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Why are men so obsessed with women? I mean, they are very polygamous

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Why are men so obsessed with women? I mean, they are very polygamous creatures and it is really hard to trust a man, especially with and easy access to pornography which is consumed even in most religiously radical countries. Even men who say they want only one woman during their lifetime still have many photos of other whores in their browser history, while women are usually emotionally attached to only one man. This is sad somehow.
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>>127842689

MEN are simple and want a good home and homemaker to come back to

It's a shame women today are incapable of showing enough humility to start a family and make a better future
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>>127842689

I'm obsessed with women because I'm that simple. But I'm not obsessed with feminists. They can fuck right off.
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>>127842689
I dont care about emotional attachment, i care about my partner not having sex with other people.
And if you consider masturbation cheating then i suggest you suck my dick whenever im horny or fuck off.
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>>127842820
But they would still cheat that homemaker with thousands of other women but somehow it's ok as long as they are on the screen.
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>>127842689
>Why are men so obsessed with women?
not me. I think masturbation and fetishism is separate to my social life, and I don't enjoy socialising with women who paint their faces and hair. So until I find a magical island of make-up free women I guess it's the fudge factory for me.
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>>127842948
It is not cheating if you don't look at other women or imagine other women during it.
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>>127842689

>women are usually emotionally attached to only one man

kek

>even men who say they want only one woman during their lifetime still have many photos of whores in their browser history

>implying me getting rocks off means I have an emotional connection to pics in a computer

top kek

>sage
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>>127843024
Im sorry but as a sexual animal i dont get hard looking at a wall my friend.
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>>127843024
>>127843085
Am i supposed to watch animals go at it and jerk off to that?
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>>127842952
are you the kind of bitch who kills their boyfriend because you had a dream he cheated?

jesus christ you don't OWN his sperm or his eyes. Cheating means having a child with another woman, raising another family. If your whole relationship is just based on control over his sex organs that makes you a crazy person.
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>>127843085
I mean, your own woman.
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>>127843146

Omg BECKY??
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>>127842820
Did you even read what op asked?

Did you seriously answered the question of men's infidelity with women being shitty homemaker?
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>>127842689
fuck off with pornography you weak slut of your lust..thats the reason of your obsession.
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>>127843140
you're not supposed to jerk off at all, just do what women tell you and they "might help"
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Becuz girls are soft and warm and wear cute things and talk nice and have nice laughs, and nothing feels better than a loving caress from your woman. Plus pussy is literally God's gift to man
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>>127842689
>Its another episode of i hate biomechanics, reality and evolution.
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>>127843146
I wouldn't kill anyone but if he owns me than I own him, too. Looking at porn and perfectly shaped sluts is something that makes many women depressed and killing their will to live.
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>>127843146

Right, and if we're going down this road, since this anon clearly has trouble understanding 'ownership'. I don't think any man here would mind if our sperm was 'owned' and in turn we would demand to fuck you anytime we wanted, including the realm of rape.
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>>127842689
>women are usually emotionally attached to only one man
Emotionally attached, perhaps.
Sexually attached, notsomuch.
And therein lies the rub.
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>>127843146
Why do you need to whore around here? Nobody is impressed. Plz go away.
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>>127842689
>Why are men so obsessed with women?
Neurotransmitters
It's the same reason why opioid addicts are obsessed with opiates.
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>>127842689
I barely even think of women if they're not in my presence. 4chan has changed my sexual fantasies.
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>>127843183
Not everyone has a vivid enough imagination to induce ANY sort of feeling let alone get your dick hard.
There is a reason not everyone on this planet is creating mind blowing art.
I know every word of my favorite song and i know how the instruments sound, but actually hearing it is what produces the feeling that others cannot compare.
>>127843272
Wow so i obey and i MIGHT PERHAPS POSSIBLY get something that i need multiple times a week, every month? Sounds like a great life.
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i want all white women blacked
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>>127843265

It takes a strong woman to run a home.

Maybe you're not strong enough
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>>127843512
>Wow so i obey and i MIGHT PERHAPS POSSIBLY

the alternative is passive aggressive bitching.
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>>127842689
Are you gay? It's okay, you can admit it.
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>what is genetics
wew
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its proven that niggers and women have the brain size of a scrotum
women and niggers should nt have the right to vote and its proven that their brains are smaller
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>>127842820
The majority of women want to stay at home and be mothers, you won't know that because you have never spoken to one and have never had a relationship. You just read shit on the Internet. What a bizzare existence that must be, basing your life on what you read online.
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>>127843579
Are you a single mom? That kind that posts memes about how much she loves her kids?
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>>127843522
niggers and women have smaller brains and its proven also the biggest dicks in the world are white all top 3 13inch and above nigger
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>>127843626
The alternative is not forming a relationship with a woman that doesnt sexually satisfy me when im horny if masturbation is cheating.
And bonding with a woman that doesnt think like that and luckly most of them dont.
>>127843822
Yeah once theyre too old to party and run out of cash. I assure you that your chance of finding a stay at home mother thats under 25 is incredibly unlikely where as finding a stay at home mother thats above 40 is incredibly likely.
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>>127843960
yes but average black dick is around 9-10 inches while average white dick is around 5. why would white women ever chose white men over such horse dick rly makes my neurons firing.
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It's because I wanna fucking nut, and I like thicc women
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>>127843781
I love how the Israeli posters on here go super, super hard right, super brutal, to overcompensate, just like the leafs.

"I'm one of you guys. Srsly!!!11"
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>>127842689

>why does life want to reproduce

If I was your father I'd commit sudoku in shame right now.
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women make you feel sexual, sexuality is life.
without women you feel asexual, asxuality is death.

btw. mgtow is a joke, because they always talk like they are forced into all this shit, when they are not.
the ones who married most likely laughed and single guys before they got married, so they basically most likely deserved it.
if you chase illusions, it's your own fault.

good thing that some mgtows focus on finding out truth, not on women-hate.

it's like buying a car and being mad at the oil prices, while some people think about the oil prices BEFORE they buy a car.

also so many men who claim women only care about money and that "women are bitches", are the same who don't want to date "that ugly girl".
it's like they have the exact same character as the bitches they date.
"women don't even notice me, because i'm not the perfect man".
meanwhile they don't notice women who aren't perfect.

i'm not defending women at all, just saying that mgtows hate women because they still chase the bitches and dismiss every women who is not "hot".
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>>127842689

because physically one man can get thousands of women pregnant with no biological cost to him in the time it takes a woman to carry one pregnancy to term, so a man has to work to get a womans approval and a woman has to work to keep a man loyal

that's all there is to the different genders, that we're mammals, and if you don't like it fuck off and live with some fish or something
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>>127844071
Nice try tryone - but I'd not expect a nigger to research anything anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size#Size_and_race
"The belief that penis size varies according to race is not supported by scientific evidence."
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>>127842689
>while women are usually attached to only one man
>coming from croatia

Kek
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>>127844450
even if its myth most of the people still believes it, if you ask anyone if its truth they will say yes. even here when we have no blacks i heard many times people saying that nig nogs have horse dicks so women lust for them naturaly.
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>>127844117
its not far right you beta its proven they have smaller brains look it up
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>>127844413
>so a man has to work to get a womans approval and a woman has to work to keep a man loyal
This is sad, love should be unconditional. Staying loyal to someone should be the norm and man shouldn't have to work, have money etc. just to get a woman's approval. She's not a princess and shouldn't be treated as such.
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>>127844611
I've heard people say the world is flat.
Doesn't make it true.
And tricking a woman is about as easy as beguiling a baby. Don't attribute intelligence where none exists.
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>>127844737
(((Proven))) hey?
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>>127844412
About the whole ugly girl thing.
I have a very broad spectrum of whats attractive to me, physically.
My only standards for a woman are to be of compatible character and to not make me want to puke everytime i see her. I dont care about the money, i dont care about social hierarchy, i dont care about what she can do for me as i do nothing for her. There are alot of things i can go over but looking in a way that upsets me is something i cannot, sorry not sorry.
And as far as women go ive dated some pretty fucked up broken imperfect women and showed them the best i possibly could.
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>>127844780

