Daily reminder that this man is the reason why the world is in

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yeah because catholics are none for their free speech and disassociation with communists.

known

He called out the Jews, so I doubt it was his fault.

Yeah, ironic that during this time the Renaissance happened, oh yeah and also America happened. Fuck off catholic fag

>>127314013
Like I said, the catholic church stopped being apostolic long before they indirectly caused martin luther to chimp out and start the idea tgat anyone can create any church any doctrine without apostolic succession. The catholic church today is just an extreme liberalized version of itself and has been influenced by the modern western world shaped by martin luthers protestant movement.

>>127314151
Im oriental orthodox bro

>oh know this text is far too complex for me, let me place full faith in a 7000 mile away dementia patient who has complete control over everything, he'll understand it so much better than me
>what no way how did the church become shitty and ruin a continent for a millennium, that's never happened with absolute power before
Fuck off popefag

he freed europe from the degenerated roman catholics.

all white folks must thank him every day!

>>127314645
This

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>>127314371
>modern western world

that everyone wants to live in.

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>>127313802
>implying nazism is a bad thing
you are new and you need to leave

>>127313802
>(((sola scriptura)))

>>127314645
wrong.

>>127313802
He only was a puppet but i get your point.

>>127314645
The catholic church became degenerate because they deviated away from apostolic teachings. Kinda like what the protestant movement did and now western Europe and scandanavia are more atheistic and almost as degenerative as aincient greece and Rome.

>>127315038
This.
/thread

>>127315140
They became degenerate because they broke more commandments than nonchristians. They ideolized the pope to the point of worship, made people pay to have their sins forgiven, murdered anyone who committed (((heresy))), and were a bunch of flat earther faggots.

>>127315140

If Protestants are correct about the Catholic Church then Christianity is a false religion.

>>127314936
Yea, and all those protestant countries have birth rates below replacement levels and a severly dysfunctional nation not properly handing the imvasion of muslims raping their women.

>>127314151
The 15th- 16th century Renaissance, which was a cultural movement, was already in full swing by the name Luther came around and nailed his thesis. The Reformation only brought about the age of religious wars

Jesus was essentially a Communist.

But "christians" don't really follow his teachings so it's not like it matters.

>>127315409
No, theres the eastern and oriental orthodox church whos churches in their communion were founded by each of christs 12 apostles.

>>127315409
>you think corruption is bad well then you're not Christian xd

True protestantism has never been tried.

>>127314511
Hello Constantine, how did you go from a tranny to Orthodoxy?

>>127313802
he just translated it u fuckwit

btw the christians going to america were fucking lunatics that were hunted here for varius reasons so stfu
>implying
u even read the book at all just stfu op

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>>127314371
You think the liberals are liberalifying the catholic church but it's the other way around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk6gQhKa9YQ&t=894s

>>127316004
Thats nkt what I meant. Oriental orthodoxy are the churches that split from the main church to reaffirm that christs 2 natures, his human and his divine nature, are one nature without mixture or confusion. Here are the patriarchs (or informally called popes) that have had succession from the apostkes 2000 years later.

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>>127316004

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>>127315662
I'll be waiting

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>>127315530
Well, not only protestant nations actually.

>>127314936
We are/were like 50% catholic.

>>127313802
Well maybe if (((Yahweh))) wasn't such a hipster faggot he could have just written the instruction manual in plain language with no need for interpretation.

>>127315038
Saging a crap thread and giving a (you) for Luther's book

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>>127313802
>letting people get the truth is bad

>>127316638
Yea and now youre letting the muhammedans rape your women and kids and no orthodox country isnt.

>>127317154
You missunderstand me, I support martin luthers exposure if the catholic church, what he fucked up on was allowing anyone to read the bible and have their own private interpretation and forming their own church. Because of this the value of the christian religion has diminished in the west.

>>127313802
Butthurt heeb detected

>>127315662
>Jesus was an atheist
?

>>127313802
>The very idea of just anyone picking up a bible and interpreting anyway you want...

Here's the rub in all of this: Luther was a Catholic monk.

Moreover, Catholics built shit societies. Look at the US. Founded by Protestants. We start letting in Catholics, including your ancestors, and the whole place goes to shit. The only decent places left are short on papists.

God has clearly selected Protestant faiths as the true paths to Him. And He is punishing us for letting you people in.

>>127314371
Nah. They been buttfucking little boys and justifying it with legalistic gibberish since day 1. This goes right back to the See's Roman Pagan heritage.

Can't blame that shit on "modernity."

>>127314936
Noice. I'm taking this.

>>127317882
>Implying coptic orthodox egyot, malankara orthodox indians, Russian orthodox, romanian orthodox, amd ethiopian and Armenian orthodoxy dont exist.

>>127313802

I agree with you

The church may well have been corrupt or whatever but its power held europe together

this guy fucked everyone

>>127314013

>implying the current pope is a catholic

he is a protestant snake in the grass

t. strongly anti papist catholic

>>127315530
>Yea, and all those protestant countries have birth rates below replacement levels...

You say that like its a bad thing to not always be growing at 20% with each generation. This is where Catholics, Mormans, Quiverfull types and other assorted brown faiths show themselves to be utter retards.

>>127318214
The eastern and oriental orthodox churches arent like the roman catholic church and theyve been established by one of each of christs 12 apostles.

>>127313802
wtf I hate freedom of information now

>>127315664

Yes and coincidentally they would reject almost everything said by martin luther

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>>127313802
Luther was a cuck and probably a Satanic demon aswell

just imagine, a christian Europe, no Turks anymore and best of all: Constantinople restored to it's former glory

I'm Protestant but I respect the Catholics as fellow Christians, just as I respect the Coptics and Orthodox men of God.

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>>127315640
>religious wars
religious wars? What a time to be alive...

>>127313802
>introduces sola scriptura
>scripture does not say sola scripture in in
>introduces faith alone
>only place that mentions "faith alone" says "we are not saved by faith alone

Really makes you think

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>>127318938
Same, except for the respect part.

>>127314371
Wrong. Catholics orthodox and oriental all trace their line of succession back to the apostles

>>127317154
Catholicism is literally like getting all your news from the New York Times.

Literally.

>>127317378
Look at how much the language in your post resembles a leaked DNC email.

>>127319234
Yea, but the catholic church deviated from that.

>>127318607
They don't.


But sriously, wtf are you talking about?

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>>127313802
Luckily we have a catholic back in the white house

M-Martin Luther Kang?

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>>127313802

Actually it is/was the result of many different Power Structures either working with eachother, or battling eachother for Regional Influence/Control.

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

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>>127319543
Dees guys

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>>127319429
Nope.jpg

>>127315330
But the world is flat, why hate truth?

>>127319140

what a retarded picture. protestantism is more retarded tho

>>127317882
>Implying God exists.

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>>127319803
I went wrong around the nostratic

>>127313802
without him the church would be even shitter. even if we never had him someone would eventually have the courage to revolt.

