>"You don't like us becoming migrants, but why are

Imagine during WW2 all the men in europe fled to America to seek asylum and live on welfare.
We would have the eternal third reich by now.

>>128017543
No no refuge refuge with with my my wife wife

why dont refugees move to dubai???

>>128017543
Mandatory "Looks like detroid" post.

>>128018001
Too much sand.

>>128017543
It's the kikes destabilizing the middle-east, solution is to nuke israel and deport sandniggers

>>128017543
It isnt our responsibility to do any of that. That said, fuck off. Get out of my country.

There.

>>128017543
Stop blaming us for your chimpouts and start taking responsibility e.g. by fighting for your country.

>>128017543
Germany looked worse. That's all the argument we need.

>>128017543
implying they're all syrian

>>128017543
>Syrians have work to do.
>This is why they can't go back to do the work they have to do.

>>128017543
>making our lands impossible to live in
Their lands are already impossible to live in

>>128017543
God only helps those who help themselves mother fucker

>>128017543
Then why do people in these area's support Islamic extremism which warranted airstrikes and destroyed your countries in the first place? No Islamic extremism equals no bombs which equals no destroyed homes which equals no refugee's.
Own up to the fact that Islamic extremism destroyed your countries, not western aggression.

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1: More than half of the "refugees" coming into Europe are NOT from countries at war. This is a major, if not the single biggest factor in this debate that is COMPLETELY IGNORED.

2: Life sucks then you die. If you were given a shit hand by having your country bombed and you fix it by going to another country, act like it. Don't suddenly turn the next country into yours; conform, integrate.

3: Remember when men in Europe were bombed so they went to another continent and sucked up welfare? Neither do I, save for a few Eastern Europeans going to Western Europe, where they have integrated well (to my knowledge).

>>128017543
sounds like a personal problem

>>128017543
So how many european soldiers are fighting in syria exactly?

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>>128017543
kullake, miks sa selliste asjade pärast siin muretsed?

>>128017543
OP you fucking moron, even if we shelter them and the war is over, their country needs all these DOCTORS, ENGINEERS, ROCKET SCIENTISTS and TEACHERS back to rebuild their Nation under the same glory.

See what i did there?

>>128017543
So now theres plenty of open land ripe for redevelopment?

>>128017543

Dear OP. Please look at modern day pictures of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and then try making your case again. Long story short, shit can be rebuilt. GFY

>>128018243
/thread

>>128017543
>bombing our countries, killing our people and destroying our homes, making our lands impossible to live in"

Did you see what Europe did to itself in World War 1 and 2?
And it bounced back
Quite being lazy and pick up a broom

>>128017543
>you simply cannot sent them back to where they belong

That's where you're wrong, EUrocrats..

>>128017543
you're a faggot OP.

its not the Syrian refugees that are the problem. its the economic migrants from africa and asia. syrian refugees that come to europe dont go into millions man.

>>128018383
and now they're making ours too

We should advocate open borders for Israel. Surely they want to be the center of multiculturism, don't they?

>>128018243
>"That's a different story. All the debt germany had got deleted. And they started rebuilding after the war was over. They still have war over there in syria!"

>>128017543
>they can't stay at home rebuilding
fuck off OP

>>128017543
Pic starts to fall apart when you remember that most of the so called refugees are fighting aged men that aren't even from syria

>>128017543
We just don't want them here. They can stay in turkey or in the Middle East, but they want welfare from safe and clean white countries.

Anyone who supports refugees entering into Europe of America should be holocausted.

>>128017543
Unless Estonia is bombing Syria you don't have anything to worry about.

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>>128017543
so they move to this instead?
whats the fucking difference ?

>>128018085
I don't like sand
It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere

>>128017543
>but it's your responsibility to bomb us?

If you're out of line, yes. The UN literally has laws about it.

>>128017543
you can resettle 12 more refugees in middle east for the same price, libs shut up after this

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>>128018466
some did go to Argentina and look how well that turned out...

>>128018871
When they get passed that point, white people will be working to pay taxes that give them welfare
the native population will be their bitches

>>128017543
That would make sense if they were actually from war zones and not just gangs of economic migrants from Africa

>you were bombing your own countries long before we got involved

>>128017543
Bitch they have cable

1 - you are not a refugee

2 - if you feel so unwelcomed here why didnt you ran away into another muslim country, were they speak your language, practice your religion and rape is legal

>>128017543
except they did go back home because winter-chan told them sandniggers to fuck off

Boo hoo.
A lot of European cities in WW2 were bombed even worse, and yet you didn't see hordes of cowardly frogs, krauts, slavniggers, and anglos fleeing across the Atlantic to take refuge in burgerland.

Fuck off.

>>128018991
i keep saying if merkel "just" wants to help refuges send the money to those countries instead of handing it out in germany, stop the luring of refuges

Only 15% of the immigrants are actually Syrian.

Fuck off

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>>128017543

>>128018909
Lewd

>>128018909
you’re supposed to be dead Anakin

>>128017543
I don't even try to argue that because they're right. If people don't want refugees then they should do everything they can to stop those wars from happening.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfG1myglfhY

>>128017543
Refute the argument? No one has provided a reason why the sand niggers shouldn't just be executed.

>>128017543
>you westerners bombing our countries

Oh really? I didn't know I'm bombing shit.

Fuck off we're full.

Does this mean if we start blowing up our own cities, the spics, muzzies, niggers, and other shitskins will flee as refugees somewhere else outside our own countries?

