>Looking at a nice, medium sized, 2 bedroom apartment in a

When that happens we burn their houses down

>>127529523
>new
>center of city
>overlooking beach

there's your problem anon

>>127529523

>no conifers in sight
>us$3million

not worth

>>127529687
It's the south side, not exactly near the CBD..

cant make money building housing for people who cant afford it

Right in the middle of Jew York what do u expect?

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It's true, the Hong Kong chinks have taken over my old hometown of Vancouver. Then again, this is what happens when you scare businessmen by giving Hong Kong back to China...

I heard 50% of apartments in HK are "public housing" at leasts that what all the BernieBros point to as an example of "successful urban development housing projects." Is it just commie lies?

>>127531051
Tough shit. You'll just have to make money doing something else other than your goddamn duty to society.

>>127529608
yes, comrade

Toronto home prices have jumped 30% in the past 12 months. The average home now costs something like 7x the average household income. It is getting ridiculous

>>127529523
>Vancouver, Sydney, San Francisco and London
those ain't towns for the working class

>>127532872
What makes Vancouver and Sydney so expensive? There's for all intents and purposes endless room for expansion in British Columbia, but there's no housing boom. Are banks heavily regulated or something?

>>127533272
sydney is actually the 2nd most expensive city in the world and vancouver is ranked 3rd most expensive for housing

I'm not an expert on why though

>>127533272
Vancouver is in a valley that is trapped between mountains and the ocean. It has nowhere to expand, and it is already taking over the most important farmland in the region to construct empty megamansions.

>>127532583
>apartments in HK are "public housing"
L0L inna Murika we call 'em "projects"

>>127529523
Toronto as well

>>127529523
Best time to be a real estate agent.

>Be Canada
>Small businesses fail
>Stock investment fail
>Currency is shit
>Industries like mining and oil and gas crashed
>Everything is expensive
>Everyone getting on welfare
>Let in immigrants in like a prostitute, to tax and suppress wages and inflate rental and housing prices
>Only way to make serious money is to invest in property.
>Wonder why housing prices are over 1million in vancouver./Toronto.

Yeah, the game is so fucking rigged, working towards my real estate licence now. Not like I could find honest work with my mechanical engineer serious g degree.

>>127535211
Sorry for typos. Phonephag here.

I'm just going to go into real estate and invest some money in crypto

>>127535211
I hope you're chinese or Punjabi. These fucks only use real estate agents of their own ethnicity, who specialize in catering to the new immigrants

>>127533272
I actually wondered that. Vancouver especially seems to have so much space around it.

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>Live in midwest.
>Go buy a house; 4 bedrooms, 4 bathrooms, office, basement, etc, 2400 sq ft, huge backyard, in a very nice and established neighborhood.
>$105,000.

I don't see anything wrong with the housing prices desu.

>>127535211
Real Estate people are pretty looked down on though, aren't they?

As a profession it's even regarded as being lower than HR.

>>127535211
>Going into real estate right now

The market is already bursting. The Home Capital drop in deposits is starting to freak people out
Home sales in Toronto have already plunged by 60% and people are walking away from their deposits. We're now at 2008 territory

>>127535468
I'm not unfortunately. Sad part is that I'm not even white... At least whites have a "honest" reputation.

>>127529523
sydney is FUCKED

royally FUCKED

>>127529523
Yeah, Quantitative Easing traded home ownership for a few more years of petrodollar. Bitches prefer security to freedom

>>127535949
Doesn't matter. The course is only 1000$ and if I can get to sell my parents house within 3months. That would net me around 50k.

It is fucking better than nothing or being a wage cuck engineer.

>>127529523
It's sort of a scheme to get money out of the younger generations because they aren't buying houses. Everyone's staying in cities, so land developers are compensating. I saw a Kentucky poster last night say a nice 3 bedroom home in his town was 20k. In my city a 3-person apartment runs like $2000/month per head.

Once all the boomers die there's going to be a massive amount of big houses in the suburbs up for sale--then all the millennials will move out into the suburbs leaving hundreds of apartment complexes bankrupt. The US is falling into this cycle, and I am going to love watching it crash.

>>127536805
If you have experience just move to the states. Numerous cities there are looking for engineers and since you have experience it shouldn't be hard to find work also much better wages

Or if you want to do it your way be my guess but if the market crashes then you'll be back to square one

Hawaii here, Specifically the island of Oahu

My 2 bedroom, 1,000sqft (92m square) is $2500USD a month. Most 2 bedroom houses/condos in good (not nice, good) are valued well over 1 million USD

>>127535610
Got the same thing 30 min north of Dallas for $210k. The market is great here.

I mean Texas is for cucks. No one come here. It....it sucks senpai. Feels bad man :(

>>127537304
Fuck off we're fall. You can work in Alaska if you want, the Trans-Alaskan Pipeline is falling apart.

>>127536805

Going into real estate too. Two out of six classes are done. I fell for the web development meme. After 8 years I'm done. Pajeet can do that shit.

A house just sold on my street for 3 million. Looks like I have some new chinese student neighbor.

>>127529523
>>127529608
Fuck capitalism n shit

Australia has infinite land and a tiny population and our house prices are through the roof. A small apartment in Sydney sets you back a median of $1 million, a detached home is usually closer to $2 million.

>>127537765

It's too late. The problem is you keep calling for meme careers. If it's popular by the time you're getting I to it, it's too late. You need to be ahead of the curve.

It's the fucking Chinese they come to Vancouver and buy all houses pushing the cost up to such an unaffordable leave that only other rich chinks can buy them it's fucked and Trudeau isn't doing anything Canada is becoming less and less white the more chinks come in they don't even speak English

>>127537102
Well it's kinda of expect. Did these fuccboi and Jews think it's a good idea to give everyone gender studies and then fucking raise the prices to absurdity for fucking jobs that pay minimum wages then bam! Crashes waiting to happen. And what poor Elites and whores going to do when every dollar is shit? Probaly going to do 30's style of suicide and jump out a hotel room. Also iseral will suffer as well. How you supposed to get (((((Reperations)))))) when you killed off every good country economy and the other fucking hate you? Sorry for rambling like a beta autistic fags but the words I have to say is this. You could have prevented this.

