If America was an ethnically homogeneous nation like Japan, do

>>127938842
It's probably a major factor

"liberal america" looks nicer because it is older and much of it is pre-automobile. Then white flight happened

Non-whites don't believe in equality, liberalism,etc. They just see weakness and exploit it.

>>127938842
>it is a survival instinct response to multiculturalism
You could characterize the majority of modern conservatives like this. They don't actually understand or believe in what small government means, they're just scared of eventually being replaced.

>>127938842

>Liberal America
>Not Pictured: homeless black guy jerking himself off/overdosing on a public sidewalk

>>127938842
Conservatives are responsible for all of those things in your pic. Liberals to do not build anything. They tear down in the name of change.

Conservative america looks fucking great. All that space for activities!

>>127940470
That's a statement that's impossible to back up with academic rigor.

>>127939809
This post is the reason an ethnostate must form

>>127940052
>Liberal America
>Not Pictured: woman pissing blood onto blankets and trying to sell it as art

>>127941121
An ethnostate of what? White people? I'm not on board with being lumped in with faggy New English

Political systems, ranked:
1. Homogenous libertarianism
2. Homogenous social democracy
3. Multicultural libertarianism
4. Multicultural social democracy

Nice liberal towns with pretty buildings are nice because they were built in the era of homogenous libertarianism.

>>127938842
no. Japan isnt even "liberal". Even their liberal democratic party is considered as rightist/ monarchist/ far right

>>127940470
They built America :)

>>127938842
Liberal america needs more blacks starting fires and ten year olds that are 'gender non-conforming'

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>>127941227
>falling for divide and conquer
good goy

Actually, conservatism made all that. Neoliberalism hasn't done shit for America

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>>127938842

>>127938842
So the rich kids have nice old houses, and the regular people have to live in regular houses?

>>127941648
No, fuck em. I live in the South and I always have. I have next to nothing in common with someone on the Eastern Seaboard

>>127941701

Good job goy. Thank you for building all those pretty buildings.

Now beat it!

>>127938842
>1980's Sweden was still homogenous

Yeah it fucking was, our military was at it's peak, nationalism was spreading in the country and then in 2000 it all fucking went to shit, turn of the goddamn century everything just collapsed and look at how it looks now.

DON'T FUCKING REPEAT WHAT WE DID YOU GODDAMN MORONS

>>127938842
You're an imbecile for wanting any kind of socialism when it has proven to be a huge failure all over the world. Also, having to give half of everything I make to the state doesn't make me happier, even if we were a 100% white country, I would still loathe the very concept of having to pay for other people's shit.
Be glad of what you have, for the US are the only country in the world worth living in.
Fucking leftard.

>>127938842
>I feel like the only reasons Americans are conservative is because it is a survival instinct response to multiculturalism. Multiculturalism is the reason America can't have nice things.

There is much truth to what you say. But also I'd rather have the McMansion in the burbs than a shoebox condo in some shithole city. Better yet, I'd rather live in a small town at least 200 miles from the nearest large city.

>>127938842
We sort of did in the early-mid 20th century, beginning with the New Deal and ending with the Great Society. There was a moderately successful socialist movement in the Midwest and you had a lot of crypto-socialists like Huey Long as well. So yes, I think a form of it, probably not Sweden level but maybe similar to Germany or Britain, would be possible if there were less diversity.

>>127938842

>1980s Sweden was still homogeneous and borderline socialist, but it worked out only because the country was homogeneous.

pol is learning.

socialism only works with ethnically homogenous group of people. opposite of that is capitalism. eventually, capitalism will need immigrants due to increased competition and budged adjustments of private companies thats trying to survive or compete better.

in short, being capitalist and nationalist is oxymoron.

>>127943837

>being capitalist and nationalist is an oxymoron

You're right. I'm a capitalist though, so fuck the useless low-IQ white working class that feels they are entitled to a great job by merely existing. I see more value in some Mexican that's willing to work hard and actually be productive.

>>127938842
>renting vs owning

>>127944341

> I'm a capitalist though, so fuck the useless low-IQ white working class that feels they are entitled to a great job by merely existing. I see more value in some Mexican that's willing to work hard and actually be productive.

that's the right approach for a capitalist, unlike majority of /pol/ that never worked in their lives.

>>127944424

Yes goy, get a 30-year bondage, I mean um, mortgage loan that will be paid off as you reach retirement.

>>127944597

Indeed. I'd love to have a hard-working man like you as my neighbor Ahmed.

>>127939809
Literally this. Civil rights should only be for westerners.

The other races don't "get it" and they never will. If they did they would have came up with a similar idea. But it's only white westerners that came up with it, and yet we are the evil ones.
It's time to sever all contact.

>>127944816

Except quite a few East Asian nations have adopted democracy. Japan has had democracy ever since American occupation ended. Taiwan, South Korea, Hong Kong also have very stable democracies, which is impressive considering that most White countries were living under despotism until the Iron Curtain collapsed.

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>>127938842
we could be homogeneous but you racist faggots came in with jim crow

>>127944341
> implying the white working class isnt comprised of alot of trades men
> implying tradesmen are stupid
> implying tradesmen arnt out middle class
> implying your not a fucking retard

>>127938842
Bottom middle is Canada, there's a Telus, First Choice, and The Source :/

>>127938842
Americans have always been conservative and fearful of big government, so I don't think so.
I could see universal healthcare being a thing tho.

Also fuck that picture.

>>127945054
Japan is racist as fuck, and that's fine. Equality for all Japanese in Japan. Not for niggers, whites, chinks,etc.

>>127938842
I've always thought the only reason red states stay red is because they have to deal with niggers. New England has no idea, so they go blue. Still doesn't explain Montana.

>>127945247
>your not a fucking retard
hint: you're=you are

You kind of answered that question yourself, Billy Bob. Now fuck off and overdose on some opioids.

>>127945569

Japan is an ethno-state, not a racial-state as they don't share some broader sense of Asian camaraderie. White nationalists are trying to fabricate something that doesn't exist, which is White ethnicity.