Let's all commit white jihad, blow up our own cities, and get all shitskins to flee as "refugees" to somewhere like china

>>128018711
>That's a different story

No it isn't.

>All the debt germany had got deleted

Not part of the discussion.

>And they started rebuilding after the war was over. They still have war over there in syria!

So maybe stay and try to save their country, like germans did?

>>128019352

Except, you know, it's not Western violence in their countries that they're fleeing.

Try harder.

rebuild this shit you fucking rapefugees.

They don't have to go home, we can push them into the ocean also.

>>128019361

when the fuck will MSF get labeled as a terrorist organization?

>>128017543
Looks comfy compared to my hometown in 1945.

>>128017543
It's also why we don't want them

>>128017543
If only the religion that goes around fucking shit up didn't resulting in the citizens of those INSISTING that other countries intervene didn't exist.

If only the people of those countries could fight their own battles instead of wanting others to do it for them.

If only the non shithole countries weren't forced to pay the bills of those shithole countries because the shitty people in said shithole countries can't do it themselves.

You realize that if 1st world countries weren't giving those dirtpile countries financial and military aid, they would be EVEN WORSE than they are now, right?

Maybe they should rebuild? Or is that something only whites can do?

>>128019383
They don't say that. You're just collateral sufferer.

>terrorists are our people

Reaelley maed me thikn

>>128017543
Bullshit, they're fleeing their own intestine wars and divisions (islamists vs. military govs, Shia vs. Sunni, ethnicity vs ethnicity etc)
What a fucking joke. And they bring their own hell and destruction wherever they go.

>>128017543
REBUILD YOU FUCKING WEAKLINGS

MAKE SYRIA GREAT AGAIN

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>>128017543
>syrian refugees
in the refugee crisis 2 years ago, around 3-8% that came to Finland were from Syria. Our mainstrea media did report it, but not in the way it should have been. They were somewhat quiet about it but luckily we don't have Swedish-like propaganda here yet. The picture is bullshit because it paints the image that ALL refugees now do not have home even though most of them simply want free gibs. Many Iraqis have left Finland and went BACK TO IRAQ because they did not like it here. Fucking "war escaping refugees" my ass.

>>128019524
They couldn't commit much violence if westerners didn't sell them weapons.

>>128017543
every german city looked worse and grannies and kids rebuilt it

>>128017543

So go to a nearby muslim country, they don't need to go to Europe. Fuck that.

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>>128018243
>>128018463
>>128018466
>>128019134
OP here, I like these responses, thanks.

Also, I am not fucking pro-immigration, I am pretty much a borderline fascist, just playing devil's advocate to find good counter arguments against the average BS that rapefugees throw around.

>>128017543
>you are bombing us
I recommend you look into our bombings of their country.
Firstly, Estonia and most European Countries are not bombing them at all.
We bomb them but when we do we are very precise. The idea that we are carpet bombing these people is false. Our air strikes are very precise, to the point where there will only be civilian causalities if civilians are within 10 feet of the target.
>its not your responsibility to bomb us
But it is their responsibility to defend their own country. If they don't like being bombed declare war on us or declare war on your government for not declaring war on us.

>>128017543

>any of that damage was done by bombs from the west

I didn't make any decision to bomb Syria. Maybe they should all go and live in Trump Tower.

If it were up to me the answer to Islamic terrorism would just be to shut down immigration, like what makes liberals so sad and angry.

>>128019954
Muslims aren't dumb enough to give those leeches free gibs

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>>128017747

>eternal third reich by now

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>>128017543
1 POST BOT however:

That was Aleppo which was bombed by Rebels and Syrian Army forces. Not the west.

Aleppo was retaken in December 2016 by the Syrian Army after an awesome blitzkrieg that shattered the traitor rebels. Life is returning to normal with repairs well under way, construction starting up, businesses,churches,schools and mosques reopening aswell as the football stadium. People are returning home as the Syrian Government continues to regain territory nation wide.

Pic related the state of Iraq and Syria as of yesterday.

>>128017543
first step: get out of syria with your kikery
second step: deport them
but u guys are retarded and probably are going to push for another war with the kurds, enjoy more rapefugees

>>128018711
>All the debt germany had got deleted

That's not even true

>>128017543
You would agree and tell them the solution isn't too ship everyone to America but rather to address the underlying cancer in our government that pushes for all the war (the thing those people say are the root of the problem). Which of course are the kikes and their shabbos goyim

>>128017543
Most of them are turboniggers from sub-Sahara africa

>>128019986
Question: What is the most anti immigrant party in Estonia? Because the most anti immigrant party in Latvia could essentially be considered a fascist party, and I dont like that.

>>128020306
we were still paying for WW1 5 years ago.

>>128017747
>Implying the Third Reich could have lasted for a century even if they did win
The second reich didn't even last 50 years.

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We're asking them to go back and fight for it, it also doesn't help that they come to Europe illegally and try to change the culture once there too

>>128019986
Sand niggers would never help us if we were in need. They've never showcased any benevolence for non-Muslims. Who cares if we bomb them? We might as well be. We should be bombing them AND taking their resources AND blocking them from coming here.

>>128017543
"We hate the US gov too, or should I say Jew S. doesn't mean we want to be replaced in our lands"

>>128018155
No arguments in that post

>>128020225
I am not a bot, but thanks for the overview. Really does look like the ISIS are near getting BTFO.

