Am aware that different ppl r on pol at different times so t

>>126889632
Fascism with some libertarian elements.

natsocs are always trying to conflate themselves with libertarians in order to lend their nubshit ideology credence. here me stormfags: we want nothing to do with you fags. you are just as bad as commies. FUCK OFF

>would you rather live under the oppression of a tyrannical government that enforces racial purity and conformity with the status quo or would you rather be a free individual?
Hmm... That's a hard decision

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>>126889875
Fuck off and stop trying to divide

>>126889748
Which libertarian elemetns?

Government is obviously necessary, but freedom is as well. It's simply inhumane to control basic elements of human nature like speech and thought.

>libertarian
>friend
kek

>>126890149
Free speech, lower taxes, less government than classical Fascism, isolationist foreign policy.

>>126889632
Anarcho primitivism. I don't even care if I die when I'm 40.

Fascism is just the chemo you take before going libertarian
Freedom is the most valuable thing but if the people are too corrupt there is no point to it

>>126889632
Ultra-Capitalism

basically the best of both worlds. Private property, extremely low taxes (2,4 and 7% brackets) and huge in-group tribal preferences.

It provides room for all the based black guys too so long as they can compete with the native whites.

>>126889875
No one's trying to conflate anything with anything, it's a simple case of sharing an enemy

>>126890524
Ur a libertarian sir.
>>126890796
what is this?
>>126890811
Everyne in the previous thread was advocating for a cycle of fscism to achieve libertarianism and then back to fascism again when needed.

>>126890096
divide what? we arent together. we want nothing to do with you little stormfaggots. you are cancer, just as bad as communists

>>126890904
A return to nature.

We are an animal and animals have habits.

>>126891060
>state of nature
so no society

>>126891214
society and culture is part of nature, self destructing cancerous culture however, isn't

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>>126889632
>fighting side by side with an inferior ideology controlled by Jews
no thanks Schlomo

>>126891327
If we lived in a state of nature, we wud not have any technology or even language

>>126891008

do you have the one with the libertarian stick man trying to appeal to black voters and the guy saying "vote for me and you can have his stuff"

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>>126890998
Pic related:me

>>126891332
Libertarianism is all about limiting mass control. If you fall victim to Jewish control in a libertarian society then it's your fault.

Caesarism.
Libertarian Rexpublic in time of peace.
Dictatorship in time of need.
For dictatorship is intended that the domestic political scene is freezed,no elections,no reforms,only executive orders which will be reverted once the crysis comes to an end.

>>126891395
i'm not gonna argue semantics with you, kike.
i already stated culture, what you probably regard as a human artifice, is part of nature. Take the hint. If you understand nature as something completely separate from man then we are not talking about the same thing.

>>126889632
I posted this in another thread, but somewhat relevant:

I believe Authoritarian Right works best as an enabling factor for Libertarian Right.
Create order from chaos, then create a framework for freedom based on common values and understanding. I suspect the sweet spot is somewhere in the middle between auth-right and lib-right, creating a balance of law and personal freedom.

Libertarians are borderline retards who don't see the free market inevitably leads the kind of corporatism we have now which is causing all our problems. What are you going to do to stop corporations from monopolizing government power? Implement government control's over corporations to prevent it? Libertarianism is nonsensical.

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>>126892249
>>126892166

>>126891777
sounds awfully exploitable

>>126892158
no. government economic involvment bring corporatism not the the other way around.
How corporations are going to monopolize gov power if gov has no power in first place?

>>126892158
>>126892424
please learn what corporatism means

>>126889875

this

NatSoc - no freedom for all, socialist collectivists , pro-government
Liberatrians- capitalism, free market, personal freedom , individualist

TL:DR NatSoc meme ideology which already failed, Libertarian also idealistic but works when moderate

>>126892560
what is wrong with my statement from before?
During fascism(corporatism) wasn't the government pushing the companies? Wasn't the government giving advantages to companies killing the competion,increasing this way political loyalty?

>>126889995
Tell em Uzbro.

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Hey you fucking faggots answer me

>>126889748

>Fascism with some libertarian elements.

Lol, what an absurd statement. Fascism is in itself purely 100% anti-libertarian. It is like saying "I would like to be moderately raped in a free society"

They are literal opposites.

>>126893046
False, Fascism is a broad term now, it's modernized traditionalism, it doesn't require extreme authoritarianism.

>>126893046
natsocs are too stupid to comprehend this.

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>>126891539
>>126891825
>>126892021
>>126892166
>>126892249
>>126892293
>>126892951
>>126893173
>>126893266

>>126889632
Iv never met an Authoritarian who has a philosophical base for their believe. All they say is "if we didn't have a large goverment things wouldnt work" with literally no argument attached. Can someone recommend a book that makes a decent case for the state that doesn't just assume the state is needed by default?

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>>126893266
>>126892166

Natsocs go into the helicopters too.

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>>126893436

>>126889632
absolutist hereditary monarchy

>>126893468
Off the top of my head, Hobbes.

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>>126892424
Look at the US. It started with minimal government, and the government expanded as the corporations grew and lobbied for more government. It's inevitable.

>>126892560
Provide your definitions or fuck off, toothpaste nigger.

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>>126893468
>Iv never met an Authoritarian who has a philosophical base for their believe
t. man who never read any philosophy

>>126894623
>never met an Authoritarian
>must not have read books
Met a book have you?

>>126889875
Nah, they're really not. Anything that's not communism is better than communism.
t. lrg

>>126890811
This.
A violent revolution with fascism to purge the unclean, then monarchy to sort out the country, then secession and everyone that's left does their own thing.

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>>126889632
Libertarian whenever it's possible,
Fascist whenever it's necessary.

>>126891332
What conflict have you won?
We have the American revolution.

>>126893622
Nah. They go their own way, away from us.

>>126894580
Pure. Saved.

>>126893828
+1

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>>126889875
>stormfags
fuck off reddit

>>126892826
Where are these libertarian countries? Because it seems they all failed as well.
Just internally.

>>126898485
the only one has been america

>>126894580
nice

>>126895958
>>126895958
George Lincoln Rockwell is a faggot. Lew Rockwell all the way

>>126898882
America now has
>one of the highest tax rates in the world
>the largest military
>countrywide surveillance with little oversight
>many states you can't own a gun without tons of paperwork
>the highest incarceration in the world
>mandatory ideological education for 12 years at taxpayer expense
and it hasn't gone more libertarian for a long time.
Libertarianism is so easily subverted that it won't last for long, especially when a great deal of your population is urban.

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>>126900202
yea america hasnt been libertarian for a reall long time and were obvs declining.

>>126892826
You clearly are deluded about national socialism.

>flag.
So i dont blame you.

>>126889875
newfags should be banned on sight.

