Life is a balance between two polarities - order and chaos, male

>>127865950
fag.

Nice try shill, get out of here faggot!

>>127866051
>>127866135
Excellent arguments

Stay ignorant and predictable, you are only playing into (((their))) hands

pinocchio nose knows, goyim are so woke these days, veryscary

>>127865950
>You don't have to be a Nazi or fascist to recognize that Zionism is a problem, or that not all tradition and authority should be viewed with contempt.
If you don't fully suppport rapid demographic replacement of white people, you might not be a National Socialist, but you are on their side, and as such you will be violenty attacked by the other side.

>You don't have to be a commie or a SJW to recognize that our current economic system fucks over the many in favor of the corrupt few
If you think more forced redistribution of wealth is the solution, then yes, you do have to be a communist or SJW. Those are just different words for Marxists.

>or that people should be allowed to be judged on individual merit rather than the demographic trends of their entire race.
No one says this. We know individuals exist, and it's our weakness. The left completely ignores individuality and welcomes all non-whites into the country because they know most of them, in general, will vote for the left. They benefit from generalization, and you expect us to champion individualism at the expense of our own race? No. Whites this way, non-whites that way.

>there is plenty of room to respect our heritage and reward self-reliance without overdosing on Yang and devolving into a hateful fascist tyranny that chokes out all compassion and human decency that makes a humane society, or stifles the dynamic chaos that makes life exciting and worth living.
In other words, the left might be wrong, they might be using violence to attack the existence of our race through state control, then institute full blown communism with a weakened populace that will accept it, but we need a little bit of leftism so we don't end up with too much winning. Fuck off. Burn the disease.

>>127865950
Thats a nice fairy tale you got there, are you going to publish it any time soon

>>127865950
>The truth lies
This is awkward verbiage

>>127867908
>If you don't fully suppport rapid demographic replacement of white people, you might not be a National Socialist, but you are on their side, and as such you will be violenty attacked by the other side.
So let them try. Everyone but the retarded left and NatSocs realize that 90% of people aren't either.

>If you think more forced redistribution of wealth is the solution, then yes, you do have to be a communist or SJW. Those are just different words for Marxists.
And what if I don't think that? I do think the current economic system fucks over the many for the few, but that's because the few have institutional power behind them and having a freer market would alleviate the problem to allow for competition.

>No one says this. We know individuals exist, and it's our weakness. The left completely ignores individuality and welcomes all non-whites into the country because they know most of them, in general, will vote for the left. They benefit from generalization, and you expect us to champion individualism at the expense of our own race? No. Whites this way, non-whites that way.
So, why not just gather up your people and move? Go buy an island somewhere. The likelihood of this happening in a major country is pretty much nil and most people realize that it's not necessary.

>In other words, the left might be wrong, they might be using violence to attack the existence of our race through state control, then institute full blown communism with a weakened populace that will accept it, but we need a little bit of leftism so we don't end up with too much winning. Fuck off. Burn the disease.
And this is what's wrong with collectivism. "My side wins, your side loses". You don't think that if Hitler had won, Nazi Germany wouldn't have slid into a shitty situation like Venezuela, just like it does for all socialist systems?

You're grasping for order in a time of chaos and that makes your perspective flawed. You're shooting yourself in the foot with this shit.

>>127865950

Before you start talking like you know everything about life, how long have you lived it?

>>127865950
overdose has a reason, bucko. every nignog reaching europe increases my yang and will continue to do so.

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You should know that yin/yang isn't good/evil. Common whitie mistake.

>If you think more forced redistribution of wealth is the solution, then yes, you do have to be a communist or SJW. Those are just different words for Marxists.
I don't support redistribution. What I do support is monopoly-busting and ending cronyism, to create a genuinely free market, rather than a system which is rapacious towards the environment and the public in order to fill the pockets of (((the banks))) and their allies and puppets.

>In other words, the left might be wrong, they might be using violence to attack the existence of our race through state control, then institute full blown communism with a weakened populace that will accept it, but we need a little bit of leftism so we don't end up with too much winning. Fuck off. Burn the disease.
Ideology is the enemy. The left and the right in their current forms are growing more radical and polarized against each other by the day. This is a classic divide-and-conquer technique. (((They))) know if they can keep both sides radical and divided, convinced that anyone from the "other side" is a demon bent on ruining society, then there will never be a strong enough coalition to unite against the real enemies.

