You have 30 seconds to explain why we shouldn't bring back

less efficient than lethal injection

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>>127904154
guillotine is too quick and precise, I want my enemies to suffer a slow and painful death

>>127904154

It isn't painful enough for libtards and niggers

>>127904478
>>127904487
Remember, you don't actually die until you lose oxygen to the brain, which takes a couple of minutes so you're in unimaginable agony during that time

Firing lines send a better message

>>127904154
Gassing is a more traditional way to kill kikes

>>127904154
Why not Lead? 16 cents a round and you can choose how slowly they die.
>>127904710
Sauce plz?

>>127904154
People don't have interest in public executions.

>>127904154
muh hooman rites

>>127904154
Life sentence should be life in a work camp.

>>127904154
louis xiii, xiv and xvi are not the ruler here

>>127904154
>not hanged, drawn and quartered
pleb

>>127904154
Great entertainment for the kiddoes

>>127905638
yes because its not cruel enough to sentence a person to life in confined spaces you must force them to work as well. It really takes an anglo to write a comment like that.

Because it's a liberal symbol. Ever heard of the french revolution you fucking imbecile?

>>127904154
bullets are cheaper

>>127904710
blood pressure and CSF pressure drops, causes unconsciousness fairly quickly.
>>127904154
...
...
...
That's why.

>>127904154
I'm all for it!

I think cutting off a hand or leg is more resonable way to punish people

>>127904154
>liberally
because if that happens your head will be one of the first to go off

the death penalty isnt legal in most places so naturally it wouldn't be used "liberally"

>>127905058
source please? when have kikes ever been gassed apart from in my dreams

>>127906141
>flag
checks out

>>127905974
it takes a fucking leaf to disagree

>>127905974
Kill people at a cost to the state or use them until they die to produce for the state?

>>127906141
Nah makes them a burden

>>127904472
>pull rope
>push guy into slow
>let go of rope
vs
>millions of dollars or prision bs, then million dollar chemicals injected

no too lazy to even argue with u

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>>127904154
Stoning is better:
-Family sport
-teaches teamwork and coordination
-very painful and slow
-anyone can participate
-very enjoyable

>>127904154
I'm going to spend all 30 seconds explaining to you why the guillotines are long overdue.

>>127904472
Lies
Lethal injection is slow and expensive. You're dead in a second with the guillotine.

>>127904710
you don'T know what you're saying.

The arteries being choked or severed cuts it off the brain just like when they apply a choke hold in mma unconsciousness comes in a few seconds so they aren't in "unimaginable agony"

>>127904710
I'm pretty sure you pass out or go into some kind of shock or coma like state pretty soon

>>127904710
You're nervous system is dead. I really don't see how you're going to feel pain.

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>>127904154
it would be /pol/tard degenerates first in line

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>>127904154
Extremely ineffective when one has to worry about about 5 million "problems".
Prefer remigration or sterilize (so the majority will go by itself) afterwards ...

>>127904154
It's a biohazard. Hanging is better anyways; it's just as fast and there's less cleanup.

>>127906580
The goal is not to abuse them. The goal is to kill them quickly and painlessly as possible. We aren't subhuman savages. Death is enough of a punishment. Don't relish in mutilation. They can't trouble us again once they are dead.

>>127904154
The satisfaction from a hanging is better.

>>127904472
nice bait.

My great grandfather used to tell us stories of watching public hangings in 1910's Delaware. Every few months someone was hanged in the capitol Dover and it always drew huge crowds. Sounded like a pretty swell time

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>>127907118
>Here you can see the difference between European culture and third world barbery

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>>127904154
I got nothin'.

Wow... hardest question I've been asked all day.

>>127904154
no pro tip?

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>>127904154
Modern necks are simply too thick.

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>>127904154

Make the executions public and you have a deal

>>127904710
Technically you're dead when your heart stops.

>>127904154
Blood everywhere. You feel like cleaning that up? Because I don't. Just hang them or something.