Japan for the Japanese is fine. England for the English is fine, etc. A country for Whites is a ridiculous concept with no historical basis.

>>127938842
Liberal america doesn't look like that. Liberal america is detroit and chicago.

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>>127946063
Liberal America is also Silicon Valley, which is the most economically vibrant region in the world.

>>127938842
Is that supposed to be anti-conservative? Subdivisions, strip malls and church might not be as exciting as being pissed on by a bum and getting mugged by street nigs, but they're comfy

>>127938842
>strawman picture
okay
>If America was an ethnically homogeneous nation like Japan, do you think we could pull of a Liberal Social Democracy?
Not a race issue. It's a corruption issue. As long as you have people like Hillary Clinton thinking they're superior to people like the average fire fighter, you're gonna have issues.

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>>127938842
FTFY

>>127945972
We took North America and intend to keep it pure.

Now go fuck off to Stockholm, Sweden.

>>127938842
Middle Liberal city is Burlington, VT. I lived there for 14 years before it became a multicultural shithole. Refugees are everywhere now, and entire neighborhoods are no longer safe. These are the fruits of former Mayor Bernie Sanders's "progressive" policies

>>127946570
Funny thing is that's not even a real change from OP's picture.

>>127945247
> Can't address the point
> BUT BUT BUT YOU DIDN'T USE A COMMA

Lemme guess, liberal arts? Genders Studies? Some other useless bullshit along those lines?

>>127946578

Anglo-Protestants took America. Catholic Europeans were seen as shit, so much so that anti-Irish sentiments even led to the creation of a major political parties in the 1850s, the Know Nothings. Which affirms my previous point which is that there is no historical basis for White nationalism.

>>127938842
liberals eventually outgrow city life and head for the burbs when they have kids. americas reurbanization isnt a fad but dont think suburbs stopped growing too. they both meet different needs..

>>127946674
>OP pics happy go lucky neighborhoods
>my pic - degenerated inner city gangs and promoted faggotry
really leaf.......

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>>127938842

>Liberal America
>Not Urban Metropolitan Areas

Fake News

>>127938842
Why no images of downtown Detroit, LA, Chicago?

>>127946570
hey the 60s sucked

>>127945972
You're not really wrong, the problem has more to do with the fact that we really are THAT desperate at this point that we'd be fine with anyone who's white.

>>127947130
Hey Welfare niggers still suck

>>127938842
What is termed today as conservative is just what being normal used to be when it was all white USA. Even when there was the whole European immigration that all the 1800's Americans were upset about it was just more white people. The US used to be very liberal, back when that meant stuff like workers rights and being kind and making opportunities for those who worked for them. Now being liberal = being retarded

>>127945972
This nigger gets it

>>127946797

You keep digging yourself a deeper hole. First, learn how to click on the proper post when you try to offer a rebuttal. Secondly, that's a fucking apostrophe that you use when using contractions, not a comma.

You're a low-IQ retard (and by the way, take note of how I used "you're").

Go take some opioids to numb the pain of knowing you're a drag on humanity.

>>127945972
>hurrr durr what is western europe

>>127946392
A handful of rich executives and venture capitalists doesn't make it liberal. The fucks drove rent prices so high that regular minorities couldn't live there. Only the pajeets and chongs are there and only to serve the interests of those same executives. Silicon valley is one of those places that goes from top of the world to backwater pretty fast too, you've just forgotten 1999-2003. Amazon was under $10/share and no one cared what bezos thought. The mountains of commiefornia symbolize how quickly these companies rise and fall.

>>127944341

And thats the problem with anglos

You shoot yourselves in the foot because of muh rugged individualism

Meanwhile, Japan kept a train running just because one girl needed to get to school.

>>127941378
America was constructed by classical liberals, i.e., the libertarian right.

The libertarian right are creators. The authoritarian right are protectors. The authoritarian left are controllers, and the libertarian left are destroyers.

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>>127938842
>"HURR I WANT SOCIALISM BUT JUST 4 WHITE PEOPLE"
Second red scare when?

>>127938842
one is pretty, the other is comfortable

Yes, our american strip malls and giant superstores and sprawling suburbs are ugly, but if you've ever stayed in a liberal area or a european country, you know how much of a pain in the ass it is to do anything on a day-to-day basis in comparison.

Anyway, in response to what you actually typed, yes probably. If we were homogenous, we could really relax.

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>>127940050
holy shit fucking this. I would actaually be proud to call myself a republican if the party didn't just use small government as a way to virtue signal that's benign to it's global corporation scheme. Federalism will never die under either party. my choice is survival under lefties that wont kill me or work for a fascist federal demise under neocoons, religious, and nazi "muh day of rope" shitposters.

Actual confederate states of america when?

>>127945054
They adopted democracy because the west literally forced it upon them.

No other society other than western society has ever come with civil rights other than a western one.

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what is it going to take to break loose from the all controlling steel grip of the government? give me liberty, or ...

>>127947767
I know I sound retarded. I'm drunk.

>>127938842
>If America was an ethnically homogeneous nation like Japan, do you think we could pull of a Liberal Social Democracy?

Yes, that's why there was such a push for progressive reforms and things people today with socialism back in the late 19th and early 20th century

Public services, public spaces, public utilities, etc were being pushed because the country was homogeneous and everyone wanted the best for everyone

Then all the Southern and Eastern Europeans came
Then the Great depression happened
Then WW2 happened

Then it happened again the 50s and 60's... society was more collective in the aftermath of the war

That was when the US was 90% white though

Wouldn't happen today, countries far too fractured and culturally distant to itself. Next time America is struck with a great tragedy the country won't coalesce and band together like it has in the past, everything's just far too different.

