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thoughts /pol/? "Aside from keeping things realistic and

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thoughts /pol/?

"Aside from keeping things realistic and allowing players to potentially rewrite history, the move also keeps things respectful toward those who risked everything to defeat the Nazis."
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>>127321573
>respectful
then all soldiers get honor. the war ended, there were drafts. its only fair
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>>127321573
I just whant to play as a Nazi...
I don't identify as an American Or Jap..
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>wanting a whole campaign of getting your shit pushed in/freezing to death
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>>127322238

If I wanted to play as a jew I'd go buy an Israeli fps
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>>127321573
Why do they always refer to them as "Nazis"? Alsatians who were part of the Wehrmacht probably didn't consider themselves as Nazis. That's what confuses me today when lefties want to "punch a Nazi."

It doesn't matter if you think Nazism is more of an ideology than a political party; there haven't been any Nazis since the mid-20th century.

The closest you'd get now are just National Socialists, but I guess that just doesn't get the clicks.

Don't stress though, you can probably play as the Wehrmacht in multiplayer.
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>>127321573
Jesus Christ it was 80 goddamn years ago who cares.
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>>127321573
But playing as the Soviets and shooting surrendering soldiers in COD 2 is A-OK
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>>127322238
Remind me what was happening to the jews?

Can't wait for holocauster tycoon.
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>>127321573

What is leave no Russian.

>Literally killing droves of civilians in an airport with a 240B
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>>127321573
Honestly, there were any CoD campaign that let us play as nazis?
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>>127322238
>>127322366
If you really wanted to play as a jew you'd get Ashtray simulator 1939
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>>127321573
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>>127321573
The other WW2 CoD games didn't have you play as Nazis either.
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>>127322366
i only know of one and it was really shit , other then that there's the hezbollah farcry mod but its terrible and you play as hezbollah .

best FPS where you play israel that actually has a decent active community is project reality .that is until\if squad release an israeli faction.
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>>127322896
It's okay because it was evil Russians, not sand niggers
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>>127323146
>caring about COD
best WW2 game ever is red orchestra senpai
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>>127323286
>>127322896
atleast you didnt play as a nazi
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>>127323286

The irony being the level was designed by one.

>"Game designer Mohammad Alavi was heavily involved in level's development."
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>>127322669
This
Assuming the holocaust Happened as they say it did, what the soviets did was immensely worse
66 million killed between 1918-1958
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>>127323146
In multiplayer you did
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>>127321573

CoD has never let you play as the Nazis and they're definitely not going to start now with the first CoD game that actually showcases Nazi atrocities (the Holocaust only been directly portrayed in two games. Velvet Assassin and Wolfenstein: the New Order).

In this politically explosive climate, you'd probably have an easier time convincing the devs/publishers to let you play as an alternate-timeline version of Anne Frank who manages to escape the train bound for Auschwitz and winds up becoming a partisan sharpshooter/lover of the main American protagonist.
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why not?

why no campaign where you invade poland and France?

Shit would be cash
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>>127323327

Finally a Jew with actual taste
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>>127323550
It doesnt say you cant play them in multiplayer does it you fucking retard
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>>127323607
CoD world at war, you played as the Wehrmacht in multiplayer
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>>127321573
well have fun with me not buying this game then
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>>127323843
We'll I don't know, there's no fucking link
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is there any game that let's you be nazis?
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>>127322478

Demonizing anyone who disagrees with you as a "Nazi" is straight out of the Soviet playbook. Even when actual Nazis existed most German soldiers thought they were fighting for their fatherland, not for the Nazi Party (just as the vast majority of Soviet soldiers weren't Communists).
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>>127321573
>tfw there will never be great German campaigns like Company of Heroes had ever again
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>>127321573
you could never play as germany in cod, why would they suddenly change it
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>>127323838
u exited for the gook cooking simulator senpai ?
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>>127321573

>Still playing Call of Duty
>Wasting your life on the jewdio games

Do you want a pacifier too?
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>>127322366
>Israeli FPS
>Goyim 1p
>Children double points
>Allies .75p
>Collect goy foreskins and matzos to heal up
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>>127322238
That could still be really good if done well.
Alien Isolation didn't make me feel like a big tough man but I still liked it.
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>>127323884

Well of course they did in multiplayer. You can't have multiplayer without someone playing the bad guy. But they've never let you play as a German in a CoD campaign and they're not going to start now.
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Why?

Because it's impossible to promote their diversity agenda with Nazis.

Black gay females can't be portrayed as Nazis, only evil straight white males.

Therefore ban Nazis from playable role in game.

Only kill them with U.S. First Feminist Tumblr Division.
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>>127321573
Not surprised, any developer who even attempted to do such a thing would probably be forced out of the industry.Ever few years a game about the invasion of Normandy comes out to remind you about the evil nazis who were stopped by the highly diverse and courageous Americans.

The best way to do something even remotely pro-axis would be to do an extremely graphic and barbaric Soviet campaign involving going from town to town executing and raping as you go.
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>>127321573
Nazis have literally never playable in a cod campaign.
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>>127323725
Even an actual full campaign would be awesome. Easy first missions gradually getting worse and worse seeing everybody's morale plummet as the war progresses. Like that short movie series generation war.
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>>127322366
DLC: the game
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>>127323213
Just play HOI4 with the millenium dawn mod and take over the world as Israel :^)

But actually, I tried to do that, it's fucking impossible, you guys are too small to actually do much of anything. I'm 100% certain that if we stopped supplying arms to you, you'd be overrun in a week.
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>>127321573
I mean I think we all know that everyone wants to play a WW2 shooter campaign from the Japanese or German perspective.

the problem is that despite Hitler being wildly popular in Germany until post-Stalingrad and the shortages really started hitting hard the developers will probably develop some cucked storyline arc about "muh unwilling participant in this" and "muh disenfranchised innocent Germans." the protagonist will be some faggot who realizes the Nazi cause is wrong or some shit in order to appeal to cucked sympathies.
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>>127324333
But you can easily portray a sympathetic German. Have some elderly Volkssturm who was pressed into service for example.
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>>127323725
>>127323988


It's really a shame because the eastern front would make a far more epic game than anything they ever make
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Why? I want to play as all sides, the Communists, the Nazis and the Brits, French and Americans.
If I had to choose 2 I would choose Communists and Nazis, or Brits and Nazis.
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>>127321573
Idiots. Virtue signaling and politics in video games is such trash. I can't wait till my dev company kicks off, I'm making a WWII Game where you play as a Nazi. I'll probably even have the player start off as a lifeguard at the auchwitz swimming pool.
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>>127324333

Trips warrants a response.

