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Why is this county so fucked up? I don't even want to be

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Why is this county so fucked up? I don't even want to be enormously rich, just enough to live a decent life. Apparently it's too much to ask for in this stupid country.
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Come home Croatian man
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>>127839612
Your countrymen have also got to pay reparations for Jasenovac.
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>>127839612
What's wrong with it?
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E prijatelju, nama ce biti dobro tek kad prestanemo da zavisimo od velikih sila, do tada, srecno... nama je jos gore
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Hrvatska nacija je fejk

t. Hrvat u Rumuniji
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>>127841487
t. titofag
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>>127840931
Financial situation, taxes, corruption, thieves in government, unemployment. People are pussies and don't want to do anything about it.
>>127841487
nece to nikad bit kolko vidim
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>>127841793
Uuu sad je svaki Srbin koji ne mrzi Hrvata titofag... Odrasti
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>>127839612
Because this country is pseudo-capitalist. It hasn't fully transitioned from socialism. Public sector is corrupt beyond redemption. Lazy pieces of shit who only complicate everything for honest workers trying to start and maintain their businesses. Not to mention the state imposing sky-high taxes on everything.
>>127840867
gej
also why do you live in romania?
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>>127841887
Been born here, I am from Banat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krashovani
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>>127839612
Sort yourself out
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>>127841887
Is it even worth starting own business here?
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>be of Croatian heritage
>parents retired there after living here in US for years
>always tell me I should retire here
>/pol/ Croats whine every day that it's a shithole

I'll just stay in the US.
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>>127841966
So a catholic Serb/Vlach hybrid.
Just like every subhuman ''Croat'' south of Sava.
>>127842145
I don't think so.
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>>127842165
Its great if you dont have to worry about money/job.
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>>127843524
I don't. I dunno many Croats here says it's disgusting when Diaspora come and retire there when they never lived their before so I don't want to be killed by the locals.
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>>127842522
>catholic

I come from a catholic household but I am an atheist. Honestly if I would choose a religion I'd be orthodox because it seems more justified than the cucktholic bullshit.
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>>127843592
You are not gonna get killed by locals,everyone is really chill here.The only real criminals here are all working in goverment and politics.
Most people can speak at least basic english and if you are not a disrespectful asshole,you will do fine here.
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>>127844194
I speak passable Croatian desu which would get better if I lived there. I have family who visits me all the time and I communicate with them just fine.
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>>127844691
where does your family live in Croatia?
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>>127844881
They have homes in Zadar and Umag.
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I love Croatia. Been going there every year for 15 years now. One of my fav countries in Europe.
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>>127846274
Because you don't live in it. I just wish there were more jobs.
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>>127839612
Ustaše genes. With them, you can't have a decent life.
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lel I'm planning on buy a condo in Croatia by paying for it in full in cash with my live savings and repatriating soon

so many new fresh condos being sold for almost nothing by American standards of price

no 30 year mortgage for me to buy an American shitbox built in 1950 no thanks kek
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>>127839612
The whole system is corrupted and there is not enough good working citizens to make a change.
In case of a protest people rapidly run off due to the fear of losing ones job.
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>>127846611
We're fucked.
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>>127846611
>>127846980
I knew Croatia was fucked when my cousin said she went to college to learn how to work at a grocery store. Like you guys have college degrees to teach retail. Something teenagers do here.
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>>127839612
Go in Germany. Free gibs.
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>>127839612
They forgot the men of Cavogalve
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>>127847242
I did not know that. It's weird.
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>fight for independence from incompetent political union
>immediately join another incompetent political union

why are yurps so stupid
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>>127847242
You misunderstood her ya dingus. The job situation is so bad people with degrees end up at a grocery store. They don't literally go to university to learn how to bar groceries. The grocery stores and retail spaces are full of teenage qts working the till over the summer whenever I go anyway.
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>>127841813
>unemployment
the laziest place i've ever been to is croatia
there's tons of work to do, you're all just stuck in #communistmindset and expect to do jack shit and get paid decently for it
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>>127847631
Not only that a bunch of countries killed each other to be free and now they all are once again in a union under the same umbrella.
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>>127842145
if you have business sense then you can make it work.
i've seen horrible business there.
everyone thinks you can only make things work out by stealing from others. this is how sub-saharan africans think. yugo politics fucked up everyone's mind.
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>>127839612

Come to germany, but bring your special kebab-removal qualities with you.
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>>127839612
>>127841813
>Financial situation, taxes, corruption, thieves in government, unemployment. People are pussies and don't want to do anything about it.
I know that feel, bro.
We have all of that shit here, plus communism, SJWs and the Venezuela-tier violence with niggers raiding the streets all day.
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>>127839612
t. Serb traveling trough Croatia

Life in Croatia is enjoyable for at least 80% of population.
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>>127847736
Well Croats are obviously rejecting the wages offered by the free market for their work and are opting to emigrate to Germany and Ireland instead :^)
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> Leave Yugo to join USSEURO

Wtf, I'm proud of my heritage but this shit is quite sad. Stories my dad used to tell of people getting married at 14, building a house & smoking some meat wtf happened, why? Why you do dis?
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>>127847855
Actually it's pretty hard to make thing work without stealing here, but I don't wanna be a thief and fear for my life. But here you're considered a thief if you don't let government rob you first.
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>>127847933
or in my case, where my parents came to canada
a cuban lady i know that teaches law in the US told me that "all the lazy cubans stayed behind". seems to be a common theme with immigrants from the 1950's through 1970's.
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>>127847736
this, you can live comfortably here if you are willing to work, majority of complaining fags just spend they days in bars near the sea/ downtown.
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>>127848131
Shut up diaspora nigger you wouldn't take factory work for 25 HRK an hour if you lived in Croatia either.
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>>127847912
Yes and this 80% are brainless rvat idiots
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>>127848338
I would.
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>>127848095
>>127848346
confirmed as lying commie/Serb

why don't you just fuck off back to r/croatia or /int/?
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>>127848523
My condolences...

