What does /pol/ think about stocks? Are they /pol/ approved

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>>127033785
CVM MAH NIGGA, although they were just put on full clinical hold so IDK.

They are not degenerate, they are just misunderstood and viewed as the rich mans game. Which until you hit 25k it kind of is.

>>127033785
More on the subject:
>Independently making money is not bad
>It does add value to the economy when a stock is first issued, it is a common way to raise funds for a major project or initial capital
>If you can make more from home than you would working and free up time you have gained a very valuable resource as you can pursue your goals more effectively. You do have goals, right?
>It is possible for a decently intelligent person to gain a lot of power (money) from this system through R&D.
>You can even move onto the field of algorithmic trading if you are computer savvy.

It's fine if you want to gamble.

If you play it safe and invest in index funds you will get a return similar to the interest from a bank.

>>127033785
Buy buy buy, sell sell sell

>>127033785
>What does /pol/ think about stocks?
They're fine but most people are retarded and spend more time thinking about what to order in McDonalds than on which stocks to buy and lose all their shit.

>>127038534
>If you play it safe and invest in index funds you will get a return similar to the interest from a bank.
Fucking retard.

>>127040780
Let's hear about your awesome strategy where you have 100% RORs.

Most people who get involved with this shit are idiot day traders who read a book on technical analysis then think that they are the next Warren Buffet.

>>127041421
First you must realize why I called you a fucking retard.
Otherwise you are not worth the time and effort.

>>127041421
If you put money in banks you make a lower return than what would happen to your money based on inflation, if you invest in index funds your money will almost definitely increase in value more than inflation will lower its value.
> they allow people to profit immensely while adding nothing of value to the economy?
Somebody doesn't know how stocks or the economy work.

>>127041421
>>127041802
Shit, second response was meant for >>127033785

>>127038534
so risk your money on an index fund to get the same no risk return from the bank....hurrrdurrr.

>>127038534
oh do you have a nice .0025 percent a year ETF to tell us about?


OP, stock and market investing us fine, but not the kind if thing you can just take internet recommendations on.

Stocks are nice. But forex is the redpill. I make money in forex. Not a lot because I don't have much money. I don't know what will come of it all if fiat currencies collapse. We're in such a confusing time now that everything is uncertain.

Stocks are good if you get in early to a good company. That does add value to the economy. And it frees up your time. Nothing is more redpilled than doing this from your air conditioned house while the rest of the peasant class slaves away for wages.

>>127041651
>no argument

Got it.

>>127041802
Providing the market is doing well. Otherwise, you need to ride it out until the market rebounds and you get back to where you started.

>>127042353
I'd be more than happy to learn about some strategy or stock that I could buy that could return me 10% a year, but it doesn't exist.

There is a reason why people in the share market are happy to earn a salary and a commission on their trades gambling other people's money. It's not easy and it's very, very risky.

>>127041421
Got in not because I read a book or saw a movie, was reading the newspaper about s company getting lynch for corruption and inmediatly went to its reports which look healthier, the dividends, assets then i searched for its stock value and VOILA they were plumbing next to its nominal value.

Not a genius, not an expert. Took 100k and brought them, the next two days brought 100k more. Now its worth around 230k in 3 months. Kinda interesting, but will leave when it reaches 250k.

After the deals i got into reading day trading, warren advices and other similar books. My first reaction is linked to "volatility" and at those stocks the return is high but with a high risk.

Shit got me paranoid at some point when it went to 170k. Now it has stabilized but like common sense tells you: its part gambling, its part analysis, its all about people mood and appreaciation of the stock.

>>127042343
He still doesn't get it though.
Fucking retarded aussie haha.

>>127043543
Who ever said it was for rich people is lying. Rich people get juice offers at banks, they do a whole set of indexes mixed with loans to certain business sector and they offer you a 30% interest/year at max and if it excced then its for the bank. If the package fails then they comprnsate you with 5% interest.

The ticket to get in? Putting +1.5m

The richer you get the safer you are. Banks wont even charge you fees or maintenance.

So I didnt gain 40k, but saved 9 months of investing, at what risk? Wont recommmend stock trading.

I looked at crypto in /biz/ and this is what think of it: you get rich in bitcoin, but good luck cashing out. At least for someone leaving outside the US its not worth it. Whales are using the exchanges to cash out atm. Will buy when it goes down to 300usd again.

>i hope you guys have a hard income not living of speculation and usury

>>127042674
10 May be a bridge too far without some knowledge and skills, but 6 or maybe 7 (long term of course) is not unrealistic, just based on broad ETFs or mutual funds if you are a weak faggot.

>I can't make a guaranteed 10 percent a year so I better just let inflation slowly eat away my savings account.

This, ladies, is what poors think.

>>127043543
This is usually how I trade. I search the biggest market losses of the day and the reasons why. A lot of healthy companies take a dump for PR reasons and quickly return to their original value. I do really well on these trades.

A couple weeks ago I made 10% ROI on Snapchat after they took a massive fall. It bounced back almost immediately.

>>127045648
Did you jump in with United?

It's a rich mans game in that you need a sizeable initial investment to get started and actually make good money. Most people nowadays are living paycheck to paycheck or in massive debt, so the thought of being able to dump $25k into some stocks isn't a reality.

I am in good goy status right now, big piles of debt while going through school (I am 31, returning to college after a lifetime of mistakes and dumbassery) but when I graduate and am actually earning good money, the first thing I will do is play the stock market and cryptocurrencies. I know how they work, I just don't have the money to do it.