Don't want to start making great predictions but history works in cycles and since America entered its second stage of civilisation after the Civil War It's been [relatively] stable. Empires last 200 years before they collapse and have to rebuild (or fail to rebuild and die). Last collapse was in the 1850's-1860's and it resulted in half the country leaving, a massive civil war, and then a subsequent massive restructure of the Federal Government which completely changed how the United States worked.

I wonder what awaits America in the 2050's and 2060's? Ethnic conflict over the changing population and culture of major parts of the US, demographic crisis in the population age pyramid, mountains of public and private debt, failing public welfare, healthcare and education services which will only get worse because of aforementioned demographic problems, waning international relevance and economic power, the list goes on. All of these things are happening right now. Maybe the US as we know it might not even make it to 2060 before it shits the bed.

>>127941273
wrong
>1. confederate rainbow of various state culture and political systems.
>9999. putting all our eggs in one fucking basket and masturbating to how right we are.

>>127938842
>implying anything but that train is liberal America

Fancy downtown shopping areas cater to conservative American tastes, then they get in their cars and go home.

Meanwhile the shitty housing project 4 blocks away is where the "blue" population of the cities comes from

>>127938842
Death to all liberals.

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>>127947566
>Calling Nazis Communists
Are you this fucking new?
I swear to God summerfags are the worst cancer

>>127944341
>MUH ECONOMIC EFFICIENCY
whats good is economic efficiency if it leads to destruction of your extended family you short sighted retard
>WE GOTTA BURN THROUGH THESE UNRENEWABLE RESOURCES FASTER AND I DONT CARE IF WE PERMANENTLY RUIN EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF IT

>>127938842
that's a really bad comparison considering you use all new buildings for conservative and old buildings for liberal. It doesn't even make sense.

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>>127938842
I think you could. I also think your culture, society and foreign political influence would be much, much better.
>>127947566
>Soc dem is socialism
Back to kindergarten kid.

>>127947767

It's kind of stupid for "The West" to take credit for democracy. Democracy as we know it today evolved from strong British private property rights (i.e. The Magna Carta, Glorious Revolution). Think of modern democracy as being a cool app on your phone that was invented by the British and that has now been dowloaded successfully by other high-IQ societies, which would be other White and East Asian countries.

But I still take issue with thinking that The West invented democracy. The West has also included some of the most draconian, anti-democratic societies ever conceived. Just remember that most White countries in the world were still living on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain until 3 decades ago.

>>127946570
Needs an orc in liberal America.

White supremacism or any supremacist ideology is based on an inherent selfishness and ego driven, its ultimately self-destructive. Even if some magic button existed where all the non-whites, non-christians disappeared...not a single thing would change...you'd turn on other whites accusing others of being the wrong 'kind' of white, having the wrong shade of blue eyes, etc and continue to blame your personal failures on the "other", the other now being a slightly different kind of white. Its inherent to your nature as your supremacist ideology is you just embracing your primitive mind and rejecting evolved higher reasoning. Conservatism is the result of subhuman tribalist thinking and rejecting of higher order reasoning.

"Multiculturalism" really isn't sustainable. We're already hitting its limits. Something's going to hit the fan pretty soon.

>>127939809
>>127944816
Epic meme.

>>127948039
>National Socialism
>not socialism
What is it then faggot
>>127948187
Shut up yurofag you wouldn't know your country was socialism if Stalin himself was running the country telling everyone to seize the means of production

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>>127948404
0.2 shekels have been deposited in your account

>>127948404

Because the crime rate between blue eyes and green eyes is just so different, right?

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>>127947484
>authoritarian left can't create or preserve

>>127938842
That picture is why america is conservative

>>127947918
Should be noted that it is true that waves of European immigration did all face resistance and racism from the the existing Europeans in the US. The English-Scottish population hated the Germans and Irish, and then they got over the Germans. Then the Anglos and Germans hated the Irish together, then they got over it. Then the North Europeans hated the Eastern and Southern Europeans, then they got over it.

But what is happening now in the US is fundamentally different to what happened then

All those groups were European and Christian. They all had some historical connection to each other, and even though there was hatred for a time, when everyone assimilated the tensions disappeared and the idea of "white" as including all Europeans generally came to be accepted as the norm.

The Hispanization of America won't go down as cleanly or as calmly as It did in the past.

1. Hispanic Americans are coming is far, FAR greater numbers than Europeans came in any of their waves, they're coming more consistently and they're coming more illegally.
2. All other groups of immigrants were either more dispersed geographically and/or they had to build their communities from the ground up (by displacing Indians) whereas Hispanics are by and large located mostly in the South West and are not starting from scratch, merely moving in to the cities built by non-Hispanics.
3. No other group can claim that part of the US used to be owned by Hispanics
4. Multiculturalism and the move away from forced assimilation means that Hispanic Americans are not abandoning their homeland culture, language and identity in favour of American culture and English anywhere near the same rate that Europeans did when they moved to America.
5. Hispanics lag heavily compared to other immigrant groups in the past in uptake of Citizenship, and their incomes and education levels pale in comparison to other immigrant groups.

tl;dr south west is fucked

>>127948616
You have to go back. Why don't you go make mexico great?

>>127941227
Found the shitskin

>>127949147
>go back
I'm from the USA.

>>127948751

Guess what, in historically multi-ethnic European countries, there tend to be discrepancies between different groups in all sorts of categories, including crime rates, median household income, educational achievement, etc.

You see this in Belgium between the Flemish and Walloons. You see this in Italy between Northern and Southern Italians. You see this in Spain between the Catalans, Basque, Castilians, Galicians, and Andalusians. And guess what? You see this in the United States between Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans, German-Americans, etc.

Which brings me back to my next point. There is no historical precedent for White nationalism. There are tons of examples of ETHNIC nationalism. Japan for the Japanese makes sense. France for the French makes sense. Portugal for the Portuguese makes sense. But white nationalism has no historical basis.

>>127949225
No, you aren't.

Could we pull off a Liberal Social Democracy? Yeah, probably, we're America. We went to the moon and brought back the stars. The question isn't could we, but should we? And I see no reason why we should. Why completely rewrite the framework of a superpower, especially when you're the only one with a constant global reach that must be maintained?

