Is /pol/ more libertarian or fascist? I'll be posting t

Daily reminder that Jewish capitalism is not the same as Paleo (goyish) Capitalism. Libertarians of /pol/ are Paleolibertarians.

Fascism sounds nice but it is basically ethno-socialism. The free market has been the greatest political innovation of the last 500 years.

>>126949279
exblain this

>>126949100
im a capitalist hurr durr

>>126949562
thts an economic system

>>126949531
Jewish capitalism is based on selfish desire and extreme individualism where as Paleo capitalism cares more for voluntary collectivism, Christian values, and creating strength through the market. More culturally conservative, opposing things like globalism, degeneracy and open borders.

NLP

Anchor - Gadsen = Nazis

>make the libertarians look like nazis

This shit

is so fucking easy

to spot

>>126950176
u need a morale and traditonally educated society for this. wud not work in a degenerate society like the one we live in currently.

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>>126949100

>>126949100
I'm a Libertarian Fascist.

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>>126950310
Of course not, you need a paleo right wing populism moment first to clean the streets, so to speak.

Shit I don't have the right pic, enjoy this axiomatic statement for purging communists instead.

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>>126949100
>fascism
>swastika

(((libertarianism))) is a pro Jewish ideology. /pol/ is a natsoc board

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>Fascism 52%
Kek

>>126951244
Jewish libertinism is NOT Paleolibertarianism. Capitalists of /pol/ are paleo and pissed off about the Jewish enslavement of the West.

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>>126951116


"Abolition of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists. " - Communist Manifesto


"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property(Capitalism) - Communist Manifesto

>>126950176
>capitalism
>collectivism

gave em a good kek

>>126950929
what does this even mean.

>>126949100
Personally I'd say libertarian, but since the term is still highly polluted I said fascism to differentiate /pol/ from the rest of the world.

>>126951711
Voluntary collectivism is individualistic. Fuck Jewish Capitalists that day otherwise

>>126949100
Blatant datamining but I'll bite.

>>126951559
any form of capitalism is inherently anti white and pro jewish

>>126952786
You know Hitlerites are paleo capitalists right?

>>126952990
No, Hitlerians were Prussian socialists.

>>126953211
They're propertarian tradionalists.

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>>126949100
Libertarian if possible, Fascist if necessary.

>>126949100
A sociey can only become libertarian if they become fascist first.

>>126949100
http://www.strawpoll.me/13034542

this one is better

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>>126953560
>There's people voting for global capitalism/socialism
Absolutely disgusting.

What most libertarians don't know that in order for such a system to work. Your going to need a ethnostate consistent of europeans, otherwise you get a shitty nonproductive state

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>>126949100
Both

/thread

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>>126954496
No most libertarians know this, which is why we need to cut the gibsmedats. CUT ALL THE GIBSMEDATS.Whites will then see they need to stick together when theres a lack of social saftey net, meanwhile nogs will chimpout when they dont get their checks, probably blame "da wyite mayn" (they'd be right) Riot and set their own town a blaze crushing any chance for reproduction in the post apocalyptic browntown.

some people say a white ethnostate is the means to libertarianism.
I say libertarianism is the means to a white ethnostate, granted I only know the climate of the states, this probably wouldn't work in europe.

i'm more of a feudalism man myself

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>>126949279
Fucking this. National Socialism is not Jewish international socialism and Paleocapitalism is not Jewish international Capitalism

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>>126954760
and also this.

>>126953560
a lot of these overlap.

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We're a loving combination of the two :3

Hey Metricfags! Are those "huddle boards" behind those Foxconn slaves?

>>126955303
>>126954496
what about the fact that the entirety of europe and the US were once white ethnostates

>>126955303
Usually immigrants work here so as to return it back to their own country. Since they make more here than where they were. Luckily most people don't know this but most states, most landmasses is governed or controlled by europeans

>>126956178
its a damn shame. fucking neo-liberals and marxists wrecked our country. it started with letting blacks and women vote. then continue to destroy america with the civil rights act.

>>126951244
Fagcist socialism is just plain old socialism.

Capitalism? There's no such fucking thing unless you're referring to the black market made illegal by corporatist, communist and socialist governments.

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I'm a monarchist. A king's natural interest is to keep his nation in good condition in the long run, the people happy and the balance between liberty and responsibility in order.

Monarchism is the natural unification of National Socialism and Libertarianism.

I honestly don't care too much either way as long as the country becomes white again, but I think we need a strong authoritarian state to do that.

>>126956663
>Civil Rights Vs Property Rights needs to be a thread on /pol

All mankind may enjoy property rights by default of each individual's ability to maintain dominion over that which is exclusive to his/her self, i.e. dominion over one's own body, time, mind/free will, labor and fruits thereof.