But seriously why not go to Germany or Ireland?
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>>127847736
It's actually people employed in public institutions that are lazy. If you take a stroll through town on a weekday afternoon, you'll see all the people just chilling and sipping coffee. Their paycheck is secure, so why work right?
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>>127839612

We're not good at having our own country. We have no idea what to do because we never actually had our own country.

We were always ruled over by somebody and we got used to it.

And that's why there's so much corruption. When the government is not yours, you steal shit because it's not your money, it's the Hungarians or the Austrians or the Serbians in Yugoslavia so we didn't give a shit.

Now the government is ours and the money is ours but the mindset is the same. So we're basically stealing our own money and ruining the country.

Also, if you don't live in Zagreb, Rijeka or Istria you might as well be living in the 19th century.
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>>127848605
Go back to bosna you fucking gipsy shit
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>>127848630
If things continue like this then I will.
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>>127846274
Too many fucking Krauts holiday in Croatia. I went to Brac couple of years and it was great. Everything is shit cheap.
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>>127848853
>Rijeka
Fuck that degenerate city but man is it beautiful to drive in just as the sun is rising
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>>127848630
Balkans are generally treated like shit in the rest of Europe. I would much rather have a decent job here, but get robed, than be treated like a worm.
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>>127849590

I'm from Rijeka, fuck this city. We re-elected so to say a 20 year commie dictator back into his throne after years of corruption, theft and bribery.
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>>127849669
Just go to Munich there's a whole colony of Croats out there. Plus native balkanoids seem to excel at treating each other like shit anyway so it's not like it's like a new experience...
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>>127849928

We're about to reelect Bandić after he actually went to fucking jail, so....
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>>127849928
Slazem se da je obersnel debeli kreten, ali ni drugi kandidati nisu bolji...
>>127849951
You might be right friend.
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>>127849928
Why is the city the most degenerate of all cities in Croatia?
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why tf are you guys so good at football?
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>>127850163

You at least get some stuff done, this moron will throw away money into a half sunken commie boat ( I worked on it, it is beyond even scrap metal).
And buying more minority votes either up front with cash or by making them more comfortable...

I'd go to Zagreb or Pula in a heart beat, but am tied to shipbuilding atm. and Uljanik is fucked beyond unfucking.
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>>127850526
Vodice

kek
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>>127848338
we dont have factorys
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oh shut up, you don't know how much worse it could be, like here for example... i would gladly move to croatia and suffer there, than here.
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>>127850526

We wuz as its now known in the tourism branch "Port of Diversity" ...
Muh local hags, muh minaret, muh Serb minority muh Gypso minority muh Croat go away to suburbs we wuz gib state apartmets to needy wuzkangsmoneygrabbers.

We wuz commie heroz and shiet.
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>>127850526

it's progressive, liberal and left wing so i guess it would be hell on earth for /pol/
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>>127839612

Your a Slavic country, stability isn't possible, should've just let germany assmilate you and restore what little germanic roots you have at all in your people.
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>>127850538
There's nothing else to do.
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>>127850961
>Germanic roots
>Croatia
Stop believing propaganda made by the NSDAP in 1941 to turn Croats into better german boot lickers burger boy
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>>127847242
What she meant is she doesn't have a job in career of her choice so she found a job in a supermarket. Did she finish some useless philosophy course?
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Hello r/croatia
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>>127851169

Your against Nazis? Must be a kike, everything Hitler said in his book was true. Tell me kikeman, whats it like to be kicked out of over 100 countries, its all they're fault right?
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>>127851257
kek i bet those faggots wouldn't survive if they moved here
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>>127847631
>leave rusty and rickety old boat full of holes everywhere
>immediately join luxury cruise, where all the rich people are and gibsmedats are handed out

makes no sense honestly...
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>>127851169

In fact if you look at Slavonija and Zagorje the amount of germanic surnames and names clearly hints to Austrian, German and Hungarian influence, and those people physically look like some eastern Germans i know.
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>>127851493

Problem is we got late to the party, gibs were had, luxury was exhausted and we are all cannon and tax fodder now for the "new Germans" and "new Europeans".
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>>127851433
>not believing in a meme theory about Croats being germans Hitler pushed out of convenience means I'm a kike
Move along Cletus
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>>127851197
Studying philosophy or economy in Croatia? You might as well start digging trash and selling plastic bottles right away.
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>>127839612
it could be worse, familijo

you could be serbian
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>>127851692
yep, sneaky seajews(greeks) got in on time and are lightyears ahead of ex-commie shitholes
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>>127851721
Šta ima kod vas?
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>>127851553
There are plenty of Croats who look Italian and have Italian surnames too does this mean we are actually Italian too?

Majority of Croats are indigenous to the balkans if we go by genetics
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>>127851553

So then why not just drop the whole slavic gay shit and just join your germanic brothers, bring on a conservative revolution among them. Why be related to Russians, they don't even have white structures most of the time.
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>>127851845

Mate, when you in a 4 star hotel (in Athens) have a sign that asks not to throw the toilet paper after wiping in the toilet as it clogs the city drains... You are light years behind not ahead, be your name Greece or Anatolia.
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>>127839612
average iq below 90 + socialism

same formula for any 3rd world shithole
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>>127851978

Cause slavs gonna slav, 5% of slav blood in a 95% german is more toxic than 15% asian or arab.
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>>127851968
If you from Dalmatia, you're probably at least part Italian. We have some italians in our blood here in Montenegro if you're from the seaside.
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>>127852143

Nah, Italians did not breed with lower common ancestors. We did that and got the Vlaj infestation going strong.
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>>127851697

Yup, Kikeman proved me right doesn't understand that europe is a melting pot of different haploid groups lol, fuck off back to russia then you slavic nigger, you don't even speak on behalf of croatia.
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>>127839612
because of hercegovci

vote against bandic this sunday
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>>127851978
Because Slavs aren't trying to destroy Europe like the Krauts. At the very least, once the race war or crusades or whatever comes, you'll know that the Slavs will fight against it. No one hates Islam more than the Slavs.
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>>127839612

Joined the EU too soon, while corruption was rampant and people in power that should be in prison.

