If homosexuality is degenerate, why hasn't centuries of

>>128285429
How you gone make babies splooging inside another man's butthole?

>>128285429
Homosexuality is most likely a mutation of the X chromosome that mainly makes women MORE attracted to men so they on average have more kids, and men who have the mutation have less kids on average.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2012.02785.x/abstract

http://sci-hub.bz/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2012.02785.x

>>128285884

Very interesting, this also means that it breeds out more feminine men out of the gene pool since gay men don't reproduce as much on average in theory.

>>128285429

Because homosexuality is a choice.

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>>128285884
Wtf does "most likely" mean in scientific terms?
It means there is no fucking proof. It means "maybe". It's a fucking guess.

>>128286070
Well to me the most extreme end of gay is transgender and many of them self-castrate and most seem to me to not have an interest in kids. I am feminine but I still want kids, ideally through surrogacy so they are related to me, and if I can't afford that, than via adoption.

I do think homosexuality is a spectrum in terms of how feminine gays can be and how much they want kids to the point where they are willing to marry a female in a sham marriage to get them (or at least that's how it used to be) for the most masculine gays.

>>128286105
I agree, hmmm where should I stick my dick? In this woman's pussy or this man's asshole?

>>128286325
I think it is probably polygenic and not fully understood and as well if a specific gene were uncovered that would lead some to want to eliminate it so that doesn't really inspire research.

1. It isn't caused by genes
2. If it is caused by genes, the same gene that causes it may also give rise to some other competitive advantage.
3. Homosexuality may be a competitive advantage in itself, in that families end up with an extra helping hand to manage its affairs, spend more time working and providing, or helping raise the children, without being distracted by their own

>>128285429
Maybe people have societal functions other than breeding.

>>128286491
More guessing. Thats not good science.

>>128285429
Because it isn't genetic, gays reproduce by molesting children who then grow up to do the same while rationalizing their lifestyle as something they were born with.

>>128286609
Well yeah I think the two biggest angles would be a mutation of the X chromosome and a feminization of the womb via intra-uterine hormone delivery perhaps caused by stress, illness of the mother, or just mere birth order happenstance. It is possible there are multiple factors going on here. Maybe I'm just missing out but there doesn't seem to be a ton of genetic research on the subject. I'm not a scientist by any means I'm just presenting what I feel are the most likely hypotheses.

>>128286609

How can evolution be real if it's just a theory (a gues?)

Homosexuality not being socially acceptable in the past probably caused lots of homosexuals to marry and have kids.

>>128285429
Gays can't procreate and shit doesn't have chromosomes.

>>128286431
You have no issues with gay adoption? Don't you think ultimately a child is best served with a mother and father as it most closely replicates natural gender norms?

>>128285429
For the same reason Down's syndrome and things like that haven't disappeared. The large majority of downies are born sterile, yet it keeps popping up. Same thing.

>>128285429

It's a disease induced by molestation, sexual overactivity, and pornography usage. The cure is to "reboot" the brain by abstaining from pornography and masturbation for six months. See www.yourbrainonporn.com.

Because homosexuality, as it is understood, doesn't exist.

>>128286942
You tell me, is it real or it is just a theory?

>>128287087
Nope. We have yet to see any studies comparing adoptive MARRIED gay couples vs straight couples in terms of the outcome of the child. I don't think replicating gender norms is that important for the child I think having a stable pairing of 2 people to share the work of child-rearing is the most important factor.

>>128285429
Because it's a fetish or a phelia

>>128285429

if poor eyesight is bad for you then why is it still in the gene pool?

because you're a stupid roach who doesnt understand genetics

>>128285429
for one, mutations can crop up at any time, and secondly, it's more likely an epigenetic misfiring due to unexpected environmental factors, ie xenoestrogen or porn, and thirdly, it has always been an element of humankind in a small segment of the population so there might be some sort of primal social reason that isn't immediately evident but would be more so if we were still polygamous huntergatherers

>>128285429
When was sexual behavior reclassified to a genetic trait and by whom?

>>128287623
Because with poor eyesight still have children

>>128285884
Or maybe homos are mentally ill and it has nothing to do with that.

psychological sexual deviations

Because it's a fetish and a political ideology and has no biological basis for existence. Alcoholism and gambling addiction are also persistent maladaptions.

>>128287425
What's your opinion on this study:
http://www.heritage.org/marriage-and-family/report/the-regnerus-study-social-science-new-family-structures-met-intolerance

>>128285429
I've never met a fag who wasn't molested or didn't have a dysfunctional relationship with one or both of their parents. I'm also certain faggotry isn't genetic.

