capitalism hate thread, fuck pass users and hiroshimoor trying

((capitalism))

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Hi I don't have a pass but I can just post on mobile and it's letting me skip the captcha, am I not ablonymous? Pls no bully

You are a shame for my country.
KYS

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no, capitalism's about getting the customer what they want

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>>127305856
What is supply & demand?

>>127305856
The strong can take money from the weak. You may call capitalism evil but it's just natural selection. The alternative to eugenics is disgenics which is worse.

>>127306201
>>127306274
>create consumer culture
>"wow look guis supply and demand Xd#1#1!"
that people want it is the problem, because people dont know what they want, they follow.

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>>127305856
/pol/ is a right wing board.

>>127306428
And (((who))) creates consumer culture?

>>127305856
>captcha works again
say hello to slide threads

sage

>>127306456
capitalism leads to BLACKED.com and 54% white America
I hate communism with a passion but capitalism is cancer too, when there's Jews involved

>>127306428
There's nothing wrong with consumer culture, it mean you can make a business from anything, anyone who can get capital can make a business

>>127306428
If no one want's it, it'll be a lost for the producer and will stop being produced.

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>>127306498
satans chosen ones

Capitalism teaches better habits than socialism. And if you can stop the capitalists from turning into socialist parasites, everyone gets wealthy as fuck. That pretty much describes every level of the economy, now that I think about it. If you can stop people from turning into socialist parasites, everyone gets wealthy as fuck.

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>>127306558
So it's no true socialism whenever you don't like it? Grow up, get a job, maybe then you might be a little less anti-capitalist.

>>127305856
>That caption
>A thing that has literally brought joy to hundreds of millions and cost pennies
Story checks all I see is "stop liking what I don't like"

>>127306428
Then they want to follow.
On a side note, i got some fine leashes. Get some of them as long as they last.

test

>>127305856
Nick did you seriously buy a fucking 4chan pass to shit on capitalism?

>>127305856
Hahahaha
This actually a good anti capitalism meme for once

I'm not the biggest fan of capitalism desu
>Capitalism and socialism are two sides of the same Jewish coin
I'm going to start looking into Christain Distributism, should be interesting

you mean anyone can create a retarded trinket and sell it to retards and become wealthy - sounds fucking awesome. Face it fags only retarded nigger losers like socialism/communism, they aren't even smart enough to know that they (the unproductive) are the first to get culled.

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>>127306616
but people do want it, doesnt mean it offers any cultural or higher value
>>127306853
why not be lead then? Not corporate kikes but by patriots

>>127306761
It's not true socialism unless the means of production are collectively owned. This is the definition of socialism Marxists go by. To use others to attack them is a strawman.

>>127306939
Distributism is fascism without the Huge Boss uniforms.

Captcha: Cheteau trani

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Let's try something.
(((capitalism))) (((communism))) fascism.
Really makes you think.

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>>127307083
>Distributism is Facism
That's the point friendo

>>127307083
Maybe Italian fascism. It need not really involve distributions in any real respect outside of a social security net.

Distributism is a purely economic, by the way. Fascism means a lot more than that.

I've come to the conclusion that you can't back up your claim.

>>127305856

Wow, why isn't there a single POC in that picture? there is still hope

Test?

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>>127307083
fascist is corporatist/syndicalist

>>127305856
>the mobileshit in the OP image is made by jews together with some literally who developers whose names (((they))) can't disclose via some (((agreement)))

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>>127307243
>Distributism is purely economic
I mentioned earlier that I'm talking about CHRISTIAN Distributism, which heavily encourages social order and hierarchy as well as the community uplifting it's fellow members per Christian values, it's more than just economic

>>127306986
>you mean anyone can create a retarded trinket and sell it to retards and become wealthy - sounds fucking awesome.
You'd think Commie faggots who are so for the working man taking back what's his from the oppressive capitalist owners would support such a world where any retard with internet access and an idea can make more money than kings of old.

Really makes you think their actual goals tend to just be tyrannical bullshit of men who think they were molded from a finer clay than the rest of us.

>>127305856

If people actually PAY to see this, then what's the problem? People clearly would rather pay for entertainment than "respectable" social solutions.

So what does it say about humanity? Maybe we are just naturally not super concerned about everyone else. And that's fine.

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>>127305856
SCREW EM

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>>127306456
Please stop the
>Capitalism = right wing
>anything else = left wing
meme. Many of the best rightist thinkers have been anti-capitalist.

>>127307140
So... Dystrophic could beat up to half-death - a bodybuilder? (With a little help from a fat man)

How so?

>>127305856
The liberal and pseudomarxist left is the vanguard of free market capitalism, just look at the EU.
The new Right movements is actually more marxist than the post 1970 left parties EVER were. They appeal to workers because they do not promote the type of competition that the rich fucks in the market THRIVE on, the type that Drives down wages and kills of the weakest in a Social Darwinist fashion. Post 1970 left is a bourgeoisie shitfest for the rich to oppress the masses and keep the market going, more immigration equals higher competition, doesnt matter if the whole world is driven asunder as long as the supply of "right man to right work" and slave wages are purposed by the greedy globalist shitfucks in supranational political organs like the EU.

>>127307582
This 1488%
Every time lefty /pol/ comes on here they assume we're all pro capitalism

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>>127306761
Stop boomerposting

>>127306428
>T-THEY JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IS BEST, I SHALL GUIDE THEM LIKE THE SHEPARD TO THE SHEEP


This is how civilizations fall.

>>127307582
The right believe in free markets, if you don't believe in them then you are not rightwing.

>>127305856
>commies get this mad about toys
Here's a solution for you toothpaste, just don't buy it. If enough people hate fun as much as you do, the product becomes unprofitable and they have to stop making it. Was that so hard?

>>127307582
But anon, you do know redistribution of wealth is degenerate, right?

>>127306914
>implying that's him

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>>127307776
>the right believe in free markets, if you don't believe in them your not right wing
Herr Anon, ich bin NDASP

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>>127307662
>I-i hate blacks! So that means I'm right wing! NatSoc is right wing! I'm not a lefty like them!

