What's the redpill on the Eastern Bloc? They were (((communist)))

>>128410488
>Yugoslavia
>Eastern Bloc

pick one

communism was imposed on us by force by the (((russian))) and ruined us, its common sense we hate it with passion

I don't know how it is possible but somehow we managed to defend traditional values and still be a bunch of degenerates

>>128410488
there's a lot of crap going on here too
i bet that you wouldn't survive a month in my country with average salary
but we must, because we have to live in an absolute monarchy of a stupid socialist redneck

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>>128411520
This

>>128410488
idk who cares about those third world shit holes

Western countries were communist all along too, but in a different way. We were subjected to old marxism based on terror and fear, while you were subjected to cultural marxism based on pleasures and relativism.

>>128412228
Don't worry germany, we won't accept german refugees either in 10 years when you and your moron family will try to flee your civil war.

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>>128410488
>today fiercely nationalist
Only those that lived under communism, the newer ones are american tier liberal faggots.

They are and always will be commies to me

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>>128410488
It always comes down to this.

>>128413106
lol dream on kiddo

>>128411520
Can confirm that.

>>128413195
>italy more based than poland, assuming my burger isn't showing
>swiss at 28%
>notbad.jpg
>azerbaijan: 5%
>Woh-OOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAHHHH.jpg

>>128413195
Croatia 71%? no fucking way

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i think its largely because they found a way where they can eat there potato's and bread without working too hard and new shitty ideas seem like they can be bad for them. and most lefties are communist and a lot of people knew how shit it was because they 1st/2nd hand experienced it

>>128410488
You answered your own question. We're the ones who experienced communism, we know what it's like. You have no idea, some your people still think it's a cool idea to entertain

>>128410488
What the fuck is with the flag of the my country?

>>128410488
The biggest redpill on communism is surviving communism.
Also having tough life makes people more right wing. There's already some decadence among the middle class which has easy life.

>>128418866
Oh, that's a map from the soviet time, I get it.

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>>128413688
You keep saying that Hans but your country is rotting from the inside out.

>>128410488
Kek. Implying we are not communist country.

>>128419561
>atheists
>drunkards
>czech streets immorality
You're a globalists wet dream

>>128419296
are you the town rapist?

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>>128410488
Fierce territorialism springs out of jealousy about food. It'll change once they get more prosperous.

>>128419941
How long ago did that story come out ? Good times.

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>>128410488
>They were (((communist))) countries

Imagine russian variant of republican.
It's soviet USSR communist. Conservative as fuck (though since Stalin death gradually softening)

Though it's funny to see Poles etc. bitching about gommunism, because it was usually USSR throwing money at them, not vice versa, kek.

>Meanwhile the countries that resisted (((communism))) during the Cold War have today become cesspools of degeneracy and decadence.

See pic related. They were cesspools of decadence and degeneracy BECAUSE they resisted communism. And everything communism is.

>Is this just an example of pendulum swings, or were the Eastern Europeans on to something?

Communists were very tolerant on the whole nationalism shit, as far as you don't sperg up against party and even then it depends.
Hell, they even didn't prosecute the ones that sided with Hitler much, as long as the individual was not, figuratively speaking, covered in the blood of innocents.

The biggest redpill, though, I think, it should be for russians. I sincerely hope Russia won't make another mistake of dishing out money on the useless limitrophes.

>>128410488
Lol it's just the crypto jews taking a new angle on the goys from the west, the actual worrying thing is that Russia most likely has its old commie jews pursuing communism in the face on muh kebab removing

>>128420462
>in the face on muh kebab removing

Nah, it's that they are still strugling to achieve Soviet era standards of living, production and scientific research.

Which, imho, won't happen in any nearest time, if Putin doesn't go full Stalin and just shoot half of the government clerks and officials and all of the oligarchs.

>>128419931
Still better atheist than traitorous catholics trying invade my country several times and got kicked in their ass. There is only one reason why are we atheists and it's not communism, it's because catholics like you. Drunkards? We drink mainly beer not some vodka but I know southerners like you cannot drink even beer. When I visited your country 12 years ago you were more globalised than we are now. In fact, last years we are criticized because of our nationalism, of course we are not same level like poles unfortunately.

