Why do liberals want to eliminate the right of parents to di

Because the state owns your kids.

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yes , we should be aloud to fill their heads with lies to.

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how we used to put manners on them kids

you goy will never understand

>>127429595

That's clearly just hitting her because he can.

That's fucked up.

In psychology class we were taught that such punishments could work if they were not done in the heat of the moment and out of anger but that rarely happens.

This is really fucked up that they can't communicate to their daughter without words.

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>>127429595

>>127429877

What happened to "whatever happens behind closed doors is none of your business"?

>>127430039

this

>>127429595
I AM DIAMONDS DESU, SAUCE?

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Convert to the Islam and liberal restrictions on righteousness get annulled.

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The judge was arrested for that, btw

>>127429595
this shit is old as fuck m8

>>127430179
Search up "Daddy Howard Hyatt"

>>127430042
Reality and cameras?

There is nothing wrong with few slaps, but this shit is stright up pathology

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>>127430042
>My property means I don't get to follow the law on it
>People shouldn't be concerned about the well being of a child

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>>127429595
>implying liberals dont ignore the topic of spanking like the plague so they dont trigger all the victims of child abuse who defend it of every political variety

>>127430448
Desciplining and the upbringing of a child is the sole responsibility of the parent

>>127430448
>i'm not allowed to determine how best to raise my child

millenial logic

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>>127429595
I would mess with my father's playboys just to get a good, hard spank. I fucking loved being disciplined.

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I want to put my face up there

Even better that it's 13

>>127430519
Correlation=/=causation. That graph shows that low IQ parents are more likely to spank their kids

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>>127430624

>>127430624
Faggot GTFO weirdo

>>127429595
Some people over do it. Sometimes there's permanent damage. There's a thin line and we must be very careful of how much power we give them. Once we give them the power anyone can use it and not necessarily the way we want them to.

One time I was working with this Pakistani and he told me he can do whatever he wants with his kids, with regards to beating them. The guy was a lawyer in his home country. I suppose he was right....

>>127430758
>the way we want them to
>we

who cares what you want?

>>127430280
But but i dont like to rape , it feels strange and un natural for some reason.
And i dont goats they smell of shit.

>>127430758
>There's a thin line


This was fucking child abuse, plain and simple. I feel like driving there right now and kicking the shit out of this fuck.

>>127430574
most parents have no idea how to raise a child. it's just happened to them that they have a child.
most people can't even handle a cat or a dog properly.

>>127430866
You like to rape humanity as a whole, yahoodi.

>>127430931
>i want to assault someone who is teaching their own child right from wrong and that consequences exist

are you going to raise the child yourself afterwards? pay for college? support for the rest of it's life?

no?

then stfu faggot

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>>127429595
>>127429595

I am okay with tasteless physical discipline, but many parents fail to realize when the physical discipline goes beyond real punishment and into a form of self-gratification.
This is self-gratification and abuse. She is not learning anything from it, that much is certain.
In fact, more than anything, this kind of discipline builds a HEAVY barrier between parent and child and deteriorates relationships.
It's disgusting sub-human behavior.

Anyone have sauce on what happened after this video released?

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>>127430723
Fuck you, you little faggot bitch. Dave Thomas would rip your mouth open ear to ear with his fucking dick. I met him in 1996 in California, the guy was a fucking good person. You're just a stupid little cunt who knew nothing of a pioneer. Wendy's could fucking kill you if they felt like it. Go sip your fucking latte, faggot.

>>127430845
Nobody really. That's the problem. Once some dickhead has enough power they can do what they want without serious repercussions or answering to anyone. Well short of a war anyway.

>>127431024


You are obviously too stupid to understand the difference between a spanking and a beating.

fuck yourself. your generation sucks and you should not reproduce.

mommy issues

>>127431024
>teaching their child right from wrong
If you think this was a "lesson" for playing computer games when she wasn't supposed to, you're a fucking retard.
They were unleashing their frustrations on her in the form of physical abuse, plain and simple.
No lesson was learned.

>>127430989
>the state owns your child
the post

This is sick beacuse she is spanking by male, but womens doing the spanking... any links?

>>127431207

oh, we got an 'enlightened' millenial here

top kek faggot, you grew up falsely believing you were a special snowflake because you never got your ass beat as a kid, for acting like an entitled piece of shit

jokes on you asshole

human life isn't special and neither are you, mong

>>127431246

the lesson is

DO WHAT YOUR PARENTS TELL YOU DO TO UNTIL YOU AREN'T LIVING UNDER THEIR ROOF

the end

how is this rocket science for you, idiot

They want to control the kids

I was spanked twice as a child.

Once when i tried to start my dads car and rolled down a hill. Two when i almost strangled a kid without realizing how strong i was.

Both times my parents explained how i fucked up and why i was being punished and i stopped doing stupid shit. Aside from shitposting on a nepalese aquaponics webspace, i'm perfectly well adjusted, relatively successful, not a virgin ect ect.

Can someone tell me why i should hate my parents?

>>127431326


I'm 48

Ever heard of a yardstick? Mine was hanging on the kitchen wall.

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>>127430723
Fucking guy hates fast food chains. How fucking old are you? I'm guessing under 30. Who fucking gets that pissed over a food joint? I bet your jaw would be fucking tore up after Dave got ahold of it. Unless your a regular dick sucker. If that's the case, You'd have mild scars.

>>127431008
>I am the one that have bases all over world for "protection"
>i am the one who sells guns to niggers
>I am the one who made niggers not slaves in the us
>I am the one who elected a muslim nigger to be president
More?

When I was a kid, I was so pretentious and demanding that one or 2 slaps put me in reality.

Kids behave like animals, if you don't slap them m, they will never learn. Not abuse of course.

>>127429595
I am currently masturbating to this picture.

