>2017 >still not Catholic Why aren't you Catholic

>>127814924
Because the pope is a globalist shill for the Jews. He doesn't even try to hide it. Everyone hates this Poe, he is a complete dickhead

>>127815349
fpbp

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Who needs a Pope when you have Hitler.

>>127814924
Catholics worship Lucifer.

>>127815482

Hitler is dead, so you don't have Hitler.

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>>127814924
Because I'm white..

>>127814924
im a trinitarian, but i disagree that theosis is unnecessary for understanding the divine.

>>127814924
Because I'm an Anglican.

>>127814924
Because I'm not retarded. Christianity is universalist garbage, it needs to be stamped out.
>>127815349
What actual complaints do you have against him? What has he done that is unchristian?

>>127814924
Tried to believe in God, couldn't

>>127814924
I don't want boys getting molested.

Maybe because I don't want to wash nigger feet for a paedophile ring in a refugee welcome t-shirt surrounded by the cunts who mow my lawn.
Fuck off Xtian.
Go worship your dead Jew somewhere else cunt.
Day of the Axe 1488
Hail Odin

>>127816067

>What has he done that is unchristian?

He hasn't done anything that is unchristian.

Watch as the anti-catholic morons of /pol/ post news stories with sensationalist headlines about the Pope that is provably bullshit

>>127814924
>2017 A.D.
>Cuckolic

>>127814924
Don't want to burn in hell for worshipping crackers.

>>127814924
>1 post by this ID
Seriously /pol/
Almost every thread on the front page is a shill slide thread, probably being posted by other shills to slide threads
Are the only threads left brit/pol/ /pol/der eir/pol/ etc?

sage goes in all fields

>>127816706
no, I'm still here.

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>>127814924
Catholic churches in America are polluted by Spics. Incidentally, the Catholic church produces the highest number of interracial marriages. They even marry interracially at a higher rate than atheists accord to Pew Research.

>>127815732
so ?

Where
Are

The Irish Flags

>>127816706
>if the OK doesn't keep posting it's not a real thread
The drawback of IDs, newfags cam think dumb shit like this.

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>>127816314

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>>127816862
Who cares? Who cares what color their skin is, so long as they are sons and daughters of God?

Did you know that some of the most faithful, most conservative Catholics on Earth come from Africa?

>>127814924
I will not pray to marry.

>>127814924
RC has been infiltrated by the marxist globalists

your Pope is a marxist currently

>>127817708
Christcucks all the same, bunch of nigger loving bastards.

>>127817708
why does he have a girl name?

>>127817889
We don't hate anyone, it shouldn't be encouraged to hate someone because of their race anyways. GLR even knew this, people didn't choose what race they would be. All that being said, it is still silly to think race mixing is normal.

>>127815482
Even Hitler had a pope.

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>>127816862
>Higher percent white Buddhists than Asian Buddhists
HAHAHA

>>127817836
so you are Catholic for the Pope ?

not for the Faith ?

what should I say about your corrupt prelates ?

>>127817998
Because he comes from Guinea, where everyone speaks French.

But you cannot begin to imagine how based Cardinal Sarah is. He needs to be the next pope. He would blow out every modernist in his path.

>>127815349
What does that have to do with being Catholic? The pope is not the church. The true church existed long before this pope and will exist long after.

>>127816314
Well for one he is the leader of a false religion.

>>127815513
What makes you believe this?

>>127818153
yes, that's how c*tholics work, you're either with the pope or you're a heretic

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>>127814924
Traditionalist eastern rite catholic reporting.

>>127818220
Catholicism is Christianity. It is the original church, created by Jesus Christ with Saint Peter as the first pope. Protestantism is man-made.

>>127816420
>Orthocux using "A.D"
>Anno Domini
>Latin
>Language of the Catholic Church
>staying Orthocux

>>127818201
yea a history of evil deeds and schemes,

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Tridentine mass.

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Anyway, can we just have a thread for Catholic talk?

I've begun to pray the Rosary every single day. I work part-time and am in grad school, so I have time to do it, and it's what Our Lady of Fatima requested. It's actually very uplifting and gratifying, the idea of it.

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Traditional ordination of presbyters,

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Byzantine rite catholic bishop of Hungarian Greek Catholic Church.

>>127818370
The church of rome was not the first church.


The church of Jerusalem was first. Ephesus, Galatia, Corinth were all churches before rome had a church. Do you even read your Bible or just repeat everything that any uninformed catholic says?

I'm Catholic, I just think that Marcion, Origen and Valentinus of Alexandria made some pretty valid points. Also, Orthodoxy is right about the filioque controversy and the Patriarch of Rome should probably just be co-equal with the other Patriarchs, because giving him supreme power really turned out to be a huge boner.

>>127818500
God bless.

include me in your prayers anon

thank you

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The mass of my rite.

>>127818500
>im a social parasite so i have more time for my waifu

>>127818500
Repetition of prayers is pagan

>>127816314
He does need to answer the Dubia.

>>127818397
so he should say "cл. Хp." even when speaking english because he's not a cucktolic?