>>127537987
Nothing wrong with capitalism. Whats wrong is letting the wealth concentrate in the top. Every few generations there needs to be a shaking up, not a socialist redistribution, but a culling of useless, greedy, jewish types

>>127538297
Meant to say they.

>>127529523
stay in your own country

>>127529523
FANKS CAPITALISM
>checks flag
How are the cage cities going?

>>127538103
It's not too late for real estate. Not at all. Especially not where I'm at.

>What the fucks happening to house prices?

You happened, tell your relatives to fuck off from my country, cunt

>>127537765
Was going to fall for the web development meme as well.

At this point the only thing that brings profit is weekly trading crypto.

>>127529523
Move to monaco. let me elp you out for 3m

https://www.montecarlo-realestate.com/en/property/42957-for-sale-2-rooms-botticelli-monaco/

>>127537304
I don't have experience.

So I made up 2 years of experience and fired up over 1000 resumes without a cover letter.

I got very few callbacks. So even if I collected 2_3 years of experience it will be a struggle. The only thing that works which I have heard is having a LinkedIn profile with over 1000 connections AND experience.

>>127529523
Good luck getting anything for HK$20m in Repulse Bay lmao

>>127539139
>https://www.montecarlo-realestate.com/en/property/42957-for-sale-2-rooms-botticelli-monaco/

If you're rich you easily make that back through the tax savings

real estate is modern slavery

>5 mil for a tiny ass box in a building full of tiny box condos

>>127529523
I feel like apartments are scams.

>Home owner association
>You don't own land.

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>>127529523
>Vancouver
Vancouver and Hong Kong are the most expensive places in the world, I think.
Every house in this picture is worth over $3.6million USD.
But that's Dunbar, Westside Vancouver. But even including the ugly Eastside, the average price for a detached house in all of Vancouver is ~$1.6million USD.

>>127529523

You realize in the US alone there are 8 million Millionaires, 80% of which are first generation, in that they came from nothing and now are balling.

There are way more people who can afford stuff like this now, you're just not one of then, sort your shit out OP!

>>127532864
Meaning in only seven years the average person could pay off a whole house? Lucky you.

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>>127536785
About to cash out of Sydney and move up to Port Macquarie.

>>127535610
Will sell my 11 year old duplex (ie. half a house) in suburban Sydney for 1.6m AUD. Will buy acreage with a friggin' mansion up the coast for 900k. Retire on the rest. 40 years old. I weep for my children.

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>>127532864
That's because Vancouver imposed a 15% foreign investor tax, so the low-end people tried out the Toronto market.
2 things happened:
1. Vancouver basically made it very easy to bypass that tax, so you don't have to worry about it anymore.
2. Foreign buyers discovered that Toronto is not exactly Vancouver. If you don't HAVE to live there, why would you? And these people have enough money that they want to live somewhere beautiful like Vancouver or Zurich, and Toronto is not anything like those places.

>>127533272
>There's for all intents and purposes endless room for expansion in British Columbia,
Maybe you should check a map.
Vancouver is bordered by mountains and ocean. Where are you going to expand? lol

>>127529523
Don't live in Hong Kong, Vancouver, Sydney, San Francisco, or London. It's not like your only choice is to live in the biggest city in your country(well, I guess if you live in Hong Kong it is) or some small hick farm town. Just pick a city with like a six figure population. There you can afford a downtown condo in a tower and walk or take the bus to work, or a house in the suburbs and drive to work in like 30mins.

>>127540716
It's sort of unavoidable when you have a corporate job.

>>127529608
>>127532773
>>127537987
WAHHHHH

That person has something nicer than me.

>>127540225
>8 million Millionaires

If by millionaire you mean "having a net worth of over $1 million dollars", that's not very impressive.

Maybe they just bought a house in San Francisco for $200k 20 years ago which is now worth over a million, ever think of that

>>127532583
Asian rich countries tend to have massive public works projects

>>127540841
No one is forcing you to work that job, it's your choice to go to Hong Kong.

>>127529523

Tfw in Texas and get a well built 3,300 sq ft house in a lily white suburban neighborhood close to the water for $270K. Paid off quickly because everything else is cheap too and incomes can be comparable to expensive big cities.

Why do you people live in these shit tier places and then complain. Every faggot in california is trying to move to texas come on based northern bros, we could use you here.

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>>127529523
>What the fucks happening to house prices?
Asians

>>127540188

but thats a generic subdivision

>3.6 mil

how

>>127533932

Projects are shitty because niggers live in them. A project of all peaceful low t future oriented asians could be magical

>>127540687
On top of the low rise suburbs, obviously

>>127529523
>What the fucks happening to house prices
Too many of you. And that applies to Vancouver, Sydney, and San Francisco as well.

The number of people increases the land stays the same.

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>>127533272
Vancouver is a beautiful international resort city with low crime and a great climate, with extremely limited available land.
It's real-estate prices haven't had a link to local income for a long time.

It's literally a place FULL of people who ski, yacht, play tennis and golf, mountain-bike, garden, drive Range Rovers, Volvos, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, McLarens, Audis, Bentleys, Maseratis, Rolls-Royce, Mercedes, and when they get tired they fuck off to Hawaii for a few weeks to have a nap.

Trade and travel-wise it's significantly closer to Asia, in hours travelled, than L.A. And Canada is a very stable, modern country. Whatever happens to Canadian real-estate, Vancouver won't be badly affected; it's a completely different situation.

>>127529523
i bought a moderately run down 3 story 6 bedroom house on 7 acres that was about $30k
being i am a man with actual skills i will fix this bitch up in no time.