2013 pol best pol

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Brazilian fallout suck my f****** cock you Brazilian f***** piece of s***

>>126900597
See>>126900746

You Brazilian piece of s***

For all those saying fascism is the transition to libertarianism, who decides who rules and when that rule is over?

>>126900824
This is wrong, Libertarianism is the means to fascism for white dominated countries.

>>126901096
exblain

>>126901359
Cut welfare, whites will quickly realize the need to stick together to make up for the lack of social safety net. Nogs will riot when they don't get their checks, probably blame the white man race war ensues, whites of course win.

>>126902157
So what happens after all this?

>>126902276
White ethnostate.

>>126889632
Libertarian.

>>126889632
Libertarians prioritise money at the expense of the people, fascism prioritises "the people" at expensive of the money (depending on the leader).

>>126902867
Libertarianism then? ya still need a government.

>>126889632
Both because the latter can only be achieved after the former cleanses the left from the country. This means book burning, executions, censorship, and education of right wing ideals for many years before libertarians can even hope to have a society.

>>126889632
Libertarian if I'm being ruled.
Fascism if I'm the one who ruling.

>>126898882
Yeah and America sucks

>>126903739
Right, but when does the fascism end and yield to the libertarianism? What stops it from eternal authoritarianism?

>>126903666
Who cares what governance or lack of comes about. If it's all whites I'm sure we'll make the right choice. Just to be clear the Libertarian stage would be pre ethnostate and the chain of events that would trigger the race war.

>>126904022
All of europe and america was all white and look what happened

>>126903549
No money is a false god. The core of Libertarianism is ethics not worship for buisness.

>>126904080
They let women and niggers vote. What do you expect wild happen?

>>126889632
I want libertarian social policy such as legalized drugs and legalized abortions, but also a homogeneous White ethnostate with women's suffrage abolished.

>>126904182
even by the 50s <5% of all blacks voted

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>>126889632

Fascism must precede libertarian society, in order to make it work.

A libertarian system filled with degenerates will never work.

How are we going to convince fascists to give up power, once society's cured? That's going to be the most important question (The Fascist question) to deal with.

>>126889632
Anyone who says fascism is objectively wrong.

>>126904019
Well I don't know, that would be a question for a libertarian.

>>126904022

>If it's all whites I'm sure we'll make the right choice.

Europe was overwhelmingly white in the early 1950's and it led to two world wars. And considering before that they were constantly fighting over clay the idea of a unified front just by skin colour alone is pretty laughable. You'd have better luck trying to unify people under a national identity than a racial one.

>>126904471
>civic nationalism

>>126889875
You cannot have libertarianism until all the leftists and shitskins are purged and stay purged. Thus you can't have actual "libertarianism" at all. You will always need natsoc elements to enforce it.

>>126904471
Jews are not white. Word wars were started by Jews and Masons

>>126904274
Democracy a shit, it's egalitarian not Libertarian.

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When the only arguments against Natsoc are calling it Marxist which anyone with 5 minutes can look it up and destroy the argument.
Fuck r/thedonald cucks le epic snake meme the left and the right are fascists. Freedom for based blacks. Jews should be allowed to exploit the nation because everything but capitalism and complete freedom is bad

Muh freedums though
A fascist state wants you to be free and independent but caring and close with the community, keeping your self free and independent up until the point you harm the community. Just like business free enterprise until your business negatively harms the nation just like modern banks and international corporations do.

>>126904334
>>126904457
U guys, discuss

>>126904142
>The core of Libertarianism is ethics
But what if the child consents?
Why can't I own child slaves to farm my heroin fields?
The core of libertarianism is money. Everything is centered around it, they care little for ethics.

>>126904583

I'm not even advocating for civic nationalism but you gotta understand trying to unify as something as broad as the white race is neigh impossible. Germans, English, Americans, Canadians, Finnish, etc all have very different cultures and values. Skin colour alone doesn't unify shit.

>>126889875
>lolbertarianism
>lending anything credence
What are you smoking?

>>126904852
I wouldnt say money specifically, but hedonism in general. "Let me do watever i want"

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>>126904334
This is essentially the conversation I usually have with my roommate and another friend. I'm a national capitalist and they are libertarian/ancap. Both of them agree that shit would spiral out of control if we suddenly got a libertarian or ancap system.
It's a tough question but at the heart of it society must adopt more traditional values as a whole for it to work.

>>126890747
>some elements
>describes libertarianism entirely

>"guys am still natsoc af ok I am cool, right?"

"

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>>126904852
That's libertinism not Libertarianism. True liberty is a moral principle. Not some do whatever you feel like maaaan bullshit. Know what you're talking about before you spout memes at me.

>>126905243
Natcap is shit

Actually look up the economic policies of the third Reich i can bet it's actually what you think natcap would be.

There are Zero (0) means of production being seized and everyone must work to support the community, if you want life saving welfare. Leeches and niggers are removed from society.

If you are for foriegn or internal elements playing the total free market game then your society will degenerate and the pure capitalistic system will put money and international profits over the people in which case your not a nationalist but an authroian right learning government

>>126905243
>Both of them agree that shit would spiral out of control if we suddenly got a libertarian or ancap system.

Do they think that things aren't already spiraling out of control?

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We can coexist peacefully. Just don't invade the free territory. If you do, our insurance companies will toss you out with the unparalleled efficiency of private enterprise. Once your economy stagnates and you need a wall to keep your people in, don't come crying to us when we don't bother to extradite nazi refugees.

>>126904852

>>THE MEANING OF FREEDOM - Augustus Invictus
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuVqwe3qTUM
>This is also important for you all to hear.

>>126904944
>but you gotta understand trying to unify as something as broad as the white race is neigh impossible
Not entirely true, your family are more important than your cousins which are more important than strangers but your cousins will still be able to integrate with your family over time if necessary since they are still very similar.

Just like within a country people from the same village will be closer than separate villages, and people from the same state will be closer than separate states. It's all a case of how closely they're related.

For example, take Australia for instance. A Brit (and I mean actual Brit not """""Brit""""") can come here, they have the same blood as an Australian so are mostly similar. The first Brit won't really integrate well since he was ingrained from childbirth with a different culture but his children and his children's children would have a very good chance. If you have the blood the only thing left is the culture which can be learned (again, if you have the blood). While another white group, let's say the French, don't have exactly our blood, their blood is still more similar than another groups.
Now of course that's not to say all white countries must become mixed white countries, I believe ethno nationalism for the ethnic homelands but white nationalism for colonies since most of them did have heavy european immigration.

>>126904845
Well, I'm not really an expert on fascist ideas, but if there's one major difference between them and commies, is that fascists are proponents of higher ideals and refuse to look at the world through materialist lenses. For a fascist, nothing is higher than strength, courage, honor, sound state of both mind and body etc.