If Nazis don't libs, coloreds, fags, etc, then they shouldn't expect them to cater to them. Fucking /pol/ faggots are the reason why I STILL have to mod Nazi flags into games.
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>>127321573
>being the soviets who killed far more people is okay
Fuck Cawwadoody.
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>you will never get to play as him
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>>127324612
>not the SEA theatre
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>>127321573
>we don't want to rewrite history
>put more female soldiers into the game

yeah
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>>127324464
millennium dawn dosnt simulate israel correctly senpai , taking over the world as israel would be fairly doable if it did (especially if the game simulated bibi correctly)
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>>127321573
Admittedly I haven't bought one in a while, but the COD franchise is now dead to me, left wing parasites
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>>127324797
>why I STILL have to mod Nazi flags into games.
Isn't that because its illegal in Germany to have the swastika present?
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>>127323505
I don't get why nazis are so negatively viewed but commies get a pass while having a body count literally hundreds millions higher.

Go to any major city in Europe or the US and fly a commie flag and dress in typical soviet uniform and people don't hive a shit, some would even support you.
Go fly a Nazi flag and dress like a SS officer and everyone will attack you
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>>127323725
And also an attempt to redpill millions. If they did it right, like the main character being a proud Nazi soldier, just wanting to fight for his country and culture, but gets trapped inside the horrors of war and watches as the Allies take everything from him.

that or I'm high

I'm high ayy lamo
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>>127321573
unless we get to play as RAF lancaster crewmen and raze Dresden to the ground with incendiary bombs I'm not buying it
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>>127324160

Hell yeah.

I just wish the devs would hurry up and do an alternate history Cold War gone hot Red Orchestra set in the 1980s/1990s. It would be even more fun to charge across the Fulda Gap in an M1 Abrams or clash with Soviet forces for control of Afghanistan (lampshading the actual war in Afghanistan).

Come to think, I always thought it would be cool to make a pair of games, the first where you play as an American soldier in WW2 who at the end takes some Anne Frank lookalike (or just Anne Frank directly if you want to be edgy) Holocaust survivor for a wife. In the second game, you play as their son who commands a company of US soldiers in Germany when WW3 breaks out and you wind up fighting through many of the same locations and confronting the great irony of fighting your father's former Allies (the Soviet Union) and fighting alongside the descendants of some of the people who murdered your mother's family (Bundeswehr). It would give unique insight into the Cold War and shifting alliances imo.
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>>127324464
> you guys are too small to actually do much of anything. I'm 100% certain that if we stopped supplying arms to you, you'd be overrun in a week.

But you gave them nukes already you Amerinigger.
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>>127325206

I think there is a mission where you play as a turret gunner in a B-17 if that's worth anything.
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>>127322896
It's just called No Russian you uncultured fuck
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>>127321573
DROPPED
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>>127325218
Or play World in Conflict, its has some pretty good characters.
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>>127322803
underrated
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>>127325021
I know, it's insane! In reading Gulag archipelago atm, he's talking about the torture they would preform on prisoners before sending them to gulag
>acid baths
>sleep deprivation
>stepping on dicks with Jack boots
>branding the inside of someone's asshole with a hot iron
>throwing people into cesspools
All to get them to sign a confession for a crime they didn't commit

The Nazis never did ANYTHING of the sort
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Men of War had a decent German campaign with even a mission on the conquest of Greece. Normally all games focus on WW2 post-Pearl Harbour, and allies gaining ground.
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>>127324160
Rising Storm 2 sucks. I played the beta and it has serious issues, Rising Storm 1 is better.
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>>127325337
B-17 B FOR BURGER
LANCASTER OR RIOT
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Nice

1 big quality campaign is better than 2 short ones

More time for character and plot development

Also why play as the biggest loser in history?
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> White washing history to make yourself feel better.

Worse than the Nazis they don't want you to play.
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>>127325553

Solzhenitsyn at one point says that the Gestapo tortured people to get true confessions, but the NKVD tortured people to get false ones.
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>>127321573
Wait if you can't play as Nazis how is multiplayer going to work? Allies vs. Allies?
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>>127325498

Except that's a strategy game and they're not doing a sequel for it in the foreseeable future sadly. Shame too, I thought it had great potential as a franchise.

The idea I'm talking about would kinda have to be an FPS because an FPS is a far more personal experience, especial in regards to location and character interaction.
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>>127321573
I'm disappointed, but not surprised.
Nuance is hard. Cartoonish villains are easy.
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>>127325828
You're missing out by dismissing WiC just because its a RTS. I highly recommend playing it because the characters are fucking top notch.
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>>127321573
Well the online surely will. They rarely let you play on the 'bad' side, BF1 was an oddity
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>>127325597

lol

Lancasters are far more aesthetic aircraft tbqh
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Wait...
Then who do we fight in multiplayer? Other american soldiers?

