I don't understand /pol/... If Britain and France declared

>>127805154
The treaty which guaranteed Poland stipulated that the U.K. would only come to it's aid if it went to war with Germany and not the USSR.

>>127805154
All sides were cunts in WW2 but Jews were by far the worst,

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>>127805653
Can I get some sources on that

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pathetic bump

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>>127805154
>If the bullet that killed Anton Cermak killed FDR instead.

I wonder how many even know Britain and France declared war on Germany first. I feel like the average person on the street, so brainwashed by Allies = good; Axis = evil propaganda, would tell you Germany declared war on them.

Was the UK meant to win a war against Germany? I mean, the royal family were Nazis...

>>127805154
>WTF was WWII fought over?
Britain wanted to control all of Europe but was so weakened by the war that USA became their master and dismantled their empire

>>127805154
Also,

>why did those same powers give Poland to the USSR at the end of the war?

They were no position to challenge them, plus they had 20/20 hindsight on the value of sovereign guarantees and the price paid for them.

>WTF was WWII fought over?

The real reason was to ensure the dominance of the Bank of England over the continent. The US couldn't care less about Europe and avoided it at all costs because we were banking on arms sales to both sides.

This also continued after Pearl Harbor, through Sweden and other "neutral" nations.

>>127805154

Because the war wasn't against Hitler but the economic superpower germany outperforming them since they united in 1871. Also (((they))) were behind the entente and naturally didn't attack (((bolshevists))) who killed tens of millions of white christian russians in the soviet union for their agenda.

>>127805154
The anglos were afraid of German European hegemony and would rather have the entire world go to war than lose it.

>be Germany
>claim self-determination, just like US and Britain
>ask for 90%+ german Danzig back
>negotiate with Poland for Danzig
>Britain spergs out, guarantees Poland
>Poland stops negotiations because they have Britain on their side now
>Germany can't get Danzig
>Germany allies with Russia, whom they hate, to scare Britain out of the Polish guarantee
>Britain continues to be suicidal
>????
>Germany needs to declare war to occupy Danzig
>Britain declares war on Germany dragging the entire world into war over Danzig territy
>muh "Hitler wants to conquer the world" propaganda sent to the US this entire time
>not a single British troop lands in the defense of Poland
>sell out Poland to Stalin at end of war

We aren't the good guys.

>>127809062
>(((they)))
>>127808830
>Bank of England over the continent

Absolutely correct.

Chamberlain, Halifax, and Churchill were all insecure warmongering (((puppets))).

>>127809096
Germany was "ourguy" until Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and Hitler had to be autistic.

We were making an ass-ton of money on supplies war supplies to both Japan and Germany up until that point.

Germany had cheap labor and and pro-investment attitude when Hitler took over. Wall St was heavily invested and provided the capital for Germany to open factories again and start selling. How else do you think and bankrupt ravaged power created industry out of thin air?

That was the German Miracle.

>US capital investment
>Germany state spending
>cheap workforce

>>127809434
>Chamberlain, Halifax, and Churchill were all insecure warmongering (((puppets))).

Yep.

They bet everything on Red and ended up with a disaster.

If the US remained neutral and just sold to everyone it would have been:

>No pearl harbor
>Dems out after 1940
>No US involvement

Russia would have been the one fighting on 2 fronts and Britain would be a German puppet state. Australia most likely would have fallen to Japan.

>>127809096
>"B-b-ut, he broke up czechoslovakia!"
Czechoslovakia wasn't a country before Versailles and was collapsing. Hungary, Poland, and Romania begged Germany to intervene with Czechoslovakia, make it a vassal, and give the ethnic Hungarian, Polish, and Romanian lands to their respective countries.
>"H-h-e took over Austria!"
Anschluss was widely supported and 90%+ voted for it. Hitler was fucking Austrian-german himself jesus christ.


Bonus round: Britain blockaded and starved Germany during WWI

Bonus bonus round: The communist revolution in 1911 was led overwhelmingly by Jewish people.

Wow it's almost like every side of history can reasonably judge their actions.

>>127809881
Didn't Hungary also invade Czechoslovakia too?

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Check the GDP for Germany in 1939, and then check France and England in that same year.

>>127810005
Yeah. Poland was also equally "guilty" in partitioning the lands for itself.

