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http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/01/ny-ca-and-wa-say-theyre-sticking-to-paris-deal-after-trump-backs-out.html

What now, /pol/, you hypocritical basement dwelling retards. God Emperor is being challenged by the States. Will he send in the Federal Govt like the authoritarian clown he is, or just shit his pants? Find out on the next episode of the Trumps.
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And so the Planet Alliance was born. They would not submit to the evil emperor's demands to 'pollute or die'
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>>128078181

Trump has always been for states rights.
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These states produce nothing of course they don't give a fuck.
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>>128078181

The fuck are you sperging about? That's why States exist. If their constituents want to force that garbage on themselves, let them have it.
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>>128078181
>civil war 1 was fought over slavery
>civil war 2 is going to be fought over global warming

Fuck me what a direction this country is heading
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>>128078403
And so 7D chess
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>>128078419
>These states produce nothing of course they don't give a fuck.
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Liberal hell holes will raise their taxes while real America doesn't. Cool.
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>>128078181
None of this would have happened if we had elected Faith Spotted Eagle.
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>>128078181
Lets see what the voters in NY, WA and CA think of sending all that money to the UN with no vote in the Senate and in the State senates think.

The dems really want to lose more seats, don't they?
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>>128078419
New York and California produce plenty.
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>>128078640
>Dems will lose seats in NY, WA and CA
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If they want to spend their money subsidizing niggers, so be it

Just don't make the other states carry that shit
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>>128078181
>Trump making the left care about states rights
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STATE POWER WHOOO
BASED TRUMP
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>>128078760
Possibly, especially California.
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>>128078721
A lot of lumber comes from Washington.
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>>128078419
i hate california and even i know they produce shitloads.
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>Welfare states that have always run a deficit will continue to increase that deficit

Wow makes you think

I Wonder what the richies of upstate new york will do though
They actually could secede and turn new york into two states
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>>128078181
Stick to fapping OP. You're just not witty enough to matter.
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>>128078907
If they produce so much why can't they produce fresh water?
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>>128078181
States can't make treaties with foreign governments. This is more of that r/esist faggotry that people eat up. You faggots are the birthers of the left.
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I'm from Commiefornia, I stand with the Man who takes two scoops. Fuck errone else.
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>>128078994
When will the Star Wars references end?
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>>128078181
someone answer why the fuck twitter verifies literally whos
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>>128078181
honostly i think this is good.
i mostly support trump but i never really agreed with his views on climate control.
and since new york and washington are probably the biggest producers of greenhouse gasses in the states, i cant fault this.
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>>128078999

communism
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>>128078721
Yes. They produce plenty of fucking idiots like yourself
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>hurr durrr muh states rights imma leave da Union


Good fucking luck LMAO
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>>128078181
hope he fucks my state up
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Wow it's almost like this is how the Founding Fathers intended America to work, where each state can do what they think is most important without fucking over the other states when they're wrong.
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If you're against this, you're a fucking faggot. States should have the right to do what the fuck they want, you Yankee niggers.
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>>128078181
>liberal states will pay higher taxes and the rest of us will laugh at their stupidity.
Where's the downside here?
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>>128078419
lol it's the red hick states that are the welfare states you dumb Trumpcuck
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>>128078181
i dont understand, are they going to be sending india and china the billions?
If theyre not then WTF are they talking about the payments were the problem.
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>>128078760
As a new Yorker don't remind me. At the very least everyone hates Deblasio so we may get a conservative mayor
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>>128078441
WHAT A TWEEST
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>>128078181
What's the problem? If those states choose to follow the agreement, then that's fine. It's not like the Paris agreement does fuckall; it's literally just a purely voluntary agreement to try to lower your emissions.
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It'd be nice if the citizens of such states, y'know, were allowed to vote on it to see if they agree with being taxed more to prop up climate propaganda.

But, I guess I'm crazy like that.
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>>128079216
>>128079260

>each state can do whatever they want

AHAHAHAHAH no
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>>128078721

>jew york

>making any thing

>california

>niggs cant even produce fresh water
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>>128079322
>lol it's the red hick states that are the welfare states you dumb Trumpcuck
Those states have more blacks in them
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>>128079387
They have state legislatures, and it's far far easier to replace them than it is a congressperson.
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>>128078922
Lol No, All those stares produce surpluses, especially California.

Most red states are moochers (albeit because they're filled with niggers)
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>>128078181
Lol with what money? These states already owe more than they bring in
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>>128078441
>when a group of no lifes form a new political movement based on repeating numbers and frog gods from centuries ago and manged to influence an election and lead to new words and new wars being created every day
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>>128078181
Where were they when Obama signed the US tax payer onto the Paris Accord without any input from Congress as defined by the constitution? Oh that's right, in the closet fingering each others communisms and taking hot loads of socialism all over their faces.
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>>128079322
lol it's the blue cities that are welfare cities, dumbfuck
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>>128079304
California has had stricter environmental regulations than the rest of the US for over 2 decades now and is currently one of the fastest growing states in terms of economy, one of the few that has pulled US growth since the recession
>>128079333
No, they're going to voluntarily abide by the emissions standards recommended in the treaty
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>>128078181
>States do something totally legal
>Hurr will the federal government invade

I'm not an alt-right faggot, but I'm not so dumb that I think Trump is an authoritarian like Erdogan. He's just a dumb old man in over his head.
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Has Trump backed out of it yet? The MSM kept reporting that he had yesterday, even though he had not made a decision.
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>>128078419
>Has no idea that all the blue states are sponging off the liberal ones
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>>128079333

Can we get a source for this please? I've been through the site for the accord and read the bill over and I can't find any list that clearly defines which countries are considered to be developing and which are not.
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>>128079025
Lets trash our only planet because it's contrarian! Epic win epic win!
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>>128079124
They're B O T S

Guess they dont have william lecuck anymore so now they have to resort to some random spic name
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>>128078419
California's agricultural output dwarfs that of any other state -- they grow over half the country's food, including over 1/3 of our vegetables and over 2/3 of our fruit and nuts.

