(((they))) wait for this excuse patiently to bag in and watch every slightly right wing person on the west.
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>>128446291
>Burgers are the biggest cowards and drama queens I've ever seen
Typical bullies who like to dish it out but run for their mother when it comes back at them as I hope it does damn soon


very very good post
but what else can we expect from a nation descended from failures
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>>128446612
I'm lucky that I live in a small town in Scotland, I honestly can't believe what I read about in England about Rochdale and Rotherham.
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>>128446291
You are so mad right now kek
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>>128446857
Kek shouldn't you be cleaning the streets of your people's blood? Next one is coming next week btw
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>>128446291
After all we've done for you, Austria.
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>>128446782
this

another thing foreigners fail to understand. it's possible to be a nationalist and despise nazism, the fact they think this means (((they))) have influenced us is evidence of this failure to understand the culture or history of this country.
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>>128446641
They know it too
They know in their gut they're living on borrowed time
All those bible thumping, apple pie stuffing idiots in the US Midwest thinking nothing can touch them
And of course, the US education system (oxymoron) doesn't teach Americans that their entire population is less than 5% of the planet
They seem to think they're 90%
And because they've never been tested, because they fill their faces and have never gone hungry, because they buy the bullshit on their infantile brain damaging tv, because they think all wars will forever be 'over there somewhere', they are unprepared and actually believe that forty tons of baked beans stowed in an old shipping container underground will save their idiot lives
Americans have a lot to learn and it's to be doubted they'll ever develop sufficiently to grasp the monster they are, the bloodshed for which they're responsible as they gawp at transsexuals and play games
They're ripe for slaughter and it's coming their way and they're too brain dead to see five minutes ahead of what they're doing right now
US pain is long overdue
I almost feel sorry for them
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>>128446991
don't throw stones from glass houses anon
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>>128444029
reality is that youll just be put in jail for trying. excuse here in america is we will lose our careers and be ostracized in most of the country, in europe and canada you go to jail for not gleefully applauding the conquer and extermination of your culture and race. Part of me thinks that once your bag lady dies in england theres a chance for your King to step up and save your asses, but im pretty sure thats just a hopeful fantasy.


You do realize that in one generation youll start having breakaway islamic republics attacking you from what is now small no go zones right? and a generation after that youll be the oppressed minority without the care and tolerance you bestowed to your conquerors.
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>>128444029

Then you all deserve to die, and Islam deserves its place in the West. If short term inconvenience for long term salvation is too much for you, you don't deserve what little freedom you still have.
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>>128446870
Good for you jock-bro, I'm in a comfy village too (with lots of history related to crusaders oddly enough) but there's a multi-culti city nearby (not one of the big ones but bad enough)
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>>128447290
Yeah, but try tell that to 90% of the British population. It's the hardest pill to swallow.
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>>128447301
And that includes Americans
You forgot to make that clear
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>>128444029
Ah the ol' "you can't organize to defend yourself or make a statement because those you want to defend or make a statement against have made such an endeavour socially taxing" predicament.

Frustating, isn't it?

As soon as modern men stop giving a shit about what the communist next door thinks, they can start fixing things.

>but what will ______ think?

I realize in places like the UK, its extra rough to stand up for yourself.

That being said, you've already lost.
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>>128444029
Fighting back has become so socially unacceptable that anyone who did would not only risk prison, but also the support from friends and family and any future career and income. Few are willing to sacrifice everything, even for a worthy cause.

The people who fought to protect their people used to be seen as heroes. What we really have to do is silence the jewish media who has tricked us to view our heroes as villans and the villians as heroes.
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>>128447218
it's just another form of socialism, you'd think americans would despise it as well. Britain isn't about using populism to support authoritarian regimes, it's about monarchism, the rule of law and liberty. Nationalism in the UK should only mean freedom from tyranny for it's citizens.
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>>128446870
i grew up just outside rotherham, the news stories only cover half the story. the 1400 figure was very conservative if anything, and i 100% guarantee it's still going on now.
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>>128444029

I think the biggest factor is if we do something to fuck with the Muzzies at this stage theres a good chance it will be counterproductive. The media loves taking what little morsels we give them and concocting stories about "nazis" and "fascists" and pretending our brand of "extremism" is just as evil and as big a threat as Islamic invaders who mass murder random kids and women every few weeks. I worry that if we do something (specifically talking about violent action) that the MSM will then go crazy with the propaganda and use it to drive normies away from the cause. That whites who were slowly getting redpilled after constant muslim aggression will then go "See! its not islam thats the problem! theres terrorists and extemists on both sides!"