You sound either underaged or terribly naive when it comes to relationships. Most women care very much about the material aspects of a relationship, love doesn't pay the bills Croatia. Furthermore, if either a man can't provide both Financial or sexual incentive to stay, the female generally will cheat. Thats just how the world works.
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>>127843272
I've dated the same chick for about 6months - fuck maybe 3x a week and never masterbate. Banging the same person does get repetitive and... A process
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>>127844058
What man wants to settle down and have kids before 25? Are you insecure about a woman having previous partners?
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>>127844071
What are you smoking lad.
Have you got a nigger cock fetish that's rotted your brain?
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>>127845226
This is the right answer.
Men are romantics parading as realists.
Women are realists parading as romantics.
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>>127845226
I am not naive, I'm just not a bitch.
>love doesn't pay the bills Croatia.
This is something my bf always tells me and sometimes even says I should find someone rich and than it makes me want to commit sucide. Why can't I be with him even though he's poor? I'm pretty cheap, I can survive on canned food for months, I don't need brand new clothes etc.
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When I have kids, I hope I have daughters desu. Women in this day and age become more rounded and stronger human beings than most men. Just look at you fucks in this thread.
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>>127844412
>>127845059
Furthermore this girl i dated had an ex boyfriend and she would talk about him alot and it actually have me an interesting insight, every positive thing she ever attributed to him would be tied to the fact that within his group of friends he was the one making decisions and telling others what to do through violence.
And her eyes wouldnt light up more no matter what i say, compared to when she noticed im the same within my group of friends. Whenever i tried to say, though i am "core" of my friend group were all pretty equal and generally noone tells anyone what to do, she wasnt as happy.
>>127845260
The longer you wait before you have a child the higher are the risk of it being mentally unstable.
The more partners a woman has ( though this depends on the form of the partnership ) the higher are the chances that shell divorce you.
The earlier the divorce happens to a child in his life the higher are the chances that hell be mentally unstable.

t. Single mother who had me after her 30s with diagnosed depression, schizophrenia, anxiety
t. Anecdotal evidence but there are statistics that happen to agree with my situation and imply that im not a minority.
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>>127845252
It doesn't, if you love them and find the attractive. Sex is 1000 times better with someone you love. Much more intense.
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>>127845316
he is a homo nigger worshiper
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>>127845475
We can only make rules and processes to fit the majority.
The majority of women act how the previous posts stated. If you're not in that....95%+ group, then awesome for your bf. But to make plans based upon your outlier behaviour is a fools' game.
Most women are hypergamous without even being aware of it - it pays for a man to understand this when going into a relationship.
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>>127845475
Being a small minority does not make the fact that a large majority acts in the exact polar opposite.
Personally i dont even need canned food.
Bread sour cream and chilly sauce with milk could literally be 3 meals of my day untill i die and ill be satisfied.
But most men like to dig their teeth into a nice juicy piece of fucking meat.
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>>127843731
Is she Asian and white? Pretty hot. Also what is that flag
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>>127845490
majority women is the reason the west is falling apart
women dont invent/create and they vote for rapefugees
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>>127845599
Can you create love or is there already a "cap" between certain people?
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>>127845980
What do you mean exactly?
It's hard to say whether two people will fall in love.
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>>127845980
Id like to believe that love comes from understanding or complete misunderstanding.
You can love something for it is so far out of your mental reach and you can love something for you know everything about it and you find it loveable, but this is the rationality of it.
The reality of it is that you have women in ridiculously abusive relationships they can get out of with no issues, yet they stay in them and say they "Cannot explain it but they feel love" , also the concept of love at first sight.

Rational love: Going strong unlimited amounts of time untill the person changes
Irrational love: Going strong even if the person changes but not for a very long time

This is my understanding but, as a person that never felt such a thing as irrational love, i dont know how valid my explanations are.
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>>127845543
many people look for a partner that makes up for their deficits.
the cute/feminine/passive girl who can't open her mouth and always follows the crowd is looking for a man who's having a big mouth and rules over others.
love is completely different. because love challenges you to get your own stuff together, because your partner regrets to fill your gap.
filling someones gap is always a burden (like paying for a woman who's bad with finances / or loving a men who can not feel anything and wants a woman to have something "feminine" in his live).

example:
a woman wants sex and has bad finances. she finds an attractive man with much money.
but he's also a workaholic. when he wants sex it's only when he is in the mood and it's always short sex without foreplay and she has to do all the work (blowjobs etc.)
she's paying by sacrificing her sexual needs for having money.

if you'd really love her, you wouldn't pay anything for her. if she really loves you, she wouldn't just fullfil you your sexual needs, unless you open up to sexuality completely. (not just 10 minutes of sex and an orgasm)
if both regret to do this, all they can have is a trade, but not love.

that's what i mean when i say love challenges you to change yourself.
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>>127843345
>Looking at porn and perfectly shaped sluts is something that makes many women depressed and killing their will to live
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>>127846550
Well that seems to be a real big issue when you look at the fact that the most things women are insecure of are: her status, her looks which tie to the status and not how much money she makes, but rather how much money her partner makes, which also ties to the status. And their whole shtick is looking good to attract a male that will boost her status so she can talk shit to her other, mindless, friends. Most of the time anyway.

I do agree that insecurity in humans is too dominant and too unhealthy for relationships, but i dont see a way around that.
And either way 2 people working together to fix them is better than 1 person doing it by themselves. A love interest can inspire you better than you can inspire yourself sometimes.
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>>127842689
>This is sad somehow.
Hahaha, women are fucking whores. Men are polygamous BECAUSE women are sluts.
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>>127843345
Yeah, sucks that only men have unrealistic standards of attraction.
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>>127842689
>women are usually emotionally attached to only one man
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>>127847109
>insecurity in humans is too dominant and too unhealthy for relationships
Unfortunately. I can't stop being jealous of other girls, even if people tell me 100 times I'm pretty, I just can't stop. Maybe because I don't care about anyone else except my bf's opinion and I've recently found some photos of whores he clicked in 'my activity' on gmail account. This is why I made this thread, out of desperation.
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>>127847286
Women have them too, but I personally don't so I expect my lover to be the same as me - content with my looks as I am with his.
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>>127847286
Train for a year with weights and you'll be he-man to most women.>>127847478
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>>127847286
What's wrong with wanting to be He-Man? He's alpha af
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>>127847698
You're confusing a guy's need to get off - which is all porn does - with a guy being attracted to you.
Porn just aids in jacking off - which guys often do multiple times a day. It's an urge that is uncomfortable unless dealt with - and that's where porn comes in.
The chick in porn? She disappears the second your bf gets his rocks off. It's transient, utterly emotionless, and not a threat to you in the least.
Unless you keep going down the "porn is cheating" path you're leaning, in which case you'll be shitcanned for being controlling. And that is absolutely valid.
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>>127847478
Didn't mean to reply to this faggot.
>>127847789
Now that I did, I may as well reply.
Women can become attached to one man, you just need to know what you're doing. Most people eventually realise they will be more content being with one person.
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>>127847910
bullshit - he couldn't even kick a skeleton's ass properly.
It's like losing a fight to aids skrillex.
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>>127847789
Doesn't mean they still won't sleep around. But you're probably right; why play the monogamy game if no one else is? Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack.
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>>127847910
Joking aside, this is the proper answer, and the difference between men and women.
A man sees heman, wants to be better than him.
A woman see barbie, and wants her to be as fat as she is.
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>>127844412
>sexuality is life

Life is what you make it. If you want your whole life to be about sex, that's your choice.
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>>127847515
So youre insecure and you project that in a form of a thread that would help you shift the blame from yourself onto others. Its something alot of people do, not just women. But hopefully you see the issue.

Ill give you my anecdotal story. I am ridiculously mentally ill and emotionally unstable if there were olympics, maybe i wouldnt win a medal but id qualify for the olympic team. And i would masturbate fairly often while in a relationship with this certain girl. It was her birthday during the summer and it was about 40 degrees celsius outside. I have severe anxiety and taking buses is no option for me, so i walked about 5 kilometers at 40 degrees on foot, to go to her place for her birthday. I was fairly quiet during it because the only people present where her female friends and i found it uninteresting. And then i walked home, again, 40 degrees, on foot, 5 kilometers.
During the walk there and back, i was incredibly close to passing out about 4 times out of the heat, because i handle it badly, handle cold super well, heat not so much.
And i get home and this girl texts me that she wants to split up because i "dont love her."

Now im not bitter, its true, i didnt love her. I cannot feel that emotion, i never have. And i cannot feel alot of emotions that normal people do. But would any sane person walk 10 kilometers total at such heat just to be in a place they dislike for that person? Back then i masturbated every single day sometimes multiple times a day. I still tried my best.

