I was just reading this: >The distinction is made because

>>128185290
China's production is largely for export. By importing goods from China, other countries simultaneously export the emissions required to produce them.

Whoever believes the US is to blame for climate change should be thrown in guantanamo

>>128185290
You won't see anyone address it on here because everyone in here sucks Donald Trump's cheeto shit caked asshole

>>128186332
See, like this guy... Let's throw people that don't agree with daddy trump in Guantanamo

>>128185290
If the number includes total greenhouse gases, this doesn't surprise me given the US and how much beef we produce. Methane is more prevalent than CO2. But due to the incredible inequality in China (with the whole free economic zones on the coast and the rural villages in the interior) I don't think per capita is a very good way to measure it. If adjusted for GDP, measure of economic activity makes sense because it can loosely tell you how efficient our companies are at handling emissions, which is ultimately more important when determining company regulations. If companies in China are incredibly inefficient, but are let off the hook because there is an incredible mass of people that still live in countrysides, then regulation should take that into account.

The OPs image is very similar in style to others I've seen posted on here.

Is this a ShariaBlue meme?

>>128185290
Technically true. The standard of living in china does also vary greatly. There are areas in 3rd world conditions. There are also ghost cities. However if we can take into account that China cheats, then how do we know the data is accurate? Also did the Paris Climate agreement award CO2 privileges based on population? Are other co2 sources being considered (like I don't know every carbon based population)?

But don't worry the science is settled, anyone with half a brain can name the experiment that proves all this.

>>128186823
>BP oil executive

>>128186391
Trump trump trump.. Are you sure you took your meds today?

>>128185290
It's developing countries which are going to be harmed, and yet we are going to pay the bill. Really makes me think...

Given how globalists are already shilling the UN to have people dislocated due to "food security" reasons considered as refugees, there is no longer any surprise they are pushing that climate change is our fault. It all fits.

>>128185290
Earth doesn't care what per capita carbon emissions are

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>>128187168
I've read the thread now.

>>128187294
>Are you sure you took your meds today?

Ready to throw sane people who follow scientific facts in prison...

>>128186636
Yeah cuz theyre usually globalist shills looking to harm America like you

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>>128187713
>scientific facts
(((((facts)))))

>>128187700
Anyone who opposes me is a shill... SAD!

>>128185290
Your premise posited by the image is retarded. It could be that obscenely rich people are at the top of the left side of the chart. The fact that your image excludes that possibility is all I need to know that you are wrong and talking to you is a waste of time.

>>128187771
Lol... Looks like it's big oil trying to protect their obscene profits at the cost of the environment

>>128185290
developed countries = imperial core
developing countries = imperial periphery
It's about how much the imperial core can suck out of the imperial periphery while their own (((accounts))) are squeaky clean. Just the usual vidya for the ruling class, nothing to see here.

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>>128185290
The one on the left makes more sense, because oil industry profits are hardly "obscene."

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>>128186718
100% this

But, in the end, man-made global warming is a hoax. There is only pollution and CO2 is not a pollutant.

>>128185290
>regional environmental groups and community activists
More like globalists who control governments and have so much wealth they make oil CEOs look like 14 year olds working at their first weekend job washing cars by comparison

90 percent of scientists do not agree. This is BIG lie. Accordingly to a recent survey of the American meteorological association it was only around 54% You can't get much further away from consensus than that.

>>128185290
Per capita doesn't make any sense. Comparing emissions to GDP does since most emissions come from economic output (i.e. industry). China and India are both shit-tier on that list.

>>128187700
god, fuck you for creating/posting an image that misspells "you're"

you turn ppl away instantly, you dumbass

>>128185290

>climate scientists jobs are not at stake if agw isn't real

>>128188718
Jesus Christ, give the guy a break man...

>>128186823
Op is probably a DNC shill, that alone doesn't mean he's wrong though.

>>128188355
Relative to the size of energy concerns, the inelasticity of demand for their product, and the near-complete absence of political risk, those profits are better than healthy.

>>128185290
I'm involved in the climate science community, but anyone in academia will know what I'm talking about. That chart is bullshit.