The corruption is one thing, but free movement to richer countries is going to permanently make Croatia a vassal state that siphons their human capital into Western nations.

The problem is like you said the lack of jobs combined with the opportunity to go elsewhere.

t. Croat working as an engineer here making 10 times more than I did doing the same exact job
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>>127851978
>they don't even have white structures most of the time
Well, I'm pretty sure that you have never been to Russia.
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>>127852143
That certainly true but the idea that Croats are long lost Germanic Ostrogoths Hitler pushed for propaganda purposes has no basis in genetics or history, the odd German surname being present notwithstanding.
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>>127851914
nema mora pa nema ni profita, nema industrije, nema poljoprivrede... ali zato ima siromastva i korupcije, naravno.
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>>127851914
isto sto i kod vas, samo malcice gore

plus je narod glup ko kurac, a misle da su popili svu pamet ovog sveta
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>>127852282

But slavs did destroy europe, the balkans was never filled with any slavic people it was all greeks, what have slavs invented on their own without the help of germanic people. (Without attending a germanic university)
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>>127852473
Da, u pravu si, trenutno nas samo turizam drži.
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>>127852280
>This
Almost every bosnian I met was a retarded ustasa rvat...
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>>127852376

Are you that thick ?

Odd German surname ? What are Štajerski Hrvati what is 50% of Karlovac population ?

You are spewing Titoisms mate, last (You) you'll get from me.
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>>127852511
>malcice gore
malo vise druze, u boljem su stanju oduvek bili pa i sad. zato sto imaju turizam a mi ovde glodjemo kurac
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We use to whine a lot about corruption and shit but reading you balcan/slav guys almost makes this look like a paradise.
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>>127852642
pa turizam je oko 15posto bdp-a , da i propadne do kraja bi imali 30 posto viši bdp od srbije. po stanovniku mislim
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>>127852601
Please kraut nigger offspring, go read a book
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>>127852776
nas je vise, i nismo u EU. opet i da jesmo, vi cete da predjnacite uvek
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>>127852730
Look up haplogroups and maternal lines, the majority of Croats are indigenous to the balkans stop believing ustasha fairytales Hitler concocted out of thin air because he thought we were fit for complete "Germanization" (oh what an honor)
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>>127839612
Because people still carry the commie mindset, together with lazy and mostly inefficient state agencies.

It's a typical case of transformation from gommunism to corrupt liberal capitalism. Entering the EU with our standards is a complete waste of time and further economic destruction. We shoudl've been rolling in mud and fucking pigs for few more decades and let things recover from ground up.

We need to prune the bad genes. Most of the willing and capable are emigrating for a long time. If anything is to be done here, it is banning condoms for the rich and 1 child policy for the poor.
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>>127852790

This is a typical slav response, hates any form of facts would rather be apart of communism, and bathe in the kike government that would own them.
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>>127852376
Oh i completely agree with you. That's legit just bullshit propaganda. They're Slavs like the rest of us. It's a meme like "Iberian" Albos.
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>>127841874
Ko je rekao da mrzim Hrvate... Ja mrzim samo komunjare, Jevreje i Muslimane...
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>>127852864
samo sto smo trebali biti uz bok slovackoj i ceskoj po bdpu a ne rumunjskoj i bugarskoj (mada se vjerojatno u srbiji bolje zivi nego tamo iako je manji bdp.)
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>>127849928
>>127850526
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>>127853186
Ja sam mislio da ste vi pod utjecajem Rusa (liberalnog kapitalizma)
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>>127842165
Stay in US, we're full. Oh yeah, and it's totally horrible here, you would absolutely hate it
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>>127853006
>More rich children will help everyone

I'm not so sure that your whole post is accurate. It seems like you're just a retard.
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>>127852757
bar imamo jeftin spid da zaboravimo koliko nam je sranje
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>>127847492
I like you Pajeet
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>>127852601
except austria, every other germanic country was and is still retarded
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>>127853801
Kurac. Mi nemamo ni to...
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>>127846274
Croatia is GOAT place to go on your vacation, its cheap, its nice, people arent cunts and no matter how drunk you are you can still communicate without knowing the language.
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come for coffee my friend
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>>127853706
>we need more poor children
We already had too much r-selection.
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>>127853006
that pavelic pepe is hilarious
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>>127853942
They are good to you as long as you pay the bill and bring over more customers.
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>>127853929
imate more i neznatno bolji standard. zato kazem malo bolje
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>>127854280
>>127853929
get a room
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>>127854146
I am drinking it right now.
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>>127853186
KEK
I ja <3
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>>127854280
srb+cro = jeftin spid i more kek
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Btw,

I think it's all about hard work, becoming the best version of yourself and a pinch of luck.

I have parents that both have college degrees so they worked their asses off and provided me with a small loan in form of a car and an apartment. O course they helped financially when I was going trough college.

>working with a comfy salary
>next goal is starting my own business in the next 5-10 years.