The fame does not include the war in the pacific at all, so it aint japs. What is happening
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>>127325955

I have WiC and I loved it. But it's a 10 year old game and the developer shut down 9 years ago. So we're probably not getting a sequel/spinoff ever.
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>>127326051
ngl boeings are pretty based but lanc looks better imo
and you know the lanc can carry a blockbuster bomb too
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>>127326051
>>127326275
>Lancasters are far more aesthetic aircraft tbqh
>ngl boeings are pretty based but lanc looks better imo
>not the Halifax

>>127326164
>developer shut down 9 years ago
They're working on The Division.
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>>127325782
paddy have you ever played world at war
ofc you can play as the axis just in mp
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>>127326275

You mean the "cookie"?
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>>127321573
Why would you want to larp as a looser?
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>>127325206

>firebombing Dresden to oblivion while God Save the King plays on the aircraft mini radio

>tilt the camera to the side and there's a small picture of ACM Harris on the fuselage, compelling you to continue your holy mission

I'd buy it in a heartbeat
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>>127322082

Wait you can play as a Jap? They did worse to the Chinese than the Germans did to anybody.
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>>127326087
The other team will always appear as nazis and you will always appear as a good goy.

Stop playing shitty videogames made by sjw cunts.
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>>127322238
I know, assholes make the campaign around Hurtgen Woods and won't even let us play on the side that won that battle
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>>127325972
Even bf 1 they didnt let you play german campaign. Right? They need to stop this shunning of germans. I bet most libs these days actually walk arround thinking that ww1 was fought against nazies
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>>127326397

Apparently Massive Entertainment got absorbed into Ubisoft and now work on Ubisoft projects exclusively. So yeah, we're probably not getting a sequel ever, same with Brothers in Arms.
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>>127325694
1453
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So it's the same as all the other WW2 CoDs then? What is everyone crying about? If you want to play as the losers they'll let you do it in the multiplayer as usual.
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>>127321573
>call of duty
>realistic

Sure, why not.
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>>127325857
That was a fucking great series. Its too hard for kike movie directors or game studios to make stuff like that anymore of course so all we get is (((SPIELBERG))) tier garbage.
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This is why you play Red Orchestra 2 instead.
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>>127326772
Its a shame but nothing awful, it wasn't left on a cliffhanger so I don't mind.
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>>127326500

medkit knows
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>>127321573
Stop playing vidya and SORT YOURSELF OUT!
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1941
>all germans are nazis
1945-2016
>not all germans were nazis
2016-today
>all germans were nazis
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>>127326643
>Hurtgen Woods
have you tried forgotten hope 2 ? i loved the Nafrican maps more but this one was pretty decent . im pretty sure community is dead by now. however there's a spiritual successor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk406b57rzU
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>>127326811
just like battlefield 1 with the nog brigades
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>>127326766

BF1 could probably get away with it if they let you play as someone under the command of Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck because "muh strong Africans". Also, Vorbeck was famous to his denouncing Nazism in later life for its racism.
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>>127326812
Some of the funniest shit about it was how butthurt some people were over the lack of holocaust related content in the series
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Fuck you kikes! i wanna play as a German!
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>>127321573
What about those who risked everything fighting commies and jews/americans? Are you saying that finns fighting in ww2 were just "nazis"?
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>>127327200
Probably why I only see WWII films that are foreign made; there's a sense of balance to them that even the best of the stuff made here can't quite match. 9 April for instance.
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>>127327300
Come play red orchestra 1&2
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>>127327200

>OY VEY THEY DIDN'T MAKE AN ENTIRE EPISODE ABOUT NAZI DEATH CAMPS

They pretty made the fate of European Jews pretty fucking obvious i.e. the Jewish character showing up at his parents house and finding another family living there.
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>>127324942
At least it cant possibly be as bad as Battlefield 1
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>>127321573
Was there an axis/nazi campaign in previous CoDs? I don't recall playing anything other than britbong/burger/ivan
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>>127326928

Yeah, they made it pretty clear that the US ultimately wins WW3, or at the very least both sides agreed to a status quo antebellum arrangement.
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>>127321573
But nazis have the best girls!
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>>127321573
>Aside from keeping things realistic and allowing players to potentially rewrite history
You could just play the losers in the war.
>Start out as German soldier in Belarus just before Operation Bagration
>Fight across the eastern front as Germany loses territory
>Eventually you division attempts to hold off the Russians while evacuating civilians across the Elbe
>Final mission is retreating across the Elbe alive to surrender to the allies

Regardless call of duty is THE most normie video game, it is unsurprising that they wouldn't have a nazi campaign.
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Idk why this is even note worthy.
There are no mainstream FPS series that have ever had a campaign from the Axis POV.
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>>127321573
How about the Multiplayer?
Team Deathmach? What's it gonna be? Allies killing each other?
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>>127321573
Did nagasaki fix the posting error yet?
I want to say that this is fucking bullshit. You can play as a transgender nigger bitch or some shit, but can't play a righteous nationalist unbbermench?
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>>127321573
Aside from all the political nonsense, what will they do for multiplayer? Also, we had an alliance of sorts with the Russians, who were fighting the nazis at the same time, will they be absent?
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>>127327849
>they made it pretty clear that the US ultimately wins WW3
No they didn't. The US repulsed the invasion but Europe was still mostly controlled by the Soviets and China had just thrown their lot in with the Soviets too.
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>>127321573
Yeah because the Nazis where all 100% literally Hitler
Its not like they weren't actual humans or anything,with feelings or dreams/ambitions!
Yeah fuck history, we won't let you play as the other side,that might just break the veils of our lies!
NO SYMPATHY FOR NAZIS!!!!
ALL NAZIS WHERE LITRALLY HITLER!!!!!
fucking kill me,I'd will stick to VERDUN/red orchestra which are a billions times better in every regard
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>>127321573
Then I'll lose everytime. I'll fucking kill myself. That's what the west ended up doing anyway, so it's not like I'm making up a completely different history.
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>>127328450

The America narrator speaks of the war in a somewhat positive light whereas the Russian one seems to lament the events of the game. Implying that the invasion of the United States was the turning point that eventually led to the USSR's defeat or collapse. If the Soviets had won, the Russian narrator would have been far more boastful.
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I have never played a single one of these games. Have they ever let you play as a Nazi? If so, which games? If not, then why is this a problem to begin with?
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>>127321573
How can you have ww2 without nazis?
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Just fucking play Day of Infamy and slaughter autistic Australians on Crete or something.