>>128285429
because as much as faggots tell you they dont have control they do. they choose to be degenerate. so no amount out breeding is gonna change it if idiot gays keep bringing it back in

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Homosexuality is necessary for great art and literature.
Promiscuity of any sort signals and brings about civilizational decline.
Rape and molestation of both women and children has always and will always exist and is handled in a societies own way according to level of decline.

>>128286604
Ha, and that's in their biology, right? No different than saying gender is a social construct.

>>128285884
Field studies and simple math disprove this

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>>128285429
>implying being a faggot is genetical

>>128287918
That the study did not compare gay married parents to straight married parents.

>>128285429
It's almost as if, homosexuality wasn't genetic.

>>128287933
theres plenty of straight people who meet both of those too

>>128285429
Homosexuality isn't a heritable trait. It's like you look around at the world and ask "If video games are only a few decades old, how could we evolve to play video games?"

>>128288101
So you think that the marriage factor is the big differential there, why?

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>>128285429
One of Mother Natures ways of population control.

>>128286431
Gays don't behave femininely tho, they are predatory and self destructive.

What they behave most like are sexually abused children. Acting out, inappropriate behavior, self harm, arrested development.

Coincidentally a large plurality of gays were sexually abused as children.

>>128285429
I believe it's an "error" on brain wiring. Errors, like all mutations happen randomly and that's why homosexuality isn't just human trait but happens with other animals too. You should also note that being openly gay has not always being an option so even gay men have had children by forcing themselves on their wives just to make a baby. Even nowadays gays artificially make genetic copies of themselves by renting an uterus and using artificial insemination.

People are not just straight or just gay either because there's the group "bi". So I'm guessing they should have higher chance to pass the gene forward that makes a person gay. Not 100% sure if it so but the logic sounds right.

>>128285429
homosexuality is temptation by the devil. the devil is eternal, hence why you can't get rid of it.

It's not a genetic trait. It's perverse behavior brought on by sexual abuse or psychological illness

>>128288387
That monogamy is important to a child's welfare and allowing gays to adopt encourages monogamy. Obviously divorce will still happen, but marriage and adoption rights are a huge incentive to form intact families vs. the arrangement of old where a lot of gays formed unhappy marriages with straight women/men that often fell apart after the loneliness set in after a few years and both partners strayed.

>>128288407
Some gays are more feminine than others, that part is definitely a spectrum.

I think many gay kids were abused because they were vulnerable as kids, often weaker or shyer than their peers and less likely to tell, same with autistic kids.

>>128288701
get rid of atheists and you get rid of gays

>atheists btfo

>>128286070
No, it means that there will always be gays. Traits can be fantastic for one sex and bad for the other. Example: You and your sister have cute slim, babbyfaces. That's attractive in women and unattractive in men. But since it helps your sister attain better males, her offspring will pass on the babbyface.

>>128286544
Nailed it. Factor in the family/tribe when it comes to humans. If one or two men of the tribe are gay it doesn't matter, since their relatives pass on their genes, too. A gay dude would have time to devote himself to woodcrafting or other tasks.


Point is, human evolution is super complicated and gays may be a benefit to society.

Consider: Todays fag culture of parties, drugs and STDs is only possible in our gluttonous world.

Hormonal influence during gestation caused by environmental toxins cannot be darwined out.

For the same reason we still have freaks and lunatics - they are genetic defects, not traits.

Practicing system to "hunt" the girls in case you are on your way to be unable to pass your genes. Thats why some guys who cant get girlfriends start to look for alternatives.

>>128285429
It is not a part of the human gene pool.
You assuming it is, is the problem.

>>128288058
Yes, that can be in their genes. Parents usually had more than one child.

>>128288781
Well and to be more specific monogamy is more important because you have two people with an arrangement sharing the task of raising kids in both labor and costs so that makes it easier for both of them to do a better job. I don't particular feel seduced by the moral argument of monogamy but I think resource sharing is important. That said, kids can be produced well if there is family support with grandparents, aunts/uncles etc. to help raise the children. I think poor outcomes are often the result of poverty and/or alienation from families to help raise children communally rather than the innate qualities of gays which are at least in part cause by their traditional alienation from family structures.

>>128289015
no it's a part of atheist unbelievers and the devil

get rid of atheists and install a Christian theorcacy. No more gays

>>128288781
What are the potential cons for an adopted child being raised by a gay couple?

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jews ?

>>128289081
quit your bullshit pseudoscience and come to god faggot

>>128288388
This.

and nice digits

>>128285429
it is spiritually state of mind

like being russian, which is opposite of being homosex.

>>128289094
That the parents would have a higher risk of mental illness and so would be less able to take care of the children. That said, it remains to be seen how much that will change now that kids are raised with a lot less stigma and alienation from their families just for being gay which will likely detract from incidences of mental illness. Poverty is actually less of an issue with gays as they have higher incomes on average. I think anything a gay parents can do wrong is equally criminalized in outcome for a straight parent (domestic violence, abuse) and thus differing laws are not needed as long as all things that would hurt the child are addressed as best as possible by outside forces.