Why trade the protections of property afforded to real man for mere civil rights afforded to fictional legal constructs like "citizen".

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>>126949100

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New research shows Jews not expelled 109 but 359 times!

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>>126949100
>Is /pol/ more libertarian or fascist?
>>126953387

>>126957005
I agree that's how it should be, but you must admit that this has failed mroe than it has worked out.

>>126949279
How would you know? Especially when you are a Jewish capitalists/commie who just parrot what everyone else says?

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>>126949100

Fascism and Libertarianism complement each other so well. Fascism can fix the weakness in atomized individualism while libertarian economics can fix the hole nat-soc falls into when it's not mobilizing for or fighting some major conflict.

It's just a matter of finding the right balance between leaving people to their own devices to create massive economic prosperity and freedom when we can afford it and turning into a psychopathic tribe of genocidal exterminators whenever some sub human garbage drags their sorry asses from the desert and tries to fuck with us.

shame the (((divide))) and (((conquer))) tactic works so well on us :(

The only points of social order wherein I see libertarians and national socialists finding a point of agreement and compromise is with regard to nationalizing fractional reserve central banks and/or healthcare (and that's an aside from the given and accepted tax payer funding of military, law enforcement, roads, highways, bridges, etc)

Regardless, (((globalism))) won't be defeated under any one banner, whether that banner be BLM, Antifa, Libertarianism, Socialism/national socialism, or whatever have you.

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>>126958617
Bite me, nigger. I am the cosmic rebel. I parrot no one.

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>>126958580
Failed? Most government on Earth have been some type of monarchy. Notoriously bad and twisted monarchs naturally got a lot more publicity than the bland and decent monarchs. If we are teached about a king or queen, he/she was either a total madman or a great conqueror. Often both.

Although I support an absolute form of monarchy, there should definitely be someone in control for cases when the monarch simply is or becomes incompetent. For example the royal family should have the power to de-throne the king.

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>almost half libertardian
prepare the gas chambers Heinrich

>>126959677
Stop larping, NadSuckers never gassed anyone.

>>126949418
I mostly disagree with the fascism point but you are spot on about the free market. It's basically the only thing that can guarantee non-violent mutually assured destruction.

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>>126959918
>autismerican not being able to understand irony
Clear the headlines

>>126949279
you'd need to convince all the folks at Reason magazine of this. They all seem to at the very least, tacitly support globalism. And Reason mag seems to be the keeper of the zeitgeist of the libertarian movement right now. You can all you want about what /pol/ believes but it want stop that mag from poisoning the well.

>>126949279
Daily reminder that Libertarianism in any form is still degeneracy.

>>126960182
*say all you want
*won't stop
>fucking hell @ the typos

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>>126960350

>>126960182
How do I stop those fags? They won't listen to me edgy truth. Best I can do is meme the true redpill so others can pass the info up.

>>126959412
Tht just turns into typical noble-royal conflicts leading to a divided and stagnant nation.

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>>126959677
the spurdos were obviously jealous of us for having a king nigga.
>pic related

>>126949100
This is an anarcho-fascist board.

Fascist due to the industrial and technological revolution leaving us too intertwined with the rest of society to pull off anarchy. So the onus is on each of society's members to step up.

>>126949100
Nazism is communism.

>>126960756
meme on then, you patriotic egdelord

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>>126961789
>Nazism is communism.
Judaism is Communism, you dirty jew

>>126962252
>Not realizing Nazism is the new Jew

Enjoy killing your own race Bubba.

>>126961670
literally combining opposite systems

>>126962465
they contrast so well tho. lazze fair in times of peace, war socialism when you need to shoa some "people"

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>>126949100
Friendly reminder that (((socialism for white people dude lmao))) is still socialism and gets you a one(1) coupon for a free helicopter ride.

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>>126962351
>Not realizing Nazism is the new Jew
>Enjoy killing your own race Bubba.
how do you figure?
you're just a jew blabbering away,
>bubba
fucktard kike piss off

>>126962777
No jew here.
Religion in general is degenerate desu.

>inb4 atheist
Nothing wrong in thinking there a god while not following any belief.

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>>126962942
>No jew here.
>Religion in general is degenerate desu.
>inb4 atheist
>Nothing wrong in thinking there a god while not following any belief.
what is your problem with nazism?

>>126962942
c'mon you should know nazis don't care about the jewish religion. They hate ETHNIC jews. (anskenazi people)

>>126963054
I see cucks like you willingly destroying your race when race is not an issue.