>>128410488
We are fiercely nationalistic BECAUSE we had to resist and deal with communism you fucking retard.

>>128420819
Lol considering Russia's economy that's more than wishful thinking

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>>128420368
>Though it's funny to see Poles etc. bitching about gommunism, because it was usually USSR throwing money at them, not vice versa, kek.

Because Poland, compared to Russia, was economically higher. Implementation of communism didnt help, so Russia had to funnel dosh to help keep Poland on the leash. The more you went west from Russia, the more Russia had to spend money there, because they were closer to the west and were able to escape more easily, plus were able to see how the west were doing.

>Communists were very tolerant on the whole nationalism shit, as far as you don't sperg up against party and even then it depends.
Hell, they even didn't prosecute the ones that sided with Hitler much, as long as the individual was not, figuratively speaking, covered in the blood of innocents.

top kek, nice vatnik bullshit

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>>128420313
Yeah, wasn't bad....

>>128410488
you simply do not understand what communism means because of the american propaganda machine.

>>128421214

>nice vatnik bullshit

Yeah, that's why there was so many nationalists and (((surviving))) forest brothers and other Waffen-SS soldiers in Warsaw pact countries.

Mate, if NKVD really would want to exterminate you, they would've put whole your nation in the traincarts and move you to Siberia or some other shithole, like they did to Chechens.

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>>128421576
>>Yeah, that's why there was so many nationalists and (((surviving))) forest brothers and other Waffen-SS soldiers in Warsaw pact countries.

>Mate, if NKVD really would want to exterminate you, they would've put whole your nation in the traincarts and move you to Siberia or some other shithole, like they did to Chechens.

>>128421352
communism was utter garbage
>>128420368
>See pic related. They were cesspools of decadence and degeneracy BECAUSE they resisted communism. And everything communism is.
Kill yourself, the picture on the left looks 10 times better.

Fuck that black and white boring society on the right.

>Communists were very tolerant on the whole nationalism shit
Communism itself isn't though. USSR didn't follow marx perfectly.

>>128415439
>>128413195
Its true, skip to 1:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9QwYwS8gI4

>>128421753
I've been to Vilnius - it was a pretty awesum town

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>>128413195
>Georgia

Because Soviet style communism was socially conservative and nationalistic.

>>128421214
You're actually wrong. Poland was literally poorer than USSR per capita.
Communism is shit but this narrative of yours how you were in your golden period before commies is pretty much bullshit m8, you were poor as fuck and so were we.

>>128419337
which is probably why we still get shit tons of beggars from your country

>>128422563
>Soviet style communism was socially conservative

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Fuck Russia let it alone.

It's called Intermarium.

>>128423015
>beggers go for countries were people are weaker and have more money they can throw away
Makes you think

>>128413195
Not true, not true at all, we do not persecute gays, nobody will arrest you for being gay.

Do not believe western media lies

>>128411361
Calm down Titto

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Western Euros were all comfy while we had to fight for our freedom, now we are comfy and while Western Euros slowly, very slowly realize that they need to do something.

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>>128420368
This

https://youtu.be/tec1B2VMVUU

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>>128410488
It goes far deeper into history than communsim.
>often conquered or under constant threat of conquerors
>society above individual (collectivism) mentality is developed
>stability, paternalist hierarchical values and stuff like that are the norm

History made us like this, same way you burgers are fetishizing the individuality to the extreme. Due to the utter lack of immediate strong enemies (Canada? Mexico?) and 2 oceans you are protected and could devote yourself to some lofty ideals like liberal democracy, human rights, etc..

If you ever survived something as Tatar Yoke, big hunger or giant civil war of 20 years you would end up far more collectivist/community oriented as well.

>>128423461
>weaker
more like, if I were to give a euro or two it wouldn't make a difference for me but the gypsy who got it would be the richest man in your country

>They were (((communist))) countries but they are today fiercely nationalist

They weren't communists. Simply Soviet Union annexed us, or manipulated elections, turning our countries into dictatorship. Our people were always nationalist, and tried to gain independence. (1956, Hungary) Just the western countries were too cuck to help us.