>>127944341
Another shitskin immigrant

>>127945246
Regress ourselves for muh civic nationalism. Because latin America has never happened, go fucking live there dipshit

>>127938842
but we don't tear statues down.

>>127946876
We were a European country for close to 400 years Minus the last 40. Now get the fuck out of my country.

>>127949315
Lmao, someone took a class in racial equality. Welcome to the real world spic, go visit your eutopia down south we don't want nor will we have you much longer.

It may take balkanization at first and some alamo scenarios ;)

>>127950273

>European country

That's never existed in the New World. America started as an Anglo-Protestant country. The founding fathers would be turning in their graves even in the 1830s when they saw hordes of Catholic Irish and Germans moving in.

Ethnicity is not the same as race. European ethnic groups have a historical basis to claim the need for self-determination.

>>127938842
>Liberal America
>Mostly white people
Nice try.

>>127946898
>liberals eventually outgrow city life and head for the burbs when they have kids

No, they get pushed out of cities because our cities become dangerous, enriched, expensive, boring shitholes.

desu I wish we could be like Denmark or Norway, in terms of gibs, taking care of the environment and etc... OP is partially right, because I would never advocate for that sort of system here. It would crash with no survivors. I deeply appreciate the push for nationalism for a few reasons, mostly because its helping out our working class at the moment, and its reinvigorated hope for a lot of white people, who for some reason believe that we aren't headed towards becoming a cognitive down-sloping Brazil 2.0 tier shit hole with the current demographic circumstances.

>>127950669

>racial equality

How about just reading a history or geography book? I was talking about ETHNIC differences you fucking tool, which is different from race.

>>127942035
What happened, Swedebro? I was thinking about doing grad work for archaeology in your country, but things have just gone to shit I noped out and decided I'd focus on biological anthropology instead.

Just how, and why the fuck did it happen to y'all? Sweden was so quiet, unassuming, never played the colonization or genocide game so I'd thought they'd be immune to the white guilt that haunts other European nations.

>>127946570
If it so then why so many conservative states so poor, except few CEO?

>>127950764
I'd imagine there churning would cause an earthquake seeing you here. You're pseudo philosophy is irrelevant, the bottom is our country was 80%+ white for 350ish years, 150 years at 90%. You come here after 1965 and think you belong here, Fuck off.

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This is a more accurate representation of liberal America. I guarantee you 99% of the people who work at or regularly visit this establishment vote Democrat.

>>127951079
Fug, caught me phone posting. I don't blame you paco the jews have an effective propaganda campaign against us. Just know, you in fact do not belong here

>>127942035
>DON'T FUCKING REPEAT WHAT WE DID YOU GODDAMN MORONS

Too late. We are dumb as fuck.

t. entire western hemisphere

>>127948404
theres clearly something special about western europeans
and something the opposite of special about everyone else
its not ego driven to want to use past data to properly make decisions for the future

>>127951079

Pseudo-philosophy? Everything I stated is a historical fact. There is no historical basis for white nationalism. If so, then why the fuck has Europe been politically fragmented since the collapse of the Roman Empire?

>>127951079
>>127951260

Are these two series of posts not just concrete proof that all phone posters should be banned? How fucking low-IQ could this individual even be to think that any of the shit he's saying makes any sort of sense? Fuck phone posters

>>127951014
Every one of your posts if filled with semantics and jew tier divide and conquer tactics. Eat shit spic.

>>127938842
A homeless man was stabbed in front of that exact Ben and Jerry's fyi

>>127951417
>There is no historical basis for white nationalism
There is now

I'm not paying for white trash to get a free ride.

>>127941337
this desu

>>127951417
>What is the last 400 years of American history

How about that for a historical record of Multi-ethnic European nationalism you dense motherfucker

>>127941913
>falling for divide and conquer
good goy

>>127947168
that's... one depressive way to spin it

>>127945972
fuck a historical basis. effective invention is about meeting current needs

>>127943837
>capitalism will need immigrants due to increased competition and budged adjustments of private companies thats trying to survive or compete better
It worked in Europe for hundreds of years before they decided that "we have no choice but to take immigrants".

>>127951424
You're are beyond help if you can't decipher my phones autocorrect fails, making your beaner comment irrelevant. Not that you needed any evidence for that.

>>127948404
Deep bro. After all Hitler killed all the people without blue eyes.
I also get my politics entirely from high school English class.

>>127951651

Except there was no sense of White camaraderie. The quota laws that were lifted in 1965 were put in place in the 1920s to stop the stream of Southern and Eastern European immigration.

So in other words, the most restrictive immigration laws ever put in place in the US with the exception of the Chinese Exclusion Act were meant to stop other "Whites" from Eastern and Southern Europe from moving in because hint: there was no sense of white racial nationalism. Ethnicity historically has and will always trump race.

>>127950764
>The founding fathers would be turning in their graves even in the 1830s when they saw hordes of Catholic Irish and Germans moving in.
not at all true
a lot of them were fucking alive
show me a quote

>>127948404
Deep bro. After all Hitler killed all the people without blue eyes.
I also get my politics entirely from middle school English class.

I mean, think of all the blonde Icelanders butchering the Brunettes in the streets.

>>127951789

>It worked in Europe for hundreds of years before they decided that "we have no choice but to take immigrants".

they decided that since increasing competition. globalism is INEVITABLE under capitalism in long term. that's why it's incompatible with nationalism. and paralelly socialism is incompatible with globalism.

refugees aren't beneficial to economy in any way tho, agenda behind refugees are different and this board already knows it. im talking about low skilled laborer migrants. also im curios what are they gonna do with them after automatation.

>>127951424
If there's one thing that's almost unanimously agreed upon it's that nothing intelligent was ever uploaded from a phone.