>>128020031
Sounds legitimate. Maybe they have some sort of spoiled attitude like the western numales where they rather flee than fight? Either way it's not very clear why they don't fight. The war would be over pretty quick if they could simply enlist under glorious Assad and storm the ISIS niggers.

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reminder even these subhuman muslims managed

>>128018711
>All the debt germany had got deleted

Who told you that bullshit?

>>128020569
Most "migrants" aren't even Syrian. Most are sub saharan Africans.

6.6mn are planning to invade from North Africa this summer whilst Turkey threatens to unleash 5mn more from their border with Europe.

>>128018051
Beat me to it, Hans.

>>128017543
I'm not in their homeland so they can fuck off

>>128017543
Niggers from North Africa are not refugees.

>>128019134
The jews sure did though

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>>128017543
>"You don't like us becoming migrants, but why are you westerners in our homelands, bombing our countries, killing our people and destroying our homes, making our lands impossible to live in"
Because you need to be exterminated. You will convert or you will die.

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>>128019470
>he thinks germany didn't get built from the ground up thanks to outside forces concerned about muh socialists

>>128017543
heres a real rebuttle from a lefty op.
put em in concentration camps when they get there. refugees commit crimes and violence all the time. they should not get a free ride or cut in line just because it's immoral to kick them out. they are not free citizens, not immigrants but border hopers and asylum seekers. so give them an assylum. they cannot leave it but they can leave the country from it. they cannot go to the rest of the country until they immigrate the natural way. There's your solution.

>>128017543

i am from a disaster zone and i rebuilt, anyone who doesn't do the same is fucking conning your dumb mark ass. do you buy steaks from door to door salesmen too??

>>128020443
/thread

>>128017543
The dumb sandnigger apologists actually think the average white person gets a say in where the next war will be fought.

You know what happens to the average white if they take a strong stand against their government? The get fired from their job and or murdered.

That same average white gets forced integrated with you even if they don't want you in their own living area. You can hate "white people" until the day you die but you can't change the fact that the average white person has no say what so ever in military and migration decisions.

You probably don't believe it but if the average white did mass arson like the Black Lives Matter folks, the cops and national guard would be there with real bullets killing random white people to teach them a lesson. (((White))) governments fear the average white person more than any non white.

You do know that America isn't the only country you can move to. So just go somewhere else

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>>128020458
It's Conservative People's Party of Estonia, they are 3rd in popular support currently despite having been formed as recently as 2014, and most of their ideas are /pol/-tier. They basically support a big nationalist government that is separate from EU but not necessarily opposed to NATO. They also are pro-christian values and cooperate with one christian traditionalist figure. Pic related, two of their most important frontsmen (father and son, actually).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_People%27s_Party_of_Estonia

>>128020711
I agree, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that it's their destiny to be eternally bombed by us, since I could never bring myself to justify such an aggressive position outside /pol/.

>>128017543
Mecca has plenty of air conditioned tents just waiting for people to occupy

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>>128020827
Yes they are. Physically at least as a state. Ideologically and numbers wise they are growing worldwide.

The Peshmerga are just 400 metres from Raqqa(the IS capital) as of last night. Mosul is a tough fight thats still ongoing 7 1/2 months later involving 130,000 Iraqi,Kurd and IS fighters. Raqqa will be worse. There are upwards of 50,000 IS fighters in the city.

Peace is a long time pipedream though as once the physical caliphate is over in Syria and Iraq it still exists elsewhere and the Peshmerga will NOT give up the territory they took. The new Taliban are being born and the "heirs of the Caliphate" are already rising in Iraq as Shia militias are massacring Sunni villages.
My worry is their plan to activate "Grey Zones" in Europe. Area's of high Muslim population to act as a base of operations to waging guerilla war in mainland Europe.

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>>128017543
It wouldn't look like this of they wouldn't run away like cowards in the first place. Also a lot of areas like Latakia and Tartus have been spared from the fighting.
Also the holocaust is not real the gas chambers were a hoax.

>>128020843
This
Europe's rapefugees are like 500k syrians and 6 gorillion niggers
All muslim though

>>128020225
Congrats to Bashar al Assad, who led the multi-year-charge in a multinational effort to defeat the greatest organized terrorist threat humanity has ever seen, despite the best efforts of Barack Insane Niggerma and Hillary Clinton.

>>128021415
No, but if geopolitics demands it, bomb them unapologetically. And when they start whining about coming over to live on benefits, double down and block their ass.

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>>128017543
There is no refuting it because it's the truth faggot

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>>128021710
Lion of Damascus!

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>>128017543
NEWSFLASH: only a small minority of the refugees are actually fleeing from syria, the vast majority are simply coming to get money!

>>128017543

>You don't like us becoming migrants, but why are you westerners in our homelands, bombing our countries, killing our people and destroying our homes, making our lands impossible to live in

That's the biggest non sequitur I've come across today. There is nothing about performing acts of warfare in a distant land that binds a nation to accept immigrants.

Also I would love to hear the justification for blamonging every western nation for the shitstorm that is the Middle East. What exactly have Estonia and Sweden done to be considered an accomplice to this shit?

>but it's your responsibility to bomb us?

If it results in a (faster) return to a stable non-tyrannical society one could argue that it is.

>>128020750
>quotes
What did he mean by this?

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>>128017543
>but why are you westerners in our homelands
>How to refute this argument?

Ask them why they're not at their precious homelands doing something about it.

>wah wah we don't like Saddam/Gaddafi/Assad plz halp
>Western bombs en masse

If Muslims and Arabs in general weren't lazy fucks and took care of their own business, the rest of the world wouldn't feel obligated to do it for them.