I wish there was some way you could be banned from voting... and reproducing... and voicing your opinion publicly.
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>>128079518
Are you fucking retarded

They havent turned a profit in 30 years
California was still in a monetary deficit even at the height of the Dot.Com Era
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128079374
>voluntary agreement
Ehhhh.... You're in for a rude awakening friend.
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>>128078760
We are just getting started.
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>>128079260

Look what happens when you give states individual rights; Some are the most patriotic while others are communist shitholes literally trying to destroy this country

Fuck you and your shitty country you abhorrent cunt
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>>128078181

Nice.

>>128078403

Nice.
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>>128079124
Let me go and say hello to (((Suzdaltsev))) on twatter
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>>128079576
Half of all businesses in California have left for other states... How is that growth? Lol jesus bro youre fuckin stoopid
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>>128078181
>States entering into foreign treaties

Honestly didn't think civil war 2.0 would start this way guys...

SEND IN THE ARMY
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more money for the lone star
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States really should do their own thing, Trump is the leader we need.
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>>128079635
the bills impossible to read, as soon as you think your going to get to some info it sites another document.
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>>128079689
I am taking about production that requires a lot of emissions you dumb fuck.
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If states don't want to be polluted shit holes, they can do it themselves. The federal government doesn't need to get involved.
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>>128079160

fucking lulz
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>>128079809
You'll pay more on your shit just like you do on your cars because producers have to access the CA and NY markets, dipshit
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2nd Civil War when?
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>>128079635
http://www.greenclimate.fund/partners/contributors/resources-mobilized
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>>128078181
So they're going to send billions of dollars to China and India to help them "go green"? Ok liberals. Ok.
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>>128078999
evironmental protectionism
>muh delta smelts
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>>128079762
>BAWW

Cry more, nigger.
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>>128079216

>hurr durr wot is supremasee claws?
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>>128078181
>democrats trying to secede from the union again.
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>>128078181
>States that didn't vote for Trump vote to cripple their own economies to spite him

There's that high-IQ liberal brilliance we've come to know and love.
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Good for them. I hope the residents on west coast enjoy the toxic fumes from China as they pay triple for their electricity...Enjoy cucks..
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>>128079025
>States can't make treaties with foreign governments.
this
an attempt to do so would actually be seditious
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>>128079787
Give me a source on that one friendo :)
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>>128078721
>>128078542
New York and California produce bankers and trash. This is an impotent attempt at a symbolic gesture.
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>>128078994
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>>128079787
To be fair, Palo Alto has the most draconian employment laws in the country, so it is attractive to huge corporations who need lots of slaves.
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>>128079963

Thanks anon. Completely different site than I was using, no wonder it didn't turn up on Google when searching "Paris Accord"
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>>128079689
good thing all my groceries come from texas pussy nigger
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Sweet, more focus on states that matter, like Ohio.
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>>128079911
> just like you do on your cars
Explain, because we don't pay much on cars
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>>128078181
>We're helping the environment, guys
What are they trying to prove. China and Africa are deforesting and polluting orders of magnitude greater than these cities.
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NYfag here fuck this piece of shit state. If anyone on here visits this dump kill you self. This state is run by fucking hook nosed kikes every gun law here is a fucking offense to the 2nd amendment. Red light cameras at virtually every intersection. They just forced auto places to inspect tint now cause it's scary to have anything over 5% at this point. Seriously nuke this state and wipe out the engrossing spic population that's raping Long Island
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>>128080040
planet > economy

Why conservatives can't grasp this is honestly mindblowing
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ITT people who don't understand economics and people too poor to live in California
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>>128078542
>Shareblue-Sample-COPY-0-11.jpg

At least make an effort to hide your identity. Pathetic.
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>>128078181
Big surprise here..

the most Cucked states in the nation.
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>>128079987
PAY MY BILLS FAGGOT
THE COAL WONT COKE ITSELF
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>>128079814
Now lets hope that this is his response when media ask
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>>128080117
>California GDP higher then america
lolwut, was this graph made by idorts
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>>128080241
Be careful Ohio
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>>128080117
GDP is such a fucking trash measurement

>GDP worked pretty well when the economy was still mostly farms and factories, producing things of similar quality that could easily be counted. But GDP is less suited to the task of measuring modern, service-led economies that are geared towards the quality of consumer experience, rather than consumption of greater quantities. It is far harder to identify the extent to which changes in price reflect a better service. When medical charges rise, it will generally count as inflation, even if the quality of health care is improving faster than prices are rising. And where consumers pay nothing, as is often now the case with digital services, they do not register in GDP. The consumer benefits from Google and Facebook are thus excluded.
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>>128078181
>trump do something so we declare to do the opposite!
>have never read the actual deal and completely ignore most of it include international relationships and deals with foreign industries
Yeah that will TOLD him.
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>>128079855
Banana peels count as emissions
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>>128078181
This is where I wish Trump really was a Fascist. He should send in the military and make an example of these people.
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>>128078181
This guy is up for reelection soon. I don't think he means that they will contribute to the green climate fund, but that they will curb emissions.

Thats gonna mean more cost for electric, and higher heating prices.

>never interfere when your enemy is shooting himself in the foot.
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HaHa. That is Conservatism. The States don't have to depend on the Feds to take climate actions themselves. Are they going to pay the trillions to China and India too? Those countries don't have to do anything. So-finally the socialists are getting it.
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WA has no income tax. For now...

Inslee wants to be POTUS. He won reelection and went into hiding ala HIllary. He did the first thing after his first term. He does nothing but ride the coat tails of AMZN/MSFT/SBUX/etc... Explains why he's riding on the coat tails of NY & CA - he wants to be a big boy.

Trump will roll him so hard.
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>>128080250
How fucking dumb are you

Cars are designed to meet mileage requirements set by the strictest states (Cali)

That requires cars to cost more

It doesn't matter where you live in the US, you're getting a car that was speced to pass muster in Cali and pay more because of it
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>>128079809
You're an embarassment to our state.

