NASA'S MISSION TO 'TOUCH THE SUN': SCIENTISTS

>>127711572
Always remember to archive clickbait blogs.

https://archive.is/nGinF <- newsweek.com article

>>127711572
sounds like a good idea desu

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this again

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backflip in (((space)))

>>127711572
It's not a problem if they land during the night, retard.

>>127711572
>NASA literally just sending money into the sun now

When are we going to shut this organization down?

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Bush SR at nasa

>>127711572

You can't touch a hologram. NASA are a bunch of fucking idiots.

>>127712144
My theory is they have much more advanced space capability and don't want to tell the public yet

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>>127712334
hopefully there is more to it than what they show, but i don't have high hopes.

>>127711572
you don't want to learn more about the biggest source of energy in the solar system?

>>127711701
you can clearly see his pinky finger catches his pocket...

>>127711592
>https://archive.is/nGinF
thanks norway anon

>>127711701
>Sticks his pinky in his pocket to pull him back into frame.
What's the problem?

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>>127712493
What is the guy in the back grabbing at then?

>>127712437
yet we depend on jurassic oils and gas because we cannot let go the money that energy generates

we could had endless energy and for free

>>127711572
>touch the sun
The one LIFESOURCE for our entire planet's existence.
and the supposed scientists go..........
meh, what could go wrong

Am I the only one who sees that this is an extremely bad idea

>>127711572
The biggest threat to astronauts while traveling in space is the radiation exposure. If NASA can find a way to minimize that exposure without the need for an extremely heavy lead coated space shuttle then they'll be that much closer to a Mars mission.

Learn some shit before you complain about muh tax dollars. Especially when NASA gets so little already. I'd cut all of the arts budget and fund NASA more.

>>127712609
Your mom's pussy

>>127712609
I even know why is everyone faking it.

>>127712713
News flash: Solar Panels are created using this Jurassic oil.

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Hmm

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>>127711572
Ah yes, classic clickbait meme article title

>Actual NASA mission
Collect particle emission samples from ejected corona material or something that actually makes sense

>LE SCIENCE TITLE
LITERALLY TOUCH THE SUN WITH A HAND XD

Media as for-profit organizations were a mistake

>>127713150
Jewrnalism should be illegal and all jewrnalist need to be gassed.

>>127712919
You have any idea how large the Sun is, anon?

>>127712919
Do you even realize how little that ship would do?
The sun would incinerate the entire ship before it even reaches the surface. It happens all the time with other objects in space. We could probably fire all our nuclear waste and it wouldn't make a single difference to us. The sun is fucking huge.

>>127712919
Yeah it might go out durrr

>>127713102
better to use oil as a stepping stone to cleaner energy than just waste it all

This is just virtue signalling: government edition. I'd rather all of NASA be reprioritized to removing fossil fuels from all aspects of industry. Not because climate change is real, but it would finally shut up the leftists. Globalists would no longer get to feel like they are morally superior because muh environment.

>>127713252
do you have any idea how iron poisons the hydrogen- helium reactions in stars

a) the public is being lied to about the true nature and parameters of the sun, meaning we know jack shit about it.
b) NASA literally does not give a shit about the money and are investing in such stupid ideas because they are bored and have nothing else to do.

Only 2 options. Where are you know NASA defenders? Hur dur lets just fly a sat to the suns atmosphere I wonder what will happen??

>>127711572

The Sun, and stars in general, are a source of energy that will last billions of years.

Understanding how they work will make it easier to expand the Fourth Reich into space

>>127711572
More money laundering

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>>127712919
>burger education

>>127713295
Solar panels are inefficient and only work on sunny days. We have both and we should keep using oil until solar tech becomes good enough to warrent replacing. Also because of the prime usage issue, moving to solar requires that we have batteries for storage. Those batteries are made of shit that's even worse on the environment to mine than oil.

tl;dr no matter what some shit is gonna get fucked and environmentalist will never be happy.

Wind energy kills birds
Water energy kills fish
Geothermal releases muh gasses

Daily reminder that environmentalist have the end goal of people living in huts without fire.

>>127713102
Fuck solar, fuck oil, fuck coal, and fuck wind

Every form of large scale energy generation not named Nuclear or Hydro is a scam and everyone who supports them should be taken out back and shot.

>>127712919
you're right anon

we should start a petition and meme war to stop this

someone doxx NASA

can we not fuck up the sun, we fuck up everything else.

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>>127711572
>Just burn my taxes up

>>127713385
You mean like the iron core forming at the center? There isn't enough iron on earth to make a difference.

>>127712609
That's compression artifacting.

>>127713571
Ontarian detected

>>127713581
Looks like aliens use it as a gas station anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR7NIwY5y1A

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If you dont touch the sun, how will you know its actually there?

>>127712004
Underrated

DRUMPF

>>127713571
I agree on nuclear but environmentalist will just cry muh Chernobyl. This is why all of the reactors are decades old and ironically dangerous. Because nobody can get a permit to build a new one that is more safe.

>>127711572
nasa and the space program is the most ingenious money sink man has thought of
>give us your money to spend on "projects" that never actually have a final product or proof at all

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>>127713612
nope

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>believing NASA will tell you anything of value
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/122271758

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Yeah why would we ever want to investigate the solar systems largest source of energy, and naturally occurring NUCLEAR FUCKING FUSION

NASA a best government organization

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>>127712240
>>127712433
>>127712609
>>127713918
>snownigger intellectuals don't know about stream glitches
Back to >>>/x/, underage re-d-d-itor
sage

>>127711701
Are you retarded? He hooked his pinky into the guy's pocket and pulled him in.

