I converted to Islam 3 weeks ago because i liked how redpilled

>>127641496
kys.

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>>127641496
Gee, i don't know. Go ask your local Imam or something, bruv.

>>127641496
Islam is a religion centered around a brutal warlord. What did you expect?

>>127641496

Islam is the hokiest of religions, don't buy this shit little nigga, you're better off without a child molesting retard as your prophet.

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Not a muslim, but I love nasheeds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_tjxz4yS_U

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>>127641496
>converting to a religion before even finishing their holy book

>>127641496

>Beyond horrific

It says it loud and clear in the Quran,anyone who fucks with you,don't just stand still.

>>127642004
>warlord
Yes,because the Christians and Zoroastrian empires would've let Muslim missionaries preach the religion peacefully.

>>127642171
She willingly had sex with him,your just jelly because he got to fuck a loli meanwhile your shit war normalizing race is slowly dying because of how much women of all races neglect you, and those who don't end up getting bored of you pretty quickly

>>127641496
Enjoy burning in Hell, civic nationalist moron.

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>>127641496
>TFW he fell for the god meme.

>>127642716
Every Muslim burns in Hell.
There is a reason you people have been cursed to be 3rd world canon fodder. That's not a blessing, infidel.

muslims stole our music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0d4qM7gCH8&ab_channel=StoneAngel123

>>127642222
pretty sweet

>>127643594

>Every Muslims burns in Hell

Oh really? who told you this? a bunch of lonely virgin White boys in a fucking Taiwanese silk weaving forum?

Also
>Be Christian
>Have literally every sin forbidden in the 3 Abrahamic religions part of your culture.
>Wonder why Islam happened in the first place and how it conquered the only 2 empires on earth of its time.

>>127641496
Yes. Also the prophet (peace be upon him) did nothing wrong, lolis are halal.

>>127641496
Commit suicide. You're a plague to the human race.

>>127644062
>defending a pedophile religion
>believing in magical fairy lands

kys

>>127641496
https://youtu.be/fdK-d_RQWM4

>>127641496
mashalah brother :D

>>127641496

>Is this suppose to be meant literally?
No silly billy. All religions are true for their particular context. Recognize that world mythologies are metaphorical for that which can not be understood by human minds.

t. Joseph Campbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLUgZhLJCHk

>>127644062
Read dabte's divine comedy. Muhomed has a pretty special punishment in either the 7th or 8th circle. Basically his guts are all out on display and his son or something is on a leash walking around endlessly with a gash on his head.

>>127641496
>I converted to Islam 3 weeks ago because i liked how redpilled the religion was and i also liked listening to quranic verses and nasheeds, it somehow had a powerfull and emotional effect on me.
Im sorry, Hans. How long have you been autistic?

>>127644612

>Muh fairy tales
>Look at me I am so smart because my head is so far up my ass I refuse to believe in anything that doesn't make 1000% sense to me. I also believe that humans evolved from fish having sex with monkeys. I AM SMART

>>127644062
>be muslim
>be scum of the earth

Just blow yourself up now my mudslime friend

>>127645316

Oh sure,I would totally believe a bunch of shit written by Jews for the Christian religion.

Enjoying not adhering to sharia law or being accused of it and having imam beat your ass! Also your male friends in mosque will rape you faggot

>>127641496
grats on your conversion, but best of luck they don't kill you on your way out.

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>>127641496
You joined a religion without knowing about its founder?

>>127642716
>Yes,because the Christians and Zoroastrian empires would've let Muslim missionaries preach the religion peacefully.
Yeah, actually, they did. They just weren't the sort of inbred to believe him, and so like all imbeciles he turned violent.

>>127645561

>Be Christian
>Normalize the living shit out of every sin and basically make it a tradition in your country and also declare war against your fellow Christians for the stupidest of fucking reasons for the past 700 years,slowly leading to an inevitable death of your warlike race. But hey,we got cool looking buildings.

>>127641496
Why the fuck did you convert before actually knowing what the religion (cult) is about?

Read the Bible. I bet you've never even read it.

>>127643647
And you stole ours ;)
https://youtu.be/TXTUPLqjCns

>>127646178
Why was your prophet always covered in semen?

