What's the mentality behind getting a worthless degree like

>>127608305
So that good little genderfluid drones can be sent out into society to utterly fuck it up for ever.

It feels good to me smarter than everyone else. 4/10 bait replied for weed qt

We have been told since early childhood that everyone should get a degree, and anyone can be anything they want if they just put their mind to it.

This is literally the only career guidance people get. You're actually surprised that some stupid 18 year old chooses a shitty major?

There are two culprits here. Shitty parents that think just having any degree will land you a decent career, leaving their children to make retarded decisions. Also money grubbing colleges that suck gullible kids into worthless majors just so they can suck money out of them

You have to realize that most people shouldn't be in college in the first place.

>>127608305
you get a degree and since almost all employers these day say you at least need that to even be considered for the job their degree is still worth it

unfortunately

>>127608305
because most jobs now require you to have the box checked that you have a degree because they get so many resumes that they need an easy way to filter them

in this day and age if you can't manage to get a simple 4 year degree then you are a subhuman degenerate that probably doesn't belong in the workforce

it's a simple test of competency and can be done with no debt

>>127608305
... thats a boy, right?

>>127608305
they are too stupid to get a real degree.

and that sums it up nicely.

>>127608975
This. Also, what's the real alternative for an average milennial without any significant talents? Working a minimum wage job? Enlisting? NEETing? Crime?

>>127609030
>>127609231
You can just buy a fake one from China.

>>127609231
>if you can't manage to get a simple 4 year degree
>can be done with no debt
nigger what the fuck u smoking

>>127608305
I thought communications was a decent degree?

>history
>useless

be a good goy and don't know your history
be a good goy and code for us

>>127608305
Colleges are businesses now.

Retarded courses are like free money to them.

Indecision about career and life. Universities have these to boost enrollment and tuition revenue.

>>127608305
Want the "college experience" while having a sub 100 IQ. They are dumb enough to think it gives their arguments weight.

>>127608305

>history
>useless

Kill yourself, you community college upstart. Plebs like you should have their necks snapped at birth .

>>127609362
Join the ranks of a political party or their antagonists aka lobbyists

>>127609362
>This. Also, what's the real alternative for an average milennial without any significant talents? Working a minimum wage job? Enlisting? NEETing? Crime?
Moving to Germany and claiming that he's from Syria?

>>127609523
The History they teach in uni isn't accurate.

>>127609466
easily done with no debt. i had a 3.9 in high school and was getting scholarships i had never even applied for

do your general classes at a local community college for 2 years then transfer last 2 years to a state college and boom: engineering degree with debt i paid off in less than a year

how fucking hard is this, you illiterate nigger?

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If I can afford a nite angel I'm a happy man.

>>127608305
I'm doing graphic communications so I'm in the clear.

The world needs more dumb shits. There's clearly not enough.

>>127609523
History is very valuable but I think we're talking about careers and shit.

A history degree is not going to get you many jobs

>>127608305
history major here, its called replacing the filth currently inhabiting the universities in order to help save western civilization.

you must help give subtle redpills throughout the courses you teach, helping turn the tide

Some women are quite rational about it -- college serves as a place to meet future high-earning men and the degree is useful as a marker of class status. The plan is to get married and never work more than part time. If that fails, teach primary school until someone knocks you up.

Although, increasingly, >>127608975

>>127609596
Agreed.

>>127608305
All your childhood:
>do what you like
>follow your dreams
>trust your instinct
>do what seems right
>follow your heart

And you end up doing stuff because you "feel" like it and not because you "think" it's a good thing.

It's what happen when you are raised by women.
(beta males works too)

>>127609655
Would I get gibs if I did the same, claiming I'm just a very light-skinned Syrian?

>>127608305
Laziness combined with status symbol within the retard community. None of those mouth breathers assume they'll ever have to work. Why do you think they're in the front lines when it comes to begging the working class for gibs?

>>127609831
after you spend 8 years getting a history PhD so you can apply for a professorship at a university you will find out there is a line a mile long and will be working at mcdonalds like a nigger

>>127608305
Kids don't know what they want to do so they do these stupid majors thinking it's a viable way to make money while they smoke weed and relax for five years through their parents expenses. I have a friend like this actually a really smart guy plays an instrument,speaks two languages, writes and reads in his spare time but is also going to Evergreen to fuck off from the world and dissociate himself from everything it's really sad his father is a very respectable man.