Be a fascist, that cool and all just don't be a Nazi

>>126963195
>ethnics
>not just looking for the best in anyone
Sure is cucky desu.

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>>126963316
>I see cucks like you willingly destroying your race when race is not an issue.
what race am i, you filthy lying kike?
>Be a fascist, that cool and all just don't be a Nazi
why the fuck not, you dirty yid? >>126958207
homofascism is for dirty faggots like you, you stinking dirty kike

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>>126963316
>sure is cucky desu.
I'm not a natsoc, Im libertarian as fuck. I'm just race realist as fuck, but i'll overide my racism for special individuals.

pic related is from the only jew I care about.

Libertarianism is the cause of all the problems killing our society i.e. Men becoming feminised, Gay/pedo acceptance, Not stopping Moslems because muh freedome etc

>>126963706
I ain't a fascist, I prefer helicopters over gas chambers.

>>126963754
>Muh generalization
Also I can agree with him on intelligence but its not solely based on race

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>>126964101
>I ain't a fascist, I prefer helicopters over gas chambers.

>>126963054
>>126962777
*sigh*. Nazis are LARPers. Zionism and the Jews thrive on that shit. It makes them stronger, gives them a boogeyman to point at, and the leadership of most of those sites are fucking suspicious. I cannot take anyone Hitlerites who claim to be anti ZoG seriously. They're the first ones out their poised in LARP gear for Haaretz promo shots on big bad racists denying the Holocaust and questioning Israel.

The movement is a con and a front. Zionist Jews admit that they need "anti-semitism" to (deflect criticism). These fuckers basically help them. If you haven't realized this on your own, you have about as much common sense as phlegm in a fucking jar.

>>126962743
ah so some sort of dynamic mix

>>126963855
>Men becoming feminised, Gay/pedo acceptance, & Not stopping Moslems
why do you think that is the result of lazze fair? it seems quite clear to me this is egalitarian liberalism (muh tolerance), or in other words jewish communist subversion.

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>>126964217
yes, its a quite edgy, truthful and memeable ideology.

>>126964184
Whoops I realize that I have fucked up lol.

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>>126964101
Are you just not into race stuff or somthing?
I know theres much more to rothbard, I just love his social commentary tho.

>>126960182
Reason Mag is retarded. I don't think it's safe to say they're the gatekeepers.
Any libertarian who advocates open borders is a retard, especially if they advocate for that during a welfare state. You cannot have open borders and a welfare state. It's dumb enough to have open borders without a welfare state.
Their currently running an article about how many people will "be left uninsured" if the AHCA passes. They're neocons who want gays to marry and weed legalized, nothing more.

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>>126964211
>*sigh*. Nazis are LARPers. Zionism and the Jews thrive on that shit. It makes them stronger, gives them a boogeyman to point at, and the leadership of most of those sites are fucking suspicious. I cannot take anyone Hitlerites who claim to be anti ZoG seriously. They're the first ones out their poised in LARP gear for Haaretz promo shots on big bad racists denying the Holocaust and questioning Israel. The movement is a con and a front. Zionist Jews admit that they need "anti-semitism" to (deflect criticism). These fuckers basically help them. If you haven't realized this on your own, you have about as much common sense as phlegm in a fucking jar.
fuck off you stinking jew

>>126964515
you have a folder of multidirectional facing merchants?

>>126964211
I think it all comes down to messaging. Someone like GLR was effective because he kept hitting the third rails, the alt-right / /pol/ is effective for that reason too. However, for the most part much of the "goals" of Nazism can be accomplished much more efficiently without fetishizing an ideology that supposedly killed millions and led to the islamization of Europe, and 1488ers just end up being in-fighter retards and concern shills.

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>>126964639
>you have a folder of multidirectional facing merchants?
don't you?

>>126960182
Just read the comments section they're based as fuck.

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>>126964738
no I only have one of each i find intresting, does this mean im not allowed in the ethnostate?

>>126964226
This. That shit is being forced on us. Like the bakers who got fucked for not wanted to bake a gay cake and trannies in our bathrooms. The left is the one pushing that.

>>126953452

This. We will make the helicopters, the fascists will use the helicopters. Everything is fine.

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>>126964577
NazBol too

>>126965008
no.

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>>126964873
>allowed in the ethnostate?

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>>126965008
>NazBol too
bolshevik scum

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>>126965075

Imo always been a mix. I'd say MOST sensible /pol/acks are libertarians, with less nazis. There was a raid from stormfront on this board in like 2010 that brought all the storm fags here.

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>>126965263
>Imo always been a mix. I'd say MOST sensible /pol/acks are libertarians, with less nazis. There was a raid from stormfront on this board in like 2010 that brought all the storm fags here.
when did you arrive?