MARS DIRECT

FFS

MARS
DIRECT

ENOUGH OF THIS RUBBISH

>>127711592
Thanks m8, ill do it more often now,

>>127714347
Codeword is wires if you are to dense to understand what you are seeing

>>127714617
i.e. yes, you're retarded

>>127714617
Cognitive dissonance is a thing.They will never admit to everything space being visibly faked regardless the evidence presented.

>>127714353
see
>>127712930

>>127712144

wot the fuk

>>127714704
It's a hard pill to swallow that scifi from Hollywood isn't accurate. Muh space dreams

>>127714734
A FUCKING MEME

READ ZUBRIN

>>127714806
Oh its very real.Whats out there waiting for us is why everything is fake for the remaining time before everyone is so dumb noone ever will even believe that there is space out there and the earth is not flat under a glass dome......

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>>127711572

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>literally setting the controls for the heart of the sun

>>127713774
Good movie fuck the tweest haters

Fuck NASA

>>127712004
Kek

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>>127711646
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>>127712437
>>127712713
>>127713571
>>127714093
>>>>>Liberals

>>127713842

We should switch to thorium-based nuclear energy.

>>127713004
Why are they faking it then? And how do you know this?

>>127712433
Astronauts are just such a meme job, they cant be real. They all day seem to be looking happy feel good, tweeting all day, sorta like the Truman Show. The ISS is a show to hide the real one.

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>>127714157
Reddit is quite blue pilled when it comes to NASA. Some of the cattle here on pol have a hard time accepting they are indoctrinated.

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>>127713343
>>127711572
You guys are tony brained pieces of shit who i would bet watch all the mark dice videos as they release.

The technology needed to withstand the temp, radiation, pressure will need to developed furtyer and worked on. If you cant understand how such technology could be integrated in industrial jobs and else where, then there is no hope for your tiny brains.

Some of the worlds greatest minds cresting technology to do the impossible and you are too stupid, too short sighted, too partisan to underetand how these things cross over into society.

Amd when your fat stupid ass buys the new Reddit approved, iPhone 13 for $9000, it'll constructed with some new fused material thats ultra lightweight. Sratch resistant against metal. Truly air tight water resistant. Fire resistant, heat resistant crack resistant.

It wont click in your tiny brains that the technology was built through "stupid" billion dollar missions to the sun.

And who knows how our armies implements nasa created technology. Spacex is already filled with nasa employees btw.

I wont even go into how a trip to the fucking sun translates in terms of knowledge and know how for FUTURE manned spsce travel against the cosmos harsh conditions.

I wont even get into what we may learn from the sun tuat we didn't know, that could potentially warn us of some danger.

Not to mention all the theories science has about the sun that can be confirmed\busted with a single trip.

The issue is that your pea sized brains arent equipped for this level of inquiry. Stick to your animes and blacked posting retards

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>>127711572
I'd rather they shoot my tax money into the sun than give it to niggers and single moms.

This fucking board full of absolute retards, fuck.
50% /pol/, 50% /x/, 100% useless

>>127713343
NASA is space you mong
Envirocuckery is for other organizations to do

>>127711572
still a better way to spend tax money than bombing 7 countries

>>127715339
Because getting asteroided back to the stone age by aliens is not something you win elections with.
I know this because you cant name anything else thats a solid answer for why did everything space related stopped after the Moon-landing.If you can,please tell me because i want to know.

>>127715830
Nothing fucking stopped, we have sent out countless probes and satellites and even a few rovers.
What the fuck was supposed to happen?
Moon landings happened and after the 2nd one public interest dropped extremely hard. It also fulfilled it's goal of showing superiority over the Russians. Apart from that you gain nothing from landing on the moon.
Space shuttles were a futuristic, badly engineered pipe dream, nobody really needs them.
Setting foot on Mars is 10 times harder than the moon landing, so it will take some time.

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>>127713612

>That's compression artifacting.


But offcourse the guy literally becomes transparent

>>127715830
What kind of aliums?

>>127715567
what did you expect after the_donald became such a big thing?

>>127716083
>Setting foot on Mars is 10 times harder than the moon landing
no it isn't; two saturn v-sized craft launched over an interval of two launch windows will be a complete mars mission

>>127716083
You so sure about that,good for you.Keep believing everything is a "stream artifact".

>>127713774
Kaneda, what do you see?

>>127716226
The type that solved evolutionary pressure by eliminating every competition.

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>>127716083
German cuck think we walked on the moon

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>hurr why are we flying money into the sun

Because it's getting harder and harder to manage the heat from air friction when firing projectiles or launching rockets at high speed, and we need to come up with a better way to handle it

why is /pol/ anti-science even when it is cool shit that could help us blow those dog-killers in China better

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>>127716083

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>>127711572

bump for german astronaut

>>127713150
This

>>127716412
>no it isn't; two saturn v-sized craft launched over an interval of two launch windows will be a complete mars mission

>implying current rockets have the ability to launch to Mars and still have enough fuel to get back home

The gravity on mars is basically the same as Earth. It's not like leaving the Moon, which was easy because of how small it is

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>>127711572
>TAX PAYER MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON FUCKING RETARDED SHIT
Now think about it for a minute.
If they succeed, you could put all the niggers and muslims into a cargo space-ship and send them directly to the sun.

Whatever helps us get the expanse started faster.

>>127711572
>The star will gorge itself on clay

>>127716722
>the gravity on mars is basically the same as Earth
burger education

>>127716729
wtf poland those are just children. have a heart

>>127711572

> be OP
> be anti-science

>>127716412
>what is life support
>what is supplies
>what are medical emergencies
>what are psychological consequences of prolonged spaceflight
>what is the need for better radiation protection

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>>127716816
Ops, sorry!

