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what would be the undeniable and logical denial argument against pic related ?
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>>128258923
Many countries borders lie along natural borders, rivers, oceans, mountains.
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>>128258923
It is impractical to design borders in such a way as that they would be seen from space. I don't see how failing to do so refutes a school of political theory.
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>>128258923
I see borders- Water, mountains, rivers. These obstacles and the influence they have can't be denied.
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>>128258923
well when you try to protect your offspring and your culture against ordes of sub-human beings that want privileges without contributing just causing trouble, borders are kind of useful
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i dont see any houses in the image, therefore houses arent real
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>>128258923
WHY STOP THERE WHY NOT GROUP THE WHOLE FUCKING GALAXY TOGETHER
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Should we let shitloads of terrorists into 1st world countries just because the planet doesn't have natural land borders?
Hint: No
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>>128258923
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Were we all Earthlings then there would be no law. And the creatures without law live by kill-or-be-killed. Eventually societies would form that form laws around their agreed morals. Eventually those societies would put up fences, borders. That would be defended with deadly force to protect those within and what they believe is right. And we'd be right back here.
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>>128258923
put your money where your mouth is and invite everyone into your home.
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Tribalism
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>>128258923
Zoom into the border between mexico and that country under it
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Why not just have sex in public? Why would you bother restricting someone from watching you have sex? Are you an authoritarian dictator!?
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>>128258923
Earth is flat.
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>>128259144
This. Also deserts, jungles, islands, mountain ranges are all visible in the picture.
>I can't see x therefore x is unnatural
It's a shit argument. I can't see any humans in the picture, so fuck human rights, ya?
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>>128258923
Human beings are not purely altruistic, they are naturally tribal. Therefore, you need to protect yourself and your community from outsiders.
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>>128259144
>see
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>>128259342
>Can't see New Zealand in this pic so this guy is fake.
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>>128258923
I can't see ideas or concepts from a satellite image of earth therefore they don't exist
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>>128258923
a small community is better managed and therefore more efficient than a large community.
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>I don't see any bacteria, do you?
>Fuck antibiotics, we are all cells
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>>128258923
>give it a spin around
>giant fucking wall on other side
Do you own a globe?
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>>128258923
I don't see any earthlings either
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>>128258923
In few houndred years when we discover life on other planets will post pictures of milky way and some shit like "I dont see any borders. Fuck the word aliens, we are all Milky Wayers"
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>>128258923
Interesting. I don't see any gay rights of women's rights either.
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>>128259469
>Eventually those tribes unite, creating a country (that's what happened in England)
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>>128259144
See
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Historically, people have developed different cultures, with various customs and moral systems. This has led to people from the same culture having common interests, and people from different cultures having opposing interests.
Borders protect people from the conflicts that follow from different cultures coming into contact with each other.
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>>128259234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyt9twUSf1w
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i see a border between ocean water and land. also a boarder protecting earth from space.
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>>128258923
Here's an argument:
>Being proud of where you were born is stupid as you had no control over it
Are gays/blacks/asians/trannies/some other faggot group the left caters to allowed to be proud of being so? If so you acknowledge people can have pride for things they have now control over
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>>128258923
I don't see any mudslimes
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I can't see the atoms or molecules on the person in front of me, so why can't I walk through them?
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I don't see any houses, do you? Fuck sovereignty, we are all Londoners.
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>>128258923

I can clearly see continents and in every continent I can differentiate certain geographical locations.
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>>128258923
Fuck off Pixy.
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>>128259676
As a matter a fact, fuck continental shit too, I'm a Londoner too.
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>>128259535
that's when it all went downhill.
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mh
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>>128258923
You wouldn't give a cat the right to vote, would you? Well why would you give it to a nigger then?
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>>128258923
There wouldnt be a logical and undeniable argument against that statement. Only a revelation that the people on this board are ultimately small-minded and short-sighted.

The real final redpill is that if we do not start trying to colonize other worlds, such as the moon and Mars, we will not only have failed our civilization, but our entire species. And we will become trapped onto this mudball floating in space, trapped by our ever growing power structures that continue to cement themselves as times goes on, and useless ideologies that become more mindless over time, as we scream into the void of darkness, never reaching our true full potential as a species, as conquerors of worlds.

And every single ideology that stands in the way of getting off of this planet is a detriment to our entire species. The only reason why they want to keep you here is to control you.
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>>128258923
Nation comes from latin "natio": born.