>>127307780
>But anon, you do know redistribution of wealth is degenerate, right?
not if it's taking it from filthy rich (((cocksuckers))) and poor gibs and effectively giving it to decent middle class families and small business owners, by not taking it out of their pockets in the first place

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>MOM! Timmy made a lot of money and he's refusing to share it with me!

The thread.

>>127306558
>capitalism leads to BLACKED.com and 54% white America
No one gives a fuck about american """whites""" though. America isn't the only capitalist country.

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>>127307776
the Anglo (((right))) maybe, real right wingers believe in order, tradition and morality.

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>people willingly spend their money on stupid products like pet rocks therefore capitalism is bad

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>>127307707
not me, im dumb
>>127307776
>muh right vs left
>>127307779
>commie
amerilards are so unoriginal when somelne doesnt fit their narrative.
>lets hope my fellow countrymen will get tired of being sold chinese trash at some point in the future
pacifism is retarded

>>127307939
>Hitler
>right-wing
Sorry famalam, you've been idolising a lefty faggot

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>>127307940
A political ideology is more than economics you slack jawed mongolid

Not liking capitalism doesn't mean you're a commie for fuck's sake. What's so bad about being a communist anyway?

>>127305856
What's going on with pass users

>>127307961
>"y-youre just jelous"
YAAAAAWN, stale
>>127308017
in a very simplified way yes

>>127307776
>The right believe in free markets, if you don't believe in them then you are not rightwing.

what is freedom. Lets say you have the freedom to outsource to utilize slavery in Africa under the guise of foreign aid like companies who benefit from EU funding usually does.
At the same time they corner the market and force through legislation that peripherally has nothing to do with the market, but at the same time destroys any form of competition.
That's not really free is it, but that's freedom according to the EU and the regressive left.

>>127307402
Maybe your Christian iteration is more than just an economic principal, however that's different form saying that distributism on it's own is fascism. Indeed, fascism on it's own, based on it's etymology and it's early works, mandates very little in the way of "fair" distribution.
>>127307776
Ever heard of the third position you fucking mong?

>>127308044
I was referring to economic policy, of course when it comes social and cultural issues it becomes a lot more complex than left-right

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>>127307189
I know.

>>127307243
>Distributism is a purely economic

Economics cannot be severed from social policy; that's a false dichotomy friendo.

>Proving you've never read Chesterton.

>>127307388
>Implying Distributism isn't a form of syndicalism combined with council/neo-guildism.

>>127307491
>Maybe we are just naturally not super concerned about everyone else. And that's fine.
God knows how much blood has been spilled by men who are super concerned with others trivial pursuits and their lustful need to control them.
It's one of the most universal in all cultures of the utmost evil

>>127307941
>taking money from rich successful whites who contribute to society and giving it to lazy welfare-bums (largely non-white) isn't degenerate
The only non-degenerate way of helping whites genuinely in need is charity and mutual aid. Unfortunately, with the decay of the church and traditional family by (((people))) who want to undermine the west, this is barely possible anymore.

Capitalism is only defended by literal cuckolds who want to justify the kikery of businesses
The average person has an inclination toward degeneracy. You can't expect a system based on the whims of people to be moral.

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>>127305856
>poorfags can't a pass

>>127308075
Whilst you are right, I was under the assumption we were solely discussing economic policy

>>127307388
>fascist is corporatist/syndicalist
But so is the EU, check out the fascist manifesto, the new Right (alt-right) is actually less fascist than for example Antifa.

>>127308290
>implying it isn't socialism and redistribution of wealth that props up cuckolds who spend money on immoral vices

>>127307939
>Collectivist authoritarians
>Right wing
That's like saying Wahhabi Islamist aren'tIslamic because they hate and murder other Muslims

>>127307780
I think a lot of people are conflating serious disillusionment with our current system, both the economic and political aspects, with a disillusionment solely on capitalism.

Redistribution of wealth is already occurring, look at bank bailouts. The difference is, the wealth is being redistributed to speculators who fucked up their own wealth. An ideal system would grant income based solely on a persons economic contribution to society, and speculative investment, private banking, etc, would not be privatized at the expense of the people.

>>127305856
lmao i fate those things but capitalism is great

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>>127307780
If we still lived as hunter gatherers or in small agricultural communities that would hold true, but our situation is different now.

With the industrial revolution and the division of labour, and now automation threatening to make human labour obsolete we have to adapt.

Besides, we've always had 'wealth redistribution' - voluntarily, within families and so forth.

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>>127308189
liberalism is left wing
>>127308363
shoulve mentioned national

>>127308290
>Capitalism
Capitalism isn't that bad if conducted correctly, it depends where the establishment sentiment is. And today the global establishment sentiment is pseudo-left / regressive left.

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capitalist faggots BTFO

>>127305856
Nigger never heard of Lay's law... baka desu senpai

I hate how capitalism allows (((them))) to get absurdly rich by exploiting the base desires and stupidity of the average person

but I hate communists too

>>127308355
Whenever I'm talking about economics I look at it in a wider, Socio-political scope, I always lump it together with political ideology, I had thought you and I were talking philosophy

>>127308453
Wealth redistribution in families is non degenerate. It doesn't punish the rich on behalf of the nonwhite mass of welfare leeches.

>>127308456
>shoulve mentioned national
Yes, the only reason why we have this morbid anti nationalism (anti assembly) is because the EU wants to federalize, and national identity is seen as en obvious threat to those plans.

>>127308522
>Plato: no you don't get it aristotle, my ideal Form communism has never been tried.
>Artistotle: if you can't manifest it in the real world, what good is it?

>>127308044
>why do children like playing with toys?
>waaaa waaaaaa ;_;

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>>127308453
Pic reminds me of this
>>127308522
Hahaha, they're openly saying they can only discuss their views in an echo chamber

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Hello, comrade! We do real communism this time, right?

>>127307776
Really, anyone arguing on a left/right political paradigm are new to politics.
There is so much more depth to politics. Hence, why the political compass was designed.

>>127306428
Agreed to be honest, we should also tell people what to believe, because they really don't know what they want.

>>127308530
>but I hate communists too
That's the thing, ((((they)))) are the biggest pushers of both Communism and Capitalism.

>>127305856
I take solace in the fact that capitalists will die with their shitty Jewish economic system.