>>127716729
Why would you send a spaceship full of niggers to the Sun?Do you hate the Sun or something?

>>127716722
>what is in-situ resource utilization
the ignorant should not pretend to be authorities

>>127716418
I didn't even mention the NASA streams.
Actually, your reply tells me everything I need to know.
You asked a question, you've got a genuine answer and you reply with utter shit, with another goalpost, another thing you can clam to to make you think you are right.

>>127711572
No, you're just too stupid to understand anything relating to space exploration. Furthermore, no one owes you an explanation. You're still going to pay your taxes. You have no credibility. You're just another cuck who says one thing, but does what he's told.
Kill yourself.

>>127716936
>radiation shielding
They could just use the same stuff they used on the Moon landing to penetrate the allen belts

>>127713571

Tbf, I used to think this way, but wind power is a lot better than I expected it to be. I think it could even be viable without government subsidies.

>>127716786
I mean that is true though. The gravity on Mars is more similar to earth's gravity than it is to the moon's gravity.

>>127716936
>what is life support
>what is supplies
>what are medical emergencies
not problems
>what are psychological consequences of prolonged spaceflight
better than ye olde years-long scurvy-ridden famine-suffering voyages at sea
>what is the need for better radiation protection
a bad meme, given that the increased cancer risk for two 6-month transits is not particularly significant

read The Case For Mars or shut up

>>127717091
>more similar to earth's gravity than it is to the moon's gravity.
Moon 0.16 ɡ
Mars 0.3 g
Earth 1g

>>127717091

http://www.space.com/16871-how-big-is-mars.html

"Gravity on Mars is 38 percent of Earth's gravity, so a 100-pound person on Earth would weigh 38 pounds on Mars. Mars is home to both the highest mountain and the deepest, longest valley in the solar system"

>>127717021
So you trying to tell me that there is nothing to do in space,just send sattelites and rovers, there is no place for a space station,nothing.
Thinking they would only send small objects to space has anything to do with being stealthy is only me stupid ass.

>>127717091
at .38 g it's still closer to the moon's, but it's all irrelevant because your ascent vehicle was sent up years ago and has quietly refuelled itself using in-situ resource utilization; after you land in your descent vehicle, you have the option of hopping into the descent vehicle and taking off at the next transfer window

>>127711572

I don't give a shit was NASA does with my $25 they get from me a year, as long as it does not go to a nigger's obama phone or government cheese.

>>127717091

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitation_of_the_Moon

"The acceleration due to gravity on the surface of the Moon is about 1.625 m/s2, about 16.6% that on Earth's surface or 0.16 ɡ. Over the entire surface, the variation in gravitational acceleration is about 0.0253 m/s2 (1.6% of the acceleration due to gravity)."

So no, Mars's gravity is closer to the moon's than earth's

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>>127717291
Huh, I suspected I was retarded... thanks for confirming.

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>>127713918
bruh

I was skeptical, but this convinced me. Looks like every major conspiracy theory is real.

>>127717033
there's no shielding we are capable of making that is totally effective, and it's downright ineffective past certain tolerances.

>>127717504

Any time bro ;)

>>127717160
Not problems? How can they not be problems? Logistics aren't problems? What the fuck?

Voyages at sea are similar but not the same to spaceflight. Also, your crew will be extremely small which makes matters worse.

You will want better radiation protection regardless of how insignificant you seem to think it is.

'IVE READ ONE BOOK THAT PROVES MY POINTS RIGHT DURRRRRRRRRRR'

If this kind of shit doesn't get you going then you're not white.

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>>127713918
I understand about the green screen tech, and all that shit, the zero g plan, harnesses, but how do they do the floating microphone?

>>127717348
Honestly, what would you need a (huge) space station for right now, we have the ISS for science experiments.
Nobody can do it economically, the US would have to divert huge parts of their military budget to do this. It would take decades and it would be for nothing.
When asteroid mining starts up we will start seeing small assembly factories in space, sure, but until then we don't need it.

>>127713918

I see nothing but compression glitches here. Nothing that looks like greenscreen problems

>>127717580
Somehow the moonwalking atronauts lived to old age.So that should be enough shouldnt it.

>>127711572
Fuck NASA. Honestly.

All they ever do is whine about minorities and shit, wasting time and money "honoring" the precious nigger woman who solved every math equation in the world while she was getting coffee for some evil whiteys.

NASA is just a virtue-signaling machine for bitches who think they can "do science" because "womyn power xD"

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>>127713918
>Hand over arm, arm over chest distortion
>Blames green screen even though the background is not in the area
>Implying the vessel interior would be difficult to fabricate and require a green screen

Underage reported

>>127712038
There's a lot of "space junk" in orbit around Earth. Probably what that was

>>127717815
>thinks ISS is in space
Anon,the ISS is not in space.The ISS is in LEO,fyi.
Further FYI, there are only 24 astronauts that visited actual space and only a marginal number of sattelites and probes.
You trying to tell me we dont need a space station because the ISS is the perfect place to study space,because its not even in space.
I find that illogical, at best.

>>127717633
>Logistics aren't problems?
Life support is accounted for in excess, food is accounted for in excess, and all four crew members (who should be gifted engineers first and foremost) are trained in rendering first aid.

>Voyages at sea are similar but not the same to spaceflight.
Yeah voyages were a lot more gruelling than staying in a landing vehicle with artificial gravity, comfort, constant (albeit delayed) contact with home, entertainment, and privacy.