That, funnily enough reflects throughout recent history as well, because while dictators such as Castro, Stalin, Tito, Corbyn, and the Party men in general always cling onto power like mad men, right-wing dictators tend to be much more pragmatic, for example Pinochet stepped down, and let us not forget that Franco replaced his regime with parliamentary monarchy post-mortem.

Fascists tend to be pragmatic and understand when it is time to give power away in order for their people to prosper. Leftists are only interested in power, and don't give a shit if half their people die of starvation as a result of the power grab.
Fascists and libertarians have that in common, none of us seek power for the sake of power, but to improve our society as best as we can, and quite honestly the reason democracy fails is because it lacks the periods of tyrannical rule that would put society back on track once the system gets weakened enough by the subversive left.

In ideal society, libertarians will give way to fascists that will put society in order, and then surrender power back to libertarians, continuing this trend into eternity and thus creating the only life worth living for humans of our era.

>>126905316
he probably just doesn't want child slaves

>>126905465
>TRUE X isn't like that
Yeah that's great, now explain why libertarians tend to ask for dude weed lmao and think you should be able to sell heroin to elementary schoolers.

>>126893358
NatSocs aren't a real ideology. They don't care about lolbertarianism, fascism, or anything really. They only care about White Nationalism and racism. They hardly even care about eugenics, for if you asked them weather they'd take an intelligent, athletic nigger over a dumb, fat white, they would hesitate to choose the former.

tl;dr nazism is a joke

>>126906304
that's like me pointing at drunken white power skinheads and saying those are real national socialists. Kys idiot.

>>126906304
>Heh yeah nice argument dude but what about these strawmen I've erected? Check and mate ;^)

>>126906695
>>126906734
Except the ones I'm talking about literally run the libertarian party in America.

>>126906887
>literally run the libertarian party in America.
>literally run the libertarian party in America.
>literally run the libertarian party in America.

Kangaroo Jack thinks he knows American politics

I can walk into the street and shout I'm the head of the Republican party and I would have as much credit to that title as those guys do

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>>126906555
You are so fucking wrong it's not funny, im going to bed
Next time there's a /nsg/ up go in and say that exact same line and you'll get btfo.

Every libertarian on /pol/ i have talked too has actually done zero research on fascism and has just parroted what they've heard about le evil statists,history books and getting tricked into thinking it's socialism. Which ironically the name was actually used to attract retard real socialists and redpill them to the party

>>126906887
LOL everyone knows the LP isn't Libertarian. You're pointing at liberteins again.

>>126907272
>Gary Johnson received 4,489,233 total votes and 3.27% of the national vote
So what you're saying is not true co- I mean libertarianism.

>>126889632
We can experiment with libertarianism once theres no nogs. That said certain libertarian policies make sense, no welfare means no subsidies for breeding nonwhites, relaxed gun laws means its easier to prepare for the race war etc.

>>126907529
Yeah. Real Libertarianism isn't even Democratic. The LP has literally been hijacked by communists.

>>126907529
Nice meme.

>the Alt-Right isn't TRUE NatSoc!

I can make a false equivalence as well.

There's a reason many right leaning Libertarians don't vote Libertarian in the US. And again, I'll remind you that you aren't an American and can't have an opinion on our politics.

>>126906304
This guy thinks the government and not supply and demand fuels markets

>>126905316
False, I haven't described Libertarianism entirely, none of those conflict with core values of Fascism either. I still want strong leader and and an aristocratic class, who will inspire and lead people to a greater goal. I'm just taking best of the both ideologies, corporations still wouldn't have freedom to screw people over, it still would be mixed Fascist economy, commies and kikes still would be suppressed, but their books wouldn't be burned, I don't like censorship. it's just relaxed Fascism, not libertarianism.

>>126907402
Musolini robbed my family

>>126907402
You could easily have refuted any of the points I made, but instead you wrote an entire paragraph full of different euphemisms for "you're wrong but I can't say why". Dumb nazi, go shoot up a church of niggers or something.

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>>126889995

I see you are new.

We practice Nice Guy National Socialism here.

https://youtu.be/5DcA1TtaP_c

>>126889632
Anti-communist to whatever degree is necessary.

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>>126907824
What? Alt-right are white nationalists, a lot of them don't like socialism as a hold-back from their libertarian days. In fact from what I've seen they don't even care about economic policy right now because demographics comes first.
If you want to talk natsoc then use the same example, what's the last natsoc party of America?
Looks pretty fucking natsoc to me.

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>>126889632
I think explicit Imperialism is due for a come back in the Post Boomer USA. This is why I think so:

1. Whites will lose peaceful options for running their own communities. They will either have to submit to non white demands, force non whites to give their rights back to white masters or expel/kill non whites in huge numbers.

Option 1 requires no actions but will quickly become miserable for the remaining whites in the USA. Options 2 and 3 require powerful Authoritarian governments that openly preach Elitism.

So will whites choose submission, maybe at first? Those who do will quickly grow to hate that lifestyle. Or, do they choose Imperialist? If they want anything other than an abjectly miserable existence, they will have no choice but to pursue Slave Mastery or Mass Expulsion (which I think is much more likely than Extermination.) Slave Mastery makes more money but is hard to control. Mass Expulsion encourages non whites to self deport or self segregate and Extermination is too expensive to be used very often, not to mention the emotional toll it takes on the normies.

>>126908439
This.

>>126908439
Best answer.

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You fucking bastard should stop whining about doctrines and ideologies and start to think on what really works.

>>126889995
id pick the first any day if the second ment id be living in a society like we have today

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>>126889875
this

Alternating elements of fascism, /NatSoc/, and Libertarian as the times change

>>126908645
A few more thoughts:

In Boomer Lead USA, money was easy to come by and even a high school diploma could get you a decent job. That world is rapidly vanishing.

The Herculean brainwashing campaign to make whites hate themselves depends on the average white having no experience with a majority non white society. Having no experience to draw on, the average white is easily lead to believe anything (((they))) want him to believe about non whites. The world of all white towns and cities all over the USA is almost gone. A few rural areas are still white but they are getting uncensored video about non white violence. The average white is waking up to the reality of coming minority status. This trend will accelerate rapidly barring a major exodus of non whites from the USA.

The faces that teach white guilt are becoming non white. Where before you had lily white do gooders preaching white guilt out of their ivory towers, you now have blacks, Hispanics and Jews celebrating white displacement. They have basically blown their cover of a tolerant peaceful world and switched to "It's our turn now!"

Get your exercise and healthy living in while you can. My guess is that in less than 20 years the strength of the old white world will be tested with violence on a massive scale.