>>127431483

sure you are, i can smell the starbucks on you dummy

>>127429595
three things, use of a belt was stupid, she's too old to be treated like that and it didn't suit something as minor as staying on a computer

i think he just enjoyed kicking the shit out of her and the mother joined in

she's disabled somehow? maybe she's frustrating to deal with and they hate her so this was to blow off steam

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>>127431365
>DO WHAT YOUR PARENTS TELL YOU DO TO UNTIL YOU AREN'T LIVING UNDER THEIR ROOF
It is not by choice that a child lives with their parents. Yes, rules must be expected, as it is with parental authority, however... there is a line when love becomes fear and help becomes control.

Children are humans and need to be treated as such, not as slaves or platforms for abuse.
This is no way to raise a functional human being for society, and if you think it is, you are a sub-human and should kill yourself immediately.

you don't have to beat your kids to get them to do what you want

t. father of four

>>127431551

Jews are in control of American military

Jews manufacture and sell guns to american kids, and pretty much everyone else on the planet

Jews owned all the ships used to transport niggers to slave auctions

Obama is a half jew

More?

>>127429595
>give birth to a human who didnt ask to be born into this mess
>have No ability to be a good parent
>have short temper and think violence is a good solution
>why doesnt my kid love/respect me?

>>127429595
They don't want parents instilling their authority into their own children with authority.
They (the state) wants to do the upbringing through psychological bullying and shaming with the leftist indoctrination that is public education.

>>127429877
In my dog training class I was taught punishments only work if done in the heat of the moment.

>>127431692

For every shitpost you make in this thread I'm going to grab a metal hangar from my closet and beat the living shit out of my sleeping daughter in the other room.

How does this make you feel, faggot? Weak, powerless, responsible for another humans suffering?

I got all night and the screams are delicious.

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>>127431871
>For every shitpost you make in this thread I'm going to grab a metal hangar from my closet and beat the living shit out of my sleeping daughter in the other room.

Sure you will, permavirgin.

>I got all night and the screams are delicious.
Wow, edgy.

>>127430574
you don't own your fucking child. if you think this is okay please kys

>>127431803
there's an entire spectrum of physical punish from a slap on the ass to a double dose of a belt when she's screaming

>>127431674
Not sure of course but I vaguely remember this case. She was downloading music(stealing) her father the judge had caught her or something. She held onto the tape until he took her expensive car away from her for some reason. Then she released the tape in revenge. I'd like to know where she is now. I'd almost be willing to bet she's hanging out with SJW crowd. If this is the case I think it is, then Nancy Grace actually sort of threated the judge over this.

>>127431945
>trying to sex shame on /pol/ of all places

you have to go back roastie

>>127429595
So kids can become spoiled rotten and be liberals when they become teens and college aged, or so they think. Seems impossible to be sincere with them and tell them they are being used, they simply won't hear it.....because they never got their ass kicked when they were younger, except for coal burners bastard kids of course.

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>>127429595
Oh fug, I remember this when this happening happened.
I'm wasting my life.

>>127430519
I agree with your point, that you should not spank your children, because it might be bad for their development and there are other ways you can use (e.g. go to bed early, ground them etc.).

But your graph is utter shit:

Cognitive ability change from what to what? What is the control group? It would be logical to take 0 as the baseline.

Where are the error bars?

Number of times spanked per which interval? Days, weeks, months, years, total?

Why does it go up at 3+? Maybe the 3+ group has a huge variance and you just have to spank them 15+ times and they turn out even smarter than with 0 times.

And as the greek guy already said, maybe retarded parents need to spank their retard children more, because they are unable to deal with it any other way. Or maybe dumb children just misbehave much more often.

tl;dr:
Always include your methodology.
Use error bars (and describe what the error bars are showing (SD or SE?)).

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>>127430574
>>127430598
>>127431312

>children should be afraid of the punishments instead of taught why their actions are wrong

This will just make them do things without your knowledge in secret. Hitting them doesn't teach them anything but to fear the punishment, they learn nothing as to why they shouldn't be doing what they did.

>>127429595
You don't even have to beat your kids anymore, they are so dependent on their phones, consoles, tvs, pcs etc all you have to do is take that shit away and ground them from going anywhere but school and they'll feel like their life is ruined.

>>127431767
Okay then.
Then what you expect from those jews, who made it very big?
Give money/power to the people? Fuck that right?
We are one , talking about fucking kikes
And two you would do the same.
So please just because those greedy big nosed rats manipulate and get powerful every generation even more on stupid people, i am not to blame.
I just use my "give money plox, we jews also" card.

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>>127429595
OP, you know why, it's obvious.
I probably could heap shit and meme about it but in case someone actually wants simple, real answer - it's because in their simplified, naive worldview, disciplining a kid, due to it invoking negative emotions in a kid, becomes something negative/bad as well.
Plus, it's advocated in heavily left-leaning academical circles even when it's questionable from the standpoint of actual results - but if feels good so it has to be good.
When society pushes such stuff on you from every angle, including one of professional opinion, it's hard not to give in.

Though we don't have such an issue here. I mean, beating up your kid will get you in shit but slapping a bottom of some misbehaving brat will be fine.

>>127432213
>treating children as if they were intelligent adults

and this is where libshits fail every single time

children are not adults, they do not understand as adults do and without fear of repercussions they will not gain an appreciation for discipline.

you do not reason with children, idiot. thinking that this is possible only makes it apparent that you have the mind of a simpleton.

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>>127432442
>Teaching your child not to reason

Yes let's all raise our parents like niggers who beat children more than anyone! It works so great! Barbarism solves all problems!

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>>127432230
I hear your banking homo buddies aren't so goo at detecting funny money anymore or did you guys give up just like you fail at everything else in life? Nothing you ever do will ever mean anything being heeb is the only word wide identity you have. Sucks to be you.

>>127432561
Raise our children *

>>127431312
What's wrong with society that wants to protect itself from degeneracy? We don't need fucked up kids raised by retarded parents. That circle must be broken

>>127432561
>if you don't think like i want you to you must be a nigger

that's a pretty nigger-tier argument, nigger.

how are you unable to grasp the concept of discipline? children learn from examples, not you sitting in front of them and trying to explain complex concepts that they are not mature enough to grasp?

they watch and learn. you blabbering on about shit they have no life experience to equate with does absolutely nothing for them.

until they are educated enough to know what the fuck you are talking about, the belt has to suffice.

i'm sorry you were raised to be such a fucking moron, or maybe our country wouldnt be such a shithole right now.