>>127904710
no. you are knocked unconcious almost instantaniously

>>127908038
>not doing it over dirt instead of concrete

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Why not just use nitrogen or helium? Since they're inert gases it's makes death nothing more than a dream sleep they never wake up from?

It's arguably the least painful way to die and liberals would praise it, allowing for the taboo to quickly gain appreciation?

If you make death ugly and scary then people won't support the death penalty as much.

>>127908625
If you make death ugly and scary people quit doing the things that will warrant them that death

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After inhalation of pure nitrogen it takes about 15 seconds to the unconsciousness and after 1-6 minutes you are over the Jordan. Experiments in pressure chambers, where the O2 share of more nitrogen gave way, that these people were euphoric and self-assured for the duration of the lack of oxygen and thought about how close they were to death in reality.Just saying

>>127904154
Because the french revolution was the greatest fiasco ever recorded in history.

>>127908799
Wrong.

Making punishments scare doesn't deter crime, look at pedophile incarceration rate in result with stricter sentences.

Criminals need mental help or a noose. Simply locking them up isn't going to cure them.

>>127905974
13th amendment. It allows the slavery of prisoners or convicted criminals.

>>127904154
why is blade angled on all guillotines? wouldn't it work just as well if it were horizontal?

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>>127907666
Well said, satan

>>127904154
Because dogs are more effective, ask Reese

>>127907666
>European culture
I'm an American mongrel. The line is a little blurred. I may be of wholly European blood but I'm a subhuman due to my 10% Iberian blood, 30% Irish blood, and 3% Slav blood. You really don't want to associate with a mutt like me.

>>127909415
Fuck no.

>>127909244
>Who wants psychopathic animals as slaves?
I think you have not thought through the whole thing.
You have cost, medicine nutrition
You need 24 hours of arming
You have to segregate the other slaves ...

>>127904154
It's the perfect execution device, it's crazy that no countries use it. Amerilards make an absolute mess of their executions in which they just pump the condemed full of drugs whereas frogs were nailing their executions perfectly back in the 18th century.

>>127909415
It makes a horizontal cut instead of doing it all at once, google search makes an analogy to cutting a cucumber straight up and down versus at an agle

>>127905974
Fuck's sake let them serve the state and do something useful. Way better for everyone than a confined space.

>>127909755
I have talked of culture and not of race (I am just a dreamer who hopes the culture can also be accepted by non-Europeans, was this now arrogant?)
> Actually, Europeans are socially (at least human)

>>127905974
Why did I have to be born in the most cucked country?

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>>127909556
>I like the way you think

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>>127910711
>this now arrogant?
No. Just very optimistic.

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>>127911173
That was good old German Humor.

you understand ;)

Daily reminder guillotines will be brought back in the end times to execute Christians that don't take the mark of the beast

>>127912045
The sign of the beast?
How is this supposed to look?
Only that I know when we first have to give a nitrogen "supply"

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>>127904154
Well, "Day of the Blade" sounds better than "Day of the Rope"

>>127912436
It's likely a chip that's inserted in your skin

Cheka style is quick and efficient

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>>127912436
It looks like this

Think about it for a moment. You're walking up the platform knowing there is no possible way of getting out of your situation. You kneel and rest your neck on the half circle of death and wait until you hear the rope chopped and the blade rushing toward you at high speed knowing you're fucked and everything in your life has led up to this exact moment.

People thought it inhumane for those seconds of hearing the blade come ever closer to your neck

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>>127904154

Watch that edge

>>127912720
a chip or a barcode? Waht is exactly written? Mark of the beast looks like a...?

>>127904154
France likes this

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>>127912831
This?

>>127910777
My thoughts exactly..

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>>127914040
welcome to the club

>>127904154

Because it is French, and hanging people at Tyburn is cheaper.

>>127904154

Because it's quick and gay. If you wanna send a message via decapitation, use an ironworker's shear. Same end result, slow and savory-like.

>>127904154
No one should be above the lawn

>>127904154
Not painful enough.

>>127914948
What about Mexico?