>>127952369
>>127951789

since competition is increasing*

>>127952119
whatever we had it was fucking great and worked
whatever we have now is fucking awful and doesnt work
you have to go back

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liberal america

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>>127952560

>>127952119
Now I feel like you're trolling me or maybe I gave you to much credit calling you a spic, nigger.

You're exhaustingly stupid, so I will just say god Damn it must have been nice being white enough to be ethnically segregated. Now Fuck off back to whatever shithole you came from or fertilize America's soil ;)

>22 trillion

>>127949340
>>127949222
You have no argument to back up your idiotic statements so you resort to name calling and accusations. Both you must have in IQ of 80.

>>127952369
Give them guns and point them at the rest of us

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>>127952733
this is what liberals do, they don't give a fuck about others

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>>127952839
liberals at their finest

>>127951651
There was never white racial nationalism in the US. My grandfather was Irish-American, born in 1928. He remembered very clearly there being "No Irish Need Apply" signs, people being scorned from elections for being Irish Catholics, and hearing the term "papist" thrown around. There has never been unity among Europeans here.

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>>127952923
this is what liberalism gets you

>>127948404
We need more niggers, right? I'm going to bet you live away from the nigger monkeys someplace White, where you can queef out your hypocritical moralizing in safety. Fuck off with your Jew-shit.

>>127938842
Have you been to any towns? Even some cities like Fort Worth are conservative and still look aesthetically pleasing.

>>127953071
>>127952923
>>127952839
>>127952733
>>127952560
>hurrr social liberalism and not economic issues cause homelessness and decay durrrr

>>127952222

The vast majority were dead. Jefferson and Adams even died on the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence in 1826, and they were the last survivors. Remember that Jefferson was one of the youngest at the Constitutional Convention, so the other old dinosaurs had died.

But there actually was a major backlash. The Know Nothing Party, which was anti-Anglo-Protestant immigration, nominated Millard Fillmore in the election of 1856 and he won over 20% of the vote in a 3-way election.

>>127953195
It does, in every major liberal city there is a vast network of homelessness / gangs

I live here, they do not care about the homeless, and pretend to be homeless for shekels.

>>127952793
Ok, good night pal.

>>127939809

>i-its just the minorities... e-equality and liberalism are great goyim

You fucking libtards even try to ruin ethnostates.Its postmodern marxist bullshit like "equality" and "liberalism" that got us here in the first place.

>>127949315
We've become a new identity. Yes White Man, you do exist.

I work construction in the city of San Francisco.
Depending on the job site, we may have to order a portable toilet.
We have to build a box out of plywood to surround and lock the portable toilet when we aren't working because the bums will destroy it, do drugs in it, or die in it. (my boss found a negro bum dead inside one)

>>127952560
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>>127952733
>>127952839
>>127952923
>>127953071
>smug and smoggy libshits will compartmentalize this

>>127945972
>A country for Whites is a ridiculous concept with no historical basis.
Incorrect. The United States of America before the Hart-Celler Act of 1965 is a prime example and it worked extremely well.

>>127953450

They often break into construction sites to steal tools as well, visited a potential office today and the contractors were telling us that it has been broken into about 10-15 times for tools, carpets, insulation, etc.

Cops don't really do anything either.

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>>127952839
>>127952923
>>127953071
>cherry picked images.
Here's some CDC stats.

>>127952981
So because of religious differences 90 years ago we should turn our country into latin America (Pro-tip it already is the bankers just haven't let us know yet). The Irish played a huge role in building the east coast infrastructure.

Honestly not sure what you're getting at or if you're just throwing out opinions for the sake of it.

>>127953601

Uh, it's really not, I can go outside and take one for you. This is reality.

>>127953573
Haven't had the privilege of that happening to me yet since we clean up and lock everything down at night, but I do know it happens.

The Naturalization Act of 1790, setting out who may become a citizen of the new American nation, states explicitly,

That any alien, being a free White person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States, for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof…

>>127953279
Homelessness comes from economic issues affecting housing prices and general economic well-being. Conservative areas like the rural South and Midwest aren't known for being well-off economically.

>>127951062
Farms, Black people.

>>127950764
False statement alert. Benjamin Franklin complemented the Germans on their industriousness. A Polish colonel, Kościuszko for for the US during the Revolutionary war. America was pan-European from the beginning.

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>>127953737
I live in the south. I've seen the kind of poverty here too. I can do the same thing bud.

>>127938842
Liberalism is nice, but only if everyone's white. I'd be a liberal if we didn't have literal cities being used as wastelands for young niggers to run around.

>>127953910
I grew up in the south, difference with the south is that they have an actual community, and pretend to care, here they don't give a FUCK about the homeless, not to mention the numbers here could fill five counties in the south.

>>127951055
The Jews hate White people, and see the Swedes as the Whitest of the Whites, so hate them the most, and therefore made them their target, despite the Swedes just minding their own business.

>>127938842
Australia / Canada were homogeneous,are they close to socialist ? No, that's the anglosaxon spirit my friend, and cherish it, you don't have to give 20 % of your salary to pay your homosexual neighbor healthcare protection against AIDS

>>127947921
This. Just balkanise your shit up already, America.

>>127953910
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Francisco-homelessness-by-the-numbers-10767735.php

From december, estimated number of homeless in this small 5 miles of san francisco (they hardly wander from the central area) is estimated to be 12,000.

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>>127938842
>muh leftism is better
>muh right-wingers are stupid
>muh sweetie sweetie cheto drumph /pol/ btfo you goys

>tfw economic freedom is better in EVERY way then any leftist bullshit delusion.

Go fuck a cactus covered in sea urchins faggot.

>>127951062
Our manufacturing sectors (mostly in rural states) have been getting fucked over for decades by our financial and legislative systems. Most of our financial and tech sector infrastructure has always been on the coasts. In a service economy, that's almost all there is.

But ever since Drumpf took office, wages are going up back in my home state bigly. There is a steel mill opening up there, and there hasn't been one of those for decades where I live. American manufacturing was pretty much dead until very recently.

>>127947454
Someone's jealous as fuck.