Just because someone sees a pretty woman and likes the way she looks doesnt seem he will immediately try to be unfaithful because of her. ITs possible but i doubt its that dominant
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>>127847286
All I saw in my childhood was Asexuality (daily school life, family etc.), that's why I watched porn. If you watch porn you start to believe that looks or fetishes are the only thing that makes you hard.
If you start to have real experience you begin to know that there is a huge difference between what it looks like and what it feels like.
Sadly if you never can make this experience, you will always be trapped in having high standards regarding looks, because you believe this is the only way to enjoy a partnership.
That's also why nerds and outsiders very often fall in love with the hottest bitches, because they have the least real life experience.
I usually heard the guys in school who were getting the most pussy ranting about women being annoying, immoral, having bad characters etc.
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>>127848056
The option to sleep around is also open to you. Assuming you're both decent people, love each other, and have a shared goal of building a life together, you won't. If a woman decides to be with one man man in this day and age, it's not because her parents or society forced her to, it's because she wants to.
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>>127847967
The fact that he gets turned on by some worthless slut is just depressing af :(
And I am different than pornsluts in every single way, my ideals, my values, everything.
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>>127843345
Yeah it's true anon, porn is a shit
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>>127847515
males want to pregno every female, female only want to get pregnoed by the best male. Female can only get pregnoed every year, male can pregno every day. For female it is important to get best pregnoer because of this, for male it is not so important.
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>>127842689
maybe its biology that attracts us to women, idk because i got an F in biology lol
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>>127848475
Yep - and that's why he's with you.
Pornsluts are..masturbation fodder, nothing more. Tits, ass, twat, and done.
Women never seem to understand that jacking off, to guys, has no real emotional component. It's like cracking your knuckles, only a lot more enjoyable. There is no entanglement between the chick fucking on screen you're getting off to, and someone you'd like to be with.
You'll start to understand as you get older, or at least come to terms with it. If you don't, it'll destroy your relationship - I've seen it (and been through it) time and again. He's not going to stop jacking off - no guy in his prime is. Nor can he....nofap fuckers be damned.
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>>127848268
Women can really be ungrateful and I notice they are more likely to break up for some stupid shit than men.
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>>127849142
Yeah thats true, its mostly because they can just get another man super easily and can just try them all out until they find one that works.
With a man its more like find a suitable partner and then try to impress it. Its not walk up and wait for partners to impress you and decide who is suitable that way.
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>>127849142
That's because they can. Look at tinder - even the biggest fucking landwhale will have a ton of guys sniffing around her.
For guys on tinder, you really have to up the game.
Women have options, and can exercise them regularly. A lot of dudes don't.
So, women can (and do) break up with men for stupid fucking reasons. Because as long as they come out looking good socially, it really has no impact on them.
Interesting you're Croatian - one of the few women I've ever known and been with who was worth anything at all was Croatian. She had a wonderful outlook on life and relationships...I really miss having her around.
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>>127848730
But they sometimes look differently than me. How would you feel if you caught your gf watching blacked shit and you're white or someone who has bigger sexual organ than you? I immediately think he regrets me not having something those sluts have, even though it's 90 % plastic.
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>>127849538
and that's why in a healthy relationship, you pretend not to know he's beating it to porn, and he pretends he's not.
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>>127848475
If you take care of your man properly, he won't watch porn. >>127848592
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>>127842689
>Why are men so obsessed with women?
because they have holes made for dick and smell nice
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>>127849633
porn is shit, but even with your woman taking care of you, sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands.
My wife is available anytime anywhere. But sometimes it's nice to simply not have to worry about what the other person is thinking/feeling/etc. Just...fap and move the fuck on.
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>>127845407

>leaf wasn't a complete fag today
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>>127849538
I advise you to get a handle on your insecurities. Stress is very unhealthy and will hinder you in your efforts to serve your husband properly.

That said, it is totally reasonable to expect your partner to not watch porn or masturbate to other women, even in his mind. You should be the object of his desire, and he should relieve his sexual energy together with you.

Unfortunately, due to a number of (((factors))), many men seem unsatisfied with even a good partner, and turn to things like porn. It also happens with women - they cheat in mind and body more often than men do. All we can do is attempt to educate.
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>>127849628
I don't watch porn anymore. When Mrs anon isn't around and I'm horny, I'll watch videos I've made of her or she has made for me.
Or I'll just wait until she comes home from work.
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>>127849759
The orgasm is always better when they wank you off though tbqh.
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>>127849955
absolutely. It's the mental shit I need a break from, not the physical release.
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>>127850043
Does she not make you videos or wear sexy outfits for you so you can take pictures, etc? I have a collection of kinky outfits for Mrs Anon. Nurse (which is her actual job), police woman, you name it.
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>>127842689
You must be daft if you don't realize that humans are animals. Men are "obsessed" with women because it's part of their instincts and behavioral patterns to find a mate and reproduce.

Reproducing is the most important aspect of life, male animals and insects in the wild kill eachother for mates.

Humans are as much animal as a dog or a cat, we're not any better only difference is that we're highly creative social pack apes and that's why we've risen to "civilization".
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>>127842689

>Why are men so obsessed with women?

Instinct, you can't engage in the purpose of your existence (procreation) without a woman, same reason women are obsessed with men.

>I mean, they are very polygamous creatures and it is really hard to trust a man

Thats an opinion

>Even men who say they want only one woman during their lifetime still have many photos of other whores in their browser history, while women are usually emotionally attached to only one man

If you're having emotional ties to pictures of people you don't even know that you jack off to usually imagining somebody else then you've got something wrong with you
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>>127850406
She'll do anything I ask her to.
However, when married for 20 years...you really run out of ideas as you've gone through them all (within reason - no fucking watersports, for example...no fucking thank you) a dozen dozen times already.
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>>127842689
Well aside your cute idealistic fantasies about women, they cheat almost as much as men in the modern world. Also rather than making a shitty thread on my repeating number generator website how about you read about evolutionary biological differences between men and women on the internet first, that should answer all your questions
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>>127849628
We've been pretending for 5 years. And then I started to doubt it and logged into his gmail account. He logged into mine 6 months ago and didn't find anything ofc, it made him mad to know I was the one more honest and probably it made him feel gulity.
>>127849824
But he's a hypocrite when it come sto porn. I asked him what he would do if I watched porn and he found out, he said he would break up immediately, and I'm still here even after finding something he always claimed to be against, jews made it, it destroys love etc. Yeah, I see how it destroyed mine a little bit.
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Woman be beautiful af, and sometimes even with a good personality. Nothing worse than getting close then drifting apart with good woman for a reason you don't understand. It's basically the food argument, people be fat because food is just so damn good nowadays.
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>>127850828
>it made him mad
I think the only solution now is for you to post your tits. That way, other guys are getting off to you the same way he's getting off to other women.
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>>127850828
You should leave him, it sounds like you have a lot of pent up frustration and resentment about him. I doubt this is about the porn at all. You resent him for all sorts of things and you're just using this porn thing as a substrate for that.
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>>127842952
I actually agree with you. Looking at porn while in a relationship is absolutely degenerate and should be considered cheating by everyone who even remotely considers themselves white.
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>>127842968

A smile is the best make-up any girl can wear :3
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>>127842689
2 make babbu ivan jr
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>>127842689
Because I don't like there being two penises involved when I have sex.
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>>127851099
What is the substitute though?
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>>127851027
I wouldn't like to do it. Also, I'm not sure whether he really is getting off, he said he watched it for educational purposes, but somehow I don't believe it.
>>127851034
This is actually only about porn. I love him so much that I want him to be perfect and perfect men don't look at porn, but such men don't exist so what can i do...Maybe some, but I don't want some religious fundamentalist.
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>>127851549
You got her don't you?
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>>127844117
>truth == far right

I see we have ourselves a retard among us, folks.
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>>127851673
Well if the sex is available 80% of the time i want it the way i want it there is no issue.
But from what i hear people that are in arelationship after awhile start having less and less sex usually. And more often than not that less sex is just between them, because they NEED IT, and they simply go out and get it elsewhere.
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>>127851576
If you really loved him and didn't have pent up frustration from some other facet of your relationship you wouldn't be getting this worked up over him watching porn.