>'IVE READ ONE BOOK THAT PROVES MY POINTS RIGHT DURRRRRRRRRRR'
It's a full-blown mission plan, the only one that NASA deemed credible to reach Mars (although they modified it such that the stay on the surface is very short).

>>127717633
also,

>You will want better radiation protection regardless of how insignificant you seem to think it is.
Uh oh, better stay on Earth then, until your pet technology is created.

>>127718078
'Space' doesn't happen at an arbitrary point above the atmosphere. We are in 'space', too.
I get your point though and it is time for me to look up the experiments they can do on there and if you would need something further out for certain experiments.

>>127716083
>summer vacation starting

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>>127711572
>Alright folks we touched the sun! Mission success! What did we find out?
>The sun is hot sir.

And just another thing to add to the list of reasons of why we never make it off this rock. Just give all this shit to Elon Musk we honestly have a better shot with him.

>>127711592
you're a cool guy, norwanon

>>127715415
I could believe that. It's very possible, and most likely truthful, that technology is far beyond what we comprehend it to be. I mean, there's an entire society of billionaires now. People with unfathomable amounts of money, existing at the highest rings of society, all across the globe, in constant communication with each other. They have more incommon with each other than those of their homeland. It would only make sense.

>>127711572
>LETS JUST SEND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THE SUN, LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS

Don't you just hate how they pile Benjamins into a rocket and fire it off? Damned wasteful, they should be leaving the cash here on earth

>>127718221
I'm aware that I'm getting blasted with radiation all the time, if I eat this banana I will get a huge dose as opposed to background radiation.
It's more about avoiding unnecessary exposure.

>>127718284
Ever wonder why your country has the 8th highest suicide rate? I know why.

>>127712437
We don't send a lot of missions past the moon anymore because of the fuel costs involved, but spending the most fuel in aerospace history to cancel the probe's orbital velocity is fine.
Fucking dodgy, isn't it?

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>>127715331
im a sucker for space programs

>>127718412
If you think that a lot of exceptional men wouldn't happily trade a marginal increase of the risk of cancer for the glory of being among the first to step on Mars, you're silly.

Radiation in Mars transit is a meme. You're not going to be exposed to it for years, only about 139 days there and back again.

>>127718244
Yet the definition of LEO is from the surface of the Earth up to 2000km, and ISS is @~400km.
Exosphere is also a thing.

>>127712609
>transparent feet
So the safety belts in botes are also shopped in, you retard? Real life photoshop, rite?

>>127715456
Literally all the stuff you mentioned is shitty stuff. I hate consumerism and I hate iPhones. I don't want my fucking taxes to go towards that cuck of a company. I also don't want to fund the military industrial complex under the guise of "dude, space"

Also there will never be trips into the cosmos. No faster than light tech = no cosmos. Your stupid brainwashed brain cant let go of your star wars fantasies even though they will NEVER occur. How about we focus on Earth and mot goddamn fairy tales for once? Also I fully comprehend all of technology, it isn't hard to do. This is part of your programming, that tech and science is too hard for anyone to understand without a (((degree))) in 8 different fields. Kys.

>>127715595
NASA is fully cucked they literally have an entire segment of the company geared towards climate change because "the science is settled"

>>127715595
>>127718776
https://climate.nasa.gov/
NASA has a hard on for this shit. Fuck off.

>>127713571
What about geothermal or tidal?

>>127713385
>Sun is million times larger than spacecraft
>THE IRON IN THE SPACECRAFT WILL POISON THE HYDROGEN FUSION
Daily reminder that these retards arguing against space exploration.

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>>127718412
Ever wonder why you cant stop sucking dicks? I know why.

>>127715595
Aerospace.
NASA runs the X-project, which has seen the first supersonic aircraft at level flight, SCRAM- and RAM-jets and nuclear-powered aviation.

>>127718650
You're right, you will find people that won't give a fuck about a slightly increased radiation exposure and exposure along the round trip isn't huge, I just don't think we are in an age of experimental-fighter-jet-pilot-daredevils who don't give a fuck about anything piloting our space craft anymore but rather scientists are doing it and they wouldn't want the risk.

>>127718707
Yeah, as I said, I get your point about it being in LEO, any talk on here just quickly leads into semantics and it just did because I've sloppily used the word 'space'.
Those numbers are arbitrarily chosen though, in reality it is more diffuse and the only thing I still don't know about is whether it is useful if you had a station up 'higher' for certain experiments.

>>127713385
Do you?
Show us the figures anon.

>>127711572
>sending money to the sun
what could possibly go wrong?

>>127712004
Reading /pol/ with cracked ribs is painful as fuck!

>>127714347
What are the other fingers grabbing? Hmmm

>>127719342
Tell me how do you study space without being actually in space, while claiming you study space.

>there are retards in here who seriously think the ISS is fake.

you can literally see it from Earth.

>inb4 it's a balloon

>>127712118
>I have no idea how an economy works, the post

>>127711572
>feeding a star your expensive ceramics

>>127719495
What does 'studying space' even mean? We have been studying space from earth for millennia.
Do you need, for example, a structure in the vacuum of space or do you just need to simulate the conditions on earth? I bet you can do a big majority of things on this planet.

>>127711572
I would rather spend money on space exploration and tech, than on defending Germany's interests while they give their stuff to invaders. Pay for all your crap yourself from now on Germany, we're going to the F'n Sun!!!

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Reminder that NASA is the public front for space travel.

Reminder that black projects have advanced massively over the past 60 year.

>>127717830
3 days < 3 years.

>>127712038

They are not faking it you can get a good telescope and see some of it out away from city lights.