>>127818653
The Catholic Church isn't just the roman church though. The original church though it had many member from different regions was united together. Meaning all the baptized faithful and bishops were in communion with one another.

>>127815349
Jorge Bergoglio is not my Pope, he's a Marxist heretic and probably the False Prophet.

>>127814924
>catholicism
>literally Satan's perversion of Christianity

Pick both and I'm okay wtf is a pope anyway

>>127815482
Hitler and majority of German NatSocs were Catholic. Francisco Franco was Catholic.

I'm so sorry about the pope thing guys...

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>5But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, 6And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, 7And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. 8But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

tell me, American Catholics, are you indoctrinated at youth to hate the Catholic Church ?

it's almost like a pavlovian reflex here, americans always sperging out about the Catholic Church

>>127814924
The Papacy is an anti-christ.

>>127819075
*response

>>127818500
If you aren't wearing the brown scapular your sacramentals are incomplete.

>>127815732
>Austria, Italy, Spain, Croatia, a portion of Switzerland, Bavaria is Catholic
>Africa, American nigs, sweden yes, northern/cuck germany, england are predominantly protestant (sweden led protestant league and had aid of ottomans).

>>127818864


That is my point. The church of rome is not the original church because the traditions found in Catholicism do not date back before the church of Rome.

>>127818902
Catholicucks ARE heretical by definition

>>127818854
Yes. Latin has nothing to do with "even when speaking English", you dumb fool. Latin is the official language of the church, the tern "Anno Domini" was created by a Catholic monk. If Catholicism is Cuckloic as you retards call it then it follows the term "A.D" by its origin and nature must "pagan, heresy, cuckoldry xDDD" according to the likes of you.

>>127814924
Because Catholics are going to hell.

>>127819038
if not Borgolgo they would've chosen another shill

isn't it interesting how all the media attacks against the RC stopped after the old pope resigned and this shill got to power?

suddenly the media loves the RC, no more pedophiles, etc.

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Not gonna give OP a you.

>>127819162
The early church offered the liturgy of the mass(ie turning bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ).

>>127814924
because I'm coptic and I rather stay that way
>although I went to a catholic school and I prayed the rosary with my friends, it was nice but I will always stay coptic

>>127814924
The Pope, you know the new friendly Pope, is paying hush money to child raping priests and sending them to remote parts of the world to help them evade prosecution.

Then he says he's the good guy. And Catholics believe him.

That's why I'm not Catholic. It's the same reason I'm not a Republican. I'll never forget how Bush admitted to torturing people, but said it was cool cause he's the good guy.

>eh heh heh heh heh

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>>127819162

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>>127819414
>badasses
pic related

>>127819184
it's a term used in english, in russian, they have their own equivalent of it, etc.

now go suck a nigger foot or whatever it is you cucktolics do

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>>127819162
But the Church in Rome is arguably one of the original Churches, it dates to Peter and Paul's ministry in the city from within a decade or so after the Ascension of Christ. It's not as old as the Church in Jerusalem, but it's close.

By the way, Christians have rightful claim to Jerusalem. It was the site of the Crucifixion and the Resurrection, and it is an earthly metaphor for the eternal Jerusalem which will be established when Christ comes again. Christians should possess Jerusalem. It is theirs by divine right.

>>127819390
Where in the Bible does this happen? They only talked of breaking bread and giving thanks together in the early churches. Check Acts.

How can bread and wine become Christ's body and blood if Jesus is in heaven? Does he cut off parts of his flesh?

>>127819171
how so?

>>127817535
Right here buddy, any catholic worth their salt doesnt respond to these threads

>>127819414
that's fine

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>>127819524
Brother pls
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_Holy_Sepulchre

>>127814924
because Jesus is the true head of the church not some hippy cuck

also through faith alone, through grace alone

>>127819524
My point is the traditions of the Church of Rome were NOT present in the early churches of the Bible or they would be recorded so.

>>127819435
Hey faggot would you Waterboard someone to keep them from hurting your family? I would. These are enemy combatants. His job was to protect this country. I say he did his job

>>127818201
the core of the catholic church has always been the pope

>>127817708
Retarded niggers, color me white.

I'm smart enough to not be a degenerate without the structure religion provides and I am smart enough to not believe in Yahweh.

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>>127819414
God willing, all the apostolic churches will reunite. Maybe it will happen at the Third Council of Nicaea that Francis and Bartholomew scheduled.

>>127819707
Novus Ordo has ruined these kids...

>>127819737
>I am smart enough to not believe in Yahweh.
You seem pretty dumb to me cuh

>>127819519
>it's a term used in english
No it isn't. Protestants do not use the term and it secular first world the term has gone out of use only Catholics and historians remain using. If everything about the Catholic church is heresy of "duckoldry xDDDDDDD aren't i repilled guiese?"""" then he shouldn't be using lest he risks his soul. Idiot, 3rd world monkey.

>>127819737
Being degenerate harms self. It is only logical not to be degenerate.

Still going to hell tho ;)

>>127819844
go suck a nigger foot, Hernandez

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>>127819808
There is no evidence for any deity, but Yahweh stands alone in being the most retarded deity of all time, and even if you could provide evidence of his existence, I would not worship him.