What happens is that 90% of people in academia in the climate science/atmos science fields shouldn't be there and aren't qualified for academic work. They produce 3rd rate papers and get them published by pushing the climate change meme in order to seem relevant.

>>128187771
Are you implying climate change is not a problem? Are you clinically retarded?

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wish wed stop rewarding shitskins for breeding

>>128188355
Are you outta your mind? Net profits may be low but gross profits are huge.

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>>128189302
>the US is rich they can pay for it! Give us gibs!

Kill yourself faggot

>>128189302
Yes, he has down syndrome I'm afraid... We should be praising him for just being able to post... Quite sad:(

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>>128185290
Basically, global warming denialism boils down to this:

>The government says X, therefore X cannot be correct

CAPTCHA: FLOODING COLONIAL

>>128189302
It's literally not. GHG's aren't even the main reason for our warming. Ask me anything and I'll try to answer

>t. atmos sciencefag

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Someone please post the Chink pollution pics, the contaminated rivers and stalker-tier skyes.

I only have shitty gore

>>128189558
this is a case of libertarian hicks being correct for once by chance

>>128189537
You dont even understand the agreement faggot. Do some reading first then come back before you spew a bunch of smug nonsense you know nothing about

>>128189684
Ok I'll bite... I'll ask you anything... Did mommy or daddy get you the science play kit you're pretending to be a scientist with?

>>128189815
Lol didn't know retards were capable of being triggered

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>>128190126
And?

>>128188411
Is this really such a bad thing? Quicker development for the developing world means quicker decrease in the fertility rate of developing world subhumans.

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Oy Vey goyim you are guilty of buying everything from China! You are destroying the earth! What, end globalism and bring manufacturing home where we have high environmental standards? Never!

>>128190366
Lol so you're just some college kid... Cute

>>128189488
>produces one of the largest sums of polluting materials of all other countries
>why do (((they))) want us to pay it back, huh, what are you, a KEK!?
we at least have the responsibility of cleaning up our own space for the future of the American people, let alone the world

>>128190522
what's the MJO and how does it impact climate? I bet you don't know and yet LARP as if you somehow understand how GHG's affect anything.

>>128190340
Fuck the developing world. They'll fuck it up anyway

>>128190522
Mommy wont pay for college huh? Sorry sport. you'll get there in a few years (you're 12 right?)

>>128190684
I applaud your computer skills little downs boy:)

>>128190786
Oooh so mommy and daddy both got you the science kit (((college)))

>>128190450
this, they want pollution to stop, but aren't able to confront the truth that economic globalization is the cause, not to mention that the Paris accords restrictions are laughably loose and fail to address a big part of water pollution: mines

>>128185290

>green energy was a big meme
>everyone invests in renewable resources and green energy
>government can increase taxes and get more money

Sounds very similar to the image on the right

>>128185290
It's not a massive conspiracy, just the nature of science. If you want to continue research and getting paid, you need to produce results. What kind of funding is a climatologist going to get if he determines that climate change is a non issue?

>>128185290
A scare industry worth an annual $1.5 trillion has been built on the notion that anthropogenic CO2 is responsible for unprecedented and catastrophic changes to the world’s climate. Yet the scientists promoting this hypothesis are a fairly small, closed shop who validate one another’s work in a process which has been nicknamed ‘pal review’ and whose response to criticism from dissidents is to bully them, smear them and have them denied access to mainstream science journals.

China lies.

There is no oversite for them, they can say whatever they want. Also rural parts of china have no infrastructure that uses fossil fuels meaning their "per capita" isn't accurate because only a small portion of their country is civilized enough to be on the grid or use machines!

>>128185290
>the green mafia isnt a thing
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/352878/green-mafia-kevin-d-williamson

>>128191322
India is in the middle of Electrification, so when that's done their per capita rate will sky rocket.

>>128185290
>So, on a per capita basis, the United States in 2015 produced more than double the carbon dioxide emissions as China -- and eight times more than India.
>therefore the US should pay cash money to India and China to further industrialize without any regulations
Great logic.