They did edit the shit out of video and images in the beginning. Its real though.

>>127711572
>tfw you will never literally shovel billions of dollars into the sun

feels poor man

>>127712322
You guys are pathetic.

>>127712144
I KNEW ITTTTTTTTTTTTT ALL ALONGGG

>>127713904

You can buy a laser, shine it at a mirror left on the moon and measure the returning radiation. If that doesn't settle it for you, nothing will.

>SCIENTISTS TO MAKE LIVE ANNOUNCEMENT

MORE NEWS AT ELEVEN

WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE FOUND A WATER MOLECULE IN ANOTHER RANDOM ASTEROID

>>127719705
I would like to know how do you study space radiation and how to defend against it while under the magnetic shielding of the planet,for example.There is no logic in it.

>>127720120
People are conspiracy theorists because of a combination of stupidity and ignorance. Unfortunately the former precludes rectifying the latter.

You'd think that because there's more information out there on how the world works there'd be less conspiracy theorists spouting off their batshit theories, but nope. Stupid people can't not be ignorant, and stupid ignorant people become conspiracy theorists.

All the internet has done has allowed them to better disseminate their conspiracy theories to other stupid ignorant people so that the internet has become a vehicle for ignorance, not knowledge, because the people who use it don't deserve it.

Thus are all the great works of great men undone.

>>127711572
she has a nice pair of suns

>>127712144
Digits confirm space cover up. Why did they show it though? Do they just not care?

>>127712144
30 seconds on google
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iginxrFn3jg

>>127720191
Most of our probes that have been sent out have measured radiation throughout the whole solar system, even the Voyager probes measured radiation, so we have at least an overview of how it is distributed in the solar system without having had to set a foot into space.
If you have that data you can simulate it on earth and develop shielding there.
I fail to see how that is the problem.

>>127720314

Yeah, one of the great problems we have is that the effort required to create bullshit is far less than the effort to refute it.

Another huge problem is that if I tell you: look this new evidence suggests mars is slightly smaller than we thought, you'll go "oh cool." But if I show you information that contradicts a core belief, generally people become hostile and double-down on their beliefs.

>>127720358
Yeah, but I wouldn't want to orbit her.

>>127713918
>literally does not understand how video compression works
wtf i hate nasa now

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>>127711572
space deniers are worse people than niggers, jews & arabs.

Inb4 they name it Icarus

>>127711572
WE NEED 80 BILLION GOY BUCKS TO GO TO THE SUN BUT DON'T WORRY IT'S FOR (((((((SCIENCE))))))))!

DON'T FORGET TO DRINK YOUR TAP WATER AND HERE'S OUR ISS ACTORS, STAY WOKE, SENPAI!

>>127721077
Hopefully, you're just pretending to be an idiot.

>>127720520
I get it that you can work with data from probes and simulate all the way,but how do you test it?You made a "space" station,that cant test actual stuff if it works in space or not.

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>>127712930
Isn't gold aluminum foil, duct tape and curtain rods good enough? It worked for the Appollo "astronauts"

>>127711572
Didn't Kim Jong already visit the sun during his NK space mission?

>>127721505
Of course at some point you have to test it live.
I think over the last decades we have started to be more cautious than adventurous in space travel and combined with extremely powerful computers and labs we will test stuff as much as possible before we use it.

By the way, I didn't want to say that the experiments on the ISS are the same kind of experiments you would need for space traveling in general.
A lot of experiments on the ISS are biology related and we are literally just starting to find out what this kind of environment does for organisms.

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>>127713387
But the sun is 93 million miles away. However would we get there?

>>127711572
NASA fucking sucks, they're horrible.

Rather than doing something productive like trying to put a permanent base on the moon they do this gay shit.

I'm glad their budget gets cut every year, I can't believe it is going to take private organizations to actually make any significant progress in space travel. Fuck NASA.

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>>127711572

Can someone explain this please?

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>>127711920
Holy fuq, they couldn't make that background look more fake even if they tried!

>>127722046
But they dont study what space does to organisms.They are not in space.They are under the magnetic shielding of the planet.
The only logical reason for the ISS being there where it is is to study the absence of gravity on organisms.Nothing else.
Sounds to me a lot of money just to study that.

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>>127716722
Earth escape velocity : 11.2km/s
Mars escape velocity : 5.0km/s

I think its possible. Consider that rockets have carried the massive space shuttle into space. That shows how much excess baggage they can carry.

A Mars landing and take off would require about 40% more fuel than just an Earth takeoff+land.

40% extra fuel weighs less than a spaceshuttle.

Plus we've got another 35 years tech level.

All we need now is a kike willing to part with 15 billion shekels for a handful of martian rocks. The best scientists and engineers can work miracles in unlocking new physics and rockets but some things are physically impossible.

>>127722564
All you need is not getting asteroided back to the stone age by aliens for leaving the planet.

>>127722402
I think you are technically right about it more being about the absence of gravity.
The thing is, you can't simulate not having gravity or lowering gravity significantly on Earth. We simply don't have that technology, you have to do it in orbit at least.
What if we find out it has some extremely useful on certain plants? I don't know. I sure as hell want to know though. How much do these experiments even cost? Maybe they are very cheap relative to other parts.

>>127719519
It's just an ordinary satellite.

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I nominate Patton "Orbiter" Oswalt for captain of this voyage. Who should be part of his crew?

> Amy "Small Barnyard Animal" Schumer
> Sarah "You're Being Ridiculous" Silverman
> Louis "Shut down twitter because some of my female writers are getting vocal about my affair / sexual assault on them but I'll blame it on me not spending enough time with my kids" CK

Any others?