>>127907118

>the goal is not to abuse them

Yeah, for you maybe. Death-sentence worthy actions inflict pain and suffering on the victims or their survivors well beyond the criminal's death. Simply removing them isn't justice enough.

Best solution: let the victim or victim's family choose the appropriate method of execution. If anyone should have a say in how much suffering is "just" for the criminal, it should be them, not any of us.

Rope is cheaper.

>>127915652
The goal is to remove them from society, not fulfill bloodthirsty pleasure. I'm all for revenge, but I only want them dead.

>>127908180

>not doing it on an open-roofed cell where the rest of death row waits below, with warm reminders of their fuckups showering from above

>The device is best known for its use in France, in particular during the French Revolution, where it was celebrated as the people's avenger by supporters of the revolution and vilified as the pre-eminent symbol of the Reign of Terror by opponents

too progressive

>>127916658
Yes, Ivan. We all know you prefer the bullet and drain method.

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>>127904154
don't worry (((they))) are gonna bring it back and use it liberally

>>127916658
What of our cost effective methodology of the rope, it's quick of done right and breaks the subjects neck, and if they really deserve it you can count on the hangman to both the rope so they gag a little first.

>>127909415
Compare cutting a piece of meat by just pushing the knife straight downwards with doing a slight pushing/pulling motion while pushing it downwards.

>>127904154
Too many kikes in power at the moment

>>127904154
we should bring it back

>>127916334

What you want in a situation as severe as these is largely irrelevant in contrast to the people directly impacted by it. If a nigger killed my mother, I wouldn't give a flying fuck what you thought about how I intend to exact revenge, nor is it any of your business, nor do I see the current cucked example of letting the state handle such extremely personal affairs as acceptable.

>>127917528
Oh I certainly agree. If someone killed someone close to me I would certainly go after them. But I would stop when their heart stops.

>>127908799
So why do even the worst prisons have inmates?
Shouldn't the scary idea of going into a hellhole make people think twice?

Truth is, it doesn't work.

You can come up with even the most cruel ideas for execution, but people will still murder and steal.

It's why European prisons went from full on punishing people to rehabilitating them.
It leads to smaller reincarceration rates.

You need to teach and educate people, not hit them with sticks in hopes that they wont do it again.

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It's too messy

>>127917993
>Shouldn't the scary idea of going into a hellhole make people think twice?
Niggers have friends in prison

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>>127904472
>less efficient than cutting a head off

What the fuck !?

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>>127904154
I've had this conversation even with my mom. A guillotine is one of the most humane ways you could ever go out. Unless I die in my sleep peacefully, I think my second most favored method would be to be guillotined. quick and painless.

It certainly seems better than all the debacles we've had with chemicals recently. Sure it might be gory and gross, but it's about as quick and easy as you can get

>>127918096
Reeeeeeeee

>>127918808
I don't know. Exposure to cold is a pretty easy way to go if we are talking about suicide. As an execution method exposure is terrible.
I know that's how I'd go out if I get something I can't recover from.

>>127908180
It still smells up the place retard.

>>127919502
expose to cold is way more painful than a guillotine though. If you are actually committed to suicide and are also handy just build your own guillotine out in the woods with a string that lets you pull it down yourself.

>>127919866
Just my preference. Exposure is high on my lists of ways I would off myself if I suffered severe enough injury to know I was going to die.

Because weirdly enough I'd rather not watch someone being beheaded. That's just me, though.

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>>127909415
Even with the angled blade there were occurrences where more than one drop was required with the French model guillotine. The best and most efficient model was the fallbiel, which was crafted in the third Reich by the order of Adolf Hitler.
>see link for a replica demo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IO929mDUXsQ

>>127913037
It's something you receive when you worship the image of the beast...there's too many different theories on it desu senpai.

>>127917844

I would too, that's the point of the execution. I'm saying take the kid gloves off of the method used to achieve that. Our entire concept of justice is based off of what we believe is acceptable retaliation for wrongdoing, and in the case of death-sentence worthy crimes, the cost to the victims and family can only be measured by the victim and family, not the state, and definitely not onlookers and casual observers. The concept of removal by death is the outcome agreed upon as a betterment for society (though tentatively). The method of removal should be left to the victims.