Were they guilty though? Because the lands were predominately Polish and everyone was about muh "self-determination."

I do know they were assholes, because Germany did the dirty work helping him get the Czechoslovakian land they needed, then immediately backstabbed Germany by being dicks over Danzig.

>>127810027
Pay close attention to what year and month the global Great Depression ended.

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>>127810248
Pay close attention to what year and month the global Great Depression ended.

>>127810027
The fact of the matter is the German haplotype is one of the most intelligent, creative, and industrious in the world. Whether it be culture, epigenetics, genetics, or all of the above.

The issue is they are utterly altruistic of other people to a fault. Hence why Hitler spared the Brits at Dunkirk, and why Merkel things backwards inbred savages from Arabia can integrate.

There's a reason we took all their engineers.

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>>127810343
Pay close attention to what the Rothschild said in this quote

https://youtu.be/Wk7F3OYhp4Q

>>127805154
Official reasons for wars are always bullshit, big surprise

>>127805154
>why did those same powers give Poland to the USSR at the end of the war?
Because the Americans of the 1940s thought Stalin was a good boy who dinndu nuffin and could be integrated into the world system, and Britain and France were too weak to disagree.

>>127810638
Except there's testimony from literally every world leader speaking of how horrible, backwards, antiwestern, antichristian, the bolshevik regime was.

The fact of the matter is we couldn't defeat Germany (easily) and we needed to sacrifice tens of millions of Russian men.

>>127810168
helping them*
>>127810434
Merkel thinks*

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>>127810027
>>127810343
>>127810587
Notice how (((Churchill))) openly stated he was a Zionist.

Are you connecting the dots, OP?

They didn't do anything to save poland. If they invaded germany from the west in force, the war might have been over in a month. 100 divisions vs 20

>>127808392
is there a key

>>127805653
That logic would work if not for the fact that USSR attacked us 17 days after Germany.

>>127811200
damn. i forgot.

Yellow/Tan = Japanese Territory/Vassals

Dark Grey/ Lt Grey = German possessions/
puppet states

Purple is British Empire in exile

Lt Blue/ Dark Blue = US / US occupied

Red = Remnant Soviet Union

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>>127810987
They couldn't just invade Germany in force, they were afraid/paralyzed because they knew what WWI turned into. It was much easier to sit along the Maginot Line. You have to remember they expected this war to be just like WWI, most of their tactics had been planned according to that doctrine. The Maginot Line defense was actually really well perceived...it was just good initiative, bad execution, as the Germans just simply passed the bulk of their defenses.

Technically speaking Poland became a sovereign state once again after the defeat of Germany.

Sure you can say it was a puppet state of the USSR but it still had borders, a flag, an army, territorial integrity and so on. Which it did not have under Nazi German rule.

>>127812278
I know hindsight is 20-20, but they did have the men. You're right they were paralyzed by politicians and by the tactics and strategy of the old guard of military commanders.

But it could have been done with the right leadership

>>127812346
it was a state

not so much sovereign

>>127805154
The entire purpose of WW2 was the creation of Israel.

>>127812055
Give us some more of your opinions polack. Who was the lesser of two evils in 2017 to the Polish people?

>>127812055
The UK only offered to defend against the nazis, not the commies. You got bamboozled.

>>127812806
>technically

In international law, outright aggression (seizing the territory of another sovereign state) is a very serious matter. Other violations of sovereignty that do not involve actually destroying other nations and adding their territory to your own are taken much less seriously no matter how unpleasant.

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It was about weakening Germany, not saving Poland.

Britain didn't give a fuck about us, they just wanted an excuse to kick Germany in the dick and they didn't feel like having Germans so close to the channel.

However what should be mentioned is people like Patton wanted to continue the war and kick the shit out of USSR and save Poland, but of course he got into an (((accident))).

>>127808804
>Britain wanted to control all of Europe
Quite literally the opposite, the doctrine of the UK has always been to stop a single entity ruling Europe and for each nation to be independent you complete and utter retard. After the fall of Napoleon (during his exile to St Helena) we could very well have steamrolled right through Europe and seized it, commanded it, controlled it. We did not, we have never once made a play to rule Europe, despite having the man power (from overseas territories), the navy and the technology to do so.