Nations are a biologically universal, basic form of social human organization. It's the anthropological superstructure to "family", another biologically universal basic form of human organization. It's just the way humans have organized for hundreds of thousands of years.

A family grows, a tribe forms: they share a common core of values and language (cultural memes) and genes. The nation shares a way of life, a way of understanding the world, that is bound to the ecological niche, the territory, where they develop. This is as deeply innate to humans as language or imagination is. As family.

Modern humans have been here for 200,000 years. Do a google search for the historical evolution of global population: you'll find you're living in the apex of times. Human population is out of control. And it's no coincidence, it correlates with the birth of "postmodern culture": industry, economy, technology, urbanism. Enter globalism and post-modernism: all the values that were important for the evolution of humankind are being deconstructed (post-modernist lingo for "destroyed"). No races, no genders, no nations, no family. The globalist banking elite is deploying all its memetic weapons in order to substitute natural human cultures with a new -fake- global culture.

They're introducing these new ideological categories into your mind in order to turn you into consumerist drone who acts as a weapon in their war against the most basic --and evolutionarily determined-- forms of human organization: the family. Why do they want to destroy the family? Same reason they want to destroy all self-governing nations: to create a world of individualistic, degenerate, brainless consumers; of slaves that aren't able to even conceptualize they're slaves, so obsessed by the false identity categories they've been fed that they will never be able to raise their eyes, organize, and become a true challenge for their tyrannical power.
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>>128258923

That's why we must build The Wall so we can clearly see the borders.
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>>128258923
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I can't tell the difference between ocean water and drinking water just by looking at them from afar, why can't I drink the ocean?
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>>128258923
I don't see any humans or other animals in the OP picture either. So get rid of all humans and animals too?
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>>128258923
>what would be the undeniable and logical denial argument against pic related ?
governments
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1. Must everybody learn, share, and comply with common underlying axiomatic value structures? (Freedom of speech, divine human life, etc.)

If so,

2. Who is going to dictate the underlying common values?
3. What will be done with those who do not comply? What if Islam doesn't comply?

If not,

4. What would stop a dissenting group from becoming too powerful and creating for themselves a nation with borders?
5. How is this not just a plan to end Western superiority, which should therefore be discarded like radical islam or communism?
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>>128259852
>natio comes from the latin
Well, the term natio was not used until some time in to the early middle ages.
Nations are an ideological concept, i wont say they are a construct but people didnt have the idea of a nation "since the beginning" and definitely not the idea of a nation state
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>>128258923
Marriage is also a created concept. Can I fuck your wife?
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I know where the borders are and I can see them on that picture. I can however not see any animals on that picture, does that mean that there aren't any?
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>>128258923
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>>128258923
Move to the Congo then. It's all just planet Earth right?
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>>128258923
animals who mark their terretories
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>>128259455
Best one so far.
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>>128260384
That was not my point. Romans* used "natio/nationis" to designate the offspring of a person or an animal, the litter, and by extension to a large group of people or animals who were bound by the place of birth. I was just pointing out the biological "father/mother-children"/"progenitor-progeny" relationship that's implicit in the term.

*And also other Latin speaking peoples, and even many Romance languages today: f.i. Spanish "nación" is synonym to "nacimiento", which also means "the act of being born". The same archetypal semantic field is also present in other words that refer to the same concept: "patria" (fatherland), for instance.

>>128260384
>>The term natio was not used until some time in to the early middle ages
This is objectively false:

https://ispan.waw.pl/journals/index.php/ch/article/view/ch.2016.002
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>>128259144
I do not care that you misspelled "Sea" because you are my brother and i love you
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>>128258969
Many natural borders run through countries as well though. The US is split by mountain ranges and rivers, but it's still one nation.
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There is only one race. The bolshevik race
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>>128258923
No border? The atmosphere’s friction upon re-entry generates so much heat that the air itself turns into a 3000F plasma. Greatest border ever, stupid fucks.
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>>128261991
Nation in the modern sense of political meaning is a (pre)modern term
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>>128262138
uh oh over the dunaj you go monkeyshit
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>>128258923
sage and report commie faggotry shill 1 post by this id fagbait shit
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>>128258923
>Floats into space because no atmosphere to hold me down
>I never left the planet but my perception of reality has shifted so greatly, we are the universe now
>When you don't have to travel anywhere because you're already there
SCIENCE HAS GONE TOO FAR
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>>128258923
peoples necessitate borders, not geography, that's why a lot of borders are human-sized - like rivers, mountains, they are borders to us, so they became borders
go kill yourself you fucking nigger jew shareblue cunt
i will cut your face off one day
sage and report
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>>128258923
Why do you have borders around your own house? Stop locking your doors, you evil shitlord.
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>>128259002
this is a good one
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>>128258923
Native Americans used to say something similar.
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>>128258923
Enslavement of other races throughout the entirety of humanity.
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>>128258923
>borders are stupid fuck nazis xD
>colonialism was the worst crime in history, white people should never left europe!
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>>128262195
Yeah, but as I said -and if you read my original post again- that is not my point. I'm not arguing for the modern political meaning. I'm arguing for the inherent anthropological roots of the concept, and why they are being under attack/deconstruction by modern cultural theorists.
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You build walls not because you hate those outside but because you love those inside.
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>>128258923
I don't either Hans.