>>127870317
I never said it was. I think chaos vs. order is the best description, both are actually necessary as long as a proper balance can be struck between them.

Think of it like men and women. We may seem to resent each other or even be at cross-purposes, but in reality we are complementary. Neither would exist without the other, and both are necessary in order for new life to be created and for the world to continue to grow and thrive.

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>>127866051
>>127866135
you two are the real shills
>lets stop a political discussion about how to fix the country
what is your end game?
How have you added to (((their))) power?
Why do you come here?
To read about...?
To discuss?
Think about it this way- either have a debate or sage and get the fuck out.
The free thinkers are thinking.

>>127869344
checked.
i cant help but think (you) are Jordan Peterson.
if so i am so happy to have found your videos.
i have 'red-pilled" my wife with your Joe Rogan podcast.
She has listened it at least 3 times while working.

>>127870004
>attacking the debater instead of their ideas
how long have you been alive?
not long enough to debate?

>>127870115
what are you doing to ying the people you come in contact with daily?
ying is a strong force when wielded correctly.
power is knowledge.
words are power.
why not try to speak to the people closest to you about what you see happening and what you think needs to change in a calm and powerful way?

Chaos is just an order you can not understand from your perspective. So there is no real chaos per se. Just something you don't understand and stuff you do.

>>127872190
I can assure you I am not Peterson. I have listened to some of his stuff, though, and I think he's on point for nearly all of it.

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>>127873068
>Chaos is just an order you can not understand from your perspective.
Really makes you think

>>127868537
It's more that both conventional "right" and "left" ideologies hold a portion of the truth to lure people in, then surround it with dogmatic bullshit invented to sow unending conflict. Both sides can hold onto their own forms of self-righteousness while empowering them to completely ignore any truth coming from a "wrong" source. They do this so that true dialogue will never be able to occur, and open dialogue is the only thing that can ever bring about real change.

Read the story of Jesus as recorded in the gospels. Jesus was a total hippie who sided with the poor and the marginalized, AND he called out the evils of the Jewish elites of his day. The story is about what happens when the Spirit of God incarnates into the world and is resisted by the worldly powers of organized religion and the state. The temple and the empire conspire to kill Him, but of course in the end they cannot keep Him dead. Because the true power in this world is the self-emptying sacrificial love, not the scheming hypocrisy of the Temple (Yin, Zionism) or the aggressive hatred of the Empire (Yang, Zionism). Christ transcends both because he is the embodiment of true Creator who is beyond both.

Picture water. In some senses, the most submissive substance imaginable - it will flow through your fingers, fit any container you put it in. Yet nothing can compete with water in terms of domination of the planet - it covers 70% of Earth's surface. It uses this power not as a top-down brute-strength tyrant, but rather to quietly nourish each and every thing that lives.

>>127874590
Life is in constant flux, it is eternally flowing and changing, like a river. All ideologies shoot themselves in the foot by trying to fit everything into a neat and tidy box. The Jews tried to put God in a literal box, the Holy of Holies, but when Christ sacrificed Himself the veil was torn, because God can never be put in a box. It would be like trying to seize the power of the river by running against it or trying to grasp at it. It can't be done. You can only make the power of the river your own by surrendering to the flow that is already there. You build a boat - you maintain control and the ability to steer (Yang) but you also learn how to work with the winds and the tides (Yin) in order to get where you want to go.

>>127865950
>TL;DR - the red pills you find on /pol/ can be good medicine, but make sure you don't overdose

Literary nothing on here is for anything other than for laughs. Take what you read here seriously on your own peril.

>>127874590
that should say
>Empire (Yang, nationalism)

>>127873068
True, but there will always be things that exist beyond the horizon of our potential understanding, therefore chaos will always exist.

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>>127874590
When Peterson's most recent lecture gets posted, you will see him identify the separation of the capstone from the pyramid as a symbol of transcendence above the entire set of dominance hierarchies. He mentions that artists regularly inhabit this space. Fascinating talk.

>>127865950


if the eternal jew and women represent chaos, then /pol/ would be filled with them.

this isn't what i got from JBP at all.

>>127877076
Well the modern left in America functions a lot of the time as crypto-fascism and censorship. And modern feminism fails because for the most part they are trying to recast femininity in the mold of masculinity (strong independent woman! women deserve more worldly power!) rather than recognizing the things that are genuinely valuable about femininity itself.