You make the bed you lay in. Is that how you say it?
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>>127854976
To je to, ne treba ti plaća od 10k eura da zivis normalno
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>>127854976
>>You make the bed you lay in.
You mean your parents did.
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>>127854976
>a small loan in form of a car and an apartment
I can only drream of that. My father only works, he has his own business, repairs TVs, cooperates with HEP ( although they are thieves and never pay on time) and we have enough money to live a good life but not that much for me to get a loan for anything.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_FUsu3U8o8
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>>127854790
bilo bi i vise novaca i za jedne i za druge kad bismo umeli da ne uteravamo kurac jedni drugima
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>>127853186
>>127854432

>yfw kad si musliman
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>>127855408
>You mean your parents did.

So what?
I finished highschool with straight A's, finished law school that lasts 5 years, in 5 YEARS, never did drugs, never had problems with cops, I help my parents with every single thing and do my best to make their lives easier as possible.

I literally see zero problems in our healthy relationship.
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>>127855895
*as easy as possible
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>>127855895
>never did drugs
you don't know what you're missing tho
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>>127856448
Addiction, large expenses, being a junkie and an early death for the sake of momentous highs?
Oh yeah, missing out on so much : /
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>>127856739
>Addiction, large expenses, being a junkie
if someone uses some drugs it doesn't mean he will become a junkie. stop listening to your parents and their horror stories
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>>127855895
Nothing, just don't take credit for circumstances that you were literally born into.
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>>127854280
Super je tu samo su ljudi jako jako razmazeni, nestrpljivi i lijeni te misle da im treba ne znam sto za dobar zivot. Stalno oko sebe cujem ljude kako kukaju nema se za ovo nema se za ono, a ti isti svaki dan popuse kutiju cigara, svaki vikend litre alkohola popiju, svaki dan 2-3 kavice vani popiju, pa jednu kavicu iz automata tokom svake pauze izmedju predavanja na fakultetu, pa kino svaki tjedan, skup sat, svake godine novi mobitel, skupa odjeca i obuca, frizurica - bitno je impresionirati druge, pa klubovi...koktelici... Zivjeli bi kao Paris Hilton, a malo tko ulaze truda i vremena u edukaciju i poboljsanje samoga sebe. Onima koji su shvatili da ovo nije Amerika te je ovdje standard nesto skromniji te u skladu sa time zive, rade i stede, Hrvatska je sasvim ugodna zemlja. Nemam veliku placu, ali sto se mora, prirode, homogenosti i mira tice smo vrh i to mi je dosta.
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>>127857672

Still, those circumstances were made by the sacrifices of my folks and them going trough walls head first.

All I'm saying that someone has to take action so the domino effect can take place.

And that's the main cause for hardship in ex commie states.

>MUH FREE EVERYTHING
>MUH I DON'T WANT THE STRUGGLE
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>>127858097
>homogenost
Neznam bas hoce li tako ostat buduci da sve vise mladih odlazi iz zemlje, pocet ce doseljavat arape, nigere, indijce i ostale uskoro, jeftinu radnu snagu
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>>127858313
>pocet ce doseljavat arape, nigere, indijce i ostale uskoro, jeftinu radnu snagu
>who are hercegovci
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>>127858225
Yeah, I'm sure they weren't exploiting the system to the maximum and fucking over normal people.
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>>127858313
onaj posjet ukrajini početkom godine je bio zbog uvoz ukrajinaca tj. jeftine radne snage, jer nitko neće domaćim gazdama (čitaj robovlasnicima) raditi 12+ sati za minimalac

arapi. nigerijci i indijci neće ovdje opstati, jer je narod ljut i razjaren pa će biti batina. nismo njemačka/francuska/UK da se naguzimo u tom smislu zamjene stanovništva.
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>>127858313

Croatia couldn't handle the strain, we don't give gibs and any attempt to give those fuckers jobs and housing will inevitably lead to them being beaten/houses torched
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>>127854976
>finished law school that lasts 5 years, in 5 YEARS

t. fellow PFZG student
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I'm sad I have to look at all these disgusting Croats everytime I leave my house
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>>127859019
TRUE!
Those are literally average Croat girls!
If you like white women, don't come here!
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>>127859141

That won't work Ivan. You are getting blacked.
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>>127859592
>Ivan
Actually its Ante, you ignorant fuck!!!!
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>>127858313
How strong is the entitlement mentality among Croatians? Do all Croatians believe the government should provide them with FREE healthcare, FREE education, and welfare?
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>>127859592
Nah Croatia is getting blacked not me. Croats behave literaly 24/7 drunkard tier, can't wait leave this trash country
>>127859141
Obviously
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>>127839612
Hrvat Dijaspora descendant here.
It's because of cultural and political problems related to leaving the socialist economy. In cro there's a fair bit of corruption and a lack of work ethic and honesty, which is a requirement for a good economy. This isn't built up overnight but takes a few generations to create. Croatia isn't the best right now but it's coming along at a similar overall rate to Poland or Hungary.