>>127320276
>*proves God exists*
atheists (and protestantcucks) already got BTFO in the 13th century

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>>127320276
>>127320451
forgot pic

>>127320521
>*Still questions God's existence*

>>127314013
fpbp

>>127313802
Papism is nothing but pure idolatry, Priests personally forgiving the sins of others, Catholics referring to the Pope as "Holy Father" and bowing to him and kissing his Holy ring

Catholics and many Popes bowing to statues of Mary and praying to her to mediate between them and God. When the bible clearly says Mary was a sinner like everybody else.

Rampant paedophilia among Priests hurting children and many Popes going to great lengths to cover it up, its so sick and fucked up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L8rcgP_jJY

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>>127313802
>I want excommunication back.
I smell kike.

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>>127314645
you mean freed from the Holy Church while serving (((them)))?
http://memory.loc.gov/service/gdc/scd0001/2010/20100409005in/20100409005in.pdf

Jesus christ why do Germans suck Jewish cock everytime they do some jack shit?

>>127318938
You should find another board. /pol is Prots only.

Catholics destroy everything they touch in order to bring everything under the influence of the Catholic Church. They're Jews with a Christian veneer and deserve to be expelled from America and sent back to Europe where they can love Monarchy and Communism all they want, like the good little Catholics they are.

Catholics and Jews are destroying this country.

>>127314140
He didn't. All he wrote about them was common Catholic teaching back then.

>>127313802
Both catholics and protestants are equally retarded.
Catholic and protestant in unison: "THE OTHER GUY IS GUILTY FOR EVERYTHING!"

>>127319556
Luckily shes a true FL and wont be doing anything other than being the rare example of a hot menopausal woman

>>127320276
Catholic Portugal in action.

>>127313802
White men are protestant
catholics are mostly brown people, or the niggers of the white race like the irish

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>>127323869

>https://en.wikipedia DOT org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies

>In the treatise, he argues that Jewish synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes burned, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness,[2] afforded no legal protection,[3] and "these poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time.[4] He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[W]e are at fault in not slaying them".[5]

>Irish
>Polish
>Italians
>Greeks
>Spanish
>Mexicans

Gee what religion are all these countries? Really made me think...

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>This triggers the protestantcuck

>>127313802
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther's_canon
>Luther made an attempt to remove the books of Hebrews, James, Jude and Revelation from the canon (notably, he perceived them to go against certain Protestant doctrines such as sola gratia and sola fide), but this was not generally accepted among his followers. However, these books are ordered last in the German-language Luther Bible to this day.

Lets looks at places where the reformation didnt happen
>islamic states
Still shitholes
>catholic states
Still shitholes and more impoverished


Lets look at reformed protestant nation
>industrial revolution
>manufacturing
>nonarchaic laws
>western dominance

Take your shitskin southerneuropoor heresy and your HUEHUEfollowers in south america and fuck off

>>127314645
and he delivered you idiot Germans and nords to Islam! congrats you fucking shit tier iq euro jews!

>>127313802
Literally a minister of Satan.

>>127321874
but martan luthar is your neo 1550 god. ya. stfu you (((dumb prod brit))). prods can't discuss theology. you are shit tier.

>>127314511
>Im oriental orthodox bro
non-whites need to gtfo. /pol/ is forever Aryan and natsoc

Martin Luther happened because the Catholic Church was a mess. The Borgias were disgusting people. They were so bad that Julius II felt the need to bribe the Cardinals to make him Pope. He took out the Borgias and set up bankers, the Medici, to take their place. Florence became the center of Renaissance as a result and Europe was saved from the Catholic Church's iron fist. But it became clear to religious men that the banking attitude of the Medici was not Christ like, so Martin Luther stood up to the Medici's. That was why he did what he did. It was all a mess, one big giant turd sandwich. But every time Catholics rule a nation that nations turns to crap. The only reason the Renaissance happened is because bankers were in charge and not the established Catholic clergy.
Everything that came after Martin Luther and the Medici though improved the conditions of Europe even though they were the ones who disagreed with each other. Their opposing views allowed the world to escape the Catholic views that kept Europe in the dark times, and eventually turned Central and South America into hell holes.

>>127323699
you meant jews pretending to be prods in catholic threads. you prods are too dumb to know that though.

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>>127317378
> what he fucked up on was allowing anyone to read the bible and have their own private interpretation and forming their own church.

>people reading the bible, and getting inspired to build a church by personal study of God's word is a bad thing.

>Because of this the value of the christian religion has diminished in the west.

>yes, this is the reason why Christianity is diminishing in the west.

>this is what Catholics really believe.

>>127324500
Sweden Germany Norway England
>all Muslim
Fuck off dumb jew (((Enoch)))

>>127324675
10 years ago Muhammad was the hottest name in England. winning!

>>127313802
he is the devil

>>127318819
Calvin was way better than Luther indeed. Thanks to Calvin it was justified to get rid of Philips II

>>127321874
>Mary was a sinner
Where does the bible clearly say this. Enlighten me.

>>127325008
lmfao stfu kike. the world got to where it was due to Catholicism. the only thing that stopped beaners from eating their children and raping their mothers was Catholics. beaner lands were always a hellhole. Germany and Sweden and England look real good right now right kike? blame those Catholics!

>>127325677
Go fuck your cousin, flyover

>>127325468
go talk to a snake in a wooden shack and tell us what it told you about Jesus

>>127324222
Funny how protestants contradict the early Christians

>>127313802
>> Deviated away from the catholic church which has already by this time been deviated away from apostolic christianity
i am catholic and the last sentence is a pile of shit

>>127326162
weak. I'm in LA you kike. gtfo.

>>127326162
Atheism and secularism brought about change

Not protestantism

The Chinese room argument holds that a program cannot give a computer a "mind", "understanding" or "consciousness",[a] regardless of how intelligently or human-like the program may make the computer behave. The argument was first presented by philosopher John Searle in his paper, "Minds, Brains, and Programs", published in Behavioral and Brain Sciences in 1980. It has been widely discussed in the years since.[1] The centerpiece of the argument is a thought experiment known as the Chinese room.[2]

The argument is directed against the philosophical positions of functionalism and computationalism,[3] which hold that the mind may be viewed as an information-processing system operating on formal symbols. Specifically, the argument refutes a position Searle calls Strong AI:

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>>127326342
Protestant hypocrisy

>>127326305
the early Christians are laughing in heaven at all the smug dumb jew led prods burning in hell with their martan luthar gods

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>>127326521

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>>127326527
Protestants hate this

>>127326392
Searle's position is plainly true in light of his arguments. The existence of a soul, or something else beyond computationalism, is necessary to explain the human being.

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>>127314371
You would like mormonism if you could convince yourself that its origin story is canon.

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>>127326305
*eyeroll*
Hey the Catholic Internet Defense League is here! Funny how they never miss a post!

Hey bud! Good to see ya!

>>127326521
lel martan was quite literally the patreon saint of dumb jew led prods hahaha

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>>127326630
Another day, another dollar. How much does Francis pay?

>>127326053
Sure thing,
Mary recognized that she needed the Savior. The Bible never says that Mary was anyone but an ordinary human whom God chose to use in an extraordinary way. Yes, Mary was a righteous woman and favored (graced) by God (Luke 1:27-28). At the same time, Mary was a sinful human being who needed Jesus Christ as her Savior, just like everyone else (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23; 6:23; 1 John 1:8).


