It's time /pol/ It's time to bring back masculine

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Matthew 23

1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. 5 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacterieswide and the tassels on their garments long; 6 they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7 they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others. 8 “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah. 11 The greatest among you will be your servant. 12 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.
Seven Woes on the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees
13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are. 16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’

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17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it. 23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. 25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. 27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness. 29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.

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32 Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started! 33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation. 37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’”

@128361678

Christianity leads to homophobia and sexism. Being a Christian means being a bigot because Christianity denounces homosexuality. Besides, look at the crusades. If you're soooooo peaceful, then why did Christianity kill so many people in the past? Persecuted Jews in the 1600's? Christianity is a religion of bigotry.

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DEUS VULT

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We as Christian are the true children of God. Not these unbelievers of those who follow Islam, nor of the Jews who follow their Satanic scriptures of the Pharisees.

Acts 5:34-39
34 But a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law, who was honored by all the people, stood up in the Sanhedrin and ordered that the men be put outside for a little while. 35 Then he addressed the Sanhedrin: “Men of Israel, consider carefully what you intend to do to these men. 36 Some time ago Theudas appeared, claiming to be somebody, and about four hundred men rallied to him. He was killed, all his followers were dispersed, and it all came to nothing. 37 After him, Judas the Galilean appeared in the days of the census and led a band of people in revolt. He too was killed, and all his followers were scattered. 38 Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. 39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”

@128363035

I honestly can't believe you quoted Hitler. You just proved my point you fucking idiot.

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We need to combat the Nietzschean narrative that claims Christianity caused the decline of the West. Neopagans, atheists, and other, perhaps well-meaning factions, make use of it to demoralize us. To start with I recommend you anons read Ressentment by Scheler

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If you have to talk about masculinity, you're not masculine.

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@128363035

You must be new here. Go "@" someone on Twitter.

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>>128363181
Are you seriously using the @ symbol? Kek

I heard an old, old story,
How a Savior came from glory,
How He gave His life on Calvary
To save a wretch like me;
I heard about His groaning,
Of His precious blood's atoning,
Then I repented of my sins
And won the victory.

When done right, Christianity is the greatest faith on earth. Unlike Islam is has a New Testament that counters the more intense stuff in the Old Testament.

Deus Vult, defend what is right,

Where piety fails, may our blades fall.

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>>128363437
>Nietzschen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4
DEBASE MYSELF

>>128362766
>@
oh my sweet summer child

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h>>128363707
kekekekekek

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>>128362766
Stop.

>>128363683
I have been a Catholic for a long time, I follow the traditions set down by Christ the King and I would fight for my faith with tooth and claw.

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>>128361678
>It's time to bring back masculine Christianity
>It's time to...Dues Vult
Holy shit I can smell your fat from here

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>>128364210
Not all fat is bad you know

>>128361678

MUSLIM MAYOR of London tells NON MUSLIM people to EXPECT AND ACCEPT MUSLIM TERRORISM

WAKE
THE
FUCK
UP

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Christianity is a jewish cult.

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>>128364538
It's time to take a stand. The media likes to say that Jews and Muslims are at odds with each other because of the situation in Palestine and Israel, but in the west, they are working together to bring down Christianity. They cannot stand to hear the truth.

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>>128362766
(YOU)

>>128364775

A Jewish cult persecuted by Jews?

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Jesus said buy a sword so he could teach them a lesson about not using the sword

Matthew 26:52
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

masculine fags gtfo

real jesus believers listen to what the lord ACTUALLY TAUGHT

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>>128366173
It says be wary about using a sword because you risk you rlife in return you use violence then theyll use violence.Jess told them to put the swords back, in their sheath for a reason! Meaning they'd need themin the future

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>>128366684
There is nothing to indicate actual physical violence against the money changers in the temple.

John 2:15
And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

the bible says jesus didnt actually ever do anything violent one single time

Isaiah 53:9
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

more proof jesus supports non retaliation for believers

Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Romans 12:19
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

>>128365324
They're a subsection of jews.

>>128365667
Cathars were persecuted by christians, it's common to persecute unorthodox parts of your group.

>>128367147
Do you know what "scourge of small cords" means, you retard?
Jesus lived the whole of human experience
That's kind of the point

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>>128367643
ya it just said he made them and then he holding the weapon in his hand just flipped their tables and got them out of the house of god

jesus didnt ever do anything violent and he supports not self defense

self defense is a sin

Luke 17:33
Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.


these gun owners with a million guns ready to blast an intruders head off is desperately holding onto his life and property

>>128367368

Okay, but would you say that Catharism was a Christian plot? No, of course you wouldn't because that's retarded.

Also, there's a point at which something becomes totally distinct from its parent. Christianity reached that point almost immediately when Jesus criticized the Jewish conception of Sabbath, and definitely by the time that Peter made pork and "unclean" animals kosher.