>>127305856
It's all about socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor these days.

>>127308599
it's highly degenerate
>be hardworking man who formed his fortune from nothing
>grandchild gets it, never has to work a day in his life, looks down on the poor while posting vanity shots of his eternal europe vacation on his instagram

>>127306428
You do not want this food and shelter, comrade. Trust me.

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>Mercantilism is a form of economic nationalism. Its goal is to enrich and empower the nation and state to the maximum degree, by acquiring and retaining as much economic activity as possible within the nation's borders.

>Manufacturing and industry, particularly of goods with military applications, were prioritized. Mercantilism sought to ensure the nation produced as much volume and variety of output as possible, so as to limit its dependence upon foreign suppliers and achieve autarky.

Most randfags do not understand that global capitalism is an integral part of liberal democracy and is a relativley recent development.

>>127307068

Fuck you, you don't have a clue how it looks from the other guy's POV. It's not true capitalism until the government stops creating little distortions everywhere. Those distortions resonate, weaken the whole damned system, and cause it to slump towards a "crisis" "useful" enough to "nationalize" everything. Perhaps you understand already how permitting "small" businesses weakens a planned economy? That shit cuts both ways. Permitting "small" socialisms weakens a market economy, too.

The socialisms you consider so small that they're strawmen are the legit first steps to the feudal utopia you're begging for, faggot commie bootlicker.

>>127308215
>Economics cannot be severed from social policy; that's a false dichotomy friendo.
I'm aware of that, however fascism has some explicit political implications. You're conflating relation to equality. You're the one pulling a fallacy.

>Proving you've never read Chesterton.
Does he imply that an economic ideology relating increasing the distribution of wealth is somehow the same thing as something which doesn't necessarily imply such a distribution of wealth and also advocates for centralization and the concept of a "Great man".

>>127308522
No little /pol, true communism hasn't been tried yet. Mao? Lenin? They were just setbacks so that communism could be perfected. You'll see, one day we won't have to commit genocide to get communism to work.

Is that what your image means? Because I see the communist as the little kid trying to understand why he can't have that toy because it is actually the state's.

>>127308777
>money lasts forever

>>127308912
What are you mad about you little autist? I was just explaining what socialism was, dickhead.

And "little socialism" doesn't actually fucking exist. If the means of production aren't collectivized than it's socdem bullshit.

>>127308915
>I'm aware of that, however fascism has some explicit political implications. You're conflating relation to equality. You're the one pulling a fallacy.

Fine, would saying "Distributism is merely Fascist economic policy" be accurate enough for you?

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>>127308699
who mentioned communism?
>>127308712
some perspective into their national identity and culture would be enough

>>127308934
enough money lasts long enough for that faggot grandkid to live his entire life like that.

how is it justified that he has billions of dollars while another child starts with nothing, just because the amount he has is finite rather than infinite?

it's one of the most degenerate things on this planet. the question is how it can even be addressed without being a retarded commie

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>>127308392
>An ideal system would grant income based solely on a persons economic contribution to society, and speculative investment, private banking, etc, would not be privatized at the expense of the people.
Yes anon that's exactly what capitalism is. It's nothing more than the spontaneous order that arises through free voluntary exchange and every person who's supported this idea has been saying this since at least Adam Smith.

If you scratch a marxist you'll find one of two things.
A tyrant
Or
An Austrian libertarian.
Pic related an example of the later

>>127306761
>get a job
>somehow being put into a position of submission and servility by the masters who pay you will make you pro-capitalist
Imagine having slave morality this strong

>>127308375
What about the Weimar Republic? Berlin was the sex tourist capital of Europe. Child prostitution was rampant. Was it socialism redistributing wealth to people which caused that?

>>127309133
how is it "justified" you were born in Australia while some other kid is born in Ethiopia and starves to death?

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National Socialism offers the only valid rational criticism of captalism.

Stop shilling your kike ideology lefty/pol/ shitskins. Into the oven you go along with liberals and lolbertarians

>>127307776
It has to do with social stratification, not markets you mong

>>127305856
literally r*ddit shit, I don't see what's the point in you taking shit from there just to repost it here

>>127309221
it isn't.

but at least the kid born in ethopia is surrounded by peers just as poor as him, while I live in a rich society where said grandchildren exist. relative poverty is important just as absolute poverty is because it effects social acceptability and thus happiness.

the average kid born in a farm in the middle of nowhere in the US is looked down upon by smug upper middle class city kids who study their gender degrees, but he is hundreds of times richer than some starving kid somewhere

>>127308777
>be hardworking man who formed his fortune from nothing
>forced to give the money to lazy niggers and neets rather than pass it onto his family

>>127309457
the grandchild in this analogy is just as much a lazy nigger. his life is defined by doing nothing of value, just spending what was given to him

>>127307068
>the means of production are collectively owned
in fascism and communism the means of production is controlled through the state.
In the western world there are no more means of production, because the left has allowed it to be outsourced to people in Asia and Africa whose wages are equal to those of slaves.

>>127308902
Mercantilism sabotages a nation's capitalists because it doesn't exploit the cheapest labor possible. A capitalist in the USA will make far more by using cheap chinese labor. It has nothing to do with liberal democracy whatsoever. It's just another flaw of capitalism, due to its only goal being maximum profit

>>127305856
"Don't like it? Don't buy it"

Seriously /pol/ is not that complicated.

>>127309099
>Fine, would saying "Distributism is merely Fascist economic policy" be accurate enough for you?

No because fascism doesn't necessitate distributism. Most fascist ideologies of the early 1900's are ones that I wouldn't really consider distributism. A lot of them are, like me, anti-capitalist, where as most distributists I talk to argue that redistribution of wealth also allows more individuals to have a share in the national means of production, effectively increasing the number of capitalists and increasing class mobility.

>>127305856
Eternal reminder that communists are not human

this thread is cherrypicking one product, fucking dumb niggers in this thread.

>>127309210
It was democracy.

>>127309204
>communists actually believe this
But I guess bowing to government masters is fine as long as they give you freebies? You are part of the problem.

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>>127308175
>Not clever enough to make money off of idiots
>Calls me Jealous
>Still wants my taxes to pay for his Liberal Arts degree

Get to the choppa!