Porn is wrong, and harmful, and I agree it is akin to cheating. If this is important to you, leave him. But remember that every notch on your partner count belt represents a degradation of your worth as a girl.
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>>127848475
Why do people pretend to be females? What pleasure do they get out of it?
There are hardly any girls on 4chan, and the few that are don't browse /pol/.
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>>127851576
He's not watching it for educational purposes. He's watching to get his rocks off. To slutty chicks - it's the only reason to watch it.
And payback is always gratifying - hence why posting your tits would make you feel better on a gutteral level.
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>>127842689
>pussy
It's delicious.
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>>127851893
I already said I was a very jealous person and if porn didn't exist, I would be the happiest person in relationship. This way, I always think I'm not good enough.
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>>127845475
Ah, if only more women were like you....You're bf is a very lucky man.
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>>127847967
>wtf i don't know why sex with my gf is so dull now i only jerk off to 5 different sluts per day and have 12 pairs of titties floating around in my mind at any one moment lol what could be the cause of this strain in the relationship??

You are pathetic.
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>>127852091
It wouldn't actually and it would make me feel like a whore which is something I'm not.
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>>127842689
I love you woman! Hug....hug
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>>127852390
Why are you discussing your relationship with us here instead of discussing it with your partner?
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>>127850655
Sounds like you both need a holiday m8.
Somewhere private.
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>>127852382
Your opinion means so much to me.
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>>127852279
If it wasn't porn he would be fantasising in his mind, about girls he has seen out and about.

As I said, you need to deal with your insecurities. It's really important. Practice introspection, improve yourself if needed. Men can be far more intensely loyal than women, it's how we evolved. Men are the ones who really need to worry about cheating because it's in womens' hardware to seek out men with greater or novel genetic material regardless of whether she's in a committed relationship or not.
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>>127843960
OY VEY!!!!!!! STOP IT!!!
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>Expecting men to be productive when they can't get sex / a woman.
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>>127852557
I already did and he thinks I forgave him but I just said that because I didn't want him to feel sad. Also, I wanted to hear other men's opinion on watching porn in relationship.
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>>127852786
Well how about you stop being two faced, grow up. Tell him what you mean and fix your own issues and let other people do so themselves.
This thread is far from discussing the topic of pornography in specific and its impact on relationships and its highly attributed to the fact that you are constantly not participating in the topic, but rather making it about yourself.
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>>127851549
Save that pent up hornyness for your gf and then passionately fuck while looking eachother in the eyes.

Also, always cum deep in your girl. That is the main way women get the hormone that makes cuddling after sex feel special.
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4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.
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>>127852996
But it is related to the topic somehow, my problem was only the reason why I made it. And I don't even know how I started talking specifically about me, guess I'm just desperate and too broke to pay the therapy lol
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>>127853232
I never got this pent up hornyness thing. I was equally as horny, when horny, during a period of time where i masturbated every day as i was during a period where id masturbate once a month. I might be a minority but if other people are like that simply waiting and not having what you want, when you could have what you want even in a milder form, has no benefits, i guess there is the discipline practice to it but you should practice discipline in other aspects of your life either way.
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>>127853323
>Marrying in a gynocentric society.
>Being chr*stian.
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>>127842689
>Even men who say they want only one woman during their lifetime still have many photos of other whores in their browser history, while women are usually emotionally attached to only one man.

Men are visual, women are emotional. Men need to see a lot of women, men can spread their seed in numerous women. Women bond emotionally with one man (at a time) because they produce the offspring, so they need support from the father.

For some odd reason, most men that are not fathers or relatives to pregnant women are just not interested.
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>>127850828
>he always claimed to be against, jews made it, it destroys love etc.

lol what a fucking hypocritical faggot. Yea, I think you should just leave him. It's not fair if he does that shit and expects you not to do the same. Not how shit goes.
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>>127853534
That's okay. At /pol/ we are private detectives, hackers, therapists, journalists and all sorts of things. Were the last line of help when nothing else does.
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>>127851279
you will never get laid if you talk like that. for the sake of you losing your virginity, stop saying sentences like that.
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>>127853534
Could find some psychologists and listeners online, relationship advice in particular im fairly sure you could find a shit ton of information and places to have a conversation about online so look into that.
It is tied but its anecdotal, even if the same thing is an issue, million people will have a different reason as to why it is so.

Relationships are sacrifice. The chances of finding a perfect one are incredibly small, and then even if you think its perfect the other might not. Sacrifice, find your threshold, push it as far as you can, and if someone still goes over it, to the point where you cannot handle it, move on.
>>127853744
N best of all we do it for free™
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>>127842689
In the era of artificial wombs the harm caused by women far outweighs the benefits
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>>127842968
I agree completely.

I don't enjoy socializing with women. Why would I bore the shit out of myself for days and years on the very low chance that I might get my penis wet? I don't get why anyone fucking deals with this shit.
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>>127853552
Because getting your rocks off the second the urge arises, especially to videos of other women, dulls your ability to connect intimately with someone. Sex will inevitably feel like a live action porno instead of something special to bond with your girl.

Protip: if it doesn't feel special to you, you already fried your brain.
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>>127842689
hahaha
OSJECANKA
hahahaha
ubij se

this girl lover cheated on her twice with her male friend
shes a cuckk
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>>127843070
im sure you would enjoy when your partner gets off to other people while being with you
>kek topkek
great input
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>>127842689
Because we're hardwired to.

Sage
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>>127854407
womens vagina is addictive
plain and simple
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>>127854608
What? No, Im from Split.
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>>127854569
Well im not particularly a good example, my brain is fried to the point where nothing feels special to me besides music, music is the only thing that can form a reaction with me thats anything other than superficial, and sometimes its far above the superficial.

I do agree that the less you do it the more special it becomes but that would be like depraving yourself off food just so that when you eat you find it more special. And with music ive never had this feel. A song, a set, ive heard, well probably at least a 100 times i still find to be so incredible to listen to. But ill accept the fact that i am a minority
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>>127845543
>The longer you wait before you have a child the higher are the risk of it being mentally unstable.
>The more partners a woman has ( though this depends on the form of the partnership ) the higher are the chances that shell divorce you.
>The earlier the divorce happens to a child in his life the higher are the chances that hell be mentally unstable.
Absolutely not true.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/04/14/children-born-to-older-mothers-are-smarter-taller-and-healthier/
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>>127854407
Women you love are fun to socialise with.
It's nice to enjoy the simple things in life.
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>>127852786
My woman doesn't give a shit if I watch porn or not, and I only watch porn if I get the urge and she's not available.

Also porn is just for release, believe me when I say there's zero emotional investment, would I ever trade my woman for one of those slus? Obviously not, that doesn't even cross my mind.
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>>127854129
Could make the same argument from artificial insemination, and in facts it's a argument dyke feminists have made.
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>>127854868
you don't know who osjecanka is?!
my guess is you've never been to exyu and you came from leddit
wwhat are you doing here?
also watching porn and jerking off in a relationship is fucking normal, get over it, your bf is hypocrite if he'd dump u for it
it has nothing to do with you, unless he stops having sex with you cos he's bored or whatever
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>>127854739
You don't need to tell me. A friend of mine recently got divorce raped, even though literally everyone told him not to marry that woman. He knew it inside as well, that he shouldn't have married, he admits now.

>>127855248
Whenever I talk to a woman, I just realize they are the "lite" version of a man, in terms of interests and personality.

Let me explain: I've met many, many women who go "OMG I love Star Wars!!!", but I've yet to meet a woman with whom I can discuss some fucking Star Wars Extended Universe comic book.

Even the most stereotypical Jock dudes I can hold a conversation with, when it comes to nerdy stuff. The contrast is just unbelievable...
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>>127855514
I've heard about her but I don't know the story. I'm here because /pol/ related topics are on my mind 24/7. I was once on exyu and even they called me osjecanka, that's how i found out, but what is the story?
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>>127855755
>Let me explain: I've met many, many women who go "OMG I love Star Wars!!!", but I've yet to meet a woman with whom I can discuss some fucking Star Wars Extended Universe comic book.
Lol. Sounds like the issue is with you, man child.
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>>127843233
Is this David?
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>>127855092
Looking at a website thats quite literally called parenting . com
The best time to have a baby is between 25 and 29 in terms of childs health.
However for each year you wait the chance of miscarriage increases.
Fertility . org
AGE MATTERS written all over the screen.

Furthermore intelligence of a child and its correlation with older parents could be because the parents are more intelligent in their education.
The reason i was top of the class in math was because i would study math ( out of my own will ) with my mother since i was 5 and she was a teacher and knew how to teach.
I find it highly unlikely that in the whole school no child has been given birth to by an older woman yet they were all, objectively, under me school wise.
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>>127855914
Yes, having interests is childish. Way to demonstrate your adultness, you can't even understand that was just an example.

