I see people like Sargon and others trying to label themselves as "true liberals", while not supporting guys like Jeremy Corbyn or Bernie Sanders (left wing) and choosing instead to support guys like Trump (fairly right wing). Is being liberal actually different from being left wing, or is this bullshit?
>>127750087
>Is being liberal actually different from being left wing
>>127750430
I don't get it either. That's why I'm asking.
Of course there is a difference between left wing and liberalism. Real (captitalistic) Liberalism is infact part of the right wing. What you see as the left are more socialists with some liberal elements
>>127750087
Americans use "liberal" as a synonym for "socialist". In reality, classical liberals were closer to modern libertarians.
Sargon, however, is a just a socialist cuck who happens to hate feminism.
>>127750087
corbyn will fucking ruin your country. Nobody should support him
>>127750087
They are correct. Progressives and leftists are not Liberals (they are commie scum)
Liberals are more like libertarians without the dumb ideas on who builds roads or conservative party without the religion and ultra classiest attitudes
You are obviously new
>>127752370
Oh God, Im not dumb enough to vote for him. He thinks Castro was a swell guy.
>>127750087
actual liberalism = what americans call libertarianism
it's in the purple zone of the political compass
The triumph of liberalism has been so complete that it's practically meaningless today. The entire political spectrum is liberal.
>>127750087
Actual liberalism is being for both economic and individual freedom. Socialists are by definition enemies of economic freedom.
>>127750087
And also, left and right wing is a retarded false dichotomy.
For example, there's a party in Poland, that is socially very conservative, and economically very socialist. And they're being called "far right", even though their economic policy (which is arguably more important) is completely socialist.
It is confusing. A classical liberal would support freedom of speech. A modern liberal would support hate speech laws. The term liberal, in my opinion, should not be used for modern liberals and they should be called progressives.