>>127819705
>We have an altar from which those who serve at the tabernacle have no right to eat.

>>127814924
catholicism is idolatry

>>127819905
Get raped by incoming migrants, 3rd world Slav(e)

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>>127819707
No, because if I can tie them down to waterboard them, then they're not a threat to anyone. Because they've already been captured and tied up.

No one was protected by "enhanced interrogation." The intel was unreliable (Bush didn't care, he just wanted more Curveballs). It was just frat-tier posturing.

But, hey, I guess people are still cool with it. Cause we're the good guys. You can tell by all the people we torture and the victims we don't give a single shit about.

>>127819928
We all choose whom we will serve anon and there is only two choices. Choose wisely bro

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>>127819705
Really? They all bubble up from the Gospels. All the Seven Sacraments which the Church administers have their origins in Christ, or are officially sanctioned by him.

And in particular, the very beating heart of the Church, the Eucharist, comes from Christ, and the doctrine of the real presence, which Catholics believe but most Protestants do not, is present in Christianity from the beginning.

>>127820061
Yahweh is a prick. I will side with the true hero of mankind, Lucifer.

>>127819502
martyrdom is the biggest blessing a christian could have
>mfw I badly want to receive it, but I'm so weak

>>127819759
I pray for it too, but there is so much differences between Catholics and orthodox

>>127819435
>That's why I'm not Catholic.
"That Judas guy steals the money we give to help Jesus. He's so naive. That's why I can't follow him."
There was a snake in the garden since day one, it's in the job description.

> Then he says he's the good guy. And Catholics believe him.
Only the catholic normies.

>>127819999
i won't, they go to germany and france to rape your weak cucktolic brothers

>>127820125
I'm Rum Katulik. How different are we?

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>>127820125
"Nothing will be impossible for God."

Have faith, and trust in the Lord, and His will indeed will be done. We will see God's glory in this life as well as in the next, if only we are willing to follow Him wherever he leads us.

>>127820211
>France
>Germany
About as Christian as Macedo.... I mean a non country like yours

>>127820157
Not really sure where you're going with the Judas analogy.

The problem is that people are cool with it. Shitheel leaders come and go. It's when everyone fine with it that the rot starts to overtake everything.

And coming from an organization that claims to have all the moral answers, well, I'm just not going to believe that they have the slightest interest in morality when by their own standards they're monsters.

I can respect a monster who does not hide it. But Catholics always have some excuse for why it is not so evil...

>>127820053
>fuck up opfor
>grab a fucker before they all retreat
>hey tell me where you friends are before they attack us again
>no
>proceed to water board
>I'll tell you everything anon
>attack averted everyone safe at base MAGA
>t-thank you bushsama and your amazing watered board

>>127819171
>Catholicucks ARE heretical by definition
According to which of the 33,000+ protestant groups?

Can't you see that God Himself would be smarter than to leave us with a book and a good bye?

>>127814924
>Arnoldists
>Waldensians
>Hussites
>Lollards
>Huguenots
>St Bartholomew's Day Massacre of 1572
All persecuted by the Roman Catholic heresy.
FUCK YOU WHORE OF BABYLON
LONG LIVE THE MARTYRS

>>127814924
I'll take Catholicism over Islam every day, but i mean... it's still jew on a stick frankenstein government-religion.

Like, it's good to repackage societal rules in an easy to swallow pill, but personally, I'm ok.

>>127820300
Yahweh will fall beneath the sword and Lucifer will rule in the heavens.

>>127819075
Yes, the Catholic Church is seen as a globalist communist organization. They have no borders, share their wealth across continents, and integrate indigenous peoples instead of exterminating them.

Vicar of Christ adds up to 666, the pope is not Christ or his representative on Earth. It was wrong for the Bishop of Rome to proclaim universal authority and expect all priests to become celibate which has been a disaster. Many Catholic and Protestant teachings since Augustine have been completely tainted by gnosticism.

>>127819171
According to whom? Protestants that didn't exist until the 1500s and later? Unless you're Orthodox, you don't get to call Catholics heretics and be taken seriously.

>>127820388
Torture does not work for getting reliable intelligence. They say whatever you want them to say in the end.

But since you know better than the Pentagon, I'll defer to your wisdom, anon, and stop trusting all these so-called "experts".

>>127820397
God doesnt need a representative you fucking cuck worshiping pagan

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>>127820444
But Satan has already failed. He failed almost 2000 years ago, when Christ rose in triumph from the dead. The power of death is gone and eternal life is open to all who follow Christ's path.

>>127820397
>God Himself would be smarter than to leave us with a book and a good bye?

man corrupts his book does not

>>127820229
What is that?!

>>127820300
Amen

>>127820588
but men wrote his book?

>>127820473

clap hands... what denomination are you ?

>>127820571

Jesus is Love

>>127820634
They were directed by God. God wrote the ten commandments.

>>127819705
>were NOT present in the early churches of the Bible or they would be recorded so.
Except the Bible itself says that there are traditions as well as words and acts of Jesus which are not written down in the Bible and that were being passed orally when the Bible was being written.

>>127820086
No it is not the case at all.