>>126889632
How about paternal autocracy with democratic elements
also I want it to be allowed to own an AK
Europe is pleb tier with weapons

>>126892826
I guess both works if done moderately

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Libertarian national socialism. White ethnostate, free markets but if a business is doing harm to society (like selling hard drugs/prostitutes...) it gets shut down, free speech, gun rights, privacy rights, state/county rights, public works programs, criminalizing usury, social programs for whites who WORK and incentive programs for having white children.

>>126889632

Doesn't matter for at the moment it's most important that these people are wanting and partially working for a system change, reasonably in a non-egalitarian way.

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>>126889632
Almost 700 bootlickers, holy shit.

>>126911113
>gun rights
It should go further than that, I think heavily encouraging men to undergo military training when they leave school would be a big benefit to society.
Not to the degree of mandatory service but enough that most would jump at the chance.

>>126908564
typical natsoc, an intellectual and emotional child unable to defend his shitty, autistic ideology. fuck off

>>126911016
>fascism
>moderate
what?

>>126911113
who defines harm to society?

>all of the retarded libertarians that believe that you can have your retarded ideology without fixing society by using fascism
>all of the retards that believe natsoc is actually socialism, when in reality they called they party like that so they could get the support from the socialist in the country

>>126912024

The leader. As in Hoppean covenants. Literally the only difference is that NatSoc has the blood and soil thing going while using the state to limit business !WHEN IT STARTS TO HARM THE PEOPLE!

>>126889632
Libertarianism for sure. My mind is too free for a fascist dictatorship. Either I'd say the wrong thing or fuck the wrong race and I don't need that kind of restriction on my life.

I want to live in an all white libertarian society. Problem is you can't get there by being a libertarian. This thought is what led me away from libertarianism post Ron Paul. I'm kind of in the Murdoch Murdoch camp. We gotta go dash to restore order and white majority status, and to get rid of Jewish influence. But then freedoms have to be returned to white land owners of good character, just as the found g fathers intended.

If we hadn't let our society slowly slip away from us we wouldn't have to move to an authoritarian right wing government, but there's no other way of going back from here.

>>126893046
You're just too dumb to understand this

>>126912356
>or fuck the wrong race
Yeah you need the rope.

>>126912367
Don't forget to build "NO JEWS" "THIS CANNOT BE REPEALED" into the constitution. Even though it didn't work for Norway(?) it might work if you express it hard enough.

anyone arguing against social libertarianism is fucking stupid (arguing against gay marriage, guns, drugs, etc.) libertarianism will only work if we do not provide anything for the poor. then only people capable of making it in a libertarian society will choose to live in it, while the gibsmedats will go elsewhere.

also i know it's somewhat libertarian to have no military, but fuck that military is important.

so the ideal system is ethnic nationalism libertarianism

>>126912870
Why would I want to live in a country where fags can marry and drugs are rampant?

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>>126913170
>needing a safe space because gays have equal rights and people are allowed to make their own decisions

nixon started the war on drugs to target his political enemies the hippies and blacks. it's been a massive failure, and also drug taxes will provide massive amounts of government money to build wonderful infrastructure and military.

>>126905965
We'll just infiltrate your free society and subvert from within. We won't violate the nap so you'd have to go full fash to remove us.

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>>126889632
Anybody wanna be in my gang? Planning on raping some muslim women... Convert to Christianity or else

>>126911958
I guess it would not be fashism if its done "moderate"

>>126913170
>getting triggered by freedom
what kind of retard are you?

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>>126913936
>muh freedom

>>126889632
Sieg heil 88

>>126913170
Just so you know, fags can marry because the state recognizes their union and their ability to adopt children. If it doesn't, it's not a violation of their freedom to be fags or to live together. And drugs will always be there, regardless of their legal status, grow up.

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Natsoc > everything else

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>>126913585
>drug taxes will provide massive amounts of government money to build wonderful infrastructure and military.

Not to mention that it would weed out those who are too weak to handle drugs.

>>126913936
But dont i have the freedom to wish for a country without drugs and faggs,isnt it part of "muh freedom" to form.my own small fascist state against faggs,niggers and degeneracy in general ,kek that means i am free to exterminate everyon who disagres with me.Lolberts btfo.

>>126909856
We're not free, we're slaves of the mediocre people

>>126889632
Nationalist-Proudhonian coming through.

But seriously, neither. Fascists and Libertarians are both grown up fairytales. The first is prone to fail, the latter will never be implemented.

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>>126889748

>>126913790
Do it

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>>126913585
>wanting a wholesome nation means you want safe spaces
Wew lad. I guess wanting your kids not to be raped means you want safe spaces from muslims too right?

>it's been a massive failure
Because they're refusing to go to the lengths necessary and because the government has no incentive to win it, the longer it goes on the longer they get paid.

>and also drug taxes will provide massive amounts of government money to build wonderful infrastructure and military.
Or we could remove them and get a boost to our economy that way, it'd also reduce the degenerate filth that infests our countries.

But nah, if the child consents you need to be allowed to sell them heroin amiright.

>>126915346
>because the state recognizes their union and their ability to adopt children
Which is a fucking huge mistake, especially the adoption part.
Personally I don't care if fags live together, just keep it in private, I draw the line at marriage since it's for a man and a woman for the purposes of child raising (something fags can't do).

>And drugs will always be there, regardless of their legal status, grow up.
>Terrorism will always be a part of living in a big city, grow up.

>>126889632
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13029149
Libertarians are either morons or complete fucking assholes. Fascism is the truth and the light.

>>126915710
typical white nigger, too stupid to understand basics concepts like freedom. listen slavnigger, you being able to rape and kill anyone you want isnt freedom, because youre infringing on other peoples freedoms. youre violating their nap. is yourself getting raped and murdered fall under your definition of freedom? no? THEN WHY THE FUCK WOULD IT BE FOR ANYONE ELSE?

>>126889632
To have a libertarian utopia we first need to get rid off the Jew and the Muslim.

>>126909856
That's because you're stupid.

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>>126889875
Good goy. The inbred rats now have massive community centers that are paid for largely by tax dollars (grants, free security, property tax waiver, tax refunds) and control America competely from top to bottom.

Lolbertarianism is the American path to Jewish communism. Did you guys not pay attention to Bernie Sanders? This whole 'muh individual' garbage absolutely destroyed the USA.

>>126920742
> especially the adoption part.
The state is the entity that forces orphanages to let fags adopt children.

> >Terrorism will always be a part of living in a big city, grow up.
> terrorism is a victimless crime

>>126922423
and soon your 100,000,000 non-whites will vote in a Jewish communist that will take all your shit. Perhaps they'll triple your nigger population to 150,000,000 first like they have since the 60's with welfare, etc.