So its a difficult situation. I think for now the action should be things like hurting islamic business through sabotage and intimidation more so than violence. Contaminate halal supplies, destroy halal delivery trucks, threaten politicians and community leaders who are known to push islamic agendas, vandalise stores that sell halal meat or the Koran etc etc. As well as putting thousands of leaflets through peoples doors redpilling them on the reality of the situation. Telling them not to use muslim businesses etc etc.

Other than that, all white males should be quietly prepared. Stay in shape, train in something like MMA or boxing if you can, stockpile whatever weapons you are able to have in your country (or more besides if youre quiet about it) and just overall make sure you can mobilize and be a fucking menace if/when the SHTF and you are allowed to defend your country without your own people trying to hold you back.
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>>128445888
>>128445756

One person protesting is just an idiot. A few thousand is a new story. 50 thousand is a movement.

Nevermind. It's tea time.
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A nationwide strike would have politiicans talking out of the other side of their face
A simple down tools
The banks would have a coronary
Industry would kick the shit out of politicians
A media strike .. just turn them off .. would have an equally unsettling effect on the criminals posing as politicians
And of course there are so many other ways to make them shit themselves into a radical rethink
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Sharpe!

What a series.
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>>128446806
But to be honest, the lobbyists are to blame for that, now if there were an uprising and a coup d'etat to oust the lobbyists, than maybe we can bring change. But until those foreign lobbyists go, we can't do shit.
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There's not a lot you can do. Society and government has got out of control with various powerful entities with vested interests fucking shit up for their own ends and the only thing that will stop the current trajectory, and probably the best we can hope for, is a massive collapse. In this circumstance you will need to hunker down and take care of your own family/street/community until shit gets sorted out.
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>>128446430
Yea we know, the romanians dont have "I must suck mudslime dick" engraved in their brain like you do. All of your solutions more or less revolve around that.

The solutions are fairly simple, its just that your retarded brains and your ego has created such a dumb web of thoughts that you cant even just simply punch a mudslime in the face. To brush your teeth you probably need a thousand different cuck thoughts as to why you should even do it.

Sometimes complexities also hide away personal flaws, like weakness, low genetic quality and cowardice. You guys definitely have layers upon layers build around the fact that you are not men anymore, but sissies.
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>>128446430
>Things are different here.
HAHAH yeah we are all well aware of that
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>>128447707
Dad studied law at Leeds in the 70s and he had friends who worked part time in social care in the area and even then it was bad, at least 5 cases a week of white girls molested by asians. Can easily imagine maybe 40,000 incidents in total since then acriss Britain.
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>>128447666
>fuck populism, the will of the people
>monarchy is great, because a book told a man he was special 800 years ago

Holy shit you guys are donezo
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>>128444029
>I don't condone violence
That's the worst thing I've ever heard and I keep hearing it a lot. What does ''don't condone violence'' even mean. What if I come at you and start punching you to death because hey I'm a psycho who cares.
You're just gonna sit there and take it because you don't do violence? You're gonna tell me ''sir I disagree with you punching me to a pulp right now'' and hope I stop?
>inb4 well yes sure for self defense it is cond-

NO, FAGGOT. YOU EITHER CONDONE IT OR YOU DON'T.
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Any way to covertly and consistently give whole areas of muslims birth control or some kind of fertility damaging substance in a way that wont effect lots of whites as well?
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>>128447976
>>128447932
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>>128448070
what the fuck that's not the image I posted
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>The mad Aussie in this thread
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Your media needs to be taken down. They are the ones pumping toxic bullshit into the minds of pliable normies. Figure it out.
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>>128446695
We aren't going to start fighting back illegally until enough people feel like respect for the rule of law is preventing them from raising children.

Therefore there are two things I think we should be doing:

1. Support legal/political efforts to solve the problem. It's a long shot, and time is short, but it's least painful solution if we can pull it off.