>>127641496
>he believes the flying carpet story
Hahaha lmao

>>127641496
Are you trolling or serious? because I'm willing to have discussion

>>127641496
and you know the best part?
once you're in, there's no going out
ask your imam what happens to apostates, and enjoy

>>127646527
Because he was I player, why u hating? kek

>>127646178
t. Butthurt Muslim whose religion has produced nothing but over a billion inbred savages

Fuck off and blow up like the rest of your kind

> 1 post by this id. Sage.

>>127646902
Semen goes in woman's vagina or mouth, not a man's clothes. Only a person who receives cum gets it on their clothes.

>>127646118

>Yes they did

Bullshit. The Copts faced heavy discrimination from the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine Empire and the "WE WUZ PERSIANS" hated any religion that wasn't theirs and yet they somehow would've let us preach it freely?

They would've simply viewed the religion as "some religion made by simple-minded Arabs" and would've executed any missionaries upon arrival.

>>127645455
Go blow up a marketplace goat-fucker

>>127647163
How do you know he had semen? were you with him?

>>127646527

>Implying he was a Christian into "Greek freedom" bullshit.

>>127646998

>What was the Islamic Golden Age
>Inb4 it never existed
>Inb4 it was done by non-Arabs.
Yes,non-Arabs who were Muslim..
>Blow up

I don't actually kill innocent people daily or want to blow anything up,but you people have your head so far up your ass that you decide to have 5 or 6 of us represent all 1.7 billion of us.

>converts to the dullest religion

>>127647384

>Kill innocent people minding their own business

Wasn't that a tradition that you people did not even more than 100 years ago? (I am refering to WWII bombings,btw.)

>>127642716
I notice you didn't address the flying horse

>>127641496
great now you can't de-convert or they'll literally kill you

>>127647602
>muslim countries today are some of the shittiest in the world
>incapable of modern civilization
>muh golden age

Also:

>egypt

kek

>>127647886

I don't remember anything about a flying horse,but I know that he did ascend. And even if the Quran says it happened then I would believe without a second thought.

>>127647387
How do you know he spoke to angels? Were you with him?

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>>127648060
>Muslim countries shittiest in the world
>What are Persian Gulf countries.

Any "shittyness" that is present in any Muslims country nowadays has nothing to do with Islam, it is entirely due to geographical and socio-economic reasons. Do you expect us to whip out a fucking #1 on HDI out of thin air?

Also considering the fact that we live in an open harsh fucking desert with little to no resources other than fossil fuels,I say we're doing pretty well,famalam.

>>127647602
>implying you're not cheering every time Europeans and Americans get blown up

>>127644946

Muslims are damned is this life as well as the next. But in HIS infinite Mercy ALLAH made them live in the desert to acclimatize themselves to Hell Fire!

>>127648545
>Persian Gulf countries
>not shitty

are you even trying?

>>127642716
you got raped by a 1 inch paki muslim dik

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>>127644062
this ugly muslim thinks he knows something
muslims are weak links

>>127648545
your blowing shit out of your mouth mate, look at north africa and other countries islam is the main countries soul if islam was removed you people would be mindless zombies

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>>127641496
>to lazy to use google
>convert to psycho sand religion because of catchy tunes
>get bores and decide to see what you bought into
>be horrified
>find out you can't denounce your new faith with your head still attached
Kill yourself Hans Al-Berlini

>>127645455
hahaha

someone screencap this

it's pure unfiltered stupidity

>>127648545
>>127648545
>Countries that whole income revolves around oil
>Successful
hopefully the oil runs out inshallah you will be eating from the sand

>>127648545
>Do you expect us to whip out a fucking #1 on HDI out of thin air?
Given that you claim to have an all powerful god on your side and a perfect objective system of morality and society it doesn't seem that unreasonable to expect you to be better off than secular nations but instead you're all desperate to get into our superior countries. Because Islam is shit.

>>127648589

I actually go "meh" even when it happened in my home country.

I mean what does it take to create a tragedy in any country? all you need is 1 person,1 will and a shitty home-made bomb ; how hard can that be?

>>127648649
I don't know what kind of "shitty" society has it citizens able to buy gold-plated sports cars.

>>127648792
no u

>>127642716
>It says it loud and clear in the Quran,anyone who fucks with you,don't just stand still.