>>127309133
>how can wealth distribution be a thing without using a system about wealth distribution
The cognitive dissonance is real

>>127309506
>in fascism and communism the means of production is controlled through the state.

In some forms of communism, the state own the means of production. However as Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky described it, it is a stateless society in which everyone lives in communes. COMMUNEism. I personally don't think it's real communism unless it has that as a key feature. I recommend reading some communist literature.

> In the western world there are no more means of production
Production is anything that creates wealth. There are means of production in service economies, however they aren't that useful in a communist society. We would need more factories to produce more things so that the communes can e self sufficient.

>>127309652
Democracy isn't an economic system

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>>127308453
>Besides, we've always had 'wealth redistribution' - voluntarily, within families and so forth.
Anon why does it need to be explained why one is virtuous and the other isn't?
It really is as simple as it being voluntary. You don't need to overthink past that.
Virtue and wisdom is understanding precisely why cooperation and society are virtuous but forcing it flies in the face of what a society is, peaceful cooperation of it's members.
It's why today you see our societies crumbling because they are no longer societies they are dens of plunders of all shapes and sizes and tyrants more concerned with controlling others(intentions do not matter it's the desire to forcibly control others that is the issue) then to enjoy their own live.

>>127309760
He's going to keep taxing you and you're not going to be able to stop him.

no pass and i can still post silli

>>127309774
no, this just points out a major flaw in capitalism that allows utmost degeneracy

it might be that you simply have to deal with the flaw because anything addressing the flaw would be worse. you shouldn't try to pretend wealth inheritance is good when talentless lazy faggots get it though

if I was a billionaire I wouldn't give my sons much at all desu. if they can't earn it for themselves, they clearly don't deserve it as much as me, so they should get less.

>>127309652
One of the core tenets of marxism is a stateless society, there wouldn't be any government masters. Western wageslaves are just brainwashed to think a society where they arent getting bossed around by their superiors can't exist.

>>127309221
>how is it "justified" you were born in Australia while some other kid is born in Ethiopia and starves to death?
What is the justification for trying to force people into saving the population of the whole world for only to remove social and economic mobility and then shackle them in slavery and talk about them like they were shit.
The regressive left should be the First to suffer for their arrogance and love of free market. They should be the first to pay for the plight of being self proclaimed privileged bourgeoisie regressives.

>>127307068
Keep your faggy means of production. It's the means of innovation that matter and drive the world forward. Look at Apple. "Designed in California, Made in China." Creating new things is hard work. Making something someone gave you the blueprint for is easy. That's why the chinks do it.

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capitalism and socialism are the sides of the same Jewish coin. Both are tools used to destroy white civilization

>>127309502
True, but
1. It was the grandfather's money and his choice what to do with it. If he wanted to pass it onto niggers, he could.
2. Your case is extreme, only select few assholes are like that. On the other hand, if we choose "equal" redistribution, we can be sure the money gets redistributed to the lazy and worthless part of the society.

>>127309878
Good quote. Perfectly describes capitalism corporatism and lobbying in capitalist countries.

>>127309456
>relative poverty is important just as absolute poverty is because it effects social acceptability and thus happiness.

you're not wrong but I fail to see how some faggot kid having a lot of daddy's money is somehow "unjust" to you. It's rage inducing to see these fuckheads flaunt it on instagram and pretend like they earned it themselves, but it's not like they stole it from me or something (this is what actual communists believe though)

niggers and jews are bad news
test

>>127306428
>people dont know what they want
>they follow

did you ever think many people WANT to follow?

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>>127310016
>It's the means of innovation that matter and drive the world forward.
Most communists are just interested in letting capitalism develop the means of production and then moving at a snails pace in terms of technology. They aren't concerned with advancement. The "progression of man kind" is a shitty spook".

>>127309872
Not everything is caused by economics.

>>127310003
True, but communism isn't actually possible either. Dumb leaf.

>>127309338
>National Socialism offers the only valid rational criticism of captalism
Except that even with that quote Hitler is directly contradicting himself and immediately raises the exact same questions that are why socialism is a failed idea. The reason socialism as an idea is doomed to failure and bloodshed has nothing to do with anything Hitler espouses and yet he also acts as if it's a virtue.

Bonus points if I don't have to name these concepts.
I'll give you some hints
Hayek and Mises.

>>127308175
Pet rocks are literally paying someone for a joke, social advancement. It's really not the same.

>>127310016
Are you saying Apple doesn't own its means of production in China? You're a fucking retard

FFS /Pol/! Capitalism is the reason our society is the best in the world. You see any refugees wanting to live in communist countries? You see hordes of people waiting at the borders of China or Korea? Communism is bad because they want everyone to be the same and earn the same. There is no room for the individual expression in Communism. They will take your hard earned money and give it to the slackers who don't work or produce. And that's the best case scenario. Worst case is that the state keeps it for themselves. We must unite against Communism and Socialism and wipe this curse from our lands!

>>127310003
You do not realise that some people are fine with this. Those who are not can start their own businesses. What you also do not realise is that the position of "boss" is extremely demanding. It's a stressful, tedious, innovative work and a great responsibility. Some people are fine with having a routine, they want a simple life with ensured income.

>>127310174
it's unjust because it's unfair. you're two characters in the MMO of life and both compete against each other but he got 2 million gold to start off with. not to mention with land the people who are born without it have to give large sums of money to be able to have a place to live, and will likely not be able to afford to get their own, after which they may be buying from someone who was born with it

none of it is fair. I'm not saying there's a solution, just that there is a problem

>>127310081
> If he wanted to pass it onto niggers, he could.
but he most likely won't because of instinct. even the most liberal virtue signaling rich still give their family luxury

>On the other hand, if we choose "equal" redistribution, we can be sure the money gets redistributed to the lazy and worthless part of the society.
I agree with that

>>127310475
The calculation problem only applies to a centralized, planned economy. I'm a strasserist, and the guild mange their own affairs. Therefore the calculation problem doesn't apply to my brand of national socialism.

>>127305856

Capitalism just blindly follows what consumers are willing to pay money for.