2. Be prepared on a personal and familial level for a world where illegal violence becomes necessary. Be armed, lift, and organize with like-minded people.

Just my 2 cents.
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>>128444029
At the very least one can vote for uncucked candidates.
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>>128447666
I started work in an american company a few months back, and the first time I met a senior director who'd never left the US I was surprised. But then I met more americans who had never left their "great country", and now I don't even raise an eyebrow.

maybe we are too harsh on them, this is a nation which takes everything it sees on their (incredibly biased) TV stations to be gospel. That's another thing, if any of you have to go to the states any time soon, make sure to watch their TV for at least a while, especially the news if possible. I thought the BBC was a disgrace but american TV is a whole new level, it truly is brain rot. And what's more, hundreds of millions of them watch that literal electric jew every day. Now I think about it it's starting to make me angry, that citizens of a nation like that dare tell others about their countries and societies.
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>>128444029

are you a millennial? if so, here's the deal: we will not be the ones to fight back and reclaim our countries, we will be the ones that support those that will fight. what is our greatest problem right now? we have no higher support. as many rightfully said here, we may larp and act as if this was the american civil war, but that leads us nowhere. at worst, some may take their larping to the streets and get picked apart one by one. stupid!

no, we have to become the higher support that we didn't have in our earlier years. search your heart and realize this is true. the one hole of our generation is that there was no "higher ups", nothing to guide or provide us. to end this cycle, we must gear ourselves for the long struggle. become industrialists, become agrarians, get yourself into a position where you could provide the coming generations with materials (perhaps even weapons?), with spiritual and tactical guidance, with information. we must become what those coming after us will aspire to.

understand this: effort is something foreign to us these days. dreams of a civil war substitute the idea of salvation. quick and easy fix. just a week of blodsheed and all our problems are gone. free yourself from this naive thought and awake your inner ambition. the future of our race will depend on whether we will be able to provide our yet to be born fighters with everything they need. if we fail this mission, everything will be gone.
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>>128447932

Based.
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>>128444029
Western people only care about themselves.
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>>128446291

The bigger the Empire, the more disastrous the collapse. The attitude of moral superiority the U.S has is staggering, and even when an American will admit fault, their response is usually "but what you gonna do about it?" with a shit eating grin.

According to this site, which is pretty obscure and mysterious but we know it was started by Edwin Deagle who used to work at the Department of Defense, the U.S population by 2025 will 61,000,000.

http://www.deagel.com/country/United-States-of-America_c0001.aspx

Many European nations will be destroyed as well, by their estimation. Russia, India and China fare well, as do some South American nations. Luckily Israel seems to take a bad hit.

http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx?pag=2&sort=GDP&ord=DESC
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>>128448213

Some kind of hijack of a BBC or ITV news broadcast (like that guy in the Max Headroom mask did in the 80s) would reach millions of viewers. Lot of redpill potential there. Dunno how doable that is though. Presumably itd take some serious talent and effort to pull off.
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>>128448056
No. Won't happen
But strike action will
Funny. People will strike for a few dollars extra a week. They'll bring the country to a halt. They'll see thousands stuck in airports. They'll see old people freezing to death because they don't have electricity. They'll see thousands on the streets, unable to get to work because of bus or train strikes
But they can't get their act into gear and strike until politicians, lobbyists, kikes, parliament even the royal family give in
And if they don't, they know what will happen. Right, more strike action as the banks are losing their last pints of blood
You have the fucking tools
do you have the will?
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>>128448056
Start a halal meatshop.
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>>128447932
This.

But wouldn't want anyone to call me a 'nazi'. Better just lay down and take it.
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>>128444029
Kill them, kill them all.
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>>128447290
>In Canada you go to jail for not applauding the extermination of your race
I can't talk for the whole country, but here in Quebec, you get beaten up if you "applaud", as you say it.
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>>128444029
>fight back
Against what exactly? The perpetrators are dead.

The civilian Muslim community? Do you want to attack random innocent civilians for no good reason? These attacks pose a threat exactly because you don't know who is a peaceful Muslim and who is an enemy. Who is the silent supporter and who will be a violent actor.

The problem isn't with not fighting, the problem, if there is a problem is with the values of a country that wants to attract huge amount of immigrants from all around the world, without discriminating between humans based on their ethnic/cultural/religious background.