Nowhere in Scripture does Jesus, or anyone else, direct any praise, glory, or adoration towards Mary. Elizabeth, Mary’s relative, praised Mary in Luke 1:42-44, but her praise is based on the blessing of giving birth to the Messiah. It was not based on any inherent glory in Mary.

Mary was present at the cross when Jesus died (John 19:25). Mary was also with the apostles on the day of Pentecost (Acts 1:14). However, Mary is never mentioned again after Acts chapter 1. The apostles did not give Mary a prominent role. Mary’s death is not recorded in the Bible. Nothing is said about Mary ascending to heaven or having an exalted role there. As the earthly mother of Jesus, Mary should be respected, but she is not worthy of our worship or adoration.

The Bible nowhere indicates that Mary can hear our prayers or that she can mediate for us with God. Jesus is our only advocate and mediator in heaven (1 Timothy 2:5). If offered worship, adoration, or prayers, Mary would say the same as the angels: “Worship God!” (see Revelation 19:10; 22:9.) Mary herself sets the example for us, directing her worship, adoration, and praise to God alone: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for He has been mindful of the humble state of His servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me — holy is His name” (Luke 1:46-49).

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>>127326170
>catholics actually try to use verses of the bible to insult you.

17And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18they will pick up snakes with their hands, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will be made well.”

you know what, maybe I will.

>>127314013
john paul the second worked tirelessly with reagan to end communism

Please. Catholics RUINED local democracy. They turned 100s of years of protestant effort in virtuous self-rule into potato gibs. Machine politics is a Catholic abomination that ruined the US.

>>127313802
Going to completely BTFO of OP with just one quick point -

If Martin Luther was in the wrong why was the Catholic Church making up and practicing doctrine that is NOT in the bible?

"Priests" being celebate is NOT in the bible.
All church doctrine organized through ONE SINGULAR ORGANIZATION is NOT in the bible.
Beating yourself with a whip/flail is NOT in the bible.
Asking for money from a widow to get her dead husband's soul out of purgatory is NOT in the bible.

>"B...but Burger-Anon Peter being "the rock" of the church is in the bible I read it myself! Jesus says to Peter he shall be the rock!"

You are basing an entire divine earthly hierarchy on ONE SMALL STATEMENT. Do you think maybe the position of pope should've found some more solid verse to stand on? Peter being the rock is extremely vague and open to interpretation. Do you think Jesus was being literal there? You don't think Jesus sometimes speaks in allegory?

>>127325468
>>127325677
>>127313802
>>127327221

http://shoebat.com/2017/05/20/massive-apostasy-under-way-in-uk-as-26-people-abandon-christ-for-every-one-convert/

this should shut up you pack of fanatics

>>127313802
>protestants divided the church!
>proceeds to sack constantinople

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>>127326804
Another day another schism in protestantism

>>127313802
If anything, we need a DoomPaul type Luther meme because we should/could have listened.

>>127327292
Open heart surgery isn't in the bible either. It means nothing to say such things. Learn is-ought distinction and come back with an argument.

Calvinism is based. catholicism is anti-Christ pedophiles and homosexuals.

>>127327221
Funny.....
2. Luther and Lutherans on Zwingli and His Followers

"I will not read the works of these people, because they are out of the Church, and are not only damned themselves, but draw many miserable creatures after them." (113;v.1:466)

"Zwingli was an offspring of hell, an associate of Arius (13), a man who did not deserve to be prayed for . . ." (113;v.1:466)

"Zwingli was greedy of honour . . . he had learnt nothing from me . . . Oecolampadius thought himself too learned to listen to me or to learn from me." (51;v.4:309/14)

"Zwinglians . . . are fighting against God and the sacraments as the most inveterate enemies of the Divine Word." (111;v.5:220-21/15)

"Heretics who had broken away . . . ministers of Satan, against whom no exercise of severity, however great, would be excessive." (50:286)

"It would be better to announce eternal damnation than salvation after the style of Zwingli or Oecolampadius." (46:85)

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>>127313802
suck a dick, you fucking nigger. your pope certainly does.

>>127327699
Calvinism is stupid

None of the early church fathers taught it

>>127313802
This looks like my neighbor. I knew he was an asshole

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>>127326305

What did jesus mean by this ?

2I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:


>which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

jesus literally saying dont trust the false apostles

andrew biezad shoebat.com
-King Henry VIII of England. He cared not at all about his people, but about his power and attempted to use the Church to make personal gain at the loss of his own people

The rejection and persecution of the Catholic Faith in England began as a political move, but owing to the particularly vicious English propaganda against the Church the English people took it personally onto themselves and eventually embedded the anti-Catholicism of Henry VIII and his advisors into their culture. Many of the “English Catholics” of later centuries were immigrants from Ireland or other countries with select groups of converts, as the general majority were wiped out Muslim style except it was become a Protestant, become a slave, flee or die. If this sounds like something that Muslims would do, the answer is correct, for as we have documented here following in the words of great saints such as St. John of Damascus and Bl. Peter the Venerable of Montbossier, both who lived centuries before the Protestant Revolution, Islam is merely the final culmination of all Christian heresy if left unchecked.

>>127326829
>1 Timothy 2:5
> Mary recognized that she needed the Savior.
Vague.

>Nowhere in Scripture does Jesus, or anyone else, direct any praise, glory, or adoration towards Mary.

God is quite clear throughout scripture that he can not dwell in that which is imperfect. This is why not even Moses could see his face. The high priest had to live a life of perfect purity just to enter the Holy of Holy's, and even then he could not touch or receive God's essence directly.

How then can you believe that God Almighty could dwell within the womb of, and be formed by the flesh of a sinner?

see

>Elizabeth, Mary’s relative, praised Mary

Also see below.

>The Bible nowhere indicates that Mary can hear our prayers or that she can mediate for us with God.

Intercession of the saints is a doctrine held by the Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches.

All of the early Christians believed in the intercession of saints. The Old Testament makes quite clear that the priesthood and spoken tradition is necessary to understand the scripture.

What then makes you think a man living in the 16th century would understand the Christian faith better than Christians living in the first century?

>>127327744


2. Luther and Lutherans on Zwingli and His Followers

"I will not read the works of these people, because they are out of the Church, and are not only damned themselves, but draw many miserable creatures after them." (113;v.1:466)

"Zwingli was an offspring of hell, an associate of Arius (13), a man who did not deserve to be prayed for . . ." (113;v.1:466)

"Zwingli was greedy of honour . . . he had learnt nothing from me . . . Oecolampadius thought himself too learned to listen to me or to learn from me." (51;v.4:309/14)

"Zwinglians . . . are fighting against God and the sacraments as the most inveterate enemies of the Divine Word." (111;v.5:220-21/15)

"Heretics who had broken away . . . ministers of Satan, against whom no exercise of severity, however great, would be excessive." (50:286)

"It would be better to announce eternal damnation than salvation after the style of Zwingli or Oecolampadius." (46:85)

EXPLAIN

>>127320311
>mfw, even when speaking about religion, African developments stops about 4k years ago

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I am an agnostic myself but OP can go fuck himself.