>>127538006
i really hated australia for this reason
and others
but especially this reason
once i got to a certain age it was just obvious that australia is a sinkhole for debt and credit loops

>>127540480

>Be australian
>try to retire at 40 on 700k emu dollars liquid and upkeep on 900k emu dollar house
>interest rates what are those?

>>127541609
Where did you buy?

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>>127541814
ass fuck nowhere.
just how its supposed to be

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>>127541274
Dunbar is a 100-year old neighbour in Vancouver. It's not a subdivision.
$3.6 million is the average.
There are houses from $2.2millionUSD to $56million+ USD. (But nothing less than $2.2, and that would be lot value only for a slightly smaller than average lot. Condos are, idk really, but I guess $1.5million and up, on the Westside.)

>>127541048

>having net worth of $1mm is not impressive
>says local barista

>>127541609
L.I.A.R. there aren't 3 story single wides unless you stacked them.

>>127529523
Wealthy neighborhoods in big 1st world cities have always been expensive. This thread is bullshit. Sage.

>>127537102
This. It will be a boon in the long run for the younger generations.

Which is why we're all mostly living with our parents and family and saving money for when that DOES finally happen.

I can't wait for a 5k dollar 2 bed 1 bath house in the country side desu senpai. Already dropping low in some rural areas.

>>127541423
Good point. Densification is already happening along main corridors. Recent land assemblies in East Van (the ugly part) see houses valued at $1.1 million USD being bought out at $3.4million USD.

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>>127542043
kek.
its a victorian style "farmhouse"

>>127541499
Did you just say Vancouver is closer to Asia than it is to Los Angeles?

>>127537102
>>127538297
>>127542066
I hope you're not counting on that, because it's not going to happen. Unless you want to live in places like Detroit.

>>127541913

it's still crazy, no houses in the photo look like an estate

it's an overpriced subdivision

>>127529523
that sure looks like a picture of Waikiki

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>>127529523
>pretty soon no one will be able to afford a house except for the top 1%.
that's (((their))) plan bro. the real estate jews have always had a strong game all over the world.

>>127535610
congrats, now you live in literally where: the state.

>>127542550
I'm not sure if you're being serious but Waikiki would have much nice water than that.

>>127532583
Yea 'public housing' with suicide nets, and the only doors at the bottom go straight into the factory.

>>127540480
I wanna buy acreage on the coast too but I don't have some over priced house to sell to buy it :(

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>>127542400
No, sorry.
What I meant is that for shipping goods, and for people who travel between North America and Asia for whatever reason*, it is much better in terms of time-saved to go Asia-Vancouver than Asia-Los Angeles.
Vancouver-to-LA is less than 3 hours. (By plane, obviously.)

*frequently, with rich Asian families the mother and kids will move to Vancouver because it is a nicer place to live than China, has better education, health, etc. The husband will allegedly stay in China and run his business and entertain mistresses.

>>127532583
Yeah and desu they're pretty alright.

Some can be grotty but others decent. Plus there's no real crime or anything because most people here are very law abiding.

foreign investment is driving up house prices.

to much competion = high prices.

in australia, the chinese are happy to pay 10% more than the purchase price, just so they get the house.

then they sit on them as investments and they stay vacant, they dont rent them out.

in melbourne, there is an estimated 80,000 houses/units/apartments/townhouses vacant, owned by foreign investors, mainly chinese.

>>127543125
>they dont rent them out.

What's the point in that?

>>127529523
>>127531051
housing prices are affected by location, numbnuts. 3 million dollars could get you like 500 acres out in the middle of nowhere.

>>127542955
:-(

>>127543220
It's a way to siphon dirty money out of China and launder it. Further, it pushes values up even more (limits usable housing supply), so you still turn a profit by doing nothing.

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>>127542474
lol
Well call it a subdivision if you want, and you can call a sandwich a trombone. It's simply not a subdivision, bro.
And I didn't say most of these houses are "estates", I said they worth $2.2million USD at the low end, to ~$56million USD at the high end.

You pay $$$$$ because:
>>127541499

>>127529523
Mexicans think nothing of living 5+ earners in a house, and receive rent-aid and food-aid.

Landlords raise price to what the market can bear.

5 mexican families earn enough to rent a million dollar house in santa barbara or san francsico, no problem.

Landlords love it, their property goes up and they can move to a new better neighborhood.

>>127543475
There's a $50,000 yuan overseas investment cap on Chinese mainlanders now so you guys are in luck.

>>127543324
Where are you looking that acreage near port macqaurie gets up to $900k though? It all seems far cheaper than that.

>>127543220

i have no idea. the chinese are buying them and no renting them out.

they dont want australians living in their houses in australia.

but you'll get the odd one that will be packed full of bunk beds. housing 30 people in the one house.

living like insects, paying AUS$150-200 per week for 2m square spot on the floor. lol

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tfw mom bought land in a seattle suburb 15 years ago for 40,000 and now it is worth 2 mil

tfw mom bought me a condo 9 months ago for 135 and now it is worth 165

feels goodman

>>127543591

doesnt stop them from applying for loans here, they pay it off with their dirty money.

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>>127543781

>>127543862

i should add the neighborhood my mom lives in is almost completely inhabited by chinks now

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>>127543862
You must be really proud of yourself. She must, too.

>>127544208

t-thanks

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Prices are just as crazy in Sweden. House Index price per year.

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>>127542474
here's an aerial view of Dunbar and Point Grey, in Vancouver (neither one is a subdivision thoug, lol). The big green patch is Pacific Spirit Park, it's more than twice as big as NYC's Central Park.
At the top pf the photo is University of British Columbia. The rest is ocean.

>>127541915
>having net worth of $1mm is not impressive

Not really no, not in places where a detached house costs more than that. Just like how a $100k salary isn't very impressive in Silicon Valley.