>>127722564
>but some things are physically impossible.
I think science has much yet to learn , nothing is impossible , it just may kill us in the process.

>>127722564
You think one could start a kickstarter for filthy rich people so they could pride themselves with some space dust makeup or a mars stone necklace?

Maybe space X would be interested too? 15bn?

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>>127719479
H-how did you crack your ribs, crumpet-san?

>>127722284
>Ass-hurt burger on losing NASA

Take heart, burgers have got SpaceX, who are doing some next-gen space shit right now

>>127719493
Nothing?

You have to believe there are wires for that to show wires, for people that don't it just shows a guy mostly pissing but hooking his pinky to help a dude into frame.

>>127723061
Musk will just get rocks from Arizona and none of the rich people will notice the difference.

>>127721269
Hopefully the best slaves are the ones that don't demand their freedom.

>>127722795
Thats all and great,but consider this.
You have to pay for ISS.They want to name it a space station.Its not in space.
They want to build a freaking station where you can test only stuff related to gravity.Why wouldnt you top the number with 10% more and put it in space and you are suddenly capable of doing a very wide range of experiments,besides gravity.
Sure thing,lets just study gravity,who cares about actual space, its only 100 billion dollars.
This doesnt make sense.

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>>127720948
>give us billions more shekels to go to ((space)) goy, u don't need to know what's going on with that money, you wouldn't understand
Consider my intergalactic almonds active and primed

>>127713918
Hm must be just some coincidence that it happens to something that moves. Hm.

>>127723825
I don't know why the ISS was established and why it was placed specifically in that orbit in the first place.
Name something you could study with a station further out and is that worth it? Nothing comes to my mind but I would like to learn.
US military budget is like 600 billion annually.
Investing 100 billion into the very first low orbit station could have been worth it.
Besides, we have gotten technology out of supposedly wasted money before, I bet we have gotten something out of the ISS that was worth it or rather knowledge that will be worth it down the road.

>>127717740
>I understand about the green screen tech, and all that shit, the zero g plan, harnesses, but how do they do the floating microphone?
Wee little propellers...

>>127713252
I heard you can fit 10 football fields in the sun

>>127724401
Actually it's using the Nazi UFO anti grav generator.

>>127724438
Can't fit your Mom in the sun though.

>>127715063

The twist was gay.

If it stayed a hard sci-fi movie without the cheesy slasher flick tacked on at the end it would've been great.

Who needs a spooky bogeyman when space wants to kill you too, and it's far more effective at it.

>>127723061
the filthy rich don't need a kickstarter. They meetup all the time to try get each other to finance their projects.

Massive projects are used to control society when there's no wars to fight. e.g. the pyramids. But they are not the preferred way because it generates too much pride \ cohesion \ nationalism amongst the goys.

There's much more shekels to be made by splitting the goys into warring factions.
Right now all the kikes in the kike hierarchy are manoeuvring for the upcoming 3rd rothschild world war.

>15bn

Its my rough guess. I've seen estimates as low as 6bn and others as high as 1.5trn.
I can't see how it would over $100bn. Wtf is going to x10 the cost? I don't know. Anyone?

SpaceX's reusable and auto landing rockets are a good step forward for a Mars mission.

>>127712144
That's not a chroma key screen. Mythbusters used that all the time to measure speeds N sheeit

>>127711572

Just go at night, stupid.

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>>127719877
Remember that you have literally zero proof for the nonense you're spewing.

>>127722288

there not behind the sun, the sun is really fucking bright

those clouds are a mere miles thick at most, the sun is fucking YUUUUGE and puts out more energy than you can even fathom

how is this hard to grasp

>>127711701
I want you to look at that ladys necklace. how are you going to fake that? you might as well just say its all computer animated.

>>127711572
That's retarded shit when /yourguy/ wants to spend billions on a stupid fucking wall?

What we should be doing is putting that wall money into force field technology. Then we could secure our borders and go to the sun.

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75.47.241.114
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>>127714353
Mars direct was a legitimate scam. It's been scrapped.

>>127722360
Seriously, it's just a bunch of computers and space bags everywhere.

>>127719123
They work but what good is tidal without tides or geothermal without being near the edges of tectonic plates? Itd be fine to put cali on them but inland areas would likely be better off nuclear

>>127711572

you hair brained morons. It's obviously a test for new space travel tech / radiation shielding.

>>127712433
To simulate conditions in space, Russian and American astronauts practice their missions under water. The buoyant force provides near zero g conditions. You may be looking at a training video.

Also you're scientifically retarded, probably stupid in other areas of life as well. I'd recommend killing yourself to preserve the otherwise intelligent genes of the white race.

>>127725007
>doesnt know what classified information is

>>127726187
MAKE A VIDEO ON THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

>>127724372
The very first LEO station was MIR,not ISS.
Also, you can do all the experiments regarding biology in space - i mean in space,not under protection of the magnetosphere of Earth - test equipment shielding,human shielding,actual greenhouse is it possible and i can go on and on.Nothing of this can be studied on the ISS.Combine with the obvious signs of fake videos they release - becaues lets be honest,not everything is image artifact - and you have no actual logic behind the ISS.

>>127722288
>literally retarded
>waste of digits
Same flawed thinking as that "black snow/fake snow" bullshit not too long ago, there was even one where it subliminated in a pan on their stove "o mah gawd it's not all turnin to watah o lawdy lawd"

>>127723432
They form shape over a string. Just like you'd grab a wire.

>>127727599
> Of course everybody knows I'm right
> But it's all classified so...
> Hurr durr

>Going all that way to collect a sample of light

We have light here morans.