Most American whites are female and most American white men are old. They will go community to community. The government won't let the information get out. Half of you will be in camps before the rest of you know what happened.

>>126922423
Sanders is a progressive, collectivist, socialist faggot. He's the exact opposite of "muh individual".

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>>126922423
>before lolbertarian individualism
90% white country
95% white elite
87% went to church
90% upper limit on tax
America is the envy of the world

>after 50 years of lolbertarian individualism
53% white country
~20% white elite maximum
30% go to church
40% upper limit on tax for goys, far lower for kikes that control your senate/congress and write in whatever rules they wish
America is justifiable hated by every European that lives outside its borders for actively destroying their races, in many cases they even encourage their Jewish ruling class to assfuck their brothers in Europe out of spite.


Jewish lolbertarianism destroyed America in two generations. It's not going to be fixed it's permanently fucked. No thanks.

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>>126923126
Lolbertarianism is only supported by 10% of the population in even lolberty polls. Virtually no working man supports this garbage and it's the only reason Bernie Sanders (a Jewish communist elector that lived on a kibbutz in Israel) almost won the election and why Jewish communists will eventually assrape the American white man into camps.

Any halfway intelligent person sees that individuals cannot compete with groups and that your government is controlled top to bottom by a highly organized tribe that invented and promotes this lolbertarian garbage.

If you didn't have this culture of decadence and individualism you wouldn't have 20,000,000 illegals and surely wouldn't have 45,000,000 niggers.

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>>126923641
>>126923126
Not to mention this culture of annihilation/individualism white American have has allowed their Jewish ruling class to take over and seriously harm the Europeans living outside of America.

You should see the shit your kikes push on my kids in the morning. I can't do anything about it because white Americans are absolute cowards that will go extinct before they push back. Most of you shit on people like Duke and Spencer, you want America to fall because the kikes have put you in a shitty ass situation and turned most of you into monsters.

>>126923238
>a fucking leaf pontificating about america
>"muh jews!"

No, you're right. The country definitely wasn't founded on the idea that individualism is key and we definitely didn't draft our entire governmental system around the idea of individual rights from the fucking beginning. It's not like the founding fathers were informed by a revolution that rose because of undue authoritarian control.

>>126889632
How about a primarily libertarian state where we periodically elect our fascists into power and also limit the scope of their authority?

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>>126924126
I could point out how affirmative action was a Jewish creation in both Canada and in the USA, how they were the driving force behind opening our borders, how the lawsuits that allowed near unrestricted abortion in our countries were both lead by kikes or hell I could lay out the thousands of hooked noses behind the drug/porn/tranny degeneracy they target our children with.. etc. etc.

They even took over your military recently, the only institution that was apparently run by goyim. You never stopped to think why the most tribal people to have ever existed invented and push this filth?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_L._Goldfein

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>>126923238

>before freemasonic revolutions
100% white country
100% white elite under the king under God.
even more went to church perhaps?
two tier taxing system for poor and rich commoners. less than 1% tax rate on income on lower bracket in times of peace.

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>>126889632
Italian Fascism

NatSoc is bluepilled

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>>126924424
Who controls, funds, and invented freemasonry? What is freemasonry all about? Rebuilding the Jewish temple. Nobody denies this and they talk about this openly.

Remove the kike remove the problem. They have destroyed America and will destroy the rest of us sooner than later if we don't push back hard.

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>>126905316
Well what's your problem with those elements? Free speech, lower taxes, less government, and isolationist foreign policy all sound pretty good to me.

>>126889632
Libertarian in public, Fascist in private.

>>126889748
libertarianism with some fascist elements

>>126923641
>"muh degeneracy"
>"muh individualist garbage"
>"MUH JEWWWWWWS!|

You're premise is flawed. It's irrelevant how many black people there are, but how well they integrate into society. The degeneracy you speak of, in black sommunities for instance, has spiked in the last 50-60 years. The vast majority of black communities have been under the thumb of the democratic party (you know, the ones who are collectivists and support socialism) since then. The problem with niggers isn't ALL black people's fault. It's also the fault of collectivists and the less collectivists there are in the world, the better a place it will be.

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>>126924701
Free speech yet Americans will get fired or worse if they mention half of their Supreme court is Jewish or that for the last 30 years the treasury and fed have been jewified from top to bottom with even oversight positions off limits to American whites. Americas free speech allows them to shit on whatever group their Jewish ruling class doesn't like at the moment.

Lower taxes yet they get virtually nothing for these taxes.The inbreds that run America love nothing more than scimming 30% of your income and giving you nothing in return.

Less government yet Regan exploded the government service by raw numbers and sparked the kike nepotism wave inside it.

OK.

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>>126924356
everytime i see this picture i get angry. imagine what the founding fathers would have said if they'd see how their vision turned out. they must be rolling over in their graves.

they dont look human, yet they control all relevant aspects of america.

americans, please for the love of fucking god KILL THESE PARASITES!!!!!!

>>126922628
>The state is the entity that forces orphanages to let fags adopt children.
But you're suggesting the orphanages should be allowed to let fags adopt, they shouldn't.

>> terrorism is a victimless crime
>drug addiction is a victimless crime
The 5 year old WANTED to buy drugs, he's not a victim he WANTED to ruin his life!

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>>126925157
Americans are cowards. Look at this shit >>126925039

It's staring them right in the face. Kikes openly brag (even the Israeli PM) that they control America from top to bottom. They brag that they murdered tens of millions of Christians and that 98% of Americans don't know about it.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

>>126924356
You mean the same affirmative action that came about because of collectivist, anti-individualist, neo-marxist ideology?

I didn't appreciate the fundamentalists clutching pearls while I was growing up, I don't appreciate you doing it now.

>>126889632
Libertarianism is for free markets and limited state intervention (but there cannot be a state if a capitalist free market is to operate smoothly). It is, by definition, globalist.
You cannot be fascist if you tacitly promote the breakdown of collectivism.

>>126925039
You know that 7/8 of Clintons largest funders were kikes right? That they absolutely control both parties from top to bottom?

>>126924558
NatSoc was built off Italian Fascism.

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>>126908389
>nice guy
>NatSoc

Pick one, aus-tistic faggot.

>>126925039
>MUH JEWWWWWWS!
Do you really expect to be taken seriously when you refuse to even address the JQ?

>The problem with niggers isn't ALL black people's fault. It's also the fault of collectivists and the less collectivists there are in the world, the better a place it will be.
I didn't realize the democratic plantation (they're the real racists you know) are a thing in Africa.

>>126889632
libertarian reporting

>>126925422
>Americans are cowards
>bill C-16 passes while leaf sits on his fat ass and complains like a bitch on the internet
>"but muh jews!"