>>127544461
do you have a similar graph for migrant arrival?
be interesting to see how they compare. I understand private companies are making a fortune off the taxpayers by providing housing for migrants. "Unaccompanied Minors" being the most most lucrative group, almost a licence to print money.

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>>127544461
But there are still some fun properties to buy.

>$250k
>~400 000 sqf

But it was a real fixer upper.

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>live in a nice municipality
>still live with my parents
>house for sale in my street
>420k
>affordable houses are in shitskin territory or close to the French border(high crime)

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>>127529523
>>127529608
>>127529809

Just face it, Dim Sum, your country is overcrowded. A little bit of culling and population control will solve all your problems.

>>127544750
They are placed mostly outside in the country where housing is cheap. The prices that are rocketing is for larger cities (Stockholm, Gothenburg, Malmo).

For numbers, before the iraq war the only large influx after WWII was the Balcan conflict which brought about 100k in 1991 and again 1992.

>>127540480
can I come live with you fellow ausbro? we can ride emus and box kangaroos yes?

>>127540593
Gotta love the use of shell companies to get around it

>>127545553
Yes. There will be plenty of room and a pool.

>>127544902

the fuck is that, batman's lair?

>>127544514

ubc you mean "u be chinese"

>>127545782
it's a bit of a drive but I'm on my way. I'll be there tomorrow. just let me get my 24h energy shots.

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>>127545670
don't even need shell companies:

"...the BC government is making changes to the foreign buyers tax.

It now says workers coming to BC through the Provincial Nominee Program can now be exempt from the additional property transfer tax. Any who purchased a principal residence on or after August 2nd, 2016 will be able to apply for a retroactive exemption.

The BC Liberals say the move is to make sure highly skilled workers and entrepreneurs aren’t shut out."

"workers" sure af doesn't mean baristas and waiters. It means anyone whose lawyer can show they did some work here, I'm guessing.

Principal residence doesn't mean your principal residence on Earth, just Vancouver, I'm 99% sure. So if you need a $6million place for you wife and kid, it's in her name. You want another for investment? It's in your name. Another, it's in one of the kids' names, etc.

>>127546217
'University of a Billion Chinese' as its called here.

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>>127544902
It's literally from Spirited Away
wtf

>>127535690
You must be in very swanky circles. Real estate is not looked down upon like being a low level HR person is. I do know a lot of people making money disproportionate to their intelligence in real estate though, so I get that.

Also, all real estate agents are fucking obnoxious douchebags who feel the need to brag about their deals and talk about money nonstop, much unlike people who are truly in the top of success and income earning

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I dont give a fuck, my family has 3 condo's in Vancouver, 2 of them I am renting and the other is our principle.

I will inherit these condos and make a good shekel from the Canadian goyim.

>>127546300

to be fair uoft was just as bad

fucking pathetic how foreigners get more priority than citizens.

>>127529523
Millions of people squeezed into the size of my small town of 350 people.

>>127546562
Don't those foreign students pay 3x your fees though?

GOOKED

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>>127544461
Same shit in Norway, but worse. Top is real estate prices.

>>127546614

I dont care if they pay 1000x as much

they dont deserve all the slots they get. go to ping pong university. I dont come to your house and shit on your floor, do i?

there should be a small, hard cap on international students.

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>>127546614
Either way, citizens should be top priority.
If foreign students are displacing Canadian students someone should be making some fucking noise about that.
>>127546482
Where are your condos? (Neighbourhood, no need to be specific)

>>127546482
You'll still be a Chink lol

>>127529523
Supply & demand. Rules for any pricing. You can't lower the price unless you increase supply or lower the demand.

I want the market to collapse so bad

but only after I sell a piece of land in a prime area that I have

after that? fuck everyone.

>>127541271
WTF is wrong with her face?!

>>127529809
That's Repulse Bay isn't it?
It's a fucken nice spot. Not like it takes a particularly long time to get to the CBD either. I'd suck a lot of dick to live there.

>>127547499
>I'd suck a lot of dick to live there.
Doing just that you might afford it. Emphasis on the "a lot".

>>127547499
Yep it is and it takes like 30-40 minutes to get to Central - there's only 1 winding road which goes through wong nai chung gap. So if you live there the commute in the morning can be pretty shitty.

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>>127546837
>Where are your condos? (Neighbourhood, no need to be specific)

One is in West End Downtown near Robson St

One is on Cambie Street a couple blocks from City Hall

One is on False Creek walking distance to Yale Town.

I'm gonna bank so much when I inherit these places, renting out the west end and false creek places already nets my family $5600 a month after tax.

>>127546832
lol 2008 just stagnated the prices for a while

muh crisis

>>127547499

Repulse bay is fucking shit and its filled with arrogant rich cunts with equally obnoxious kids that need a good beating.

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>>127546108
A decommissioned cold war air command center, been renovating it for the last 2.5 years.

>>127529523
Over here a massive amount of chinks are soaking up properties worth ~1M. I suspect they all make money scamming and ripping people off back home and then invest in real estate where it's worthwhile.

Why don't you just give up on this shit? Believe me all you need is a small studio for rent. Just relax and live your life. Let others participate in the rat race

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>>127548035
That's fucking awesome.

>>127548292

Living a frugal life riding a bike everywhere gets tiring after the age of 35 when you just want to relax in a nice environment and get your dick sucked.

>>127545102
>or close to the French border(high crime)
Pure coincidence.

>>127548292
Don't worry, Hans. We have all the refugees we need to pay for your pension.

>>127536799
"Quantitative Easing" is this just NWO speak for bailing out big business/banks?

>>127529523
>apartment
>comfy

You must be autistic

>>127543548
t. china man buying your country up.

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>>127547764
All three of those are great locations. Congrats, you'll do very wellBig new development planned for near your False Creek place:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/false-creek-is-vancouvers-next-generation-of-building/article35142257/

That can only help you out, bro.
You going to stay there, or move here?

>>127549530
Chinese aren't the only ones, plenty of Canadians, Brits, Swiss, and Americans doing it, too.