>>126964476
I'm not because I've seen the stereotypes broken so much in my upbringing. I find that racial issues are pretty much eliminated when you raises the youth of any race in a stable environment. I find poverty is what creates the niggers of any race when its rampant and if you through in poor education it further increases the amount of those who become niggers of their own race.

Yes wanting government to step in and educate is communist in itself but private schools could try to step in and try to get more educated if it means a cost. A cost a government should subsidize. In the long term of things a better educated population will result in less violence, less crime, and less ignorant trying to hold their own to their shitty levels in order to not feel bad for being ignorant. Capitalism will better thrive under automation but we can not have that when we have a population that is not educated enough to ensure that automation can run.

Through education in the STEM fields we can further expand higher education in the Fine Arts. Then we will become the sophisticated and civilized society that we all dream of.

>>126965097
WTF, you're gonna let gooks move in!? No way, I didn't sign up for this shit.

You fags gotta stop jerking off the asians, THEY'RE NOT FUCKING WHITE, THEY'RE NOT EVEN FROM FUCKING EARTH.

>>126965008
>commies supporting nationalism

Nice meme fag

>>126965008
>allowing subversive communists into your ranks
shiggydiggy

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>>126961670
That is an oxymoron

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>>126965491
>WTF, you're gonna let gooks move in!? No way, I didn't sign up for this shit.
>You fags gotta stop jerking off the asians, THEY'RE NOT FUCKING WHITE, THEY'RE NOT EVEN FROM FUCKING EARTH.
dirty jew fuck off

liberty or death
authoritarianism is a tell-tale sign of a nigger-tier population that needs authority figures forcing them to do whatever instead of voluntarily associating, cooperating and creating added value that benefits everyone involved whilst leaving no chance for parasitic behaviour and wealth redistribution to emerge

>show natsoc flag
>natsoc is fascism

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libertarianism and National Socialism are incredibly far from each other yet they are "on the same side"

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>>126965587
we are the future

>>126965374
2009

>>126965751
We hate the left that much.
We can have the libertarian/fascism fight after the left is crushed.

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>>126965990
well you must be in a very senior position
please accept my apologies for offending an OG

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>>126965751
paleolibertarians and natsocs both want a lot of the same stuff though: preservation of the race/family/traditionalism, the removal of communist and jewish subversion, a solution to the moral decay today

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>>126965403
>Public Schools
>niggers of any race

I'm sorry dude, you lost me. I know plenty of great brown people personally, I don't hate them or think they're dumb. but the average dindu on the streets in my hood is a fucking retard that probably belongs in jail. its reasonable to predertime the general nigger population to be retards.

>>126966180
>predetermine

>>126966128
Bix nood

>>126966180
The issue with public schools is their monopoly on thought. You have to have really good parents and be smart to not be brainwashed by public schooling.

>>126966180
I grew up mostly in public schools and all reality its a matter of actually trying and being yourself.
Christ I was told multiple times did I was the black sheep of the entire school due to how I carried myself and my determinism. There nothing wrong with it, the issue that came from it is the teacher Unions and the force of using more Adminstration then needed, even more when you have teachers put into administration and they utterly fail at it.

Now remember I said I think race is redudant and there is plenty of blacks and other minorities that want the same things and want to do the same shit as white but are peer pressured by the nigger into shit so they can fall in line with their stereotype.

If you want less dindu's you are going to have to start somewhere because poor don't take education serious.

>>126966614
This, the shit I have told my father that goes on in public school and him explaining the BS of it has saved me from being a sheep.

Can someone give me a basic gestalt on what a fascist/libertarian country would look like, I'm hoppe libertarian but could never make the jump for larger government like Natsoc

Only good capitalist is a dead capitalist

Fuck the cucktarian kikes, hang'em high and burn them dry!

>>126967078
Cuba in the 1950s pre Castro

vote harder nazibros

>>126966777
I've only ever been to public schools. Through college. It's bad and I'd prefer an alternative for my kids, one that doesn't hate the achievements of the USA and instills pride in individuality instead of conformity.
If my dad wasn't so based I'd probably be a liberal by now. The reality is a lot of parents aren't like ours and just let the schools spoon feed their children. It's harder to escape public schooling right wing than it should be.
Also I wouldn't want the schools to be the reverse - right wing brainwashing. Let the best idea survive. So I don't support public schooling because it's too easy for it to become a propaganda tool of the government.

>>126949100
if you aren't both, you don't belong here. Fascism is how we will achieve a libertarian utopia.

>>126967303
>Poor Monkey spic country
>Is socialist
Surprise, surprise.