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>>127432569
t.mothers basement dweller

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>>127431871
Wowzers

>>127429595
because too many morons can't understand the difference between discipline and using them as punching bags

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>>127431692
This.
"Do what I say!" works if you're telling them something like to not watch tv because that is their punishment, and they understand what they did to deserve that punishment and why their decision was not a good idea.

There are too many people that just parent by "DO WHAT I SAY BECUZ I'M THE ADULT". That is an incredibly retarded parenting style and will only produce a boot licking retard adults who cannot reason out why something is a good/bad idea because they were never taught to consider their decisions and reason them out. Kids will grow to be adults, it seems like people forget that.

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>>127432561
>Yes let's all raise our parents like niggers who beat children more than anyone! It works so great! Barbarism solves all problems!
Yes, exactly that's why liberals don't understand niggers except from Hollywood kikery. But I always like to change the subject and tell liberals how crazy I think Israel is so most can talk, and think about that more. I've never met a real life liberal or conservative that liked Israel because the Israeli funded politicians who run the JewSA govt are the only ones but they are not MY politicians obviously so I have no interest in any of them when they try to blow smoke up my ass. Like most people, I could care less about trendy/anti-trendy "sports letters" after some IMDB politicians name. Just goes to show the power and corruption of the yid lobby and how nothing else matters. I mean after all they ARE all a bunch of boomer cucks so they're difficult to take seriously in the first place, any of them.

>>127432804
You don't think at all. You approach every issue with a raised hand and blind force and that's exactly what you impart on your children.

>>127432213
this

My parents rarly hit me, instead they made sure i knew what i did wrong and then punished me in smart ways like taking shit away that i liked eg. vidya

taking my vidya away turned me into a very well behaved kid

>>127429595
>implying there's anything wrong with this.

This is how you make a kid tough, yeah it's traumatic. Nobody likes it. But it's how you teach discipline and respect, and how you teach your kid that a couple of bruises or welts aren't the end of the world.

>>127432442
what? children are literally just little adults, like temporary midgets. Stop treating them as different species or race.
They understand everything perfectly just as fine as you

>>127431790
It's not a parent's job to raise a kid that loves/respects them. It's their job to raise a kid that doesn't turn out shitty

>>127430519
>get ass whupped 2-3 times in early childhood
>test 98th percentile

Could it be that parents who give their kids fetal alcohol syndrome are more prone to violence?

>>127432804

You're making children out to be outright retards who never learn anything without a whip. My parents never hit me and I managed to understand why I shouldn't steal or be rude. Are you so retarded you can't phrase things for a child to understand?

>>127429595
my parents beat me like in that vid
no, they shouldn't have the right to beat their kids, trust me I speak out of experience

>>127433216
>It's not a parent's job to raise a kid that loves/respects them. It's their job to raise a kid that doesn't turn out shitty
How do you think it is not possible to accomplish both?

>>127429595
this would be maybe OK but once he said "bend over the FUCKING bed" (cursing) it means hes lost control and now its just sadistic shit

>>127430931
>child abuse
how exactly? I mean, what damage was done?

Welts?
Bruises?

Is that all?

A broken arm is abuse. Locking your kid in a closet is abuse. Soaking them in cold water and making them sleep outdoors is abuse.

Hitting them with a belt is discipline, no matter how much it triggers your feewings. You can bet I screamed like a stuck pig every time my dad's belt came off but I wasn't horrifically scarred by it.

>however, getting laughed at by a few kids in the lunchroom was enough to give me permanent rage issues

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if anyone here feels okay with this you are a horrible person.
If you can't raise your kids without harming them then you are a shit parent.

Being firm and authoritative with your children isn't being gratuitously violent with them physically. This bloke's a tryhard.

All for discipline via physical force if need be but this is extremely excessive and way past a "Punishment".

Reminder that this was all over a single video game downloaded on a computer.

You can tell that there was rage and anger not related to such things in that beating. You only need to do it like five or ten times. You want to spank them, not beat them and traumatize them when they are down on the fucking ground.

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>>127429595
pretty hot desu. my dick twitched

CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

http://www.upworthy.com/my-marine-instructor-insulted-me-by-using-the-r-word-this-is-how-i-responded

>>127433530
This was not a simple smack.
The purpose of that abuse over such a small thing as computer use was mental domination.
There is no reasoning, and she is left helpless despite her apologies.
But perhaps the worst thing of all, is that she clearly has no sense of safety in her own home or trust in her father.

That IS abuse.

>>127431098
>I am okay with tasteless physical discipline, but many parents fail to realize when the physical discipline goes beyond real punishment and into a form of self-gratification.

As a parent I it is not just self gratification that is a problem. Have watched many parents (mostly mothers) try to get their kids to do stuff, only to finally snap and get a little physical, which turns into a disaster as the person instigating does not realise that pulling on a kids arm while they are balanced trying to get into a car is going to end in pain. ie the three year old has fuck all balance and ends up face planting because the retarded parent yanks on them and apparently doesn't understand basic physics.

People are too emotional and because they do not act early (not to say they should) what ends up happening is non-thought through stupidness that is unsafe and potentially ends in more pain.

This goes.. doubly, more than doubly? Ten times more for women who are fucking useless overall and get physical, not for self gratification but because they are frustrated. Maybe its the same thing but to me they always appear weak and useless.

>>127429595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQakllyniUk

Father of two. 6 and 4. My children are too young to reason with. The only thing they understand is spankings. Maybe when they are older I'll try different techniques until I find one that works most effectively, but for now spanking is the only thing that works.

Children will walk all over you if you don't remind them who is in charge.