>>128287946
>because as much as faggots tell you they dont have control they do
Quite the expert there aren't ya.

>>128287660
>there might be some sort of primal social reason that isn't immediately evident

It's called being horny, we know this because some people fuck exhaust pipes, there is no genetic mutation that would cause a person to fuck a tailpipe of a car. It's a decision that person made to stick his dick into a tailpipe

>>128289092
Why then do Islam states keep finding fags to behead?

>>128285429

Two words: Cultural Marxism.

>>128289806
didn't know they have internet in skien prison

Btw op I don't believe people who are homosexual should be chastised, there are some very cool people I respect that enjoy being homosexual, I just wish some people wouldn't try to convince me it's a genetic trait like eye color

>>128285429
>why hasn't centuries of Darwinism selected this counterproductive trait out of the human gene pool?
because for centuries we have forced homosexuals to conform to society, and most have thus putting them in a situation where they bred.

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>implying we are the same as non-thinking animals
What is free will?

>>128285429
Because Darwinism is a load of crap.

>>128285429
We've established this many times that homosexuality is not genetic at all. It's a acquired mental disorder or a fetish. I'll go so far as to say it's not even a sexuality as it's more akin to self-harm and physical abuse. No need for the extra qualifiers.

The answer is to reject the activitist's and start treating it for the mental disorder or harmful fetish it is. There are medications on the market that work, and rounds of trauma and/or dissociative therapy would help.

Also Darwinian Evolution is pseudoscience fairy tales - so there goes all that.

>>128285884
Until that is proven, homosexuality is not genetic.

Don't treat speculations as results.

>>128287037
THIS!

>>128285429
Because homosexuality is only partly nature: the other part is learned behavior. Like most things in life, sexuality is not a simple "nature vs nature" divide but a mix of the two.

>>128290723
Ohhhhh sweeeeeetie

>>128287660
Mutations are not proof of evolution - they're damaged genes.

>>128285429
Any talk of 'genes' with regard to homosexuality is hilarious. Genes can't get passed on or selected for unless there is reproduction going on.

>>128287903
This.

When was the last time anyone witnessed an alcoholics pride parade?

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>>128285429
Because humans are very complex creatures and what you call homosexuality is an umbrella term that covers a very broad range of behaviours with numerous motivators.
There are men who consider themselves straight who will go to a dark sweaty room and get their cock sucked by some teenaged boy because they had that one hot time in high school.
There are men who are say they are straight, have had three marriages and many children, but fuck guys because they are wired to have to fuck something every six hours.
There's times and places where men having sex has been used as a social bonding that has proved very strong.
>>128290292
Free will is an observer artifact, wave forms in your incredibly complex neural arrangement can give rise to anomalies that allow you to act contrary to hard wired instinct. That's why humans are relentlessly unpredictable. That combined with our ruthlessness is why we are the dominant species, intelligence arose from the need to win arguments and build consensus, life has no problems to solve that need these minds we have. We are our greatest challenge, always have been.

>>128285429
Gay was beaten out of people back in the day, now they are encouraged. Theyll die out now.

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>>128286472

asshole, obviously.

>>128291669
crop that image

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>>128287425
>requires studies to determine if degeneracy is bad for child development

>>128285429
1 post by this ID
>darwinism = heterosexualism?
sage close /thread

Homosexual couples can only reproduce un-naturally..... so evolution... or god whatever you believe actually has found a way to keep inferior genes from the pool.

>>128285429
Its more like bisexuality. Its useful in bonding between males so they will work together.

>>128285429
Homosexuals have a over sexualized degenerates who have no self control over their sexual fantasies & over time they become more & more intense the farther down the rabbit hole they go.

>>128286325
Everything is a "maybe" in science.

Diet and environmental toxins can interfere with the normal functioning of the endocrine system and cause men to act more like women.

"Fag" is now a subculture. The flamers have fun parties and all you have to do to be accepted is say you like cock. Most of them are in it because they are lonely and don't get invited to parties. The fags accept them, but then these straight males must go far out of their way to convince the fags how much they like cock.

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>>128291669
>observer artifact, wave forms in your incredibly complex neural arrangement can give rise to anomalies that allow you to act contrary to hard wired instinct. That's why humans are relentlessly unpredictable. That combined with our ruthlessness is why we are the dominant species, intelligence arose from the need to win arguments and build consensus, life has no problems to solve that need these minds we have. We are our greatest challenge, always have been.

Don't overthink it, my man. Will is a very powerful force. Don't discount it.

>>128290006
They actually do. lol
Kind of proves his point, doesn't it?