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>90% of the worlds CLIMATE scientists.

Guys, guys I think we can all agree that all scientific data is predicated on the belief the earth is round. However, if the world is FLAT then all current climate science data would be wrong.

So really you guys are just being stupid.

>>128185290

>be elon musk
>billionaire
>have huge shares in renewable resources/green energy
>also donates to universities/places that conduct research

Goes both ways

Only difference is the current state of renewable resources/green energy production is extremely likely to be obsolete relatively quickly, meaning the investors, politicians, and lobbyists will make a bunch of money out of it and proceed to reap more rewards when the next generation of green energy rolls around so you have to replace their old gadgets with their new ones

Exactly how apple and other companies make their money, peddling shit that'll be inferior soon so you have to buy the next biggest thing

Meanwhile nuclear has the same potential, but whatever you build/use will have more longevity before we create our own suns out of dark matter

But fall for the muh wind energy meme that'll benefit billionaires

>>128191719
>falling for the dark matter meme

>>128186332
I believe the world is unable to combat climate change unless the US also takes part. Of course, China will have to as well. It only takes one country not regulating to have everyone move their factories there and then a world's worth of carbon dioxide is still produced

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>>128191719
>before we create our own suns out of dark matter
Why do that when we can make a DYSON SPHERE

>>128190907
But what should disturb us almost more, I think, is the broader problem that generation after generation of impressionable kids are now paying good money — and expecting good jobs afterwards — to study pure, unmitigated, mind-warping drivel.

>>128191863

>not wanting to create a nuclear reactor out of dark matter that explodes and transports all the trannies niggers mudslimes and commies to another dimension

>>128188411
"Don't trust quotes on the internet" - Adolph Hitler

Once the world finally sheds this RIDICULOUS round earth belief then finally we can be to make the correct scientific models to combat the coming global ice age.

>>128192687
He was right. Hitler was so smart.

>>128185290
Westerners consume energy like pigs then bitch about china and india.

>>128188718
Blow it out your ass

>>128192454
Dark matter is just an imaginary fudge factor for incomplete mathematical models.

>>128191246
>What kind of funding is a climatologist going to get if he determines that climate change is a non issue?

Exactly. thats why they keep pushing it. to get more money. you just answered your own question dumbass

>>128189302
Are you implying the US should tank its economy to save the environment singlehandedly while china keeps dumping FEV supersoldier fetuses in the ocean

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>>128193599
The difference is that you dont have an EPA. (Literally) given the infrastructure (which is what the Paris accord was written to fund) you'd cconsume just as much, if not more.

>>128185290
That picture...

Those are strawman arguments.

> Does this make sense to you!?!?!?!

> - The poor homeless man
> - Does a round the world trip in a jet
> - to trick everyone into giving him change
> - Not even spent on the environment
> - Ptsssh get real people!!!

Just like Hollywood want to retain its position of influence on the general mass.
Or a political party.
Or a world power to influence the world.

They utlize and saturate global warming as an argument for unrelated courses of action.

One of those is to get Muslims into Europe and push salafism/wahabism so that the Saudis can carry on blackmailing the world for keeping the oil prices high/ not pulling as much out of the ground while also having influence on the world via influencing/ part owning Europe.

Stop for a second and think. NONE of this economic activity has to actually exist, technically.

It is about WHERE money is invested. For whose benefit?

The "big oil companes" are just the staff. The owners/investors are the important people.
People get layed off ALL THE TIME.

America was trotting into space and more and more and more people could have been involved until the economy altered into the simple minded consumerist mess that it has become.

>>128193599
India is fucking disgusting. The nerve of you pieces of shit blaming us, just because that's what you're told. Clean up your fucking shit, clean up your piece of shit country, then maybe we'll talk in 50 years

>>128189339
I don't get it.
What is the explanation for asia? How is africa going to do this when they have no food / facilities to support their current population?

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>>128194446
Clearly the Asians will colonize africa since they'll be immune to cries of racism and western colonialism.

>>128194389
fuck you burger and fuck your country and fuck your 2 mommies and 2 daddies, go suck a nigger's dick like your sister does.