The fact that most consumers are retards has more to do with the complete lack of capitalism and customer control in the fucking schools you are forced to spend over a fucking decade in.

nu snel je polsjes doorsnijden vuile kanker communist

>>127310582
sry for my fellow burger he has a case of the tarded

>>127309862
>Production is anything that creates wealth
In other words; your system is reliant on globalization and the systematic oppression of poor in other countries as well as the denial of work in the west.

I'm not a Utopist, but I've been a Marxist for a long time, and I consider myself to be alt-right because they actually care about workers as opposed to the bourgeoisie left, however people chose to live is insignificant.
Its about limiting the power of the people who control the means of production, the economic and political establishment, which in most parts of the world is run like a syndicate. (a pseudo left wing syndicate).
Unionism & orthodox Marxism works, at least to some degree, utopian Marxism does not.

>>127309862
>I recommend reading some communist literatur
I'd recommend you not waste his time
>>127310480
> Pet rocks are literally paying someone for a joke, social advancement
It's truly wonderful isn't it?
It's called being a "patron of the arts" which we're seeing a resurgence in and it's quite wonderful hater be damned
Just look at the rise of patreon.

Capitalism is degeneracy. It concerns me to see all these faggots who think they're red pilled but are still too cucked to realize the biggest schlomo scam. Capitalism is the reason for hedonism and gluttony and the degenerate youth (((culture))) you see today. Just take a look at any trending song. It's fucking disgusting.

>>127309502
Grandchild in that comparison had a beneficial donor. It's NOT up to you whome that man's HARD WORK AND EFFORT gets given to, it's up to HIM.

The difference is when you use that money to make money off of the back of others without proper compensation, but that's all risk reward.

>>127305856
After paying all my living expenses I have plenty of money left to spend or invest.

>>127310649
>What you also do not realise is that the position of "boss" is extremely demanding. It's a stressful, tedious, innovative work and a great responsibility.
There's two things that people who have never been a real boss or have talked with a real boss don't know about being the boss.

You're there to serve everyone else and you get paid absolutely last even if it's not at all.

gas the kikes

>>127310749
yes in a truly capitalist "state" consumer culture will surely be shunned

heb je geen joodse sperma te consumeren ergens hoorndrager?

>>127310679
>I'm not saying there's a solution
I agree.

>just that there is a problem
And that's where we disagree. I don't think that's a problem. It's just a part of life. I don't care that someone I don't even know personally has inherited money and didn't give me any. I'd rather focus on myself and how to make my own money.

>>127310962
>It would be better if the kikes fully controlled all wealth
fuck off

>>127310679
I don't, the lazy and worthless don't deserve anything. If you try and enforce anything thay doesn't conform with hard work = effort you will have a system that eventually will collapse.

>>127310679
>it's unjust because it's unfair. you're two characters in the MMO of life and both compete against each other but he got 2 million gold to start off with.
Wrong dumbass. Another player, their parents, worked for it and gave him the 2million gold. You're just a buthurt loser who doesn't want to work.

>>127311168
ID: OHHH TWAT 8
Truly the best thread of my life.

>>127311168

Let's also not forget what capitalism supports. It supports the destabalization of the middle east and the importation of niggers and sand niggers alike, or perhaps I should be calling them what they really are, (((consumers))). And how the gibs you guys love so much? Take the money from the rich (who have already bought your product) and give it to the poor niggers (who don't have enough money to buy your product) so they can buy your product.

Fucking leafs man.

I'm just here to post as fast as possible

>>127311297
Taxation supports all that stuff.

>>127311329
No it literally fucking doesn't. Taxation is a tool to be used by the governing body. Every government has taxation and they all use it differently you double nigger fucking leaf.

>>127311297
You seem like a COINTELPRO kike to me

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>>127308522

>>127308636
underrated

>>127306428
>you don't WANT to own this family farm from the 1750s. you WANT to give it to Russian surfs who have never farmed before.
>what's that comrade? YouWANT to live on your family farm? Time to shoot you in a ditch
>t. Checka to my family in 1920
Seriously, commies need to get fucked

>>127311297
>Capitalism is a monolithic conspiracy
wew laddie

>>127305856
>spinners
Ok i can see the spinner
>monsters
Ok i see those 4 girls
How does this game work

>>127310687
>I'm a strasserist, and the guild mange their own affairs. Therefore the calculation problem doesn't apply to my brand of national socialism.
Except it still absolutely does anon.
It doesn't matter how you break down the planning the fact that there's planning and no price system is why the calculation problem exist not the specifics of centralized planned economies.
Re read up on it anon because you're missing the most critical point made by Mises
https://mises.org/library/end-socialism-and-calculation-debate-revisited

>>127311523
another american flag calling people commies, shits becoming lame

>>127311525
>a leaf
>a shill
who wudda thunk it. fuck off you mudslime.

>tfw to smart for captcha

Get on my level, scum.

>>127311254
>his parents got the money
>so its fair
Are you a retard? You must be if you think thats what fairness is

Non pass phone post test

>>127305856
Plus sized clothing

This shit tells you how much capitilism destroys societies. Before if you were to fat to fit into normal people's clothes you would have to buy shitty clothes or lose weight. You certainly didn't feel validated by how fat you are. Now with plus sized clothing these women feel like they are normal and not fat freaks.

Another example of how capitilisim is slowly destroying our society is how Spanish is on fucking everything. It's fucking America learn English, but no those illegal Mexican buy things so those greedy capitilist have no problem putting Spanish on everything. Now the Mexicans who come here don't even need to bother to learn English. I had some guy be mad I didn't speak English at my job the other day.

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>>127311702
Low energy faggot
No one is paying me to post on 4chin

>>127311714
preach

>>127311772
Oh I see. You just do it because you love the jews so much. How cute.

>>127311085
Well, exactly. Commies have such a childish and unrealistic idea of what it means to be a boss.
>hurr, it's an evil demon who forcefully makes you slave away to make him rich

But I guess it makes sense, they never worked anyway.

>>127305856
>If there are outliers and things I personally don't like, it means that the entire statement is false and we should use a system so bad that it doesn't have outliers that show any positive gain from it what so ever, but instead has starved millions to death for its cause

>>127311756
>t. useless poor family

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>all this kvetching and no one is proposing alternatives

>>127311756
>you shouldn't help your children succeed

LOL your parents just hated you, not everyone is like that.