Look at Africa. We don't bomb them into oblivion. They kill each other themselves when they have problems.

>be Muslim
>leave Middle East because I'm not Muslim enough
>go to western country
>blow it up because it isn't Muslim enough
>MFW

>>128020492
And then you started paying for WW2.

>>128017543

Syrian Terrorists

FIFY

>>128017543
The refugees are 100% african men, there are no real Syria refugees.

>>128021415
The closest anti immigrant party in Latvia is "Eiroskeptiskā Rīcība" they are euroskeptical and want to leave the EU, but they also want to leave NATO, change the political system from parliamentary republic to presidential republic (which to me seems like a sneaky attempt at a dictatorship) and they want to establish the death penalty.

http://pv2017.cvk.lv/CandidateLists/CandidateList?candidateListId=8k1v7yBEuCMERyWBkqtfTQ%3D%3D

>>128022163
only the next 100 to 250 years to go

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>>128022077
I have to post this for that comment.

>>128019361
SHOCKIN TROOF
THERE NOTT REFYOUJEE


IMAGENN MY SHOK

>>128018001
Saudi Arabia doesn't let them. And they own the West.

>>128017543
You are in Estonia.

Can't you just beat them with a brick?

>where they came from

France.

They came from France.

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>>128017543
and why do I care?

>>128017543
My country isn't bombing yours. So pls GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY

>>128021561
...and most of whom have left their wives and children to fend for themselves in their home countries.

>>128017543
What about Nagasaki?, Dresden?


You stay and re-build.

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>>128018463
They do, which is why they're escaping from said extremism. Which the CIA/Mossad funds.

Also, Syria was actually a (relatively) stable and westernized country before the civil war.

I dont agree with the migrant invasion, but your argument sucks. Get the facts in order first.

>>128017543
Why is rebuilding impossible?

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>>128018710
>We should advocate open borders for Israel, if you've never seen this before it's great.
AntiRacist Hitler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKDeyuM0-Og

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This webpage will present a huge amount of evidence to prove that Jews are working towards eradicating the white race, which is white genocide, via mass immigration and race mixing dysgenics:

http://muslimghettos.blogspot.com/2014/12/white-genocide-jewish-plot.html?m=1


______________________
•Jewish Eschatology

The mashiach [Jewish messiah] will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1). He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15)...The world after the messiah comes is often referred to in Jewish literature as Olam Ha-Ba (oh-LAHM hah-BAH), the World to Come...In the Olam Ha-Ba, the whole world will recognize the Jewish G-d as the only true G-d, and the Jewish religion as the only true religion (Isaiah 2:3; 11:10; Micah 4:2-3; Zechariah 14:9)." -- From "Mashiach: The Messiah", Judaism 101


http://www.judeofascism.com/2011/11/jewish-doctrine-vowing-to-indebt.html?m=1

http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/2009/01/jewish-problem-part-3-jews-in-banking.html?m=1

Wanna hear about this supremacist megalomania from Jews themselves?

Orthodox IsraeliJews: Non Jews Are Beasts to Serve Us as Slaves
https://youtu.be/vfsf6go7MVM

What Happens When Jews Can Freely Rule?
https://youtu.be/E0LpQrJDgsw


Saying something is 'anti-Semitic' scarcely ever means that it is untrue.

You have the right to know and speak Truth.

Learn about the Kalergi and Oded Yinon plans, and spread the Word.

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>>128022027
Saddam,Gaddafi and Assad were/are /ourguys/. Baathist(Arab National Socialism) and strong stable nations that absolutely BTFO out of all Islamist groups.

>>128017543
Why skip over all the countries in the middle east that are relatively stable and have the same values as you? Saudi, united emirates, qatar. Hmmmmmmmm

Syria and the region is smart.
>all these shithead retards
>we need to get rid of them
>start a civil war
>worthless shithead population either dies in battle or runs away

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>>128017543
>After having their towns destroyed and husbands killed german women stayed to help rebuild their town

really makes you think

>>128022312
The normal conservative parties are "KPV", "Jaunā konservatīvā partija" and "Nacionālā Apvienība"

They aren't strictly anti immigrant or euroskeptical , but at least they aren't insane.

On June the 3rd we are having local elections.

Im trying to pick one out of the 4 I listed.

1. http://pv2017.cvk.lv/CandidateLists/CandidateList?candidateListId=v1LXCZ3dkjy1SedyntZEbA%3D%3D

2. http://pv2017.cvk.lv/CandidateLists/CandidateList?candidateListId=1gpcyZFyNnBVXhfAohBypg%3D%3D

3. http://pv2017.cvk.lv/CandidateLists/CandidateList?candidateListId=t73FtbBbeJvZLnUDNyeNgA%3D%3D

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Syrian Stalingrad?

Syrian Stalingrad!

But why would anyone want to go to a country that actually bombs your country in a first place?

>>128017543
They can go to their fellow Muslims' countries. why would you want to live among the people who destroyed your land and killed your family/people?

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>>128017543
Then they can go to Dubai! Plenty of space for them there, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar!

>>128017543
I don't own any plane to bomb them as far as I know. And you are literally Estonia, who are you bombing? Also those wars are for the kikes not for us so tell the mudsies to fuck off and kill the kikes.