Yes, like Banu QUrayza childrens

and what happened to them?

Madhammad ordered his companion to remove their pants to see if they reached puberty (clear confusion about the age of the target)

and any of these child who had pubic hair were beheaded

+ rape of women for free

>>127648163
It is mentioned in the quran and I believe that, but semen and what not is not mentioned

>>127641496
It's too late to come back. You will never be trusted to not explode in a hospital now. Have fun with your towel sporting jihad bros. You're stuck with em now.

>>127641496
Just know OP, even if you should have one hundred percent indo European genes, you are no longer white!

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>>127649357
The number one reason I would never convert is because mu-ham-mad acted like a pig, killing and raping people. No real prophet would act like that. I have more respect for pigs than mu-ham-mad.

We need someone we can trust to keep a record of who is white and who is not so when that day comes we ate not infiltrated by subhuman like OP.

>>127649357

>I don't know what kind of "shitty" society has it citizens able to buy gold-plated sports cars.

Yeah, the very top masters while normal citizen are basically peasants without political rights.

>>127649381
>Madhammad ordered
No you lying piece of shit. They had an agreement(a pact) with the other tribes in the city and they broke that agreement and they applied the punishment in the agreement, EVEN without muhammed orders.

>>127642716
>Yes,because the Christians and Zoroastrian empires would've let Muslim missionaries preach the religion peacefully.
They did. The Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem were the ones who kept Muslisms, Christians, Jews, and Medo-practitioners all safe.

>>127650218
>Implying you can agree to kill children and rape women

>>127648545
They same idiots who claim Islam is the major reason Muslim countries and MENA is garbage will deny that christianity has anything to do with why sub-sahara Africa is garbage. If Islam is the problem with the Middle East than than Christianity is why sub-saharan Africa is fucked up

>>127648095
hmm nice using your brain there huh, wouldnt be easily manipulated now would you.

>>127650359

Except Christian sub-saharan Is much better than islamic sub-saharan

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>>127641496

>>127641712
first post best post

>>127650218
and then his psychopathic followers asked (after destroying the region)

- CAN WE FUCK THE CAPTIVE WIVES? BECAUSE WE SUFFER THE ABSENCE OF OUR MANY CHILD WIVES? CAN WE RAPE THE REMAINING VICTIMS FOR FREE?

Madhammad : BUT OF COURSE ! YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CASTRATE YOURSELVES.


Ultimate cavern dweller philosophy, RAHMAN & RAHIM ! 999/1000 person into hell!

are you not ashamed to even breath?

>>127650422
No you see its true because its in their special book. Why is their special book true I hear you ask well it says its true right there in their special book.

Checkmate non-retards.

>>127649071

You do realize you just said "Islam made you civilized" right?

>>127649285

>Why doesn't god always do your shit for you?
>What is free-will that humans accepted to have?

>>127649277

Don't be too cheerful,these people have invested very well with the wealth they acquired through oil in infrastructure and a diverse economy (unlike some specific Christian nation that could've become one of the richest nations on earth but ended up becoming African-tier), that there is no way this wet dream of yours is going to happen.

>>127650336
> rape women
let's make up shit now lmao
Yes this is an agreement they had between them as tribes and they applied the punishment both the other jewish tribes and the muslims/christian. It was not something he thought of or even ordered.
I don't know why I'm even arguing with illiterate, hate driven people.
>and then his psychopathic followers asked (after destroying the region)
How do you know they asked him that? and what he answered ?

>>127650692
this >>127651140

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>>127650775
No, islahm has dumbened down parts of the world that were once smart. The mudslimes even destroyed the library at Alexandria.

I fucking hate Muslims. Worse than niggers.

>>127651140
>How do you know they asked him that? and what he answered ?
If someone answered this with "its written in my magical holy book therefore its true", would you be satisfied with the answer?

>>127651140
because, you nasty ugly motherfucker lowiq who cant make his own shoes laces, like your aberration of a king, king salmonella and his microbs childrens, you believe that your opinion and testimonial is higher than those of muslim/abudaoud/aisha/al bkari? these are not ashamed of raping women and fuking chidls. but if you're so butthurt and cant be accept your own religion, then why don't you go make another new and shiny sect?