>>127431365
because as soon as she moves out shes going to fuck 40 tyrones and suck jamals cock at the same time.

the girl was 16, if shes causing this much problems, maybe he should have married her off already? as soon as shes chasing some chad, her dads authority has no weight anymore. no wonder shes acting out.

Only reason you'd want that right is if you managed to raise spoiled brats that need to be beaten into submission. Meaning you have no authority over your own family. You failed as a man on a fundamental level.

>>127434354
This.

>>127434293
>blaming the parents for the daughter being brainwashed by the multikulti jew

Misplaced blame, dumbshit.

Parents don't cause jungle fever, the jew does.

>>127434179
>Beating children who are too young to undersrand
Children having children eh

I think the punishment of being born into this world and being born to a Shitty parent like you is enough

>>127434460

This, if you cant explain with a good enough argument why things are bad, maybe its you who has the problem anyways

Children reflect the biggest flaws of their parents

>>127434443

I bet you don't have any kids, fucking loudmouth brainwashed roastie degenerate slut. What, did daddy not buy you the latest iCuck7? Gotta go suck jamal's cock to make him mad now!

Maybe if he beat the shit out of you, you wouldnt be running off to suck tyrone's cock to make him mad, because clearly he wasnt man enough to scare common sense into your dumb ass.

See this guy right here? >>127434179

Take it from an actual parent, dumb vagina.

Already not allowed to discipline your kids here due to law, think it came into effect about 5 years ago.

>>127434354
No, spankings should not be eliminated or looked down on, but you should try to reason with your kids first. Tell them to do/not to do something and reason out why something is good or bad

Spanking teaches an important lesson, if they act like douchebags, someone else in life will knock the fuck out of them for it.

Most of /pol/ here seems to be at extremes on this issue.

>>127434734
t. mentally challenged individual

>>127434845

t. never given a hard lesson in life, ever

i bet your schools handed out potato awards to all of you, regardless of effort, too right?

you're all winners! now back onto the shortbus

>>127434945
>When you still can't tell the difference between a lesson and abuse
Just give it up already, mate.
It's a good thing you'll never reproduce anyway.

>>127434564
If you think a light spanking is the same as beating children, it only proves you have zero clue about anything.

No one says you have to fucking whip the kids with full force, but some physical punishment does work - it's understood even when the kid is too young to care or ponder logical arguments and corrects behavior well. Plus, if done correctly, it's not even the pain, yet alone any injury that happens, it's just kid being more scared of it than it's worth.

>>127429595
There's never a reason to get physical with your children. If your child is so retarded that the only way he can learn is by you beating him then I'm sorry but you already fucked up. You got a retarded child, probably due to bad genetics. The best thing you can do is just give him away and then never attempt to reproduce again.

>>127434460
dude she clearly hates her father at this point. why do you think she even recorded it or released it?

girls like this are happy to indulge in the most degenerate shit and rub it in her dads and everyone her dad knows face. they want their dad to feel shame, especially in front of his peers. thats how they get back at him. it doesnt require a jew.

the guy has fucked up from the beginning it seems. if he cant control his daughter then he needs to marry her off so she can be brought back into good behavior by the all powerful "good dicking".

>>127435019

Jokes on you buddy. I'm beating the shit out of my daughter right now, and instilling within her such a hate of niggers, she's going to be the female version of hitler himself.

>>127430042
>t. pedo

>>127435059

women are attention whores. she recorded it and showed it off because she craves attention. it's not more complicated than that.

>>127435124
I am pedo don't compare me to child beaters and abusers

>>127435121
>I'm beating the shit out of my daughter right now

Pics or it didn't happen.

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>>127434945
As I stated before, beating will just cause the child to do things without your knowledge and attempt to find ways to do things without getting caught. If you don't teach your child why stealing is wrong, he won't look at an objest and say 'no I can or won't steal is because it's not mine, I'll leave it' instead you'll get a nigger looking to make sure no one is there to see him steal the object.

Get fucked, If you can't teach a 4 year old why they shouldn't take their brother's toys without hitting them then you shouldn't have children.

>>127435182
>she recorded it and showed it off because she craves attention

>Video was recorded in 2004 and sent to authorities years later
>Set up because there's an obvious pattern of abuse in the household
>Mother even came out later and said there was abuse in the household

Enough with the trolling already, mate. You're not funny.

>>127435376
>trusting women on anything

yeah, nothing ever goes wrong when you ask a woman for her opinion, right?

>>127435020
>slavs

Being slav myself i know the "highly sofisticated balance" slavic parents have when it comes to this

Go study pedagogy and psycology if you want to be a good parent, everything else is avrage, and hardy Worth a discussion. Just dont get mad when they hate you Because you didnt have a clue

>>127435519
MGTOW amirite? xDDD

>>127435347
>a 4 year old

at 4 years old you were shoving crayons up your butthole, mouth breather

no amount of logic was going to stick with you at 4, imbecile

>>127435565

get out Anita

>>127435629
*tips*

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>>127429595
Of course they do. Discipline implies parents teaching their children values. It's not the place of parents to pass their values on to their children - that's the job of liberal television and liberal union teachers.

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>>127429595
>Why do liberals want to eliminate the right of parents to discipline their kids?
I don't think they do. Some spanking from time to time is okay, but the shit in this video isn't okay. This is outright abuse. If you have to hit your children with a fucking belt to "discipline" them, then you are doing something wrong as a parent.

I mean seriously, all you niggers on here constantly bitch about how muslims treat women like dirt, and how they hit them all the time and how that's incompatible with the west. Yet you niggers are totally okay with a grown man beating the shit out of a young child to "discipline" him/her. How is that any different than the muslim version of lashes on the back?

You niggers are so hypocritical it's truly unbelievable.

>>127435753
Its literally one autistic cocksucker defending the video
We all think its shit

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>>127429595
>take it like a grown woman

uma delícia.

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I would only consider using light slaps on the ass as a displicining method if talking them through their mistakes proved to be absolutely ineffective time and time again, and even then I'd only do it so that blood flows to and disappears from the area in 2 minutes and try explaining it then.