Not once... Now go to bed you fucktarded Cuckbeq cunt. Your French ancestors did rape Europe though, harmed it badly, along with the Germans.

>>127805653
How (((convenient)))

>>127813572
It's also convenient that America sucked Stalin's big slavic cock. Isn't it?

>>127813189
Sources?

>>127813566
>England tries to conquer the European continent in the 100 years war
>"If we can't have it no one can!"

>>127813478
Well it was all for naught wasn't it? You're being ruled by Merkel right now, slurp up that monopoly money and be sure to take in your quota like a good little fuccboi.
>>127813897
>England and France fighting over English and French land between English and French kings.
>This equates to invading and occupying all of Europe

>Ameriplywoodhouse education

Go to sleep.

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>>127805154
it was obviously an excuse to obliterate the german nation

>>127814046
And we'll need to do it again, and again and again and again and again until they fucking learn to behave themselves and act normal, like normal people. Fucking control freak scat lovers.

>>127814046
That is the saddest thing I have seen in a long time.

This they call progress.

>>127813478
Based fucking Polack this shit right here is why 4clan reigns supreme. Immediate responses from countries around the world. Sharing viewpoints and questioning in another',s history. This is the most multi cultural board on the net

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>>127814196
yep

>>127813084
Honestly? We were fucked by EVERYONE, germans and russkies attacked us, brits and frenchies decided to screw us over... hell at least germans and russians wanted to exterminate us only... which is fair as we were at each others throats for centuries. Anglos made Poland pay for polish pilots using planes when they helped to save brits asses and then deny em all from being part of victory parade... and yeah there was this whole deal of "yea we british cracked enigma and ended the war years before it would normally", when in realisty poles did years before and just handed all documents to brits... but since we were behind iron curtain we could not really complain about it when they boasted it.
so yeah tl;dr everyone fucked us over and now we are drinking beer and looking how they are all fucked by rapefugees... karma is a bitch.

>>127808392
>>127812100
>Philippines still in US
>surrounded by the Japanese Empire

wat

>>127814754
Do you know what the funniest part is? You're Germany's cuck slave and you're going to take in 700,000 migrants by force.

Even funnier is your sad attempt to distort history, your pilots were granted citizenship in this country, I know because I'm the grandson of one of them. So save your fucking lies you gopnick cuck, you're a failure that is too poor to leave Poland, if you could afford it you would have joined the 3 million other Poles. Oh and about Enigma code?

Nah it wasn't Poles that solved it and handed over documents, it was a group of Brits along with German POW's and a faggot that built a computer to solve it because he was too lazy to solve it in his head.

Suck it up buttercup.

>>127814382
whoa

>>127805154
To contain Germany. The UK and France needed to stop German expansionism eventually and Poland was where they made their stand. Poland itself wasn't important, it just happened to be where Britain and France drew the line.

If UK and FR at least went to save Poland, I could
say they were moral and heroic, but it was only chess moves to limit the power of Germany.

Poor poles. Between nazis and commies, and no one decided to really help them. And now they are trying to push muslism there, to fuck them again. Resist!

>>127815128
>You're Germany's cuck slave and you're going to take in 700,000 migrants by force.
More like germany are our cucks. We are more important to them as buisness partners than russia, Macron tried sanctioning us but Merkele stopped him as it would mean big financiall loss to her... and shee needs all the money to give out to rapefugees. Also we will take shit, we already said any sanctions are better tham rapefugees. And if they actually use force... well EU will die day they will do.

>>127815128
>Nah it wasn't Poles that solved it and handed over documents, it was a group of Brits along with German POW's and a faggot that built a computer to solve it because he was too lazy to solve it in his head.
Only thing true that Turing was a faggot.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/15/polish-codebreakers-cracked-enigma-before-alan-turing/

>>127815128

Nice divide and conquer tactic there.

>>127814998
>Australia not under British control
>Japanese forces probably decided to take it despite the gorilla warfare

My Grandfather fought in WWII in Hungary for the Germans. When it was over all German-Hungarians were told to leave Hungary by gun point. Only full Hungarians were made to stay in Hungary under the rule of USSR . My Grandparents were lucky in the end and got to live in Germany.

>>127815649

Media keep pushing the faggot meme, genius faggot meme

>>127810587
wasn't there around 200,000 suicides in a year in Germany before Hitler came to power?