Every christian denomination is good for specific region. Eastern orthodox suits russians and other eastern slavs because it has a mystic flavour to it. Catholicism suits southern europeans because it's grandiose and this "I sin today, regret tomorrow, sin again next week, ask forgivness again" attitude suits with their hot temperament. Protestantism suits us northern europeans because with its wooden churches and all, it's humble, laid back, supports protestant work ethics and encourages each person to be moral themselves instead of trusting a higher authority to watch for their soul.

I definitely find Martin Luther as a good man, and protestantism is what I would align with, but I wouldn't force protestantism on southern europeans and eastern slavs.

Also, fuck paganism, Varg meme needs to die. Christianity is a white man's religion and intervened with many local pagan traditions such as yule and halloween, even as much as allowing the celebration of midsummer's eve.

>>127327830
Protestants are the liars
2. Luther and Lutherans on Zwingli and His Followers

"I will not read the works of these people, because they are out of the Church, and are not only damned themselves, but draw many miserable creatures after them." (113;v.1:466)

"Zwingli was an offspring of hell, an associate of Arius (13), a man who did not deserve to be prayed for . . ." (113;v.1:466)

"Zwingli was greedy of honour . . . he had learnt nothing from me . . . Oecolampadius thought himself too learned to listen to me or to learn from me." (51;v.4:309/14)

"Zwinglians . . . are fighting against God and the sacraments as the most inveterate enemies of the Divine Word." (111;v.5:220-21/15)

"Heretics who had broken away . . . ministers of Satan, against whom no exercise of severity, however great, would be excessive." (50:286)

"It would be better to announce eternal damnation than salvation after the style of Zwingli or Oecolampadius." (46:85)

Who was right?

>>127327292
Because the Catholic Church, like the Ancient Israelites in the Bible, are the inheritors of a living tradition.

Also, Jesus did teach that celibacy was a method for achieving purity and piety in the gospel.

>>127313802

Catholics are lazy shits. That's why countries like Spain, Italy, Romania and France are shit compared to UK, Germany and Scandinavia. No working ethics, just siesta all day long sleeping in the sun.

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>>127327744
this pope is a honest to goodness false prophet and anti-Christ. FUCK THIS NIGGER HE NEEDS TO GET SHOT!

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popery isn't biblical at all. It's made up crap.

>>127328073
Meanwhile protestant countries are atheist

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>>127327744
>>127327744

Holy shit does the pope have a muzzy foot fetish? No wonder Europe is fucked. The church has turned its back onto strong faith and is now openly pushing the Sharia fighting age male trojan horse into the courtyard.

What a fucking pile of shit the pope is. The catholic church is now dead to me.

Is this shit real? This cannot possibly be real. The fucking pope, the symbol of catholocism and christianity in the wets, is licking a muzzies feet because he is a degenerate cuck with a foot fetish?
Fuck this shit. I am done with Christianity.
I am taking the Thor pill.

>>127327699
calvinism is where you help ottoman empire pedophiles and have retarded law like baning music and dancing and other things

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>>127328178
Same with this guy

>>127313802
Regardless of how "necessary" the reformation was and how "corrupt" the Church was
The thirty years war and everything around it invalidates the good points of it
The catholic church ended up reforming itself anyway, why bother splitting from it

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>>127328256
Calvinism is where you say God made you sin

Protestantism, no matter how one tried to explain it, is simply a collection of various heresies whose sole unifying point is the rejection of the Catholic Faith. As Protestantism leads to Islamization because the latter is simply the advanced stage of the former, then the fact that England has a large Muslim population today is not a surprise - shoebat.com

>>127328191
this. He proclaims the superiority of Protestantism, and points to worldly pursuits for his proof.

The pre-Christian Roman empire was pretty darn successful and productive. Does that make them good Christians?

The greatness of America came from the Protestant tradition.

Catholicism is un-American.

Consider:

91 of 112 Supreme Court Justices in American history have been Protestant. Never more than 1 RC on the court.

Since 2005 the court has been full RC and Jewish. Gorsuch now attends an Episcopal church, but he was raised RC.

>>127319140
This whole analogy is retarded. Protestantism is binary, you've either accepted Christ or you haven't.

>>127326706
hello JIDF. fuck off jew.

>>127328457
No. It came from secularism

Learn the difference

>>127328073
Lazy? Ok agree.

But in the other hand protestant countries became or full atheist or full cucked like Sweden, Germany and others.


Better lazy than have Muhammad at my fucking door.

>>127328476
Is that why this happen

3. Zwingli and His Cohorts on Luther

Zwingli, not to be outdone, returned the compliment:

"The devil has made himself master of Luther, to such a degree, as to make one believe he wishes to gain entire possession of him." (113;v.1:463)

"To see him in the midst of his followers, you would believe him to be possessed by a phalanx of devils." (113;v.1:464)

"We do you no injustice when we reproach and condemn you as a worse betrayer and denier of Christ than the ancient heretic Marcion (16)." (50:288)

Oecolampadius was also not without a retort:

"He is puffed up with pride and arrogance, and seduced by Satan." (113;v.1:463)

Zwingli's Church of Zurich wrote of Luther:

"He will not and can not associate himself with those who confess Christ . . . He wrote all his works by the impulse and the dictation of the devil." (113;v.1:464)

At least the insults exhibit some vehemence, perhaps revealing the felt importance of their object. Today, on the other hand, many Protestants are utterly indifferent towards Luther, as if their faith was a product solely of their own invention and ingenuity; oftentimes, such self-professed generic "Christians" eschew even the title of "Protestant."

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>>127328484
>>127328517
Literally Catholic Internet Defense League.

>>127327857

What does luther have to do with anything ? He brought the bible to the people that was his one job

protestants hate this

"Consider how contrary to the mind of God are the heterodox in regard to the grace of God which has come to us. They have no regard for charity, none for the widow, the orphan, the oppressed, none for the man in prison, the hungry or the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, the flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead."

"Letter to the Smyrnaeans", paragraph 6. circa 80-110 A.D.

"Come together in common, one and all without exception in charity, in one faith and in one Jesus Christ, who is of the race of David according to the flesh, the son of man, and the Son of God, so that with undivided mind you may obey the bishop and the priests, and break one Bread which is the medicine of immortality and the antidote against death, enabling us to live forever in Jesus Christ."

-"Letter to the Ephesians", paragraph 20, c. 80-110 A.D.

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>>127327487
>this one news article out to really make the inquisition fake
>1 pope killed more christians than every other roman emperor put together

>>127328657
>I hate history

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>>127328256

t. a catholic shithole

>>127328368
Calvinism is basically the church trying to eliminate the fear of hell and the belief in reward for living righteously. It's really the only way to ensure the institution of the church is relevant in the issue of the afterlife without saying that it depends upon the individual themselves which is protestantism.