>>127944341
Christ, I can't believe people like this exist

>>127954272
"Economic freedom" is a meme-tier indicator.

>>127950764
Then why was our first ally France? Obviously we didn't hate non Protestants that much at the beginning.
The irish were seen as lazy and niggerdly and the italians were seen as not fully white, other Catholics were fine by most people I believe.

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>>127941913
Alabama sister fucker detected

>>127945054
Nearly all of those were western occupied

>>127944341
>sea urchins faggot.
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> Anonymous (ID: mcOm3DzL) 06/01/17(Thu)07:04:24 No.127954374 ▶
>>>127951062
>Our manufacturing sectors (mostly in rural states) have been getting fucked over for decades by our financial and legislative systems. Most of our financial and tech sector infrastructure has always been on the coasts. In a service economy, that's almost all there is.
>But ever since Drumpf took office, wages are going up back in my home state bigly. There is a steel mill opening up there, and there hasn't been one of those for decades where I live. American manufacturing was pretty much dead until very recently.
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> Anonymous (ID: sQK3y6U5) 06/01/17(Thu)07:04:29 No.127954379 ▶
>>>127947454
>Someone's jealous as fuck.
>>>
> Anonymous (ID: VIsMEwPF) 06/01/17(Thu)07:05:01 No.127954437 ▶
>>>127944341
>Christ, I can't believe people like this exist
>>>
> Anonymous (ID: DdHMrzUO) 06/01/17(Thu)07:05:12 No.127954451 ▶
>>>127954272
>"Economic freedom" is a meme-tier indicator.
I quite agree with that. Beside making low-IQ white trash disappear, it would also make fucking leftists disappear or convert to right wing ways of life

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>>127954048
You mean high teen birth rates and abortions. No to mention more domestic violence rates. I'm glad I don't live in the deep South. It's a shithole.

>>127951055
Swefen colonized Russia and the Baltic states

>>127951055
Women voting is what happened.

>>127945972
Not true. A white american of german ancestry and one of english are both culturally the same.

Also, there's variation even within ethnicities, dumbfuck

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>>127954451
It's a massive amount of evidence to support a conclusion based in reality...

>>127940610
So you're basically saying we cannot trust our observations? Liberals can work a job, but it usually doesn't amount to the tactile building that conservatives often demonstrate.

>>127946876
And the know nothings almost never gained control

>>127954241

Of Course, homeless are going to swarm areas with high income, because panhandling there earns a hell of alot more.

>>127953881
US was anglo from the beginning, but now it has no choice but to assimilate continentals

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>>127954747
Another Pinochet worshiper...

>>127954241
It makes sense for homeless to go to cities. They have to take the burden of homelessness. Why would you go to a rural town if you're homeless?

Not to mention southern states rates among the least when it comes to happiness for the people living there. I wonder why?

>>127954642
I'd rather have that than the shit hole this place is, smells like piss, every teen on the street asking you for gibs, throwing shit at you if you don't give gibs, breaking into every fucking thing to get some fucking adapter for their iphone that their parent bought but they don't give a fuck, then you have tech faggots acting like they own the place but scatter whenever they hear anything other than a pin drop, they don't re-invest in the community they spend all their money and time in clubs and then fuck everyone over after hours, not to mention the majority of people don't live inside the city due to the homeless problem that the cuck of a mayor won't address, there are 8 known gangs and they kill people pretty often but cops never do anything, there are openly acting transgender hookers standing on polk street daily, cops pick them up for a go time and time again, the cop headquarters is deep in the tenderloin and helps facilitate the crack pushing in the tenderloin as it gives them additional profit...

Yeah okay, it's so much nicer in liberal cities...

I could keep going there is a FUCK TON more that is fucked up.

>>127954970
They are shipped to cities.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Nevada-could-face-suit-for-dumping-patients-in-4745151.php

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>>127954751
>Liberals can work a job
You have to give them some credit, liberals do help raise their wife's kids. That requires work.

>>127954969
>Said someone without an argument

>>127954958

There is no such thing as an ethno-centric empire.

>>127955066

Liberals don't want kids, and the ones that help raise someone elses kids generally buy into the deal because they are 30 and can't find anyone who will deal with their whiny bitch ass except single moms who ignore them and fuck chads.

>>127955137
There could easily have been, but unfortunately its too fucking late. The greedy interests have had their way.

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>>127954595
>Beside making low-IQ white trash disappear

That's not how it works. The poorest and dumbest of them will continue to reproduce massively under the worst of circumstances. It's like the inverse of blacks. The more gibs blacks get, the more children they'll have, it's their only form of prosperity.

There are poor and economically lower middle class whites who are perfectly competent people, and perhaps even very intelligent. When they suffer financially, in a social Darwinism tier economic system, the people who have foresight have less and less children. The dumb and trashy whites will continue having children though, often above replacement rate. When proximity permits it, this is how a great deal of coal burning single mothers are produced. And whites of this caliber are the most manipulable, the most prone to leftist ideals, aside from their meme tier religiosity.

>>127955220

You're delusional if you think America could have ever expanded out of new-england without continental europeans.

>>127955222
Me
>post extensive evidence to prove point

You
>no evidence

Fuck off and go back the the asshole you came from.

>>127955014
So you live in the shitty part of town. EVERY fucking city on earth has those problems. That goes with living in a fucking city, since FOREVER. You're blaming liberals for problems that have existed in cities since cities have existed.

>>127955468
I live in the *very nice* part of town.

>>127948301
>It's kind of stupid for "The West" to take credit for democracy. Democracy as we know it today evolved from strong British private property rights (i.e. The Magna Carta, Glorious Revolution). Think of modern democracy as being a cool app on your phone that was invented by the British and that has now been dowloaded successfully by other high-IQ societies, which would be other White and East Asian countries.

So Great Britain ISN'T Western?


>But I still take issue with thinking that The West invented democracy. The West has also included some of the most draconian, anti-democratic societies ever conceived. Just remember that most White countries in the world were still living on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain until 3 decades ago.