>>127609841
Godspeed.
History is not supposed to be a low tier degree if the University is good and not infested.

>>127609831
>going to uni for a job

you an unlanded pleb? you can go get a grad degree in something that leads to a job after.

>>127608305
>history
I want to study history(among other topics) because I'd like to work in politics and write books. Going to ignore the propaganda and do a lot of work by myself so I could be objective. I don't see why you lump History with gender studies honestly.

>>127609523
History taught in modern schools in the west is not history. It's (((history))).

If you want to learn history, you'd be better off reading fucking wikipedia than go to schools.

>>127608305
So when yhey get into arguments they can pull the "college educated" bullshit like it fucking matters what level of education you have in an argument where you're objectively wrong

History is actually interesting and fun so I can sort of understand why someone would get a degree in that. Still useless though.

>>127610143
>(((wikipedia)))

>>127610220
That's why I said "fucking wikipedia". It's bad but still miles better than schools.

18yo fag here.
What kind of degree will actually be worth my time and money? Do I have to give up the "do something you enjoy" mantra?

>>127608305
>throwing history in with gender shit

i'll agree that the job prospects for history degrees are bleak but it's worth studying for the sake of it.

>>127608818
>qt

You have disgusting standards

>>127610183
Learning about black lesbians in the 14 century is no use to anybody.

>>127610091
the student body is at around 23,000

has had its troubles, but happened to meet some shitposters from here. it's about 50/50, decent weather, faculty is not entirely retarded

>>127608305
It's quite and easy and people might enjoy the subject.

History is a great field of study if you're going back to school semi-retired after a successful career, or are born into the leisure class, or if you're so completely obsessed that you literally can't do anything else. If you're none of those, it's idiotic.

>>127610444
STEM

>>127610445
You don't have to give the jews $60k to learn history.

>>127610445
the assumption is that there are intelligent people out there expecting to get JUST a history degree and find work after.

when in reality the creme de la creme take history classes, enrich themselves, learn some latin and then pick up and head over to law school or some other grad degree like public administration or get an MBA or something

>>127610444
FIRE > STEMFAGS

>>127610183

Learn it on your own time while getting a degree that will allow you to earn money

damn that was simple

>>127610444
trips
engineering...specifically EE since you will be in a position to go into hardware design or writing software. it's even a much better degree for software than pussy CS bullshit

>>127608305
Funny how all these said worthless degrees are the ones responsible for the change of mentality in society, and one of the roots of the problem. If anything, they are the most important ones, but since they're disregarded, they become a playground for the left wing. The mentality for getting such degree would be influecing positively the masses if you are not under their (((influence))) yet, in order to create more people with the same mentality as yours, just like they've done decades ago, and still are doing it, strong as ever.

>>127609523

>thinking university (((history))) courses will teach anything about history
>thinking revisionism of historical topics doesn't happen even in top universities
>still doesn't make the major useful for a career even without the (((influence))) of the topics

Come on m8.

>>127610444
Finance -> MBA

>>127610444
generic business administration

>>127610444
everything science degree is ok
i mean hard science like math not social science shit

>muh do what you love

If doing what you love is useless to society then you won't get paid for it.

>>127610999
MBA is a deep meme
guess which specific degree shitboxes like university of phoenix pump out the most of

>>127610444
>>127610567
dont lie to the poor kid. i got a math degree, data analysis experience and i get hired anywhere because im a white guy and workplaces now have "diversity"

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>>127610444
In a word, yes. Another way to think about it is that you'll need to figure out how cultivate a sense of enjoyment from a useful pursuit. Try not to choose something you absolutely hate, but expect some pain.

>>127610973
i majored in history, my professors with the exception for us were based right wingers. History as a discipline tends to skew the furthest right amongst the humanities/social sciences.

Who would have imagined that people sitting around reading about the roman empire all day aren't sjw's

So many defensive history people here; I feel right at home! History's for teaching or law-related jobs. There's still a surprising amount of work available but universities have been hammered for 20 years now with perceptions of futility, so they've turned to pandering and done away with academic rigor. Most of us here defending history probably come from a time (not that long ago) when the perceptions of it being a useless degree were misguided. Now it's on par with religious studies. My old profs and advisors whom I've kept in touch with aren't even working as emeriti they're so disgusted with the current state. U of T grad school, McMaster undergrad.