You know what's staring you in the face? The fact that there is immediately important shit going down and your fucking country is going down with it and yet here you are talking about conspiracies which may or not hold weight. If the jews really do control everything, they're fucking laughing at how inactive and impotent you are right now because you're too busy jerking your dick over a political ideology that died 80 years ago.

You want to make a NatSoc government? Fine. Keep it in canada. The U.S. is freedom territory.

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>>126925436
You don't get it. Your kikes invented and pushed lolbertaranism to divide and conquer. It's the American path to Jewish communism because no hard working white man has or will ever support this shit. It's to keep you not looking past your own nose while they flood you with 100,000,000+ shitskins and rot out every bit of culture you have.

Ever heard "I'm a fiscal conservative but socially liberal" .. Invented and pushed by lolbertarian kikes with their $10,000,000 urban community centers funded largely by taxpayers and off limits to goyim. Pushed by people that drill family values and tribalism into their kids from day one.

>>126912605
>Yeah you need the rope.

Case in point. Also, I find it funny how people like you will cry foul when Antifa goes and smashes your head with a bike lock, yet that's exactly how you plan on treating others if you got in power.

Fuck fascism, I'm extremist for freedom.

>>126925387
>The 5 year old WANTED to buy drugs, he's not a victim he WANTED to ruin his life!
His parents LET the 5 year old buy drugs. Even if it happens by accident, selling drugs to kids is considered wrongdoing by most, and the parents will be able to sue the shop and receive compensation, so the owner won't be eager to do it.

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>>126925111
>Free speech yet Americans will get fired or worse if they mention the kikes
So your solution to the kikes suppressing free speech, screwing us economically and trying to destroy the white race is the abolishment of free trade and free speech and freedom altogether?

Benjamin Franklin and others among the founding fathers recognized the threat of the Jew and wanted to banish them from their newly founded land, but apparently got outvoted. I'm a classical libertarian; I have the same vision they had. I know that the America we have today is not what the founders intended because the kikes have steered it away from that goal of liberty and turned it into a giant ATM for themselves.

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I tell people I'm a libertarian but I'm actually a fascist.

>>126926031
I fully recognize that the whole Jewish conspiracy holds some water and I don't generally support Israel. But NatSocs need to get it through their thick skulls that authoritarianism is a dead end. It always has been.

>"But liberty caused degeneracy and jews"

Terrible argument. Liberty also fueled the greatest economic powerhouse the world has ever known. The U.S. is the prime stabilizer of the world and it was founded on libertarian ideas. even in this time, where "muh degeneracy" is running rampant, you'll notice the U.S. is the one that has actually resisted terrible, stupid policies like mass immigration.

Collectivism, socialism, communism all of it is a pile of fucking garbage as far as I'm concerned. the only reason I tolerate NatSocs is because I believe in freedom of speech (another thing brought to you by libertarian ideas).

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>>126926091
Freedom? Sure you can shit on whatever group your Jewish ruling class hates at the moment but i've been finger raped by your subhuman nigger TSA agents and i've seen shitloads of Americans lose their jobs or worse for simply mentioning as benign and truthful as this. You don't get it burg. You've hit the demographic tipping point. 5/8 babies are born to non-Europeans and Trump isn't going to do anything to stop your disenfranchisement.

They're going to take all your shit and give it to the niggers like they started to do in the 1960's. Your black population has tripled since then and kikes openly talk about America with 150,000,000 Africans. It's coming.

Don't ever forget that Jew Lenin and Jew Trotsky managed to overthrow the Tzar in 80% Russian, Russia. You're 53% European and crashing rapidly.

>>126926581
Look at what you're fucking saying you stupid nigger, you're advocating for children to be able to buy drugs.

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>>126926590
My solution doesn't involve subhuman apes from mexishit. You've always been doomed and will be forever doomed to subjugation.

This is about the European races Americas Jewish ruling class is actively trying to destroy. We can end this destruction and take back our countries with limited effort, but it needs to start in America. The heart of Jewry.

>>126926550
People cry foul because of the hypocrisy and the fact it was a peaceful protest, if it's legal for both sides to do it then let there be war.
And you do deserve the rope like all traitors, including race traitors.

>>126926425
>"Trust me goy, it's for your best interest that you fall in line and join the authoritarians. It's not like this is what has caused most of these problems to begin with"

No, the only devide and conquer tactic here is you NatSoc faggots larping as nazis. You're almost as bad as the fucking communists and that's only because you comprise a tiny percentage of the total population. I have no doubts that NatSocs, if they keep growing, will become just as violent and wrong as antifa.

>>126889632
If you haven't grown out of libertarianism by your late 20s you most likely have a serious mental defect

All fascists should be killed

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>>126927063
I'm an American who travels a lot and happens to be currently in Mexico. And yes, it is a shit hole - electing nothing but leftist presidents for 50 years will do that to a country.

>>126926873
I'm saying that it won't fucking happen unless his parents are complete degenerate trash, and the owner of the shop is extremely bored of living without being sued.
Why, do you think an authoritarian state will ensure that no kid will ever buy drugs from some shady crack dealer?

>>126926779
>Gets "finger raped" by TSA
>complains about overbearing control over the livelihoods of Americans
>Argues FOR authoritarianism
>"It's non-whites, tho!"

Fucking retarded. I'm starting to think the only evil jew here is you.

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>>126927128
National Socialism was invented to stop Jewish Communism from destroying Europe. Fucking idiot. I hate people like you more than any other, useful mongrel American idiots destined to extinction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s

Adolf Hitler's Warning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program#The_25-point_Program_of_the_NSDAP

25 point plan

>>126926704
>authoritarianism is a dead end
It seems to be the only way anything's ever fixed. Do you tell your kid to brush his fucking teeth or do you respect his rights to not do so?

>>126927263
nice arguments. Kill yourself nip.

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>>126927492
>>126927128
>National Socialism was invented to stop Jewish Communism from destroying Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19

See something in common with the leadership? What about with the three people held chiefly responsible for this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

NKVD head (((Gengrikh Yagoda))), Stalins right hand (((Lazar Kaganovich))), and Minister Vyacheslav Molotov, yeah that molotov, who wasn't Jewish but sure enough was married to a very prominent kike. I can thank the ukes out west for making our teachers teach us this shit.

>>126926704
Also
>you'll notice the U.S. is the one that has actually resisted terrible, stupid policies like mass immigration.
And what was it Trump ran on again?
Build the wall? Why would he need a wall? That's something you use to stop mass immigration.

>>126927531
A father tells his kid to brush his fucking teeth because dad knows what's best for him.
Can you really trust big bro politicians and government to know what's best for you?