EASTERN countries.
"The Russian is not a European, but an Asiatic."

Communist nations consisted of Slavs, Jews, Asians and the poor Poles and Germans forced behind the Iron Curtain.

>>127949146
>>127947918
COGENT
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>>127944341
He's right. If you disagree you are a Communist.

Those are and have always been the rules. Capitalism has no concerns about 'family' or 'people'.

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>>127954642
>That image.
>The South.

Looks like some Cali shithole to me.

>>127955468
Also, yes, I am. It's a liberal city, in a liberal state, and everyone in the office here is liberal.

So yes. I am.

They should be as well, this city could be a lot nicer but it's pretty fucking shit, anyone who even attempts to solve the problem gets shut down by "feelings" and "emotions".

>>127938842
Jog your noggin for a minute to question what the top pictures have. They have public amenities that are available to everyone and are generally pleasant. That's important because people are willing to pay to be near nice public amenities like a park or a train station. People's willingness to pay is reflected in rent and housing values near those things. Here's the issue, some people like public amenities more than other people do. Some people like having private amenities instead of public amenities. In general, liberals like public goods and conservatives like private goods, so their living styles reflect that. A liberal is more likely to value being near the museum and a conservative is more likely to value buying a new television. It's all just tradeoffs.

yes you nailed it OP

have a bump

>>127955383
>You're delusional if you think America could have ever expanded out of new-england without continental europeans.
It easily did. New England invented the West. Most Western land was empty even after continental hordes were permitted to enter.

>>127954642
>>127955746
>Palm tree
>Brown landscape
>Mountains in the background
That's from somewhere near Bakersfield

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>>127955468
Democrats have basically destroyed almost ever Midwestern city. Detroit and St. Louis became more like 3rd world countries rather than American cities when massive industrial output could no longer prop up the pretense and absurdities of American liberalism. You are the shittiest civic organizers in human history. Everything about your world view is degenerative and ugly. Your ideology is lower than the notion of sin, it is a social cancer that will likely irreversibly turn this country into a 3rd world shit hole, should you succeed in your ideals of progress.

It would be better for this country and for this earth if you just ended it.

You left out Michigan.

>>127938842

Liberal America should look like Detroit, Baltimore or East LA

>>127956447
Looks like Salton Sea / Indio to me.

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>>127947311
>tfw to intelligent to address the argument

>>127938842

The middle picture for "Conservative America" is a Canadian strip-mall dipshit

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>>127938842
Yes.
American conservatism basically revolves around "I won't pay for nigger and spic shits" by tribalism and because they know it's wasted money.

Collectivism tends to work far better in ethnically homogeneous societies because trust and empathy is present.

I'm not fundamentally against socialist policies but it requires for the population of the country to play fair and we all know that non-whites don't have ethics and will just milk the thing until it explodes.

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>>127938842

You got the 'Liberal America' wrong. See Detroit:

>>127955737
>Capitalism has no concerns about 'family' or 'people'.
The jews managed to concile both and turns out that's why they basically own your ass and pretty much every goy in this thread

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>>127938842
Sure, while we'll benefit greatly from socialised services that are only possible in a homogeneous society, we won't tolerate degeneracy, so we'll opt for NS instead.

>>127953841
>Conservative areas like the rural South and Midwest aren't known for being well-off economically.
Strange why massive liberal cities and states like Californa have larger homeless problems if this indeed purely an economics issue rather than a lifestyle one

>>127955222
But he's right though. You're posting an mspaint face that doesn't make any claim based on the issue really doesn't count as an argument.

>>127938842
what city is that center top picture?

>>127951062
Why do liberals always complain about rich people but then use the few rich people in silicon valley propping up california's economy as evidence why they are so much better?

>>127946614
>>127965701
never mind I guess I should read the thread first

thanks for the preemptive answer anon

>>127965903
This

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>>127938842
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_Q_qwPAVvc

>>127938842

America has enough space to pull off different systems, while still being the same country on paper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJpznMaZ85c

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FFS stop using the word liberal to describe leftists.

how weird that the only place in USA where 'liberal america' seems to not be a complete failure is where it's ~98% white

>>127954642
>>127955746
friendly reminder that california is the poorest state in the country
http://www.laweekly.com/news/california-is-americas-poverty-state-7380756

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>>127966845
reminder this is a new tactic the libcucks are using. they are trying to distance themselves from the left by claiming that they aren't the same thing to make them more palatable to moderates. do not fall for it. leftism is liberalism and was made possible by liberalism.

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>>127951062
They aren't poor, they simply have far fewer people.

Wyoming has 500,000 people so obviously a state with 50,000,000 is going to have a higher GDP, that doesn't make Wyoming poor by any stretch of the imagination. Wyoming is a nice fucking place to live with extremely low cost of living and low crime.

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>>127951062
it's called 'cost of living', serge

>>127945652
liberals like trees for some reason

>>127951062
density, mostly

>>127945652
>Still doesn't explain Montana.
historically difficult states to live in tend to be red

new england does not fall into that category.

>>127953279
my favorite thing about seattle
>LETS DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE HOMELESS
>proceed to not really improve anything for the homeless

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>>127968030
my friend lives in a rich part of california and her city made being homeless illegal because homeless were popping up

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>>127968137
>we made being poor illegal so no one will be poor

>>127968271
it's not a joke
they make it illegal to feed the homeless, pass laws about sleeping outside or in your vehicle, etc.,

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0216-boden-california-vagrancy-laws-target-homeless-20150216-story.html

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>>127968383
holy shit
how can you preach helping the homeless while simultaneously actively legislating to make their situation worse

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>>127968503
>>how can you preach helping the homeless while simultaneously actively legislating to make their situation worse
out of sight, out of mind. She lives in a gated community and never interacts with poor people.

>>127945972
>A country for Whites is a ridiculous concept with no historical basis.
Lmao fucking jew.