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>>127548035
Looks like a good place to put some migrants.

>>127550566

vancouver is a chinese colony

who are you fooling

>>127547364
>her

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>>127539218
>not having a linkedin profile with over 1,000 connections

>>127540391
Yes of course! Who needs food, utilities, or gasoline?

>>127529523
** SPOILER ALERT **

It's not sustainable.

>implying the houses wont be sold to immigrants
>implying apartments wont be filled with immigrants

>>127541864
Do you have an affinity for wal mart?

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At least I have a nice apartment in Ma Wan, even if it's a little cramped.

>>127547887
I know right. But I think the bubble is close to popping, for real now. All the overinflated markets have seen small price reductions now in 2017, including Norway.

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>>127538006
That's what happens when you try to copy the american dream of the happy automobile utopia.

>>127556169
Its not yet, there is nothing to trigger a global crisis yet.
Even debt ridden Italy stabilized for now.

Predictions for when/how the housing bubble will crash?

>tfw want to get out of my shit country
>tfw everywhere the real estate prices are higher
:(

>>127556861
As I said, real estate prices are dropping. Maybe you're right, perhaps the market collapses when QE4 gets initiated.

>>127529523

Ever stop to think it's because of all these shitskins they keep importing? The prices keep going up to keep them out. Why are you people so fucking dumb.

>>127557025
Probably within the next 2 years, the housing bubble collapse will be the result of a credit crunch when the consumer debt becomes too high to bear financing the interest. When people have to take out Visas to pay their MasterCard, and MasterCards to pay their Visa, that's when you know that the collapse is imminent.

>>127529523
You sell and move to a cheaper but nice area and spend the rest of your life shitposting on 4chan all day in your undies whilst eating cereal. It's what I did.

Governments create one-size-fits-all centralized regulations which drives people to gather in specific points of the map and removes any incentive to living off the grid. Same taxes everywhere.

Demand for apartments grow in cities, and at the same time supply is stagnated when not completely blocked by government regulations/licenses. Land is hoarded by government and expropriated continuously to reduce supply even further.

Savings are devalued through money printing and low interest rates.

All these policies force people to get loans and be dependent on banks if they want a house, and who controls banks?

That's right.

Central banks and regulations are tools of the jew to control the economy. Become fucking libertarians already?

>>127557226
I doubt immigration is much of an impact on real estate prices, at least not on a national level. Foreign "investment", aka chinese investors is what is increasing prices so much within the downtowns.

Because in america, suburban real estate prices are actually quite low because of all the leftover supply from pre-recession.

>>127532864
7 years is good.

>>127529523
>doesn't earn $300k+ a year

Must suck to be you

>>127557552
It means you'd have to spend ALL of your money on the house for 7 years. I guess it works if you live in your mom's basement and don't have to pay for anything.

>>127532864
>Not living in your mom's basement and buying a house in 7 years

>>127557674
Yeah. How stupid can people be to not understand this? Literally second grade math.

Average house is 750k while the average income is like 50k/year in my area. Not sure how that even works. You cant even pay the mortgage on that salary let alone afford to live

>>127557674
So, if you live of half of your income, that's 14years

>14 year mortgage

Baby boomers would jump all over that. The avg mortgage is 20years

>>127529523
that's why we need another war to thin the herd
or at least cause another panic sell

>>127529523
>What the fucks happening to house prices?

All the bitching you see about how easy the older generation had it?
This is why. They bought their property at reasonable prices, and then they lobbied hard to have it increase tenfold so they can retire on that money.

>>127533272
Sydney's housing prices is a combination of urbanisation and the result of 'negative gearing' and an unregulated housing investment market.

Basically the majority of the jobs and infrastructure is located around the city, so naturally people want to live near where the work and entertainment is. (pretty normal for most cities)

The kicker though, is negative gearing and the unregulated investment market. Basically - the city is already fairly saturated property-wise, not much room for development in the city, but investors buy 7, 8, 20 however many investment properties they can. (The negative gearing is using the capital from one property to obtain loans for another) These investors only really want to break even on mortgage repayments for these properties, and often only repay the interest on the mortgages. But they take up the property "supply", and drive up the prices of the market, and they make large returns when re-selling a property once the prices have risen. Its a vicious circle.

I have mates in 'Sydney' that had to buy property 2hours drive away from the city to get a reasonably priced property (400k)

>>127557910
25 years. So sawerey my Asian fweind

>>127540391
Gas yourself

>>127558025
t. armchair venture capitalist

>inb4 not a rebuttal

I agree.

>>127540869
there's being able to have a better life then others through your hard labor, intelligence, hell even luck

then there's these cheating fucks. Learn the difference you dumb fuck

>>127531527
No, this is what happens when white people get mentally cucked and let non-whites take over like little bitches.

>>127541791
do you even math?
If fellow aus-anon buys the house outright, there would only be land and council rates which are negligable - assuming no other debts, even if he put the 700k at %6 at the bank, which is a fairly small return, would still make 42k a year from the 700k just sitting there... 42k a year is well enough to live off if you have no debts. Most full-timers barely make 42k a year

>>127537987
>ridiculous housing regulations
>supply artificially suppressed through city planning
>building industry is notorious for cartels
>capitalism

>>127558645
>6% a small return
>Getting 6% on less than a million
You aint gettin more than 4% unless you want to freeze it for 10 years or something.

>>127529523
Same shit in Moscow. But if you're in debt - you're basically a slave. Governments and bankers have every incentive to have that chain on your neck, so they regulate the market in the worst possible way for the regular people.

>>127529523
Just buy a cheap house in Australia

>>127559115
>cheap house
>australia

Maybe in WA former mining ghost towns

>he moved out of his parents house
>he fell for the college meme

TOP KEK

>>127535690
Real Estate cunts are trash-tier for the most part

But it's easy money in a market where all you have to do is post an ad online and whack a "for sale" sign out front and the offers roll in.