The other problem is how Zagreb and Istra keep voting for commies
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>>127859765
> Croats behave literaly 24/7 drunkard tier, can't wait leave this trash country
Where are you going to go?
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>>127859765
>Nah Croatia is getting blacked not me. Croats behave literaly 24/7 drunkard tier, can't wait leave this trash country
Its fucking sad, leaving to Austria next year btw.
Finished FER and got a job in Wien, preddy gud.
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>>127850163
glasaj protiv... za crnog cigana glasaj samo ne za bandica... i zajebi defitizam
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>>127859861
> . In cro there's a fair bit of corruption and a lack of work ethic and honesty,
If Croatians cut back the number of government institutions which would mean they could reduce taxes Croatia would flourish. Imagine how many people like OP have their aspirations stifled by government bureaucrats.
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>>127859741
free healthcare YES

free education - only primary & high school

welfare - only if you are old or handicapped, bunch of healthy, able to work people live on welfare, especially gypsies, they built entire criminal empire on welfare
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>>127858514
Fuck off commie. YOU are the exact problem with modern Croatia. So many people aren't taking responsibility for their own actions. Instead their sticking with the Marxist narritive of muh exploitation
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>>127860159
Yeah well try and get rid of all these government agencies. That's your best bet. Is there a mafia presence in Croatia? If you start a business will they try to extort money from you?
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>>127859886
Back to my country after the Agrokor shit is over
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>>127860032
no party will do that

and people who regulary vote are mostly loval govt employees... employees of counties, cities, comitees etc. that should not exist
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>>127859861
yeah, obvious dijaspora bullshit

HDZ is literrally the incorporation of all eastern euoprean, post soviet problems
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>>127860384
Yeah that's how it works. Get enough people dependent on government money and they'll convince everyone else through guilt and other retard reasons to keep the government the way it is, until everything collapses
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>>127860032
It's definitely a lot of government problems, but not in the form of taxes (although it certainly is in aus). Over there the cultural and government problems are due to simple corruption. For example my family friends wanted to start an ice cream shop in Zagreb. It kept losing money since the people they hired often stole from the cash register. Or for example my parents wanted to build a house, but the permit took five years to get since they refused to bribe the council. This is the issue which ex socialist nations suffer, rather than taxation.
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>>127850818

This, if I had ability to go anywhere in EU I'd launch my ass to sweden( yes sweden ), or any other EU country, and finish my studies as engineer or lawman and learn the language.

Anything is better than this hellish shithole of whores and bajo moj balkanoid subhuman degenerates oyveying and fucking you over for mere 5$.
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>>127860892
leaving your country will definitely make it better
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>>127860187
>takes responsibility for being born into a rich family that exploited everyone through the exact communist system you're accusing me of supporting
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The only reason Croatia is not as trash as Serbia is because Croatia has tourism, without it Croatia would be as trash as Serbia
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>>127860523
I'm not saying that HDZ is good, far from it. They're still shit, but when you compare them to SDP I'd go HDZ any day. Still though, Most is the best of them
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>>127860369
>If you start a business will they try to extort money from you?
Yes, it's all through the state apparatus though (unless you have a bar or club or something, then it's that + actual gangsters), you have to pay protection to people employed in various inspection and regulation agencies. If you know people, then you know who you have to pay off and how much and they will probably not run your business into the ground, but if you don't, you'll have to spend so much on it that there's no way to succeed, because they know you have no backing and they can fuck you over with no repercussions.
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>>127852601


> Be slavic southern country
> Get invaded by arabniggers all the time
> Finances going down
> Get invaded by Austria for not converting to Catholicism
or
> get appropriated by Austria and get sent to fight their wars

> meanwhile germanfags who raided spqr, sacked all the money, use slavs as cannon fodders and make inventions

> hurrr u slavs are stupid fuks haha xd

> minor prosperity comes

>Tesla arrives


T-t-t-esla wuz A-a-american durrrrrrrr
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>>127861201
you lucky fucks, you got the best of adriatic coast
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>>127861599
>you lucky fucks, you got the best of adriatic coast
it was ours to begin with
we didn't get lucky, we settled there first.
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>>127861599
I'm not a Croat, and believe me, they're not lucky
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Last year i went in Croatia with my friend, and everyone told me how i shouldn't go and that it's a bad place for me, every moment i spent there was nice, everyone was nice to me, even when they knew i was Serbian, just goes to show how stupid Serbians are and close minded
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>>127862424
where have you exactly been?
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>>127861163
The fuck? My grandparents were starving or just working their asses to death (near Imotski on a tobacco farm) so they ran over here. My dad and mum lived in the shittiest suburbs of melbourne (St. Albans) and were the first university graduates from their schools. While i've worked at uni i've been both a a janitor at a kid's play center then later a tutor. Fuck off with your assumptions of a privledged upbringing

Meanwhile you sit there spouting marxist narritives, trying to pull the country back into the same shit my great grandparents, your great grandparents and your parents died for, just because you can't be fucked working.
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>>127862517
in Zagreb, not far from the center of the city
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>>127862541
>implying a commie can understand the meaning of hard work
top kek
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>>127861021

My measured IQ by psych is 134.
I'm 6ft6. I trained, I work hard. And I have now beyond crippling depression.

Nobody values hard work.
Nobody values morals.
Nobody has ideals.
Nobody values sacrifices.
Half of these subhumans have iq below 90, everything is based around image and new clothes.

I can't take it anymore bro. If I made a new political party, I'd probably get killed by local gangsters who were paid by a political party for 100$.
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>>127862619
They probably talked shit behind your back mate
Most people here hate Serbs
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>>127862721
Move to some country and get shekels
come back after u're rich and start a new party
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>>127862731
it's not much different here, well atleast the ones i talked to were nice
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>>127839612

stop being an ustase scum then
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>>127862867
go back
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>>127862721
> If I made a new political party, I'd probably get killed by local gangsters who were paid by a political party for 100$.
yeah i can imagine how you would feel

well if anything consider moving to the usa or switzerland where you might actually make something of yourself. going to sweden is going from one failed socialist state to another
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>>127839612
Social politics.

We should take a good page out of the Founding Fathers of America and restart our legislation while cutting down the government to Military and Law Enforcement.

