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Apostolic Christianity General IT'S PENTECOST NOW. HAVE

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Apostolic Christianity General
IT'S PENTECOST NOW. HAVE A BLESSED DAY.

>This general is for Christian denominations who derive their authority from God through apostolic authority. This would mean Catholic, Orthodox, and Oriental Christianity.

Everyone is welcome for discussion, community, pursuit of virtue, and the pursuit of truth. Be kind to one another, and above all assist one another in living the virtuous life.
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First of its kind so we'll see how such a general does.

Community links, such as recommended media, are now below in pastebin links. Remember to recommend things to add to the lists!

CATHOLIC
>Catholic Encyclopedia
http://www.newadvent.org/
>Directory for Finding a Latin Mass (U.K)
https://lms.org.uk/mass-listings
>Directory for Finding a Latin Mass (U.S/Can)
http://www.ecclesiadei.org/masses.cfm
>Laudate App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aycka.apps.MassReadings&hl=en
>Catholic Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/u/wolfshiem

ORTHODOX
>Orthodox Community Wiki
https://orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page
>Directory for Finding Mass
http://assemblyofbishops.org/directories/parishes
>Daily Readings App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.goarch.dailyreadings&hl=en
>Orthodox Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/bN1ujq2x

VARIOUS
>Recommended Movies
http://pastebin.com/xAL9w4fk
>Recommended Books
http://pastebin.com/K8DUUPdC
>Recommended Music
http://pastebin.com/dgqjiSgs
>Beauty of Creation
http://pastebin.com/VKGZEvXK
>Tales of Love and Virtue
http://pastebin.com/Qt3RUsXA
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>>128381711
more like apostate christianity
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>>128381711
Hey Wolf. How do you feel about our President visiting the Vatican?
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>>128382454
Shitposting aside, I do appreciate the bump.
There's hardly any room to defend Luther nowadays, as I see it.
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>Christians
>support the bombing of the forces that are defending the christians in the Middle East

Daily reminder that if you consider yourself christian, you should support Assad and the Syrian Army
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>apostolic

nah ill take non apostolic for 800
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Vatican is biggest kikery ever. Gtfo with this shit.

You want to be a Christian, read the words of CHRIST and practice them
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REMINDER - THIS IS A SPONSORED THREAD:


(Mossad), the paid Catholic shills, and the Paid Russian Orthodoxy shills push this... All of these groups = the Alt-Right meme.


The "elite" is code for Jews and their blackmailed sociopath pedophiles (Hillary's mom was a Jew). Because Jews run a child sex slave ring out of Ukraine/Israel and sometimes South America (see Hatti and Clintons) and use pedophiles as their boot-licking goy politicians/celebrities.

They use the symbolism of the occult because it's a marketing campaign to cover up for Zionist and Jewish Communist crimes/power moves. The occult became degenerate as fuck ever since Thelma (Alestor Crowley), Anton (((Levy))) of Hollywood Satanism, and Navy Intelligence groups took over the scene; although it was always a place for scam artists. Freemasons became corrupted after being bought out by Jews in the mid-1800s -- thanks to Napoleon emancipating the Jews and the Rothschild take over Britain with the fall of Napoleon (See Rothschild's run on the stocks after Battle of Waterloo)

Catholics and Russians are both pro-Communism and therefor cover for them too by telling you it's "Satanists" and not Jewish Communists and their Zionist mafia allies. This is something the John Birch Society did when re-inventing the "Illuminati" meme (see Alex Jones connection).

Moloch = word meaning KING (Assyrian)

Moloch propaganda = Jewish hate of enemy king, like they do to Assad

's'atan = Aramaic word meaning "adversary", any adversary, or many adversaries.

Satan the character = Catholic meme to demonize our ancestral gods and dumb down Bible references for stupid plebeian audiences.

Synagogue of Satan = Pro-Roman Jews. Jesus was a Zealot.

Lucifer = Morning Star
Jesus = Morning Star
Luciferians = Christian monks who pissed off the Pope

Judaism = pre-Christianity

Marxism/Communism = Post Christianity Judaism

Cultural Marxism = critical theory, aka strategy to demoralize the Jew's enemies.
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i like to help the less fortunate for pentecost. have a blessed one all
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vatican ii is the absolute proof that the catholic church has been subverted by jews and cannot be trusted
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>>128382639
I actually don't know how it went. I have been very busy. What happened overall?

>>128382792

And this is where you fuck up.
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>>128382069
>find my local church walking distance from my home that has two Latin Masses a month
>in a town that has a commuter ferry to Seattle and Gomorrah
HOW
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>>128382903
Whoops, the post>>128383376 was meant to have text.