>>126949100
National Socialist with frontiers, libertarian in the inside politics of the country.

>>126967722
Oh I know what you mean.
I've been in on base school through all of Elementary and it was just patriotism and actual education. When I went to middle school it all changed and I realized the whole race thing is forced by the ignorant and event those who would be consider the smart would fall in line with it. I also got stabbed in highschool which really made me worked hard so I can have a higher education and make more money to prevent it. However the social part of public schools really does suffer in private. I do want to keep my future kids in public but I do plan to more to a more wealthier part of a town where ever I end up. Glad I am the first in the family to get a degree first instead of going the military route.

Honestly the issues with schools is that politics are now affecting children at a younger age and we no longer teach civics and practical things to our children. What we need is to get rid of is teacher unions.

>>126967303
Only good socialist is a dead socialist

Fuck the cuckalist kikes, hang'em high and burn them dry!

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>>126968015
Nigger, this place is pure anarchic capitalist where money is worshipped and burgerstan is considered paradise because of hurrr shekels.

Go back to reading jewish literature Jamal cuckriguez Shekestein

>>126949100
There is no unifying ideology beyond a hate for jews and a love of happenings. /pol/ is a diverse bunch. You may see a few more fascists here than in the real work because their speech is repressed most places.

>>126968442
The social part is the drawback. I don't want my children to be sheltered, but there are some good private schools that have big communities and still have sports and stuff. And if public schools were abolished the schools would have to become more social.
The situation now is shit, but I agree that disbanding the teachers unions would be a step in the right direction. No more tenure as well.

It's not one or the other

Libertarian for a homogeneous society
More reactionary when your society is under threat

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>>126949100
You left off autistic as a third option. This would cover 95 percent of /pol/.

>>126967507
Could you elaborate on that, sounds pretty interesting.

>>126968599
No im not saying you're wrong, its just that jungle spics can't be trusted with responsibility. capitalism only works with white morality.

>>126965751
>libertarianism and National Socialism are incredibly far from each other yet they are "on the same side"

Are they really that far from each other?

Nationali Socialism/fascism = our government isn't protecting or representing us and our way of life is under threat so we need to take it into our own hands

Libertarianism is actually very similar, in that the main government in power is not helping you and that they are not working for your interests

>>126957005
>kings
>giving a shit about anything other than living off their peoples wealth without earning it

It's almost like it's still a shittier version of capitalism goy

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>>126949100
>>>126968599
> capitalism only works with white morality.

Is that why the US is such an awesome place today?

Capitalism is mammonistic judaified money worship.

It is not a surprising fact that US is the source of the most depraved shit culture on the planet.

>abolish publics
I don't think it would be best. May have to keep them for those who simply can't afford it. We should reduce it to a degree but a better issues would to have parents the ability to put their child in a school that they and their child feels best they will thrive in. With the only limiting factor being either the students intelligence or the parents educational background. We should have some form that has a school set up to best serve students in that matter.


>no more tenure
There are so many people I have talked to at Uni that wants this. I have been personally fucked by these lazy assholes multiple times. The theory of having them is good but it just gives them room to be extra shitty. In the STEM field an unenthusiastic professor results in many students failing.

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>>126968548
Well shit, you burgers betting start necking yourselves, being the biggest international socialists state in history and all.

Gys jamal

>>126969197
you're right theres only 3 factions on /pol/
>Fascists/NatSoc
>Libertarians/AnCaps
>Autism/Anti-Normie Action

>>126949100
you can't use this datametrics bullshit on /pol/. None of the results are valid. The only thing you can say for certain, once and for all, is that /pol/ hates niggers and kikes.

>>126949100
Libertarian is the preferred form of society. It's one of the frontier and exploration and rugged, individualistic spirit. But... It has no inherent self defenses to Communism.

The body politic will die as communism festers and infects every branch of the government, steadily increasing government power with the sickly sweet promise of "efficiency" for the power hungry and "gibs me dat" for the least productive members of society.

Fascism and national socialism are the body politic's natural defense against communism. It is a fever that seizes the body, trying to kill the socialist disease. It risks killing the body as well, so we must remember the Libertarian paradise we once had and wish to return to.

It's the Cincinnatus Gambit - electing a dictator to save the republic in times of emergency and hoping he will return to his farm. It's crystallized in Latin Republicanism and the actions of men like George Washington and Augusto Pinochet.

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>>126970052

As if americans arent a bunch of violent nigger faggots?

You faggots nuked japan, you should have nuked yourselves.

>>126969744
>calling anyone jamal
you must have a bad nigger complex from browsing /pol/ why even lurk?