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>>128195003
lol your country is disgusting and infested with disease and subhuman pieces of shit. Sorry, I didn't do it to your country. Just take responsibility faggot

>>128195003
He's right. India is a shithole. Other than the bits we stole and forced you to grow tea on.

>>128185675
Together with half of their fucking economy.

>>128195127
Its also the 2nd most populated country in the world. More population = more disgusting

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>>128195147
very loyal

>>128195003
[TRIGGERED POO]

>>128185290
Left is anti nuke that would be the oil lobby. You are the oil lobby.

>>128190907
Its ok that youre too young to use 4chan. Try again in several years. Or kill yourself. I dont care which

>>128185290

(((carbon credits)))

>>128185290
The people on the right have a shit ton of money and they earned every fucking penny of it
>The ones on the left have a shit ton of money but pretend they don't and they hate people who earn money

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>>128195782
You have lost weight.

>>128195643
lolwut? The British rule the USA. Every single US President has been of British heritage, even the brown one. Now, isn't it about time you got back to picking my assam?

>>128189684
What happens to all the CO2 created by burning fossil fuels?

It took millions of years to store that carbon, where did it go since its not back in the ground?

>>128185290
China is so polluted Chinese pollution gets exported to the bay area and contributes about a third of the pollutants.

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>>128196100
muh british heritage

>>128185290
>>128185290
The thing about China and India and other developing nations is that they are still developing into post-industrial societies like we have in the west so we should be more lenient towards them polluting as long as they are also committed towards going green in the future.

>>128196505
lol you have a fucking border with pakistan.

gg fgt

>>128196717
>lenient
That's not a synonym for paying them money to eventually ignore a non binding agreement. Ultimately the problem of India and China is that the globalists are using them as slaves.

>>128197001
>lol you have a fucking border with pakistan.
His flag doesn't look like he lives in London tbqh...

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>>128186332
the same goes to anyone in the Western World. The west implemented clean air laws in the early 1970's and that's why when you can step outside and see rhe sky on a sunny day and in China and India you can't (pic related)

>>128194389
THIS

>>128196717
this is ridiculous

what makes the most sense :

anyone with a brain believes climate change is real

'deniers' are just people who can't say publicly that the death of millions in overpopulated 3rd world shitholes and submerging of most liberal coastal cuckold colonies is a good thing and we should accelerate it

>>128185290
Who cares? They produce more as a country and half their population has never seen a car.

>>128197194
>>128198215
I don't agree with it that's just their logic.

>>128188458
I would love a source on this, would be so helpful

>>128197779
Good job those "clean air" acts already did to the environment yet retards still want to waste more money to do it again

>>128196717
Don't more developed/industrialized countries produce more pollution than underdeveloped ones? This would only exacerbate the problem in the long run

>>128187168
T. A jew

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>>128185290
>community activists
>not people high up in government using near-on endless public money

Tell me this, who pays the salaries of professors? The oil companies or the government?

>>128185290
>China (but not India) does produce more carbon dioxide than the United States, but it has nearly 1.4 billion people compared to 325 million for the United States. So, on a per capita basis, the United States in 2015 produced more than double the carbon dioxide emissions as China -- and eight times more than India.

so what you are saying is, if we can import 1.2 million refugees then instead of paying $100bn we will be moved to the developing countries list and be eligible to RECEIVE $100bn?

>>128202028
1.2 billion refugees excuse me

>>128187700
>this image of people blatantly pretending to be shills for laughs is proof of shills
You're playing yourselves.

>But I want to know how many of those 1.4 billion people are the ones actually producing the CO2

all of them

human beings constantly spew carbon dioxide and methane

The Earth doesnt really give a shit about per capita so it is a little misleading

The more relevant fact in play here is that China has ambitions and plans to reduce its pollution, and the US is still bickering over whether or not global warming is even real - regardless of what the current state of things is, the future looks better for China IMO and thats what counts

>>128203906
Being this retarded.

China is fucking disgusting

>>128202523
>implying shills dont exist