>>127641496
The only abrahamic religion worth its salt is Gnostic Christianity

>>127641496
you're real fucken dumb, "Hans"

>>127651340
whoa slow down there cowboy, do you want this thread to get snackbarred?

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>>127651140
You can't "agree" to kill innocent people as they are not yours in the first place. Proof mu-ham-mad was a false prophet for allowing innocent people to be killed.

>>127641496
>converted to Islam
>now he can't UN-convert without getting killed

LMAO, you Germans are stupid

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>>127651744
What, are these pictures offensive or something?

>>127651553
You understand that Different branches of Islam refer to different collections of hadith? and Hadith was only started to be collected decades after Prophet died?
>>127651531
My book is the Quran, so where does say rape women ?

>>127641496
Don't you think you should have actually researched it a bit first before converting. They will kill you now if you stop going. Moron.

>>127651553
Lmao whenever anti Islam faggots argue they get BTFO. You're just being emotional and throwing insults because you don't understand what you're arguing against

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>>127651690
So glad to see this spreading on /pol/. Gnosticism truly is the most redpilled of all.

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>>127641496
>islam is redpilled

>>127642716
>literally defending pedophilia

when does the purge really begin

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>>127641496
You think a religion created a sandnigger warlord pedophile ,who fucked 9 year olds, whos followers constantly kill white people and threaten Western Civilization, who are majority sandniggers, is fucking red pill?
>HOLY DICK BALLS!!!!! YOU'RE A BITCH BOY!!!

Germany is lost. Fucking gas yourselves,cucks!!!

>>127641496
fake and gay

>>127652050

"We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter" (Sahih Muslim 3371)

>>127652050
Thats not what I'm asking. I'm asking if "my holy book says its true" is a valid answer in general. If it is then we can just say whatever we like about Mohammed and claim God or angels told us it was true.

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>>127641496
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>>127641496
4

>>127652396
my answer is perfect in form and reason, you're illeterate and should be insulted in all purity

Lole, have you ever read the Old Testament? It's brutal af.

Anyway Islam is redpilled. Marrying 9 year old girls and killing everyone who disagrees with you is alpha as fuck.

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>>127642716
>supporting molesting innocent little kids
I wish I could find a sick fuck like you one day. You guys seems to just hide online like little bitches.
I would skin your dick like a banana and make you eat it.

>>127652852
Cuck bitch

>>127653037
i swear its this camel eggplant nosed subrace that destroyed Iraq/iran and afghanistan, the very day they got richer they attacked all of their neighboors

>>127651553
To be accurate, Hadith was "formally" collected 200 years after his death and by word of mouth. So can you see how there will fake stories/Hadiths?
Let alone the creation of fake hadiths by Caliphates/Imams/merchants to push political agenda.
Also the Hadith contradicts The versus
in the quran that Muhammd is only a man that can make mistakes/forgets. For example, the quran called out the prophet on mistakes he did such as neglecting a blind man, so he makes mistakes. Which makes the only divined inspired text is the Quran, keep in mind that the translation of the Quran is Understood through a Historical/Hadith not language, and this is were the problem exist.
>>127652552
>>127652564

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>>127653301
tl;dr the scriptures of islahm are unreliable and disorganized

>>127652564
If the Holy book asks you to commit Murder and spread fear to the innocent then it is not a book from god, and no "my holy book says its true" is not a valid answer.

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>>127653252
They are crypto-jews so of course they're fucking shitty.

>>127653301
If the Quran was the literal most important thing ever wouldn't god want to ....uh.... get it right and everything?

Im troubled by the the haphazard way the Quran and Hadiths were organized and handled historically

>>127653647
You worship a kid-fucking warlord with the IQ of a pig. Fuck off.

>>127653301
The Quran was also word of mouth until it was compiled many years after the fact. The oldest complete Quran is from the 9th century, and the oldest fragments are from 671. You can't have it both ways.

>>127653647
By your own logic therefore when you say "Mohammed spoke to angels because it says so in the Quran" it is not a valid answer.

>>127653778
The Quran was collected and written while the prophect was alive. the Hadith is bunch of talk/work of mouth that was collected decades/200 year after his death. Different branches of Islam refer to different collections of hadith. ALL sects refers to the same book which is the Quran. So no, the Quran was organized and handled better than all holy books.
>get it right and everything?
What do you mean by that?