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>>128017543
This is why the the Syrian refugees can simply "go somewhere else"

>>128017543
Refugess have the right to the nearest safe country
In Syrian's case that would be Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia and not fucking half accross the world into Germany, Sweden

>>128023177
dont know why i didnt think of this

We're not "bombing their countries".

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>>128019524
Except the US and UK toppled their rulers in the 80's, 90's, and into today (dude Arab spring lol). We have a boner for creating power vacuums because what could go wrong? Petrodollar amirite?

>>128017543
tell them to leave behind their religion and join the modern world, maybe then their countries won't be shitholes

>>128017543

Yeah, blame us. Who are they kidding and how delusional can they be?


Here you go OP:

If only the Sunni's could get along with the Shias.

If only they held their government accountable and weren't neck deep in corruption

If only they had a separation of church and state where religious fervor isn't so engrained.

If only Afghanistan and her Muslim neighbors would have stepped up instead of letting it become a safe haven for terror ops and training along with OBL.

If only Pakistan didn't create the Taliban we wouldn't have to be fighting them. Sure we have some responsibility for the Mujahedeen because of the Russian invasion but that was forever ago and we were even trying to help them out to stabilize their nation state.

If only they'd remember that, according to what we know, that the Syrian civil war started with the Arab Spring. The West was trying to help them out because Assad was dropping barrel bombs on his own people and killing them. The world was telling him to stop but he didn't and it took too long and allowed ISIS to sneak in and start operations there too. Remember that the original FSA was a decent group. It wasn't until they were suffering so bad and getting their asses kicked that having anyone fight along side them was all the support they needed and which they gladly accepted because nobody was really helping them in that respect.

If only they didn't flee their lands and fight Assad. Instead, fighting age men were pouring out of Syria and abandoning their very own homes and families.

If only Turkey didn't sit back and be an entry point for foreign fighters to trickle in and raise hell

Even if we weren't bombing them they'd bitch about us not caring about them and that it's somehow our responsibility to help them and now they bite the hand that feeds. I mean hey, you wanted our help and we tried giving some but you also gave up.

Hope some of my ramblings help out.

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>>128022312
That sounds pretty extreme indeed for your average normie. Party that I described myself also has the reputation of being too overbearing for your average normie, but it enjoys lots of support from "rural and suburban retards" and boomers. They have an active youth wing too, and I was at one of their events. I found out that half of their youth wing are confirmed /pol/acks.

>>128023289
>Refugess have the right

No they don't. How does anyone have a right to enter another country and take up residence?

>>128017543
>why are you westerners in our homelands, bombing our countries, killing our people and destroying our homes, making our lands impossible to live in
Why are they playing the victim card? They've been fucking with us ever since their religion came, fucked with us some more with the Ottoman Empire and the barbary pirates for centuries, enslaved us, and now they wonder why we bomb the fuck out of them for even being a toe out of line?

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>>128020458
>and I dont like that
Dishonourable

>>128023123
Probably because there were no fucking young German men left. Just old men,children,wounded people and women of all ages.
Vid related as an example. Berlin in July 1945 shown in HD colour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5i9k7s9X_A

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>>128022968
I'm not disagreeing with that. Strong armed dictators have kept the Middle Eastern region relatively stable for 3000+ years.

Somewhere in the past 100 years, ((someone)) decided it would be a good idea for the West to get involved and bomb everything into oblivion because it's not democratic enough.

>>128023132
Fuck off, KPV - party of a clown, who can not answer any question regarding politics, ideology. JKP - most probably will join their efforts with Ushakovs. Bordans sounds and acts like an idiot. NA - they are establishment, one loop and one system with ZZS, V, e.c.

>>128024002
Who would you suggest then? The megalomaniacs?

>>128022405

One of the most poorly thought out, underage things ive ever read

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>>128023946
Yeah i know, just making the point that germans manage to stay and clean up instead of fleeing.

Aldo some did flea and people in captive in america and england did not return home

>>128017543
I just fucking hate muslims
Convert

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>>128017543
Point out that this is the plan all along and that the people to blame are the same ones that use this argument.

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>>128024329

>>128017747
>European men
>welfare

Found the goatfucker

>>128020834
first picture is from 1993 bosnia, sarajevo

>>128022762
I was talking about the refugee's coming over from Afghanistan and Pakistan who claim their country was destroyed by western imperialism you dink.

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>>128017543
My ancestors walked into a wilderness with no shelter or support surrounded by howling wolves and hostile natives out for their blood without a single penny to their names or the tools to build shelter. Fuck these weaklings.

>>128018001

Fuck off we're full

>jpeg of buildings with thousands of rooms
>"they have nowhere to go"

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Step 1
>put them in camps

Step 2
>root out the weak

Step 3
>Deport, Work, or Exterminate

Step 4
>reap rewards of a clean, peaceful Europe

>>128017543
Yeah but they can go to Jordan or other stable countries in the middle east. Wouldn't it make more sense they go to neighboring countries than cross a fucking ocean and multiple borders to reach the west?

>>128023502
EKRE might be fighting for right things but only retarded people join the party. They lack class and intelligence, we need a proper right wing party. Can't see it coming, though.

>>128021415
EKRE2017

>>128017543
Your problem is youre too friendly. When the migrant shit says "but its your responsibility to bomb us?" Youre supposed to say "yeah you stupid pedophile rapist piece of shit.

>>128024795
>reading comprehension

>>128025347
Coming elections are hell and nobody is perfect.

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>>128025077
To be fair. Native American sky gods weren't dropping giant meteors of doom on our ancestors.

>>128025154
take your migrants you worthless sand nigger.