Catharism was never so distinct from the main faith.

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meek does mean weak/cuck and im proud of it

the meek do inherit the earth

guess who doesnt like that? strong people.

they like to twist scripture to create their own jesus who is mean and masculine and strong

HAHAHAHAH HAHH AHh HAHAHAHH AHAH AHHA HAAH

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>>128367147
dont listen to this tumblrina theyre a literal satanist

>>128367907
>He made the weapon to show

At bare minimum he was throwing tables over and cracking it in the air, if not actually attacking them, the Law of Moses explicitly tells us what we're supposed to do in regards self-defense, get your pussified Verminianity out of here.

>>128367907
>Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

That doesn't refer to self-defense at all.

Jesus saved his own life many times.

Why didn't he allow himself to be stoned at the Temple Mount?

>>128368652
The greek word for meek is Praus, which in modern English is more accurately translated as Mildness or Gentleness.

It means being benevolent, not being passive or effeminate.

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>>128368692
>Jesus saved his own life many times.

really my bible paints a very different picture of jesus


Isaiah 53:7
He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.


this is a savior who doesnt even say a single word while theyre whipping him and beating him and crucifying him and just sits there

sorry you dontt have the same willpower as the son of god and you feel the need to defend yourself against jesus words

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>>128361678

>>128361678
If your ideal Christianity is completely opposed to what Christ taught and did why not just start a new better religion?

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>>128362766

>>128368902
He chose to die, they couldn't have killed Him if He didn't let them, that is the entire point of the story. He even tells the Apostles if He wanted He could have summoned a legion of angels if He had wanted.

There was nothing stopping Jesus from ending the crucifixtion story like Monty Python's Holy Grail with heavenly police showing up and arresting everyone, but that was not the intent.

You seem to have forgotten that the Lamb of God is also the Lion of Judah.

>>128368652
WEll yes Clement I called being submissive as being like a Roman soldier obeying the Caesar, it means men are discipline and obey their commanders. Its in 1 Clement to the Corinthians

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The jews made christianity, if you want to achieve anything the first step is to deactivate your brainlet

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>>128368886
i never said it was good to be effeminate

just that its not good to be strong tough guy violent man

which is the opposite of weak and meek

being violent is not gentle

these people want war and they want violence against the words of god

and they twist scripture to paint jesus as violent when the bible said he did no violence

meek means weak and not looking for conflicts deal with it

Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Trinitarian belief is not monotheism. It was a created ideology by a pagan emperor. Judaism/Islam? Now that's monotheism.

>>128361678
All gods are imaginary though.

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>for every terroristic attack, dumb fat christian\crusaders larpers follow on /pol/
Unspoken rule, always true.
Kill yourselves, the lot of you.

>>128368902

Jesus' sacrifice wasn't meant to be an example to other people.

There is no requirement to go out and be crucified just because Jesus was, unless you had some overwhelming call from God to do so (i.e. Peter). Even Peter was free to walk away from his crucifixion. There's an old story, which I believe to be true, that says before Peter was crucified he attempted to flee, only to meet Jesus going in the opposite direction "to be crucified again in your place". Peter almost certainly would not have been judged had he simply run away.

Christianity is not and never had been a death cult. One sacrifice -- that of Jesus Christ -- is sufficient for all mankind.

>>128369390
It is most certainly good to be strong, tough, and violent. Are you forgetting that God calls Himself a warrior and the lord of many armies? Or did you think the title "Lord of Hosts" meant He had a fetish for dinner parties.

The brute fact of the matter is that benevolence does not imply being weak, effeminate, slimy, envious, or slavish.

Have you even read Revelation or any of the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah?

>>128361678
(((Christianity))) is a jewish scam.
have fun worshiping your kike

oh wait that's forbidden isn't it?

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>>128369719
>>128369731
It's been proven Jesus was Jewish, wake up

>>128361678

War is coming, the only question is whether we in the West will revive our cultural heritage and religion and fight for it.

It is worth dying for? It's worth dying for Christ?
Probably not.

It is worth dying so we don't become Muslims.

You better fucking believe it is.

Dues Vult it is.

read the spectator magazine (UK) for a good idea of what people who care about this sort of stuff have to say without the hyperventilating. a more measured appreciation of the shit fight that's coming

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>>128369205
>>128369719
and then he taught turn the other cheek for believers to do the same

it doesnt mean you get killed on purpose

but if someone is attacking you , you dont fight back

sorry you dont know how to obey the words of the lord sweeties

>>128369731
ya jesus kills all the people in the world who arent christians im well aware but he teaches us to be meek and not to seek vengeance on anybody because the lord will do it for us in the end of the world

Romans 12:19
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
>Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
>Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.