The words of Christ were assembled and written authoritatively by the same authority in which the apostles did other actions. There's no reason for you to pick and choose when to listen and not to listen to the ones given authority to teach by God.
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>>128383347
>What happened overall?

Pretty boring. Francis looked miserable. Don was smug.

Whole thing lasted like 20 minutes.
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>>128381711
G'day Wolfie! Good to see you again making a Sunday general.

Off the big ass shifts again?
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You prayed your rosary tonight, right anon?

https://youtu.be/dwVdYXyxln0
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>>128381711
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>>128383088
That's fantastic, m8. What do you end up doing usually? Where do you even find the place to help?
>>128382941

>Catholics... are pro-Communism

lolno. They have spoken thoroughly against it explicitly. They deny Marxism ideologically and the church has stood against the idea of Class Struggle for centuries and instead upheld the opposite view - Class Collaboration.

>Satan the character = Catholic meme to demonize our ancestral gods and dumb down Bible references for stupid plebeian audiences.

There's no basis to say this at all. Later texts clearly speak of an identifiable character.

>>128383113
I don't find that the picture you posted defends such a claim.
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>>128384442
Francis is literally a Saracen-washing Communist. That's put me off Mass for years.
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>apostolic
nani sore
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>>128384442
you can deny the truth all you want
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>>128383998
Yes, sister.
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>>128383761
Really now? That's horrendous. This should be a big thing but it seems to be treated like a shallow display of importance. Unless there was a massive inability for communication. I can't imagine. Either way, that's thoroughly disappointing.
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>>128383113
Only go to my local SSPX church. Keep the Novus Ordo out. 62 Roman Missal and 1917 canon only.
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>>128384646
>Le meme pic
How does that prove we're communist?
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>>128384749
Francis did not smile much or at all. Trump was overheard on hot mic saying "I won't forget what you told me".
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>>128385040
>I don't know how to read IDs
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>>128384749
The highlight of the Vatican stop was Melania publicly embracing Catholicism and this photo.
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If possible could the people in this thread please pray for me. I'm coming up to 6 months of no fap, but I've had extreme temptation over these last 5 or so days. And I'm worried that once the 6 month milestone is reached that I'm going to give in and sin. Please pray for me to keep my determination in serving the Lord by not caving into sin.

>>128384749
On the bright side of the visit. Trump's wife was wearing a veil like nice devout women should. She also asked our Pope to bless her rosary beads. Her and Pope Francis got along very well.
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>apostolic christians
>saved
>not larpers
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>>128383922
Thanks, man.
I actually lost the job doing the twelve hour shifts. It was rough stuff. I'm in a much more stable job now and having more time to focus on my projects on my end and also generals here. I feel I missed a big chance not making Catholic Generals during the height of /pol/'s popularity but I'm working to amend that now.

How have you been doing, man?
And thank you so much for gathering this collage. I have gotten comments like this that have always my heart. Especially on /christian/.


>>128384575
>>128384646


Francis has explicitly spoken against Marxism.
The issue is that he's very quiet about his disagreements.

>That's put me off Mass for years.

How do you justify that at all? The grace administered during the sacraments and the authority of the doctrinal teaching does not come from the moral excellence of man nor leadership on Earth generally, but from God.


>>128385340
That's great.
Did she become Catholic before or after she decided to be a nude model? Either way, she looks like an estimable figure now.
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>>128385956
>that have always my heart.
"Warmed my heart", rather. Haha.
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>>128385956
Melania grew up shortly after the fall of Communism in a majority Catholic area, Slovenia. I suspect she was at least raised in the Church even if she lapsed as a woman.
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Several historic facts about the real “Mary” are recorded in Scripture. No Roman Catholic has ever been able to controvert ONE of them, so these Scriptures are all purposely concealed (or ignored) by ALL Catholic teachers who teach in ALL Catholic schools. Here, then, is the list of historical facts that no Roman Catholic is allowed to be taught, in public or in private, whether in a church or a convent or a monastery or a “Vatican Ecumenical Council.”
1. Mary was a sinner who needed a Saviour (Luke 1:47).
2. Mary was an unclean sinner who needed purification (Lev. 12:1-7; Luke 2:22).
3. Mary gave birth to at least SIX children after the birth of Christ (Mark 6:3), and NONE OF THEM WERE CHRIST’S “COUSINS.” Psalm 69:8 says that they were His “MOTHER’S CHILDREN.”
4. At the first attempt of any Papist to call Mary “blessed” (Luke 11:27-28), Jesus Christ corrects her for her Mariolotry. He tells her that she doesn’t know what she is talking about (Matt.
12:50).
5. Jesus Christ never refers to Mary as His
“mother” one time in the Scriptures. He either calls her “woman” (John 2:4, 19:26) or nothing at all (Luke 11:27-28).
6. No “early Christians” (Peter, James, John, Matthew, Thomas, Bartholomew, Paul, Silas, Barnabas, et al.) ever gave Mary “the time of day.” They never asked her for her opinion about any thing, let alone her religious opinions. They would have just as soon consulted a OUIJA board as consulted Mary for her advice on anything.
7. The last time Mary is mentioned in Scripture, she is in a prayer meeting (Acts 1:14) with 120 disciples. None of them honor her, none of them reverence her, none of them pray to her, and none of them celebrate the birthday of her Son; nor do they “Hail Mary” long enough for her to hail back.
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>>128385956
>How have you been doing, man?
Doing pretty good myself. Glad to hear you have a more stable job now and that you can join us for Sunday generals.