Baptism in water is done only an inward change in heart.

How can a 13 day old baby understand these things?

This is wickedness.

>>127820571
Yahweh is a weak coward, just like his slaves. You have been deceived and now willingly subjugate yourself for a lord that doesn't deserve your respect.

Yahweh is undeserving of worship.

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>>127814924
But I am OP.

Br. Nathanael: Is the dialogue between Jews and Catholics bearing any fruit?

E. Michael Jones: Only for the Jews.

For example, last January, Rabbi David Rosen, Director of the American Jewish Committee’s Department for Interreligious Affairs, told the Jerusalem Post that he would be “very surprised” if the Society of St. Pius X were readmitted to the Catholic Church due to Bp. Williamson’s ‘holocaust denial.’

Earlier, Rosen told the Post, “The embrace of an open Holocaust denier and the Society he represents, is shameful, a serious blow for Jewish-Vatican relations.”

Rabbi Rosen is now claiming veto power for the Jews in determining who is and who is not a good Catholic so as either to be admitted or shut out from the Church. In other words, dialogue has become the vehicle for Jewish control of the Catholic mind.

Br. Nathanael: What about maintaining good relations with the Jews?

E. Michael Jones: The Church can have unity or she can have good relations with the Jews. But she can’t have both.

>>127820540
>trusting the pentagon

Yea tell me all about how torture, a method for extracting information that has been around for thousands of years has been ineffective the whole time. Oh and I'm still waiting for that Russia trump collusion proof bro

>>127820634
god wrote the book trough man a instrument like a typewriter

>>127815349
I gotta agree. This pope is rotten to the core with relativism

>>127819125
>Barbayrans, moors, moolies, and slavs
>Not Ab-Whites

And don't forget that most of the countries you mentioned are full of lazy shitbags with no sense of work ethic. That's no surprise since according to the pope, all you need to do to get into heaven is get water poured on your head, tell them your secrets, and attend weekly incense huffing contests. No reason to not be a useless parasite if you got eternal salvation given to you for free.

>>127820743
the church is directed by god then too

the church was created by the same people who wrote the new testament, the chruch are the accepted teachings and interpretations of their work

the problem with protestantism is everyone has their own interpretation of the bible

they can claim the most absurd things imaginable because that is their interpretation, it's wrong and it doesn't work, it's heresy

>>127820691

I'm considering Orthodoxy, but as of right now I'm learning everything I can about Christ, his teachings, the early church and history.

>>127820751
HA! Funny man here!

The Bible claims AUTHORITY in all matters of Holiness. If if tradition goes against the Bible, the tradition is of the devil.

>>127820774
We also have baptism by fire, the Sacrament of Confirmation.

Br. Nathanael: Are Catholics beginning to react against Jewish control of the Catholic Church?

E. Michael Jones: Indeed they are. Our Bishops are beginning to as well. This is because dialogue has become a synonym for Jewish subversion of Church teaching.

After years of dialogue, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops under the direction of Cardinal Keeler, issued a joint Catholic Jewish statement in 2002 on “Covenant and Mission” which affirmed that Jews could be saved without accepting Christ as their saviour.

However, in June 2009 the same bishops had to issue a “clarification” which repudiated their own statement. It turns out that, upon reflection, the bishops concluded that the Mosaic covenant between God and the Jews was no longer “eternally valid,” and that Jews did have to convert if they wanted to be saved after all.

Br. Nathanael: You say that dialogue is a synonym for Jewish subversion of Catholic teaching. Are there any examples of this activity by organized Jewry?

E. Michael Jones: Yes. In spite of all the dialogue, Jewry’s hidden agenda to subvert the Church came to the fore recently.

On September 17, 2009, the Anti-Defamation League, the American Jewish Committee, B’nai B’rith International, the Central Conference of American Rabbis, Hadassah, the Jewish Council for Public Affairs, the National Council of Jewish Women, Na’amat USA, the Rabbinical Assembly, the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, and the Women of Reform Judaism, all signed a friend of the court brief demanding that Obama allow the Catholic Church no exemptions of “Right of Conscience” when it comes to hiring homosexuals. Jews allow for themselves “right of conscience” but will not allow it for Catholics.

The intent behind Jewry’s court brief to Obama is to create a fifth column within the Catholic Church, one which, because of the nature of its sexual activities, can be used to prompt a whole new series of lawsuits. With “Elder Brothers” like this ... who needs enemies?

>>127814924
All middle eastern religions are total garbage,
the more stuff from real science you get to know,
the clearer that picture becomes

>>127820803
Satan is conquered because Jesus rose from the dead.

>>127820594
Arabic for Greek Catholic. Melkite.

>>127820961
Show how any aspect of Holy Tradition which contradicts Scripture.
Protip: you can't.

>>127820961
>The Bible claims AUTHORITY in all matters of Holiness. If if tradition goes against the Bible, the tradition is of the devil.
the problem is, you can interpret the bible anyway you choose

the church is the accepted interpretation and teaching of the bible

>>127820872
Torture as an intelligence gathering method is ancient, but rare throughout history.