>>127328457
lol the "greatness" actually came from Jewry because the Jews knew how gullible burgers were. The Rothschilds and Rockefellers gained control as soon as the Fed was inacted and then it was just a matter of pitting goy against goy. Before Jewry took hold your country was an impoverished shithole compared to anywhere in Europe.

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lol. Catholics think we give a shit about the Early Church Jew Fathers who subverted and commandeered Christianity to create Catholicism.

Catholicism is not Christian. Catholicism is un-American. Honestly, Catholics should just kill themselves.

>>127326851
that is a metaphor. do southerners know what a metaphor is? or did you interpret that quite literally? holy shit lmao.

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>>127328850
>America was an impoverished shithole before the Fed
Oh, hey Jew. I'll deal with you, later. Right now we're BTFO Catholics.

>>127328531

Italy and France are just as cucked by muslims as Germany and the UK are, if not more.

France is a traditionally Catholic nation, but was one of the first secular nations in the world. Meanwhile the UK and most of Scandinavia have state-sponsored anglican/protestant churches.
Also lol if you think Northern Europeans are anywhere near as hedonistic as Southern Europeans.

Pound-by-pound the white Protestant European is of FAR better quality than the Southern Catholic.

>>127328733

Not from the bible .... Who cares about it

>>127328903
> Rejects Early Church Fathers
> Thinks he's an authority on what's "Christian"

Hilarious if it wasn't damnable.

funny american goverment helped freemason jews actual jews take over mexico and kill catholics of course these jews where satanic and the same gang run the drug cartels

Martin Luther was the Alex Jones of the 1500's. He spoke the truth about the Catholic Church and you faggots arrested him and wanted to have him killed for it.

>>127327292
peter denied Christ once too. it's ok, there is hope for you too.

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>>127328984
ok, what is it a metaphor for? a direct commandment?

>>127327292
>You don't think Jesus sometimes speaks in allegory

lmao tell that to your snake tongue praying heathens in the woods up thread and down south, prod. you are all a bunch of wishy washy nothing. that's the point.

>>127324475
>muh book about joos lel based

a lot of talk and no action
meanwhile catholic mobs and the catholic inquisition was doing what Luther preached

Luther was just a fat nerd with anger issues, who was bullied by some jew and was too much of a beta to do anything about it.

CRUCIFY THE ATHEISTS

ECUMENISM NOW

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>>127313802
>It's another asshurt Catholic apologist episode

DAILY REMINDER THAT IF YOU'RE NOT PROTESTANT, YOU'RE NOW WHITE

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Every founding father was raised Protestant or in the Protestant tradition.

>inb4 deists.

They were raised in Protestant communities and educational institutions.

This country was fine until the Irish Catholic hordes came and started taking their democratic liberal communism into politics. Followed by the Italians and the Polish. Now the mexicans.

GTFO

>>127329213
>just believes everything he's told
>can't think for himself
>can't clearly see people trying to infiltrate "muh church"
>Christ even warned this would happen
>nope! not my catholic church

Yep, he's a catholic all right.

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>>127328457
Exactly. Can anyone imagine a fucking catholic Madison, Washington, Jefferson, or Paine. LOL fucking Sam Adams would've paid the tea tax and gave extra and said thank you crown can I have another.

>>127329150
>Not from the bible .... Who cares about it

>muh sola scriptura
>what? what do you mean ss isn't in the bible?

Also, just in general another is-ought mix up to form a non argument.

am out of here lots of fake news

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Post protestant memes

>>127329408
the sun is indeed not the center of the universe
catholic church doing its job and keeping the conspiracy theorists away

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>>127328903
>Catholicism isn't American
>Not being American makes it false

American "education"

ALL of the American Ivy League schools, literally ALL of them, were founded with a Protestant charter. It was not until they dropped the Protestant charter that they became infiltrated with degeneracy and postmodernism and commies.

This was enable by Catholics.

>>127329150
>I hate the early christians

>>127329262
Funny....

"Consider how contrary to the mind of God are the heterodox in regard to the grace of God which has come to us. They have no regard for charity, none for the widow, the orphan, the oppressed, none for the man in prison, the hungry or the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, the flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead."

"Letter to the Smyrnaeans", paragraph 6. circa 80-110 A.D.

"Come together in common, one and all without exception in charity, in one faith and in one Jesus Christ, who is of the race of David according to the flesh, the son of man, and the Son of God, so that with undivided mind you may obey the bishop and the priests, and break one Bread which is the medicine of immortality and the antidote against death, enabling us to live forever in Jesus Christ."

-"Letter to the Ephesians", paragraph 20, c. 80-110 A.D.

Whoops luther BTFO

>>127328457
America was an irrelevant country until catholic immigrants swarmed in like the Irish, Mexicans, Italians and in its early years it relied totally on the catholic country of France. Ultimately the US owes everything to the jews though

>>127329649
>Every founding father was raised Protestant

Yes, and every founding father was a Freemason Jewish puppet. What's your point? America was founded by literal Satanists.

>>127329638
>Germany
>Austria
>not Catholics

>>127329649
They were Deists by and large

Deal with it

Their principles came from what they saw in the Enlightenment, not Protestantism

Deal with it

>>127327910
>Martin Luther as a good man, and protestantism is what I would align with

cool. keep propping up your prod saint while Catholics look down on you intellectually. suit yourself, obviously. prods want to have their cake but eat it too...nobody is saying martan is evil, we simply look down on you all, and martan, intellectually. if you were honest and smart and thinking from the point of origin, you would understand. I mean that lovingly. we really do look down on prods intellectually, for entirely valid reasons.

>>127330109
Do your own research you dumb fucking Mexican Intellectual. Catholicism is inherently un-American. It is inherently monarchical. The Pope is a monarch. Why do you think Europe was ruled by monarchy for thousands of years? Catholics can not think for themselves. Their brain does not work unless they're led by some reigning authority. This is fundamentally un-American.

Fuck you, Catholic. Dumb retard. Stay where you are.

>>127328073
t. allah akbar jew

>>127330153
Protestantism enabled the dengeneracy, by destroying christianity

>>127330378
Well, to be fair, Enlightenment was an extension of the Protestant Reformation.

>>127330409
Protestantism goes against the constitution

>>127328178
who the fuck is that sperg on? fucking lel.

>>127330191

> I love and belief everything satan throws at me

>>127330409
>what are medieval Italian republics

>>127330409
What's your fucking point? The true religion needs to be American and pro Republic? Christ is King. You're fucking retarded. I bet you believe in the gospel prosperity and think Donald Trump is a god.

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>>127330559
oh my god my sides.

>>127330505
It contradicts it and is based on secularism

>>127330379
What is it with burgers being so into catholicism? Is it because of all these italian-americans? I remember when I read the stats, 2/3 of americans were protestant, yet on /pol/ it seems like all the fucking burger flags keep protecting catholicism to no end.

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Catholicism is a completely separate religion from Christianity. It is not Christianity. It is Catholicism.

If you profess Catholicism, you are being deceived by Jews and demons. If you are Catholic, you are against everything America was founded upon.

Fuck you and leave the country. Go back to Europe where you belong.