Proverbs 16:32
32 He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.

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>>128362766
Sounds good to me.
Deus Vult.

>>128370142
You realize that Moses actually gave specific instructions on self-defense, which Jesus held up as valid [the same he did for all non-ceremonial Mosaic Law] right?

If someone is attacking you, the Christian course of action is to kill the rotten bastard.

>>128361678
PROTESTANT CRUSADE NOW

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YAAASSSS. Bring back muscular Christianity.

>The least of the muscular Christians has hold of the old chivalrous and Christian belief, that a man's body is given him to be trained and brought into subjection, and then used for the protection of the weak, the advancement of all righteous causes, and the subduing of the earth which God has given to the children of men

>>128370142
>and then he taught turn the other cheek for believers to do the same

This only applies in acts of revenge.

Being smacked on the cheek is never life-threatening, and to respond violently is never a legitimate act of self-defense. Responding violently to something like that can never be anything but vengeful.

>>128362766

Yes we were. But we're not like that, idiot.

The crusades started because Muslims were killing Christians like they had been doing in the middle east since the pedo arrived.
Learn history beyond the left-wing "we're so evil" bullshit or better yet move to a muslim country if they are so peaceful .

im sure you'll enjoy the same freedoms.

its cunts like yourself that brought this upon us.

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>>128361678
We have to admit it, the Church is in a crisis. But fear not, the church have endured far worse. In the long run, no one has ever lifted a finger against the Roman Church without getting obliterated in the end. We must persevere through whatever mean possible to protect the truth and save souls. We have to weed out the Marxists and Jews that have infiltrated the clergy, we have to excommunicate heretics, especially those with political power and we need to live with traditional Catholic values. You have 2 options, either join the relious life, either through the priesthood or through being a brother/monk, or to marry a traditionalist pious Catholic girl and have as many kids as possible. Fixing the Church starts with us.

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>>128370421

Matthew 5:38-42

38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

>>128370648
jesus died on a cross and didnt retaliate

i understand that you might not have the self discipline to be able to die like that but thats your own fault thats not jesus fault

>>128370550

What about manlets and physically effeminate men?

Surely they are not given bodies for that purpose.

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My son, do not despise the Lord's discipline
or be weary of his reproof,
12
for the Lord reproves him whom he loves,
as a father the son in whom he delights.

For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness. 11 For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

So hurting people can be an act of kindness. People in the old days though violence can be kindness, if put to the right purpose

>>128370835
This verse has been answered many times.
>>128370648
>>128368808
It is not teaching against self-defense or war and in order to interpret it in that light you would have to ignore dozens of direct commands God gives in the Old Testament and New on these subjects.

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>>128370999
thats the lord disciplining his children from heaven

the lord disciplining his children has nothing to do with how he taught believers to act on earth

and its probably to discipline them to be more meek and self controlled if anything

because they wanted to be violent like you guys

Deus Vult or gtfo
The West will be Christian again or it dies, there are no other choices

>>128371228
You're wrong unless you get trps TWICE IN ONE THREAD GTFO SATANIC BOT

>>128370835
>jesus died on a cross and didnt retaliate

Because why would he? It was his purpose to die on a cross, and no one could threaten his life under any other circumstances.

Jesus was literally incapable of physical self-defense, because realistically nobody could seriously threaten his life. The only death possible for him was voluntary crucifixion.

There were many other times where Pharisees threatened to stone him and he simply disappeared like a ghost. Therefore, there was no instance in which violent self-defense was necessary for Christ.

If he were not capable of simply disappearing like a ghost in those instances, then he almost certainly would have resorted to violence, because his death by stoning would not have met Messianic scriptural conditions.

Point to me one verse in which Jesus himself commands Christians not to defend their own lives, in clear language?

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>>128371210
heres proof god is against war

twisting scripture is not an argument

Psalm 46:9
He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

>>128369468
This. Jews are allowed to pray in a mosque but are not even permitted to step foot in a church.

your a retard.


THE
BOOK OF
SATAN

III
"Love one another" it has been said is the supreme law, but what power made it so? Upon what rational authority does the gospel of love rest? Why should I not hate mine enemies - if I "love" them does that not place me at their mercy?
Is it natural for enemies to do good unto each other - and WHAT IS GOOD?
Can the torn and bloody victim "love" the blood-splashed jaws that rend him limb from limb?
Are we not all predatory animals by instinct? If humans ceased wholly from preying upon each other, could they continue to exist?
Is not "lust and carnal desire" a more truthful term to describe "love" when applied to the continuance of the race? Is not the "love" of the fawning scriptures simply a euphemism for sexual activity, or was the "great teacher" a glorifier of eunuchs?
Love your enemies and do good to them that hate and use you - is this not the despicable philosophy of the spaniel that rolls upon its back when kicked?
Hate your enemies with a whole heart, and if a man smite you on one cheek, SMASH him on the other!; smite him hip and thigh, for self-preservation is the highest law!
He who turns the other cheek is a cowardly dog!
Give blow for blow, scorn for scorn, doom for doom - with compound interest liberally added thereunto! Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, aye four-fold, a hundred-fold! Make yourself a Terror to your adversary, and when he goeth his way, he will possess much additional wisdom to ruminate over. Thus shall you make yourself respected in all the walks of life, and your spirit - your immortal spirit - shall live, not in an intangible paradise, but in the brains and sinews of those whose respect you have gained.

satanism is more in line with your goals.