>>127725980
that would be fucking badass. like some ghost gate shit

>>127721922
That's not good enough for an extended mission; the Apollo mission only took a few days.

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>>127716547

Isn't this basically a test to see if their spacecraft material is durable enough to resist the temperatures of the fucking sun?

>>127728512
Yes, MIR was the first, you're right. It only cost a fraction of the ISS because it was much older technology which makes certain things like some of the modules of the ISS just not possible on there.

I don't understand the second sentiment. We had that point before that you could simulate almost all the conditions on Earth. Some experiments will be specific to LEO and some will be specific to actual outer space and maybe we will do them when we get a station up there.
Another reason why we don't have one there is that it requires way more logistics and more risk in case of an emergency. I think we just got too cautious.

Anyway, nice talking to you, it's dawning on me that I have to read up on all this stuff for the next debate, especially what the fuck they are actually studying up there.

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>>127730026
>what the fuck they are actually studying up there.
Hahaha

>>127711572
How is that it's always rednecks that don't understand why nasa is important..
Every day I hate this site more and more. Used to like it here. But jesus christ people are so fkn close-minded here it's fkn insane.

>>127730365
I wasn't implying that I didn't know at all or that I'm gonna start believing insane shit just because we had a talk.

nasa is fake as shit
#defundnasa

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>>127712004

>>127726370
retard

>>127730516
Nah you just keep digging what the fuck they are actually studying up there.Thats more than enough of a victory for us.You will only find doubt if you do so.

>>127729945
No

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>>127725586
>>127728524

Thanks for explaining. That makes total sense.

>>127711572
You are the stupid one. We have only theoretical understanding of how the sun works internally.

Solar cycles of severe intensity have the power to basically EMP the entire planet or worse. Solar decline has the ability to almost instantly cause another ice age for which the earth is now 150 thousand years overdue for.


We desperately need to learn more about what causes solar output increases and decreases so we might have a semblance of knowing when shtf is going to happen.

You are a fucking ignorant moron please hang yourself.

>>127722229
this is so retarded even bill nye wouldnt touch this

>>127730673
The bigger problem is that you see this as some kind of 'us' vs. 'them' thing.
You don't know the crazy shit I believe in that I can't prove. Doesn't mean I go around pretending to be this great enlightener about unknown information. This 'yeah man i'm gonna redpill you by just making you doubt' thing is ridiculous.
Either you are skeptic by nature or you aren't. I already am, this didn't change anything other than reminding me to read up on it so that next time I can argue more efficiently.

>>127730417
Can't let it get to you anon. Steel your mind.

>>127730864
>150 thousand years overdue for.
Dude,the last ice age ended like 12 thousand years ago.

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>>127730759

https://youtu.be/WwimocU0IIc?t=265

Footage if you guys could explain why this hotspot on the clouds is so fucking small, but the sun is huge and 93 million miles away?

>>127730928
You didnt look sceptic at all.Care to explain what you cant prove?

>>127721922
All of those astronauts not have vision and bone problems because of it.

>>127712004
O I am laffin

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>>127711572
>People will innevitably pretend that this is an "amazing accomplishment" and that it is totally worth $20B a year for useless shit like this and touching a giant rock in outer space

Democracy was a mistake.

>>127730864
>Lol implying even if we do understand how the sun works, we can stop it from fucking up our planet.
also, even if we do figure out when its going to happen, governments arent going to let the public know. I thought you knew this. Fag

>>127731003

fucking flat earth is real

>>127711572
Wtf the sun is made of lava, wouldnt it just burn up?

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>>127731215

>sun
>rock

>>127731003
Looks like a lens between the sun and the planet to me.Could be hole in the cloud layer and water reflecting it back.The video says its looking at the baltic see.

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>>127711572
>not realizing the sheer amount of UNTAPPED resources that can be used to help humanity by exploring space in ANY capacity is almost INFINITE

stay quiet you uneducated, inbred retard.

I'd volunteer to fly to the sun desu

>>127719479

What happened Mr. Duck?

>>127731064
I am very skeptic, just in another way than pop-conspiracy theorists would like to see themselves.

I can't prove who killed JFK and why for example, the official narrative is insufficient, it's a complex thing that when I step outside, I can easily see how it could have been a lot of parties organizing his killing.
I can't prove the Universe is a simulation as another example. In my mind, it's completely rational to assume it is, yet if you talk to certain people about it they would deem you insane. It also wouldn't actually change anything knowing it is.

>>127731424
I was talking about the meteor they landed on and paraded for the minute of fame they got for it you fatass

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Here is a video of a rocket hitting the dome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAcp3BFBYw4

Explain this you round earthers.

>>127711701
The spinning guy also stabilizes himself at the same time. You conspiracy fags are the worst.
> denying superior Anglo accomplishments
Disgusting

>>127731448
yeah but sending something that will just get burned up and probably not accomplish anything doesnt do much. If anything they should focus on the moons of Jupiter and Saturn

>>127712004
kek'd

The sun is just a big light in the sky..You cannot travel to it. Its in the Heavenly Sphere about 3000 miles away. 93,000,000 miles are you kidding me? What kind of jewish math invented that garbage?

>>127731555
I dont think those are at this point conspiracy theory.At least both are supported by logic.
I hoped you have something more crazy in your bag

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>>127712334
WE WUZ ALREADY INVENTIN SPACE SHIPS N SHIIET

WE MADE DA PIRAMIDS N SHIIEET DA GODS WUZ ASTRO NIGGERS

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>>127731612

>>127711572
We should start a petition to have Obama personally be the first man, black man, to set foot on the sun.