>it's another papist idolater cult thread

>someone else understands the connection between Luther, the death of Christianity, and all the shit we're going through
Fucking finally, I was starting to think I was the only one. Keep on keeping on, OP.

>>127330910
The Catholics use this place to recruit lost souls for the devil. Young men confused and looking for guidance. It's their MO. They've been doing it for thousands of years. Intentionally using Christ to deceive. They are literally the lowest of the low.

>>127330999
Meanwhile in early christianity

"Consider how contrary to the mind of God are the heterodox in regard to the grace of God which has come to us. They have no regard for charity, none for the widow, the orphan, the oppressed, none for the man in prison, the hungry or the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, the flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead."

"Letter to the Smyrnaeans", paragraph 6. circa 80-110 A.D.

"Come together in common, one and all without exception in charity, in one faith and in one Jesus Christ, who is of the race of David according to the flesh, the son of man, and the Son of God, so that with undivided mind you may obey the bishop and the priests, and break one Bread which is the medicine of immortality and the antidote against death, enabling us to live forever in Jesus Christ."

-"Letter to the Ephesians", paragraph 20, c. 80-110 A.D.

>>127330910
because protestants die out and give in to atheism

most fedoras as from ""protestant"" countries

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>>127328657
literally not. we have too much life and class to actually shill here like jews. don't project, jew.

>>127331010
All the early christians contradict protestantism

>>127313802
>(if you think about if it racism wasnt a think until the start around in the 16th century after the protestant reformation)
HA
AHAHAHAHAHA

>>127330999
America was founded and is ruled by Jews. America is a Jewish invention and destroyed all Hispanic Catholic Monarchies in Latin America commanded by their Jewish Masters.

>>127331183
Protestantism is satan

Divide christianity and make it so stupid

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>>127331196

mean while in the bible

>>127315640
Well Hus was luthers precursor but he failed in reforming the church and was burnt at the stake spanish inquisition style (he didnt expect it).
Then a bunch of commies started the hussite wars in eastern europe

>>127330409
You literally couldn't be more fucking wrong. You do realise your 'declaration of independence' was written by a catholic and that unlike any other protestant country you swear allegiance to God and accept God is above the constitution?

Britain, a protestant country that shattered the power of the catholic church and bled for it, acknowledges the monarch as the only power above the constitution. Protestant countries are primarily monarchies and the monarch is more important in them.

>>127331291
Racism not as saying "lol fucking nigger", but as racial theories is a Protestant invention. Catholics fighted Jews for religious matters, but they didn't give a fuck about race.

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>>127331377
Meanwhile in the bible for real

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>>127313802
My inner protestant violently denies this

But my mind tells me it's true. Luther started the snowball.

OTOH, the Roman Catholic church was pretty corrupt, so I can't really blame the guy.

>>127331471
Hus DIDNT believe in any of Luther's shit

>>127313802
>racism (if you think about if it racism wasnt a think until the start around in the 16th century
The idea was there, the label didn't exist; it was just the natural order of things

>>127331684
2. Zwingli

Zwingli, too, had marked militaristic tendencies:

"Zwingli had gone the length of declaring that the massacre of the bishops was necessary for the establishment of the pure Gospel . . . He wrote on May 4, 1528,

"'The bishops will not desist from their fraud . . . until a second Elijah appears to rain swords upon them . . . It is wiser to pluck out a blind eye than to let the whole body suffer corruption.'" (111;v.5:180/45)

Zwingli, the inveterate adulterer (who is he to talk about "corruption"?), was killed, along with 24 Zwinglian preachers, at the battle of Kappel, a few miles south of Zurich, on October 11, 1531, at which news Luther reacted with glee. This event, no doubt, helped to make Zwingli's successor, Bullinger, the most mild and moderate of all the founders of Protestantism.

Protestantism in its true form

>>127331768
Protestantism in its true form

3. Luther and Melanchthon Condone Slavery

Luther, hardened by the bitter pill of the Peasants' Revolt and his hand in it, sanctioned slavery, quoting the Old Testament:

"Sheep, cattle, men-servants were all possessions to be sold as it pleased their masters. It were a good thing were it still so. For else no man may compel nor tame the servile folk." (122:449/46)

Luther's sidekick Melanchthon followed him in upholding serfdom (122:457/47). Having seen the dreadful and tragic results of their own anarchical teachings, they became much more ruthless than that which they claimed to be "reforming." How strange and curious is religious corruption!

>>127313802
>promotion of nazism

what?

>>127331196
>because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, the flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead

what did jesus mean by this?

John 6
>63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

>>127331841
Sounds like isis

1. Luther

"There are others who teach in opposition to some recognised article of faith which is manifestly grounded on Scripture and is believed by good Christians all over the world, such as are taught to children in the Creed . . . Heretics of this sort must not be tolerated, but punished as open blasphemers . . . If anyone wishes to preach or to teach, let him make known the call or the command which impels him to do so, or else let him keep silence. If he will not keep quiet, then let the civil authorities command the scoundrel to his rightful master - namely, Master Hans [i.e., the hangman]." (111;v.10:222/48)

"That seditious articles of doctrine should be punished by the sword needed no further proof. For the rest, the Anabaptists hold tenets relating to infant baptism, original sin, and inspiration, which have no connection with the Word of God, and are indeed opposed to it . . . Secular authorities are also bound to restrain and punish avowedly false doctrine . . . For think what disaster would ensue if children were not baptized? . . . Besides this the Anabaptists separate themselves from the churches . . . and they set up a ministry and congregation of their own, which is also contrary to the command of God. From all this it becomes clear that the secular authorities are bound . . . to inflict corporal punishment on the offenders . . . Also when it is a case of only upholding some spiritual tenet, such as infant baptism, original sin, and unnecessary separation, then . . . we conclude that . . . the stubborn sectaries must be put to death." (111;v.10:222-3/49)

>>127330999
>catholics
>high energy
>crosses the ocean on a dingy
>has a sword
>holds the keys to heaven, descendants of the apostle Peter himself
>crosses everywhere

>protestant americans
>out in the wilds with young boys
>wearing high heels (homossexual)
>leaning, low energy
>descendants of Luther (fat)

>>127331872
>also in the same chapter
>eat my flesh and drink my blood for eternal life

>>127328776
if that's neil armstrong, then you know he's of irish and scottish lineage. you know, first man on moon. the reason England is a shithole is because they pushes all the irish to america, and now have to use Muhammad for slave labor instead of Patrick. seems to be working out well for all parties!

>>127331920
Bullinger saw the contradiction in Luther's appeal to tradition for punishment of heretics, and thought it was "truly laughable" that he should suddenly appeal to the fact,

"of the Church having so long held this . . . If Luther's argument, based on longstanding usage, be admitted . . . then the whole of Luther's own doctrine tumbles over, for his teaching is not that which the Roman Church has held for so long." (51;v.6:259/50)

Logical consistency was never one of Luther's strong points.