>>126927492
>"destined to extinction"

hahahaha better leafs than you have tried to end the US and the ideas of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Collectivist fuckwits need not apply. We judge people based on thier individual merit here, not fucking quotes or skull shape. THAT'S what made america the best for so long; individual merit coupled with REAL equal opportunity. NatSocs blame everyone but themselves, just like all collectivists, which is why they're such a failure.

>>126889995
Libertarians support open borders,

You ideology will never happen because you import people that vote against you, ensuring you will never have a majority.

Libertarianism is the adolescent stage of fascism.

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>>126927458
Jewish degenerate lolbertarianism individualism and their strangehold over America is the reason you have the TSA you fool.

>>126927391
Ok so his parents are degenerate trash, the shop owner is allowed to do whatever he wants because that's his freedom to do so.
Why do you support the sale of heroin to 5 year olds?

>that no kid
>since you can't stop every kid we need to make it legal for kids to buy crack, you can't stop it haha so why not just legalize it

>>126928020
That's called anarchy. If you think libertarianism is just lawlessness then you are one yuge dumb fuck.

>>126926425
Kikes did not invent libertarianism, and the rest of your post is just blatant misunderstandings and strawmans. How about you attempt to read into the ideology before you sporadically throw logical fallacies at it?

>>126907402
You're the NatSoc equivalent to what he was saying.

>>126926704
>US is the prime stabilizer of the world
TOP.FUCKING.KEK. Just look at the ME dude. Stable my ass.
>US has resisted terrible, stupid policies
holy shit, are you serious? Every single policy enacted after Reconstruction has served to try and win out in what policy can be the most liberal as possible. Giving blacks the vote, giving women votes, civil rights, amnesty laws, so forth and so on. The Constitution is fine if it was upheld by like-minded people but look where the fuck its gotten us.

>>126928265
You support open borders, whos the dumb fuck that will never succeed?

Libertarianism, like communism has never beed tried right?

Gas yourself faggot.

>>126927714
No, a wall is something you use to stop illegal immigration. Mass immigration is when you legally let immigrants in en masse,

And even if you were right, putting up a wall to stop it would fucking constitute resisting, wouldn't it?

>>126927868
The current ones? No.
Future ones? Possibly, it depends on the main guy in charge.
I'd trust Mussolini over a public vote any day.

Besides, it's easier to kill a single corrupt dictator than 10,000 government cunts so he has a pretty good reason to do his job.

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>>126927967
Obvious bait. Lolbertarian individualism (America was highly collectivist until the 1960's) has absolutely destroyed the white American and their nation, permanently most likely.

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>>126928020
Look at pic related. This guy is what libertarianism is based off of, not the fucking sorry-ass weedbro Gary Johnson who wanted a carbon tax.

Do you really think that George Washington would support open borders?

>>126928020
Now here we get into actually meat of discussion on political ideology. How far can one move outside of their accepted label to adapt to the chaos of the world?

I personally thing you should move, temporarily, as far as you have to, but understand that you need to go back afterwards.

>>126928509
their open borders policies were a massive fucking mistake.

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>>126928280
6/8 of the mises founders were kikes. Kikes invented modern American lolbertarianism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises

The most tribal group on the planet wants Americans to be more individualistic and degenerate. I wonder why they preach the complete opposite of what they practice.

It's the Jews stupid.

>>126928387
I want the fucking wall. Don't put words in my mouth.

>>126928443
>illegal immigration
Which was in mass which is why he needs a wall, besides it's basically considered legal immigration anyway.
Between 1/10 and 1/35 of your country are there illegally, let that sink in then tell me it isn't mass immigration again.

>And even if you were right, putting up a wall to stop it would fucking constitute resisting, wouldn't it?
Does cleaning the blood out of your kids hair after a suicide bombing constitute resisting? It seems a bit late to me.

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>>126928796
>>126928280
When looking at this and society in general we must remember they are 1-2% of the population. Only when looking at the sheer odds can we understand the level of subversion and nepotism.

>One Jew.. 1:50
>Two Jews in row.. 1:2500
>Three Jews in a row.. 1:125,000
>Four Jews in a row.. 1:6,250,000
>Five Jews in a row.. 1:312,500,000
>Six Jews in a row.. 1:15,625,000,000
>Seven Jews in a row.. 1:781,250,000,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion

>>126928704
You mean the guy who'd get called a white supremacist if he ran for office today?

>>126928509
Explain how a country with a bill of rights and massive emphasis on individual determination baked into the founding documents was "highly collectivist"? You can't put emphasis on individual rights and freedoms and group rights and freedoms at the same time. They're polar opposite ideas.

>>126929042
Anyone who's not a wheelchair bound, transexual faggot would get called a white supremacist if they ran for office today.

The differences stand with the ideologies themselves.
Libertarian is every man for himself. Believes that his own individual supremacy will stand for itself, and every man should be capable of fending for himself.
Fascism is based in the idea that the idea of perfection and moral superiority must be enforced on the whole. Degeneracy must be destroyed as it is a cancer that weakens the whole.

>>126929042
Now you're starting to get my point.

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>>126889632
SAGE

>>126929068
Sure you can, let the churchs/communities handle most of it like they did for 250 years. America was highly collectivist until the 1960's out of pure necessity.

National Socialism.

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>>126927098
>People cry foul because of the hypocrisy and the fact it was a peaceful protest, if it's legal for both sides to do it then let there be war.

More than likely it'll be Antifa vs Fascists, but that's it. It'll be seen by the public as gang wars and it'll be subdued by riot police. Then you can all sort out your shit in prison :)

>And you do deserve the rope like all traitors, including race traitors.

LOL yeah I'm so afraid of LARPers and their stupid little DOTR fantasies. This is why fascism fails and always has failed.

>>126929477
>It'll be seen by the public as gang wars and it'll be subdued by riot police
I think you mean it'll be seen by the public as gang wars and the right-wingers will be subdued by riot police.

>This is why fascism fails and always has failed.
Hanging traitors is why fascism fails? Shit, just betray my shit up senpai.

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>>126929068
Again your bill of rights doesn't prevent your ADL mafia from destroying your career/worse in the USA. Look at all the people who go missing/die because they investigate your (((FBI))) (this is a good redpill go on wikipedia and follow seniority from the top down.. both oversight positions are even kikes) or (((CIA))).

Americans are free to fight among each other sure, but anything that can change the status quo or shines light on the satanic cult that runs your country isn't tolerated whatsoever.

>>126908192
The question about the genius nigger is a pointless one with no bearing on the real world. If it was one dude, I wouldn't give a shit.
But it's never 1, it disrupts society, encourages more of the shitty ones and his descendants will regress to the mean anyway.
But sure, if niggers had an average iq of 140, invented everything, and could run a 100 miles without wearing out they'd be better than whites.

Does that make you happy? Is it simple enough for you to stop making threads this moronic hypothetical?