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>>128371491
jesus didnt dissapear like a ghost he simply swiftly got away

youre allowed to do that if you want if someone is chasing you

you dont have the right to defend yourself with violence thats a sin and going against the words of god

if you have not self control and feel the need to do it anyways thats your own fault and not what jesus teaches

>>128361678

DEUS VULT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiemtHphY3w

>>128371494
God literally commanded the genocide of an entire country once.

In Psalms he is depicted rejoicing while killing Babylonian babies.

In Isaiah, the Messiah is shown massacring thousands in a rage.

Who is this coming from Edom,
from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson?
Who is this, robed in splendor,
striding forward in the greatness of his strength?

“It is I, proclaiming victory,
mighty to save.”

2
Why are your garments red,
like those of one treading the winepress?

3
“I have trodden the winepress alone;
from the nations no one was with me.
I trampled them in my anger
and trod them down in my wrath;
their blood spattered my garments,
and I stained all my clothing.
4
It was for me the day of vengeance;
the year for me to redeem had come.
5
I looked, but there was no one to help,
I was appalled that no one gave support;
so my own arm achieved salvation for me,
and my own wrath sustained me.
6
I trampled the nations in my anger;
in my wrath I made them drunk
and poured their blood on the ground.”
>>128371846
H E R E T I C

>>128361678
OP I want to be with you on this, but theologically are you really on firm ground? I like your posts but none of them say anything about using violence.

Please show me specifically where I'm supposed to use violence. Hard Mode: No using the "he drove out the money-changers" bullshit, we don't know how violent that was. Did he just flip tables and shout? That's not really violent, anon, just being noisy.

Christianity grew because peasants were willing to die for their beliefs, NOT kill for them. This is undeniable. Where does your theology fit in?

>in b4 crusades

The Crusades were launched to free Christian slaves and retake Christian lands. It's also not clear that they were in keeping with Jesus' teachings.

>in b4 muh pope

If pope's can't make mistakes, what's the current one doing promoting globalism?

Anon you need to do much better convincing. Much better.

>>128371846

It says he hid himself. I don't believe for a second that means he cowered behind a pillar. And if that's what he did, then he would have been stoned as soon as one of the many Shlomos around him shouted "I saw him go behind that pillar".

No, he literally disappeared. Became incorporeal.

I notice that you still have not supplied that verse.

>>128370835
Except the temple collapsed as soon as he died from the cross, just as he promised and predicted.

>>128372385
>Please show me specifically where I'm supposed to use violence.

We are living in the days of the Book of Revelation. I urge you to read to know what Christ did when he returned to claim his Kingdom on Earth.

>>128361678
>2017
>still worshipping the dead kike on a stick

>>128372385
>If pope's can't make mistakes, what's the current one doing promoting globalism?

The current pope is illegitimate. The title of the Pope is belongs to Benedict XVI no matter how they promote Francis today.

>>128372864
>same conjecture made by every generation

Not an argument, Cleetus.

>>128373065
>only the popes I say are popes, are actual popes

You'll win hearts and minds with that argument, no question about it.

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>>128361678
>hate the truth
>a jewish man born without a father, he could turn water into alcohol, he could walk on water, he could make more food appear out of nowhere, and then he was crucified... and then he rose from the dead and vanished forever
Yeah, WE hate the truth... totally...

>>128373083
>implying it was an argument and not a suggestion

Go fuck yourself heathen.

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Apostle Paul/Saul called in the Roman army for personal protection in Acts 23

and in Romans 13
For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness. For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

that's Paul's Official Deus Vult verse

not to mention Jesus told Peter to buy two swords

>>128364210

Fat or not, he still has a point.

It's time to bring back masculine fairy tales.

>>128373335
How very Christian of you.

Really steams my noodle.

>>128373386
woops
For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.

wrong verse

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>>128372318
god implementing cosmic justice
or driving out a people before israel

does not have anything to do with how he taught christians to live their lives

>>128372529
ya he hid himself somewhere and then got away the bible doesnt say he became a ghost at that point thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard

Psalm 11:5
The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

>>128373482
Not an argument

>>128373631
>implying it was an argument and not a noodle steaming

I'll pray for you.