Do you not have ANY interests? "Star wars" can be exchanged for pretty much anything else, that is not the issue here. I know /pol/ is full of normalfags but this is just funny.
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>>127842689
Why do porno wh0res come from these countries that act like they're too precious to let in muslims?
The countries of photoed get blacked all the time in porn, prostitute themselves in europe and in rich arab countries for moneys, scam men on the internet and stick things in their privates on camsites for money
help me understand why slavic women are such prostitutes /pol/
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>>127856343
>in rich arab countries
Only as total exceptions as they would be kidnapped pretty soon if they'd do it normally.
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>>127855821
shes a kuk girl from osijek who forgave her bf cheating on her with a male friend that introduced them to each other
she used to get drunk every night, talk crap about her bf who was lurking there, post not lewd pics , and meme
used to be big on exyu, not sure if shes alive and posting there anymore
thought it was you
also
you should work on your self-confidence issues
this dude is spot on >>127855382
and you should take his advice, and stop worrying too much
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>>127855056
It's not just about doing it less often to make it feel more special. The closer you get with a girl, the more often you can have sex and still have it feel special. Girls can tell when that special connection is missing, and they will subconsciously want to find someone who they feel it with. Which is why after a while, a lot of women lose interest in having sex with their husband even when they admit they still like him as a person.

Shocking.
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>>127856225
It's silly of you to expect someone to share your autistic interests. Or to appreciate them to the same extent as you. Why does it matter if they can't hold a conversation about star wars? Is talking about star wars with the women you love and the mother/future mother of your children really that high on your list of priorities?
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>>127855821
jebote ak nepricas sa njim o /pol onda ga fakat ostavi, zajebi pornjavu, presto bi drkat za sekundu da upoznam curu sa kojom mogu pricat o OP fegetima i hitlerovim sjajnim idejama
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>>127857225
>presto bi drkat za sekundu da upoznam curu sa kojom mogu pricat ...
ubij se djevče
neš nikad jebat ak tak budes razmisljao
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>>127842689
Well, Its human instinct. Oppisite genders tend to attract. Thats how the human species keeps itself from going extinct. heck, reproduction is one of the main things that living things do in order to keep themselves from going extinct. I dont know if you heard of the shakers, but the shakers lived in a strictly religious society, so strict that you practically couldnt even have sex. because they didnt reproduce, the shaker population eventually disappeared.
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>>127856991
So even if one gets closer to the woman, as you say, has that special bond and first few years the sex is great and then they slowly fade away and the woman goes on to fuck other people.
How does that affect the decision on whether or not to masturbate?
>>127857107
What he is saying is that even a woman that states she likes topic x doesnt have enough interest in it as a man that doesnt even publicly express his interest in the topic x.
Your point of someone sharing his autistic interests is absolutely negated by the fact that he mentions that he tries to have a conversation about starwars only with women that declare they like star wars.
And what he is pointing out is that it is a constant theme that women dont appreciate anything on an extent same as men, thats not absolutely materialistic and superficial, and even in that some men are better than all of women.
Furthermore at least being able to talk about anything at all should be a priority when forming a relationship and if you agree with the points above, doing so with a woman is an incredibly hard thing to do, well with most of them anyway.

I hope i did justice to the person youre replying to but if i didnt, these are my arguments against your statement as i agree with the poster above.
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>>127857107
I already understood you have a simple mind from the start of the conversation, but you keep amazing me. I already said you can exchange that for anything, yet you're writing retarded shit like "autistic interests" or "conversation about star wars". I have many interests, and my point is about having similiar interests and fun conversation.

Since you obviously are incapable of thinking for yourself, let me replace that part because you think "liking Star Wars" is equivalent to "having a mental disorder"(autism) somehow. Let's say movies. Even cult classics, how many women can hold a decent conversation? Music?

What are we going to talk about for years and years during the time we're "together"? Dirt? The weather?
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>>127857436
a man can dream you faggot
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>>127842689
you need them to procreate
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>>127857225
a pricam ja sa njim o /pol/ , al zajendicki interesi nisu dovoljni da se prestane klikcat na slike drugih zena
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>>127857638
ISLAM AND REDDIT ALL IN ONE POST GO HOME !!!!!
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>>127857811
What part of my post has anything to do with islam or reddit? I'll wait.
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>>127844737
einstein also had a smaller brain and hre was a geniuos. size dcoesntr matter.
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>>127854868
>from Split
mirella?
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>>127857777
dodjite na ex-yu, cekamo ves hehe *mig*
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>>127842689
Highner sex drive, it makes sense from an evolutionary perspective.
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>>127857587
If you don't maintain it, sure that can happen. If you're too caught up in your daily life to use your wife as anything more than a cock sleeve, you can expect it to happen aswell.

>How does that affect the decision on whether or not to masturbate?
There is a chemical in your brain that is released when you cum that makes you feel close with the person you had sex with. I think they call it the cuddle hormone or something. If you consistently jerk off when there is nobody to bond with, or to tons of videos of different girls, you will probably never learn to understand this feeling and will just mistake it for sleepiness.
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>>127857777
not going to happen dear split lady, porn is to available and degenarate and so much ingrained in our little brains that for some its an addiction, for others just relief. but its there and so many fucking variations of it that no women can compete, if he cares for you and fucks you properly and all that shit you will have to forget about it. its not that easy to quit porn even if your in a relationship. Or just be a degenerate whore in bed
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>>127858689
No
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>>127858933
But wouldnt the chemical work no matter what the circumstance?
As previously mentioned, music is the only way i can connect myself to any emotion so ill use it here too.
I listen to music on my pc, but just because i enjoy the fuck out of the electronic genre doesnt mean i dont enjoy myself when listening to acoustics or classics, and it certainly doesnt mean that i wouldnt love to go to a live concert.
Are these things not the same?
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>>127859271
show me your tits, just to be on the safe side.
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>>127859340
dude that's not how you ask...

it's more like TITS OR GTFO
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>>127859271
jelena?
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>>127859588
that's a nice name

>tfw no jelena from split to be my gf ;(
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>>127859588
Ne. Al kako se ta preziva?
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>>127852786
You two faced balkan skank
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>>127859755
perojevich
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>>127859275
>electronic genre
>love to go to a live concert.
are you saying you like mass public fappenings?
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>>127859912
neznam tu, al kolko ih to ima koje dolaze na /pol/, wtf
>>127859889
Sometimes it's better to lie than hurt someone even more. It's better to hurt myself by repressing negative emotions and whining on 4chan
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>women are inherently monogamous

waddup cuckboi
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>>127860175

ae dolaz' 'vamo, dosadno nam je. osjecanka vise nece da se druzi sa nama :/

>>>/int/75493415
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>>127844413
>a woman has to work to keep a man loyal
this is purely cultural, not natural.
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>>127842689
> ITT: a woman tries to increase her sexual value by depriving men of porn
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>>127842689
>Why are men so obsessed with women?
Well uh, I dont know. Basic instincts, hormones? What the fuck dude?
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>>127859978
I suppose its too hard for you to read 5 sentences or i didnt phrase myself properly.
I enjoy all genres of music. One of my favorite concerts, that sadly i only saw online, were acoustic concerts and at that, acoustic concerts that cover, originally not acoustic songs. But what im saying is it doesnt mean that i dont like electronic music or non acoustic instrumental music or rap or country.
Which is why im asking how masturbating to x woman makes it harder for me to like y woman.
Also there are electronic artists that have mixes that sound better than their original songs, even if they mix their own songs only. So why not?
>>127860175
Yeah nah, relationship built on dishonesty is good until the lies are revealed, and you seem like a terrible liar.
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>>127860503
I was joking. not gonna read your 5 sentences of bait, although they look tasty.
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>>127860503
But it's not a terrible lie, how can he exactly find out that I didn't forgive him? It's not something for which you need material proofs.
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tst
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>>127860801
your proxy works
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>>127860273
and where might that osjecankas tits be? see OP how its hard not to jerk it off on the internets
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>>127842689
Jizz is a parasite that mind-controls us to get to an egg, stupid sperm, making us ruin our lives trying to please a woeman instead of GOOW like we should.
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>>127860905
>osjecanka
>sise
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>>127860746
What is the benefit of lying to him? To spare his feelings?

If you cant forgive him, which I honestly understand, the kind thing to do is to tell him that something needs to be done to fix the relationship. If you are unhappy enough now to post about it on 4chan, it will eventually become unbearable for you.
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>>127854637

Actually it says more than an idiot like you can read into.