>>127311768
There's going to be Allahu Akbars on everything soon. They're importing all those consumers.

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>>127311836
>He's still here
>He's still responding to A FUCKING LEAF

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>socialist uni students mad they can't afford a spinner

>>127311430
>Capitalist societies because they're so successful it gives way for more bountiful coffers for government to plunder and do the same shit government has always done wage war and try and create a peasantry.
Quite the catch 22 isn't it?>>127311768
>This shit tells you how much capitilism destroys societies
And if I told you that a combination of massive government corn and grain subsidization combined with pseudoscience of pic related is the reason? and we're already seeing a trend change backwards with a huge rise in gym culture and being more healthy in general in what just two generations?

You're looking at symptoms anon

>>127311768
Mad I didn't speak Spanish

Fraudulent slip from le 60%

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>>127307140

Your image forgot the 4th option.

>>127305856
The worship of international capitalism is cancer, yes.

It values infinite expansion and we are seeing now a direct result of what its values are, as we ourselves, along with our cultures and futures, are sacrificed on its altar of infinite expansion.

>>127311640
Good job ignoring what he said, Pinko faggot.

>>127311869
ANOTHER american flag calling everubodybthey dont agree with communists. What an absolute shithole of a country

>>127305856
No one is forced to buy a shitty app.

>>127306558
(((Capitalism))) and (((communism))), there are only two choices goyim

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>Capitalist A: "I made my fortune by marketing lingerie to elementary school children."
>Capitalist B: "Amazing. You are the epitome of success in our system and we should all look to you as a role model. Truly, you are beyond reproach."

>>127311756
>his parents motivation for work was to provide for their family
>their money gets passed onto the family because they wished it to be so

Reeee, it's not fair. I also want free money and I don't ever want to work!!

>>127312221
The only solution is distributism. Anything else is nigger tier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

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>>127312080
Forgot pic
Something so simple is responsible for such an immeasurable amount of damage to millions of lives.

>>127312276

Who's buying lingerie for elementary school kids? Why are you thinking about elementary school kids in lingerie?

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>>127305856
capitalism is cancer but dont mix it with typical tricks from shlomo

>>127305856
>getting this triggered over a mobile game

Capitalist shills will say this is fake.
"...distributists argue that socialism is the logical conclusion of capitalism as capitalism's concentrated powers eventually capture the state, resulting in a form of socialism."

spinners are a really bad example to use to hate capitalism because they actually are a positive thing. Fidgeting is proven to help retain data and memorize better. Studying while fidgeting with a spinner increases your chances of remembering the data.
Use sports or anime to show why capitalism is shit.

>>127310824
>In other words; your system is reliant on globalization and the systematic oppression of poor in other countries as well as the denial of work in the west.
No. Communism can rely on having it's own means of production. No poor country needed. If everyone works more than enough to survive and thrive can be produced.

>Unionism & orthodox Marxism works, at least to some degree, utopian Marxism does not.
Does Marxist-Leninism fall under utopian marxism?

And the bourgeoisie left have basically abandoned real theory.

I also disagree that any alt-light mong libertarian cares about workers. Maybe the 1488ers, but not the capitalist element. Workers do not benefit from capitalism in a system in which the means of production are already ripe for collectivization.
>>127310891
>I'd recommend you not waste his time
I recommend you know your enemy, retard.

>>127308453
Dollfag?????

test

>>127312863
>I recommend you know your enemy, retard
I do and you're wasting his time with the same tired shit

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>>127305856
>people enjoy playing with a toy
>business owners make more and sell them to them
>OH MY FUCKIGNG GODD WHAT THE FUCK THESE EVIL CAPITILISTS THEYRE FUCKING ROBBING THOSE PEOPLE HELP THEYRE EVIL AAAAAA

>>127312759
>new cancerous toy that kids use to distract themselves
>something you can sell and advertise
not capitalist.
>sports, the act of playing a competitive game and anime, a show people watch.
>neither of these things you can sell.
definitely capitalist.

not sure if you're retarded or a shill. it's honestly becoming harder and harder to differentiate you.

>>127307662
>Every time lefty /pol/ comes on here they assume we're all pro capitalism
Off course we aren't. I am, but a lot of people here consider themselves Nazi's. Which just happen to be a honestly fascist left wing policy. The other left wingers just call it right wing because of the fascism and nationalism thing. But it very much favors a planned economy - just like the blithering Berkeley baboons

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>>127313161
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Not on my fucking watch, why can't people just agree that people shouldn't make money off stuff I think is stupid. JUST SHARE ALL THE MONEY
REEEEEEEE

>>127311604
>It doesn't matter how you break down the planning the fact that there's planning and no price system is why the calculation problem exist not the specifics of centralized planned economies.

The economy is organic apart from the fact that it's organized. The guilds operate autonomously. The labor theory of value also isn't necessary as pricing can be done by the guilds. The state is only involved in international trade.

In case we go forward with this, I'm more of a neo strasserist. I think we need to get more automation involved and that eventually we can live in a society in which people work because they want to. Capitalists are scare of automation as a huge unemployed underclass means revolution. Socialists want work to be less necessary. Market socialism (collectivization of work places with a market economy) is also a viable alternative to capitalism. Developed communism and anarchism circumvent economic problems altogether.

>>127311912
Strasserism. Titoism. NazBol.

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>>127311912
corporatism

captcha still broken?

>>127313365
wow thanks for that pic, it literally confirms what I'm saying. capitalism is evil and embeds it's degenerate values in the nations children. literally look at the fucking spinners. being marketed to children. what for exactly? no reason at all, just another mindless toy like the silly bands and snap rulers of old. what ever happened to real toys that you could play with for hours? oh yeah, capitalism realized it's easier to just make garbage and advertise it well then to actually think of something that has value.

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>>127313254
It's easier to pump out your pre-loaded arguements if you just assume everybody holds the most straightforward opposing view.

>>127313376
>The guilds operate autonomously. The labor theory of value also isn't necessary as pricing can be done by the guilds
Anon again you aren't understanding what prices are.
They aren't something that is "set" the very fact that you're using that language is exactly why you're not even playing the right sport to hit the ball being thrown let alone at plate ready to hit it.