London doesn't have it any worse than Kabul, if you believe in civic nationalism you should stop complaining.
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>>128447881

The lobbyists ask. They ask politicians and officials. They ask them because the power of the government has expanded beyond what anyone thought it would.

The lobbyists are the shadow, the Government and its Jewish Zionist puppeteers are that which casts the shadow.
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>>128447984
matches with what i've been told, relatives and family friends telling stories about goings on from about the 70s onwards. my mum has said that rotherham used to be a 'nice' place (i.e. not a complete shithole) , but from about the mid-80s she used to feel uncomfortable walking around certain areas, started seeing groups of paki men who leered at her etc
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>>128448213
>your

no

yours is where it all stems from, sort out your own then our media will quickly follow suit. can't do that? then maybe you should stop telling us what to do.
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>>128444029
All of these oppressive new social norms can be overcome thru anger. By watching Alex Jones effectively. Problem is anger has become demonised by the feminists. Just become angry and as a man you notice they have no power over you anyway.
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>>128445573
how would you like it without 4chan, a US website?
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>>128445573
you sound like a fucking muslim GTFO
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>>128444029
>the people who are organised in the UK are edgy skinhead faggots who normal people stay 100 miles away from.
>by normal people I mean people like your mum and her friends.
This here's your problem. You're a pussy bitch who thinks he's better than the EDL.
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>>128448307
Of course they do, because (((they))) have been working non stop on destroying their ethnic identity, so now westerners can only identify through their monetary and virtue signal gains.

There values of ''family, religion, country'' are ALL dying. It's a self-centered fuckfest of vanity.
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>>128444029
Sharpeh!
The country has been cucked by the last Labour government and their obsession with political correctness. It's a hang up from the Blair and Brown years and it'll get a hell of a lot worse if Corbyn gets elected. Attitudes are changing slowly. You have right wing alternative media now and insergent parties like ukip driving the narrative. May will be forced to adopt something like what ukip have in mind for their 'integration agenda'. Just voice your opinion on the subject whenever you can and avoid voting for Lefty apologists. You think the oppressive air closing down free speech is bad now, it was far far worse under Labour
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>>128449205
if there is a violent threat that threatens your existence, then the being who is capable and willing to remove that violent threat is at an evolutionary advantage. The EDL are indeed superior to the average "man". Even if they inject themselves with drugs, wear retarded clothes and otherwise are pretty dumb people. But that is one huge advantage that may allow them to ride out this storm, while the "normal" people may die out.
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>>128448272
Excellent post.
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>>128448377
Thanks for the links, I've seen a bit about it before
The US is prime target of course, although Americans are still in denial
When the US goes down, nothing will ever be the same
Yes, subcontinent, Asia generally, Russia most likely, will pull through
But the US is soft in the middle and too complacent apart from fear mongering in /pol/ and other honey pots
We've seen how Russia became. The US will look at least as bad
Russia had a superb civilization the likes of which the US will never achieve, yet the USSR still looks worse than Beirut
The US will never recover and will most likely be broken up
Few of the other 95% of the world will cry. US has done too much damage and dragged worldwide progress backwards
Americans, the few who manage to get out, will become very quiet indeed, no more 'loud Americans'
Not that I dislike Americans. Many of them are sterling. Not even their fault at a personal level. The rot set in almost from the start unfortunately while Americans were taming the West, building, pioneering
And not as if many Americans don't know who fed them the (((poison chalice)))
Like most, the average American doesn't know what he/she can do about it. They're given the old two party voting game like most of the West

Trump claims the US will always support izrale
It might be time for Americans to start getting up on their hind legs and tossing the mindless distractions into the dust for they are far from immune to the problems confronting other parts of the world
Now if only American fathers didn't still believe it an honour to have a kid in the US Marines -- that would be a start in the right direction
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>>128449002
>Just become angry and as a man you notice they have no power over you anyway.