Companies will still follow Paris Agreement rules since they want to sell in California, NY, Europe, and Asia. Plus, all of our economically important cities will enter the agreement voluntarily.

You insult God and the State of Texas if you don't want to defend our lands. You haven't spent enough time traveling through your own homeland if you don't instinctually want to do anything to defend its natural beauty.

If Sam Houston could see how some people in our State beahve today he'd let Santa Anna keep us.
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>>128079408
Replace Calhoun with Jerry Brown
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>>128080265
>Everybody else is polluting, we should do it too!
>Everybody else is raping and murdering, we should do it too!
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>>128080273
Why can't liberals understand that Paris Agreement was not about planet but about economy?
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>>128080023
Only this time the Union soldiers will be whistling dixie. If only Jackson and Lee could be alive to see this shit show. Both would be laughing their asses off.
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>>128080359
I believe it's just measuring percent change
>>128079689
those farms could be moved anywhere.
besides, we could shut off their water
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>>128080117
that rise comes from tech companies riding a bubble
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>>128079641
paris agreement was predicated on false information
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>>128078181
>CA, NY and WA
>three liberal shitholes that would have put Dem presidents in power every time if not for the 12th Amendment

clearly they are still assmad
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>>128078994
>>128079025
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>>128078181
Let us know how bucking the federal government works out.
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>>128078181
Fucking niggers states, stop dragging me into your globalist bullshit. Fucking hell.
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>>128079260
Nobody is arguing that, you dumbfuck. They can do what they want, within the law. But the law doesn't allow them to sign treaties with other countries, and they have to answer to their constituents if they're going to hand money and sovereignty over to the UN without a vote.

But what the fuck do you know anyway? Your country is Saudi Arabia Lite.
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>>128080543
The Percentage of Carbon saved by the Paris Agreement is 0.2% in 20 years

It is with a literal sense
Throwing money
Down the toilet
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>>128080359
>delta GDP
No, you're the idiot. L2read
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>>128079963
thank fucking god we're leaving that shitshow
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>>128080359
>GDP change by percentage

Either a troll a just a plain conservatard. Hard to tell the difference desu
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>>128078181
The states have every right to do w/e they want and I think Trump would support that. When/If solar energy, standing independent of federal subsidies, is cheaper and more efficient than oil then the free market will spread solar power around the world like wildfire.

As for these dumb-ass governors and mayors they've clearly not read the deal. The US is already trending towards a "green economy" because of the free market and that will march on. The Paris agreement was all about developed countries subsidizing energy infrastructure of 3rd world shit holes so they can "modernize" without going through a period of massive carbon consumption like India/China is doing right now.

If the governors and mayors really want to "stay in the agreement" they'll need to collect together tens of billions of dollars to donate to some shit hole in Africa.
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>>128078994
He's right we're the bad guys
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>>128080543
The West isn't polluting though.
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>>128079641
You actually think the paris deal is about the environment and not extra cash flow for rich elites?
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>>128078907


...with someone else's water. Shut it down.
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>>128078181
>California says they will adhere to the Paris Accords somehow
Guess we're closing all those refineries... Oh we're not? k.
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>>128078181
>states making their own decisions
What the fuck are you whining about you insufferable retard?
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>>128080697
Throwing whose money dipshit

Why are you shilling for Jewish business owners

OY VEY GOY DONT LET THEM TAKE MY SHEKELS TO SAVE THE EARTH
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>>128079626
U fucking wot mate? I hope you're drunk posting that. Or a leaf behind 65 proxies, where blue is conservative and red is liberal.

>Inb4 pretending to be retarded
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>>128079216
No, no, no. What Dems mean when they say Cali will use its state rights to accept the Paris deal, is the entire USA should be bound by the Paris deal if California accepts it, and for the National Guard to occupy and enforce it on states that dissent
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>>128078828
This.
>Trump is subtly making liberals not want to rely on the federal government
>liberals think acting against their interests is defiance against Trump
Pottery
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>>128080268
indeed anon, just nuke us all. This state is hell. Canada worst neighbors, NYC is spic/chink/kike hell after visiting once, gun laws are shit and your only hope is local government, too many normies and chads, shit weather, I need to get out of this dumpshit of an unamerican state. The kikes are too embedded here, resistance too strong. Only HWNDU jesus can save us in the afterlife.
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>>128080486
Ah I misunderstood what you meant. I thought you were making a comparative cost of living based statement.

>>128080524
>Plus, all of our economically important cities will enter the agreement voluntarily.
inb4 state makes enforcing it illegal.
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>>128078390
Captain planet, he's a hero
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>>128080604
>I don't have a single shred of evidence to prove climate change is a hoax

I'm sure that toxic drainage in my drinking water will be within acceptable levels. Le based MEMES will keep those corporations in check!
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>>128080817
WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY GET THE MONEY FROM DIPSHIT

THE TAX PAYERS
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>>128078181

lol we can't abide by the Paris accords in commiefornia. our population keeps growing and growing, there is no way we can meet any of these standards. just more pissing into the wind.
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>>128080624
It is only the greater Seattle area and King County almost the entire rest of the state in Washington is red, and getting super pissed off that King county is taxing other counties around it to support it's social programs.
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>>128079518
Yeah, riiiiiight. Not lately, asshole. CA HAD a surplus, until they figured out they made a 1.9 billion dollar mistake in the budget last year, and we're right back into deficit land.
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>>128079689
>Not buying from local based Amish people on the side of the highway for half the price of "organic food" at whole foods

Enjoy
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>>128080376
Nice, can I get some sauce on that paragraph?
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>>128080745
This. the gange alone is a bigger hazard than most of europe together. China has whole states that are giant smoke factories.
Clean that shit first before asking us to wash with cold water every 2 days.
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Cali and NY can such each others dicks for all I care
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>>128080991
>proving a negative

Hello brainlet.
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>>128078181
That is literally their right as a state to do. Wish they would respect my state right to tell them to fuck off
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>>128079689
>California's agricultural output dwarfs that of any other state
California produces 12% of the US's agricultural output. More than any other, for sure, but "half the country's food," not so much
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Remember the last time a bunch of democrat states got together and made an alliance to oppose Washington over an econolically harmful thing?
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>>128078721
Produce plenty of welfare for niggers and spics*

