>Capitalism fails in every country it is ever tried in >"But

low quality bait

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Capitalism has the flexibility to adjust into its problems, particularly in nations that have mixed economics. I don`t see how a central planning committee would be more efficient in relation to fairly flexible capital that can be insensitived in larger scale to fit the needs of the state and by extension the people.

>>128382042
Poverty existed in the USSR but it was different than the Anerican media says.

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>>128382042
>End famine
Re

>>128382042
>Capitalism fails in every country it is ever tried in
>"But lets do it again!"

Wow, can't even snark w/o taking something from capitalists, or at the very least anti-comms.

>>128382042
/leftypol/, this raid is lacking. Seriously.

>>128383194
Holodomor occured when Soviets tried to collectivize farms to end famine forever in the soviet union, and it worked. 3 million kids die of malnutrition every year today just as a matter of course. Hunger could be eradicated globally in less than a decade, but no one will do it, because there is no money in it.

everything fails everywhere, retard. that's how this reality works.

>>128382042
That list is so false that it hardly deserves any conjecture. Do you have any idea how sexist the Bolshevik party was?!

>>128382042

I'd argue that modern Russia represents true capitalism, it's just unbridled kleptocracy, graft, poverty.

But the USA is a mixed economy. It's socialist. Leftists don't seem to comprehend how much regulation and taxing the government does. There are many who argue AIACC (America is a communist country).

>>128385065
Are you pretending to be retarded?

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>end famine

>>128382042
"If everyone is poor no one is poor"

>>128382042
>Capitalism fails in every country it is ever tried in
>The greatest countries in the world with the best healthcare, lowest infant morality real, highest standard of living, longest life expectancy, etc are capitalist

What is your metric for "failure?" Better yet, what is your metric for "success," 'Most Killed Through Starvation and Purges?'

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>>128387360
inb4 butthurt capitalists

>>128382042

Also, the list up there is preposterous. The soviets were totally racist and sexist and your ethnicity was printed on your ID card.

Also, the glue that held society together was the secret police and most people lived in fear they'd be hauled off in the middle of the night for no reason.

After destroying god and capitalism and history the average Russian believed in nothing and when the nihilism got too big nobody cared enough to keep the system together. Listen to soviet punk. It's all about planning your suicide and how life is shit.

>>128387648
>all those third world countries

capitalism doesn't make gold out of a turd, bud

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/lit/ told me that this book is propaganda and that most of it was based on stories that were exaggerated

Kinda reminds me of what you guys say about accounts of the concetration camps....

>>128382042
can someone tldr what is bait?
basically low quality thread to provoke replies and drown important threads?

sage

>>128382042
You're sad if you believe that, OP.

>>128387927
>/lit/ told me
A. I. Solzhenitsyn is a Nobel Prize Laureate because of that book. Go fuck yourself and suck a liberal dick from a tranny.

If by ''switch to capitalism'' you mean ''hear statistics not from the propaganda department'', that's 100% true.

>>128387628
>What's your metric for failure or success.
Oh god, I would never define something like that. If I did stuff like that I could be proven wrong. No I'm just going to make this same thread and posts everyday and not answer that question. How does that sound?

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>both ends of the spectrum "aren't real X"
>try each one
>one ends in starvation and gulags
>the other ends in iphones, nanotech, and the poorest people having so much food that they eat themselves to death

not much of a choice there comrade

DEBBIE WASSERMAN KILLED MIAMI DISTRICT ATTOURNEY

HILLARY HAD SETH RICH TAKEN OUT BY SEUI THUGS

SHILLS TAKEN OUT BY POL

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>>128387648
10 most recent "Cappies"
>Ethiopia
>Bangladesh
>Uganda
>Ethiopia
>Somalia
>Sudan
>Ethoipia
>Congo
>Niger
>Somalia
Oh yes goy, it's all capitalisms fault!! There is literally no other explanation as to why these glorious countries could fail!! U R 2 SMRT 4 crapitalizm!

Racists and Nazis and Capitalism BTFO

>capitalism fails

huh? I haven't noticed and I'm not 1% either.

>>128387927
tbf, His wife also says it's largely a collection of folk stories and exaggerations, not that anyone should dispute the legacy of Stalin. Solzhenitsyn was a couragous witness and victim of soviet monstrosity, although he is also a biased and often antisemitic historian.
Here's a response you should read
https://www.marxists.org/archive/mandel/1974/05/solzhenitsyn-gulag.html

>>128382042
you left out a LOT of murder

like


a LOT

>>128382161
fpbp, move to leafland and rake yourself, OP.