>>128373598
Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you strike him with a rod, he will not die. If you strike him with the rod, you will save his soul from hell.

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>>128373873
ya disciplining your children has nothing to do with turning the other cheek

it doesnt say discipline your neighbor with a rod

>>128370835
What you're describing is called being a cuck.

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>>128361678
>rants about jews
>immediately follows up with "a jew is the son of god"

What a bunch of fucking good goys you all are.
Im glad your middle eastern religion is failing. True Europeans will hold back the invasion of Europe, not a bunch of Talmudic Kew worshippers.
Hitler was a pagan, only publicly Christian because of the war. He knew the dangers of it.
Now please give me your autistic screeching (You)s shabbos goys

>>128374157
Whoever strikes his father or his mother shall be put to death.
I came not to abolish the law but to fullfill, not an iota shall pass.

>>128373598
>ya he hid himself somewhere

With enough people surrounding him to stone him, what you're suggesting is almost impossible. Becoming incorporeal is realistically the only way to read "he hid himself".

>The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

First of all, this is not Jesus speaking but David.

Second of all, self-defense can in no sense be described as 'loving of violence' but rather escape from it.

To allow yourself to be overcome by violence is much closer to 'loving violence'.

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>>128374162
>called being a cuck.

yes and im proud of it

because i like non violent peaceful society


>>128374268

word id already be dead by now if we lived in israel i cursed my mother a million times

i still believe in god though

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This is how we will accomplish our goals, soldiers of God.

1. Round up Muslims in the west and return them where they came from.
2. Commit iconoclasm on Islamic culture all over the world. This includes destroying the cube in Mecca.
3. Reclaim Constantinople.

As for Jews, Christ is the king of Jews who is the descendent of David, whom was the King of Israel. Therefore Israel and Jerusalem belongs to the children of God, not Satan worshippers who call themselves Jews.

We are reaching a tipping point. We cannot bear this anymore. A terrorist act on the children of God, Christians is a terrorist act on God, the father.

Let us pray to the Lord before we set forth our mission to establish the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth.

https://youtu.be/hQAgrCuKwPc

>>128374494
A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.

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>>128374472
no these violent strong proud men who try to twist the words of jesus are the ones who love violence they cant wait to retaliate and knock someones teeth out

they cant wait to buy 20 guns and anticipate someone coming in so they can shoot them

thats loving violence

i dont own a gun and if someone started hitting me i would turn the other cheek or gtfo

im not trying to be strong im trying to be meek as the lord instructed and avoiding conflict

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>>128374175

Sorry we don't hate all people of Jewish ethnicity regardless of their personal character or beliefs.

You're really going to chastise us for not being as irrational as you are?

>>128374776
They which builded on the wall, and they that bare burdens, with those that laded, every one with one of his hands wrought in the work, and with the other hand held a weapon.
For the builders, every one had his sword girded by his side, and so builded. And he that sounded the trumpet was by me.

>>128374776
>no these violent strong proud men who try to twist the words of jesus are the ones who love violence they cant wait to retaliate and knock someones teeth out

I agree with this.

Looking for a fight is absolutely a sin.

I just don't see the leap from acknowledging that to prohibiting self-defense per se. "Turning the other cheek" doesn't cut it, because that's specifically in reference to violent acts of revenge. It's a prohibition of violence for its own sake.

It's a sufficient answer to "deus vult" and looking for a fight, but not to self-defense.

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>>128361678
I agree with this. Honestly, we need to make Based Jesus memes and create our own new branch of Christianity similarly to kek.

We don't need to renounce our paganistic ways, it is like Xmas trees or Easter, we just need to move forward and save the father

Mark 15 And he [JESUS] said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Mark 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

> take heed.

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>>128374175
Care to remind me anywhere in history where you Pagans who praise Tinkerbell has come to defend terrorists in history or in recent times?

>Hitler was Pagan
Wrong. The idea of the Reich came straight out of the Book of Revelations. Stop listening to homeless bastards like Varg and open your eyes to the truth.

https://youtu.be/Sz42hBg4jys

>>128374901
>ancient u mad posting

praise jesus!! amen!

>>128375340
Is there a red pilled history of Israel anywhere? I literally know nothing between founding and bibi

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Better is death than a wretched life,
everlasting sleep than constant illness.

That's in the Bible

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>>128375118
ive never had to defend myself one single time in my entire life

ive taken a few hits and just didnt do anything

someone who is desperately defending their ego and their property and their life would feel the need to defend themselves

which is a sin because youre desperately holding onto your life and jesus said whoever seeks to save his life will lose it

how come i dont need to defend myself and you do

>>128375521
Do you mean the Jewish State of Israel which the UN came to recognize as a legitimate state in 1948?