>>127654265
The Quran was collected and WRITTEN while the prophect was alive. NOT work of mouth.

See this >>127654295

Read about how the Hadith was collected and compare that with the quran.

>>127641496
Kill your self. Islam is a degenerate religion, you are a degenerate.

Unfucking convert infidel

Remeber DEUS VULT nigger

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>>127654573
Provide evidence then. As far as I'm aware the oldest Quranic documents are the Sana'a manuscripts and they are from 50 odd years after Mohammed's death and don't even match the standard version.

>>127641496

Congratulations Kraut kuck.

Not only were you brainwashed from birth. Now you've deliberately chosen to join a religion programmed into the brains of the most savage and inbred people on Earth.

And you likely said the Shahada. Which means these doubts you're having make you an Apostate. Which means all your brothers in the Umma will try and kill you first chance they get.

Glad I'm not German. What a bunch of human pandas, doomed to ignominious extinction.

>>127641496
die, lol that fucking flag
>>127641712
fpbp

>I converted to Islam 3 weeks
cuck

>>127653700
isnt it funny that madhammad boasted "What is war but deception?"

>>127641496
>Germany
How fitting

>>127654839
> Sana'a manuscripts
here is your proof
the text matches the standard version
The lower text has some differences because It was the same as the upper text, but written in their dialect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sana%27a_manuscript

>>127652552
Yeah, multiple testimonials from multiple of the highest respected (in all sects) companions of the prophet reports and none of them contradicts these rape/beheading/looting/massacres (that they are not ashamed of), but your 1400 years later opinion is the one that matters, and you decide what the prophet should be ashamed of or not. epic stuff. just invent another sect, we need 99 before the end times.

>>127654839
But you are mistook my argument.
Idea that everything the prophet did or said in part of Islam is wrong and against the Quran. Because the Quran points out mistakes or missteps that he made and also pointing that he is a great human, but still a man. And only his book should be followed and not stories that were written about him 200 years later, which he didn't allow to be written.

Well it's too late to get out now cause muh apostasy. Hang in there bruh.

>>127656049
I know what the Sana'a manuscripts are, because I was the one that brought them up. They are not evidence that the Quran was written during Mohammed's lifetime because they date to decades after he died.

>>127641712
This. Congratulations OP, you fell for a religion invented by Jesuits.

>>127641496
Cut horizonal=hospital. Cut vertical= sweet release.

>>127657383
Regardless if the Quran was written during or after.(which all sect of Islam Believe it was written during his life) Hadith was NEVER written during his life!

Hadith is word of mouth the was written 200 years later, even Muslims from all sects know this.

My Main and last point, the Quran is the main book of allah and never mentions Hadith and always repeats that this is the only and complete book(Hmm, maybe pointing that hadith is blasphemy). The Idea of Hadith, which is everything the prophet said or did is part of islam is not true, and goes against the Quran(see >>127656490 ) that is it

>>127658991
dirty trick from this eggplant nosed sandnigger cavern dweller pretending :

- muslims should not follow prophet's example as if he never lived

- all testimony from al bukhari / Abu daoud / muslim / aisha / companions are void because he decides so.

>>127658991
Shut your dirty sand nigger mouth you sub human.

>>127641496
Yes. You're a fucking retard for converting. Religion is poison.

>>127659436
>al bukhari / Abu daoud / muslim / aisha / companions
How do you know they said this if it was transported by word of mouth for more that 200 years? let alone the numerous evidence that Caliphate used it to push his agenda.(you knwo people were fighting for power)
> muslims should not follow prophet's example as if he never lived
How do you know it is his example? and not random person with an agenda ?

>>127658991
All sects of Islam believe all sorts of bollocks, it doesn't make it true.

There is no evidence that the Quran was written during Mohammed's lifetime, therefore by your own argument, if the hadith is prone to errors because the events it describes are non-contemporary then so is the Quran.

The basis of Islam is that Muslims are the TRUE Jews (gods chosen) and that Jews and Christians didn't listen to Mohammad, a guy that didn't know or understand either religion.

It's literally a religion based off some illiterate faggots headcanon fantasy. Islam bases it's religion on Judaism and Christianity but gets it wrong.