Then we can have low taxes and jobs.
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>>127862731
Are you or your parents from herzegovina by any chance?
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>>127862952
well his name is Pajser, sounds herzegovian enough to me
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>>127862952
Fuck no
Mother is from Zadar and father is from Sinj and I've lived in Zagreb my whole life.
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>>127839612
Croatians are just spoiled, you live better than most Americans here. The biggest mistake in life I made was immigrating to the US for work, once I pay all my bills, there's practically no money left to spend for yourself. I could live same way in Croatia but at least in croatia my house is paid off, I have access to healthcare and can afford to go on vacation to the sea.
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>>127862721
my advice spend a year overseas working and you will see the West is not such a big deal desu
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>>127863077
STOP INSULTING ME
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>127863190
What state do you live in?
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>>127839612
it's communism, you see even though you've declaratively done away with it, you're in a purgatory of sorts: no yugo gibsmedats alongside relatively low taxes while costs of living and wealth redistribution has increased greatly

then there's also that pesky mental disorder geared towards enforced equality, a particularly large government and its services, and most importantly (((national interest))) that governs nearly all larger companies who somehow manage to find their way to the state budget one way or another

frankly, you'd be an ukraine-tier shithole were it not for the pristine beauty that is your dalmatian coastline

wait a generation or two and it'll get better, we're practically in the same fucking boat here
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You guys should have never given up National Socialism, and should have fought Tito to the fucking death.

t. Serb diaspora.
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>>127863266
California
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>>127863380
Retard

No shit you live in a commie state
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>>127863189
>Mother is from Zadar and father is from Sinj

Could be worse I guess, although not by much.
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>>127863380
California is the third biggest economy in the world and you can't make money for yourself?
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>>127863477
Fuck off dude
At least i'm blonde
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>>127863564
blonde men aren't attractive

TALL
DARK
AND HANDSOME
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>>127863651
I am tall and i am blonde
get fug'd
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>>127863296
>we're practically in the same boat here

But where's your sea?
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>>127863749
we have ours and we own a big chunk of yours too
have you been to istra or krk lately? you're more likely to come across a Janez than Hrvoje there
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>>127848853
You guys need some form of ethics reform or something. The country is way to beautiful to be treated like this.

Also it is not never ending spring/autumn like in goimany
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>>127863993
>have you been to istra or krk lately? you're more likely to come across a Janez than Hrvoje there
top kek
>Slovenes in Croatia census 2011, 10,517
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Croatia
you're not even a majority in 1 single province
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Karma for persecuting Serbs
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>>127864235
they're doing better than us nigga
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>>127863993
I honestly don't care mate, just a bit of ex-yu banter that's all. Although if it was up to me I would have given you the gulf of Piran for nothing, you might as well profit from it.
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>>127839612
((((they)))) jewed you too, eh?

well shit.
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>>127863563
I do make money but once I pay my bills, there's no money left. My rent for two bed room apartment in San Francisco is 3500 dollars a month.
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>>127842165
>golly gosh I don't know how anyone could enjoy Croatia on a US pension
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>>127864561

I'd sleep on a beach


semi srs
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>>127864561
Bro are you retarded? Move to another state? New Hampshire
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>>127864651
yeah, until a pack of niggers rape you
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>>127841813
That's all tried, but in most cases way better off than most other countries if you compare
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>>127852601
Redneck go away. You have 0 knowledge of history.
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>>127839612
Come to austria crobro
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>>127864939
>Implying that i am not planning to already
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>>127865001
croatia 0
austria 1
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>>127865001
Our Balkan Community is big and Strong. The austrians Love croatia. Help us remove Kebap .
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>>127864196
who in their right mind would even want to live there? those are vacationers with various properties strewn all over that I'm speaking of
just take a look at your depopulation of outlying regions/islands and you'll see that you have a real big problem there
>>127864411
me neither, I like you and visit every year; never had any issues
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>>127864319
Really? Thought it was the opposite. Oh well...
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>>127847706
this is because people who employ students don't have to pay taxes or healthcare/pension monies to the government for them

this also produces the effect of students trying to stay students as long as possible, because you'll sooner find a job as a student than by having a degree, and since unlike the US, higher education is either free or if you're a real fuck-up you have to pay cca 1000$ for a year
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>>127865363
He will win again. Make Split great again
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>>127850526
Probably Novalja because of Zrce.

If not that, then Rijeka (it's like Croatian San Francisco basically)
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>>127865538

>tfw we have to pay for public college 1000-2500$

> tfw private ones are 500$ higher

lmao
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>>127860892
Seriously its north africa tier here. We don't even need immigrants from 3rd wolrd
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>>127865874
Degrees from private ones are completely worthless here.
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>>127839612
You guys also have 800E average salary which is not bad
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>>127866097
You're an idiot
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The people who are connected with the ruling political structures have a pretty good life. the poloticians consider the other 50% percent of croatians a pain in the ass and deliberately make their lives harder with stupid laws, and force them to emigrate
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>>127866097
That's around 6000 kn, average one is like 4-5000 kn
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>>127866231
that's exactly what are our politicians doing and they're not even hiding it anymore, some minister recently even openly admitted it's better to emigrate if you can't find a decent job here lmao
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>>127864159
We can't do shit because our society is too divided and fractured. Since the politicians have no fucking clue as to what to actually do once you have power except for steal as much tax money as possible, they rely on inflammatory rhetoric to boost popularity. But this also polarized the country a lot, and the introduction of MOST stealing the previously (relatively) homogenous center-right vote from HDZ, we're condemned to a period of political instability.