>>126969264
It wasn't ideal, but Batista staged a coup, and took over the government, outlawed communism, and took our regulations on business (but at the same time, regulated business to maximize profits) so what you had was a super high economic growth in the country, but basically no free speech (tailored to anti communism,) and while business went wild and boomed, most people who sought to maximize profit took advantage of batista's coddling of industry, and things like healthcare and education were way underrepresented in business and wasn't that great. So led to a big rich/poor gap with a huge HUGE middle class, but the poor were poor as fuck and were like stranded in the jungles and shit or lived in super crowded cities with no schooling opportunities or affordable doctors. The schooling and healthcare was shitty prior to the 1952 coup though, and probably was made better by it

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>>126970349
Its not my fault that americans give their kids such retarded names

Maybe its from all the ashkenazi blood from marry kikes

>>126949100
lets say it this way, capitalism & free market works fine, but we should get rid of jews so they dont manipulate it

>>126949100
Fascism where the citizenry has unalienable gun rights. We use this model to restore the stability of our races and cultures worldwide. Maybe also get some lebensraum, nahmean?
Then when its a discussion between civilized white men we can return to the libertarian model, but beware, this is as cyclical as it gets, you're only postponing the inevitable return of today's modern issues, but this model at least allows for continuation instead of whites going extinct and earth plunging into a multiple thousand year dark age.

>>126949100
>be America
>founded on liberty
>mostly libertarian
>fight Nazis cause it was the right thing to do
>now some want to be Nazis

The fuck guys come on. Nazism is extreme, just go with the next best option

>>126970673
Was fighting Nazis the best thing to do?
They were fighting the evil USSR and ridding Europe of Jews and communists (which undoubtedly in the long run was a worthwhile project)

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>>126970673
> Fight germans because hurr if we didnt we would be speaking german now

> End up getting tacoed and speaking spanish

>>126949100
>fellow /pol/lacks
>/pol/lacks
>lacks
put some effort into it, (((shill)))

>>126970673
Fuck this mentality, if our grandparents or great grandparents knew that THIS is what they were fighting for, MANY would admit they'd been duped.
Regardless of what you think of the axis, or how EBUL it was, THIS is the world we have after their defeat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMfk5UeGw4E

>>126970673
Stormfags are real friend.

>>126971012
We could of easily went on and destroyed the Soviets after the Nazis but we just didn't. Create a time machine and fix it.

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>>126949100
>>fellow /pol/lacks
>>/pol/lacks
>>lacks
>put some effort into it, (((shill)))

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>>126949100
we live in a post-constitutional police state. fascism is not more extreme than what we are currently living under, and it is the only way to restore the social compact created in the declaration and constitution. THERE IS NO LEGAL RECOURSE.

>>126950176
If you can't regulate the market to control greed it will run rampant and we will be in the same situation today. There's nothing stopping a capitalist from deviating from state values.

>>126951244
This
>>126951559
Why not just be NatSoc dumbass?

>>126969264
To add a small point on my post here >>126970432 , it was like an economic Wild West, with government involved to maximize profit and gain more power and respect, and government shutting down communist movements within Cuba. Like a fascist/capitalist hybrid.

>>126955303
Libertarians are civic nationalists, they do not discriminate based on race like National Socialists do, that is what makes Libertarianism inherently inferior to National Socialism.

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>>126970638
Nigger, you're Dominican. You're a mix of spic and nigger. Disgusting.

I'm not a fascist and I'm not a whiny hipster so I don't know what to click

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>>126972220
I woud rather be a full fledge carbon black nigger than a jewlattoe satan loving mammonist aka american capitalcuck.

Go back to paying taxes for your ebt cards, slave

Give me Fascism or give me death!

>>126972733
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck Trump into eternity.

>>126949100
honestly amazed at the balance 50/50. If I were to guess it would be like 90/10.

>>126969653
I'd pay more for my kid to go to cover part of another child's tuition. I'm sure others would do the same. Aside from voluntary charity the poor could homeschool or be taught a trade by their parents.
Not everyone needs to be formally educated anyway. It does fuckall for a lot of people.
The theory behind tenure was that they couldn't get fired for teaching counterculture views. But instead they just indoctrinate students with their views and silence dissent, as well as become lazy.

>>126966777
>so many gamatical and spelling errors
Public school huh?

Libertarianism, is for faggots.

Real men believe in National Socialism.

>>126974091
90/10 which way?

>>126972132
Libertarians let it happen naturally, NatSocs force it.
If you really think whites are better or would be better off segregated then you'd be able to prove it under libertarianism.

>>126974319

lmfao, okay you fucking nigger spic.