>>127313584
this, children needs toy's that stimulates their brains

>>127313584

The only value a product has is what consumers assign it.

>>127313584
Well if there are people who are willing to give up the economic credits that can be used for food, shelter, and all your essential living requirements on something stupid, why should some state or organization stop it?

>>127310582
>Are you saying Apple doesn't own its means of production in China?

That is exactly what I'm saying. Do you know what outsourcing is? Pulled straight from Apple's 2016 annual report:

"While some Mac computers are manufactured in the U.S. and Ireland, substantially all of the Company’s hardware products are currently manufactured by outsourcing partners that are located primarily in Asia. A significant concentration of this manufacturing is currently performed by a small number of outsourcing partners, often in single locations. Certain of these outsourcing partners are the sole-sourced suppliers of components and manufacturers for many of the Company’s products. Although the Company works closely with its outsourcing partners on manufacturing schedules, the Company’s operating results could be adversely affected if its outsourcing partners were unable to meet their production commitments. The Company’s manufacturing purchase obligations typically cover its requirements for periods up to 150 days."

It is more efficient supply a 3rd party manufacturer with your designs and buy the product from them rather than sinking capital into production facilities. Even if Apple has equity interests in some of these Asian facilities, they usually require majority local ownership.

>>127310794
Who's tarded now?

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Is it just me, or is OP bitching about something that... Kind of happened in our childhood?

Like, we're all going, "Awawawa those assholes selling shit products like a spinner" when we had Yo-Yos and light-up shoes and slime?

Are we just old?

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I suspect many people as they mature learn to spot kikey scams that embed themselves in capitalist markets.

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Dumb adults definitely don't deserve wealth

>>127313960
what the hell is that supposed to convey?

>>127308522
The point exactly. All communist can do is talk about theory, because communism never works in practice.

>>127305856

>spinners

hmmm

>>127305856
>highest quality
>most efficient
>posts a free to play app for a shitty trend
(you)

>>127313589
I wonder if that cabal he's working with is capitalist by chance?

>>127313844
What about when those people are children being brainwashed by ads and other cancerous garbage? The adults might buy it but it's the kids who are the targets.

Reminder that this thread is brought to you by fidget spinners, a dumb toy that annoys autistic people. You don't have to buy one, but you can if you want to.

>>127305856
Some of us don't want to live with our mom and don't care if some flips make a shitty game

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If you don't like the free market, you are a commie fuck pig

>>127305856
Back in my days it was beyblades. The young people these days don't even need cartoons, the shit markets itself on the social media.

test

WOW SOMETHING EXISTS THAT I DONT LIKE

BETTER CALL THE GOVERNMENT AND SACRIFICE ALL MY LIBERTIES SO THEY CAN BAN EVERYTHING I DONT LIKE

HURRR HURRR HURR SORRY MY SUB 50 IQ MAKES IT HARD TO BREATHE

>>127306624
drain the (((swamp)))

>>127314023
As someone who just went on a train ride yes and no.
Yes to the image no to you trying to push it as an anti capitalist message it really isn't.
Hence my post here
>>127309878
Classical liberalism the idea of natural law and inalienable rights and more recently the work of men like Hayek Mises and rothbard have always been the most resounding ideas.

>>127306028
(((you))) didn't even address them right

>>127314378
Merriam webster definition of capitalism:
an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

Your careless and nebulous use of the term "capitalist" is getting tiresome.

I'm on a Windows phone

I want equal computer for everybody.
Specs:
2 core 2.3 ghz
1 ram
50 gb hdd
onboard graphics

i hate evil capitalist computers. it's all waste.

>>127314725
That post's main point was to point out that kikes exist. It wasn't really pro or anti capitalism.

>>127306558
Even China is more capitalist than America, you braindead retard.

>>127314911
how?

>>127314758
Wow, are you actually this stupid. What's next, you gonna give me the definition of feminism. Things aren't defined by their labels you autist. It's the other way around.

Here's the definition of communism. How about you do some compare and contrast you fucking child.

"a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs."

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>>127306400
did you know that's a recipe for disaster?

imagine every poor atm gets robbed by those with more money

every poor atm dies

now there's a new tier of poorest people in the society

keep the pyramid going and then the bankers robs those backed by the capitalism, the investors and the owners of every industry

then bankers rob theirselves and the human race is destroyed

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I post on /pol/ mostly as a recreational activity.
I paid 20 dollars to make the experience more pleasant. However, I am glad that use of this site is free so that everybody can partake in the activity I enjoy.

>>127314864
communist meme

I mean meme because not even commies think that's a good way for society to work like, lol

>>127315016
Wow mean!
Discussion of complex concepts is easier if we can all agree on the definition of the key terms we're using.

>>127315004
aliexpress and made in china shit

here in spain you have 100 chinese shops at least in each city with "made in china" products

>>127314262
that cons/libertarians want a world where billionaires run everything, because we don't like taxes or regs, not realizing that leftist policies are exactly what give them that kind of power

>>127311920
>>127311884
And not a single argumebt was made

>>127315016
Your reliance on ad-hominem is also tiresome, I'm having trouble spotting the point of your post.

>>127315291

Capitalism is socialism disguised with a touch of the freedom delusion.

>>127315557
Define distributism

>>127315501
You didn't make an argument yourself so what would my argument be directed at? Go back to tumblr.

>>127309862
>not carefully selecting your male son that doesn't act like a fag and has some good thinking to inherit almost all your whealt.
>let him study withb you paying but throw some advice and asking him what he aims to do in life.


It's almost as you would let your offsprings squander your whealth like idiots.

>>127315674
Defining politics is literally impossible. You have a vague idea of what you want but as you no doubt know, it never works out as it is expressly laid out. See communism.

poorfags are back
time to shitpost

>>127315712
His original argument was that inheritance is absurd
XD

>>127315058
While irl, poor become richer every day thanks to capitalism.

>>127314880
>That post's main point was to point out that kikes exist
Yes I know but it is detracting from the understanding that psychedelics bring you if you embrace it. That we're ultimately individuals and it doesn't matter what our trivial pursuits are so long as we aren't forcing will onto others which always does more damage than to "just let it be". Of course you should always help your fellow man or try and convince them of their wrongdoing because that's part of what living in a society is about but when you start using violence and coercion is exactly when you're saying to hell with society I know what's best. Which has always been the deepest root precursor to many of the worst preventable atrocities in human history. Including the two world wars

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>>127305856
that right there is some shitty bait my dood.