Cause it doesn't work. People prefer methods that work and the stats are very clear on this. Bribes have always been the preferred way to get intelligence and defectors.

There's been a hundred conquerors in the model of Genghis Khan, but there's only been a handful of Tamerlanes.

>>127820961
P.S. The Bible you place so much faith and authority in was compiled and canonized by ecumenical councils of the very Church you're claiming to be heretics.

>>127820980
The baptism of the Holy Spirit comes when a person believes and trusts in Jesus. Its not a "step" in sanctification.

>>127821062
That sand nigger never rose from anything. Lucifer is never conquered, just as men are never conquered. Yahweh's chains can only bind you if you wish to be bound, he isn't even a strong tyrant, he is a pathetic snake.

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being a cathocuck in 2017 and beyond

fuck this semite shiat out religion.

>>127820939
No, protastants have things in common. Its Unity in the Big things and Diversity in the Small things. Your leader claims to do the interpreting for you... you are literally a fucking tool for sucking up money. Get free man, If jesus wanted to setup a church system he would have done just that and wrote a whole book on it. Instead he gathered a loose group of teens and hooligans and fucked up the jews shit.

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>>127820859
>>127821027
Here you go. Have fun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersessionism

>>127820540
1. Torture does work
2. Only in certain % of cases
3. Problem is separating shit confessions from truth
-->Torture is effective, but unreliable

I'm a Catholic but I don't like the Clergy, I feel much more like a Protestant. I might convert to Calvinism.

>>127814924
Thanks, I prefer Christianity instead.

>>127821093
Priests/pope (which means father) being called father:

Matt 23:9
And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
-Jesus Christ


Catholics places of worship are FULL of graven images of things in heaven
Exodus 20:4

You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

>>127821409
Bon, mais je prefere House Church ou Huguenot.

>>127821094
Heres a tip: read the Bible literally.

The catholic church does not follow the Bible, and directly contradicts it.

>>127821428
KEK

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>>127821455

What is even worse they removed the commandment because they know they are in the wrong

>Jewish ideologies like Roman Catholicism
>/pol/
pick one

>>127821523
>Huguenot
My ancestors probably killed a few.

As a person who was born into the Catholic Church, I hated how ignorant and intolerant everyone was at that fucking church when it came to other people. They all piss me off. They are not willing to understand the people they criticize, and instead feel even more entitled to keep shit talking these "others" who aren't Catholic behind their back.

Fuck the Catholic Church.

>>127821535
Tip, read it in Latin, the English version has many distortions, catholics just follow it in other language.

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>>127821172
>vulgate
>bible
pick one

>>127821673
anglo protestcucks worship the king james bible

maybe we should call them jamists

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>>127821644
>Roman Catholicism and Catholics have historically been very anti-Jewish
>It's a Jewish ideology

Sure m8

>>127821673
see
>>127821733

>>127818609
>Byzantine
>Greek
>Iconography
>Commixture Eucharist
>Crowned Bishops
Just join Orthodoxy dude.

>>127821673
Read the greek for more accuracy. Also, see

>>127821455

The latin says the exact same

>>127821733
>>127821673

The Greek Septuagint is probably the most accurate

>>127821838
I do read it english in portuguese and in latin. English is just too different from the rest.

>>127821063
really?! it's the first time I here a word like this.
>It's even the first time I here about greek catholics, is it different from the roman catholic?

anyway...
I know that the bread in the orthodox church is different from the catholics'
and that we celebrate easter and christmas on different days because we use the Gregorian calendar
the seven sacraments are the same but done very differently
and there's more stuff but that's all I know...

>>127821668
Alas, like many people in europa your ancestors were tricked and used by the Catholic War Machine. Forgive and move on. I have personally seen a huge underground movement of Hugenots and Eglies de Maisons en France. Its spreading in the south like wild fire.

>>127821915
Here you are right, but I still learning the language.

>>127821766
The Word of God is Jesus. The Bible is a living document.

>>127821996
The bible is, the problem is translating it to complete strange language. English grammatical is just too different from greek or latin.

>>127821996
yes, originally written in greek

>>127821996
The Bible is a constantly mistranslated document. There was never a virgin birth, it was misinterpreted by from the Hebrew word, "alma"

>>127821950
Interesting. Do you have any info? I'm from the South.

Because I'm white

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>>127821733
No man, they assembled more than the Vulgate. The whole canon of the Bible is declared by the same authority the gospels were written authoritatively by: the promise given by Jesus to be guided by the Holy Spirit when declaring doctrine.

>>127822109
>the old gnostic heresy
>2017

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Yes goys, the catholic church hasn't been compromised by Jews at all, now kiss refugee feet and follow Vatican II just like the pious little goys you are.
>>127822109
>hebrew
>NEW TESTAMENT
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>127819075
Yes, we are taught that Catholics are the biggest hypocrites who rape children and promote alcoholism. That's my personal experience anyways.

>>127820125
I have endless amounts of respect for the Coptic view of martyrdom. I simply don't think I have the stuff it takes to send ISIS thank you notes after attacks.

>>127822259
disgusting

the catholic church is cucked beyond repair after vatican ii

>>127822093
Try actually reading it sonetime
>>127822098
Yup the greek agrees with the modern translations especially the KJV.