Think il take a stroll down to Austria, then maybe Poland, i hear its nice over there.
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>>128258923
why would you
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>>128259524
Underappreciated jew
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>>128261991
Ius Sanguinis, amiright.
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>>128262519
I dont think anyone gives a fuck about its 2000 year old meaning, least of all deconstructivists
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>>128262473
no they didnt
they didnt have a society
still in hunter-gatherer phase
they didnt even invent the wheel or metal tools
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>>128258923
Borders are designed around the people's culture.
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>>128258923
the pacific, atlantic and for that matter any body of water have proofen to be very effective borders
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>>128263015
Irony is that you can see the Rio Grande river which serves as the Mexican/American border in this picture.
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>>128258923
Xenomorphobes BTFO !
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>>128258923
My God! You've convinced me! Now the Syrians can just as easily emigrate to Japan, Hawaii, Australia and any other island nation since water now no longer is practically different from land.
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>>128258923
mankind is 5000+ years from being earthlings.
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If you note that many royal families throughout history have practised fratricide and have often had secret liaisons.

I argue that we already do treat each other like earthlings. And its just common earthling practise to hate and despise each other. Also i must admit that we are almost afraid of ourselves as we are of each other.
"Nations" in the 21st century is more like a ritual or a game to make sense of our fears and hatreds.
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>>128258923
Open borders basically ruins a peoples cultural identity. It can cause war, an example is the crisis in Syria. The rule of law isn't going to be upheld by many of these refugees. Because when you think about it these people are used to seeing people killed or hands cut off for stealing. They themselves probably have raped or killed people because the law in their land isn't as advanced as a country such as the USA. When you invite people like that to people who are very soft like Americans who, in all honesty, are pretty nice in general. They will be taken advantage of or go into situations that will get themselves raped or killed because they can't understand the people they let in would do such a thing.

Anyways... borders have always existed in every country. Those who have no borders are basically fucked lmao
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>>128258923
If there are no borders anyway and we're all the same, why would anyone have a problem with colonialism?

Hit them where it hurts
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>>128262791
I'm afraid this stuff goes way over your head. Move along.

>>128262775
Exactly.

Fathers and mothers take care of their offspring. Families take care of each other. Nations are brotherhoods, made of daughters and sons born of the same cultural father. Globalism wants to destroy nations precisely because they want you alone, helpless and rootless. They need you to focus on the material minutia of their consumerist scheme, unable to organize and resist. The negation of your nation is the negation of your family, your cultural and genetical father, of your very soul. Of your blood.

That's what the katabasis, the mythological archetype of the hero rescuing his father/mother/spouse from the underworld, means.
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>>128258923
Reality. Don't agree? Fine, give me the shirt on your back then, and your computer. My friend will be living in your backyard now too. It's a shared planet maaaan.
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>>128263015
>>128263125
What about the phillipines, or other island chains or archipelios like the isle of man.
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>>128259304
Have you met the lefties? They'd agree with you as long as it's not between a natural male and female.
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>>128259883
nice rare negative space pepe
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You can see borders
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>>128259852
He's right you know
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>>128263650
I think the piont that land ownership is a stupid destructive idea the only leads to wars.
And gives the person domion over it instead of it being a stewardship.

Other forms of property arent tued to your own nation, consider the silicone came from saudi arabia the micro chip came from china and was all assembeled into a computer in america.
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>>128258923
i don't see wall of china, so it doesn't exist?
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>>128258923
I am going to shit in your mouth because the whole world is my toilet.
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>>128263993
Cute!
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>>128263888
kek
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>>128263649
You ever think that they want you to love everyone instead of your own blood? Instead of isolating you.
I have seen many brken families where run aways treat there street gangs filled with caucadiod, asians, mexicans, and black as their family.