>>127660103
Never mind that it condones pedophilia, war crimes, murder, slavery, and other things like that...

If you think God would choose a sandnigger as a prophet or a messiah you're retarded

>>127641496
Ignore slide threads!
>>127658973
>>127658973
>>127658973

>>127659988
>How do you know it is his example? and not random person with an agenda ?
You could ask the same question about the Quran, and indeed, every single other historical document.

>>127660338
Well those things are evidence that its fucking horrible but not neccessarily evidence that it is historically erroneous.

>>127660700
True. OP is still a dipshit, though.

>>127652845
>illeterate
the irony
you just got BTFO by yourself paul

>>127660103
Then why did all the Islamic Empires(after the fall of Abbasid Caliphate) Belive in the same quran but different hadith books?
why all the sects believe in the same Quran, but different Hadith ? All the oldest Qurans such as Sana'a manuscripts match the current version. What evidence do you want more than this? any historian would see this as enough evidence.
>>127660700
>You could ask the same question about the Quran, and indeed, every single other historical document.
No because of the reason above. Hadith doesn't have 1/100 of the validity that the Quran has.

>>127660338
It doesn't

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>>127641496
Just leave islam. It's easy, isn't it?

>>127641496
you should have done more research
there is stuff in Islam horrible beyond recognition, but it's too late now
Islam has a death penalty for apostasy, if you try to leave it will cost you your life
do some good with your life; make lots of blog posts and notes and messages about how you're afraid you'll die, and when you end up getting killed it will be a powerful message to the progressive liberal world about the monster they are defending.
Remember; Muslims are the primary victim of Islam.

>>127661484
Yeah, let's just ignore Aisha, the trail of blood that Muhammad left in his wake, or the reign of terror that your waste of a country exhibits upon gays, apostates, and women.

>>127661484

And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.
Qur'an 65:4

>>127641496
I converted to b8 three weeks ago and now I'm worried I can't leave b8 or I'll be killed by my new neighbors

Islam was written in the language you read it in. There is no room for interpretation, none. Fucking garbage.

>>127642716
Fuck allah. If you believe a man split the moon in half, then you're retarded.

>>127661484
Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek them from your property, desiring chastity, not fornication. So with those among them whom you have enjoyed, give them their required due, but if you agree mutually after the requirement (has been determined), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise.
Qur'an 4:24

>>127645455
If evolution isn't true, then why are there different races? Magic? No. Gene changes. If you accept gene change, you accept evolution. Period. Including speciation. Dumb nigger. You don't have a science degree. You know nothing.

FUCK. ALLAH.

>>127649457
I believe in fucking allah and muhammad both. No homo.

>>127662196
Holy fuck on a sofa. That guy's retarded.

>>127652578
he looks pretty white desu

>>127661381
>any historian would see this as enough evidence.
No they wouldn't. Evidence of the Quran being written contemporary to Mohammed would be the existence of documents that date from that time, as far as we know, there are none of those in existence.

>No because of the reason above. Hadith doesn't have 1/100 of the validity that the Quran has.
I am not saying the Hadith is more valid than the Quran, I treat both with the same skepticism I would treat any historical document. You are the one giving the Quran special treatment that you don't apply to any other text.

so many goat fucking sympathizers tonight... smells like a distraction

>>127642222
Kys cuck

>>127647863
sub human desert monkey

>>127661979
>Islam was written in the language
>Islam was written
Expert on Islam here kek
>>127661949
1-They claim that the Arabic word ‘Nisa’ could also refer to ‘female children’. Let us take a look in Arabic-English dictionaries. The Arabic word ‘Nisa’ has been used 59 times in the Quran. Not once has the word ‘Nisa’ been used for a ‘child(ren)’, it has always referred to mature adult women.
2-The Quran has commanded Muslim women to observe a waiting period, which they must observe before they can remarry. This waiting period must be observed after they are divorced, which is a (waiting) period of three months. Critics often use the part where it says, “[also for] those who have not menstruated”, and conclude that this gives permission to Muslims to marry female children. Some other English translations render the word ‘yet’ at the end of the passage. If we look at the verse just as it is, it does not mention or state that “you can marry female children.”
https://discover-the-truth.com/2016/03/12/quran-654-the-child-marriage-claim/

>>127662087
your right hands possess, doesn't mean slave in arabic.
I could argue with you about every single verse, but sorry I have a life.

but I will leave you with this. the Quran is looked at from a Historical and Hadith Preservative(that is why different sects have different interpretations) Not you using sound language and simple logic.