Also, Sudden Strike 4 is coming out soon, and it always has great German campaigns.
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Argument: 'The Jews are the major war criminals of World War II, not the Nazis.' ((which would be a good thread, eh? I'd start but my threads all die fsr so Im just a newishfqg replier these days))

Thats the argument of a book which was linked here, which I actually started reading out of sheer nowhere to go boredom, and now I am 'you guys gotta read this' guy for it.

You really just need to give it like 10 pages...

you'll see.


https://archive.org/details/TheWorldConquerors-TheRealWarCriminals1958


After that, Douglad Reed's 'The Controversy of Zion'


https://www.controversyofzion.info/
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>>127327875

>nazis
>best girl

Nigger please
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>>127321573
Someone's going to learn where their audience is... the hard way.
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Red Orchestra is the only WWII FPS that doesn't suck liberal dick. The first one even had the SS defending Berlin.
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>>127328889
The American narrator speaks positively because they just repelled an invasion, the Russian one laments because their invasion was just repulsed. Nothing hints at the defeat or collapse of the USSR though because they have Scandinavia, Western Germany and China taken most of continental Asia.
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>>127329224
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>>127329224

>pregnant Anne Frank

When did this become a thing?
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>>127321573
Did any of you retards ever play a WW2 call of duty game? They've never let you play as nazis
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>>127329948

Even in the European section of the campaign, the Soviet narrator seems saddened ("It was... Inevitable.") as if he feels that his sacrifices were for nothing. Exactly the kind of feeling you get when you lose a war.

Also, the narration is implied to be set in the present day (late 2000s) and both of them are reflecting on their experiences. Hence why they sound much older (40s at minimum).
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>>127324298
>That could still be really good if done well.

Hasn't CoD previously had characters you play be killed off whilst you're in control?
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>>127331288

They avoided doing it until CoD4 now they do it practically every game.
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>>127321573
What about the Nazis who risked and lost everything?

The left is great at dehumanizing opposing ideologies.
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>>127327069
lol damn, forgot all about this, does anyone still play this game?

And yea, that map was hard as fuck to beat as the US, Hurtgen Woods was one of those times the Wehrmacht undeniably BTFO the US, it was a meat grinder
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>>127322238
Reminder that other cods aren't based on real missions or characters.

You don't play the regime as a whole, and could play an offshoot of it that lead an unrecorded winning event or two.
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>>127322238
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>>127324322
>But they've never let you play as a German in a CoD campaign and they're not going to start now.

Why? Are they racist?
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>>127328817
Dont do it. You will respawn as a fucking anglo.
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>>127332066

I would pay to watch Bear Grylls be gassed tbqh
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>>127322478
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Nazi
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So you only can do what Call of Duty has always been: an american ranger shooting innocent europeans with help of communists.
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>>127323213
In csgo there is some maps where you play as idf
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>>127331897
I know 2's American missions were based on the accounts of individual soldiers.
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Empire Earth let you play as Germany in WW2. You even got to invade the UK in the last mission.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otD52qwC9xw
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Getting half the single player content is so progressive
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Just play Red Orchestra 2 if you want a realistic WW2 experience.
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What good is a WW2 shooter if you can't play the Nazis?
I mean you could just watch one of the ten thousand WW2 movies instead.
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>>127332512
*jidf
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>>127331148
But Romanov was part of the failed invasion and served under a commander who openly opposed the invasion too, its not stupid to think that such a person would also think that it was a bad idea.
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>>127321573
Seriously, even with all the hate about the futuristic and generic setting of CoD Infinite Warfare I bought it and still love to play the multiplayer. In my opinion a good and well balanced game.

But I'm definitely not going to buy WWII just to play that awful boring US campaign again. Dday again, etc. all the same shit again with better graphics. This and that I have to kill my own anchestors so Murricans can "respect" their soldiers.

I just wait some months until they throw out the multiplayer standalone version where you can play the Nazis for cheaper money. Their single player modes suck anyway.
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im playing heroes and generals is free on and germany is currently winning
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>>127333506
in steam*
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>>127322238
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>>127322238
You meant,
>wanting a whole campaign of you making feats against overwhelming odds and defeating your enemies with your righteous anger until your glorious leader stop being a retarded and you don't win those resources you needed so much and then starting to get pushed in/freezing to death
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>>127321573

>Future games are repeating the 80's no genuine ideas shittrain from cinema.
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>>127322238
>he doesn't want a realistic game
what are you, jewish?
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This is news why?
Iirc nine of cock of duty's shit games have ever let you play has Germans except in multiplayer
Because they're shit
Medal of Honor Frontline and Airborne Assault is what you wanna play if you actually enjoy WW2 shooters. Rising Sun if you want to murder japs
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>>127321573

wait, so legit question - what's the PVP all about? just a bunch of allied infighting? seems a little bit disrespectful "to all those who risked everything to defeat the Nazis"
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>>127322238
>First 7 years of the war was literally everyone but the Germans getting raped
>Last 3 years was when they started having issues
>This is what you focus on
Shut up kike
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>>127322669
Fag of duty has ALWAYS been Russiboo simulator
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>>127321573
If you wanna play Nazi just download the moonman Doom Wads holy shit.

In Wolfenstein: The New Order you shoot the Nazis and its one of my favorite games ever.
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>>127334628

>ww2 lasted 10 years

>>127334706

Except the entire Modern Warfare series which is Russophobic to the extreme...
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>>127335398

I was disappointed that BJ didn't fuck that teenage Jewish lesbian in the Old Blood and make more little soldiers in the fight against National Socialism.
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>>127322990
>If you really wanted to play as a jew you'd get Ashtray simulator 1939
AHAHAHAHA
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>>127322803
Let's do an OpenRCT2 Mod
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>>127322238
who let you to leave the oven?
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>>127336275
Holocaust didn't happen, don't perpetuate it even with jokes
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>>127325021
Because the people who run everything ARE commies
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>>127321573
This is why I will not buy this game

I want to play as un german
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>>127325021
And actually if you dress as a Nazi here and fly one of their flags you won't hear a single word unless you're in a liberal shithole city(and even then most are too fuckin pussy to say anything to you)
Alternatively if you dress like a commie and fly a soviet flag in Dixie you will have people either try to beat the shit out of you or harass you until you leave
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>>127337152