>>127045451
Well, I can make a guaranteed 10% return too if I invest 10 dollars. It's just as your portfolio grows it becomes harder and harder to squeeze out those percentage points. Whereas if you put your money in the bank, it doesn't matter how much you put in- you will get a guaranteed return.

I don't really care what you do with your money but to tell people that there is guaranteed money in stocks is just bullshit.

>>127046373
You can always catch the train as a wage slave. Dont know much about US market but here, buying real state using bank laons for 15-20 years is a profitable business. You literally live at debt all the time but you will be living in a nice house that in a near future will be yours to sell at 1.5 its value right now, hard asset no chance to lose. And it will cut only a % of your wage.

Great move if you are out of capital

why cant we do a company that specializes at geo-politics reports? So we do a profile of /pol/ contributors(think tank reporte and opinion), then index them, make the stocks public with a fair share to all of us as funding members.

We could charge ads and sell the data to gov and other institutions.

send me a email at [email protected] if interested

>>127047416
After a while contributors can be hired or keep in with juice salaries. Other boards are making money, /pol/ has a vast human resource ans IQ we should do better

>>127047416
4chan has been running at a loss for years because no one wants to buy the adspace and the data that is collected is pretty much useless from a commercial standpoint.

It's an interesting idea but ultimately it's a waste of time and effort that could better be utilised elsewhere.

>>127033785
The stock "market" has been made intentionally so complex that only a handful of insiders actually understand how it works now.

Frankly, a casino is more honestly run than the stock market is.

You may make money following the policies of the people who really run it, right up until they decide to reverse policy for whatever hidden reason - and then they'll take everything you thought you made and then some from you.

>>127048145
You are not catching the idea. We are popular, even mainstream news discuss about a frog deity. Now let me ask you, have you see how many shitty companies get funds that they shouldnt? Even out enemies will shill our company attempt. The idea is not to stay but to launch a project to market it can cash out ;) like a dot com era stock.

Crowd funding, selling stocks, the funding will come to it for the fuzz

>>127048145
>It's an interesting idea
Nowdays you only need that to sell it to others greedness

>>127033785
>adding nothing of value

Educate yourself you retard

>>127049006
And we can do it again, and again till the goyim wakes up.

>we jews now

Bitcoin and Etherium

Get in now and get paid

>>127042343
You are a fucking retard, interest rate are at an all time (((artificial))) low. People are basicaly forced to put there money in the stock market if they want to see any kind of return.

You'll get make much more with an index fund.

>>127049209
Cash out, whales are using exchanges for it. You are only rich on btc, never forget it. The more you wait the close to bottle neck cashing out you are.

Whales made btc crash to 200, always remeber it. You dont go against hedge funds, and now people are buying crypto more than ever but whales are selling like there is no tomorrow.

>>127033785
I only invest in the finest meme coins

>>127049209
> t. Burger neet with neck crust and no idea how money works.

When you lose all your birthday card money on that crap, dive head first out of a high window.

>>127049587
>Whales made btc crash to 200, always remeber it.
crash to 200? why not 0? do you hear yourself?

use a robo advisor; i'm pretty well diversified. I dont own any individual stocks. Some crypto. Some gold.

>>127050332
>no idea how money works
neither does the government, but that doesnt stop them

>>127050332
They are hip, because they are duplicating their BTC invesment, they are blind to fiat money that rekt the last group who got in before it went to 200.

I saw it coming because the US gov gave green light to exchangers, not entirely. So who can do new ones and pass the bar? Wall street lawyers, and why would they lobby to get into crypto if the loss as an exchanger is huge? And the only reasonable answer is Hedge Fund / Whale profit. But those at /biz/ are going to the moon... in btc.

i expect more so far jpmorgan is in the game, others will come too.

>>127049587
long term investors would be wise to buy into ethereum, like right now. It actually has practical applications and has been attracting major interest+investment. Mark my words ethereum will be as ubiquitous as credit card exchanges are within five years.

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I gamble on penny stocks and cryptos with small amounts of money that I don't mind losing. Every once in a while it pays off—$50 turns into $2000. If I'd held onto some of them for a long time or put in proper orders I'd have made a lot of money, but it's easy to say that kind of thing in hindsight and almost impossible to actually act on it. As far as I can tell, it's all a big zero-sum pyramid scheme where people who are wealthier and/or smarter just take money from stupids/poor people. YMMV.

>>127050854
Can you cash out. Directly using etherium? The only commodity like is btc, altcoins are like ponzi, or herbalife pyramid. Once you are in you desperate try to shill.

You can lie others but not yourself, take my advice and cash out. You made 20-120%? Consider your self lucky and reduce it to the initial invesment in Btc

I usuallly charge for advices, but you niggers are the ones who i spent time joking around

Nice you are reducing risk. I was hoping Trump could make a more treating statement on BestKorea so metals go up. But he didnt said anything about last launches

>>127052744
>>127050668

>>127051588
yes you can cash out to USD easily with ethereum.

I dont hold BTC because I see inherent use for it. I hold ethereum because it has real world value in commerce.

>>127033785
I trade commodities, short copper lads

>>127053173
meant to say I see no inherent use for BTC. It looks like a classic bubble to me; ppl are buying it ONLY because they expect its value to rise, not for any other reason