this can't be overstated enough, if you ever get confronted by a shrill feminist then all it takes is the slightest hint of anger and they will back down immediately. it must be something primal, every woman instinctually knows not to properly piss off a male who is twice the size and several times as strong as her. of course it doesn't work if you're a feeble beta male, but as a presumably nationalistic male browsing this board you should be lifting and doing plenty of physical activity anyway.
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>>128449158
I'm as far from being muslim as it's possible to get
Now stop fishing because I know who you are
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>>128448272
good post
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>>128448731
Nicely put
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>>128449830

You're not a Muslim, I believe you. Hating Israel and the USA and Jews is a normal part of ""Western"" ideology these days it's part of the reason we're so cucked.
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>>128444029
i think the single biggest issue is the lack of irl support networks. a lot of these issues would be much easier to tackle with a large group of friends who have your back. some anons on 4chins who call you a fag when you do field reports of your activity isn't really going to cut it for most people, it's very demoralizing to be on your own with your ideas.
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>>128448272
screencapped

I think we can all agree we need to find a woman and get breeding bros. Fuck looks, fuck everything. If you truly care about more than just your ephemeral pleasure ~70 years on this fucking planet, find the mother of your children and get to work.
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Why fight back? This is what Britain's want. Let them have it.
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>>128450101
it's one thing to hate them, it's another thing entirely to realise that they are responsible for what's happening. hating them does nothing, but the recognition is important as until the US is fixed, it doesn't matter what is done elsewhere. they lead the global economy and industry and are the primary influencers of western culture, any "fix" for the west starts and ends in the USA. they have a few decades to sort their shit out or they will fade into nothingness we will become either a globalist or a chinese planet.
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>>128449205
I am literally telling you how it is here.
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Also, you're a no-guns.
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>>128446845
The only hope is to turn this religious. Only times the brits have chimped out in the last 400 years is over religion. Granted it was proddys and catholics but it'd be the same with Christians and mudslimes. Protest these cunts but as Christians ... make them cuss the cross and then the real brits will roll up the sleeves
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>>128444974
>I'm speaking this for the general population, I'm as fed up of this shit as anyone here.

like overhere, still continue to vote for Tories/CDU, Labour/SPD etc.
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>>128445202
This. It's like how Americans don't dare to stand up to blacks. The culture simply won't allow it, no matter how egregious the crimes
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>>128450101
Thanks
Generally speaking I don't 'hate' Americans or anyone else for that matter
It's late here. I should know better than to post at all
Most of know already that they're running false flags past us faster than we can keep up. They have to do that to stop us from focusing on the real problem, i.e., our own politicians, who almost to a man allowed themselves to be compromised, knowing in advance they'd be blackmailed into obeying the globalist agenda

So the whore media, which any half decent bunch of politicians would dismantle, evermore to prohibit such ridiculous monopolization by the eternal jew, is leading us by the nose. And politicians' fear mongering, war mongering scripts plus the media deliberately set out to engage our emotions .. emotions of the basest nature: fear, survival, hate, blame

We're being played and we know it at the back of our minds
which is why I advocate non violent response such as strike action on massive scale. Politicians wouldn't survive it
We have the tools in our hands
We'll witness how effective those tools are if we use them
We can break the architects of this nonsense if we want to. No guns, no street fighting, just cold calculated breaking of the cabals by starving them of our money, energy and cooperation
It's that easy
All the police and military and the globalists' disposal would be powerless to control us if we simply quit playing ball
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>128444029
>"I don't want to lose my job/get sacked/removed from uni."
>"I live far too comfortably to risk my lifestyle to be ostracized by society for holding different opinions."
My British brother. you have to be willing to do what our ancestors did when we broke away from the crown.
You have to pledge to your country men and your country. What our founding fathers pledged.
“And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.”
Its a sacrifice.
That only the brave can pay.
The tree of Liberty has to be watered with the blood of both Patriots and Tyrants.
Our founders sacrificed a lot. And insured our freedom. For the time being.
Islam, is the ultimate blight on a free people.
It will not allow a free Brittan.
Only a Britain ruled under Sharia Law.
It must be fought against.
It must be resisted.
At all cost liberty must be defended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaQ6e5XeTFo
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>>128450294
You should realize that if you go down this path, you should be a "pioneer", meaning that if you truly want to change stuff, you should be willing to lead the charge. Follow the advice of the few on the internet who are already like that.