>>126974394
Fascism

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>>126974319

>>126974170
Yes we need a new focus on trade however I do feel we need to raise the base level of our populations education to remove a multitude of issues.

>>126974276
Lack of caring and lmao 420

>>126974319
our cultures have very different definitions of "real men"

here in the states real men are seen as those who are independent and can govern themselves. not people who beed a powerful authority in their lives telling them what they can and can't do.

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Ancap is 100% fine with letting communists live in gay transsexual drug orgies as long as they keep to themselves and don't say their gonna kill you. Their entire MUH NAP only works if it' antifa tier and not peaceful commune tier

The exact same with non whites a huge community of Jews or Nigger could form and do all sorts of Jewish/Nigger tricks but as long as they don't threaten you ancap is find with them.

And libertarians just fails on both sides
Anti fascism = Anti white

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>>126974091
this is why democracy doesn't work

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>>126974989

>Collectivism is bad
>Individualism is good

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>>126949100
desu I'm a racist anarcho-primitivist who wants to genocide all nonwhites so that MAYBE just maybe my larpy dreams can come true

>>126976222
Where does a "giant capitalist" come from if there is no government or collectivism only individualism?

>>126976168
Run with the rest of the lemings

>>126968599
a dominican trying to call someone a nigger

fucking mixed race critters talking shit are hilarious desu

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>>126949100
Could any of these corporations survive if it wasn't for government that backed them? These companies are Dr. Frankenstein's monster created by the Feds.

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>>126976608

>Calling someone else a Lemming
>Not listening to William Luther Pierce

do you even read my dude?

>>126975098
I think jobs and no welfare will solve more problems than just education.
The ghettos are shitholes because the welfare state lets the occupants exist without working. Idle hands do the devil's work and all that. What would change if they were educated and still able to be unemployed and live in apartments? Still leeches, still drug dealing, still gangs. It's the lack of jobs that did it. Detroit was a vibrant city when there were a lot of jobs. You could do good honest work and make a living at a job that required no education and it was fine. Now it's a shithole because there aren't jobs but the welfare state has been expanded. Better public education for them won't help. They need jobs and no welfare so they can't be leeches.

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all libertarians will eventually turn national socialist if given enough time and red pills

>>126977167
NatSoc is not far right.

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>>126976553
Yeah a bunch of individual pussies. It's only a matter of time before you get used and abused.

>>126977231
It's third position and doesn't subscribe to such limiting things as Left and Right you can't even really put in on that graph.

>>126977023
Yes I see the lack of jobs being an issue but when you look at the effects of education and what it does to a population further prevents crime. When it comes to children who simply are not allowed to work, what else can be done to prevent such issues.

Now for the welfare state it is a massive issues that is abused a lot. People tend to think its just minorities but the abuse is something across all boards. We do need to make those on welfare be under stricter supervision in things such as drug test but we also need to find people responsible for getting out of this. This is where making it easier for companies to expand and grow to provide more jobs could help. Shit even decriminalizing marijuana to the levels of alcohol would open up the work force to get jobs. I've talk to small business owners that would want to give jobs but they can't hire because a person can't pass a drug test due to marijuana.

>>126976921
So you want to collect the lemmings and make them do what you want

>>126977441
I've seen it put in the center at the top of the authoritarian scale, and I think that's a better place for it than far right. Economically it's a mixed economy, right? Can't have that on the right of the economic scale. Plus lots of state funded stuff.

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>>126977564
What's best for society. The stronger and better men should have more power to run society and maintain happiness and freedoms in the nation.

Democracy is a popularity competition not a test of the best and libertarians/ancap simply put money and freedom over everything even if this hurts the nation and continues the trend of globalization

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>>126977564
Yes they need a sense of duty and to start working for the greater good. It's in our nature to have a hierarchy and guess what? It works better.

Old pol was libertaian
Nu polddit is facist

Fascism to weed out the degenerates. Libertarian after we've done so.

>>126960111
I know it's a stereotype but goddamn I'm hungry now

>>126978073
I just think we should go back to our original set up or a confederacy then you could have your own fashist state if you want and ill not live there

>>126978184

The greater good never stays good we need to unlemming the lemmings so they can think for themselfs and make the right choices on their own

>>126977844
That's where it best fits on the graph but really it's very hard to fit fascism or natsoc on a graph, since they don't subscribe to just tradition nor """""Progressiveness""""" nor capitalism or communism/socialism.