>>127608305
History degree here

I "studied what interested me". Had to go back to grad school to have any hope of landing an actual professional career.

I'm goodest goy, I know.

>>127611062
>>127610999
doing shit you do not understand and make exel sheet all day
for medium wage
let me kek out loud

>>127608305
Preserving Western culture and the Western order.

>>127608305
It used to be so that they could find a rich husband without worrying about the workload. Fuck knows what they do it for now, since they scream 'rape' at the site of any male

>>127608305

Communications isn't shit m8

Most people are shit at communicating.

History is good. Just get modern skills and couple it with your knowledge of history and aesthetic.

>>127611527
Underage. Out.

Since when did history and subsets like archaeology get lumped in with the retarded shit?

I'll admit i've been out of education almost two decades now, has history really fallen too?

>>127611527
communication is for woman

>>127611803
my american peers only judge fields based on their propensity to lead to work, and thus value wheel in the cog type programming shit over a gentleman's degree like history

>>127611803
Some schools are deleting their history programs and replacing them with social justice class

>>127610445

It's fucking pointless to study history. White men haven't learned a fucking thing from their own history in 2000 years. If they had, we wouldn't be in this mess. White men have been warned about the (((Jewish Question))) for 500 years non-stop from their leaders and haven't done a thing to deal with the issue. So please, stop your bullshit.

Stop virtue signaling.

>>127611803

Post feminist ideals have reimagined history and the study of historical perspectives. Can't take a class without the focus being on women of x ancient civilization or how patriarchy kept women oppressed or evil slavery, etc

>>127609515
No, communications is where colleges used to store football players. Now it's a hotbed of SJW-ism because it's easy and requires no research.

>>127610140
Why not just do that without wasting a ton of cash? It is not like the professors at a large university will help.

>>127612004
>pretends to be a 'gentleman'
>not independently wealthy

>>127608305
I think that affirmative action plays a part in this. Universities accept low-IQ minorities to fulfill diversity quotas, and the only classes that those subhumans can "excel" at are SJW-teir bullshit ones

>>127612254
t. law student

>>127611478
you can learn history on your own but you can't learn engineering in an accredited university so you can become a licensed professional engineer without going to a real school

do history on your own time and have both educations and be a marketable individual with skills needed for the future of society

>>127612445
Swing and a miss.

>>127608305
I'll tell you most people go into college believing all degrees are made equal. Obviously, colleges won't refute this to the freshmen.

Also there's the "ugh, i really suck at math and science..." meme

t. almost studied sociology

>>127610445
Learn it yourself. In the modern academic world unless you look at history with a leftist perspective your research will be rejected.

Something like the horrors of communism is haram to your peers.

>>127610444
engineering master race

>>127608305
>communications,
no useless, communication is one of the biggest problem on these goddamn planet as we can't communicate to everyone how great science and knowledge truely are.

>>127610444
Pharmacy.

Childless single woman are the largest consumers of anti depressants so the industry is doing phenomenal these days.

>>127608305

History isn't useless in 100% of cases. The skills you develop in doing legitimate research and analyzing texts are quite helpful towards the LSAT test needed to get into Law School.

However, I will concede that the major is useless on it's own right. However, if you are taking the major with the intent on helping you get into graduate school, then it's worthwhile.

>>127611269

oh cool I have a math degree, where's that job I ordered

>>127609985
>Would I get gibs if I did the same, claiming I'm just a very light-skinned Syrian?
Well they had blacks saying that they are Syrians, so why not trying?
Deportation, if it ever happens, takes more than a year for European countries anyway.
The only reason why I wouldn't recommend it is that you'd probably have to live together with these wonderful people.

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>>127608305
It's not worthless if you think 6 figures of debt is worth validation because you're an insecure cuck faggot.

>>127613037
pill counting? nigger, please. this is mind-numbing nigger work

Blame the baby boomers. They shill college nonstop in the public school system. Career counselors are pushy as fuck with college at high schools because having more college-bound kids looks good for them.

t. HS graduate from 2015 and community college dropout from 2016.

>>127609735
>easily done with no debt
>engineering degree with debt i paid off

are you retarded?

>>127612520
you're right i should pull out and get a degree in IT and work in an office run by an ex history major who cucks me

>>127613706
That's pharmacy technician. A real pharmacist makes insane $$$$.