Grisar states:

"That . . . every follower of his Evangel, were bound to regard all opinions which diverged from his own as godless heresies . . . he had never doubted from the moment he had discovered his new Evangel." (51;v.6:238)

Protestanrism in practice

>>127332035
2. Melanchthon

"Melanchthon accepted the chairmanship of the secular inquisition that suppressed the Anabaptists in Germany with imprisonment or death. 'Why should we pity such men more than God does?' he asked, for he was convinced that God had destined all Anabaptists to hell." (122:423)

"A regular inquisition was set up in Saxony, with Melanchthon on the bench, and under it many persons were punished, some with death, some with life imprisonment, and some with exile." (115:177)

"Even though the Anabaptists do not advocate anything seditious or openly blasphemous" it was, in his opinion, "the duty of the authorities to put them to death." (51;v.6:250/51)

At the end of 1530, Melanchthon drafted a memorandum in which he defended a regular system of coercion by the sword (i.e., death for Anabaptists). Luther signed it with the words, "It pleases me," and added:

>>127314013
Add Colbert to that, he's a devout Catholic

>>127332091
"Though it may appear cruel to punish them by the sword, yet it is even more cruel of them . . . not to teach any certain doctrine - to persecute the true doctrine . . ." (51;v.6:251)

Protestant theologian Hunzinger concludes that:

"Melanchthon was wont to lose no time in having recourse to fire and sword. This forms a dark blot on his life. Many a man fell victim to his memorandum." (51;v.6:270/52)

In 1530 Melanchthon recommended death for rejection of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, but changed his mind on this very doctrine later in his life! (122:424)

>>127332134
This is protestantism

"Though it may appear cruel to punish them by the sword, yet it is even more cruel of them . . . not to teach any certain doctrine - to persecute the true doctrine . . ." (51;v.6:251)

Protestant theologian Hunzinger concludes that:

"Melanchthon was wont to lose no time in having recourse to fire and sword. This forms a dark blot on his life. Many a man fell victim to his memorandum." (51;v.6:270/52)

In 1530 Melanchthon recommended death for rejection of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, but changed his mind on this very doctrine later in his life! (122:424)

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>>127331660
Stop worshiping foreign gods

>>127332186
3. Zwingli

"Young Bible students he once mentored were now advocating more radical reform . . . refusing to have their babies baptized, citing his own earlier ideas . . . In January, 1525, Zwingli agreed that they deserved capital punishment . . . for tearing the fabric of a seamless Christian society." (53)

Zwingli's Zurich mercilessly persecuted the Anabaptists:

"The persecution of the Anabaptists began in Zurich . . . The penalties enjoined by the Town Council of Zurich were 'drowning, burning, or beheading,' according as it seemed advisable . . . 'It is our will,' the Council proclaimed, 'that wherever they be found, whether singly or in companies, they shall be drowned to death, and that none of them shall be spared.'" (111;v.5:l53-7)

>>127331377
The Pope doesn't assume the position of Peter. He simply holds the keys and acts as a spiritual advisor.

>>127331957
context papist dog after riling up the jews he explains at his disciples exacly what it means

> 54Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. 55For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. 57As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. 58This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

59These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

Many Disciples Turn Away

(Matthew 8:18-22; Luke 9:57-62; Luke 14:25-33)

60Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? 61When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? 62What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? 63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. 64But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. 65And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

>>127332239
Now let see if this is in the constitution

3. Zwingli

"Young Bible students he once mentored were now advocating more radical reform . . . refusing to have their babies baptized, citing his own earlier ideas . . . In January, 1525, Zwingli agreed that they deserved capital punishment . . . for tearing the fabric of a seamless Christian society." (53)

Zwingli's Zurich mercilessly persecuted the Anabaptists:

"The persecution of the Anabaptists began in Zurich . . . The penalties enjoined by the Town Council of Zurich were 'drowning, burning, or beheading,' according as it seemed advisable . . . 'It is our will,' the Council proclaimed, 'that wherever they be found, whether singly or in companies, they shall be drowned to death, and that none of them shall be spared.'" (111;v.5:l53-7)

>sola scriptura
>bad
Get out

>sola fida
Holy shit, pants on head retarded. Didn't read Bible/10

>>127329046
>thinks he knows about jews
>posts jew comics from jew papers written by jew led (((brit prods))) in the usa against irish and Catholics
you are so dumb. here, have a gold star.

>>127332286
>no explanation

>>127332465
Sola Scriptura contradicts all the early christians

>>127319140

is this picture supposed to mock protestantism , seems more logical to read the book and figure it out yourself , then some cuck who proclaims himself to be the word of god aka pope to tell you what to do

>>127331666
He had the same idea as luther but earlier
>Jan Hus(/hʊs/;[1]Czech:[ˈjan ˈɦus];c.1369– 6 July 1415[2]), often referred to in English asJohn HusorJohn Huss, was aCzechpriest, philosopher, Master, dean and rector[3]atCharles UniversityinPrague, church reformer, founder ofHussitism, a seminal figure in theBohemian Reformationand a key predecessor toProtestantism.

>>127332600
5. Knox

"His conviction . . . harked back to the darkest practices of the Inquisition . . . Every heretic was to be put to death, and cities predominantly heretical were to be smitten with the sword and utterly destroyed:

"'To the carnal man this may appear a . . . severe judgment . . . Yet we find no exception, but all are appointed to the cruel death. But in such cases God wills that all . . . desist from reasoning when commandment is given to execute his judgments.'" (122:614/54)

This is true protestantism

>>127329090
you are a snow gook that can't open his eyes. you can't see shit and don't know shit ya commiegook. you must be 12.

>>127332632
He didn't

His reformation is completely different from luther's

It is only his later followers that go to the solaes

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>>127313802
>racism wasn't a thing before 1600

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>>127332632
Here is one example from an academic book on him which cites a work from him calling for the intercession of saints

>>127326059
what is currently happening has nothing to do with protestantism , since the majority of protestant nations are atheist nowadays , also your catholic pope kisses refugee feets and washes them , if there is anybody pushing this crap its the cathocucks and their pope

>>127332600

No it mocks cathocucks , its probably a edit it used to mock protecucks

>>127332234
Christ isn't foreign, he rules over all the world.

>>127332585
Which is still superior to "I can make up things up as we go". Catholicism don't follow Prima Scriptura, because they go directly against the scriptures.

>>127329649
then they intellectually dropped it and called themselves deists. congrats. that is how shit your kindergarten Christian style religion is.

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>>127313802
The Holy Mother is the direct representation of the feminine mind of God.

You reject God by rejecting the Mother!

The Mother is more important than Jesus because she was the womb of God


KILL ALL HERETICAL SECTS!

>>127333053
Protestantism comtradicts all the early Christians and hate them

>>127333139
Prima Scripture is NOT sola scripture

Good job /pol/, most guys here are definitely redpilled on the lunacy and abomination of roman catholicism.

Thank God for men like John Calvin and John Spurgeon.

Martin Luther dropped huge redpills on how the Catholic Church of the day were nothing but a bunch of godless pedos and jews claiming divine mandate to spiritually rule Europe even though they were just a bunch of immoral scumbags.

Then protestantism became the same shit, different flavors, as it kept splitting up into different cults since the foundation was weakened and now any shyster could claim to be speakan for JEBUS. Didn't Martin Luther tell you to IGNORE those fukken priests?