>>127315848
>Defines capitalism in simplistic way
>Cannot define a system he advocated earlier
>Defining politics is literally impossible

Interesting

>>127315910
That's not an argument. That's a proposition. An argument is where you actually make a point for your proposition. My proposition is that his family didn't love him or they were poorfags so now he's butthurt.

>>127306201
No its not, it's about lining (((your))) pockets

>>127306558
incorrect. kikes lead to blacked.com and 54% white america

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Fuck off lolbergs and commies, this is a natsoc board

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>>127316032
This isn't a psychedelic thread they pop up on /pol/ now and again, I just like putting " images with my posts.

>>127316062
I can give the definition to anything, it doesn't make it true or accurate. SEE. FUCKING. COMMUNISM. If you're actually interested in distributism then read the wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

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>>127316007
Good goy. Too bad people are still dying of preventable diseases, real wages are stagnant, this generation is the first in history to be poorer than the last, and the environment is trashed. Also now everyone's an isolated, permastressed consumerist zombie. Keep buying more products and making your boss more money, goy.

>>127307068
>the means of production are collectively owned
That happened in literally every socialist country. The problem with you morons is that when it inevitably fails and the government steps in (which Marx advocated for numerous times to assist in the transition to socialism) you damage control and disassociate with what is an obvious and inevitable flaw in your theory.

Much like "equality" or "fairness", the idea of collective ownership itself has no real definition or standard of proof. By and large, there are vastly more people in any given area than there are productive machinery for individuals to operate. Machinery must be occupied while in use and is therefore to some degree exclusive. Socialists seem to have this deluded idea that a town with 5,000 people and 200 factory machines can be socialist in theory, meanwhile dismissing every possible organization of labor with this impractical handicap as "not real socialism."

The fact that your belief set has no null hypothesis should be a clue to you that it's complete nonsense. Socialism is the creation science of the modern world.

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>>127306558
>54% white America
If only. Most newborns are non-white.

>>127309204
The prussian educational system has the state take you away from your family, force you to spend your time with kids you don't know, teach you to reflexively obey an assigned authority figure, who tells you what to think.

>>127316566
Exactly this.

>>127316355
That doesn't change my point tho

>>127316368
I am perusing that
my memey quick definition is:
Distributism is Ancap but everybody is nice to each other and owns a small business

>>127308699
>The only alternative to unfettered capitalism is socialism
Bunch of slack jawed faggots
Take the tradition pill.

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>>127309210
>child prostitution = capitalism
There are still laws under capitalism you retard. I hate faggots who think all libertarians are AnCap.

Think of any horrible job like cleaning out cat food mulching machines or cleaning up raw sewage spills. Ask yourself who will do those jobs if not you.
A huge chunk of people who live in cities won't even do something so simple as pick trash up off the ground when they see it.

>>127316692
It was a good post, yes

>planting seeds
>growing vegetables
>going to market
>want to sell
>everything easy and chill as fuck
>suddenly communist appears
>wants me to read 300 sites of karl marx
>discusses the evil of capitalism and the glory of communism
>asking him if he wants to buy something, because i don't want to give him free food
>he gets extremely trigged

As this thread approaches it's end it is clear to me that we all agree that shitty people are shitty, poor people are poor, jews are jews and every other tautology related to capitalism true.

>>127313732
This is one of the most frustrating parts of arguing these matters. Critics of capitalism usually lack so much essential knowledge on the subtleties and ingenuities of the price system.

>>127305856
>App store is a free market
You have got to be joking. It's a walled garden, which means that, similar to lottery immigration, you get this trash mix of "acceptable" content instead of true quality.

If you want a decent comparison, the steam library might be a better choice. Shit products abound, but they never manage to get above the good stuff because steam shows what people buy and like.

>>127316566
[Citation needed]
Literally everything is the opposite of that anon
Less and less people are poor every day
Less and less are dying from once unpreventable illnesses
Real wealth in all factors has massively increased for all groups especially for the poor and middle class who in western nations are living Betterthan the richest king ever could.
Sure there's plenty of work to still be done(it was only 150 years ago only the rich could travel by horse and four today you can fly anywhere in the world poor or rich the biggest difference being where you sit in the plane) but you have to let it work through the process that has already brought so many out of poverty

Well time to get out of bed, make breakfast and enjoy this weekend, though I enjoy my job but I am glad I get to take a break on the weekend. unless there's a lot of work to do (but the overtime pay isn't bad ;) ). I will enjoy the outdoors and maybe read a book.

>>127317116
Many of them don't seem to have had a real job or responsibilities.

>Not being a strasserist
>Not creating oven-powered gulags

Communists are nothing more than bootlicking retards who happily choose globalist progress while not realizing they're giving an ample breeding ground for (((them))). Their attempts at forming 'workers states' freed from the man usually turn into degenerate drug hovels that accomplish nothing.

Capitalists are equally bootlicking retards (though not as much as communists) who have occasionally realized that separating and forming their own small, prosperous communities is better than choking on the theoretical BBC of global finance.

I don't really care if (((they))) are supporting global capitalism or communism. Whatever it is, it's poison and needs to stop.

>>127317247
Shhhh don't question his post he might call you a good goy!

>>127306558

blacked.com operates at a loss accourding to the company's tax returns

>>127316894
Thanks leaf

>>127317393
It's neat how you can peruse the financial statements of publicly traded companies.

>>127316092
No my argument is that inheritance is not fair and the poster i was replying to said it was

>>127317504
That's still not an argument. Try telling people how it's unfair.

>>127317504
He is going to insist that it wasn't an argument, then call you a mean name.

>yfw your gf gave up her flower shop because of too much regulations and taxation
>yfw she doesn't do anything with flowers anymore
>yfw ppl still believe communism/socialism brings more wealth

only dead communists are good communists. i don't feel any guilt killing robbers, thieves and tyrants.

>>127317599
>a person can receive huge sums of wealth by being born in the right family
How is it fair