Based Dixie
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>>127322238
Just remember that it was more then 7 million little heeb and all the holohoaxers say it didn't happen just to make you cry
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>>127325206
You can be a piece if shit all you want eternal Anglo, just know that we are cheering your destruction and conversion to a caliphate for what you've done
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It's time to start larping on NeoGAF that Counter Strike needs to remove the terrorist team because of how many people have died at the hands of terrorists.
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Did you guys even know that People on the Balkans like Germans mostly for the Nazi period? Croatioans,Slovenes,Bosniaks,Albanians,Bulgarians,Romanians and Hungarians were their comrades and the Serbs aren't even angry at the Germans for killing mostly innocent civilians, as it was wartime and the way they killed was not even brutal in their opinion. They even admire the Wehrmacht for the soldiers discipline. Only Jews,Poles and cucked Anglo-Saxons think Nazi's were that bad. Awkwardness at it's finest.
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>>127321573
What would be wrong with showing historic battles from the position of a German soldier? The idea that you could "rewrite history" is utterly nonsensical. The developers decide what is possible in the campaign, how hard is it to have a few levels where you play as a German that ultimately lead to the player being overrun and killed by Russians or something?

Seriously, wouldn't it be interesting and unique to be able to play a few campaign missions as a German rather than redoing the same safe bullshit we've played in countless WW2 shooter campaigns? It would give more variety as you wouldn't just be jumping back and forth between fighting Germans and Japanese, you'd have the possibility of basically every faction in the war as enemies. It would be much more interesting than just "fight these Germans as an American, now go fight these Germans as a Russian, now go fight these Germans as a Brit."
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Multiplayer is the only reason ill get this.

Fuck campaigns in any modern game.
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>>127321573
#notallnazis
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>>127321573
It was the only thing I was expecting for that game.
In Battlefield 1's campaign you never play as a German. That also pissed me off.

The winner writes the history guys.
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>>127325021

Continuing with the video game thing, I've noticed that Swastikas get bitched a shit ton more than the hammer and sickle or other symbols that are associated with communism.
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>>127323953

Red Orchestra?
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>>127323953
Dino D-Day.
You can play as the Nazi dinosaurs with machine guns. It is fucking awesome.
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Why can't people view history objectively?
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>>127321573
Well, that's a shame. I really wanted to be the Nazi for once.
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>>127338696
>In Battlefield 1's campaign you never play as a German.

Which is especially bullshit because the entire fucking narration of the intro is about how everyone in the war is a human and has their own story.

UNLES THEYR EBIL NAZIS, FUCK THOSE SUBHUMANS

Fuck DICE.
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>>127339528
Because 6 trillion.
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>>127339528
because for at least 85% of people, the time spent in public schools to learn history is the only time in their lives that they engage with the subject.

For many people on this earth, History started the day they were born. They have no fucking clue who Charlemagne is.
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>>127323953
MetroLL, only for a DLC mission but hey, mowing countless commies was most pleasant.
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>>127339793
They're not even Nazis. They are just German, and fighting against bongs and burguers.
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>>127325553
ok lets take a step back here.

When we see this kind of crap from testimonials about the holocaust, we rightfully assume its bullshit.

So why wouldn't this man's testimony be bullshit as well?
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>>127340053
All germans are nazis anon
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>>127340053
You know damn well that anytime Germany does anything even slightly warlike or even has a right leaning opinion that they are Nazis.
Even if it was before there were Nazis.
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>>127339822
>>127339883

The point I'm making is that "right and wrong" is completely irrelevant in a historical context. The events simply happened.
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This is fucking racist against Germans (Atleast for the uncucked ones). The soldiers who fought in the Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS were all heroes. They did committ crimes, but even the allied soldiers raped more than the Germans and bombed the shit out of them. Then the People were short on Food after the war, which caused starvation.Also there was a German genocide, did you even know? Just watch "Ethnic Germans- A forgotten Genocide" The Czechs killed 1 Million Germans in Bohemia and Moravia, the Poles killed 670k in Silesia, and even more in Pomerania, Prussia,Brandenburg, Posen and Central Poland. And they also killed 500k Germans in the Balkans and about 2,5 Million Germans in the Soviet Union. Overall they killed as much German civilians as Germans killed others in the Holocaust. And do you even know German marching Songs, they sang about Things like flowers and Girls wanting to stay up early, even modern Pop Songs are harder. The also had emotions. This is insulting. This also Counts for WW1, were Hitler served with an Jewish officer :P The Americans invaded Germany for economic interest while the Germans fought communism and imperialism of Russians and British. They wanted to serve their Fatherland, what shoeld they have done otherwise, fight ith the Americans?! Modern Game developers can suck my dick, this should be a scandal, because this is racist, not BF1 with too much blacks. You dishonored every fallen.
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>>127321573
This game is a mass murdering simulator against fine German men. Most of them just tried to defend the Vaterland.
I'm literally shaking right now. This game is highly offensive against Germans.

It's racist!

No really, I refuse to shoot German soldiers, even in games. My grandfather fought in WW2 and most of these guys weren't even nazis. Also I won't buy anything from the greedy kike company known as Activision-Blizzard.
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>>127321573
Just buy Cooking Mama and pretend the ingredients are kikes
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>>127340339
>"right and wrong" is completely irrelevant in a historical context
It's almost as if you think the purpose of a CoD game is to be historically accurate and objective rather than to sell copies.
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>>127340198

Because a lot of the atrocities did occur.
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>>127340198
The body count of the Soviets is pretty well known. Besides which, these things aren't really all that imaginative. Stomping somebody's dick into a pulp with jackboots is unbearably cruel, but it doesn't in any way match the absurdity of the Holocoaster or the human skin lampshades or the jew-devouring bear and eagle.
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>>127322366
Join my server anon.
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>>127340538
>Baking Shlomo

Ftfy
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>>127340560

I'm saying that skipping over some of the most intense and brutal action in history to be politically correct has the potential to make the game less appealing to players my good Juden.
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>>127333506

>pre-ww11
>ww11

Are you living in a different universe Pedro ?
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>>127321573

>Dropped.
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>>127323213
PR is the shit, when PRww2 comes it will be even better
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>>127321573
A German campaign is long overdue. Whatever dev/publisher that finally does it is guaranteed a big bump in sales for it.