>>128385065
>7 million die of famine
>it worked!

>>128382447
Capitalism with free markets

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>the holocaust is an elaborate hoax from (((them))) meant to demonized nazis
>but those stories about the evil gommies from those same people are totally true
really makes me think

>>128388080
He won the Nobel prize for another book my man

>>128388651
Russia has always had famines. it only stopped having them when the Bolsheviks straightened things out. There were tragedies and disasters, that has been the case in every revolution in history.

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>>128382042
0/10

>>128383415
>doesn't get the joke

>"capitalism always fails!"
>said the poor man

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>>128382042
>commies dont realize they've been laughing stocks for years
>literally failing the easiest autismo test
lol

>>128382042
The homeless and unemployed were sent to the Gulag.You cant have hunger when all the hungry starved to death. You can't have poverty when everyone is poor.

>>128388651
If they're all dead, they won't be hungry anymore. Checkmate Capitalist swine

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>>128388987
> it only stopped having them when the Bolsheviks straightened things out.
or when the commies started killing all the poor lol

>>128388987
>""confiscate"" food from farmers
>send farmers to gulags
>no one left to farm food
>millions die
Bolsheviks straightened them out!

>>128382042
>be Soviet Union
>economy is shot, weaker then both France and UK
>have inconsistent econokic growth
>years of famine, kill about 20 to 30million in Stalin's regime alone
>have 0 homelessness and 0 unemployment except everyone lives like garbage
>China switches to more capitalist policies and surpasses you
>Try to do the same
>Collapse
>Centuries later some useful idiot parrots your ideology despite it failing on a constant daily basis all around the world

>>128382042

> capitalism brings billions out of poverty
> somehow a failure

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>>128382042
>>128387648

>tfw no non-wartime famines in WHITE capitalism for over a century
>tfw ONLY communism is retarded enough to make white people starve

kys

nice non arguments leftypol

>>128382042
>killed the Tsar
>Killed my ancestors
>persecuted my church
>Killed millions of Slavic people

Read 200 years together by Alexander Solzhenitsyn

>>128389906
>collectivize farms from shitty landlords
>petty landlords decide to burn their crops and kill their livestock out of spite
>rightfully get killed and gulag'd
>along with kulak sabotage, Ukraine has a bad harvest on top of it
>millions die
>but the Kulak enemy is eradicated, and the Soviet Union ends peacetime hunger for the rest of its existence.

>>128390155
Top kek, gommunists on suicide watch

>>128390155
1921 and also 1947 were caused by war
>all those white countries, including Russia having famine constantly more than a century ago.
Notice no famine in Postwar europe? newsflash: The Russian Empire was living in Pre-20th century levels of development at that time. Russians had a shorter lifespan than the Chinese before 1914. no wonder they had a hard time.

>>128388987
>kill so many people through an engineered famine those that are left have plenty of food to go around so it was a success!

Hello Comrades! Here is a list of the glorious accomplishments of the USSR, for any reactionaries and capitalist pig dogs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decossackization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dekulakization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_transfer_in_the_Soviet_Union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_repression_in_the_Soviet_Union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_Soviet_Union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressed_research_in_the_Soviet_Union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Hanging_Order

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD_prisoner_massacres

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_operations_of_the_NKVD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_graves_from_Soviet_mass_executions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_battalions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_deportations_from_Estonia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_deportations_from_Lithuania

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_settlements_in_the_Soviet_Union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_liberation_of_Poland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Przyszowice_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemmersdorf_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmyk_deportations_of_1943

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist_repressions_in_Mongolia

>>128382042
Autism

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>>128382042
>most doctors per capita
So fake that CNN might endorse it

>eliminate poverty
You make everyone poor, no one thinks they are poor!

>double life expectancy
You must have not included the gulag kills then

>end famine
>have higher calorie consumption than USA
You must be the most autistic cuck in the entire country. Try a cup of bleach once in a while.It would help your country.

>>128383115
Kek

>>128382042
What the fuck? The USSR had a much lower living standard than all of the capitalist west.

Russia is now better off than it was under any point during the USSR.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/shleifer/files/normal_countries_draft_sept_12_annotated.pdf

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>>128391200
>Still leaves '32-'33
>the others were "caused by war"
>no famine until 2 years after the end of war
The ones I sectioned off were DURING war m8, guess in commie-logic famines skip a year or two.