>>128375714
An untamed horse turns out stubborn;

and a son left to himself grows up unruly.

>>128375521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXQcjmLw_Rc

long but packed with info.. maybe do 30min sessions until you finish.

>>128361678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmbyWGCwX90
If the Roman Church had a pope like in this show, I would be a Catholic

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>>128361678
I. The reason Christianity is perceived as effeminate is because most denominations rely principally on the New Testament. The Old Testament is perceived as just that: old. In reality, almost quote of Jesus can be traced back to certain passages in the Old Testament. In fact, the entire Beatitudes can be found in Deuteronomy, one of the "Books of the Law".

II. Even when a Christian realizes this, he is still at a loss to accept the Old Testament. "The Old Testament was written by Jews," he says. "I am not a Jew--I am an Anglo-Saxon (or German, etc.). How can I abide by laws written specifically by and for Jews? How can I be sure the promises made to the Jews by Jehovah in Genesis will apply to me as well?" His crisis of faith is a racial question.

III. There is only one soluble answer for his dilemma. He must sooner or later come to the realization that the Jews of today are not the Jews of thousands of centuries ago. What we call "Jew" today is actually of proto-Turkic stock. The Jew of today is a chimera of Arabian and Turkish blood (cf. The Thirteenth Tribe, by Arthur Koestler).

IV. What is that? A ray of light. Hold onto it. Then this Christian learns that the early Hebrews were in fact more related to the Greeks than to the other so-called Semitic tribes. In fact, he learns that Hebrew and Koine Greek are cognate languages of the ancient Phonecian language. That Egypt, Greece, and the Levant were in constant intercourse with eachother, both genetically and culturally.

V. Finally, our man learns that Christ actually is the the mythic Dionysus of ancient Greece, born again under an auspicious star. That the West from its inception, through the Middle Ages, onto the advent of the New World has culturally been under the same pan-European religion. Where there are differences in names their is identity in symbol. Osiris, Dionysus, Christ, Odin are the same representations of an ancient life force.

>>128375714
>ive never had to defend myself one single time in my entire life
>how come i dont need to defend myself and you do


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71rUHF2lkss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCTS5Ehm0cI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zduHFOaqlsM

>>128365324
Im now remembering the first time I learned kikes killed jesus, and even though I've been on /pol/ for years I have to admit it is quite skilled how utterly they condition us to forget/forgive that

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>>128361678
>Christianity
>masculine
ok christkike

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>>128376213
you guys cant comprehend outright dying like jesus

it just blows right past your mind

its because youre living for this world and defending it

its a sin

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>>128362766
>Sees flag
Justin, what are you doing here?

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>>128376367


Whoever seeks God must accept discipline;

and whoever resorts to him obtains an answer.

The lawless turn aside warnings

and distort the law to suit their purpose.
Whoever seeks the law will master it,

but the hypocrite will be ensnared by it

>>128373476
Yeah like DBZ and Fist of the North Star

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God indeed will not delay,

and like a warrior, will not be still

Till he breaks the backs of the merciless

and wreaks vengeance upon the nations;

Till he destroys the scepter of the proud,

and cuts off the staff of the wicked;

>>128376367
>you guys cant comprehend outright dying like jesus

You literally cannot die like Jesus, and you're not supposed to anyway.

Jesus' death was sacrificial. If it were not for the sacrificial aspect, it would be disgusting and abhorrent to God as well as mankind.

God does not want you to die like Jesus. Jesus does not want you to die like him.

You still have not provided a verse which calls on Christians to "die like Jesus".

>>128363000
well, Jesus wills it

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Listen to what God thinks about death, can that sentence be LOVE?! Yes Deus Vult

Do not fear death’s decree for you;

remember, it embraces those before you and those to come.

4This decree for all flesh is from God;

why then should you reject a law of the Most High?

Whether one has lived a thousand years, a hundred, or ten,

in Sheol there are no arguments about life.

Is it Christian to dislike non-whites and want to have nothing to do with them? Im trying to reconcile my political beliefs with my religion but it's hard

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I'd rather have based Buddhism.

>>128377161
I don't think anything in Christianity says don't be a racist. Just don't be a dick.

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>>128363181
>>128362766
you are so new it's adorable
you made my day, post more

>>128377161
No, we as Christians are supposed to love all in our path. Even when they sin we are to love the human but hate the path they have chosen for themselves.

Balancing empathy and strength is the true challenge for a Christian.

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Militant Christian death squads when?

https://youtu.be/pudNeGNfBvo

>>128377161

You would have to dehumanize them first if you plan to hate them without regard to their personal character or intentions.

If your political views involve violence against your fellow man, it's safe to say that this is hypocrisy with Christianity.