Finished it for you
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>>128079069
A+
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>>128079635
it's not really hard to understand, non-white countries = 'developing' nation. Japanese, the honorary aryans get cucked too. This isn't a climate agreement, it's a fucking globalist takeover. white countries arent allowed to have an economy unless they pay their good goy climate tax which goes to 'not a one world government'.
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>>128080992
Who pays taxes in this country dipshit:

The rich

You should know this as it's a constant conservative talking point

But please keep shilling for (((them)))
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>>128078181
State Succession - Leave Drumpf with the yokels, retards and flyover states, everyone happy then.
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>>128078181
Inb4 he makes an executive order trying to force all states to follow his desires and another court judge blocks it
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>>128080273
Except that all the climate "science" is just hypotheses and not actually conclusions
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>>128078994
Life imitates art
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>>128078181
Civil War II: Captain Planet Edition
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>>128081324
>t. Im working on my GED
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>>128080768
even the Germanons know that California is a stagnant cesspit wasteland outside of Napa Valley. Damn
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>>128081255
Only the rich pay taxes in burgerland?
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>>128079855
Do you really believe food production and transportation and cows shitting and farting doesn't have a significant effect on greenhouse gas levels? If so, fucking retard.

>>128080216
>buy my groceries in Texas, therefore, my food originates in Texas
You're probably trollin but this is a believable level of retardation coming from a Texan.

>>128080557
>those farms could be moved anywhere.
yeah how?
>besides, we could shut off their water
yeah... how?
holy shit
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>>128078994
FUCK """"STAR WARS""""
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>>128080992
Here's a counter you'll probably get:

getting the curve to rise more slowly buys us to time invent something that turns the curve down.
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>>128080817
Lel, the Jews just raise their prices, then they turn around and sell "green" products for double the price.

The only one that gets hurt by these agreements is the consumer.
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>>128080991
We don't use "le" here, faggot. Therefore, any opinion you have about anything is null and void.

Fuck outta here with that shit.
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>>128078181

If the state govs want to spend their money on not actually building solar panels in indonesia, why would the feds bother to stop them
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>>128078994

god damnit this is how america ends
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>>128080196
You cant just google it either. I wonder why. Had to dig deep to get to it. Fuck Obama and his bullshit.

BTW: How many of Al Gores scientific predictions came through? Are we under water yet?
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>>128078181
They can have fun sticking with the paris accord as companies move out of those states.
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>>128078904
The lumber cutting areas vote republican
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>No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

Article I, Section 10
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>>128078181
fuck this state. i know for sure our military would crush and insurrection without hesitation. glass Seattle plz.
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Why is China getting all this credit for sticking with the Paris Climate Accord?

They didn't have to do squat until 2030 and we all know government's today can't even plan a month ahead.

Wish America could get credit for doing nothing once in awhile.
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>>128081534
Gore never said we'd be underwater in 2017 dipshit

Go Make more strawmen
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>>128081119
china is a 'developing nation', which is why they are always first to sign climate accords :^)
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>>128081255
NO NIGGA
THE MIDDLE CLASS PAY TAXES
THE POOR PAYS TAXES

The Rich send their money to some fucking off shore in moracco
And the ones who do pay are usually getting fucked for doing so
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>>128079345

Why people were so profoundly fucking stupid enough to vote for de Blasio is utterly beyond comprehension - this outcome could be seen from a mile away, well ahead of the elections. It happened EXACTLY the way we all thought. He's completely alienteted everybody and turned the city into a dump. Fucking Democrats will never ever learn.
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>>128078181

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism/
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>>128078907
What exactly are we here in California producing that is generating carbon emissions? Traffic in the cities?
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>>128078433
Yeah that worked out well for the CSA didn't it
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>>128078181

I couldn't care less what legislation New York, California, or any other blue state passes in order to make the lives of their citizens worse by imposing higher taxes and more restrictions on their freedoms. Have fun, bro.
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>>128081494
>Fuck outta here with that shit.
nigger you can go back with him
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>>128081248
the way it works is kinda like the colonisatio of africa. The west is "the privileged sage people" and we must "help the poor incompetent savages" by funding their shit (((and own it when it works))).
why do you think China is so enthusiastic. They are gonna pay themselves half of Africa in the name of polar bears.
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>>128078181
So I'm guessing this just means when they have to pay the inevitable tax for too much pollution it'll come out of their federal funding which they'll ask for more of cause "fuck this fascist establishment"
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>tfw I live in Washington

God damn I hate this state. We need to spend money on our fucking infrastructure not solar panels in Africa
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>>128081470
Here's the counter to that

Paying money into these programs that invent things will make the production time shorter rather then spend 200 trillion for a result that will come in 30 YEARS
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>>128081622
Al Gore once said that the ice caps would melt by 2014.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2009/12/gore-new-study-sees-nearly-ice-free-arctic-summer-ice-cap-as-early-as-2014/1
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>>128081404
T. There is no evidence AT ALL that carbon dioxide makes earth's climate hotter
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>>128078181
Someone invade Sacramento and kill those communists shit head pls.
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>>128081494
Literally. Cuck. Based. I am a robot. I am a polbot. Please insert majority opinion so I can repeat it over and over and over and over and over and over and over
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>>128079689
>water from CO gets turned off

Have fun growing that food retard
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>>128081640
The top 1% pay half of income taxes

Bottom 90% pay less than a third

How many shekels are you being paid to spew your lies

Common man isn't paying shit in taxes and is hardly burdened

He's getting gibs from Jews
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>>128078403
Came here to post this. Good for those states. The rest of us will be burning recreational coal and lining up our waterways with waste oil.
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>>128078181
Blumpf btfo