>>128413195
why is Italy so low?
>LGBTI
oh, that's still too high.

>>128420845
when did croatia try to invade czechia?

>>128410488
>They were (((communist))) countries but they are today fiercely nationalist, defending traditional values in ways the west doesn't even dare to.
>defending traditional values in ways the west doesn't even dare to.
That's where you're wrong. Your degeneracy is creeping in on us.

>>128416472
>most leftists are communist

>>128424144
When is this from? People here are way more individualistic than 10 or 20 years ago

>>128410488
Yugoslavia wasn't in the Eastern Bloc for more than a few post-war years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement

The thing is that as other said Eastern Europe was the intersection of Europe, Asia and the Middle East.
The entire zone was fucked over by everyone.

Communism was just the latest in a long list of fuckery. But it was the worst because it happened after WW2.
A lot of people forget to mention that besides the destruction communism did, the countries were also devastated by WW2 but unlike the rest of Europe they weren't allowed to receive the shitton of money the US gave to help recover.

>>128420845
Pitiful retort, you should just kill yourself, soulless man without a name.

>>128425989

It's from here

https://geert-hofstede.com/national-culture.html
https://geert-hofstede.com/countries.html

There's other factors to take in mind to get a clear picture - like attitude toward power distance and indulgence.

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>>128410488

Holy Catholic Church is faith of our fathers, that's why - see: Popieluszko

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Popiełuszko

>>128423446

This

>>128410488
Meme. they are a bit more to the right, but are also so poor noone wants to go there for gibs. Also still in EU once the west is in the bag, Islam will sebd legal colonists there

>>128413195
>26%
I mean... it's better than anywhere west of us other than italy... right? (damn, that's a really qualified statement)

>>128429702
Polska confirmed gay

>>128413688
Oblivious as ever.

(((Capitalism))) only exists to prop up the Jew. There is a reason why the Jews are able to control the world is because they have the money to control capitalism.

http://www.ilga-europe.org/sites/default/files/Attachments/rainbow_europe_map_2017.pdf
Actual map of lgbt tolerance in Europe.

>>128413195
>croatia
hows europe feeling

>>128413195
>>128430684
>2015: sweden at 72%
>2017: sweden at 60%

CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>128410488
yugoslavia was not part of the eastern bloc you retard

>>128410488
I want neo-communism.

>>128420845
next tier bait
based

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>>128430739
totally
>>128415439
>>128413195

>>128431524
well it was until 1948, and relations were not completely severed until 1955

its because back then gommunists weren't a bunch of faggot degenerates but hard working, strong men opposed to them.

>>128432454
janez you don't know shit about history. sad!

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>>128410488
Anon, we did resist Communism, but we got rekt and the West was all too happy to leave us for the Russkies to appease them.

>>128413195
>71%

Mi Švedska sad :DDDD

Just because there were no successful commie revolutions in the West, doesn't mean that the West wasn't still infiltrated subconsciously with Marxist propaganda during the Cold War.

>>128410488
You don't understand what life under communist government was actually like.

It didn't have much in common with what modern Western "left" preaches.

>>128421909
wow, you are really talking like someone who knows what he's talking about

>>128430462
Thanks antifa, how can I join the movement?

>>128410488
>What's the redpill on the Eastern Bloc?
We've lived through Soviet Unions and some Empires before it (Third Reich, Holy Roman Empire, some Hungry Austria Empire n' shit) so we smell from a mile away when dicatorship comes. That's why Easterns are chimping out, they have an actual experience with shit like EU from hundreds if not thousands years of history, Westerners don't and they're going to get cucked, it's something new for them, they don't know how to react properly and are far more easily manipulated by media and goverment because while goverment was against it's own people in Eastern bloc in past, it always sucked dicks of their citizens in Western, and now they set their eyes upon larger prey to hunt together with Jews.

>>128410488
because (((communism)) and cultural genocide was obvious and clear , while in the west it was hidden and done under guise of social democracy