Germanons, Did your family talk about WWII? were they favorable

Yeah my grandpa was a huge national socialist, he even joined the Socialist Reich Party after the war.

>>126867740
Based Grandpa

>>126867588
not german, lithuanian

>grandmother recalls the nazi liberation, kicking out the commies
>happiest time of her life, family was set to be killed due to being teachers/police
>soviets return
>great-grandparents all either die in the gulag, or in one case, is executed in the streets

>>126867740
I know that this has to be a huge amount of Germans but when this is asked anywhere else its deny deny deny.

My grandpa died three months ago.
He would tell me stories about how the commie teachers would treat him in school and punish him for the smallest reason, about how the batshit insane commie women would consider it treason if you misspell the name of the leader or say the wrong thing on accident.

>>126867588

Croat diaspora here.

My dad's best man volunteered for the Waffen SS by age 17, he went all the way deep into Russia but survived it. He drove a flax truck within a mechanized brigade.

He died some 10 years ago; until his death, he hated the jews. His wife burned his SS uniform after the war, even though she also loved it.

>>126867588
We like to call WWII the "family feud".

Grandpa is the easiest case. He was an allied pilot doing bombing runs on Berlin.

Grandmother was young during the war. Grandpa was the one bombing her town. Met eventually and took Grandma back stateside.

Grandma's father was a filthy German Communist.

Great Aunt was all about that 3rd Reich. Got raped by Russian soliders. Now is a drunk lush awaiting 4th Reich.

Great Great Uncle was drafted into the final days of the war at the ripe old age of 13. Thankfully he was captured by the British and told to go home in full Nazi regalia where his parents were crying that he'd been sent off to die.

>>126868178
So he hated the Commies, was he too young for the war?
>>126867908
ouch, how did your grandmother survive?

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>>126868068
That's just the spineless faggot cucks. My grandpa never denied anything, and never changed his views. He always talked about how international finance jewry and the Anglos plunged us into the world wars. There is generally no sense of shame for the past at all in my family; I remember my grandma oftentimes singing old Hitler Youth songs, too. The same applied to our family's relatives and close friends from before the war; none of them were ever brainwashed/apologetic.

I have honestly no idea why so many Germans are so cucked.

>>126868291
I always thought it was bs that they got rid of those things, soldiers should have been allowed to be buried in them.
>>126868323
wow that's nuts, was your great aunt involved with the party back then?

>>126868641
Wish I could have a talk with my German American grandpa and your German grandpa. He died before I took the red pill, but I always wondered what it was like bombing the hell out of your own people. It's saddening as fuck in retrospect.

>>126868928
>was your great aunt involved with the party back then?

Eh, as much as a regular civilian in Germany was involved with the party. She wasn't part of the Government or anything.

>>126868641
Isn't your education very guilt heavy with it? and that's interesting was your grandpa in the party back then? It's stupid that we never hear this side of things

>>126868557
wermacht helped evacuate many civilians who helped them, they knew that they would be first to be targeted.

great-grandparents got caught when trying to get other relatives out of eastern lithuania,

grandmother was able to be among the civilians evacuated because her parents offered to house several german soldiers, who became friends until their deaths. she went west into germany with retreating soldiers, was taken in by relatives of the soldiers.

rationing was in place at the time, with so little to eat, they still gave her more food than themselves, since she was younger and weaker than they. when she told me about this it was the first time i ever saw her crying, almost completely broke down when recalling it to me.

pretty safe to say that that family ended up dead, but because of them, i have life.

>>126869169
ah i see

>>126868641
>I have honestly no idea why so many Germans are so cucked.

obedience?

>>126869200
Yeah our education is pretty bad, although it also depends on the individual teacher.

Grandpa wasn't in the NSDAP; he finished his time in the Hitler Youth during the war, joined the paratroopers and was sent to the Eastern Front in 1944. He did join the Socialist Reich Party after the war, which was pretty much the NSDAP's successor party, and the only party to be banned in postwar occupied Germany along with the KPD.

>>126867588
>Germanons, Did your family talk about WWII?
Yes.
>were they favorable to the nazis?
No, on my mother's side my grandfather was 18 in 1945 and had to dig trenches and hated it. My grandma was 17 and was in the BDM and spoke trivial stuff about it. My father's father was a staunch monarchist until his final days and hated Hitler to the point of getting in trouble with the Gestapo.

> did they deny their involvements?
No, they just told us what they did during the war and after.