You can go pretty far, really far without aggravating anyone. Or getting into trouble, while also making yourself a "stealth" natsoc

>be /fit/, be athletic, run, lift weights, raise natty test
most people dont know it but this will literally change your nature, also make you smarter.
>acquire resources and skills that can be beneficial.
when you are fit, it becomes easier, because having high test also makes jobs easier, it makes dealing with people easier, it makes you more competative. Getting dosh, getting out of neetdom, and also avoiding drugs allows you to get a better economic foothold, and also allows you to perhaps have a place/home to make your own weaponry
>avoid shitskins and degenerates
now this is a trick to deal with, obviously words will make or break it. So this one is a really hard to acquire trick. You may not realize it but most people, as long as you are not overly racist, will accept you and your desire not to mingle with them. The SJW tumblerinas who will try to shame you for not shaking someones hand are virtually non existent out there. Just make friends with whites and the subtle hate of other races will flow along just nicely.

not sure if there are any other steps, but you could try to get involved with your local politics. But one can definately work hard to become better against the jew/negro and mudslime plague while under this totalitarian leftist regime.
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>>128446156
He's not LARPing, he's just Eastern European.

They do not have these problems.
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>>128450832
Excellent post
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If you need to give reasons to people to make them want to fight back or survive then the problem hasn't gotten big enough. Give the leftists what they want, open the borders completely. Let the problem fester until people are ready to deal with it.

When it comes to fighting an ideology there's no room for half measures. You have to go full on suppression and genocide. If the people don't have the will to carry it out any efforts to fight back will be in vain.
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To put it in perspective, there are only 8000 individuals we need to exterminate
8,000 who're destroying our lives and futures

Ferret them out and dispose of them one by one and you wouldn't even need to finish the job because the remainder would run for their lives and keep their heads down ever after

although I'm all for killing the full 8000 or locking them on a rocky island under permanent guard
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>>128444753
>says the american living in a 60% non-white country with a gun crime rate that makes Venezuela blush, sitting behind a computer screen telling people in another country to rise up and fight on some autist containment forum tangentially related to politics
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>>128451271
Wrooong. A single person cannot fight the system, don't listen to the Hollyjewed narrative. Only another system can fight a system. You'd only get chewed up by it and it will be a senseless sacrifice (the system will also make sure you're branded a horrible person and the lowest of low)

not saying you shouldn't get /fit/ or prepare the basics but going in alone is absolutely pointless. even whole countries who go against the grain are crushed like nothing
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>>128448254
>american TV is a whole new level, it truly is brain rot
This.
I still remember staying in a hotel in Germany, I decided to watch CNN.
There was a "debate" about economy. First guy say that "studies show that X is good". The lady answers that "studies show that X is bad".

And let's now even speak about their Presidential debates.
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>>128444029
You don't have to be violent (for now) just try and become Enoch Powell 2.0, start an immigration restrictionist nationalist (not nazi) party. Make sure to be NORMAL though.
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>>128451965
Yea thats the spirit there mr.tjew

How many heroic stories have we had from the past where rebellious people changed the whole narrative and flow of a nation. Many of them, from saints, to military leaders, to common men still. Many people remark see what is good if a person changes so drastically that the society he is in, is unable to deal with it.

All it takes is a desire. The society as a whole is weak and dumb. I know I did these things and I am going to do much worse. Who is going to stop me? I am employed. I am /fit/. I avoid shitskins and degenerates.

If the system crumbles then I will have better chances than most others who smoke and drink. If I am lucky I may serve as an inspiration to some still. Rejecting, and then purposely going against the flow of society feels really good. Because if you have any kind of insight into history, and into the overall psyche of a society you can easily see that they are all stepping into doom, so not going with them feels morally just.

and anyone can do it.
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>>128444029
The only way you'll see some meaningful change in mood is if some daftie muslims go off-script and carry out regular attacks against politicians, news organisations, or go door-to-door killing people in some of the fancier areas of London.
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>>128452678
...and schools of course. If they start attacking schools I think muslims would be wise to move out of the country (for a while at least).
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>>128447036
>austria
typical retarded amerifat
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>>128452488
to add to that: Good group quality, arises from a high individual quality. If you as an individual are shit, I wouldnt want you in my group in the first place.