>>127641712
People think fpbp, but don't realize he'd blow up if he did that.

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>>127661484

>>127662018
Lol did moh split the moon in half ? .... This would make sense since moh thought the world was flat , it would be a easy claim to make

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>>127663252
not a single argument found

>>127659988
>>al bukhari / Abu daoud / muslim / aisha / companions
>How do you know they said this if it was transported by word of mouth for more that 200 years? let alone the numerous evidence that Caliphate used it to push his agenda.(you knwo people were fighting for power)
>> muslims should not follow prophet's example as if he never lived
>How do you know it is his example? and not random person with an agenda ?

dude i've shown more iman and respect to your own prophet (ironically, because of the principle of evidence and truth you cannot even grasp with your permanent lying /dirty tricks), i hope ur god rewards me with ur 72 virgins instead, u fuking hypocrite.

>>127663252
Here, one should bear in mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Quran the question of the waiting period arises in respect of the women with whom marriage may have been consummated, for there is no waiting-period in case divorce is pronounced before the consummation of marriage. (Al-Ahzab: 49). Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for the girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl in marriage at this age but it is also permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Quran has held as permissible.
Commentary on Qur'an Chapter 65:4
Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi, Tafhim al-Qur'an

>>127661979
>There is no room for interpretation
>Most Muslims have been killed by other Muslims that interpreted the Quran differently.

Holy fuck are you retarded?

>>127663252
Surah al-Talaaq 65:4: If a woman does not menstruate, either because she is very young or old and past menopause, then her ‘iddah is three months, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the ‘Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have no courses (i.e. they are still immature) their ‘Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise.[7]
Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen, Majmoo’at As’ilah tahumm al-Usrah al-Muslimah, p. 61-63

>>127662483
My main point(again) that Hadith contradicts the Quran and most important teaching in Islam(that you shouldn't elevate a human to god status) And Hadith does that!
2- Hadith is not as valid as the Quran, so why do you have the same skepticism?
3- Hadith is different in sects and WITHIN sects, but the Quran is not

Seeing all of this and then calling them equal in validity/skepticism is stupid
>>127663460
because he did lay an argument
>>127663814
Clean your glasses

>>127641712
This

>>127664094
Didn't*

>>127641496
You ain't no Muslim, bruv

>>127641496
Change your mind, don't go to mosque or wherever you've been going, never tell anyone it happened.

Probably nothing will happen. That's what I would try. If you stick it in their faces and say you're quitting, maybe they'll feel they have to do something. Just let it slide away easily.

>>127644062
lol you are rich.

>>127663252
Apologists claim that the Qur'an only uses the word Nisa to refer to mature, adult women, therefore 65:4 cannot be talking about pre-pubescent females. This is indeed a weak argument, which we can refute using the Qur'an itself. Here are some verses that use the word "nisa":

Transliteration: Waith najjaynakum min ali firawna yasoomoonakum sooa alAAathabi yuthabbihoona abnaakum wayastahyoona Nisaakum wafee thalikum balaon min rabbikum AAatheemun

Yusuf Ali: And remember, We delivered you from the people of Pharaoh: They set you hard tasks and punishments, slaughtered your sons and let your women-folk live; therein was a tremendous trial from your Lord.
Qur'an Text/Transliteration 2:49

>>127641496
Fick dich Arschloch, Europäer mussten sich vor den Handtuchköpfern für 1200 Jahre verteidigen und du verschmutzt deren Geschichte durch Schweineficker muhamad verehrung. Finde einige ficky fickys, und geht euch alle gegenseitig umbringen.
tl;dr: muhamad is a pig fucker

>>127664452
>>127663252
Qur'an Text/Transliteration 7:141

Transliteration: Waith anjaynakum min ali firawna yasoomoonakum sooa alAAathabi yuqattiloona abnaakum wayastahyoona Nisaakum wafee thalikum balaon min rabbikum AAatheemun

Yusuf Ali: And remember we rescued you from Pharaoh’s people, who afflicted you with the worst of penalties, who slew your male children and saved alive your females: in that was a momentous trial from your Lord.