Between them NY and CA are a significant portion of America. Get a couple more of the deep blue states in on this and it will quash Donald's move a great deal. Most of the industry and pollution is from the blue states as that's where people actually live. Buttfuck nowhere states are probably much more environmentally friendly.
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>letting States have more say in what they do
What's the problem?
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>>128078181
>some states stick with the Paris agreement and crash their economies proving Trump right
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>>128078181

So... I am supposed to be angry about states doing as they wish without federal regulations being shoved down our throats? I hope it works for them, but I am very very happy that if it blows up it will blow up in their faces and not mine.
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>>128078721

The blue parts of California and New York contribute nothing of value. The red parts of California and New York produce agriculture, energy, etc.
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>>128078994
I heard the democrats tried to make a rebel alliance before. Anyone know how that turned out?
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>>128081920
Drumpf hasn't paid income tax in 20 years.
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>>128081746
China has been enjoying "developing nation" status for 30 years straight. They love all these climate cuck agreements because it gives them more free gibs.
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>>128080991
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html


It might have too many words for you though.
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>>128079689
Why do Commiefornians want to pollute the water with all the pesticides so they can have fresh strawberries? Why do theh hate water so much???????? Why do they live in cities like rats?????
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>>128078181
CIVIL WAR 2 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEEEEEEASE
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>>128078403
Then why has he been walking back legal marijuana?
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>>128078181
I hope he goes full Andrew Jackson on those liberal sodomites
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>>128081914
Sure, but that won't happen, like, ever.
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>>128079124
If you give Twitter shekles you get a blue star I mean checkmark
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>>128082041
It's crazy, New York city and New York State are two very different places.

Despite NY cities retardation I still love it
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>>128078181
When will this stupid fucking climate meme die already? We've been spoonfed this bullshit since elementary school. I took only one ecology class and it opened my eyes to the fact that there is literally nothing we can do to control the sun which is most likely responsible for the change in weather we've been seing in the last years.

Some stupid agreement is not going to stop population from expanding and people from adopting a westernized lifestyle leading to more pollution, for Christ's sake USA has 350 million people while China has 4 times the number of people and has city whose air is 49% CO2.

People raging at this agreement are ignorant motherfuckers reacting impulsively and bubble isolated liberal city dwelling assholes.
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>>128079164
You don't understand! It's ok when WE do it, because we are resisting a President we didn't vote for.
The scars of Sherman's March still run deep in the South. That said, I'd reeeally like to see socal get Shermaned. Smug bastards
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>>128078640

Fuck that. I'm writing to my governor post-haste and making it clear that whatever he's planning better not be coming out of my tax dollars.
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>>128081194
Bullshit. Cali is simply huge. Kansas Nebraska, and Iowa are the real breadbasket.
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>>128079618

He gave a press conference flat out stating we were pulling out. That if the globalist scum wanted to renegotiate so that Americans weren't being fucked over, he'd be open to it.
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>>128078181
I'm sure he respects their 10th amendment rights to pursue so and doesn't care
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>>128082041
Define value though.
If you just define it as "shit that's worth money in our economy/culture", then the cities represent the vast majority of the nation's value.

Having the blue states keep the Paris agreement will reduce emissions from the US greatly without affecting the states who don't keep it. Everyone wins desu
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>>128078181
>>128078433
>>128079216
>>128079260

Hello faggots what is the Interstate Commerce clause?
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>>128082328
This is literally what retarded, inbred /pol/fags believe.
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>>128082135
Where does it say the data was fraudulent? All it's saying is that the NOAA broke protocol. Did you not make it past the first paragraph?
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>>128082534
You clearly only read the first paragraph.
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>>128082158
Why? So the north can win again?
The Civil War didn't help the conservative cause one bit.

What actually helps it:
1. Sensible policy
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>>128078419
Cali produces, especially farm products from the Napa valley. Jew York is primarily usury and arbitage.
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>>128081914
You mean somehow trash the compact that was signed by delegates of several individual states a hundred fucking years ago, which would never happen since, you know, states generally recognize the importance of having food to eat? Is that what you mean by "water gets turned off?" That's some unbelievably dumb vague shit that Trump would say to sound like he knows something about a subject he actually knows nothing about.
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>>128080117

you mean *gasp* a liberal presidency was economically advantageous to the biggest liberal state?
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>>128080443

Why? Why do you care if legislators in New York pass a new stating "x" when it doesn't affect you? If the legislation in your own state tries, drag them through the streets and publicly execute them as traitorous filth. Until then, just sit back and smile as the left goes full fucking retard.
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>>128078994
Watched star wars 30 times.

Didnt read the climate deal 1 time.

really gets your noggin' choggin'
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>>128082164
Because he's a good goy
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>>128082613
Too late. We are 60% white and declining. War is the only answer.
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>>128082486
Compelling arguments, friend.
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>>128082041
I'm from a red part of NYC, we produce nothing but greasy Italians
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Good, drive more businesses out of those states with their draconian regulations.
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>>128082331

Exactly if they want this, let them pay for it out of their own pockets.
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>>128078994
Their sad attempts at autism are no match for this fully armed and operational battlestation.
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>>128081622
DESU I liked Al Gore. Its just that after his loss, he needed something to latch on to- make it his own- and in Grand Internet Invention Style he did. He took the environmental crazy to a next level. He polished it like a Monica Lewinski.
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>>128078181
Pipe dreams of a deranged mind.
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I'm sure the residents will LOVE this.

Trump is absolutely fucking all these faggot's worlds up and I swear to god I cannot get enough of it. This shit fuels me.
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>>128082164
to watch the potheads shit the bed, why else?
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With what money are they gonna fund all that shit?
American agriculture is especially known to not give a shit to begin with, the changes requires in products and machines will bankrupt most of your peasants.
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>>128082835
But will we win is what I'm asking.
If we wouldn't, then a war would be foolish and we would be better off fleeing.
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>>128082099
He didn't see the mr Maddow trump tax return after school special
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>>128080662

>getting starwars references mixed up

>Neckbeard senses tingling.
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>some states will nominally support climate change initiatives that no member countries even bother meeting but they can't make foreign treaties so basically they are setting a goal for themselves that they won't bother to meet, so they wanted one unless thing and got another
>some states will not support climate change initiatives that no one follows anyways because the federal government is not but it doesn't matter anyway for the above reasons
>this is a really big deal
literally a nothingburger, but states rights are pretty based, so i'm cool with it
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>>128082598
Not fully disclosing everything the document is and data fraud are two different things Rufus.
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>>128078181
>What now, /pol/, you hypocritical basement dwelling retards.
That is the point of withdrawing from the "Treaty".