>>127324054
Because we want it. We need it. It's time.

>>127324557
>I mean I think we all know that everyone wants to play a WW2 shooter campaign from the Japanese or German perspective.
This. I think a fresh take like that would be very successful.
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>>127323953
In STR genre there is Company of Heroes

Pretty good game too
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So we are guilty for an mentally, disordered German from Austria with no passport for the Reich, who wanted to save the German People. Seems legit. Well ever heard about Pilsudski and Miedzy Morze (The Grea-Polish Lithuanian Empire) or Stalins Plans and Genocides. And the Americans attacked German ships while not beeing at war with them and then invaded a Country 11.000km away from their coast for "liberation". And then forced Germany into a trade Union (the EU)with an worthless currency (11% weaker than the D-Mark could be currently) with an Banking controled economy, supported by Inflation-increasing fiat-Money from the federal bank. The jews are ok but the modern israel-Lobby is awful.
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>>127340752
>potential to make the game less appealing to players
First of all, you're just moving the goalpost now. You were originally bemoaning the fact that history isn't portrayed objectively... in a pleb-tier video game. Secondly, these things take a lot of money to produce, and I have a hunch that they know the tastes of their target audience better than you do and don't want to waste money trying to appeal to edgy kids.
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>>127321573
>those who risked everything to defeat the Nazis."
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>>127328706

>Implying Hitler was not human and did not have feelings and dreams and ambitions.
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>>127341523
Don't forget the whole brainwashing and indoctrination part about the "evil" German patriotism.
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>>127340593
>its more plausible that it happened so I believe it did.

stomping someones dick with jackboots seems ridiculous to me and if there no proof besides one man's eyewitness testimony then I can't be inclined to believe it, or else I lose credibility. I'm not discounting the body count though, just the hard faith in eyewitness testimony.

>>127340564
proofs
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>>127325218
The us "military" are a bunch of whiny manlets larping as soldiers. Thank god for the us military so we can send all the manlets and ugly people to war, so real men can cuck them and breed some real children while theyre off singing gay ass songs and bitching about muh pee tee esshh dee
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>>127341614

>moving the goalposts
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>>127321573
>Soviet repression killed tens of millions
>Can still represent the USSR no prob
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>>127341824

t. civillianfag who's never handled a weapon
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>>127341714
It's not just that it's more plausible as an act, it's that there's a plausible reason for it to have occurred. It doesn't require a massive leap of the imagination to come up with a motive for these torturers. Extracting confessions (usually false) out of a person through torture is a well-documented practice throughout history.

Shoving 40 jews into a mining cart and rolling them down a track into a waiting oven is comically evil on the face of it, and appears to serve no real purpose. If they wanted them dead, there are plenty of more efficient ways to do this. The motive for presumably many thousands of Germans to decide to spend their days dreaming up more and more imaginative means of murdering jews, poles and gypsies remains unclear to me.
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>>127340560
It's far from moral to Show the killing of so many men for Profit reasons. If you want to use a historical Story, then be fair and accurate. They should at least consider that it is what it is :American Propaganda. This is dishonoring the fallen. We dont't Need the creation of victim roles, but the destruction of such cuckoldry. They loved Hitler because SURPRISINGLY HE HELPED GERMANS. And they had no ther state to fight for so this is pure cuckoldry and racism. Oh I just can't await the SJW reaction to the game. Battlefield 1 already showed complete degenracy with futuristic uniform and "tactics". This Shows that currently most of the Americans and british ( and their slaves) think Germans were bad in all wars. This is a Problem, not those ridicoulos Micro-aggresions. I'd now really like to rape 20% of all American college pussies. (Because These numbers were faked, sadly). I hate These bastards of the Anglo-Saxon-Jewish communist New world order.
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>>127340302
Battlefield 1 is about WWI.
There were no nazis back then.
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>>127321573
Anyone that played the WaW campaign sure remembers how nice the russians were.
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>>127321573
As expected its total jewish bullshit
the deepest ww2 game ive ever played was silent hunter 3, where you play as the germans stuck in a uboat in the cold hard atlantic
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>>127339793
They do let you have a mild backstory in operations, and it's fairly interesting to show the clarity of mind experienced German shock troopers have compared to green horn Americans. No fear of death, calm resolve, reminded me of the monologues from all quiet on the western front
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>>127342195
>tries to weasel his way out of it like a dirty kike

Your question was:
>Why can't people view history objectively?

The correct answer is: nobody cares about historical accuracy or objectivity in a a pleb-tier videogame.

>b...but what if some people really wanted to play the nazis?

Apparently not enough of them to be worth the extra burden, and even if I were wrong, the reason to include a Nazi campaign still wouldn't be objectivity. Now stop being a faggot.
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They won't do it, because if they made the levels good and you got attached to the characters and their struggles, you might end up sympathizing with the nazis in real life.

If you actually got to play as a nazi, you'd be setting fire to a Jewish orphanage after locking all the windows and doors shut while jerking off. That's the only way you'd get to play a nazi.
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>>127340444

I agree with Herman vonWordSalad
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>>127321573
WTF i wanted to play as a nazi machine-gunner at Omaha beach.
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Which cod ever let you be a nazi in the multiplayer???? WHy are you mad at least you get to be them in multiplayer <3
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>>127321573
>Muh lawful good allied forces freeing the land from the evil demon nazi alien occupation

Where's the respect for my grandfather that got drafted with 18 to fight on the western front?
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>>127342554

t. manlet who uses the military as a cover up for his insecurities
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>>127342685
>It's far from moral to Show the killing of so many men for Profit reasons.
What does it have to do with morality? You realize shooting virtual 3D characters isn't actually hurting anyone, right?