>>127917993

>Truth is, it doesn't work

It doesn't work because it isn't set up to work. Our current prison system does jack shit aside from serve as a place for Tyrone and Co. to hang out on the taxpayer's dollar, for Ahmed to recruit more people to the """"religion of peace""""", for degen biker fags to LARP as nazis, for Julio to enlist new MS-13 members, and for the prison guards to bitch about and unionize over, while the prison owners cram as many people in as possible at low cost to hold a profit margin.


Even at the very few instances where death penalty is intended to be used, the inmate gets to dick around for 10 years appealing the sentence on taxpayer's money, while armies of lefty cucks shriek "he dindu nuffin", gets the support of groups like the ACLU, and EVEN THEN if they're found completely guilty and deserving of death, we sit here and bitch about if killing them with certain chemicals is "inhumane" to a being clearly deemed as less than human simply because they shake a little during the process.

TL,RD: Prison doesn't work because it's only a scary hellhole to normies. To degenerates and criminals it's just part and parcel of "muh struggle". Prison should be focused on separating the redeemable from the deplorable, the former receiving the help and education you describe, the latter receiving a gruesome end fitting of their lifestyle.

Because a headsman with an axe is more badass.

>>127918096
d

>>127920859
But that usually took 2-3 chops. I think you could bribe the executioner to do it in one tho

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>>127904154
>On 4 chan
>Not aware of gas chambers

Capital punishment is immoral.

>>127921530
>wooden doors
>delousing to prevent typhus epidemics
Gas chambers are Mexican cartel tier.

>>127921672
How is God supposed to judge him while he's still on Earth though?

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>>127904154
Destruction of government property is illegal.

>>127904154
>subhuman low empathy racist psychopaths getting off on the deaths of people
Checks out

I think you'd be one of the first to have the pleasure of being treated by the guillotine

>>127924372
>spic
>calling others psychopaths
Don't you have some faces to peel?

>>127925056
>stormfag low IQ subhuman
>generalizing hundreds of millions of people because muh gore cartel video meme
Checks out, and yes, you are a psychopath subhuman.

>>127921903
Christian morality is practical, it evolved to adapt reality and represents it. Immoral = not in sync with the nature of reality. Capital punishment doesn't work because that's not how reality works, any model of reality that assumes state capital punishment has value is flawed. To start with people in the mental state required to commit serious crimes are not deterred by harsher punishment, in that state of mind they often embrace death as an easy "righteous" way out as seen most clearly in suicides by cop. State sanctioned killing also reduces the perceived moral authority of the state which is not something to be underestimated, if there is no faith in the state it can not function.

>>127906787
>You're nervous system
obvsly not in top shape

>>127925292
>No, YOURE a big stupid Doo Doo head.
At least try to be original hernandez.

an executioner with a sword could cut a head off with a single swing i think.

>>127904154
I wonder how many times they had to pull the blade back up because it got stuck in the person's neck.

>>127904154
I actually agree with you, prison overcrowding could be solved real quick with it.

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>>127904472
>>127904154
how is anything more effective than a firing squad?

>>127926609
>complains about originality
>while generalizing hundreds of millions of people with le stale cartel gore meme
This is strike three

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>>127904154

>>127927107
>he can't read post IDs and thinks its the same person
Kick rocks, Jorge

>>127925292
>Mexico calling America a sub-human

>>127927479
There is nothing distinctively particular about individual stormfags

>>127927537
Yes, he's a subhuman who got triggered because my psychopath comment hit too close to home.

>>127922676
Then why are we born into slavery?

>>127928169
What makes me a stormfag? Because I think the guillotine is a good form of execution? Please tell me why you're so triggered, Guillermo

>>127904154
I have no argument against that

>>127904154

arguably more humane than lethal injection, gassing, or electrocution.

>>127927065
As a Mexican, I can assure you that beheading is the most effective way to kill someone.