Now, to want to have a separate political body apart from non-whites, that's another thing. Nothing wrong with that. But consider that achieving this in our country will inevitably involve violence against people who maybe don't deserve it.

The true end of religion should always be recognition of the futility of politics. From a truly Christian perspective, even a 100% white society would likely be degenerate. There are no political solutions to human degeneracy. Whites and non-whites alike are bound to sin like a slave; the racial composition of your society has nothing to do with your servitude to sin.

If you seek a white society, never commit a sin in furtherance of that end and you should be good with God.

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>>128376923
you dont have to thats just the character of god to not retaliate all the way till death

if thats what it means

people want to shoot a burglar crook instead of just letting him have all ur shit

i say thats wrong

>>128378065
>But consider that achieving this in our country will inevitably involve violence against people who maybe don't deserve it.
I genuinely believe much of this can be avoided if the hivemind follows the most Christian path. (along with meme magic and lulz)

>>128378127
But of these things do not be ashamed,

lest you sin to save face
Of the Law of the Most High and his precepts,

or of justice that acquits the ungodly;

of bargaining in dealing with a merchant;

Of constant training of children,

of beating the sides of a wicked servant

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FAITHFUL ARE THE WOUNDS OF A FRIEND
BUT THE KISSES OF AN ENEMY ARE DECEITFUL

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Thus they will know, as we know,

that there is no God but you.

Give new signs and work new wonders;

show forth the splendor of your right hand and arm.

Rouse your anger, pour out wrath;

9humble the enemy, scatter the foe.a

Hasten the ending, appoint the time,

and let people proclaim your mighty deeds.

Let raging fire consume the fugitive,

and your people’s oppressors meet destruction.

Crush the heads of the hostile rulers

who say, “There is no one besides me.”

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>>128363181

>being this new

Please go back to wherever it is you came from.

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>>128361678
>masculine Christianity

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Seek no advice from a merchant about business
Kek

>>128376192
>The Thirteenth Tribe, by Arthur Koestler
10-15 years ago the khazarian connection in white nationalist circles was common knowledge.
About 5 years ago Andrew anglin of the daily
stormer and a few others started pushing the idea that Ashkenazi jews are semetic. He started using the jews term "anti-semitic" as if it was legit. Previously this was frowned upon by WN's. That's why I have never trusted anglin.

>>128379969

we lock pedos up.

Can you say the same for Muslims... even the ottomans had a thing for little boys. and afghans do today. and pakis

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>>128363453
Have you seen Turkish men lately?

>>128362766
>Christianity leads to homophobia and sexism

is...is that a problem?

I fail to see the problem.

>>128379969
This is because of freemasons infiltration of catholic church. And all the major leaders that push Israel first in the US are likely freemasons too. Homosexuality and pedophilia is a masonic thing. It's part of there rituals.

>>128361678
>Dues Vult

LARP

>>128363181
>@128363035

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>>128361678

REMINDER - THIS IS A SPONSORED THREAD:


(Mossad), the paid Catholic shills, and the Paid Russian Orthodoxy shills push this... All of these groups = the Alt-Right meme.


The "elite" is code for Jews and their blackmailed sociopath pedophiles (Hillary's mom was a Jew). Because Jews run a child sex slave ring out of Ukraine/Israel and sometimes South America (see Hatti and Clintons) and use pedophiles as their boot-licking goy politicians/celebrities.

They use the symbolism of the occult because it's a marketing campaign to cover up for Zionist and Jewish Communist crimes/power moves. The occult became degenerate as fuck ever since Thelma (Alestor Crowley), Anton (((Levy))) of Hollywood Satanism, and Navy Intelligence groups took over the scene; although it was always a place for scam artists. Freemasons became corrupted after being bought out by Jews in the mid-1800s -- thanks to Napoleon emancipating the Jews and the Rothschild take over Britain with the fall of Napoleon (See Rothschild's run on the stocks after Battle of Waterloo)

Catholics and Russians are both pro-Communism and therefor cover for them too by telling you it's "Satanists" and not Jewish Communists and their Zionist mafia allies. This is something the John Birch Society did when re-inventing the "Illuminati" meme (see Alex Jones connection).

Moloch = word meaning KING (Assyrian)

Moloch propaganda = Jewish hate of enemy king, like they do to Assad

's'atan = Aramaic word meaning "adversary", any adversary, or many adversaries.

Satan the character = Catholic meme to demonize our ancestral gods and dumb down Bible references for stupid plebeian audiences.

Synagogue of Satan = Pro-Roman Jews. Jesus was a Zealot.