Women cheat as much or more as men do. Hence the influx of sluts in todays day in age. That's a reality, and I don't think it's right to say women are 'usually' emotionally attached to one man... and even if they are, emotional attachment still doesn't guarantee monogamy.

And to the second, yeah, I'm gonna get my rocks off when I don't have a girlfriend. When I do, guess what? I'm fuckin her.

This entire thread is a complete non-issue. But as we all know, anything that involves a woman = 200+ replies.
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>>127860623
I dont bait. But yeah do whatever you wanna, if youre gonna be stupid dont be serious about it.
>>127860746
One lie, then another, then another. Having pent up negative feelings about someone is incredibly easily noticeable even if you try to pretend its not true, and this is even more easily noticeable if its a person youre close to who you are being disingenuous to.
And constantly lying to others does take a toll on your mental health and eventually itll become noticeable. Unless you are a good liar that is.
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>>127860843
Black dildo inside your asshole

Very culturally enriching
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>>127861671
>Unless you are a good liar that is.

If that is a woman, you can rest assured that she is a great liar.
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>>127861769
you missed the whole thread, dude
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>>127860746
Men are highly visual, require sexual release much more than women do (testicles don't drop producing sperm just because he hasn't had an orgasm lately) and make zero emotional investment when watching porn.

Porn is degenerate and it's better to avoid, but your man isn't totally would merit when he implies that you watching porn would be worse. Women's brains are wired for emotional connection, are not visual, and women do not require sexual release as urgently as men.

I'm not defending degeneracy. The solution to your problem is to start slipping your hand in his pants when he doesn't expect it. Wake him up to a blow job randomly. Have him walk in on you wearing nothing but a blouse in bed.

If you start thinking more about his needs he will quit the porn because you will become his release.

Ignore this post at your own peril.
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>>127861398
Yes, to spare his feelings. I will forgive him eventually, I love him too much to break up over this, but I should do something about my unhappiness , either therapy or some other kind of professional help. It is already unbearable now, to the point where I consider all girls who are more attractive than me ( by porn standards) whores.
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>>127861785
I'm drunk as hell

Yeah! The armenian genocide
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>>127862153
how much do you consider attractive, from 1 to 10? post some picture which doesn't reveal completely your face or something if you wanna hide it
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>Why are men so obsessed with women?

This isn't /r9k/ you fucking autist. Nobody is going to explain basic fucking biology and how brains work to you.
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>>127861996
We don't live together and I never told him 'no' even when I was sick and when it hurt me.
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>>127862337
*consider yourself
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>>127862225
>spending your drunk time on 4chan

Dude... Find something more fun to do while drunk at least...
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>>127843345

Being attractive as a woman means staying thin, having long hair, and putting a basic level of effort into hygeine and neatness. If you can't be bothered to perform this incredibly simple feat and expect to own your husband's gaze and thougts, you are lower than shit, a disgusting garbage heap of a person, and don't even deserve to live.
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>>127862337
I hate posting my pics, but I'd say 7. Although I hate rating people like that. I am 170 cm, blonde and have feminine shape but small chest and I think I should gain some weight.
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>>127862153
so this is all just your problems, as I see he watches porn and you have self-esteem issues which you blame on his porn watching
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>>127862607
> staying thin, having long hair, and putting a basic level of effort into hygeine and neatness
Yes, I am like this. It is not hard to be like that.
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>>127849662
this is the only answer that matters
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>>127862631
that sounds like a nice figure you got there
so why you are jealous of other girls if you're pretty?
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>>127862479
That's not enough. You have to initiate it. If it's always him he's going to assume you just don't want much sex. He'll assume he's doing you a favor by not involving you when you're not giving signals that you want it. Believe me this is the truth, all men feel this way. If you leave him the next one will feel the same.

Also, when he initiates you have to make him think you are glad he did. You loved it. You love fucking him. You love his body. If you don't do this he'll turn to porn because he doesn't want to hurt you physically or make you do something you don't enjoy.

If you were already initiating sex often and also convincing him you loved fucking him, you would not have this problem.

Also, you're a hypocrite since you're throwing stones at him for watching porn but you are fucking a guy out of marriage. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

I'm any case I gave you the only advice you need to fix your relationship.
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>>127862953
she has that split dialect I bet
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>>127862953
Because there is always someone better than me. All my body fat goes to lower parts and then my arms and chest are thiny, disgusting. And some of whores I've found on this account are bigger in that area. Also, I hate them for being narcissists because they are 'thicc' perfectly shaped women.
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>>127844117

Look, it's a retard that thinks truth is transient and subjective. All "beliefs" are based on feelings that are determined by how you "identify." What a fucking brainlet.
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>>127842689
>while women are usually emotionally attached to only one man

I wish
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>>127862153
I wouldn't break up with someone over something like this, but I would tell them that it hurt me. If they keep doing it, they don't respect you, which is something I would break up with someone for.
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>>127863302
there is always going to be someone better
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>>127863087
I am too shy to initiate anything and I think if I do, he would see me as a whore ( i know it's not rational). But he knows I love him in that way, I show it.
>Also, you're a hypocrite since you're throwing stones at him for watching porn but you are fucking a guy out of marriage
How is that being hypocrite? Paper doesn't mean shit to me. I decided to stay with him forever, even though things like these hurt me, so It is like we are married. And porn is degenerate for everyone.
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>>127863087
>Also, you're a hypocrite since you're throwing stones at him for watching porn but you are fucking a guy out of marriage. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Oh shit, she was? nvm she's a fucking slut. Funny when she calls those superior porn chicks whores when she is doing this shit.
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>>127863250
mmm yes, my favorite

>>127863302
there is always and will be someone better than me too, so what? you have self-esteem issues. but you probably know that nobody is perfect, that girls who look better than you certainly have some other problems/defects, and it's pretty much pointless to compare yourself to the others. you're certainly better than them, be it intellect or some issues they have but you don', so it all evens out in the end
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>>127863673
kek
if you dont want to do anything about it then just be miserable
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>>127863302
>>127863569

Yeah was just gonna say this. Read through your story, have to say, you seem to be misunderstanding a whore vs a good girlfriend (what we want). We want a sexual woman, with us, just not loads of different men. You being sexual and intimate with your boyfriend, doesn't make you a whore (unless you do it without being in love/knowing him deeply on some level, ya know 'but I waited till the second date!', that kind of girl)

Nothing wrong with being sexually aggressive with your man, so my advice, find out what he really likes in porn and deliver it to him on a platter. Might make him turn his eye to you rather than the porn.
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>>127862826

Then you will be in the top 20% of American women. Make it within our borders and some rich good looking guy will dedicate his life to you, no bullshit.
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>>127863706
What? You are really comparing pre-marital sex that is happening between two people and noone else knows about it with degenerate sluts who fuck 100000 men on camera for money? Wow
Btw, it was my bf's idea that we should have it before marriage. A contract on some paper doesn't change anything.
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>>127842952
Are you sane or just seljo nigger?
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>>127863673
Do women really call eachother whores or sluts this often? Femtards always love to yell at men for slut shaming, but I swear I only ever see women shaming other women.

and lel you're in a monogamous relationship how is that whorish behavior in any way?
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>>127863673
make a fucking porno with him, just all in degenerate stuff, then post it here and never have that kind of sex with him again
only porn he is going to watch is you
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>>127864401
it's her, faggot
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>>127864163
I know him deeply and yes I do it out of love. But I still have some limits in my head, I grew up thinking that women should be 'innocent' not very sexual, even for one man only.
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>>127863673
>I am too shy to initiate anything and I think if I do, he would see me as a whore ( i know it's not rational). But he knows I love him in that way, I show it.

If your man knew that I just gave you the advice that I did, he would want to take me out for drinks, buy me a lapdance, and become my best friend. I just gave you the most valuable advice you could receive free of charge with no vested interest in your relationship on the other side of the planet, and that's your response.

>I am too shy to initiate anything

Translation:
>His needs don't matter enough to me to overcome my shyness

You are failing him as his woman. Failing him miserably. Next time you two fuck, tell him after: "I want to start being more forward about sex and initiating more often. Would that weird you out?"

He will say not only no but hell no. Yes ma'am please do.

Then you can feel less shy about it. It's your secret with him. He's your partner for god's sake (even though you aren't, married you degenerate whore, but that's another story).