>>127822226
You call that in English, we call that the reformer heresy here.

>>127822413
>Yup the greek agrees with the modern translations especially the KJV.
nah, there are problems in misinterpretation that leads from mistranslation

like how some protestant sects believe that man must wear a suit and cut his hare short and shave his face because he believes it says so in the KJV

all you protestant sectists are cray

>>127822093
Try actually reading it sonetime
>>127822098
Yup the greek agrees with the modern translations especially the KJV.

>>127822429
God is spirit.

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>>127814924
don't you have some feet to kiss pierre ?
maybe you should open your house to refugees that's what jesus would have done amirite ?

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Because your cult trys to rob productive men for fertilizing women.

The more productive the man the more he gets ripped off.

You need to be culled from society.

>>127822679
says the fat slob

>>127822567
The Bible says no such thing

>>127815969
Anglican Use. I know the retired ordinary.
>>127818609
I'm good friend with a Greek Catholic bishop. He's the best.
>>127821946
Greek Catholic = Dyophysite Orthodox who united with the Pope.
>>127822363
stfu "aлeкcaндep".

>>127814924
Because im neither a frenchie, slav or bavarian

>>127822138
Trusting you're not a jesuit shill.
I cant give you specific names of leaders (which is how people get in) over the internet but If youre near Provence or somewhere near Toulouse or even Lyon there are underground churches with young people and families all around those areas. If I were you and lived near a University city, say Avignon, I would look up Agape or YoungLife. They are protestant campus groups and can get you any info you need

See

>>127821455

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>>127814924
because god isn't real you dumb fucking scared little faggot

>>127821946
Catholic priests can't marry, ever.
The participation of girls is different (young girls can serve in liturgy i believe)
Use of iconography.
Authority of the Pope for Catholics vs. the Ecumenical Patriarchate.
Oh, and the fact that the majority of American Catholics don't even know Orthodoxy exists.

>>127822138
look up Agape or YoungLife on university campuses.

>>127823065
Which goes against the Bible

>>127822953
Ok thank you. I'm from the Toulouse region.

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>>127822860
this is the verse he's talking about
1 Corinthians 11
7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
of course, nothing about suit or shaving, and it depends on whether the reader believes hair counts as a head covering

>>127814924
Because the current pope is a cuck trying to destroy Europe. I'm convinced he's actually an atheist

>>127823101
Pardon?

>>127817511
>Christian
>White
Pick one

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>>127814924
Fuck catholics

They're still not as bad as protestants though, protestants aren't even christian

>>127823016
Try not to cut yourself on all that edge you depressed fat faggot. You have my sympathies for being an eternal virgin

>>127823233
I know what he which chapter he was talking about. I was hoping he would read tbe chapter and get some context.

>>127823183
No problem, good luck and God Bless you on your journey brother.

>>127814924

"Catholic" means "universal;" not "institutional." The wheat and tares are sown together (Matt 13:24-30).

I believe the Apostle's creed and the Quicunque Vult, "And the catholic faith is this. . ."

>>127819759
Bartholomew is not relevant at all, literally no one important of Orthodox will attend just watch

>>127814924

Christianity is cuckery, just listen to this woman talk about love for people who rape her kids.

http://www.fdrpodcasts.com/#/3666/i-dont-want-to-be-a-pirate-call-in-show-april-26th-2017

>>127823065
1 Timothy 3:1-2King James Version (KJV)

3This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

>>127817684
That's right. Just ignore it and act like it wasn't posted.

>>127823436
Thank you. I hope it's not some nigger tier evangelists.

>>127823065
My last pastor was married. I've met a lot of married Catholic priests.

>>127817708

>niggers worshiping authority without understanding anything

Ok. Are you going to tell me you think youtuber KSI is intelligent next?

>>127821409
Pray and read your Bible.

Protestent/Evangelical
Family left the catholic church for some reason

>>127823609
Me too!

>>127814924
>Catholic
>Getting cucked by the pope
No thanks, I am an orthodox christian.

>>127823666
so you're cucked by your corrupt prelates.

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>>127823485
>listens to molymeme
>calls others cucks
nice try netherlands

>>127823694
>thinking that I go to a church
Yeah no, I have my god I don't need priests and churches.

>>127819759
I am an Orthodox Christian and, except some protestand sects which aren't even Christian anymore, i see all Christians as my brothers.
But i don't wan't to see yoga lessons in my church or power rangers themed liturgy so it's for the best that the union will not take place.

Also Bartholomew doesn't have any power over the Orthodox church, he is there to serve not to dictate. If he tries anything sneaky he will just be excomunicated as a heretic and that's all.

>>127823485
You understand all groups will have nutjobs in them right? Ever heard of stalin or moa?

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>>127823666
Those digits. Ew.

My best friend was the personal assistant to the Serbian Patriarch delegation at the Great and Holy Synod. True story.