My parents never beat me, ever. Even when I was a prick. They mentally scarred me instead. Made me feel left out, a stranger in my own home. I would've taken a thousand beatings anyday over that. Some people shouldn't be allowed to reproduce however, and nigger-tier parents who straight-out abuse their children are one of them.

>>127430574
A good smack, even once or maybe twice with a wooden spoon, in intense response after warning will do the job in 97% of cases for children pre-adolescence and mid-adolescence.

The 2% otherwise deserve the belt with a brief encounter for maximal retaliation affairs (threatening to sue or have your boyfriend mug your father, firing guns inside the house, brandishing a knife in front of a guests' face, etc...).

The 1% should then be handled as intensely as an extreme punishment, and that's always in response to violent, lethal outrage.

No child should be subject to arbitrary, egotistical discipline like in the video.

If you're raising your kid right, should be an easy method of "ask, tell, yell, smack, repeat".

>>127435920
#notall/pol/acks

>>127435753

I wonder if he was doing this to his son instead of his daughter if you would still have the same opinion.

>>127436154
disciplining*

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>>127429595
hot

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>>127431692
I agree, it's a balance honestly. You can't be their friends because they won't respect you anymore and biologically they want a parental figure. However you can't use them as just a tool or they will grow up resentful once they realize you treated them like a slave basically.

It's called being tough, loving, nurturing, but tough and you -have- to discipline them. If you don't discipline them they grow up thinking they can do whatever and wont' listen when you do eventually decide to. I've had friends who weren't disciplined and they grew up hating their parents and mocking them to their faces. My parents weren't perfect but they disciplined me as a kid and to this day I just have it automatically built into my brain to respect every adult I meet on a certain level, which I think is healthy.

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Good thing most of you faggots will never get close to a vagina because god knows you would fuck up your children big time.

>>127435920
There are more than enough idiots here who think this is totally okay.

>>127436220
Why wouldn't I? I was equally as outraged when I saw the daddyofive shit on youtube.

>>127429595
>Why do liberals want to eliminate the right of parents to discipline their kids?

liberals need to start accepting some diversity, I'm very disappointed they haven't legalized bloodsports like cockfighting

>>127435532
I did study pedagogy and I also was spanked as a kid. My parents have that balance you mention and I was never harmed nor I was messed up emotionally like how often nowadays people claim. I also grew enough to be a balanced person myself, instead of being one of those modern college fuckups unable to handle much in their dedication to safe spaces and political correctedness.
In fact, I was in many respects more reasonable and mature kids than my peers and while I have shitload of flaws, the way I was raised in early childhood I'd consider one of the things that went correctly.

>>127436311
Is that her tooth slipping out at the end?

And source?

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>>127433956
this

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>>127429595
i was "disciplined" as kid, the result was me growing to hate my parents, i almost killed my dad at the age of 14, and i developed serveral mental illnesses.

worked out really great that method of beating kids.

>>127429595
it violates the nap you monkey.

>>127436311
that looks too real to be fake. sick. explains a lot.

>>127436311
What the fuck is happening in this gif?

daily reminder that beating your kids is nigger parenting at it turns your kids either into nervous self-hating wrecks or violent bullies

>>127436782
Disciplining doesn't mean to hit your children for not eating their supper.

It means to show them who is boss when they act tough. Sorry for your illnesses but your father was an anecdotal idiot. Bad example.

>>127429595
quick rundown: the judge has a boner from hitting his furry daughter with a belt because she thinks she deserves an expensive car despite being a mid twenties live at home neet who is obsessed with sonic the hedgehog.

>>127436909
She's getting her face bashed in by a stick or baseball bat. Her face is automatically swelling from how hard she is getting hit.

>>127429595
Because physical violence is not discipline

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>>127430931

This fucking millennial here. How would you straighten out a kid wanting to smoke, drink, get tattoos? You're only a few years away before they start yelling MY BODY MY CHOICE and finding it perfectly normal to stretch out their ass hole more and more. Bad actions SHOULD have bad consequences. Are you going to teach your kids that they're a special snowflake that can't do any wrong?

>>127434354
why beat them up though instead of for example lockign them out of the house?

>>127436937
>it turns your kids either into nervous self-hating wrecks or violent bullies
Ironic given that in my time when spanking was much more common, far fewer kids grew up to be bullies and self-hating wrecks than how it is with current generation of college kids, with shitloads of them declaring depression or other mental/emotional issues.

>>127429595

Teaching kids that beating people to make them do what you want sets a bad precedent and conditions them to accept being controlled by the government with violence

>>127429877
>In psychology class we were taught that such punishments could work if they were not done in the heat of the moment and out of anger but that rarely happens.
This

>>127437345

Supposing in fact the girl on the top has a mind virus intended to keep her that way, and she turns into the girl on the bottom after it's removed?

>>127437531

You sound like one of those Stefan Molymene cultists

>>127434799
The libertarian retards are still kicking around. Some real dumb shit comes out of their mouths. The fact they were never hit as children is probably why they're insufferable morons.

>>127436909
>>127437185
>>127436311
>>127436569
>>127436898

its fake idiots

its from some horror movie

you think her face would turn from "woman" to some fucking warcraft shit after that 3rd hit?

>>127436165
This exactly.

>>127437623

You sound like a faggot

>>127429595
Because for every nine parents who know when to hold back, there's always one retard who takes it too far.

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>>127435601
>>127435629
>>127435519
>>127435182

>>127431830
Dogs dont have the ability to associate behavior with a future consequence. If it pisses in the house and you come home two hours later and kick its ass, it doesnt associate the ass kicking with pissing in the house

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>>127437865

I came into a thread expecting child abuse, and that is what you delivered.

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>>127430574
Yeah, it's the parents responsibility and if they start failing in that and we have to step in, they should be punished for not living up to their responsibilities

>>127436165
Agreed this is a power trip for the parents. I've never hit my German Shepherd and he's perfectly behaved. But I don't need to boost my ego and feel powerful by abusing a lesser animal.