>he hasn't read the gulag archipelago
>he still thinks communism works

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>>128388080
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>>128393009
>unironically believing in the evil stalin and muh gulags myth
>b-but the holocaust wasnt reals those are jewish lies

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>>128382042

>>128393451
>ton of evidence, well documented
>compared to something that has had holes in it from the get go

>>128382042
>Capitalism fails in every country it is ever tried in
The Communist definition of 'failure' apparently being
>Results in historic economic growth, rise in living standards, unprecedented scientific and technological development and sees Communist/Socialist countries having to enact murderous border controls to keep their citizens/slaves from running to Capitalist countries.

>>128392789
>doesn't do any research at all
>thinks he has a valid understanding of 3 famines.
The 1947 famine began in 1946, and the Russian civil war lasted from 1917 to 1922, and the effects of territory loss from Brest-Litovsk were still in effect. Yes Famines can occur after the end of war, because food is planted at one time of the year, harvested at another, and eaten all the time. why don't you do some cursory reading about the '47 famine, and after you block out half of what you read from confirmation bias and come back, then we can talk.

>>128382042
>Modern Capitalist Society
>There are three class tiers
>True poverty is scarce and often aggregated by drug abuse

>Full Socialist/Communist Society
>There are three class tiers
>The high government officials, who live in luxury no matter what
>The police class, who regulates the people, ensuring they work and tread on them if they fall out of line, both in work and in ethic
>The worker class, almost universally poor and downtrodden. Because no matter how hard or well you work, you return to your identical home, with little luxury or comfort.
>When famine strikes, only the worker class will feel the effects, But ALL worker class will feel the effect because of the edict of equality.

Communism doesn't work because human beings are greedy. Absolute power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. In effect, a communist state will probably need to revolt every generation or so, because their leaders will go corrupt and use hidden tactics to favor them self instead of following the edict of equality. Peace will only be fleeting. And a smart communist leader will ensure their population can never revolt by taking their ability away, by controlling thought, and banning tools of revolution.

Capitalism works, because it rewards greed and hard work. Instead of busting your arse and getting nowhere, you can build a home, fill it with food an luxury. Have a family, and if you're lucky, you can make it all the way from the bottom to the top. You can't do that as a communist, you are always and forever an 'equal'.

Until ALL scarcity has been eliminated, Communism wont work. Its a system that can't deal with harsh times, and punishes EVERYONE when something goes wrong.

>>128382447
Why even bother engaging the OP?

As he sits there in uis air conditioned room with his 40 in deep dish and 50 wings. Witting in his lazy boy, watchinghis favorite tv show on Netflix, posting his bullshit via the ooen and unregulated internet on a freedom oriented website.

But yes, capitalism has proven to be a failure.
Because all the other countries using a different midel are all much much better then the west. They are titally not impoverished, censored, shit holes

Right op?

>>128388906
>but those stories about the evil gommies from those same people are totally true
Are you retarded? Jews advocate for Socialism and Communism everywhere but Israel. Really makes you think.

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>>128382042
seriously is this the best you have LOL

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>>128394224
>>True poverty is scarce and often aggregated by drug abuse
Since literally nobody starves in the USA unless by choice, the US government doesn't even measure starvation. Their metric is the variety of food people eat.

>>128382042
OP is in a reality distortion bubble.

>>128382042
Um, I know it's a shitty metric, but we do have quite a few aircraft carriers.

And if capitalism is so bad, why are there so many people trying to get into this country, legally or illegally?

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>>128394126
>spending this much time to justify your numerous famines
Your original pic got BLOWN THE FUCK OUT, now you're clearly grasping. Let me save you the time retard, I absolve you of the '21-'25 & '47 famines. Now, please explain how the '32-'33 famine happened.
>inb4 NAWT REAL GOMMUNISM

Also please explain how "butthurt cappys" are worse when we haven't had a peacetime famine in a White country since.....1906 in Spain.

>>128382042
Keep trying commie scum

>>128390651
>"rightfully"
i wish you got fucking gulag'ed

>>128382042
>GDP instantly halves
>this has nothing to do with the retarded way the economy was structured over the last 50-70 years, which made it impossible to reform

Era of stagnation, google it retard

>>128382042
Do something about it, but wait you can't because your too busy eating mcdonalds. Fat fuck