IF we want to be proactive, we can. We can do better than the Paris deal if we wanted also.

Here is the other side of it that I saw. Wind/solar keep talking about being BTFO. They have a product that is overvalued and they know it. They had no drive to make quicker innovations, and no competition from tried and true methods.

It would take me 6-10 years to pay off solar panels. I think I can wait a bit longer for a better and/or more cost effective product.

There will be MORE innovation now that they actually have competition again. I know that there is a HUGE future in alt-energy sources....we will eventually burn very little coal, but watch the progress that is made by solar and wind over the next 3 years. You will be amazed.

And fuck Musk. He should not have made his patents public. He is a total cuck, and he will still make money hand over fist.

Americans are great people. I think we do better when we are not "FORCED" to participate. Remember that time England tried to make us pay taxes and shit? Yeah, that was a good time.

Either way, this is nothing but good. Most places will not see this affect anything other than the overvaluation of businesses, and there will be a market correction. IF you got stocks in solar/wind sell now.....when it stabilizes in a few weeks, but back. Trust me, you will make out.
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>>128082334
And, theoretically, without California and its produce, you could enjoy paying out your fat ass to eat nothing but corn and wheat grown in flyover states, and then we could all just be as obese as you walmart scooter scourge of the earth.
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>>128082837
>Hold magnifying glass close to grass
>Grass starts to catch fire
>Wonder why the grass caught fire
>"WOW, I GUESS WE CAN'T CONTROL THE SUN CAUSING THAT HUH. FUCKING LIBERALS AND THEIR LIES."
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>>128082638
Elaborate on the products? Some agricultural products require more heavy machinery, others require more Mexicans hand picking shit. Sure, we produce wine like mother fuckers, but no one is driving tons of heavy machinery through to pick them. We produce olives and garlic... Once again more hand picked. As someone who has lived in this shit hole my entire life I can tell you that our "agricultural production" is not the same as others. We produce fancy ass hand picked shit and dairy. It isn't the same, but no one bothers to think that far in to it.
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>>128082727
Because if more states follow suit you get another situation where they may and will secede, which reduces the power and influence of the US (obviously)
You have to keep them in line.
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>>128083273
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Read the article dipshit. The data was bunk.
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>>128082839

based SI?
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>>128078181
>we're gonna fuck ourselves out of money and industry growth, and nobody's even forcing us to.
good. at least these liberal shitbags can finally start doing to themselves what they've been doing to everyone.
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>>128082486
Literally? Are you still shaking? Maybe make a jewtube about it and cry and then put on twitter to let everyone know you really are the cunt they always knew you to be.
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>>128083165
War is hygienic. We need a cleansing.
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>>128078419
Exactly. Let's these 3 states form an alliance. Then we an cut them off and see how they live off nothing but avacados bagels and semen
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>>128079518
They produce a net positive in Federal tax revenue compared to federal spending per capita.

They don't have balanced state budgets.
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>>128080991
>using public utilities
FUCK OFF
COMREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>128080329
Looks like a great place to work. Do they still hire children down there? I got 2 kids that could use a time out at a Russian "Summer Camp".
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>>128078181
Lessee New (we're about to raise your taxes again and drive you out) York, Cali(We exist on welfare and just passed a 100 billion dollar healthcare bill) fornia, and Wash(we have a few coastal cities that liberals like and so that farm land that subsidies them really doesn't matter also what is Hanford) inton. If they want it, they can have it, just don't expect them to be states for that much longer, they have such sustainable Governments and all...
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>>128078181
Kek, look at them literally fucking themselves over in the long run. Basically going to hurt their poor and make them more dependent on the state.

Wait a minute.
REEEEEEEEEE
COMMIEFORNIAN TRANSPLANT ARE GONNA COME TO MUH STATE

This is a slide thread.
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>>128082486

Remember when climate "scientists" KNEW the polar ice caps would melt?

http://archive.is/O0OBM <- that is NASA saying "nope, they're actually growing."
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>>128080662
These people are all hypocrites. Almost everything they own is made in china- the largest producer of emissions. If they really cared about emissions they would walk around naked.

BTW: China is listed as a Developing Nation so they get a portion of the 3,000 Million Dollars from the Green Climate Fund.

Way to go NY Cucks.
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>>128078181
States can not form pacts, alliances, conventions or treaties between them. They may, on an individual basis, decided to do similar things, but they must be ratified by their own congresses and representatives individually, and not by group decision of governors above such.

Good luck, you won't get far.
Also, have fun doing any of that and not violating interpretations of commerce clause and federal/congressional interstate commerce laws.
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>>128083354
He's not challenging the conclusions found by the studies, he's literally bitching that they were rushed.

Big. Fat. Nothing. Burger. Get better sources dude.
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>>128083332
agriculture produce lots of C02 indirectly through the chemicals they use. And if you go full organic, then you'll still gonna use animal feces as fertilizer. Which are still a problem.
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>>128083833
(That moment when a Brit knows more about the US than the US based OP)
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>>128083294
But the liberal scientific "conclusion" is that carbon dioxide and green house gasses traps the heat in the atmosphere? You're saying that carbon dioxide magnifies the sun?
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>>128079787
citation required, rural person
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>>128080551
They are about virtue signalling. The title of a law or treaty is more important than it's contents.
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>>128078994
Looks like sithposting is back on the menu
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>>128083961
The conclusions are bullshit because the data is false. You're seriously stupid if you think you can draw conclusions from bad data.
>His vehement objections to the publication of the faulty data were overridden by his NOAA superiors in what he describes as a ‘blatant attempt to intensify the impact’ of what became known as the Pausebuster paper.
That is literally in the first body of text on the page. Neck yourself.
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>>128078181
They want to give American taxpayer money to this shit? California is in debt, how do they plan to pay? A amex card?
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>>128082328
>The Earth's climate is entirely due to the sun
>Local stuff has no effect

>What are mountains?
>What is ozone?
>What is water vapour?
>What is albedo?