>If you want to use a historical Story, then be fair and accurate.
Educational material should be fair and accurate. Something that's expected to be taken seriously should be fair and accurate. Why should a videogame be fair and accurate?

>They should at least consider that it is what it is :American Propaganda. This is dishonoring the fallen.
I have no idea what the plot for this game actually is. For all I know, it is "American propaganda". But not including a Nazi campaign doesn't "dishonor" anybody in and of itself.
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>>127343311
will there ever be a game that features a 16 yr old boy who was convinced he had a duty to enlist so he lies about his age to join only to end up curled up and crying inside a foxhole he had to dig with his bare hands until his nails fell off?
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>>127344148
"no"
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>>127343243
>tfw you will never mow down American crypto jews at Omaha beach

feels bad man
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>>127321573
I always hated this game for this reason; why can't I pick sides?
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>>127344148
Probably when everyone is done with the edgy cool lone wolf american combat machine that singlehandly tore bunkers out of the normandy.

[spoiler]never[/spoiler]
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>>127321573
you never could play as a nazi in single player before. what's the point?
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>>127344976
God dammit I didn't know I'm on /pol/
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>>127343634
dude, you cunts invented muh holocaust from whole cloth, you're opinions are ALWAYS invalid, misleading kikery - put that in ur satanic talmud and get smoked
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>>127340198

He just told you "for signed confessions". American cops will hook your balls up to a car battery to get a confession, how is it unbelievable that the fuckin Soviets...a mostly Jewish party, remember...would do even worse?

There's no evidence for the Holohoax other than eye-witness accounts. The bars of soap, lampshades and book-bindings of human skin, etc have all been disproven and even Holocaust """historians""" refute them.

The only camps declared "death camps" were in Soviet territory. Put 2 and 2 together.

The only myth left is the one which all the money relies on: the gas chambers, and it's an open secret that those are absolute bullshit.
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>>127345027
kek it happens
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>>127344148

All for Jewish bankers, no less.
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>>127323505
lol

and if we include WW1, russian civil war and WW2 casualties, then 85 million people died unnaturally in those 5 decades. ie 1/2 the population. So each family must have had 15 kids to create the recorded population that actually existed.

>this makes sense in your mind
>muh 66 million with 0 evidence
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>>127345127
Not an argument.
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>>127334628
>>First 7 years of the war was literally everyone but the Germans getting raped
>>Last 3 years was when they started having issues

USSR was doing pretty well until 1941. Then really well 1943 onwards.
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>>127322238
I dont want to play as the Russians
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>>127343311

When you fight for a government that literally gasses mentally disabled children (Aktion T4), people tend to associate you with their crimes and see you as the criminal.

Unfair? Absolutely. But an unfortunately reality of life.
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>>127324197
>he browses /pol/ but looks down on video game players
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>>127347184
You seem pretty comfortable to live and fight and post under the flag of the only nation that used Nuclear Weapons against human targets.
Brits are pretty cool about Dresden too.
French don't even mind Napoleon.
Turks still deny the armenian genocide and are welcomed with open arms as an example of a modern islamic republic.
Russians and Chinks killed more innocent people than muh Holocaust and muh cripple killers.

Don't pretend the US is a continent of white knights in silver armor rescuing the world. In recent history you probably did more warcrimes and crimes against your own people than every other nation on earth.
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>>127347906

You don't think people give us Americans shit about Hiroshima and Nagasaki too? Hell a lot of Americans give themselves shit about it.

Some of the most ardent critics of the use of the atomic bomb are Americans. The Japanese on the other hand seem fairly quiet on the matter.
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>>127326582
>muh war crimes
Fuck you cuck, japan did nothing wrong. America on the other hand did an illegal atomic bombing killing millions of whites.
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>>127348680
You shouldn't point your fingers at other nations if you have dirt under the carpet in your own country. That's all I'm saying.
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>>127324279
>.75 pennies
wow, fucking jews
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>>127349200
>implying japan did anything wrong
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>>127349200

That's why I said it completely unfair to give modern Germans shit for WW2. But that doesn't mean people won't stop doing it.

Prejudice is among the most universal of human traits. It's not right when you do it to Jews, it's not right when we do it to you. But it happens all the same.
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>>127321573
Who cares, we have Red Orchestra 2 and sweet sweet sounds of communists dying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poz3SE0pzdc&feature=youtu.be&t=3m57s

3:57 and 15:55 the best.
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Hey I just saw what anglo-american fake-culture and Immigration did to the local super market. I went with my serb uncle to an evenings buyingtrip and encountered mostly middle eatsern turco-arabic foreigners and German White trash, most were fat or ugly and the only germnan blonde women had a pink Dress, but was accompanied by a nigger in adididas sports wear. And all cashiers were fat women, mostly polish and sometimes german. And this was made possible by Merkel and her jewish banker gang who supported this Lifestyle. Thanks allied powers for replacing National Socialism with this... ah.. thing.
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>>127347906
History is written by the winners. You are a loser, sorry. It's just how it is
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>>127349681
No, not modern germans. It's retarded and unrespectful to give the majority of german soldiers in WW2 that bullshit. They followed orders just as your soldiers did. Connecting their memory only to warcrimes is disgusting. Saying it's unrespectful to play them in a game is disgusting.

>>127350292
You are a loser too. Only the Jews won in the war.
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>>127321573
>who risked everything to defeat the Nazis

(((They))) know not everyone understands the difference between Wehrmacht and SS (Nazis).
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>>127350292
> Do you still feel like a winner?