>>127938842
Literally no question.

The conflicts that arise in American society are purely because of the different demographics.

>>127953601
teen birth rate is good for whites (as long as the man is decent)

but this picture is probably because of the huge hispanic population in texas. In short people brought there by libs are the ones causing the problem with which you are trying to argue the moral failings of conservatism.

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>>127970711
are you trying to tell me that there's some correlation between non-white and how shit your state is?

that's just preposterous!

why does every minority get so crazy when they are in USA ? is it because they dislike how everything about minorities is usually simplified in one food or one stereotype in the USA?

>>127959912
fun fact 13 miles on average city driving is past the cutoff point for blacks' attention span.

>>127953601
>Nigger/spic infested states have higher teen birth rates
No shit Sherlock.

>>127938842

The real reason for libtardism / leftism is : women

>>127970853

Houston and Dallas are both in the top 10 cities for black population

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._metropolitan_areas_with_large_African-American_populations

>>127938842
>Liberal Social Democracy

You can always spot communism by how many words they smash together to try to convince you it's not communism.
Democratic People's Republic of Korea
United Soviet Socialist Republic
Whatever the fuck the Chi-comms call themselves.

If you were actually proud of being a communist, why not just put communism in the name and stop lying about being democratic or a republic?

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>>127941806
Hihihihihi!

>>127938842
>ethnically homogenous

Thats not what the millions of SEAs I see everywhere imply

If you want to see modern day "liberal America" look no farther than Detroit. It was chosen as a model democrat city and what is the result? Ridiculous rates of murder, crime, and poverty.

>>127938842
Yes, we almost certainly would be extremely similar to Canada or Great Britain in terms of social democracy where it not for our racial heterogeneity.

>>127938842
>1980s Sweden was still homogeneous and borderline socialist, but it worked out only because the country was homogeneous.
Please don't use Sweden as an example without basic understanding of Swedish history. Sweden became rich through free market reforms in the late 1800s and later made shitloads of money during WW2. Sweden's success was despite socialism, not because of it. And Sweden's failure is because of socialism, which invariably leads to mass immigration.

>>127947479
When society shows care for those who need it it's easier for them to feel that they have to return the favor if they can. This is easier in homogeneous societies of course.

>>127941273

Homogeneous libertarianism made the jump to social democracy because the population grew beyond these small relatively communities that they used to be.

People don't need massive governments when they are able to basically engage in voluntary actions with people they know. Gated communities and neighborhoods are a fantastic modern example of how things used to be in the past.

>>127973409
Then how do you explain Denmark, Norway and Finland, sventard? Face it, you guys uniquely cucked yourselves. You can't blame the "socialism" bogeyman.

>>127941121
>Liberal America
>Not Pictured: Detroit

>>127974365
How do I explain what? Denmark is also on the path to cuckoldry, only they're slightly slower than Sweden. There are shitloads of Muslims in Denmark, in particular in the Copenhagen area. I doubt any Dane would dispute this. Norway is far more cucked than Denmark, and their economy is only working because of the oil. Norway has immigration levels comparable to Sweden, though they have made no effort to somewhat distribute the immigrants all over the country like Sweden has, so small towns and rural areas in Norway are still quite unaffected. Finland was occupied until 100 years ago, and was then at war in an unwinnable position during WW2. Until 20-30 years ago their economy was terrible and Sweden received hundreds of thousands of immigrants from Finland. Their economy, their culture and their general attitude are completely different from the rest of Scandinavia. Even so, they've started receiving more and more immigration the last few years, in particular from Nigeria. In fact, during the refugee crisis in 2015 many traveled through Sweden to specifically go to Finland because of its more generous family reunification laws.

>>127973444
Don't you see how gated communities lead to liberalism in the first place? Shut out and ostracize what you disagree with, wallow in your echo chamber, and then believe the carefully cultivated voice of unity is wise.

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>>127975068
>Denmark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Denmark
Denmark has the best demographics of any Nordic country, except Iceland (but they're so isolated it doesn't really count). Also, the Danes paid for advertising telling refugees to fuck off
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/denmark-advert-lebanon-newspapers-warns-refugees-150907225146384.html
>Norway
Just looked up their demographic stats, thought it was better. Still better than you guys though. Makes me sad.
>Finland
Finns may have been fucked historically, but they are still 93% plus Finnish currently. What does it say that Sweden, for all their past achievements, is less than 85% Swedish and looking at an ever worsening trajectory?

>>127976296
Shekel status: denied:

>http://aljazeera com/news/2015/09/denmark-advert-lebanon-newspapers-warns-refugees-150907225146384.html
--> https://archive.is/5o15U

>>127938842
>liberal america
>there's no nigger around
that so racist la

>>127974599
this

>>127938842
america is a federation of individual states what socialist policies the states wish to enact is up to them otherwise the central goverment will become the new eu forcing shitty policies down others troats.

>>127976296
>What does it say that Sweden, for all their past achievements, is less than 85% Swedish and looking at an ever worsening trajectory?
What are you getting at? Are you expecting me to defend Swedish immigration policy? Obviously the reason Sweden is more cucked than the other countries today is because Sweden wasn't at war and didn't get invaded during WW2. Either way, they're not far behind us.
>they are still 93% plus Finnish currently
This is the problem with Americans. I just explained this to you. Finland was a poor country until the 80s. Nobody wanted to immigrate to Finland back then, because people don't want to immigrate to poor countries. Instead, many Finns emigrated, most of them to Sweden. Meanwhile, Sweden took in people not only from Finland but also from Iran and Turkey. Finland only became a desirable place to migrate to 15-20 years ago, whereas Sweden has received immigrants for 50 years. What you really should be asking yourself is how they can even have 7% foreigners. This is because your numbers are irrelevant since they make no distinction between different kinds of immigration. In fact, Finland has far less than half the number of foreigners (in the cultural sense) than Sweden does.

>>127938842
>white people
>liberal america
black ghettos would be the most liberal places in america