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what do I do, guise? ;(

>>128017543
Germans, Japanese, Chinese, and Russians didn't go anywhere after WWII.

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>>128021415
>are pro-christian values and cooperate with one christian traditionalist figure

They are puppets of Isreal.

Only a half-breed tibla would vote for these two. Out nation lacks great leaders and Helme is definitely not a one.

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>>128025214
Nah, it's even simpler

>accept every single one of them in our countries, and even give them welfare
>but set a rule: every single one of em entering the borders will be sterilized, even children

Problem solved the easiest possible way

>>128017543
Turkey is just fine and muslim country why not live there?

>>128017543
>I have seen almost every single muslim in Europe use this argument when arguing with right-wing europeans. How to refute this argument?
Assmad invited the Russians in, and most of the damage is done by other Middle Easterners anyway
>"but it's your responsibility to bomb us?"
Mine? Do you think I'm a commander or something? I don't even pay taxes to those dicks

Send them the fuck back to fight for their country

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>>128017543
>I have seen almost every single muslim in Europe use this argument when arguing with right-wing europeans. How to refute this argument?
This not even an argumentation. Are they fleeing because the West is bombing them or in Middle East muslims killing other muslims? THERE IS WAR IN MIDDLE EAST BECAUSE OF MIDDLE EASTERNS AND THEIR BARBARIC RELIGION CALLED ISLAM! Why there's no war (Yes Turkey is not in very good condition but...) in Turkey? Because we had a white man in charge who desired to create a European country. What did those morons do?

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>>128017543
They can absolutely go back. After pic related happened, there weren't any Japanese (((refugees))), they stayed and rebuilt

>>128017543
#NotAllEuropeans

Europeans are suffering from actions of European extremists.

>>128017543
>>"You don't like us becoming migrants, but why are you westerners in our homelands, bombing our countries, killing our people and destroying our homes, making our lands impossible to live in"
Germany is bombing Syria? Isn't that mostly a civil war anyways?

You know, my great grandparents came from Schlesien after the war.
You know what they did? They didn't went to america begging, they got put into bombed land in a near country (germany), imidiatly build houses out of scratch, rebuild a completly bombed glass factory on their own and went to work again. Why arent you in Niger or somewhere like that, building houses and prouducing some Glass?

>>128021524
Hans, that's some mighty incriminating material you have there

>>128017543
95% of immigrants coming to Italy and smuggled by NGOs are not refugees.

>>128017543
Also, Arabia Saudita Can welcome home refugees too, oh wait It isn't wait and even if they havent accepted a single refugee they are not racisss and fascisss

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>>128017543
Because they are using the truth in this case. Of course the white Jew sponsored assholes are to blame.
And /pol/ more often than not, is forgetting the pecking order of enemies.
Jews are the cause, and those that shill for them. Even if I am Serb i feel sorry for sacrifice of Muslim world. Islam is regressing more and more into primitivism because of the west, directly. Truth be told u assholes are not the brightest our planet has to offer, but you do not deserve what is happening to you.

/pol/ likes to think that Serbs are somehow their kebab removers, in truth most of us would rather remove the Anglo-Germanic menace first, then kebabs.

Imagine a Jew wearing a panda outfit going around raping 10 year old girls. And then we decide that all pandas should be exterminated. This is the level of retardation we are facing here

>>128017543
Just remember: they overpopulated and tried to throw over their secular approach supporting government. They failed.

Pls, leave Estonia.

>>128026064
KYS.

>>128026787
"relocated" germans were treated like shit and not welcome, living in the cowshed was comfy af for them

>>128026064
>covering the face
I'm pretty sure the one on the left can be identified by her cellulitis ridden legs
seriously, those poor knee joints

>>128017543
Since 1914 every American military campaign in the middle east has been altruistic. No imperial or economic gain has came from any endeavor in the middle east. Oil has never been plundered. Agriculture has never been looted.

So why did we go, why are still there? Because you asked us to. You wanted a free society. But guess what? It comes with conditions, nearly all of which you have refused. The only reason terror has continued for as long as it has is becuse you refuses to let others live in peace. If you can't be king then you don't want peace, that's your personal thinking.

If you want peace, if you want to live happy, then help make a secular society. Seperate your religion from your goverment. Swallow your pride, and build a secular society. It is actually that easy

But you people cant seem to get that through your thick heads

>>128027269
I hope all 3 Baltic states leave, but I feel that chance of that happening is astronomical :(

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>>128017543

>Looks at old pics of Dresden and Nagasaki

You were saying?

>>128017543
Someone should make some post-bombing raid pictures during WW2 of German and Allied cities saying "This is why the French (Germans, Italians, Dutch, English etc) cannot simply "Go back where they came from."

>>128017543
Europe rebuilt after ww1 and 2. Are you saying Arabs don't have the backbone or intelligence to build?

>>128026064
>OY VEY GOY JUST WAIT FOR HITLER
kys

>>128025347
I agree but they are the best we are, and I say they are pretty decent at redpilling people. Say what you will but I contemplate joining their party pretty seriously atm.

>>128017543
Just looks like a whole lot of job opportunities there to me.

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>>128017543

Syrians, and other migrants are the equivalent of people who shit the bed.

Do they want to bust out the bleach, flip that mattress over, put some new sheets on the mother fucker? nah

Maybe even throw out their whole bed, and get a new bed in their room? nah

Do they want to stay in their house, take a shower, go over to the sofa in the living room, and crash on it? nah

What they want to do is walk into your house, or my house with shit hanging of their ass and sleep on my sofa, or sleep in your bed.