You would just be a liability for a free ride on your part. Would add no value to it all.

and the best way to raise your quality is by being /fit/. Obesity/overweightness raises depression levels, lowers moods, is generally shitty. A sedentary life also contributes badly to the "sissy men" thing that most of you reading this text are.

Also, the ability to untangle the jew tendrils in your brain is fairly important, a high enough IQ and knowing the greek/roman philosophy methods is important in this whole thing.
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>>128452873
That's not how Islamic terrorism works. This isn't Troy and muslims aren't the myrmidons. You don't get people to fear you by cutting off the head.

You make them fear you and do nothing to oppose you by showing them they are ALL in danger. At any given time, at any given place.
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>>128452678
Or people posing as muslims
like when izralies dressed as Palestinians and started chucking rocks to get things rolling. They still do it today apparently

So it wouldn't need actual muslims to go off script as long as they were perceived to be muslims
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>>128452880
hospitals
aged care homes
buses carrying the handicapped
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>>128453379
Sorry Finnish bro.
Had to remove my post when I realized I was trying to apply logic to religion
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>>128453693
No worries, I believe my comment is still valid regardless.
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>>128448272
This is a good post.

What this means though is that we're going to have to spend a lot of time studying philosophy, economics, and history, ALL our histories - The History of the West.
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>>128444029
The solution is to get training,stay /fit/ get a family,join some shooting club or similar and keep on going,someone more desperate will light up the spark that will turn europe into flames.
Just get ready and know when to start claiming back your homeland,for me it isn't the moment,the sheeple are still sleeping,you can create false accounts for shitposting and thus further our cause and some IRL shitposting every now and then they had an NGO stand in the street called sos racism and it said something like have you ever experienced racism and prejudice because of your race ethnicity or beliefs and i went to tell them how muslim shitskins treat foreigners and how living in asia you get also racism and long etc and after that I simply farted my way out(i try to fart near leftist if I feel the need to in public and I'm close to one)
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>>128451841
So what i go and kill 8000 people at random and hope i got the rigth ones?
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>>128444029
It was the same here until Trump came along. You need a Trump.
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>>128455500
Trump= hindemburg...
We still need our uncle Adolf, all of us.
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>>128455668
Yeah but a more subtle approach will be required first.
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>>128455668
What we need is someone to do what Hitler did in the 30's, but not what he did in the 40's.
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>>128445202
Your do nothing politicians are slowly but assuredly drowning your nation.
They're the true enemy, and by their actions they're enabling the muslim scourge you run rampant.
The recent attacks; and the lack of any retributive response are only emboldening these towel headed faggots to do more, and more violently.
You're proper fucked until you make an example of your politicians.
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>>128453340
Ironically the sissiest board of all is right: start with the Greeks. Even great leaders centuries later studied these extensively.

Basically we need to bring back Mosley's concept of the "Man of Action," or "Thought-Deed Man" (Bowden called it the Clever Thug).

Basically Carlyle 101.
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>>128444029
The best way to fight against muslim invasion is:
>be successful
>get in shape
>learn how to defend yourself physically and verbally
>make friends with likeminded people
>have white children and instill your values onto them
>invest and support British (ethnic British) businesses, etc, boycott all Muslim owned businesses or businesses who are "refugees welcome"
>learn your own people's history
>be vocal about your opinions
>vote for people who will actually do something, not just who you think will win the election
>fly your national flag whenever possible, put bumper stickers on your car

Do this and there won't ever have to be a physical war, you can still beat them in the culture war if you just expose them for the vermin they are and make British culture preferable to the alternative
Sheep want to feel safe but they also want to be part of the "in-crowd". Make your own culture mainstream and the sheep will follow. Right now the only reason that so many people are falling into the trendy crowd is because its safe and comfortable. Run a similar campaign the left did to destroy Christianity and direct it towards Islam.
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>>128452488
Also anybody that understands history knows there are heroes but the heroes are spawned due to the necessitis of the time,prenapoleonic france needed a strong military leader like napoleon,had he been born 40 years ago he would have become a banker because he liked maths and there was no need for a general to do what he did,we are only a product of circumstances and if those circumstances come near you it is our duty to stand up and take the historical decision of becoming ourselves heroes.
Thus the most important thing is being ready.
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>>128444029
What are we going to fight back with? Fucking sticks and stones.
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>>128456616
Well my path may not be applicable to all. There are probably many among you who are different than me, non neets but bordering on it because you just suck. Rich parents, mediocre parents, many of these things.