Your argument about protecting family values falls apart, and you're left with just a bunch of inbred retards.
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>>128259018
This
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>>128263520
This is wrong and you know it.
It just makes culture more accessible
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>>128263888

Giving Sinai back to Egypt was a mistake
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humans are not the only animals marking their territory
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>>128259042

I don't see any houses, do you?

Fuck comfortable living and protection against the rain!

We are all Earthlings.
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>>128262127
So? The same people live on the other side of the mountain range. Besides the US is an artificial nation.
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>>128258923
>what is Atlantis
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>>128259449
>blind
>can't see anything
>thus matter doesn't exist
>universe is a collection of voices
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>>128258923
>everyone owns everything and can go anywhere
>I don't see how that could fuck up!
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>>128264220
>ever think that they want you to love everyone instead of your own blood? Instead of isolating you.

Yes, that's exactly why mixing the blood of a nation with the blood of other nations is the same as helping to destroy the very basis of those nations, and why it's being pushed in parallel with all the other cultural subversions against the political and territorial sovereignty of nations. I don't use "family" as a synonym of nation: I said nation is the natural superstructure of family, which is very different. A nation gives its individuals the genetical diversity to make evolutionary success possible.

I also didn't imply that all nations or cultures are equal in terms of cultural value. Not all cultures or nations are under attack by post-modernist globalism. Western culture is, and that's because of the core values it upholds: those are the values that pose a threat to the globalist take-over, and that's why every genetical and cultural strategy possible is deployed in order to destroy the nature and character of those nations. That's also why the very concept of nation is questioned.
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>>128258923
>what would be the undeniable and logical denial argument against pic related ?

"I agree totally anon, and the same goes for individuals! i should be allowed to enter your home at will and fuck your wife!"
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>>128258923
I don't see any other laws there either. So are you OK with getting murdered?
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>>128259730
<<This twisted game needs to be reset!>>
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>>128258923
Globalists are retarded borders still exist its just a administrative division even in a globalist sceme. Your governor of one "state" wont be able to act in another in such capacity so there you have new borders by virtue of administrative constraints alone.

Same you have in the US or does anyone really think (((they))) would let go of their borders (even if they were arbitrary) to harass citizens crossing them? I mean alone for reasons of arms transport that shit isnt going to dissapear. The government is too interested in restricting the flow of certain goods not to do so and having a one world government makes no difference other than it focusing soley on an internal threat making any one world government an inevitable dystopian tyranny lest ayliums invade and neither kill, enslave or set up a similar proxy government.

That all said you can probably figure its gonna get pretty uncomfortable at the bottom in the future so start climbing now because upwards mobility will be heavily restricted!
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>>128258923

i want to ultrakill whoever made that

like brutally slaughter them, revive them then kill them again forever
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>>128258923
earthling sounds like some gollum coming out of the caves to lick on resources

fuck this. Not all of us are mere "earthlings"
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>>128262127
And in the US those natural borders usually split up states.
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>>128263649
Lel
>I dont have any arguments: the post
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Good thing Australia has a fucking ocean.

Boom, our borders are real, now fuck off cus we're full.

>By the logic of the pic, British colonisation is good because they were simply going somewhere already owned by them.
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Can't see air, therefore air doesn't real and we're all going to asphyxiate.
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>>128258923
That is why earthlings need to erradicate the subhuman species, starting with niggers and sandniggers
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>>128258923
I don't see any humans, do you?
Fuck humans
I'm an idiot.

>I can't see something. Means it is not real.

Listen snowflake, no on said that borders we actual physical boundaries. But we can 100% say that all creatures set territorial boundaries against each other. This is to maintain dominance and protect themselves. We have borders for a reason. If we didn't the world would be a much more dangerous place.
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>>128258923
Dont fucking worry
Trumps wall will be visible from space
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>>128259144
>see
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>>128258923
Scengen remove the borders in Europe because with no subhumans you need no
borders, but then the niggers and sandniggers came and started to fuck everything, then
people realized that they need borders again.
Then brexit happened
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>>128258923
Cockroaches are earthlings too, lets give them rights.
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>>128258923
>free thought project
>FUCK YOUR WAY OF THINKING

Really makes you think
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Yep, one big fucking border. Fuck off, we're full...
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>>128258923
I don't see any rights, do you?

Fuck liberalism, you are all my property.
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>>128258923

if you have no borders, then all laws are the same, and everything is the same

thus

THERE IS NO DIVERSITY.
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