>>127809096
>>ask for 90%+ german Danzig back
Their word was worthless as illustrated during the treaty of Munich.
>We just want to annex German lands, this is our last territorial demand
>Proceeds to annex the rest of Czechoslovakia followed by Memel and then demands Danzig

>>127808392
How the hell did Germany conquer Britain?

>>127805154
>Britain and France declared war against Germany in 1939 to ensure the sovereignty/independence of a Polish state

Kek. They declared war against Germany because Germany has proven itself to be ruled by madmen who lack integrity to make an agreement and stick by it and have clear intentions to replay WWI, so France had to defend itself while it still had at least one ally on the continent remaining, and Britain had to support it unless Britain wanted to remain alone with those madmen.

>those same powers

Kek. Britain, never mind France, ended WWII as little more than US protectorates, incapable of indendent politics. Britain de-facto surrendered its empire as far back as 1941 with signing of the Atlantic Charter. Churchill in fact tried to raise the question of immediate war with USSR, but had no power to push the idea.

I understand it is anathema to /pol/tards, but before asking stupid questions, how about learning the most basic of basic facts?

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>>127805154
Because pic related

>>127808496
World War 1 and World War 2 were both started by anti-germans for extremely fucking retarded reasons. Like so retarded that we owe it to humanity to eventually go back in time and insure the rest of the Europe agreed with Germany so the instigator for WW1 never occurs.

It is M I N D B O G G L I N G how retarded the rest of the Europe was after the assassination of Franz Ferdinand and how Germany was somehow the bad guy or otherwise had unreasonable demands.

Fucking M I N D B O G G L I N G. It takes a down syndrome toddler to come up with judgement as fucking flawed as the mindset of europeans outside of germany at that time.

>>127813779
You're the ones who made a big sword for Stalin before Churchill polished his boots with his tongue. It should have been Anglos on that train, death to traitors before the enemy.

>>127821549
>germanic dinduing intensifies

>>127808392

Literally who?

>>127814382
Is this in Paris near Jardin des tuileries ?

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>>127814382
How it looks today

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>>127822934
>>127814382
Oh sh-

>>127823328
kek exactly

>>127805154
Are we talking the Kaliningrad oblast? Was born there so I know a bit about it. This area has many strategic advantages, including Sovetsk (former Tilsit), access to Europe, and the port of all ports. Russia was fine with receiving just this small land for war compensation, as it originally belonged to East Prussia... Which was part of Germany's empire.

If this was not what you meant, sorry.

>>127808496
Everybody does, not many know Germany declared war on the USA.

Das rite
Hitler a good boy he dindu nuffinz
Jus tryna put his reichs back on dem trackz
Goin to church every sundayy

>>127826848
Da jews keep da aryan man down
We wuz Kaizers and shiet

>>127809502
WE

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>>127812055
Building a land bridge between Germany proper and Prussia was necessary for German economic growth and Brits know this. They promised Poland support inorder not to give in to German demands.

Brits never gave a shit about Poland. It was all about a dying Empire trying to fuck with its continental economic competition.

>>127814036
Merkel isnt representing german interests though.

>>127815128
>t. butthurt anglo
Day of the toothbrush can't come to soon.

>>127809502
The US provoked Pearl Harbor. We blockaded the Japanese trade ports which put Japan and a stand-still with their war with China. Japan knew that if they just bombed the ships a massive fleet would come in from Hawaii. So they attacked them both at once.

Hitler really never should've allied with Japan though. Germany was on good relations with China and Japan just brought them more enemies.

>>127805154
The poles were retarded and got (((anglo'd))) with the treaty.
Should have read the document before acting tough.

>>127805154
To keep Germany as a small and econimcally handable vasalle state. We tried to get back our land. If somebody would take a fifth of your land - would you try to get it back? After WWI we had to pay incredible reperations to France and Britain. They sent the colonized Algierian soldiers to rip nearly everything eatable from the fields and to take everything else. We fought in WWII in the first for our land, finally for a "Groß Germanien", "Great Germany" - a united Reich under a strong German leadership with the Capital in Berlin. The Anglo system copy without a Queen but a Leader.

>France and Britain actually caring about treaties with lesser nations