>49% CO2
hahahahahaha

You've been huffing 49% CO2, buddy. Don't breed.
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>>128081248

So far all I've seen is conjecture and a list of countries that have contributed to the fund. Which I'm glad we pulled out because we put in 3 billion that could have gone to more important things, but I have yet to see anywhere that specifically states that China, India, or Russia are receiving funds or are set to receive funds from this agreement.

Don't get me wrong, I don't care for the bill but I'd like to see a more concrete source than a few anons running around saying it.
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>>128080273
> planet > economy

If you keep this up you won't have either you hosehead
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>>128078181

Those Governors allow Trafficking Networks a "Free Pass". Also Spirit Cooking/Eating takes place in certain Cities.

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/
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>>128082164
>DUDE WEED LMAO xD
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>>128084202
If the conclusions are bullshit why didn't he come out and say it? Bates himself said

>"The issue here is not an issue of tampering with data, but rather really of timing of a release of a paper that had not properly disclosed everything it was."
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He's probably going to leave it up to the states if they want to follow along. Backing out of the Paris Treaty only removed regulations that federal government was imposing upon the states. If states want to maintain those regulations, that's well within their rights
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>>128079124
That Jules guy sounds alot like william legate
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>>128081886
You must be a troll, a big oil shill, or just another Republican retard
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>>128084530
Because the data wasn't tampered with; the tests weren't conducted correctly meaning the data isn't applicable. He tried to stop his organization from pushing sensationalist bullshit to meet the conference date and they spurned him.
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>>128083528
>nothing but avacados bagels and semen
This is the core diet of the average New Yorker.
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>>128084581
It would be disastrous for those states though. If they had these regulations and other states didn't business would just move to other states.
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>>128082449
Literally a stupid "interpretation" by (((them))) that lets the federal government walk all over the 10th amendment, Trump won't use it because he isn't a good goy
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>>128084431
it's not that they directly get money. it's that, under the pretense of them being a developing nation, they get to keep doing what they are doing which means everyone continues to ship their manufacturing over to places like china because it's cheaper.
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>>128078403
States rights do not include negotiation of treaties with foreign nations. That is an authority explicitly delegated to the president and senate in the constitution. A constitution that is agreed to by each state as they were admitted to the union.
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Bullshit. The moment companies start moving to other states, those monkeys will nope right out of that promise.
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>>128078181
watch the leviathan eat itself
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>>128078181
so what? States can do that. Let them. Just now the other States are free to do what they want. This is downsizing federal government responsibility. This is good.
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>>128078181
>california fucks over the farmers on the central valley
>washington fucks over the fisheries on the coast
>new york fucks over the financial district that only passes the buck to the customer

It's like they want to turn their States RED.
>Trump 2020 confirmed
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>>128084708
Nice picture. How is that control "air" doing huh lmao.

Carbon dioxide doesn't make earth hotter. Show me the science
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>>128081224
Sounds like texas
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>>128078760
59 out of 62 counties swung Republican in new york last year

You just gotta fix New York city
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>>128085029
Why would they start moving to other states? Any non-regressive, non-retarded company WANTS cleaner energy.

Especially because it's a huge new market so there's a lot of money in it compared to Dyin' Coal.
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>>128078181
>new york
>carbon emission sin
>this thing of ours

wew too early in the morning to go there lads
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>>128079580
> dumb old man over his head

Jobless rate lowest since 2007
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-07/payrolls-in-u-s-rise-by-98-000-as-jobless-rate-falls-to-4-5

Trump effect? Household income hits 15 year high
http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/trump-effect-median-household-income-reaches-15-year-high/

April 11, 2017, the national debt has gone down $100 billion since Trump got into office
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/search?startMonth=01&startDay=20&startYear=2017&endMonth=04&endDay=11&endYear=2017

Trumps first months in office saw massive employment growth with US companies adding almost 300,000 jobs in February, exceeding economist expectations by 100,000.
http://m.hannity.com/articles/hanpr-election-493995-493995/boom-us-adds-nearly-300000-jobs-15627233/

Hasn't even been six months and he has created over 1000,000 new private-sector jobs now.

The stock market skyrocketed when he won, Just like it did today it's been at an all time high throughout his entire presidency.

> meanwhile Obama added more national debt than any other president in American history, in fact if he added another 2 trillion he would've added more than all of the previous presidents combined. This led to the weakest economic recovery from a recession in American history! And his presidency was the fourth worst in American history for economic growth http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/its-official-obama-presidency-worst-economic-growth-in-modern-era-4th-worst-ever/

> Almost doubled the national debt and nothing to show for it evidently. By the way you were Americans should be thanking God that Trump on almost doubled the national debt and nothing to show for it evidently. By the way you were Americans should be thanking God that Trump won, because the Government debt was going to get astoundingly worse:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin/2016/11/02/thanks-to-obamacare-government-debt-is-worse-than-you-think/#493090c415f9
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>>128080268
I just read about all of those MS13 murders in Suffolk County today and showed my MIL. Really fucking shocking and sad what the libs did to LI with their fucking sanctuary cities. Thank God for Trump.
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>>128082019
Ttumo hasnt been right so far so when the fuck is he going to be in general?
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God I hate my state
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>>128082019
Trump hasnt been right so far so when the fuck is he going to be in general?
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California has outsourced all of its Carbon to China. Instead of manufacturing products in the US where regulations would reduce emissions they send US jobs overseas and choke as the wind blows it back in their face.
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>>128084947

Would this be an accurate list?
http://www.iugg2015prague.com/list-of-developing-countries.htm

If so the accord is more bullshit than I thought, just empty language with a charity fund built-in
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>>128078181
Didn't know individual states could negotiate treaties with foreign nations.
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>>128080662
>Immediately after
>Emperor Trump issues Order 66
>"The Last Jedi"
Jesus they can't even resolve Star Wars references correct without a rebuttal on their grounds
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>>128085341
It's a physical property of CO2 you retarded monkey. Though you wouldn't know that since you're too dense for chemistry.
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>>128085855
Where is the science you fuckin emotional faggot
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>>128082328
>ignorant motherfuckers reacting impulsively
>city dwelling assholes

Oh god the fucking irony.