>>126977525
Find me the stats of crime for a group of high school graduates who don't work, live in close proximity to one another, and live off the state, and I'll bet it's similar to what we see in the ghettos with high school dropouts. Find me a similar stat line for college educated people in that situation. The problem is they don't exist, so we can't see, but I genuinely believe it would be the same. They have nothing to do but get into trouble and their social worlds are so small and tight nit they develop a form of tribalism. With no jobs they turn to crime like burglary and drug dealing for extra income because that's all that's available to them.
I don't care what race is using it (disproportionately minorities, btw). I just want it gone. It preserves the lazy and unambitions.
Yeah, legalizing drugs also takes away the market for gangs. Like when prohibition of alcohol was ended.

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>>126978913
Agreed. All these political graphs have their shortcomings.
I'm starting to like pic related, though.

>>126949100
>National Socialims
>Fascist
This is what lolbertarians actually believe

>>126978994
>Find the stats
Not so sure how to find stats like such but I make that assumption from my personal experience. I have seen that education, good education, not the ones who just coast it just because, has made improvements.

>>126979292
Yeah but what I'm getting at is that what you're seeing is related to them then finding a job. Take them out of the ghetto, educate them, then throw them back in without a job. My thought is that they'll just go back to their old ways in a short time.

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>>126978825
Well i do think you can do that afterwards. But i worry later down the line without that leader we get cucked and go back to suicide mode. I feel this is worse than having a bad leader. Also we're always gonna have people trying to take advantage of us.

>>126979673
Pretty sure those with an education do not want to stay in the ghetto. Plenty of the educated leave and never return to improve the area. Its the reason why ghettos remain ghettos and why I find liberals who live in their gates communities are some of the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

Maybe a trade program in the later half of public high schools should be devoted to trade work for those will low amplitude. We really need to start being real to kids at a certain age so they can either continue their path or up their game.

I couldn't vote from my ipad. I pick fascism. These tests are gay anyway. Who wants to know? CIA? FBI?

>>126953452
We should be like Rome.
We are libertarian in times of peace with no open borders.
In times of war we go full fash. If the leader doesn't want to step down we still have our guns and free speech. The people need to be united though

>>126980094
Yeah, exactly. They leave because the area is toxic. But those areas weren't toxic when there were jobs and less welfare. Get the jobs back, end the welfare state, and the educated won't need to leave because the community won't be toxic anymore.
Also are you talking publicly funded college or just high school? Because I'm mostly talking through high school.

>>126950929
and im a peaceful muslim

>>126959184
I'm liking what you guys have been saying

>>126972132
we don't discriminate because we don't want to have to pay for their deaths
this way most will die quickly and the few left will be allowed to stay, but will be bred out quickly due to much lower number
they earn their stay and if they can't, they die

>>126959184
But fascism and natsoc are good economically it's free enterprise up until it hurts the nation.

The """""Welfare""""" part is for people who need it as everyone literally everyone must help the community and if you are not you receive no money and most likely a good kick or bullet as well

>>126971776
Really weird, but interesting, any material you'd recommend? And why is it always healthcare and education that ends up being in some financial crisis?

>>126949100
I am fine with both systems but prefer the fashy choice.

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>>126976848
t. Jamal Cucklestein.

Go suck some more jewish dick

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>>126981887
Well the thing with future fash is we're gonna have a lot of machines doing work for us. Damn right we should get a piece of that.

>>126982256
Material? I don't really have anything, I just know from my grandparents lol, they were Cuban. I'm sure there's some out there, I saw this book https://www.amazon.com/dp/0615318568/?tag=cuba19521959-20#productDescription_secondary_view_div_1495675214483 I haven't read it, seems like a normal historical analysis though.

And because healthcare and education are sensitive topics and valuable for the population, a privilege in which everyone thinks is a right

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wow dead heat at 50% each.

What OP your last poll didn't go so well did it

http://www.strawpoll.me/13002473/r

>>126984294
Ignore it. It's going to be a bunch of retards trying to balance it so it's 50/50 again. It's pretty obvious they were rigging it and most likely will this time as well. Natsoc got a huge lead then all of a sudden was neck and neck

>>126982256
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0813537010/ref=pd_aw_sim_14_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Z2HSX1FTDHV47MAQT35H&dpPl=1&dpID=51OabMN4zcL

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0815956142/ref=pd_aw_sim_14_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Z2HSX1FTDHV47MAQT35H&dpPl=1&dpID=51G2iVfa46L

Here are some other books I think might shed some light on Batista during the 50's. 50s Cuba is what I imagine to be a fascist/free market country though lol

>>126984514
tht wasnt mine lol and there is so much wrong with tht poll.

>>126957788
358 first row is labels

>>126984679
Do you think the times that im posting this have any effect on the results? But yea, fascism was leading by like 55-45 for most of the day

>>126987403
You don't think libertarianism is better than fascism?