>>127321573
We were more a background artist in the fps game. So it's just logically. Hollywood and the game industry are always correct. But - respect is something every soldier deserves, fighting for his fatherland.
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At least you can win war as Japanese admiral.
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>>127350890
>>127350487
Stop being edgy, I'm talking in context of WWII. The allies won and therefore our war crimes are ignored. If Germany won, the holocaust wouldn't have been a problem.
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>>127343634
Well it's not moral to show a historical event, in which thousands of good men let their live for a serious cause (Their Homeland) as an heroic Liberation of the Germans by the good Americans and Brits. It is ridicoulos and insulting to those who died. If a German Veteran saw, that after 6 years of struggle during the war, fighting,dying and giving everything he had up for the sake of victory, his grandson would shoot dousends of Wehrmacht-soldiers on a computer screen, I bet he would'nt be that happy.
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>>127323607
How does one "portray" the holocaust? It's just prisoners starving and being sick because the supply lines are cut and Germans get food priority.
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>>127321573
The last good WWII game coming in.
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>>127347906

>japs
>human
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>>127351079
>Stop being edgy
Are you retarded? Hold on... you are a brit. Forget that question.

>Our war crimes are ignored
They shouldn't be in a game that claims to be respectful to the soldiers and people that fought in the war. It's long over and you should have matured in that time maybe come to terms with them and realizing that nobody cares anymore except for a silent minute each year.

>>127351278
Little holocoasters full of jews driving endless amount of carts into automatic house-sized ovens while a nazi ss officer is doing scary lighting with his jewkiller1488 flashlight.
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>>127322238
the irony...
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>>127351079
Braveheart - "The history is always written by the winner"
You are right, bro.

I wouldn't blame your warcrimes. War is war. Done is done. A question is: We have paid all of your contracts and conditions with land, cash and blood. The Japanese haven't paid anything. Why there wasn't a official happening in Versailles - or so? With the Brits, the Russians, the French, the U.S., the Poles. A official event to say: We are quit.
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>>127348917
>illegal
We warned them countless times.
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>>127333875
this
junkie retard should have stayed in politics and let people like rommel handle the military.
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>>127351149
>Well it's not moral
That's just like... your opinion, man. If it was a South Korean game where you mow down hordes of "evil" North Korean soldiers, nobody on this board would give a fuck, but when it comes to soldiers who fought in the name of your own cancerous ideology, suddenly you have a giant butt boo-boo about it.
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Can't we just agree that the banning of Germans or any other Nation in a war game, to prevent some SJW cucks from getting triggered is complete bullshit. I mean we're /pol/ we are there to protect the rights of the offenders.
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>>127332404
truly a redpilled masterpiece
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>>127321573
The left won gamergate
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>>127323213

I am still fucking pissed Ubisoft caved to complaints and removed the planned Israeli spec ops dlc for Rainbow Six. Instead we get fucking nobody-Spainish operators instead of ops from a country that removes kebab on a daily basis.
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>>127352593
What I wanted to say is that it is unfair to represent the americans but not the Germans, because they were the evil Nazis, while the Americans also committed attrocitties. And yes, this is my opinion, we are debatting to see what view can be considered to be near to the facts and thus A-Ok and whose opnions are just dipshit making no sense. Or did the was this changed that after the war? Is truth now only avaible for 300 shekels?
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>>127321573
All German military personnel were Nazis, but not all Muslims are terrorists.
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>>127351903
It's not an irony though
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>>127353321
Yessir
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>>127353779
The f*ck not. You were a nazi if you believed in Hitler and Mein Kampf and considered yourself Nationalsocialist. Same with beeing muslim, believe in Allah,Quran and the Haddits and consider yourself muslim.
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>Aside from keeping things realistic and allowing players to potentially rewrite history

Guys if this computer game let users play as Nazis it would literally bring Hitler back to life and gas all the jews worldwide.

We can't let a modder get ahold of this somehow.
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>>127353779

and what percentage of Nazis gassed jews?

the correct answer is either zero percent or less than one percent.

your argument fails badly
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>>127321573
>WWII Campaign Won't Let Players Be Nazis

This was never the case.
No COD has ever let you played Nazis during the campaign. They've said nothing about multiplayer, and who gives a single fuck about a three hour tutorial that you know the ending to, anyway?

>>127322238
Exactly.
>Here's a story where the main character loses horribly, have fun
Bad business. Go America.
Unpatriotic faggots.
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>>127321573
There's few WW2 games that let you play as the Nazis anyway.
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>>127345896
>leaf thinks his shit opinion matters
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>>127353703
>What I wanted to say is that it is unfair to represent the americans but not the Germans
Okay, but what makes you think anyone is obliged to represent Germans "fairly"?

>we are debatting to see what view can be considered to be near to the facts and thus A-Ok and whose opnions are just dipshit making no sense
I'm not making any claims on the matter one way or another. I'm just questioning your opinion, and you're not doing a very good job justifying it, so we only have your opinion to work with, and so far looks like it's just "dipshit making no sense", as you put it.

>Is truth now only avaible for 300 shekels?
What are you talking about? Why is it the responsibility of mindless entertainment to represent "truth"? Who plays CoD to learn about history?
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>>127322238
Surely the entire campaign would just be gassing Jews. Right? R-right?
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>>127356061
Look, we understand, you're the eternal victim.
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>>127322238
>not wanting to play an oven simulator
top kike
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>>127351079

We live in the context of WW2.

You lost. Only the Jewish bankers won. Now you're a police state because sovereignty is so racist and you have to take in 3rd world savages.

You fucked up. Now reap your reward.
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>>127356621
>Be under a one-world Nazi regime

Hahaha, fuck no.
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>>127351353
excuse me
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Damn, I miss KZ Manager on C64. This was a game were you could play a German.
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>>127356406
>MUH JOOZ
Nice deflection, faggot. The discussion wasn't about the six gorillion. I'm asking you why you think that every piece of mindless entertainment has some kind of moral obligation to portray as anything more than generic cannon fodder bad guys. Literally just answer the question.
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>>127357854
to portray Nazis*
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>>127327592
>9 April

Looks awesome. Know of anything else like that?
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>>127350292
We're all losers thanks to Churchill.
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>>127321573
Getting people more comfortable with the idea of rewriting history. We 1984 now.
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>>127358280
>Getting people more comfortable with the idea of rewriting history.
Maybe if they try hard enough, the general public will become as comfortable with it as the average /pol/ poster.
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