>>127823817
>Orthodox Christian
>doesn't need Sacraments

oh, sad to see that you have this same kind of "christians" here

>>127823285
See
>>127823522

>>127822347
thank you :,)
we know it's sad, frustrating and heartbreaking for the families that lost there loved ones
but comforting to know that they are with God all the bible tells us that God will bring our right

>They will put you out of the synagogues. Yes, the time comes that whoever kills you will think that he offers service to God.(John 16:2)

>>127823572
Im not gonna lie, We "Christians" and "Evangelicals" have a huge subversion problem that makes christians passive lib cucks. There are some faggot evangelists involved but there are also top tier borderline 1488ers. Its hard to meet a truly redpilled christian these days but more and more are starting to wake up.

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>>127819171
>Protestant saying this
You can't get more ironic than one of the thousands of schismatic churches claiming the original church to be the heretic.

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>>127824005
be strong

>>127814924
Don't want to be molested by a priest.

>>127823896
>oh, sad to see that you have this same kind of "christians" here
>Flag
Upset that they are making you read the quran to your kids?

>>127824158
no, I'm just upset to see that you are also plagued by the "I'm Catholic/Orthodox but I don't need a priest, confession and Eucharist"

>>127824035
See
>>127818653
And
>>127819162
And
>>127820961

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>>127819171
Your average Protestant preacher

>>127824035
t. heretic
>Pope Francis warned on Thursday against an excessive rigidity, saying those within the Church who tell us “it’s this or nothing” are heretics and not Catholics.
http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/06/09/pope_those_who_say_%E2%80%9Cthis_or_nothing%E2%80%9D_are_heretics_/1235939

>>127823258
He's just incapable of rallying his base.
The American Presidential Election shows you that the US doesn't give a damn about what he has to say.
If he started actually answering questions about what the Catholic church's stance on things like abortion, homosexuality, and Islamic terrorism people could rally behind him.
Instead he gives very vague answers that I would expect from someone with less authority, like a pastor.

>>127823522
In my denomination Bishops separate (not divorce) from their wives or were never married. Reading the NIV translation the text uses the word "overseer" instead of Bishop (but the greek word episcope most nearly means that).
So I understand where you come from with this.
I will consult my biological father, who is an ordained priest, about this subject.
Thank you.

>>127814924
>Why aren't you Catholic yet

Germans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKZPgGbUuX0

>>127824363
And the pope calls for muslim immigration/acceptance.

Female proddie bishop is heretic tier.

t. Proddie

>>127824363
I hold no negative feelings towards Protestants. But honestly they have got to be the loosest religious collective this side of the hemisphere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFtI_mVOXbQ

>>127814924
because I already belive in stuff that wont happen and that won't do anything to change my life, so I don't need another thing.

>>127815482
>Who needs a Pope when you have a failure who single-handedly destroyed the concept of Nationalism in Western Europe for decades leaving the door wide open for globalism to take root

>>127825569
>if you kill your enemies they win

so what brings you to USA, weedman?

>>127815836
here's a (you) because I agree with you.

Theosis is garbage, and exactly what Jesus Christ is going to destroy, pharisee culture has no place in the word of god.

>>127819414
May God protect you, anon

>>127814924
The papacy is not biblical.

>>127826638
America isn't biblical.

The pope is a false idol.

>>127823016
nice reddit maymay fedoralord

>>127814924
i never understood the thing about confession

i pray to God, i talk to God, i ask God for forgiveness when i do something wrong

why does there need to be a middleman? does he get better reception or something? does he have more facetime with God? i know Catholics used to believe the Pope was infallible and talked directly to God. So theres a heirachy?

If there is a heirarchy you are saying that one person is better than another in the eyes of God, like if the worst sinner became a priest he can converse more with the Big G than a virtous farmer or shepard.

That concept pisses me off

>>127826638
why did so many follow the original papacy's?

Catholic master race here.
aye

>>127826878
Power

>>127826720
heathen.

>>127826937
First off, the papacy is not part of Biblical Christianity.

They followed the pope because the catholic church would not allow common man to read the Bible.

>>127826878
It was likely originally so the church could collect dirt on it's followers for use in cohesion and blackmail.

>>127826969
Wind?

>>127814924
It is jewish made so no

>>127827109
To give the church power over people.

All in all 7/10 shitpost tho, leaf.

>>127827061
Yes I understand the papacy isn't connected but why wouldn't they let them read the word of christ?

>>127826972
He is though, celebrities in general are false idols and the pope falls into that category. It may not have always been that way but it most certainly is now, the pope is treated like god himself by most roman catholics.

>>127827330
Because they controlled the people by saying they were the intermediary in which to receive forgiveness of sin which is completely contrary to the Bible.

"Go to our church and follow our rules/traditions or go to hell" is a pretty good motivator.

>>127827530
Thaks for the info.

>>127826638

>And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

But I guess you believe its all open to interpretation, right?

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>>127827420
Why did this happen?

>>127815349
I agree and im catholic. The church is more than just the incumbent pope though

>>127827530
Explain why the Apostles act as leaders then

>>127815969
Come over to the dark side brother. I did. Women and practising gay clergy is an abomination.

>>127828096
>there is no coercion with God
>believe in me or suffer in Hell for eternity
Wouldn't be like the bible to contradict itself.