>>127436101
How dare you appropriate my language, you Islomophile piece of shit?

>>127437961
They do but only short term. If you punish the dog immediately after it finishes pissing, it will likely associate one with the other and even if not correct its behavior, at least it will know that likely it was punished for pissing. But yeah, wait a bit and it won't realize why it was punished or will associate it with a wrong thing.

>>127437961
>Dogs dont have the ability to associate behavior with a future consequence
I guess you too don't have such ability if someone randomly starts beating you without any explanations. How it is possible to associate it with something you do in the distant past?

>>127437699
Source on being fake. If that's a heavy bat or something what do you think her face would turn into?

>idiots

Because undisciplined kids grow up to be liberals.

>>127432213
Agree. My dad practiced what could be euphemistically be called assymetrical punishment for a variety of infractions. I didnt stop doing them, just became very good at hiding them

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>>127429595
Because its useless

Roughing up someone doesnt teach him anything, neither makes him change his behavior.

He may stop being an asshole while you are around, but he will still be an asshole to people that cant beat him up.

>>127433014
You're projecting or just making a strawman, fucktard. You associate corrective measure in form of spanking with absolute lack of any care for raising kid but through blind force,

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>>127429595
because most of these millennial libtards don't have kids of their own and don't know shit about life.

>>127429595

Not all children are the same and if you get to the point where you have to use violence to discipline your child, you either failed in really getting to know how your child works, or your child is a dumb piece of shit that doesn't get anything else besides violence. Simple as that.

>>127431098
Girl posted the video after statute of limitations for abuse was past, so the judge just got a warning and isn't allowed to preside over cases involving abuse.

My dad would always talk first, let me know why it has to happen, and I would know how many. Then, after, we would talk about it some more. Didn't really change my trajectory into criminality much, given that I eventually chose to live with my mom which was the absence of almost all discipline. Luckily, I straightened out on my own after jail.

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>>127429595
>texas judge

>>127431246
Eh, I think the mom was just trying to get the situation over with before the dad did some real damage.

>>127429595

Haha I remember when my father beat me like that haha
if I wouldn't turn around he'd slap my face haha

Too bad he's dead now haha

>>127438541
All studies, objective facts and logic is on my side. I couldnt care less what some ignorant child abuser thinks.

>>127437961
This. When you off leash train your dog you NEVER punish it when it comes back even if it was a shithead and not coming when called. The dog will associate returning to you with being punished.

>>127438246
A person can rationalize /draw a causal connection to a beating. For instance, I was given a hearty beating for leaving the hose on all day.

>>127429877
He's doing it because he's a fucking pervert who takes pleasure in having a small girl under his complete control and seeing her crying is obviously turning him on.

Fucking disgusting. A simple slap, used rarely, can work. This sort of thing creates broken people who resent authority.

Poor girl.

>>127433196
Children generally don't have a sense of scale. They don't understand time, distance, their own strenght or the value of money the way adults do. So no, they're not little adults, they're inexperienced little goblins with too much energy and too little sense who will accidentally kill themselves if you don't keep a close eye on their shenanigans.

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>>127438943
you ok there, hanz?

>>127438330
This is really a stupid meme

>>127429595
Because beating your child is degenerate low IQ behavior.

>>127439208
That coupled with the fact that children don't develop empathy until 5 years old makes them unbearable in early childhood.

>>127438330
or maybe it makes them resent authority and traditional social/family structures turning them liberal. Or it turns them into sexperverts as can be seen itt

>>127429595
SOURCE PL,Z

So according to this thread, most of /pol/ are people emotionally crippled by their parents that actually believe they cant relate with other people because of some shady jewish conspiracy instead?

>>127429595
Because degenerates and criminals vote democrat. Not difficult to understand at all. Didn't even need to ask, really. Same applies to their obsession with violent subhumans and sexual identitarians.

>>127438246
>arguing with jewchology

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>>127439742
Can you 100% prove the Jews are not involved?

>>127430519
Dumb kids need their asses beat more

>>127429595
Do you agree that positive reinforcement leads to underachievers while negative reinforment leads to depressed workers?

>>127438276 https://vimeo.com/22202059

>>127439208
>Children don't understand time, distance
Are you serious?

The concept of childhood is just a social construct. Of course nobody - even adults, or elders - will understand something without knowledge of that. But children cognitive ability is the same as adults, they are THE SAME. It's our responsibility to make sure they understand what is right.

This is the actual link his daughter put up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl9y3SIPt7o
It was difficult to make out what he was spanking her over. Apparently she used the computer to pirate music and games.

>>127431576
My mother slapped me in the face once for trying to tell her something while she was on the phone.

Funny how she didn't dare when I was bigger than her a couple of years later.
Bullies are faggots in all cases - they have no real power and are cowards.

>>127441596
>That look in their eyes the last time they try to physically overpower or intimidate you and you realize it will never happen again.
Felt good. I admit I have issues but I have never fully trusted my mother.

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>>127429595

Shitty parents need to discipline their children with such excessive physical harm. Good parents don't need to. Psychologically its already proven that violence such as this doesn't actually teach children to actually understand what is wrong, but it is more fear-based which has a higher chance of the children acting up again.

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>>127439742
>200 Replies
> Representative in any way shape or form of /pol/'s majority

No wonder that flag doesn't pop up too often.

>>127441596
if you would raise your hand to your own mother, that would explain how europe is unwilling and unable to protect their women from eating somali ass

>>127429595
Source on pic

>>127441535
Bad parents should be shamed like this.
Discipline is one thing, having a boner for your daughter's developing behind, hating her for it and keeping her like a child - then whipping that offending rump while salivating, is another.

That he didn't pull her trousers down first is a disgrace - also that he turned the light off.
At the very least she should have been wearing a short, pleated tartan skirt, and heels, while saying "thank you daddy" after each strike.

>>127429696
This. Is illegal to damage state property.

>implying there is a problem of parents being to discipline to their kids
>implying there is no problem with parents allowing that their kids be degenerate.