>>127664372
Apostasy is an actual death sentence in Islam, anon.

>>127663252

ويستفتونك في النساء قل الله يفتيكم فيهن ومايتلى عليكم في الكتاب في يتامى النساء اللاتي لاتؤتونهن ماكتب لهن وترغبون ان تنكحوهن والمستضعفين من الولدان وان تقوموا لليتامى بالقسط وماتفعلوا من خير فان الله كان به عليما
Transliteration: Wayastaftoonaka fee alnnisa-i quli Allahu yufteekum feehinna wama yutla AAalaykum fee alkitabi fee yatama alnnisa-i allatee la tu/toonahunna ma kutiba lahunna watarghaboona an tankihoohunna waalmustadAAafeena mina alwildani waan taqoomoo lilyatama bialqisti wama tafAAaloo min khayrin fa-inna Allaha kana bihi AAaleeman

Literal: And they ask for your opinion/clarification in the women, say: "God decreed/clarifies in them (F), and what is read/recited on you in The Book in the women orphans/minors that lose their father, those who (F) you did not give them (F) what was written/dictated to them (F), and you desire that you marry them (F), and the weakened from the children/new borns, and that you take care of to the orphans/minors that lose their father with the just/equitable; and what you make/do from goodness, so that God was/is with it knowledgeable."[12]
Qur'an Text/Transliteration 4:127

In summary, when Muslims asked Muhammad who the "Nisa" were, he said they were the:

Orphans
Female wards
Those you desire to marry
The weakened from the children or new born.

>>127641878
This.

>>127647602
I'm pretty sure you're just a troll at this point. Even a subhuman can understand on some level that the most significant impact Muslims had on science was doing irreparable damage to it with the sacking of the Great Library. What they didn't burn they "translated" to claim as their own. Pre-Islam Arabia had a few noteworthy individuals I will admit, but ever since the inception of the theocratic ideological blight that is Islam, they are all like their prophet - degenerates and liars who deserve to choke to death on pig shit.

>>127664039
>>127664001
All of this is from the perspective of Hadith, not language, they even cite hadith in their interpretation. Like I said this subject requires Hours alone and with people how understand the language. But I agree that the current understanding is wrong and linguistically inaccurate.
Read about Quranism(sect in Islam) interpretation, they are more language based.

>>127641496
>He fell for the mudpill
wew lad.

>>127664756
> when Muslims asked Muhammad who the "Nisa" were, he said they were the:
Like I said, Hadith perspective, not language

>>127651690
>>127652434
Gnosticism is Satanism. Enjoy Hell, heretics.

>>127653037
> that jpg
spotted the kike

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>>127641496
That's why you're not allowed to drink beer anymore, m8 - because that's the only way you can come up with bullshit like the flying horses and they don't want competition for old mate moham.

I've drawn a cute picture of Mohammed and a new six year old wife and her brother. I hope you like it.

>>127665060
Nisa means milk nipple in Estonian.

>>127665060
>Like I said, Hadith perspective, not language

You can not have the 5 pillars of Islam without the hadiths, the hadiths matter

>>127654295
Nice try.
Have a redpill:
Islam was invented by Chinese to fuck up their competitors,

>>127641496
the prophet mohamed got his head cut off. he is a historical figure

>>127652852
>check flag
>it's a leaf
not surprised

>>127652852
Sure.
Being anti-intellectual and anti-science is alpha as fuck.

>>127668348
F8ck yeah it is - ask Russia, they are both and been kicking your ass for 100 years.

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>>127641496

the saudi here tells you : go by your own interpretation while there is only one interpretation of islam : the prophet's one;

his interpretation include : .pdf files / beheading of childrens of banu quraiza / slavery / multiple wives + fornication of of unlimited slaves & captives for free (free fuck without marriage) / allow beating and abuse of wives until 'the skin color is darker than the veil' without blame / etc etc etc etc etc

Anything you point out about the prophet he will say "hes a human, he do errors", or the tradition (haddit) are void and fabricated.

Very impressive.
So there is nothing left but Errors by a prophet directly guided by god and that his God himself do Errors. very impressive stuff, cool story, would star trek again.

>>127667687

bullcrap he got poisoned and or died years after