>>127314013
Dude communism is literally considered anathema by the Church, and free speech is a meme.

*Correction, Charles Spurgeon.

>>127330153
lol you ivy nerds sold out to kikes and still discriminate against Catholics. you know nothing and aren't on my ivy level. retard.

>>127333367
Calvinism is lunacy

>>127333321
Sola Scriptura >>>>>>>>>> Against Scriptura, which is the norm of Catholic church.

If Sola Scriptura is needed to keep someone from going No Scriptura at all, Sola Scriptura isn't bad. Isn't this what started the discussion?

>>127333443
Who is a loser who hates the early christians

If you honestly read these threads and still not think that the CIDF and recruiters are 100% on /pol/, you're retarded.

>>127333165
>implying a religion where I'm forced to swear loyalty and fealty to an earthly king is better
Yep, he's a Catholic

>>127333572
Sola SCRIPTURA leads to this

5. Knox

"His conviction . . . harked back to the darkest practices of the Inquisition . . . Every heretic was to be put to death, and cities predominantly heretical were to be smitten with the sword and utterly destroyed:

"'To the carnal man this may appear a . . . severe judgment . . . Yet we find no exception, but all are appointed to the cruel death. But in such cases God wills that all . . . desist from reasoning when commandment is given to execute his judgments.'" (122:614/54)

>>127333591
>I post zero historical or academic sources to back my claims

>>127333467
>LARPING on the internet.

kys

>>127313802
Maybe, he had daddy issues, should have become lawyer instead.

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Catholics suck Jew's and masonic dick.
Meanwhile Luther is FUCKING BASED.

Political correctness was an idea pushed by mao zendong i believe

Luther was helpful, but he only wanted to clean up a few things about roman catholicism.

John Calvin was the real warrior against those papist fucks and really was the main engineer of the Reformation and fighting those roman catholic mutherfuckers.

>>127333726
"Since then these things are manifest to us, and we have looked into the depths of the divine knowledge, we ought to do in order all things which the Master commanded us to perform at appointed times. He commanded us to celebrate sacrifices and services, and that it should not be thoughtlessly or disorderly, but at fixed times and hours. He has Himself fixed by His supreme will the places and persons whom He desires for these celebrations, in order that all things may be done piously according to His good pleasure, and be acceptable to His will. So then those who offer their oblations at the appointed seasons are acceptable and blessed, but they follow the laws of the Master and do not sin. For to the high priest his proper ministrations are allotted, and to the priests the proper place has been appointed, and on Levites their proper services have been imposed. The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity."

Source: St. Clement, bishop of Rome, 80 A.D., to the Corinthians

"Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices."

Source: Letter to the Corinthians, [44,4]


Luther btfo

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>>127333276
>Protestantism comtradicts all the early Christians and hate them

ALL NON-CATHOLICS ARE HERETICS AND WILL BURN IN HELL!

>>127330409
sounds like this guy sucks jerry falwells cock for a living
>fucking based prods!

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>>127333741
Yes this is based

>>127333758
YOU WILL BURN IN HELL!

>>127333758
John calvin contradict all the early Christians

"Since then these things are manifest to us, and we have looked into the depths of the divine knowledge, we ought to do in order all things which the Master commanded us to perform at appointed times. He commanded us to celebrate sacrifices and services, and that it should not be thoughtlessly or disorderly, but at fixed times and hours. He has Himself fixed by His supreme will the places and persons whom He desires for these celebrations, in order that all things may be done piously according to His good pleasure, and be acceptable to His will. So then those who offer their oblations at the appointed seasons are acceptable and blessed, but they follow the laws of the Master and do not sin. For to the high priest his proper ministrations are allotted, and to the priests the proper place has been appointed, and on Levites their proper services have been imposed. The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity."

Source: St. Clement, bishop of Rome, 80 A.D., to the Corinthians

"Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices."

Source: Letter to the Corinthians, [44,4]


Here is one example

>>127333589
only loser is you. you brit cuck papist lover.

>>127333015
>what is currently happening has nothing to do with protestantism , since the majority of protestant nations are atheist nowadays
They are atheist nowadays because they stem from protestantism. God abandons protestants, protestants become atheists because they can't have faith in God anymore.

> also your catholic pope kisses refugee feets and washes them
Jesus kisses whores' feets and washes them. Do protestants call him a beta cuck white knight?

>if there is anybody pushing this crap its the cathocucks and their pope
Catholic countries take the real refugees, those who take your average economic migrant pretending to be refugees are the protestant/atheist countries.

>>127333939
Tell me when the early church fathers believe the five SOLAES

*cricket noises*

the biggest gay nightclub is right under the vatican.

>>127330505
(((enlightenment))) is another word for jewish secularism

>>127334046
And protestants hate the early christian

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>>127333073
Stop being a globalist. Honor the gods of your ancestors.

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>>127333705
>lies
Yep, he's a Catholic.
>all he has to do is follow the priest into the little back room and take what the priest gives his mouth and regurgitate it back to others, thus continuing the devil's cycle
Yep, he's a pedo all right.
>historical evidence
Certainly, his early Fathers didn't and wouldn't lie to him. Certainly not. He's a Catholic, they wouldn't do that. Not to me.

>>127334046
"This food we call the Eucharist, of which no one is allowed to partake except one who believes that the things we teach are true, and has received the washing for forgiveness of sins and for rebirth, and who lives as Christ handed down to us. For we do not receive these things as common bread or common drink; but as Jesus Christ our Savior being incarnate by God's Word took flesh and blood for our salvation, so also we have been taught that the food consecrated by the Word of prayer which comes from him, from which our flesh and blood are nourished by transformation, is the flesh and blood of that incarnate Jesus."

"First Apology", Ch. 66, inter A.D. 148-155.

"God has therefore announced in advance that all the sacrifices offered in His name, which Jesus Christ offered, that is, in the Eucharist of the Bread and of the Chalice, which are offered by us Christians in every part of the world, are pleasing to Him."

"Dialogue with Trypho", Ch. 117, circa 130-160 A.D.

Moreover, as I said before, concerning the sacrifices which you at that time offered, God speaks through Malachias, one of the twelve, as follows: 'I have no pleasure in you, says the Lord; and I will not accept your sacrifices from your hands; for from the rising of the sun until its setting, my name has been glorified among the gentiles; and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a clean offering: for great is my name among the gentiles, says the Lord; but you profane it.' It is of the sacrifices offered to Him in every place by us, the gentiles, that is, of the Bread of the Eucharist and likewise of the cup of the Eucharist, that He speaks at that time; and He says that we glorify His name, while you profane it."

-"Dialogue with Trypho", [41: 8-10]

>>127332134
>Supports gay marriage
Wrong

>>127333656
Which is still superior in the long run to:
>your views are against to ours, so let me kill you for saying the earth spins around the Sun

The biggest crimes of the Inquisition weren't due to going against the Scripture, but going against the institution's regulations which aren't laid on the Scripture.

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>>127333778

>>127334116
Tell me when you actually post an ACADEMIX and historical source

I am waiting