The left is like your dumb bitch wife that wants to leave the door unlocked, and milk and cookies out for them.

Migrants can not be trusted. They have no loyalty to their home. They have no loyalty to their people. How the fuck can you except them to have loyalty to you, or your people?

Migrants do not come to the west to embrace liberty, and enjoy freedom. They come to the west to exploit our kindness.

Enough is enough.

>>128018523
>kullake :D :DD
Is this Estonian sweetie posting?

>>128026745
Germany still holds patents on the chemical compounds used in nearly every chemical weapon today, including those used by Assad

Small world, huh?

If we are bombing you lands, and you hold resentment for that, that makes you an enemy, and why would we let an enemy in our country? Fuck off sand nigger

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>>128027564
I might leave soon. Fuck it, Im voting for the megalomaniacs, because let's be honest - the 3 normal parties will get seats anyway and the maniacs in all likelihood wont break 2% of the vote. Atleast I tried

>>128017543
99% aren't from syria.

If you would deal with the ISIS problem yourself, we would not have to drop so many bombs. Instead of running away, pick up a gun and fight for your country.

>>128017543
>>"You don't like us becoming migrants, but why are you westerners in our homelands, bombing our countries, killing our people and destroying our homes, making our lands impossible to live in"
Why the fuck would you take refuge in the country that is bombing your country? That literally makes zero sense. Either we're not bombing your countries, in which case you should fuck off, or we're your enemies, in which case you should fuck off.

>>128028937
This

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The Japanese were bombed a hundred times worse than the Syrian's ever got it.

They didn't bitch out, and flee though.

They rebuilt the country.

Are americans memeing the chimpouts?
I went to the store just now and called a nigger a nigger and told him to go back to africa when he asked me for directions, he didn't chimp out at all, just stared at me
Were you guys meme

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>>128027930
>joining their party pretty seriously atm.

Do you really imagine yourself talking with autistic Kaalep and jew Helme? They only speak for the working class people who's IQ is below 80. As I said, I agree with the majority of their views but the leaders are dogshit, lack charisma (who has one in Estonia anyway?), and use words that a 9-year-old would use.

They might be fighting my fights but nevertheless, I would piss and shit on them if there's an opportunity.

Still waiting for a new right-wing party to happen.

>>128017543
Fuck off.
If refugees get put in the neighborhoods with the politicians that made those decisions it would be a valid argument.

>>128017543
I never voted to bomb Syria and I never voted to accept immigrants.

Representative government in the US is a lie.

>>128019865
We've bought Patria vehicles from Finland and other weapons from USA and Russia.

So if we chimp out and destroy our country with this weapons we can just blame Finland, USA and Russia? It's not our fault?

Also, if the place is truly a hellscape, you should send the women and children first. Men should fight so their women do not become slaves to ISIS.

>>128017543
What the hell?
They can totally go back.
Looks like fun rebuilding everything, actually.

>>128017543
Who will rebuild that shit when all "men" 16-40 are in Europe?

>>128017543
https://www.rt.com/news/359118-germany-migrants-refugees-vacation/

1. its our military that bomb the everloving shit out of your country not the civilians.
2. there are plenty of safe countries on the way and in my opinion once you pass through the first safe one you are no longer seeking safety you are just an illegal immigrant and can fuck off

>>128027930
The problem with EKRE is that their members are dumber than the nigger refugees we are trying to keep out. A tough dilemma.

>>128031065

The nice thing about rebuilding is that you can modernize everything.

>>128030557
So you are one of those swedepuppets. How does it feel to betray the Estonians? How does it feel to be on par with Karl Vaino?

>>128020809
Are you retarded? I'm not arguing anything. They need to get the fuck out of my country. They are not welcome. They can go get bombed and fuck goats in their shitty sand place. Not my responsibility or concern. Fuck them all.

>>128031441
Not all of their members are dumb. But there are dumb members in any party. Our entire current government and their parties consist of dumb fucks, tiblas and crooks.

>>128031847
what are you mumbling about? I'm more Estonian and nationalist you can imagine, EKRE and Helme are cucks for Israel ja church. Estonia does not have anything to do with Christianity, rest of the Europe yes. So if you promote your religious bullshit you are on par with Vaino and tiblad. Fuck off jew, always someone shilling here.

>>128017543
So let their fellow sandniggers take them in. Why does that not happen? Why Europe?

>>128017543
Rebuild. Those buildings were out of code anyway.

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>>128018711
>>"That's a different story. All the debt germany had got deleted.
Dude after WW2 was over they even reactivated our WW1 denbt.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315869/Germany-end-World-War-One-reparations-92-years-59m-final-payment.html

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>>128017543
But they can always go to big Africa or Muslim countries.
Btw Somalis aren't refugees.

>>128017543
Just tell them we can't help it and are ceaselessly compelled to murder shitskins on a civilizational scale. Then tell them that coming to Europe was probably a bad idea.

>>128017543

most of the refugees have been living in Turkey or other Arab countries for years now. Its just now they figured out they wanted to go to Europe because of money.

>>128017543
makes perfect sense.
Even if we ('western' people) were the ones doing the bombing, this would imply that their lives have no value in our eyes. Why would you go to a country that has bombed yours? Did the French flee to Germany when they were invaded during WW2?

>>128032707
I know that there are church cucks in EKRE. This is exactly why I can not give them the vote. But we need some allies in this fight. And EKRE can be purged of the religious retards, trust me.