>And thank you so much for gathering this collage. I have gotten comments like this that have always my heart. Especially on /christian/.
I really need to get back to keeping an eye for them. Haven't been in to many generals of late. Glad that the picture has that effect, hope it keeps people motivated to do their online assistance to people. And ofc for people interested in Christianity to look at how its helped some people.
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>>128385830
>>128386527

You got eternally eternally eternally BTFOd in this thread.


Like the wheel of a cart is the mind of a fool,

and his thoughts like a turning axle.
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This is my trophy for the defeat of the LARPers a gift of thanks from the Lord.

>Now I am the last to keep vigil,
>like a gleaner following the grape-pickers;
>Since by the Lord’s blessing I have made progress
>till like a grape-picker I have filled my wine press,
>Consider that not for myself only have I labored,
>but for all who seek instruction.
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>>128387600
>>128387649
There is nothing to indicate actual physical violence against the money changers in the temple.

John 2:15
And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

the bible says jesus didnt actually ever do anything violent one single time

Isaiah 53:9
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

more proof jesus supports non retaliation for believers

Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Romans 12:19
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.


the bible says god is love not god is mean
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>>128388360
HAHAHAHA

Did you expect a smoking flax? Answer me that
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>>128388360
Using a scourge to drive people and animals out pretty heavily implies physical violence. You're quibbling over strike placement at that point.
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>>128388360
The point of this is sacrifice of self in service of God, of your fellow Christians, of the weak.

Protect your family, your people, not tit for tat petty retaliation
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>>128388493
>>128388527
>>128388756

Proverbs 16:32
32 He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.

Psalm 11:5
The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Ephesians 4:31-32
Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Matthew 10:16
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
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>>128388829
Did you expect a reed shaken in the wind?

Since you can't answer that. YOURE A BOT
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>>128381711
This stuff is just embarrassingly sad.

You had what? 2000 years to do this?
Get over yourselves.
Clearly these ancient sandnigger religions of the past will do fuck-all to fix our current situation.
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>>128383922
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>>128381711
Thanks to click bait media and yt asshats /pol/ is being flooded by even more newfags, shills and redditors.

They don't understand that Christian threads are /pol/ heritage threads
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Let it be known that even a man with the spirit of the Lord will not waver, but the bots will fail you.

Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

God smites the wicked. AMEN
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>>128389478
That is a great image, thanks mate.
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>>128389478
put these in there
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I'm so glad I screencap shit Ilove this place.
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PRAISE THE RISEN LORD!!!

ALLELUIA!!! ALLELUIA!!!
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>>128382727
>Christians=the government
What?
>Implying Assad isn't being framed by the Jews
What?
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>>128386786
>1. Mary was a sinner who needed a Saviour (Luke 1:47).

Your link says she has a savior. One has a savior if they are saved from sin (as per your understanding) and if they are saved from doing sin (as per Catholic teaching). You actually haven't contended the Catholic position with your evidence.

>2
That ritual purification has nothing to do with sin but with childbirth.

>3
The word for children in that time did not refer to children from the same parent. That is a cultural distinction. And your Psalm is hardly relevant even as prophecy.

>4
It is not a rejection of Mary but a warning against triumphalism. It doesn't reject Mary as blessed at all. Mary doesn't have powers but rather observes faithfully.

>5
Why does this even matter?

>6
This is extrapolation of your own design, to which you have no evidence.