The truth is you aren't shy about sex, you just aren't prioritizing him, you just don't like sex that much, you probably have trouble getting wet. Solution: get some astro gel, slip some on your hand, and then slip your hand in his pants when shaving and not expecting it, or in the kitchen, or whatever.

I said it before, but it bears repeating: if you were initiating often, and making him believe you want it when he initiates, he wouldn't be turning to porn and masturbating. Men always prefer the real thing. He does it because he doesn't want to involve you since you either give signals that you don't like it or you don't make him feel like you do like it. Both are wrong.

Also, saying shit like "my head hurts but just make it quick" or "it's a bit painful but go ahead" is basically like taking a giant shit on your relationship. Next time he's going to think "fuck it, I'll just go fap, she doesn't enjoy it much anyway."
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>>127864557
She can still be seljo nigger or him.. how the fuck you know it's a she on the interwebz?
>>
Women grow one baby while men can have 100 babies in the same year.
Men like and protect women from their own tribe while women don't care what tribe a man is from.
This explains 90% of problems pol has with dating
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>>127864700
>Solution: get some astro gel, slip some on your hand, and then slip your hand in his pants when shaving and not expecting it, or in the kitchen, or whatever.
this made me hard

damn you women are the most creative when it comes to that

>>127864940
nothing is 100% sure here even if (s)he post some picture, but you can tell by reading posts (s)he made throughout this whole thread
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>>127864648

Yeah, I take a different approach. I believe we all have the dirtiest, rotten filthy desires deep in all of us. Thing is, I do believe it would be better to work with those things, rather than try to shut them away. Like if you've got a kinky man (just an example), he's not going to stop liking the weird stuff most likely. If you embrace it with him, it could be a highly intimate experience for both of you, and bring you close. For instance with me, I've got a ground rule: No multiple partners, in any way. Everything else is negotiable depending on what it is.

Honestly sounds to me like you need to embrace sexuality, in the context of your relationship (not being slutty for the sake of being slutty, but being a little naughty for your boyfriend only)
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>>127865088
>slip hand in pants while he is shaving
>shaves using straight razor
>slices neck and dies
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>>127864271
Still degenerate. A ring/paper solidifies the bond between a man and women. It's degenerate to fuck before marriage since if you break up with him, you'll just hook up with some other dude and fuck him again.

Waiting for marriage is not only respectable, but gives a women some class. Who am I kidding, women haven't had any since of dignity for ages.
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>>127864474
Yes, they hate and shame each other. I always thought women should be innocent and less sexual due to society's teachings.
>>127864700
The thing is, I like sex, but due to centuries of sexual repression, I am to shy to admit it. He never knew it hurt me, and I never showed any signs that I don't enjoy. I thought it was enough that I always let him do it when he wants, I don't mind it ever ( except when pictures of those whores come to my mind)
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>>127865347
that's what i call a plot
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>>127842689
Because this is a world of duality and desires...black is obsessed with white and vica versa...until we all start looking inside instead of outside it will remain so , a duality and feeling of lack

the kingdom of heaven is within
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>>127865504
Isusa ti, muški su vizualna bića žene su više mentalne šta se tiče seksa..
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Generalizations are always correct. I see this time and time again, you make a generalization and it is 100% true in any case.
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>>127865422
I would never break up with him and if he does it ( which is only going to happen if I don't stop being this whiny) I would never touch any man again and I would commit suicide, that's why I only whine on 4chan. And what is stopping a married woman, who waited till marriage to have sex to fuck some other guy? It happens a lot, does that woman still have class you're talking about? Would you respect more unmarried couple who has sex but would never cheat on each other or break up or married couple who waited but she turns out to be massive whore? Because I know lot of christian girls who did this..
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>>127865504
here's what - how about you dedicate yourself fully on something? all complications you make in your head will soon vanish as you try hard with work and such obsession you have will be eventually fully gone, and you'll finally gain your lost confidence.
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>>127865504
how the fuck are you on 4chan and be this shy about sex, and not know that that is a problem and fucking him more/better is a solution
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>>127865504
I can tell from your responses you are incapable of seeing this issue from his perspective and will continue to rationalize your shortcomings until your relationship crumbles.

I recommend you break up with him now because you aren't going to take the steps I've outlined to fix your relationship. As a result his porn habit will not only continue but likely grow. As that happens, remember my posts.

>due to centuries of sexual repression, I am to shy to admit it
Translation:
>I don't care enough about my partner's needs to overcome a bit of shyness, but have no problem with him sticking his dick in my twat and fucking my brains out

Try to analyze how ridiculous that is. Like I said, you aren't prioritizing him. You are putting your "shyness" over his basest needs, and then getting upset with him for fapping to porn. I actually pity your boyfriend.

>I never showed any signs that I don't enjoy
As I said: not enough. If you enjoyed it you would be initiating. You would be salivating for him, giving him little winks, slapping his ass, begging for more, in other words: YOU'D ACT SEXUAL AROUND THE PERSON YOU ENJOY SEX WITH.

Since by your own admission (and horrible excuses) you aren't doing this, it's clear that your relationship is faltering due to your issues, not his. Of course he's going to turn to porn and fapping rather than initiate with you for the 10000x time. Hello? What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>127865993
O.o
I recommend psychotherapy, or simply start talking about your problems with him.
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>>127865504
>centuries of sexual repression
>probably only twenty something years old

kek. No I think you're just shy and haven't considered stepping out of your comfort zone.
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>>127842689
Women don't look at pictures of naked men, no, but check their Facebook messages and Tinder history and you'll see a different story.
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>>127866370
if he is a good bf then he will help you get over your stupid shit, talk to the guy, make him sad so what
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>>127866325
I should maybe be more open. First 3 years it wasn't like this, I wasn't shy, but I know he still watched. You might wonder what happened? He had his episodes when he would talk about sex being evil , a sin ( he's muslim by his family but not in the head, behavior or anything- they are from bosnia, he's still croat tho and white ofc so i dont care about religion). And he somehow repressed me with those stories, but then after some time, he would deny all of it and said : Ok, let's have sex. Like wtf? And things started getting better lately but than this episode with porn happened again and here I am, repressing myself again..
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>>127867163
>he's muslim
For fuck's sake woman - run the fuck away.
That shit'll fuck with his head like battery acid on his frontal lobes - why on earth would you get involved with a fucking muslim of all things?
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>>127842689
>women are usually emotionally attached to only one man
>Actually believing this
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>>127867163
Of course there's more to the story. There's also his side which we'll never hear and which you seem incapable of contemplating.

>he's muslim
Well you fucked up, but regardless, he's still a man. Everything I said applies. Also explains why you're not married and probably never will be (hint: you're a kafir).

>He had his episodes when he would talk about sex being evil , a sin
So he was a dumb kid and he grew up. What else is new? Get over yourself.

What's more bizarre is that you apparently entered into and remained in a relationship with someone who called sex evil and sinful.

If you agreed with it then, what changed? And if you didn't, why the fuck did you get into a relationship with him?

Do you honestly not see how you made this bed of nails yourself?

>here I am, repressing myself again
The porn shit is entirely you not making him feel like you want to fuck. As I explained. All men are this way, religion etc. makes no difference.

I also pointed out that you are incapable of seeing this from his perspective because almost all women are like you. Those who can are unicorns, and if you were a unicorn you wouldn't be here posting about it and he wouldn't be fapping to porn.

Ultimately you're a lost cause, I'm mostly posting this for lurkers who might benefit.
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>>127842689
thats where your wrong kiddo
>leaving porn in the browser history
>having a browser history
>not knowing the porn you want to see by heart
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>>127843822
>The majority of women want to stay at home and be mothers
not anymore, especially young women. "muh career" and "muh dreams" is what they're all about, it's a huge reason why birth rates have declined so much as well.
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>>127867163
aaaaa and the plot thickens, yea he is bullshiting you just as he is bullshiting himself you are both fucked and should get help and talk to each other for christ sake
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>>127868246
y so aggressive m8? This personal to you for some reason?
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>>127867919
Because he's muslim only on paper, he doesn't practice it and doesn't believe in it. He's redpilled, and hates non-white people so yea.
>>127868246
I always agree with everything he says, I am that type of woman sadly.When he though sex was evil, I thought that too, I always tried to adjust my opinions to his. Ofc, he doesn't think it now, we even had it the day after he said it so...sometimes he's weird but what can I say?
I should change I guess.
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>>127842689
i'm only interested in women for aesthetic reasons. other than that they are subhumans.
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>>127868737
If you're reading aggression into my posts that's on you.
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>>127868883
>I always agree with everything he says
>When he though sex was evil, I thought that too
>Ofc, he doesn't think it now

Use logic here. If you agree with everything he says, and he doesn't think it's evil now, then the whole thing is irrelevant to your current problem.