Not like they need to do any serious work and it pays well with the absurd prices everything sells for so they can afford to be cunts about it.

desu I want the bubble to pop just to see thousands of them get shit on when their gravy train derails

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>>127529523
>What happened?

In this order

>Kikes pushed too much debt from their kike debt industry

>Boomers swallowed the kool aid and think house prices are down to their "hard work"

>Boomers are the most important voter demography in the west. More of them, more likely to vote. As such politicians rarely do anything to piss them off

>Government (of boomers) refuse to restrict the kike debt peddlers, love the votes of boomers happy to see house inflation rise incessantly (due to excess credit)

>Gen x, y millennials all at the bottom of the debt pyramid paying greater share of their (diminishing) wages than any boomer did, whilst contending with globalisation and mass shitskin immigration.

Ultimately prices are set at the margins, meaning it's an arms race with debt, keep borrowing more only inflates prices necessitating more debt.

Real Estate developer in San Francisco/Bay Area checking in.

UN Agenda 21->SB375-> One Bay Area
Shrunk the building envelope in an effort to push people into stack and pack housing near transit corridors.

Development in San Francisco takes 2+ years to get through the city. That is 2 years of processing cost/labor plus carrying costs. Have NIMBLY throwing up every roadblock. Hell, paid someone $100k in 'straight cash homie' to move out, had them come back a year later contesting the project with the city and put the project on hold for 8 months.

East Bay is no better. Literally had a planner in Oakland tell me to not call him as he has worked there 30 years, doesn't answer his phone, and hasn't checked his voicemail. 3 month planning application took 12 months.

Literally 100s of thousand of dollars down the drain before you can put a shovel in the ground.

Then you have Texas where you walk in, pay a $90 fee and build away....

>>127538323
>Every few generations there needs to be a shaking up, not a socialist redistribution, but a culling of useless, greedy, jewish types
We used to have the occasional recession or market crash or whatever to help that along but cunts turned to mass immigration (and China's insanity) to dodge the few times boomers and their wealth should have taken a good hit

>>127560906

>Real Estate developer

what does the "developer" part means?

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I don't get it when white Canadians hate Chinese for increasing the value of real estate in Vancouver, we are actually benefiting Vancouver:

>Building new business's, offices, commercial hubs.
>Sky scrapers
>We're putting it on the fucking map
>Huge cashflows and foreign investment into the city
>Make the place more upscale and beautiful
>Because of high prices and rents, it kicks out all the undesirables that don't work and/or are a threat to the safety of society.

The only reason why the White people complain is because the vast majority of them spend all their money on avocado toast instead of investing it in real estate or other forms of passive income streams.

Yeah, the white people look all nice and tan sitting in those beach front restaurants (that are there due to Chinese investments) slathering olive oil all over their avocado toast and laughing at all the scrawny nerd Asians, but we are the ones that walk away with the money.

>>127561051
Developing real estate of course. Building neighborhoods.

>>127561051

Own a vertically integrated company that buys, processes, developed (GC), and then sells (RE license) property.

Generally 65% returns even with the BS in the area.

Then again, it forces me to put the most expensive product I can possibly imagine back in to recoup costs and pay of O&P.

Hell, had to write a $800k check to a city for 'affordable housing' because I didn't want to build any. And the crazy thing is that it is the most profitable path even when the money just vanishes into the either.

>>127561219

oh

we mortals know it as being a "construction worker/businessman"

>>127561197
The city was better before the growth. Now it's an ugly place that looks like it was built with cheat mode in SimCity. Just monotonous class condos.

Remember this, GDP growth does not mean GDP per capita.

>>127529523
>right next to a fucking on-ramp

>>127561312
No, I don't mean it in that way. I mean the people that invest in developments, people that own the lots and sell them.

>>127561312

Think over the top of all of that.

>>127561363
That's not a ramp. It's just a regular road. Probably low traffic.

>>127561197

I guess it have something to do with the locals not wanting to live in an overpriced Chinese colony and instead preferred the none-hive city planning.

>>127561322

>The city was better before the growth.

It really depends on your perspective, I perceive it to be a waste of space filled with low density housing, its a port city; it was only a matter of time before modernity will reach it.

I still get hateful glares from the old-timeys that lived through that sleepy era of Vancouver, but guess what-- these people and their offspring are typically the ones that know next to nothing about the outside world and have this sick sort of naivity to them that is actually harmful for everyone.

>>127543591
easily bypassed through shell companies and other shady shit

if there's one thing chinks excel at it's shady shit

>>127529523
Maybe it's the fault of your emigrating successful countrymen who go to Europe, to Canada and America, wherever the western culture and money is.
Of course they figure that if all successful Chinamen do this, they can make money off of their own property by jacking up demand like they're doing right now.

>>127561575
It is up to the locals to decide if the city was better before or not. Not up to you.

>>127561380
>>127561399

so it's just like being a professional trust fund child but you also build instead of only managing?

>>127561498

It's not a Chinese colony at all, there are many rich and successful Whites and other ethnicity that live in Vancouver, all even distributed.

Those rich and successful Whites don't want anything to do with the stoner whites.

>>127561498

In the US, there are things like SB375 (UN Agenda 21) in California which specifically designed to push people into stack and pack housing by shrinking the building envelope.

>>127543862
>tfw mom bought land in a seattle suburb 15 years ago for 40,000 and now it is worth 2 mil
this is how nearly every boomer came into their wealth yet they screech at the rest of us as if we're stupid for not being the property investing geniuses they are

>>127561665

Yeah. Creating a business plan, going out, raising capital, paying investors dividends...

Yes, like a 'trust fund' child.

>>127561656

Times change and it was the Provincial government that wanted the change.

Despite the protest from a vocal minority, the vast majority of "locals" (which perhaps in your mind, means only White people), welcome the change and enjoy the new variety of cuisines, shops and growth that the city is having.