>>127429595
That is quality wanking material my friend, the mum coming in just added abit of a Lesbian BDSM kick too it turned it into a tasty 9/10 porno. Thanks friend.

>>127429595
Dunno man, i've been trying to "discipline" my wife, but these little people dressed in blue can't get off my case.

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whats the point in having a daughter if you can't beat her ass sometimes?

>>127429595
If you hit your children you should not have the children to begin with because you do not have the patience to deal with them.

>>127441732
Yep.
When they realise their power matrix is gone, and they have become worthless.
It is like a policeman realising his radio is broken and he's surrounded.
My mother abused her power, threw away my stuff all the time without telling or asking me, and lied about it when I would confront her.
Like a toddler caught doing something wrong.

>>127441985
Didn't ever have to raise my hand, the coward just saw she couldn't do anything anymore.
She bullied my elder sister to the point where she left at 16.
After I was too big, she bullied my younger sister.
It was mostly verbal/psychological abuse and destroying property.
Some people shouldn't be in charge of children.

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>>127431114
>You're just a stupid little cunt who knew nothing of a pioneer. Wendy's could fucking kill you if they felt like it.
kek, this guy

>>127442392
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUCE PLS

>>127429595
makes better slaves when they never learn to keep their emotions in check.

>>127432213
>This will just make them do things without your knowledge in secret.
things that never happens : the post.

>>127429877
Your mistake is assuming a child thinks and acts like an adult - you inadvertantly place yourself in the situation also. Corporal punishment is a sin forced on the parent by the unruly child.

>>127442270
pretty much this if you are under the age of 18 you belong to the state. if there is one thing that state dosen't like is handing out punishment that they dont approve of.

I could never hit my child when I have one. I'd let my husband do that, but I'd still feel bad. I guess it's better than having my kids grow up degenerate.

>>127440205
Ding ding ding

Winner winner chicken dinner

Every authoritarian regime strips parental authority.

The state becomes the surrogate parent.

The state provides the philosophy, religion, education, and beliefs.

Parents are then held hostage to the state by their children. Who act as informers.

Read 1984 or Soviet history, or east German, or North Korean, or Chinese, or Nazi history.

The left is authoritarian. Always the same.

Yes severe child discipline is wrong and counter productive, but it should be legal because the alternative makes the state the surrogate parent and that is basically an unmitigated evil.

Parents should be provided with parenting classes and education on how to effectively raise children.

>>127429595

I can't wait to spank my teen daughter. I'll find the slightest reason to spank her. "Do you just roll you eyes at me? Come to my room."

Remove her pants. Remove her underwear. Bend her over my knee and spank that tight teen ass.

I'm hard thinking about it.

>>127429595
I was spanked as a kid and all it did was give me some very uncomfortable fetishes

I'd never spank my own child because I assume they'd react the same way

>>127448014

My aunt and uncle had to stop spanking my cousin because she enjoyed it. They figured it out when she was acting out on purpose and didn't cry when spanked.

>>127430317

Romneys shawty. She posted some /pol/ shit during Obama's last election, and supposedly that is why her parents beat her.

She's like 14 in that picture.

Old enough for nudes now, maybe she has delivered, or will if you ask.

>>127429595
>Why do liberals want to eliminate the right of parents to discipline their kids?
Physical discipline might work on most kids, but there are children who have latent psychopathy.

If you start beating a kid with latent psychopathy you'll make his/her psychopathy worse.

In my case my parents beat me every day when I was 8-13, I learned from each hit, not what I was supposed to learn, rather the physics and biology behind how to damage a person as much as possible via physical violence.

So when I was 13 I started fighting back but I prepared for 4 years before I fought back, and when I did fight back it was something different.

Beating normal kids might be ok, but if you beat a kid with mild anti social personality disorder, you'll make the disorder worse.

Spanking is sexual abuse, especially when done to girls.

>>127429595
>assaulting other people is bad
>assaulting your own child is fine
ayy

>>127432114
>WAAAH WAAAH DON'T MAKE FUN OF ME FOR BEING A VIRGIN WAAH WAAAH
You sound like a SJW complaining about fat shaming, shut the fuck up nigger

>>127429696
Kids own themselves you authoritarian fuck.

>>127434179
>Father of two. 6 and 4. My children are too young to reason with.
You aren't trying hard enough. The fuck are they even doing at this age to warrant a spanking?

Not eating their vegetables? Find ones they like, or cook them in a way that they like. That's what my parents did, it made me willing to try all kinds of food that other little kids my age would refuse.

Not going to bed on time? Play with them more so they're actually tired come bed time.

Breaking shit? This one you'll actually have to stop and think really fucking hard about.
Sometimes kids break things for attention, sometimes they're just trying to understand the world around them and breaking something is the only way to see its inner workings.
Either way if you just hit them, all you're doing is frustrating them and either teaching them that curiosity is bad, or that the only attention they can get from you is negative.

I'll say it again because it bares repeating: try harder you fucking faggot. Thankfully I know you're just a memester on this shithole of a webzone, but in the unlikely event that you or anyone else reading this post actually does have children: TRY HARDER, THINK

>>127448217
wonder why kids act this way, for my parents it was easier to tell I was enjoying it, my little stiffy gave it away

>>127443001
Are you fucking dumb? Lets say your kid steals some candy from a store, you find out and you beat them. You don't give them an explanation or say why you're beating them, or tell them why stealing is wrong. All they know now is being CAUGHT stealing is wrong, not the crime itself.

>>127429595
>Why do liberals want to eliminate the right of parents to discipline their kids?

>liberals
>discipline
You can't have them be both

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>mfw I was a good boy and never got smacked

>>127450378
>my little stiffy gave it away

Yeah, that's a dead giveaway. For girls it's more difficult to know they are aroused.

>>127450550
Wow
You get the rake last

>>127429595
It's fucked up

ITT: someone who was disciplined via slapping and spanking a lot as a kid

I had conduct disorder and it changed absolutely nothing, just made me more discreet and manipulative about what I did.