Anyone else ok with this?

We'll start preparations on the cannon to launch Obama-I tomorrow.

>>127731711
They're getting real time data on what the sun emits.

>>127731827
Exactly, supported by logic, maybe it's my kind of logic, I don't know, people will twist everything.
The universe being a simulation would be a way crazier thing than the ISS being useless or fake or even the Earth being flat.

>>127731992
If its not a hoax its to decide wether the sun is electric or nuclear.

what's an even bigger fucking waste is that stupid wall trump wants to build

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>99.9999999999999999999999% of the natural resources in the universe are outside the planet
>lol what a WASTE!!!

>>127731711
breh, science is all about experimentation. you can learn A LOT from watching shit blow up or disintegrate.

this assumes that whatever they send there will be outright destroyed, of course.

>>127732051
I dont think so.The universe being a simulation has nothing to do with us.The ISS being useless fake hoax IS made by humans.For a reason.Known to them.

>>127711572
Why wont they just fly to it at night?
Wouldn't then they be able to land on it?

Has anyone ever thought that maybe the reason we see the moon and the sun as circles is because we're looking at them through circular irises? It could be an illusion.

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Can somebody play devil's advocate here and explain what good could potentially come from this?

>>127711572
>you will never drive a spacecraft into the sun and go out in a glorious blaze.

>>127732264

Nah, it's still hot as fuck. It takes months for something like the sun to cool down enough.

>>127711572
>shieeeeeeeet why is gobment money spent on science n stuf wen it culd b uzed 4 gibsmedat

is /pol/ full of flat earth fags now, wtf

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>>127712437

We know enough about the sun already.
We need to start phase 2.

>>127732688
what if we fly a couple of buckets of water and dump them on it?

>>127732214
Anything pertaining to the universe has something to do with us.
The last two sentences of yours tell me a lot though. I got into conspiracy theories in the first place because I didn't believe any of them and because I love to understand how humans work.

And I'm going to go out on a limb and say that a lot of conspiracies stem from people misunderstanding human action and intention on a deep level at first, experiencing the cognitive dissonance and emotional pain of that and then either work on understanding in a healthy way or work on understanding in an unproductive way, divining extraordinary intentions into the most benign actions.
That doesn't have to apply to you but I think I'm onto something there. You can ignore this post, it was kind of only for me.

>>127732400

You could probably get some improved measurements about the sun and maybe some totally new data. Maybe test/confirm some shit we've come up with.

>>127714093
I thought the sun is not even hot enough to have nuclear fusion? Wasn't there a whole hoopla back in the early 2000's about That?

>>127713150
Figured it would be something like that.

>>127732908

I don't think we have enough water to perform a feat like that. Maybe if we had a sun made of ice.

>>127733153
>>127714093

Or does it maintain it due to pressure since it's so enormous. If that's the case then why go to the sun? What other goals are they hoping to accomplish?

>>127711572
they want to test the theory that 1000 marines could win against the sun

>>127712919
I don't even know where to start with how ignorant this statement is. I hate stupid people.

>>127733474
What if we freeze the earth and fly it into the sun?

>>127713385
The sun would get orders of magnitude more iron from asteroids in fucking day than it will from this probe. Shit it might even produce more of it by itself as random flukes/chance even at its current hydrogen to helium stage.

>>127733153
there's constant nuclear fusion inside the sun ya dingus, hydrogen is constantly transformed into helium, while heat may not be high enough (tough, i'm not sure), with the pressure generated on it's core, it's enough to have nuclear fusion

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>>127712004

>>127711572
Hopefully this is so the nigger population can all be astronaughts and have the claim to walked on the sun first, if the survive... like YT does with the moon.

>>127733619

I'm not sure if we can accelerate earth quick enough to reach the sun during night time.

If we can, then it probably works.

>>127732989
My problem is that i think everything we know from the base is flawed making the adult picture distorted.Like em drive cant work because law prohibits it yet after 50 years it looks like its working but nobody can tell why is it working.How many things could have gone unnoticed because some law stated its impossible and no experiment was conducted?
My last two sentences...You may have the truth there,but there is something for sure.

>>127733789
The Sun could be electric you know.That way you dont have invent bullshit to support the nuclear theory.

>>127734079
how? that's even more mindfuckery

>>127733969
The em drive is producing about as much trust as a photon thruster, fucking useless and no new discovered physics.
>>127734079
>The sun could be electric you know
kek

>>127711701
>>127725659
Exactly, looks fake as fuck. If there's no gravity there's no reason for it to move in any direction, same with the hair, Why is it pointing up? It's only to create the illusion that "hurr duhrr, in no gravity there's a magic force that pulls things upwards instead" and fool the scrubs. There's no reason why the hair wouldn't be pointing downwards and remained like that if she took a second to move it with her hands.
>inb4 the necklace moves because of small vibrations in her body
Then compare the movement of the necklace to the nonexistent movement of the hair and realize that it's all CGI.

>>127711572
You guys do realize that objects can get very close to the sun without being destroyed right?
Spacecraft can reach temperatures exceeding that of the sun during reentry and be made to survive.
Also the mission isn't to crash into the sun they're sending a robot to an orbit about 3.7million miles from the sun to study the sun's corona and take pictures with an array of cameras tuned to different light spectrums.

>>127734424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT3DWZBKoRk
Sounds logical to me.Also answers why simulations of the sun to create selfsustaining fusion for energy purposes fails.Because the Sun is not what we belive it is.

>>127734502
>why crank up the power to have more thrust than a photon

>>127734079
>Sun could be electric

it's true when there's an eclipse that's just jesus changing the light bulb