>>127816171
Try again

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TVaeZAtP70U5Co5WOirhinQ&v=s2ULF5WixMM

>>127820830
Haha found you again Wolf.

Just need to look for the word Catholic and I'll find ya. Hope all is going well.

>>127816219
Then bring them into the catholic church. We have the lowest rates of molestation of all groups. Much lower than protestants and athiest childcare groups.

>>127827530
> Sola scriptura
> Sola fide
> Sola gratia
> Solus Christus
> Soli Deo gloria

HIER STEHE ICH
ICH KANN NICHT ANDERS

>>127816264
Wew edgy

>>127828479
The five SOLAES contradict all the early christians

>>127816862
Go to a non spic church then

>>127828450
worst crime of all crimes, and that is your defense.

>>127817765
Don't then. No one forces you to.

>>127817836
We have had worse and the church has still survived

>>127818260
Incorrect. You can disagree with everything the pope says and does. Only when he speaks ex cathedra peter, which this pope has never done, do you have to believe it

PROTIP: Jesus said himself that worship God rather than him and what you Turbo retards do?
Yeah guy who denied your Semite on a stick multiple times sets up this church of yours.
Jesus is just put there to distant you from God, this holy Trinity bullshit...

N-Word plz

>>127814924

Orthodox is the way to go mang. No one here is going to defend Francis and his feel-good nonsense. Infallibility was a mistake.

>>127818662
The thing is orthodox theology agrees with that the holy spirit also proceeds from the son. They just protest the use of filioque in the creed (which rome has made optional anyway) because they say an ecumenical council is required to alter the creed. Orthodox also agree that the pope has primacy however they only consider it administrative not theological, despite the scripture clearly showing peter as the proto apostle being divinely ordained. I do think though that rome made a mistake in pushing forward theologically without the consent of the pentarchy. What we need is an ecumenical council to hash out all the disagreements

>>127818714
That's a beaut

I'm not a jew.

>>127818808
>our father who art in heaven....

>>127829405
as a teaching, maybe

as an organization - NO FUCKING WAY
PПЦ is rotten to the core
a few good men inside survive in spite of the church, not thanks to it

>>127828018
Peter's authority was shared among the other apostles and local churches. Nowhere does scripture say that he has authority over them.

>>127825569
>fucking goyim shouldn't stand up for themselves, you made us to this gentile

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>>127814924

Pic related

>>127819252
Why?

>>127821877
Why should they?
They just left it for the true Church of Christ.

>>127829596
Sola Fide contradicts the Bible and early Christians

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mother mary pray for all of us in this thread

>>127819414
God bless you anon. I told my priest about the coptic massacre on friday and the sunday masses were spent in remembrance of our persecuted coptic brothers. He also dropped redpills to the congregation about how you won't find much about it in the news.

I hope our communions can be rejoined soon for we are one catholic and apostolic church. I'll be praying for your safety brother. God be with you

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>>127829865
Hail Mary, full of grace.
Our Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb,
Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

>>127819435
Most of rome wants him gone, they just can't say anything because he fires dissenters. Believe me anon we are just as scared of the damage this pope is doing as you are. Jesus' body will prevail though.

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>>127819571

Also not everything is in the bible. Read the writings of the early church fathers

Transubstantiation is a mystery of faith

>>127828190
Leaders are needed. Controlers focused on power are not leaders.

The Apostles all taught Biblical Christianity, not this fake dead catholicism catechism satanic control grid religion.

>>127828479
>>127828545
Read the Bible

>>127819663
Where in the bible does it say "faith alone"?

>>127814924
>grow up catholic
>go to catholic grade school and high school
>debate fedoras online, usually end up winning
>start to debate people who are actually intelligent, end up losing most of the time due to employing reasoning which is unsubstantiated
>start reading the works of apologists to figure out how to improve my arguments
>find a decent amount of good improvements on my arguments, but over time notice inconsistencies and fallacies elsewhere
>start playing devil's advocate (no pun intended) in arguing for atheism to see if it is my ability
>end up being on the logical side of debates/arguments most of the time through my knowledge of the problems with religious interpretation
>decide to not be religious anymore over the course of a year, but I won't actively seek to undermine religion
I've been this way ever since without any real change and I don't usually debate religion to any degree.

>>127830155
The Bible is God's written word. All otber texts are more God-breathed. The Bible is a living document.

>>127819720
No the core of the church is the eucharist: the body of christ. The pope is merely the earthly prime minister

>>127819737
I bet you masturbate and watch porn. Therefore you are a degenerate

>>127830180
Protestantism focus on ego

>>127830216
John 3:16New International Version (NIV)

16For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,;">that whoever believesin him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Ephesians 2

8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.


Romans 4

4What then shall we saythat Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh,discovered in this matter?2If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God.3What does Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”

>>127830298
Which cannot be understood via sola scripture

>>127830298
Two thoughts.... all texts come second. If it does not agree with the Bible, it is not orthodox doctrine

>>127830523
Meanwhile

Romans 2:5-13 5 "But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God 6 Who will RENDER TO EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 For not the hearers of the law [are] just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified."

Doesn't fit with Sola Fide, now does it?