>>126929068
You see, the problem is almost noone views "freedom" quite like our founders did. In their days, criticizing a king would get your head lopped off, Hence the first amendment in the Bill of Rights. When they banned together and formed the first Continental Congress, it was not as one, it was together. When they ratified the Declaration, they pledged to EACH OTHER their lives and sacred honor. Not to themselves for "muh freedums" not "muh indivualism", it was to the GROUP. As Ben Franklin said "If we do not hang together, we shall all hang separately." Freedom, as they understood it was freedom to try, not for wanton hedonism or freedom to do whatever the hell you want, who gives a shit. As far as the state goes, it took a village. There's a reason it was modeled after the Roman Republic. Washington himself refused the crown mainly on semantics.

>>126924558
>you can prove any point if you cherry-pick examples accordingly

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>>126929941
Americans can't even quote Jewish sources talking about Jewish influence in America without feeling the full wrath of the kikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo

>>126893325
>Fascism is a broad term now,
It's not. Fascism was what the italians did. That's it, no neo-anything bullshit
>it's modernized traditionalism
Contradiction.

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>>126929941
>>126930191
You swapped one benevolent king with a cult of millions of moloch/satan worshipers.

>>126906555
>NatSocs
>White nationalism

Nice meme

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>>126930394
Hitler was a white nationalist in a sense. He wanted to create a EU tier bloc after the war that would dominated by Germany/UK and would rule the world for 1,000 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukwA--tIokg

Hitler Teaching What Is Europe

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>>126889632
So long as there are commies, we can be best buddies

>>126929941
>as they understood it was freedom to try, not for wanton hedonism or freedom to do whatever the hell you want, who gives a shit.
Makes sense, considering that they had laws agains't faggotry

>>126889995
>Uzbekistan
Her name was Ebba Åkerlund

>>126929736
And this is a battle that's currently being fought in the U.S. What do you think the Seth Rich investigation was? Blows are being thrown to try to reclaim the freedoms that the U.S. requires to function properly.

>>126929941
Mutual agreement and action is not collectivism. The fact that the founding fathers came tegether and explicitly stated that they needed to do so at that time proves the point that they we're operating as individuals who saw a need for collective action to overthrow authoritarian rule. Individuals became part of society because society is mutually beneficial to be in, not for the groups in it, but for the individuals in it. Society is made by individuals, it's run by individuals, it's comprised of individuals and to put any sort of group interests or rights over individual rights is not just ethically wrong, it's logically wrong.

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>>126889748
>>126924894
>>126926683
OC for you lovely lads.

>>126930552
White and nationalism contradictory terms.

White is not a ethnicity, therefore a white nationalism cannot exist

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>>126930835
Seth Rich is a kike you fool. You're infested from top to bottom, and it's the reason his kike mother got her kike PR guy to shut all of you down and destroy Hannitys career. What a joke.

>>126924356
hey you forgot to put Trump in your pic

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>>126930980
Outside of mongrel Brazil white people == full blooded european people.

>>126930955
>not doing this
It's easier for normies to brush off libertarianism than fascism. You don't tell normies you're a fascist do you?

>>126930835
If a group of individuals come together for a common purpose, that is collectivism. Also, it wasn't just come together and then after the Revolution we'll just all do our own thing. It was never about the individual. Fuck the individual. All the founders wanted was a country where the Crown didn't quarter soldiers in their houses, tax them without representation (like they gave to their other colonies), among other things. It was never about individualism. That's a sham. Freedom does not equal individualsim. The Freedom the founders wanted was the kind of freedom that allowed you to hold weapons incase the new government tried the same shit King George tried. Not so you could do whatever the hell you want.

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>>126889632
>Fascism
Should've said Nazism goddammit, do you know how many types are Fascism there are?

>>126889995
it can't be that tyrannical if it cares enough about the people to enforce racial purity

>>126931051
Jesus you're retarded. This is why people don't take NatSoc's seriously. You live in your little fantasyland, just like the SJWs.

The "PR guy" is a DNC agent, the same DNC that's been embroiled in incredible amounts of corruption and malfeasance. The fact that you have to tie everything to the jews means you've lost the plot OR you're a shitty fucking baitposter.

Either way it's fine because It's nice to be able to logically pick apart stupid ideas for the benefit of those reading.

>>126931051
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-1.652576

>>126928704
No, he would be a classical liberal. He even owned slaves

>>126920143
>adults making their own decisions to take light drugs = child heroin addicts

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>>126931237
No, because I'm an actual libertarian.

>>126931155
Why are you stating the obvious?

>>126931677
Jeeze, embarrassing.

>>126889748
Your christian music is amazing, familia.

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>>126931812
Not particularly. At least I don't have to hide behind a lie, like a faggot.

>>126889875
>>126889875

Here ye, here ye

>>126931649
>adults
>light drugs
Neither of these are ever specified.

>>126928796
American lolbertarian party is shit
Adam smith is the true way

>>126929707
>I think you mean it'll be seen by the public as gang wars and the right-wingers will be subdued by riot police.

Nah riot police don't discriminate. They round up everyone and sort that shit out later. Now would right wingers fire on police? That would be a game changer right there and NOT in your favor as you just gave them permission to use live ammunition as well.

>Hanging traitors is why fascism fails? Shit, just betray my shit up senpai.

Yep because it turns people off. It's like "hey you want to be a fascist and hang people who disagree with you?"... the best you get are some weak 4chan LARPers, while most of the public tells you to go fuck sand. People aren't stupid, they know that they can just as easily end up being traitors.

>>126931445
No it's not you, fuckwit.

>Collectivism: the practice or principle of giving a group priority over each individual in it.

Voluntary collective action is not collectivism. Collectivism is an ideology, not an action. Learn the difference.

>The Freedom the founders wanted was the kind of freedom that allowed you to hold weapons incase the new government tried the same shit King George tried. Not so you could do whatever the hell you want.

I'm not advocating for doing what ever you want. That's as unreasonable as fascism. I'm advocating for only having a government big enough to carry out only the most vital functions, leaving the rest to the free market and allowing people to live as they please as long as they aren't violating the rights or property of others. Libertarianism =/= anarchy,

>>126931927
>Libertarian male hugs his child slave.jpg
And yes, everything that you aren't allowed to say publicly is clearly bad.
Like the holocaust didn't happen.

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>>126931927
>libertarian
>pedoshit
Of course.

>>126932143
>Nah riot police don't discriminate.
The rest of the police do so why wouldn't riot police?

>Now would right wingers fire on police?
Not likely, right wingers tend to respect law enforcement.

>Yep because it turns people off.
I know it's not how you mean it but that's the whole idea. If you're a traitor you die, people don't want to die so there'll be less traitors.