"Hurr education is a hoax, just be an all-american, salt-of-the-earth country boy and then you'll see the light!"

Who knew that all it took to be practically omniscient was to live far away from anything, be beaten by your alcoholic failure of a father, never bother to learn anything other than how to kill and eat wild animals, continue to believe in fairy tales into adulthood, look down on people who ask questions, and think that the pinnacle of self-actualisation is to own a pickup truck?

I swear you fuckwits are as bad as niggers in many ways. As unexceptional as can be - and proud of it.

Keep growing our food though - I need that protein to become part of the next generation to rule your mediocre ass.
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>>128085622
Then why don't you leave, faggot? Stop being a tax leech and move to some other state.
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>>128085425
>clean energy
There is nothing free in the universe, there is a price to be paid for clean energy also.
t. Boris Chernobyl
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Global warming is a ponzi scheme
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>>128078181
Cali is already running a deficit due to illegal aliens, is enacting single-payer healthcare and now wants to uphold the Paris accords.
>99% tax rate incoming.
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>>128085660
Thanks Apple.
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>>128080117
http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/blog/morning_call/2015/11/california-lost-9-000-business-hqs-and-expansions.html

TLDR
>California lost 9000 businesses over 7 years
> Most fled for Texas
>88% of new jobs generated in US are service IE Baristas
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>>128085423
The counties are irrelevant at the state level, at least in regard to EC votes. This map is deceiving - ~9 million of NYS' total population of 20mil lives within the five boroughs. A much more likely development would be flipping the upstate Dem holdouts like Syracuse, Buffalo, and Rochester.
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High-profile journalist with close Abe ties accused of rape

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/05/30/national/crime-legal/former-tbs-reporter-close-abe-ties-accused-rape/#.WTDLEmy1tPY
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>>128085948
https://scied.ucar.edu/carbon-dioxide-absorbs-and-re-emits-infrared-radiation

Dumb faggot.
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>>128079689
Oh no I'm going to truly miss Monsanto grown avacados and grapes featuring GMOs and inorganic pesticides.

Nah, unlike you retarded calicucks who have destroyed your economy so badly that you can't even afford anything other than a 1 room shack with a 500k salary I can actually afford a house with a backyard where I can have a garden to grown my own food.
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>>128086346
Yeah it re-emits it in all directions. So half of the heat absorbed by CO2 goes out into space.

Dumbfuck.
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>>128080268
>wipe out the engrossing spic population that's raping Long Island
I was chilling in gentrified Bk the other day thinking about where all the Puerto Ricans and Dominicans must have gone. Then I saw on the news they're just infesting LI which is honestly hilarious.
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>>128085983
Hit 'em where it hurts m8. Of course if you ever said this to one of them they would just laugh at you because they are too stupid to understand that or would threaten you in some way. Not all unlike SJWs.
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>>128086346
No no, where are the scientific conclusions that CO2 makes EARTH hotter, not a 5 foot by 5 foot space
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>>128085855
Ordovician- Silurian and the Jurassic-Cretaceous periods when CO2 levels were greater than 4000 ppmv (parts per million by volume) and about 2000 ppmv respectively. If the IPCC theory is correct there should have been runaway greenhouse induced global warming during these periods but instead there was glaciation."

> oh but the Solar output was 4% less than today!

Overall the study of stars is far from conclusive and solid science, meanwhile we can pull pieces from ancient geological layers that prove how high the C02 level was.
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>>128078721
Like what?
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>>128086621
>reemits it in all directions
Anon, are you legitimately that retarded?

Think about this for a moment. Heat reaches the earth. Then, it reflects off the earth into our atmosphere. Half of that heat is then REFLECTED BACK ONTO THE EARTH.

So you know what happens when more CO2 is in the atmosphere? More heat ends up being reflected. So yes, 'half of the heat' is lost by your retarded monkey logic but where the fuck do you think the other half goes?
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>>128084431
go to the page:
http://www.greenclimate.fund/partners/contributors/resources-mobilized

These are the countries that are considered developed. If you are not on this list, you are considered "developing" and therefore you get mo money for dem programs.
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>>128081552
Founding Fathers were such fucking geniuses. Unbelievable that they had the IQ and foresight to craft legislation that would survive and flourish for hundreds of years.
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>>128078419
Jesus Christ can trump supporters get any dumber?
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>>128079474
You don't actually believe that so uhm stop larping
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>>128087030
>Anon, are you legitimately that retarded?
It's called the inverse square law and it's a fundamental constant of electromagnetic emission, you sad faggot.

>So yes, 'half of the heat' is lost by your retarded monkey logic but where the fuck do you think the other half goes?
Well if there's enough co2 it'll stay in the upper atmosphere until it all radiates. The upper atmosphere is extremely hot as is so it doesn't matter.
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>>128084828
DESU ny does have a burgeoning craft beer industry. Matter of fact, California makes wine. Aren't these carbonated? I think California and NY should pay extra for the C02 that they produce by this method.
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>>128087111
>>128087361
Did reddit have a thread today? Been noticing a lot of dumb fuck meme posters today.
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>>128087385
Wow, you are legitimately that retarded. I sincerely hope you neck yourself.
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>>128080117
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Again these leftists show they are not us citizens invested in our country. They are global citizens who care more about foreigners liking them than jobs in appalachia. They despise real nationalists and would send us to death given the chance.

Imo we revoke these lunatics rights to vote since they don't value the country that gave it to them.
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>>128080117
Its in the purple currently.
2017 baby!
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