The ones haven't made it are the ones that chose to sit on their hands and fume about how they cant ride their horses around Stanley Park anymore.

>>127561797

construction companies do that also -- I'm trying to see the difference here or if it's just another name for the same bird

>>127561197
Some investing is fine, but it's at the point where it's being abused. The thing that really bothers me is all the empty homes. Just rent that shit out

>>127561937

I think it's a bit unfair given that these new buyers don't pay the Canadian tax weight.If you're gonna have a welfare state you should at least shield your citizens from foreign capital.

>>127561834
Go back to le ddit. You seem to belong there more than here.

>>127561876

Difference between being a construction company and a company that buys/owns the land, processes it, and build it/scale.

Mom & Pop Construction Co. doing one or two off infill projects and buying 80 acres, subdividing it, getting a tentative/final map, and building it out/bidding out as a master plan community.

>>127529523
youre in hong kong, one of the highest demand, lowet supply regions in the world. steal some land of the chinese or something

>>127562295

I know things in Europe move really slowly but over in the New World the Europeans do not belong there either, the Whites in Vancouver do not belong there any more than the Chinese do and as far as I have observed, it's the Chinese that's doing all the planning and thinking in Vancouver.

The vast majority of Whites did nothing to better their own situation, their attitude is akin to the nature loving natives picking berries and preferring to walk bare feet on the rocks rather than glide on the tarmac.

>>127529523
Did anyone here vote for a candidate who supported affordable housing? No? Then stop asking why real estate prices are going so high.

>>127562490

so when a construction company starts sprawling into the other branches of the real state chain, besides the construction part, it becomes a real state developer?

I work in the financial markets. It isn't just China, but there has been a huge influx of "overseas money" being thrown into the US in real estate. There are two reason why.
1) First if you are a trust fund baby and have lots of cash real estate provides insane diversification benefits.
2) Foreign investors earn two types of return by investing in the US, a) The return on the assets and b) FX return on the strong dollar.

Because of these factors the US housing market has become a great source of investments for people looking to park their cash. Now the bad news it fucks over the little guys because its distorting all the home prices, which is why first time home buyers are at an all time low.

>>127562739
I did. Fuck Clark.

>>127562709

There's something called government regulations in the west.

If some Canadian could put a bunch of Inuit working in semi-slavery for him while spewing tons and tons of fume into the Vancouverite sky, I bet they could compete with the Chinese buying power.

>>127562925

Think all aspects of the cycle before a construction company gets involved.

Like taking a hillside that is privately owned. Go to a city. Get it subdivided. Ect.

>>127532864
>getting
Shall I tell you how much a house in Vancouver was going for when I contemplated moving up there in the late 1990s? Victoria, too?

Nah, I don't want to be responsible for your an hero. Suffice to say this is insane, and we are being infiltrated and taken over by Chinese communism on one side and European communism/globalism and Islamism on the other side. We're fucked. If we don't purge the traitors and fight back, our civilization is doomed. Wake the fuck up you useful idiots.

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>>127561197
Younger Canadians with no inherited wealth will obviously complain when they can't buy a house or get into uni.
When their parents could do all that with half the effort.
Chinks are still fine imo, wish our only problem we're rich Chinese buying our houses.
Nothing is worse than having a gov that willingly spends more on rapefugees than our military.
It's Anarcho communism, this is what happens when you have it too good. You import problems because too little problems.

>>127563260
I was thinking of nuclear contamination or perhaps a devastating earthquake. But after an earthquake prices would start to go up quickly.

>>127529523
Real estate fag here.
Where I live, we are seeing terrible inactivity in the housing market, as well. But prices are relatively stagnant.

Housing prices are always higher in cities, but there is currently a huge divide, larger than we've seen in the past. It's all a bubble, of course, and it will collapse again just as soon as they price themselves out of the market.
What most do not understand is, when your working class cannot find decent-paying employment, the base of your economic pyramid is corroding. Sure, your debt-fueled stock may be rising, and it seems you're getting wealthier, but you tend not to notice that the only contracts your companies have are contracts where the money originates with government spending, also all debt-fueled.
But you need something to do with those shekels, so you and your "rich" pals all buy houses & rental properties...then you charge higher and higher rents to cover the cost.
But you then find that the people you would normally rent to have not seen a significant pay raise since the mid-70's, and they can't afford your rent...so you see them living in cheap, ancient apartment ghettos more and more, while you need to charge higher and higher rates to your remaining tenants due to vacancy rates...and even more renters leave...
Eventually, your cities start to look like Mexiico City, with a small area that is actually first-world, but an enormous ring of hovels and huts with millions of people, the bulk of the city's population, living in the only squalor they can afford.
We've not reached that point yet, but it's where we're heading.
When the blocks of your economic pyramid collapse at the bottom, the successive rows above collapse in turn.
Our richfags seem to think the blocks at the top hold up the pyramid, not the other way around, and it will destroy this nation.

Tariff imports, force industry to return, limit immigration of any kind, and you will create a demand for workers that will force wages up.

>>127563544
Anarcho tyranny*

>>127535610
Just wait. They're already coming. The Chinese real estate investors are ravaging the west coast. They're even buying up shitty ghetto properties and holding them to fuck up the market further. Just wait, they'll get to you too.

>>127563630
Are they pushing out the niggers and spics?

>>127563260

Chinese people in Canada adhere and respect the same laws as the White Canadians do.

Its just Chinese are just more hard working and successful, its the same as giving the same IQ test between a White and a Chinese, it's usually the case the Chinese will surpass the White.

I don't know why Whites call it a colonization; it's just a visible minority of people that just so happens to be more successful then they are.

It's really quite pathetic.

>>127540480
I'd buy more land, less house, and make sure your retirement funds are really fucking diversified (and NOT in real estate bonds or investments.) Also I'd work for a few more years if I were you, at least some kind of income would help. Otherwise that retirement ain't gonna be so comfy.