>7
Well technically, Mary is last mentioned in Galatians. But anyway:

They have the need of saying who she is in relation to everyone else and saying her title in comparison to others. There is obvious respect given.

The Hail Mary is mainly pieced together by what an angel said to her and what Elizabeth said to her.

Overall, your criticisms aren't that strong at all, man.
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>>128387379
Thanks. I'm hoping to be a bigger part of Sunday Generals, even though I am still working heavily at my job and at home. I certainly hope the generals have been good.

Where have you been though? If you mind me asking.

>>128389100
You must be new here. You don't have a grasp of what you speak of.

>>128389574
I'm noticing this a lot.
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Is anyone here discerning?

I'm starting to think about it
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Any thoughts on the ESV translation? I think I am going to get one as my forever Bible
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>>128393068
We've had several in these generals over the years that have struggled with the idea of being a priest or monk. I myself being one of them.

Take your time. It is a hard topic.
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>>128393527
I don't think any white men of /pol/ should become priests or monks unless they have brothers they trust to pass down the family name. We're facing demographic crises all over the world, and taking a vow of celibacy seems wrong given circumstances.
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>>128394079
That could play a large part in someone discerning. On the flip side, one seeking either role would have a greater role as teacher and influence onto others while also being trained to teach properly explicitly.
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>>128394303
Keep forgetting artwork.
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>>128391929
>nothing to do with sin
Lev 12:6-8 And when the days of her purifying are fulfilled, for a son, or for a daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering, and a young pigeon, or a turtledove, for a SIN OFFERING, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest:
7 Who shall offer it before the Lord, and make an atonement for her; and she shall be cleansed from the issue of her blood. This is the law for her that hath born a male or a female.
8 And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a SIN OFFERING: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.
Mark 6:3 doesn't even have the word "children" or child in it. Are you even reading these verses?
3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
as for the psalm
>but children doesn't actually mean children!
whatever you say man
> a warning against triumphalism
isn't that exactly what the Catholic Church does? exult a woman who wasn't any more important than anyone else
>Mary doesn't have powers but rather observes faithfully.
show me in the bible where it says Mary is even an observer
>why does this even matter
Mary is unimportant, the Catholic church is guilty of Mariolotry and needs to called out
>to which you have no evidence.
negative claims require no evidence
show me where any of those guys revered Mary the way Catholics do
>They have the need of saying who she is in relation to everyone else and saying her title in comparison to others.
the Bible mentions her but none of the people she's with do
Mary Worship was an invention of the catholic church around 500 Ad
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2. The Significance of Pentecost
194:2.1.Jesus lived on earth and taught a gospel which redeemed man from the superstition that he was a child of the devil and elevated him to the dignity of a faith son of God. Jesus' message, as he preached it and lived it in his day, was an effective solvent for man's spiritual difficulties in that day of its statement. And now that he has personally left the world, he sends in his place his Spirit of Truth, who is designed to live in man and, for each new generation, to restate the Jesus message so that every new group of mortals to appear upon the face of the earth shall have a new and up-to-date version of the gospel, just such personal enlightenment and group guidance as will prove to be an effective solvent for man's ever-new and varied spiritual difficulties.
194:2.2.The first mission of this spirit is, of course, to foster and personalize truth, for it is the comprehension of truth that constitutes the highest form of human liberty. Next, it is the purpose of this spirit to destroy the believer's feeling of orphanhood. Jesus having been among men, all believers would experience a sense of loneliness had not the Spirit of Truth come to dwell in men's hearts.
194:2.3.This bestowal of the Son's spirit effectively prepared all normal men's minds for the subsequent universal bestowal of the Father's spirit (the Adjuster) upon all mankind. In a certain sense, this Spirit of Truth is the spirit of both the Universal Father and the Creator Son.
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>>128382454
kek

>>128381711
Memes aside, I'm thinking about converting to Calvinism from Lutheranism.

Pros:
>Basically the same fundaments, nothing I couldn't agree with
>Have a way stronger congregation
>I like how reasonable they sound, when they adress followers on everyday questions.

Cons:
>It'd feel like betraying my congregation (though they don't really seem to care about us anyway)
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>>128394079
True.
I cannot have faith in my brothers. It is my duty to God and my race of man to have as many white children as possible.
I have changed many things for this. It is what God has let me see as my path.
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>This general is for Christian denominations who derive their authority from God through apostolic authority. This would mean Catholic, Orthodox, and Oriental Christianity.

I'm pretty sure almost no modern church has much in the way of "authority."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQNcYvifYUY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8ikMIEW-Ek
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