Humans are hard to control.

>>127437529
>far fewer kids grew up to be bullies and self-hating wrecks
Bull-fucking-shit. They just resorted to drinking for their depression, or in the case of a bully abusing their spouse, their children, their dog, their co-workers / employees.

I wish this "things used to be better!" meme would go the fuck away, but it's literally some core bullshit inherent in the human species.

>>127430042
>arrested for raping and murdering my daughter
''What happened to "whatever happens behind closed doors is none of your business" guys?''

>>127429595
I would've fapped to this if the girl were a bit hotter.

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>Hitting your dog is wrong and is a terrible way to train them
>Hitting your kid however is OK and teaches them discipline

>>127429595
because those children grow up to be frightened brutal unquestioning ignoramuses like their parents

>>127437616
The natural man is an enemy to God

Carnal, violent, reprobate.....

>>127429595
Only discipline females and encourage males

>>127429595
>At the end of the clip
>Some tween comes up and says
>"I wanna beat the living shit out of that man"

You can sure try, twinkle.

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>>127429595
So they have no way to stop liberal indotrination

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_Q_qwPAVvc

>>127451650
get the rake

>>127430624
Are you a female (boy)?

>>127429595
So an entire generation will grow up soft that can be recruited by the libtards to shill for their agenda.

>>127430039
Shes underage bro

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it's actually linked to authoritarianism
and could lead to trump voters

my father "disciplined" me like /pol/acks are advocating ITT when I was young and now I'm a self-doubting nervous autist

>>127452635
You do realize that'll just make him even harder.

>>127429595
>Why do liberals want to eliminate the right of parents to discipline their kids?
Why do right wing conservative extremists with Middle East religious "values" insist on indoctrinating their children in the ways of violence and brutality?

>>127452649
>it's actually linked to authoritarianism
yeah, totally dude
i mean, god forbid parents actually have

you know

authority

>>127429595
why didn't he just fuck her nice pussy

>those screams made me hard

>>127451616
I hit the shit out of my dogs

>wanting white children to stay as children throughout adulthood

No one will ever know.

>>127452733
I guess you're still a work in progress, maybe your father stopped too soon

>>127453078
authority=/=fear

you can have authority without beating ppl

>>127430042
>t. Child-abusing, cannibal kidy-didler

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https://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism

>>127453590
Always archive sources with a reputation for shit journalism and clickbait.

https://archive.is/J7E7d <- vox.com article

>>127429595
From my experience, parents who beat their children fucked up themselves to begin with, don't know how to control themselves, or only know how to use violence to solve their problems.

In socialism, children belong to the state.

>>127430042
this only applies to gays

>muh cummies

Because that creates cucks. Anglo education of kids is shit.

To raise a strong man you have to beat him and teach him life the hardway. Do you think Spartans raised their children by letting them do whatever they could?

FUCKING NO.

When I misbehaved, I'd be beaten and only allowed to eat bread and drink water for a week.
That's how older generations were raised, but now you're not even allowed to shout at a child thanks to (((anglo))) education.

No wonder why every fucking kid screams like a toddler if his mommy doesn't buy him what he wants in the US.

>>127453645

2 sides. Using force to correct has its place but abuse has no place in raising children. There is a difference.

>>127453352
>you can have authority without beating people
not your original claim, bro. you think discipline is some sort of abuse of authority
you just hate any sort of standard imposed on your pathetic unruly conduct

btw it's true that child beating creates child beaters. that's what you probably meant, but it doesn't matter because your statement was stupid and you weren't specific enough

>>127454045
>french surrender monkey talking about cucks

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>>127431114
>Wendy's could fucking kill you if they felt like it.

Considering the state of some of these Wendy's around here, you're probably closer to the truth than you realize.

A parent beating their child is exactly the same as the government silencing dissidents.

>>127438656
>the girl in your pic
>MUH DIKKK

>>127454213
That's exactly because we adopted anglo methods of education and anglo culture that we became cucks.

>>127429595
spanking your kids is a desperation move when you fail to instill real discipline.
a disciplined child would not need to be deterred with violence.

>>127429595
>you must obey me because I'm your parent
>if you don't I will beat the shit out of you
Fastest way to make your child hate you.

>>127432561
>Yes let's all raise our parents like niggers

So we don't?

>>127454188
you end up with frightened adults that don't question authority and want to impose their rules on everyone else.
a lot of them turn out to be deviants too.
do what I say not as I do.

the old test
http://personality-testing.info/tests/RWAS/

equivelnt of 3 captchas for this post.
I'm done here

>>127429595
Boner why!

>>127454834
sounds a lot like ANTIFA what you're describing here
I also don't understand your point, and I also know you don't have any better alternatives

dscipline and child beating aren't the same thing either and you don't even have the honesty to admit that

>>127454045
>When I misbehaved, I'd be beaten and only allowed to eat bread and drink water for a week. That's how older generations were raised, but now you're not even allowed to shout at a child thanks to (((anglo))) education.
no wonder you ended up here on 4chan

>>127429595
It shocked me the first few times the cucks came pouring outta the wood work around here to denounce spanking. Just normal now, I guess.

>>127430308
the only reply that matters in this thread

>>127429595
a lot don't
black people are generally liberal and they discipline children all the time
it must be the white liberals
i completely support disciplining children as a libcuck

>>127453117
And that creates aggressive dogs. Hitting kids creates aggressive people.

>>127441596
This.

My mother was same, she asserted her dominance by either beating me, or treating to beat me.
>Anon you must do what I say because I'm your mother and because I will beat you.

After I outgrew her, she never raised her hand, and instead starts crying in every argument she's losing.

>>127429595
He was like I BELIEVE IN JUSTICE

>>127430667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvmhHXfJzFg

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>>127431871

I think it's no coincidence that while the use of physical punishment has decreased, the amount of faggotry, lack of responsibility, cuckoldry, transsexuality and other types of degeneracy have increased.

It's like what Clint Eastwood said. We're the pussy generation.

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>>127456724
thegs molemene