>>127532583
kek
I've visited Hong Kong...did Bernie mention the scrap-built huts inhabited by squatters in the middle of suburban areas?
Yea, I thought not...

>>127563705

They live in Canada but their money comes from the third-world

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Because London invited the entire world to buy proeprty which means the worlds richest 1% buy up everything, they literally buy it and leave it empty and never use it.

>>127529523
It's what happens when you insects flood the housing markets and overpay for shitty properties for your 1000 kids

>>127529523
House prices here have shot up retardedly. I live well over an hour from toronto and was simply lucky enough to buy a home a few years ago before shit got really pricey.

Things have slown down the last week or so and many people are starting to panic as there is a massive supply ofhomes on the market as people "cash out" and even the chinks cant buy enough to make up for the supply

>>127563705
You don't factor in the shady business that is communist China. Many of the chinks who come to Australia or Canada have ties to the party.
Not talking about Hong Kong , but they are fewer.
IQ is useless if you don't have creativity, every formulae you use at University was either invented by a German or Brit.
Next time I hear some chinese who has a higher IQ than Leibniz or Newton I will flip.
Training for an IQ test isn't an achievement and we know you either train for it or cheat at it.
Only trustworthy Asians are japanese, rest cheats like crazy.

wait for baby boomers to die off. The meaning of "excess inventory" will never be the same.

China's retarded housing bubble will burst soon.

you people are doomed

if you've ever been to mainland china, you did know that chinks are the closest thing to a human hive-mind.They literally have no thoughts or desires.

>>127564175
True but we have technocrats like Zuckerberg who will continue some type of legacy of excess.

>>127529687
You can buy houses in my area for $150,000-300,000
But its not beach front property

>>127532583
Bernie bros are retarded

>>127538139

Literally the same is happening in New Zealand. Especially in Auckland.

>>127533932
Thdy live in kennel cages in china or warehouse tables

>>127558025
Mostly correct, particularly seeing as Aus has a 200k per year immigration intake, mostly going to Syd and Melb. But what you are saying is negative gearing is just equity. Negative gearing is tax write offs on an investment loss, on average it means you can write of about 1/3 of the mortgage repayments because the rent you were collecting didn't fully cover them. Good for renting bad for buying.

There are also overseas investors buying up properties using loopholes, like sending their kid to school here and using them as a proxy.

>>127529523
It's a bubble.

>higher house prices
>pushes out poorfags
>poorfag landlords see demand increase
>poorfag landlords increase rent
>pushes out poorfags
>poorfag landlords have empty properties & mortgages to pay
>poorfag landlords can't meet mortgage and so bank takes ownership of houses
>banks offer risky loans and mortgages to poorfags to make profit on empty properties
>poorfags have a little more cash now they're not being raped out of it
>poorfags piss away cash; local retail prices go up
>most poorfags can't meet rent/mortgage and get evicted
>banks aren't turning a steady and consistent profit and so foreclose the properties on the cheap to rehousing projects
>rehousing projects fix up the place and big gov puts in poorfags on the public's dime
>poorfags are living on the gov teet and don't maintain their properties
>neighbourhood goes to shit
>high crime
>wealthy people move the fuck away to another county
>immigrants storm in by boat
>unrecoverable

Bubbles...

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>>127563705
Whites have gotten lazy, it's true.
They ignore the natural abilities they've been granted, as they can usually succeed with a minimum of effort, and so eschew the idea of utilizing their full potential, both intellectually and physically, to excel.

What it takes is discipline, but easy living has made that seem unnecessary. The Chinese have come from a more competitive and less forgiving economic environment, so they still have this drive.

The discipline of the Nazis created magnificent marvels in just a few short years, which is why the Jews became scared & kept pushing the idea of genociding the Germans, before the Germans became so advanced & powerful they couldn't be stopped, and the rest of the white goys realized German discipline was the best course, and followed suite.
Then the whites would shoot ahead of the rest of mankind like a rocket, solidifying a leadership that could be sustained.
Nazi discipline is the key to whites utilizing their entire potential, and even today the media kikes keep doing all they can to keep whites from excelling, by promoting intellectual laziness as "cool," and physical prowess as only possessed by "stupid" whites (note they do not imply this in any other race, just whites).

Remember, always do the opposite of what Jews say.

>>127561758

Yep i know this boomer that bought two sets of taxi plates back in like the 1980s for $3000 and sold them last year for over $300,000. He was dribbler on a production line, got a near $300,000 redundancy package when the factory closed down and used to fucking go on about how "kids today don't know how to invest".

>>127565262
People like to take credit for their ancillary successes, but, in reality, success is 50% networking & 50% luck.

I've seen people do everything right, excel in school, make no enemies, win awards, & work hard, only to have BAD luck wipe them out.

When things go wrong due to bad luck, we acknowledge it was bad luck...when things go right due to good luck...well, that's all ME, of course...

>>127548255
lots of chinks buy new developments in the US because it's an easy way into an investor visa - they put $500k or $1mm into a company and a green card is in the mail

>>127537506
Hush. Promote Texas any more we'll get more Commie Califags coming in with their SJW BS.

>>127561302
> 65% returns
> forces me to put the most expensive product i can possibly imagine back in

sounds like greed. who the fuck gets 65% returns in business.

>>127563705
whites have gotten lazy. it's true.

(im white, businessperson.)

>>127561363
Regular road mate.

> he doesn't know living on the street is the redpilled way of life

>>127568151

People live on the streets in Switzerland? Stop it, you're ruining my daydream.

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>>127542687
Underrated post.

Anything China touches is corrupted.

>>127568151
If I knew how to get girls without a house and money, I would totally be homeless.
This sexual frustration, created civilisation.

>>127531174
that's not ny you fucking nip

>>127547364
HER face?

>>127541864
except it only looks like that 3 months a year

9 months a year is cold, wet, grey, overcast

makes you want to kill yourself after about 4 months of that