In fact, no one even knows right now if the government has a majority in Sabor or not. They got saved last time by the virtue of one vote. And you can't really run a government with several coalition partners and a majority of one person in Sabor.
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>>127865986
oh don't be like that, the economy is north africa tier, but the people are still white and there's pretty places here
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>>127839612
>hot grillz
>99.9% white
>denazification was never done in croatia

whats there to hate? one of the top euro countries in my book right now
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>>127867012
Denazification was in 1945
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>>127867012
>whats there to hate?
people are fucking lazy, more corruption than fucking venezuela and people are fucking sheeps
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>>127866449
and that's not even a bad thing, i can't wait to finish college and emigrate
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>>127866784
I also meant more on crime/drug and degeneracy thing
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>>127867180
same here, where are you going?
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>>127867511
oh yeah, come in Lazarevac and you'll see what drug crimes are
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>>127867012
all good points but no money, to much coruption, hot grillz listen to cajke,
no industry whatsoever, not even a fucking paper mill ( we fucking cut our trees and sell them to italy and In return we get there cheap ass shit furniture, and only the top guys get money from that and its corrupt as hell again ), most of the country is empty and getting more empty
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>>127867987
>mfw hot grillz listen to cajke
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i fear the politicians will wage a war after we are out of money and shitpost


hurrr for ur country and your wymyn xdd fite goys xd
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>>127867987
>hot grillz listen to cajke
i see not problem with that
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>>127868165
>>127868149
fuck you
your degenerate music killed our women
reeeeeeee
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>>127868269
they 'killed' themselves
i don't like our music either, but it's better than nothing
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>>127868269
the serbs that i met listened to rap which is worse in my opinion, idk anyone who listens that here but in serbia it seems popular?
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>>127839612
this country is shit but not any more bad than a generic western country
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>>127868269
relax i don't even know what the fuck that is
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>>127868361
what artists have they listened to? if it's rasta, jala brat etc. it's not a real rap then, more like a hybrid of cajke and some elements of rap

>>127868413
cajke = turbofolk
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>>127868413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DSid5ICiew&list=PL0wxPAKcppW5qXhnfiVg9XUzPkA7zOUoF
>>127868361
its fuging gr8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9CGmauvENk
>>127868345
i guess u're rite
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>>127868345
today's cajke aren't even music, they are (((music))) created specifically to make degenerates out of the guys and whores out of the girls, grand and shit should be banned desu, altho old cajke is quality shit, Jašar, Ipče, Toma etc. that was THE SHIT tho
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>>127867515
wherever they give me a job. germany is nice, i also really like neutral (non NATO) countries like ireland, sweden, switzerland, austria.. the rest of europe are either islamic caliphates or shitty economy or boring and unwelcoming
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>>127868491
idk never bothered asking them
>>127868540
lol fucking awful
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>>127868361
taste varies from country to country, but if you met serbs who listen their own music they are usually assholes or pretentious fucks
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>>127868630
>altho old cajke is quality shit, Jašar, Ipče, Toma etc. that was THE SHIT tho
yes, old cajke all the way familijo
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>>127845047
>They have homes in Zadar and Umag.

If you have money and dont have to work - its a great place to fuck-the-world just chill in nature.
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>>127868653
Noice, im gonna go to Vienna next year, my family lives there already.
Can't fucking wait.
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they will call a satanist if you listen to rock or metal, so there you go, i've been called that a lot before
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>>127868655
I unironically listen to tonci huljic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdRP532H4RY
so fucking chill
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any song that's sung with a serbian accent and isn't a very obvious rock song is considiered a cajka in croatia
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>>127868653
>sweden
>not an islamic caliphates
pick one

>>127868802
OPERI KOSE PRLJAVA METALIKO

>>127868750
my dream is to settle there at some point of my life there and to die in peace
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>nikad neces imat lijepu Azijku za djevojku
zasto uopce i zivjeti?
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>>127868973
>njemu nisu preci crni andjeli
e moj ti
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>>127868802
the mix of the two is best
>>127868876
yeah his songs are interesting
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>>127847882
>but bring your special kebab-removal qualities with you.

muslim-removal qualities is only thing worth here
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>>127868630
IPČE AHMEDOVSKI
Most of people here haven't heard of him
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>>127869067
nisi uzeo žutu pilulu cini se
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>>127868951
>OPERI KOSE PRLJAVA METALIKO
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>>127868973
CRNI ANĐELE
>>127869075
they're fucking awesome in my opinion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEzuw6YnbUQ
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>>127869201


> not listening to Mica Trofrtaljka

Hrvoje why ?
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>>127869282
ukus ti je za kurac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgzmLofpQyA
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>>127869201
my friends listen to him, almost every day
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>>127868973
Split je pun žutih pičaka cile godine. A liti pogotovo
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>>127869375
bilo bi super da ne zivim u slavonskoj pripizdini
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>>127869346
fuck you nigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ruZwwpbgk
>>
Remove COMMIES REEEEEEE!

Seriously we need ''small government'' initiatives and tell the EU to fuck off.
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>>127869375
uh jebem ti hehe zasto se nisam rodio u dalmaciji jebemti zivot
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>>127869459
kilaj se kurvisu vlaski
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>>127869075
>>127869346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz7E_BsKrVI
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4v6yH1H2xQ>>127869459
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>>127869533
ubi se pizdo jebena
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgpJ1IOjUSc
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>>127869577
why the fuck do you listen to these earhurting violent songs
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>>127869697
koji je tvoj problem m8
zkj ste vsi vi dalmasi s jebenih 50 iq bodova manjka
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>>127869735
zato sto je goticar
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>>127869735
you sound like my mom
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>>127869820
>koji je tvoj problem m8
Nema problema
>zkj ste vsi vi dalmasi s jebenih 50 iq bodova manjka
iz Zagreba sam majmune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-om-TpyDgg
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>>127859019
That's what you get for living in Pitomača.
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>>127869820
mozda kompenzacija za mesto gde su rodjeni heh
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>>127869895
zapravo nisam, oblacim se normalno, i imam normalnu frizuru, samo volim da slusam ovakve pesme itd
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>not listening Živo Blato