So what is best for you is actually what you are suggesting. Study your ancestors from a time when they were strong. Your imperialists who conquered shit. Who brought the shitskins to their heels. Study them well. Their habits, their routines, (but also remember that their body composition was different back then, they were stronger and ate better too)

You can more or less take over their ideology and continue where they stopped in the age of decadence. As long as your platform (your body, and your brain, with enough testosterone) is capable of handling that lore.

because if you are weak, and you read about the internal monologue of these people. You will find the thoughts "scary" or "problematic" or "not nice enough". Little do you realize but once your body is healthy and is up to par with their bodies, the use, retention and even creation of those kinds of thoughts comes naturally.

my worldview does not even conflict with the britisch view, which is based in scientific evolutionary lore. It slides in very nicely with it all. So you should do pic related.
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>>128444029

“In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.”

- Mark Twain
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>>128444029
>the people who are organised in the UK are edgy skinhead faggots who normal people stay 100 miles away from.
It's been this way for a long time now (in the US too) and this is exactly how (((they))) want it, they've expended a lot of effort and resources into normalizing anyone who supports standing up for rights and liberty and unbalanced racist extremists/gun nuts/etc. There's a good chance no change ever WILL occur because society at large has been thoroughly programmed for generations to just accept it.
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>>128444029
>"I don't want to lose my job/get sacked/removed from uni."
This is the biggest problem in the UK and the west in general. Any attempt to fight back is punished harshly. I feel sorry for you guys. At least here we still have guns and 1a rights.
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>>128448272
Very well said. We will be the elder gentlemen who will support the young men. The days of meaningless degeneracy and cultural nihilism will end within our lifetime.

Aquire theoretical knowledge, practical skills, fortune, and influence, as much as you can.
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>>128444029
>here are some issues

Bullshit.

The government wanted to put migrant shits in my town. I organized one of the biggest protests in Bulgaria by myself and stopped it. I gave my own money, made, printed and put up posters across my town, I covered 500 miles in 4 days, paid for the fuel myself, talked to people everywhere, took leave from work for a week, hired an audio crew for the event..... we had 1/3 of the town show up. The government representative and the mayor got scared as fuck, rhousands of people with flags singing patriotic songs. The migrant camp was cancelled and never brought up again. I did that, alone.

So don't tell me there's nothing you can do. Fuck off.
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>>128458939
well done anon. Have a bump.
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>>128444029
Look at your people's weaknesses. I saw some anglos in this bar and their women were real fucking slutty and men seemed like they would get triggered hard if anything politically incorrect was mentioned and they weren't even that low T.

Grow some balls and practice hate speech/troll people IRL as best as you can.
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>>128458939
That's boss.
You are a true Patriot.
The Old Gods of your people smile at you.
You are a freedom lover.
And I name you an honorary American.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKM1AAzeRCg
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This thread reminds me of a "Great Men" reading list I was putting together, where I made a list of what was mentioned as important reading BY great men, rather than reading about them specifically. Strangely Plato appears far less than Aristotle, and Shakespeare appears a whole lot. They also they speak highly of Plutarch and Herodotus continually.
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>>128444029
I and so many other people want to help, but there's nothing at all to do. To start, we're 100 miles away from where this is happening, but there's absolutely no organisation to it.
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>>128462964
"Helping" doesn't always have to mean fighting. Paine arguably did more for American independence than all the armies and guns put together.
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>>128463227
Well, there's thousands of people in the villages and towns in and around the North East that would be more than willing to help in any form, but there's nothing going.
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>>128444029
Look at what's happened to Tommy Robinson. The establishment will fuck you over for even trying. They can sort it out themselves when one of their own is killed
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>>128463561
Tommy is a prime of example of what needs to be done. The only reason he's alive is because of the organisation he had with the boys in and around Luton that weren't Muslim.
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>>128445756
You're a worthless coward, you don't deserve freedom
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>>128444029
>>there are no good organisations to combat the government over this.
>combat the government

and this it the main reason, you are against your own government that betrayed your nation
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