>>127614216
Your deep insecurities aside, I'm curious how you think your current path will lead to greater personal autonomy.

>>127612169
Why not?
And as someone who's final goal is to write about politics, the Academia is a great environment for me, in theory. That's the main reason why I want a proper degree, comfy academia life, and really what other choice do I have if I want to study History and politics? I don't wanna work at McDonalds.

>>127610444
Engineering

Just be prepared to do actual work and have a shitty social life.

>>127609831
a history degree isn't bad preparation for law school

>never went to (((uni)))
>got a job as a communications officer
>everyone in the office studied it
>anon how did even get in?
>applied from another department
>paid 8k more for less hours
>two years later I apply to be manager
>get it
>most people are happy
>sjw dyke keeps bringing it up
>give her a formal warning

One guy who studied it at university seems on the ball. I guess any course if taught well is valid.

>>127611269
Where's industrial engineering on that, faggot

>>127613037
bretty gud idea :dddd

>>127614133
i didn't do the best route but it's easy to do with no debt. if i had someone to guide me it would have been much easier

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>>127610444
Well, rape studies is a highly wanted qualification here in Germany. We have been importing specialists for quite a while now, but the numbers still can't satisfy the demand.

There will be a shortage of qualified people until we have imported hole Africa. So it's really the degree of the next 10 to 20 years.

>>127614666
how will graduating from law school with minimal debt lead me to greater personal autonomy?

you make no sense because you're treating fields like monoliths

i was in a position to study what i wanted as an undergrad and excelled, then entered a field which will lead me to work where I will earn more than I would have if i treated my bachelors degree like a vocational school

>>127614280
i dated a pharmacist for just under 2 years. they make "ok" money and they also have massive debt

Just get a trades apprenticeship. Work for yourself. If you work hard you can end up quite comfy.

Here's the thing - history is fascinating and important. However, you can just pick up a book and learn it yourself, in your spare time (as I do)

Bonus: you don't have any of the SJW propaganda when doing your own reading, assuming you select the right books.

>>127615714
I see, you were trying to say you were a law student by misusing that meme. Good luck, I'm sure you'll crush it bro.

>>127616173
thanks bro, good luck to you also, what field are you in?

if you greentext the meme you're signing off on behalf of the person you're referencing

if you don't greentext it you're talking about yourself

>be sheltered, naive suburban kid
>little to no guidance from teachers, family, etc.
>still being taught outdated information about how to succeed
>no life experiences other than highly structured schoolwork or maybe cuck job
>social pressure to go to college
>not really good at any subject, mostly got Bs and Cs in regular classes
>spend time in online echo chambers encouraging personal fulfillment above all else
>recall watching 90's comedies depicting college as a series of wacky hijinks
>literally not smart enough for most decent majors due to poor math background
>ok just gonna b myself :D :D :D

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>>127608305
A piece of paper makes a fine substitute for a brain.

>>127608305
because your job application will gent sent to the trash by retarded HR reps if you don't have every box checked out regardless of your actual competency in a subject. We are basically become a shithole based off an academic caste system

>>127616448
Comp sci, treated my bachelors as a vocational school & well past the point now of needing luck but thanks

>>127608305
History worthless? Only in a national-globalist world, Goldstein.

>>127616810
paying for a history degree is worthless
you can learn that shit for free, nigger

How about psychology? The science degree not the arts.

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>>127609338
Are you assuming gender shitlord?

>>127615437
its lower than suicide tier

>>127616669
i don't have a problem with that at all, I just don't like people saying that the humanities are a road to nowhere. It's completely situational. Someone who takes out 50k of debt a year to study history or english and expect to get a job is a fool. That doesn't mean that you're doomed if you study a purely academic field if it is within your means and your goals and expectations following the B.A are realistic.

This purely jobs-based approach to academia is the crux of the "everyone should go to college" argument that is creating a generation of debt slave burmese traditional folk dancing majors.

>>127608305
They have been brainwashed into thinking that they can do anything, every belief they hold has value and are special. Their brain doesn't recognize reality. If one job per 100 Gender Studies graduates was available, then that SJW knows it is it's.

>>127610444
For me it was easy, mechanical engineering was always my dream. For people with no drive to do things, or don't know what they want to do... it's harder. If you enjoy something that will get you an actual job, something like engineering, or welding, or being a mechanic, then go for it. If you are a cuck, then get real senpai.