https://youtube.com/watch?v=n0fDJnTXnrc
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>>127869932
>iz zagreba
to sam i rekel, jebeni zagrebecki dalmas il ercegovec
idete mi vise na kurac vi kaj ste 2 generacije ovde i vec ste si umislili da ste """zagrebci"""
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>>127869932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_wGmO0DG9Q
najbolja hrvatska pjesma
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>>127870063
>idete mi vise na kurac vi kaj ste 2 generacije ovde i vec ste si umislili da ste """zagrebci"""
zasto me ovo neverovatno podseca na nesto... hmm, samo ne mogu da se setim pomoc?
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>>127869975
Šta fali dalmaciji? Osin toga da nan je industrija izvoz kamenja, cementa i brodova
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>>127869820
to ti je ko kmice u africi nemas kaj bit pametan
>>
>>127869577


inb4 you are from belgrade
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>>127870170
to ti je kak i krajisnici kaj su se doselili pred dvajst let kod vas

taj rang
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>>127870248
Lazarevac tacnije, ne mogu da podnesem bg
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>>127862931
this + we also need a new religion,
>>
>>127870414

zivis u lazarevcu ili si samo odatle?
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>>127848853
Same in my country
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>>127870218
naprotiv nista ne fali, nisi me skonto sta hocu da kazem - bog mu dao ponos a oduzeo pamet, na tu foru sam mislio
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>>127870480
zivim u Lazarevcu, a rodjen u Boru
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>>127870265
ne samo oni nego i kosovari, oni su pa najgori ljudi. jeste da su propatili ali vecina njih je na kraju za milionske sume prodala svoja imanja kao najveci izdajnici i dosla da se kurci svugde po srbiji, jebem im ja majku
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>>127870503
Aaa, ništa od svađe. Koji kurac, srpsko-hrvatski thread a nema pizdarija? Neće na dobro
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>>127870063
Ubi se pizdo mala
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>>127870645


mogu da potrvrdim , bahate se ko stoka

generalno svi koji nisu iz beograda a dosli su kao da studiraju se bahate nenormalno i ludiraju po bgu, odakle im pare, ne kontam.
>>
>>127870783
mozda nema židova u koncu
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>>127870783
hahah takvi threadovi su jedini gde dolazim, nema poente svadjati se preko interneta sa osobom koju nikad nisi video u zivotu zbog necega sto se desilo odavno
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>>127864561
arent you literally living in one of the most expensive? unless you ahve good friends there, move somewhere where tis cheaper.
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>>127870902
daj zackomi jebal ti cucak mater hercegovsku
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>>127870951
verovatno jer jos uvek nisu savladali nas jezik, mada imamo dovoljno zidova vec i kod nas. ne znam, zaista cudno...
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>>127871077
kod mene u gradu je židovska zajednica u istoj zgradi kao i pravni fakultet. fuj
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>>127871077
Možda židovskih agenata, al pravih teško. Ipak je Beograd bia prvi judenfrei grad u europi
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>>127870951
>mozda nema židova u koncu

t. svi su mi bili u partiji
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>>127871077
>>127871255
>>127871277
sta je to?
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>>127871042
Jebao ti Hercegovac mater, kmico zagorska.
I kaže se pas, nauči Hrvatski jezik.
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>>127871375
>Štern
nisam hteo o ovome da ti pricam ali provaljen si jos na pocetku
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>>127871375
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>>127869488
i thougth about creating a religion based on the nap (=non aggression principle). when we have the numbers we do what the muslims do and cry about oppression and tell the United States to help get rid of the socialists.
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>>127854976
I bet your parents are civil officials.
My dad worked his ass of as a construction foreman and i sometimes spent several days with no food as a kid when his boss didn't pay him.
I worked my ass of since i was 14 (now i'm 24) saving money for Uni and shit i had to buy on my own.
Going to university ended up as a failure because i didn't have the funds.
Can't get a decent job because i went with general education in Highschool instead of learning a trade or tech-job like poor people should thanks to the principal in my gradeschool being incompetent and telling me i should be a lawyer because i'm good at math and chemistry (she literally said that).
Now i'm working my ass of in Germoney to earn money for a home and to learn a proper trade to earn money with.
Croatia is fucked on so many levels.
Public education is still stuck in the Yugoslav era.
Adult private education is limited to idiotic shit like learning how to use a chainsaw or becomming a security guard at most.
Work market if fucked by both emplyoers not paying workers proper wages and taxes eating away at what little we have.
Also our fucking minimal wage is calculated on a monthly basis.
So it's the same if you work 250 hours or 160 hours.

Reforms:

>Fire public officials we don't need.
>Do away with state institutions we don't need (about every agency except law enforcement and military).
>Reduce number of parlamentary seats to 20 so personal responsibility becomes easier to enforce.
>Ethic reform for politics.
>Copy paste the Amerian Constitution.
>Criminalize communism.
>Ban foreign funded NGOs or tax them to hell and back.
>Initiate property tax to fuck over the banks that keep speculating our property market.
>Reinstate military service using the Swiss model.
>SELL OF GOVERNMENT LAND so our agriculture stands a chance to develop at all.
>Renegotiate our position in the EU. At least regain some of our sovereignity.
>Lower our taxes with the end goal being a flat income tax rate of 10%
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>>127871912
feels bad man
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>>127871463
Hercegovci su bosanski srbi, ne Hrvati.
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>>127872086
zasto nas vredjas sad tako odjedared
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>>127872170
A jebemu nekog moram, ko prvi drek mrvi, ko hercegovac drek je.
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>>127871463
kaze se peso
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>>127848993
what's with the Brits always going for islands, Hvar, Brač, Lošinj
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