>>128035758
As for 'muh we cant go back', this only benefits the greater israel, from the euphrates to the nile.

>>128017543
we have no obligation to help them end of argument

and its asad and isis that did that mess in that pic,not us.........they can fuck off

>>128032707
And - what if church cucks are just undermining everything they can in order to become relevant again.

Church cucks being relevant in Estonia is a laughable idea. Let them play with it. They are tools.

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>>128017543
They shouldnt have swallowed the CIA propaganda that "Assad Must Go" in the first place then.
As shitty as it might have been it was a pile of rubble.

>>128017543
>You don't like us becoming migrants, but why are you westerners in our homelands, bombing our countries, killing our people and destroying our homes, making our lands impossible to live in
Are they implying that the european countries are at war with whatever shithole they come from? Quick round up all fighting age men. You don't seek refuge in with the enemy.

So either we do bomb their countries in which case we don't take refugees we take prisoners. Or we don't bomb their countries. So we don't have any responsibility towards them and they can go fuck themselves.

>>128018711
Not a lot of german refugees in the US between 1939 and 1945.

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>>128036429
>>128035804

As long as biggest church cucks Helme's are in front, I cannot vote for EKRE.

Considering Estonian history, voting for church cucks is like joining the revolution in 1917.

Estonia is not Poland or center-Europe, the so-called church values are absurd. If anything, we need to destroy churches and start promoting our old spiritual values and beliefs. Burn in hell motherfuckers.

>>128019352
We could glass the middle east. That will stop the war.

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>>128017543

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>>128018466
>Remember when men in Europe were bombed so they went to another continent and sucked up welfare?

Remeber how when Hitler rose to power everyone was saying that all those anti-semitic attacks were due to Nazipohobia and that its all due to western imperialists imposing their power onto them and imposing them with impossible demands so we should let more nazis into our countries so that all the naziphobia and racism against germans would disappear?

>>128017543
Then the solution is to pressure your government to end foreign wars. Protest that, instead of protesting to flood yourself with people from a country which we are, according to you, engaged with in armed conflict.

It's a nonsense argument borne of ignorance that presupposes we are unable to prevent our governments from participating in (Israel's) wars. One doesn't necessitate the other, and doing both is insane.

>>128017747
warsaw was way worse than this after the war

thanks, germans

>>128017543
>Syrians are having a civil war
>nearly all destruction there is caused by syrians against other syrians
>western countries have only bombed syria in support of one side or the other in the civil war
>Syria has plenty of countries not currently involved in a war that right next to them
>Those other countries are closer to them in terms of culture
>All of the syrian refugees go to europe instead

>>128038250
You fucking racist german hating naziphobe. German nazis were innocent victims of Imperialist entente destroying their homeland. You had no right to deny them safety and wealthfare.

#NotAllNazis #NoToNaziphobia #OpenBorders

>>128017543

They talk about Syrian refugees, but 90% of the people that they show crossing the Mediterranean are random niggers.

>>128024795
How about you start working on that reading comprehension, swamp nigger?

>>128038250
>Implying that's not the Soviet's fault

>>128017543
Show them pictures of Hiroshima and Nagasaki after the bombings and have a picture of them of how they look now.

>>128038890
Or Turks, other Arabs, Afghans, Iranians, Kurds, and so on.

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>>128017543
<~~This is why

>>128028033
it literally means "listen you", suomi kurat

>>128017747
To be fair the US gave Germany and other European countries a shit ton of money fo r restorations.

>>128017543
Why don't they send all of them to Detroit?

>>128018466
>More than half of the "refugees" coming into Europe are NOT from countries at war. This is a major, if not the single biggest factor in this debate that is COMPLETELY IGNORED.
FUCKING THIS. Most are not from wartorn countries, most do not stop in the first safe country like they are supposed to, many are not women and children, most do not integrate.
>flee your shithole country
>demand that the west does the exact thing that made your country a shithole

>>128038662
About 10% of migrants arriving in Europe are from Syria. Majority are Iraqis, Iran, Afghans, Pakistanis, Bangladeshi, Libyan, Tunisian, Maroccoan, Turks etc.. majority of them aren't escaping war or conflict zones.

>>128024329
>One of the most poorly thought out, under-
MUSLIM EXPLODES

>>128020843
Germany deserves niggers. They should have won the war. It's like a test, they either go full 14/88 or live like Boers.

>>128039420
What?

After World War II, according to the Potsdam conference held between July 17 and August 2, 1945, Germany was to pay the Allies US$23 billion mainly in machinery and manufacturing plants. Reparations to the Soviet Union stopped in 1953. Large numbers of factories were dismantled or destroyed.[citation needed] Dismantling in the west stopped in 1950.

Beginning before the German surrender and continuing for the next two years, the United States pursued a vigorous program of harvesting all technological and scientific know-how as well as all patents and many leading scientists in Germany (known as Operation Paperclip). Historian John Gimbel, in his book Science Technology and Reparations: Exploitation and Plunder in Postwar Germany, states that the "intellectual reparations" taken by the U.S. and the UK amounted to close to $10 billion.[5] German reparations were partly to be in the form of forced labor. By 1947, approximately 4,000,000 German POWs and civilians were used as forced labor (under various headings, such as "reparations labor" or "enforced labor") in the Soviet Union, France, the UK, Belgium and in Germany in U.S run "Military Labor Service Units".

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>>128017543
Bam, I just increased property values.