Lucifer = Morning Star
Jesus = Morning Star
Luciferians = Christian monks who pissed off the Pope

Judaism = pre-Christianity

Marxism/Communism = Post Christianity Judaism

Cultural Marxism = critical theory, aka strategy to demoralize the Jew's enemies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVeCpDU0RIU

I agree. Required reading for those interested:
-The Church Impotent, The Feminization of Christianity by Leon Podles
-Wild at Heart by John Eldredge

>>128377141
>posting fanfiction and pretending it's the original

Nine is the number of execution in the bible

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APOSTOLIC CHRISTIANITY GENERAL
HAPPY PENTECOST

>>128381711
GENERAL FOR CATHOLIC, ORTHODOX, AND ORIENTAL CHRISTIANITY.

please don't post excerpts from pozzed bible versions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFtI_mVOXbQ&t=388s

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>>128361678
Amen

Deus Vult

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>>128361678
Pagans hate all desert faggot religions but don't mind Christianity because so many of our family and ancestors were jewed into believe it so the priests would get rich. Jesus himself wasn't such a bad dude though. Satan, Loki are cut from the same cloth, unite with us to fight back the Islamic horde.

>>128361678
Is Orthodox Christianity the answer? The seem pretty hardcore. Too bad about the corruption.

>>128383598
no
the answer is reading the bible for yourself and not being spoonfed by corruptible minds

Daily reminder that any discussion of organized Christian struggle against death cults will be attacked by shills because THEY do not need any one resisting the downfall of Christianity.

>>128384588
I as a son of Woden will defend Christianity to the death (enemy of my enemy etc), hopefully this post was made by a shill, don't turn your back on easily convertible Odinists. Islam will kill you, we will not.

“Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

>>128384889
>son of woden
Literally who gives a fuck about your dildo. We have the bible that actually says Don't trust le happy merchant

>>128361678
Turn the other cheek. Mary's husband had to raise someone who was not his son. Worship a Semitic man. These are parts of Christianity.
>>128380435
Only because atheists were vocal about it.

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>>128361678

REMINDER - THIS IS A SPONSORED THREAD:


(Mossad), the paid Catholic shills, and the Paid Russian Orthodoxy shills push this... All of these groups = the Alt-Right meme.


The "elite" is code for Jews and their blackmailed sociopath pedophiles (Hillary's mom was a Jew). Because Jews run a child sex slave ring out of Ukraine/Israel and sometimes South America (see Hatti and Clintons) and use pedophiles as their boot-licking goy politicians/celebrities.

They use the symbolism of the occult because it's a marketing campaign to cover up for Zionist and Jewish Communist crimes/power moves. The occult became degenerate as fuck ever since Thelma (Alestor Crowley), Anton (((Levy))) of Hollywood Satanism, and Navy Intelligence groups took over the scene; although it was always a place for scam artists. Freemasons became corrupted after being bought out by Jews in the mid-1800s -- thanks to Napoleon emancipating the Jews and the Rothschild take over Britain with the fall of Napoleon (See Rothschild's run on the stocks after Battle of Waterloo)

Catholics and Russians are both pro-Communism and therefor cover for them too by telling you it's "Satanists" and not Jewish Communists and their Zionist mafia allies. This is something the John Birch Society did when re-inventing the "Illuminati" meme (see Alex Jones connection).

Moloch = word meaning KING (Assyrian)

Moloch propaganda = Jewish hate of enemy king, like they do to Assad

's'atan = Aramaic word meaning "adversary", any adversary, or many adversaries.

Satan the character = Catholic meme to demonize our ancestral gods and dumb down Bible references for stupid plebeian audiences.

Synagogue of Satan = Pro-Roman Jews. Jesus was a Zealot.

Lucifer = Morning Star
Jesus = Morning Star
Luciferians = Christian monks who pissed off the Pope

Judaism = pre-Christianity

Marxism/Communism = Post Christianity Judaism

Cultural Marxism = critical theory, aka strategy to demoralize the Jew's enemies.

Sirach 37:11
This is definitely inspired by God

>>128370733
>hurr durr Crusades were self defense!

Yeah self defense of a fucking Empire (Rome) that had no origins in the Middle East. The fact that you defend the existence of Europeans in Middle East while arguing for ethnonationalism shows you're retardation. And then Crusaders sacked Rome's capital, which goes to show how you vermins are so delusional.

>inb4 hurr durr im not an ethnonationalist

Fuck off from /pol/ then you cunt.

>>128385234
The bible is Jew desert nonsense. They call your true religions "myths". What seperates "myths" from Jonah being eaten by a whale and living to tell the tale, or saints who preached to animals.

Propaganda to make your priests rich, priests who were not man enough to stand in the shield wall so they knew their fortune could be had by making others dance like puppets.

Take that desert god and shove it up your gaping priest raped hole.

>>128386731
This is shit. The Crusades were to protect western civilization. Like it or not Byzantines were what we now call the West, as was much of the middle east back then. Ignorant fool.