Which means you only brought it up as a crutch because you're starting to see things from his perspective, which is making you feel guilty. That's actually a very good sign that you might take the steps necessary.

I've laid out exactly what you need to do, but I'll do it again one more time.

>don't change anything right now
>next time you guys happen to have sex, after, ask him if it's ok if you initiate sex sometimes and act more sexual towards him
>he will DEFINITELY say yes
>start initiating with him at random times over the course of the next week, prioritize this over your shyness
>have him accidentally walk in on your wearing your sexiest outfit randomly in a sexual position
>put your hands on him more often
>moan more during sex
>etc.

If you ignore this advice, your relationship is doomed. If you follow this advice and he gets upset, break up with him immediately.

You're welcome.
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>>127869703
There is also the problem of removing pictures of other women from my head which kill my mood, but I will try not to think about it. Thanks for advice, anon
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>>127868883
Are women like you common in your country?
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>>127842689
> while women are usually emotionally attached to only one man

You're either retarded or 15.
Nvm, they're the same.
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>>127865993
That's why you gotta spend time and get to know someone instead of simply hooking up and getting hitched after a month like other idiorts.

> and I would commit suicide

I recommend getting help and a ring. Fuck off from here and fix your non-issue.
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>>127870385
If the images in your head were to blame, then you'd have been highly sexual and initiating with him before you discovered he was looking at porn.

But you weren't.

He didn't fuck those women, he just used a visual to get his rocks off. I'm not defending it but you have to understand that for a man it's more minor than you as a woman imagine it to be. Men can quite literally get hard to stick figures if they're shaped right.

This is why he would be upset if you watched porn. For a woman it's an emotional thing. He's actually correct, it is a bigger deal for a woman to masturbate to porn. Men and women are in fact different.

I hope you were a virgin when you first fucked him. If not (and he knows it) he has definitely pictured you fucking a guy he's probably never met. Do you not think this affects him?

You're welcome for the advice. If you can't get your mood up use lubricant in the meantime.

Once your relationship is fixed you won't need it anymore. Trust me.
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After 3 months with any girl, every time you have sex it's like "oh look im having meatloaf again", no matter how hot or kinky she is.

Once you accept that this will always happen, it helps you to stop putting attractive girls on a pedestal.
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>>127870933
Dated a croatian girl for a while - honestly thought for a minute this was her posting.
Croatian women come in two flavors - abject, unrepentant sluts, and girls like this. It's a coin toss - but far better than what we have in NA
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>>127871667

Yeah, I'd take girls like this desu. A little weird, but trying to have some dignity and trying to make a better relationship/self-improvment.
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>>127871555
Anon I've been married for years, my wife is smoking hot, and every time we have sex I'm literally in awe of her figure.

Your comment might fit some men, but definitely not all.
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>>127871297
Wtf, he was my best friend for a year and we got to know each other , i'm not part of 'hook-up' culture..
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>>127871837
>my wife is smoking hot
post pic of your wife
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>>127871510
Of I was a virgin, eww to anything else. He also never had a gf, only one maniac single mother obsessing over him, but he's not a cuck so..
He told me he was a virgin and I believe him because usually guys would say they were not to look cool.
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>>127871667
>>127871833

Girls like this are my dream lol. I am a very selfless person naturally and I dont do well paired girls with selfish qualities. Most girls I've dated have been all about muh dreams, muh career, muh whatever.
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>>127872262
Risk of doxxing is way too high, even if I blocked out her face.

There's also the fact that I could never prove she was actually my wife, so it's pointless/not worth the effort.

Plus anons would fap to the pic. Literally no benefit.

If you don't believe me that's fine.
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>>127842689
Women were a fucking mistake and might destroy us all yet.
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>>127872654
>Risk of doxxing is way too high
how? is she some famous person?
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>>127842689
>while women are usually emotionally attached to only one man.
living the lie, aren't you?
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>>127872510
Look for a strong father figure. No guarantees it'll work out - some girls rebel hard against a strong, authoritarian father by fucking everything that moves.
But the croat chick I dated had a strong father she respected above almost everything else - he spent time in a yugoslav jail as a political prisoner, and he was as red pilled as you can get.
She knew her place, and she was happy as fuck to be there. And that place was by her man's side.
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>>127872427
So you're casual fucking an unmarried guy from a muslim background who was a virgin when you met?

Anon...you'd better take my advice quick if you actually want to keep this guy around. You have a lot stacked against you.

The more he looks at porn the more curious he's going to be if there's a 'magic pussy' out there that's somehow superior to yours. Guys who have only had one girl naturally wonder if different pussies feel different/superior.

Tack on the fact that you're kafir, and that you're shy about sex and not initiating...and it's no wonder you're having problems.

You should do some research on foods and/or supplements that can help you get aroused. It will pay dividends if it works for you. Also, once you start having a more healthy sexual relationship you're arousal will come more easily and you'll just have a better sex life. After that the porn shit will fall away. Getting angry at him over it won't fix anything though.

Best of luck.
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>>127872811
Ain't worth the risk, no matter how small. If the return on your investment is 0%, don't bother doing it. In the case of posting nudes of your wife, the return on investment is 0% with a side helping of "oh hey - I found out who you are..."
No fucking thanks.
>>
OP:

Men will always feel that attraction to other women and their eyes will wander. They will want to fuck about 10 different girls per day.

When marrying/committing that DOES NOT, I repeat, DOES NOT go away - but a man can still choose to stay with waifu in spite of that.

A man should not watch porn because it is just bad in general, but at the gym etc eyes will wander on all the asses in tights thought personally I would prefer an all-man gym because it shouldn't be a place to go to look at womminz.

Do not worry OP - but if he watches porn that's fucking pathetic and he should swallow a revolver if he doesn't make an effort to stop.
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>>127842689
As a married anon, the right women makes life worth living.
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>>127873279
I'm not kafir, we're in relationship lol, I can't be the enemy. I said, he stands with Europe and is against all degeneracy and immigration from third world shitholes. He won't leave, I'm 100% sure he won't cheat, so maybe I should really forgive him porn. He doesn't like women that much, doesn't value vagina , but a woman as a person.
It's not casual fucking , and we're married in our heads lol
>After that the porn shit will fall away.
I hope so, thanks.
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>>127873361
Exactly.

My point was only that it is possible to be in awe of your wife's figure even after you've had your way with over and over for years. I can't speak for all men, maybe some guys' brains work differently, but that's been my experience.

Doesn't hurt our relationship that I tell her this, and since it's me being honest (often during or after sex) it goes a pretty long way in keeping us close. Certainly doesn't hurt.

I can't imagine having a healthy relationship with a women that I view as analogous to meatloaf wrt sex...
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>>127874049
>we're married in our heads lol
You're married in your head. You so remind me of the chick I used to date.
She, too, had no fucking clue what men are really like.
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>>127874256
But he is different, that's why I'm sad about this all. If he was some fuckboy and watched porn, I wouldn't be mad, just leave him because they are all the same, but I wouldn't be with someone like this anyway. He told me he could never have sex with someone he's not emotionally bonded with, so maybe I shouldn't be so upset about those sluts, but still, I want him to stop.
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>>127874564
You aren't going to get him to stop - I've dated girls like this in the past as well.
Note the term "dated".
They got shown the door when their nagging got a bit too fucking tiresome. I told them I was committed to them, but from time to time, I'm going to get myself off how I please.
They couldn't handle that, and now they're gone.
My wife, however, will happily blow me while I watch porn. Of if I don't watch porn. Or if it's tuesday.
I married her for a reason - because she wasn't fucking neurotic.
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>>127842689
>while women are usually emotionally attached to only one man

Horse shit. If that were the case, we wouldn't have such a high divorce rate with women initiating it because they're either a gold-digging whore who only wanted to bleed the man for money or because they get bored of their man and want out.
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>>127874049
>>127872017
>and we're married in our heads lol

Damn. You really don't get it, do you? There is not much to learn from someone in 12 months, it takes years to fully know someone inside out, and even than you still learn more things about your partner.

Relationships need to be built without the sex involved. When you add that into it, it causes the sex to not be special since you probably will do it every week or so.
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>>127862826
pics please
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