>>128285429
Because it's a mental illness brought about by external environmental factors and genetics has little to nothing to do with it.

what i always wondered was what gays find attractive in other men. men like certain body types and shapes in women because it makes them look fertile but what does a man see in another man that makes him want to fuck him? what is the reason they find these things attractive?

>>128285429
>If homosexuality is degenerate, why hasn't centuries of Darwinism selected this counterproductive trait out of the human gene pool?
Darwinism works on genes, not memes. Poofs are just weak minded fuckers that got memed on. Darwinism rewards them for their weak-mindedness with no destiny and the end of their lineage.

>>128285429
It has. Homos are something like 2-5% of the population depending on how you count and define them.

The whole gay thing is so blown out of proportion that you would think every other person is gay. In truth we're talking about a really tiny minority that is being weaponized by both sides and used as a political wedge

>>128285429

because it's not genetic

it's something (((another race))) convinces of to eliminate yours

>>128285429
If it was genetic, it would be impossible to pass on

>>128285429
Because it's not genetic. It spreads through pedophiles.

>>128285429
Xenoestrogens were never as widespread in the environment as they are now.

>>128287087
Gender norms? You mean biological reality?

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homosexuality was a mental disorder. So......

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>>128285429
Because it's not a gene. It has to do with stress in the womb and mental illness.

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>>128286720
>gays reproduce by molesting children
Hmm, Really zozzles the nozzle

>>128285429
It's not genetic like people say. If people can't get a woman there is a high chance they become gay instead since getting a man is no problem. But still it doesen't explain why Stephen Fry is a faggot, he was alpha as fuck when he was younger.

>>128298095
Maybe Stephen Fry was molested. It would explain his condition.

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Join the OFFICIAL /polgb/ Discord:

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I got my dick sucked by a guy a few days ago and I felt kind of disgusted with myself afterwards but I also liked it during the act

I guess I'm bisexual but I'm a very masculine dude, high test out the wazoo

>>128285429
Because homosexuality isn't genetic...

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>>128288948
Is the boy fucking a rabbit while he is being diddled by an old faggot?!

>>128300139
How did that happen?

>>128300908
he literally messaged me on a dating app saying he wanted to suck my dick and within 2 hours he was doing it

>>128301141
Wow, that's romantic! And you just said yes and now you are disgusted with yourself, but you enjoyed it? Fascinating! Tell me more! Did you cum in his mouth?

>>128285429
Be cause it keeps reoccurring. Also it's not inborn genetically, it is actively sought at the free will of the vagrant.

>>128285429
what about all the other strange philias? they were all useful to us right? because we need an intimate connection to look after little children or to repair a car or stop deforestation. Makes sense!

redpill: The human mind is malleable and many things can go wrong. Homosex is one of them.

>>128285429
Because it's caused by kikes raping our kids

>>128285429
same reason so many people have bad eyes

who the fuck knows?

>>128286544
>3. Homosexuality may be a competitive advantage in itself, in that families end up with an extra helping hand to manage its affairs, spend more time working and providing, or helping raise the children, without being distracted by their own
asex is better for this
the gay uncle theory is deductive reasoning

>>128285429
Because it's not genetic. It's a disorder that manifests largely due to hormonal imbalance and psychological trauma.

>>128286604
yeah but they don't pass their seed on so it dies with them making them a genetic deadend

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Homosexuality is tolerable. Gay marriage is degenerate

>>128287837
in the past people didn't really need glasses that much. It's a contemporary "illness" so there was not enough time to react

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>>128300671

Rap lyrics are getting so lazy these days

>>128289556
exactly

most psychopaths are not a genius of nature, they're just fucked up.

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>>128285429
>tfw no conservative twink bf bussy to slam on the daily

why should I even bother living, pol?

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>>128285429
because it isn't genetic

t. self aware homo

>>128286472
Fuck I'm hard.

>>128285429
The same way it hasn't selected out crohn's disease.
Evolution isn't a substitute for god it's not perfect it's just a very interesting mechanism that occasionally fails.

>>128285429
Faggotry comes from the mothers carrying of a cock fiend gene. That is why faggots all have absolute whores for mothers.

This gene is passed down to the son in some cases.

Lesbians aren't real.

>>128292044
>boy
he was 27 when they married

>>128303191
my mother is not a whore, she is conservative (and racist, she told my sister not to ever date black people), she almost threw me out of house when she found few pictures of guys on my pc.

>>128285429
Humans are subjected to evolution any longer. Does city rules and construction seem to you like natural evolution? Humans get born to be taught human ways, not exploring ways to survive in nature.

>>128285429
The same reason evolution hasn't selected cancer out of the gene pool?
Evolution/survival of the fittest only goes so far anon it's random chance not an intelligent picker. Bad traits can still get through fine.