History isn't useless if you plan on becoming a historian

I Identify as a fucking laptop transformer cat shit

bitch

>>127608305
Thats easy. Imagine you have no actual talents, work ethic, and got C's and D's in highschool because you cpuldnt be bothered to drop the bong and smartphone long enpugh to pass literally the easiest school coursework in the developed world.

You dot really have any idea WTF you are going to do with your l8fe,(hint, its gonna involve starbucks and lots and lots of welfare) no REAL institution of higher learning will take you, and if they did you wouldnt pass anyways. You arent willing to admit to yourself that you will be a nobody who serves coffee yet, and EVERYONE knows bachelors degree = instant 6 figure salary (thats what your guidance counselor said anyways.)

So you get a fake degree in a psuedo-intellectual field with no jobs or industry so you can spend 4 years in denial of your essentially worthless value to societey by spending the money the bank gave you and pretending that discussi g feminine penises and masculine vaginas on black people is somehow a substitute for productivity.

THATS why they do it.

>>127617372
Well we agree on the symptoms but I can't follow your diagnosis. If the approach to academia was actually centered around employability we wouldn't have these problems. It isn't "jobs-based", it's fucking fantasyland.

Deriding the humanities as a "road to nowhere" is a certainly blunt approach and I don't know anyone who actually, literally believes that. However I think it gets the right message across to people who haven't, as you say, taken stock of their means, goals and expectations. The truly obsessive will ignore the message anyway.

>>127608305
History is only worthless by itself.

>>127619172
If we create a climate where everyone has to go to college for employment, the stupidest will go into the easiest degrees which are ironically the least employable. Its easier to get by in a humanity than a hard science. This is why there are fake degrees rising.

Everything I want to do has no monetary value. One of those things is game design which I would think is growing but it seems like a meme.

I really wish I just didn't exist.

>>127617914
Ignore flag, im a burger, just in europe right now.

But yeah, lets not forget 30 years of highschool guidance counselors saying stuff like:
>if you dont graduate college you will be impoverished (not true, carpenters can make up to $30 an hour)
>you dont have plans for college junior??!!!! Whaddya wanna be a fuckin ditch digger? (Worked excavation for a summer as an equipment operator, made $35 an hour literally digging ditches)
>if you get a degree you will make atleast 100k a year!
>dont worry about affording it, theres scholarships and loans! (But mostly loans)

They arent actually smart enough to get a degree in something useful, they think skilled labor (which pays fuckin BANK) is beneath them, and have been brainwashed to think college is garunteed "print your own paycheck later" type set up.

So they load up on 180,000 in college debt to study why white men are bad and how the apollo crews were really black lesbians.

>>127618826
Why do you have such contempt for mediocre people just desperately trying to succeed and be happy

>>127608305

I hear from degree holders in IT and biochemistry, they're just as useless.

>>127615652
Or just have rich parents

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>>127608305
There isn't a mentality to it. It's easier to get a professor to teach degrees that don't lead to a career.

>Good teachers are usually employable in their fields
>Good fields, like computer science, offer CS professors a bigger salary to work for them rather than teach
>Universities get paid by the government based on how many students they have
>Shit fields are unemployable, therefore obtaining professors cheap isn't difficult.

>>127620469
>IT
what the fuck is an IT degree? theory courses on how to install drivers and ethernet cables?

>>127620284
Because Im in forensic science, which requires me to attend gender studies and race relations classes ((((for SOME reason))) and to a T the people pursuing those degrees are fucking worthless.

Im just tryin to do some hard science that directly helps societey and im stuck attending "white males suck 101" as a required credit.

>>127608305
It's easy to get for people who are lazy retarded pieces of shit.

It's not worthless, a lot of high end government jobs treat all 4 year degrees the same. Complete dickfaces come out of gender studies degrees and apply to manage governmental programs and they really do get the jobs.

>>127608305
most government jobs require some sort of college degree nowadays. you get that shit and you're more or less settled for life regardless of your work ethic, networking skills, etc.

>>127611269
>Physics
>God tier
Try again.

>>127620756
Then be mad at the system. Don't hate the goy who's unaware of how useless his history degree will be.

>>127615149
This is what I intend on doing. I want to go to law school and I excel at history, so I figured it was my best option.