> did they keep anything from that time?
Yes, my father's father had a huge treasure chest of medals he won during shooting competitions and all kinds of money and coins from before and during the 3rd reich.

>>126869051
>I always wondered what it was like bombing

Terrifying apparently. Huge casualties on the British side; approaching 50%.

>>126869727
It's a wonder he survived, did he ever talk about his time in the east? also I didn't even know about those parties
>>126869757
makes sense, and monarchist? did he have any ties to the pre-Nazi government?

>>126870323
He told me some stuff, like how they had to wait in ditches for approaching Soviet tanks before shooting them with Panzerfausts, or how the commander of his squad cut a Soviet soldier's throat with his knife and how he still remembers the horrible gurgling sound of the guy expiring. In 1945 his squad blew up two trucks with sleeping Soviets in them, and by the end of the war they were defending a bunch of lakes in Brandenburg until the surrender.

>>126867588

my family fled to austria when shit went wrong

my dad was very young during WW2 (im an oldfag) so he didnt fight but he lost 80% of his family cause Hitler doesn't know how to war

>>126867588

some members of my family were in the wehrmacht, nothing more though. One was captured in stalingrad, kept as POW in sibera and died 2 years after coming home. The other one i know of was wounded and after that he was some kind of customs officer for the rest of the war.

My grandpa doesnt like the nazis, in 1945 he was ten and they wanted him to join the volkssturm, he hid in the woods until the war was over. He doesnt like talking about it.

My family kept some stuff, but nothing that would interest people here

>>126867908
Oh do I have a story about Lithuania told to me by my friend:

>Be in small fishing village (less than 3500 people we'll say)
>There's a Jewish side and a Catholic side
>Both places have spotlights (this will come into play later)
>WWII happens
>Nazi Germany takes Lithuania
>Friends Grandpa (FG for the rest of this) is approx 12 years old
>Both sections of the village are poor
>Germans treat the Lithuanians with kindness
>Eastern Front collapses, Germans bug out
>Soviet Bombing raids start happening to destroy the retreating Germans
>During this time, a no light curfew is de facto made
>Both the synagogues and churches had spotlights
>FG is at church (only candlelight)
>All is calm
>Suddenly a bright light is lit on their church (The Soviets gave better treatment to those who helped them supposedly)
>A 250kg bomb with a delayed fuse is dropped
>FG is at COMMUNION
>Priest literally throws FG away from the bomb
>100+ people are killed
>FG is one of THREE survivors (FG's parents didn't attend for some reason, his uncle brought him to church)
>Guess who shown the spotlights on the Catholic Church
>THAT'S RIGHT, THOSE DAMN KIKES
>Catholics and Jews had lived in peace for decades
>FG, a 12 year old, takes his fathers rifle and... culturally enriches the Jews (He Friend never said he killed, but implied he committed some heinous acts against them and kills them)

FG never attended church in his life due to this. He kept his faith, but could never bring himself to go to church.

PS, apparently this wasn't an isolated incident and it happened all over Lithuania.

>>126867588
My pop was an AA gunner shooting down Japs in Darwin. I vaguely remember him saying something about driving a tank but I was super young at the time. Wish I had more time to talk to him ;_;

>>126868641
>My grandpa never denied anything, and never changed his views.
What level of education did your grandpa have?

>>126869757
>My father's father was a staunch monarchist until his final days and hated Hitler to the point of getting in trouble with the Gestapo.

Absolutely based as fuck.

Four of my great-uncles served in the Waffeen-SS (they were Germans from Romania and taken into the army mandatory). One of them starved to death in an American POW camp because of his SS- allegiance. I knew only one of them. He hated the war (often talked about casualties or piles of dead Russians) but, despite being quite a gentleman, he respected Hitler and could not really hide it. He once proudly showed me his SS insignia.

My uncle was in the Hitler Youth. He still says he wants a flying license so that he can "bomb Jews". Poor little guy, as a child he was terribly brainwashed during the war which upset my grandmom who once beat him until his nose was bloody after he saluted her "Heil Hitler".

So my family was quite split up between Nazis and ordinary people who just wanted to work and take care of the family. It is quite likely that II would have been on the Nazi part of the family.

>>126870880
That is insane!

>>126871003
Yeah thats gotta suck knowing you guys could've done a lot better.

>>126867588
Not a Germanon, but both my Grandfathers served in combat arms in WW2, one as a Marine in the Pacific and one as a Soldier in North Africa, Italy and Europe.

Grandad who served in Europe actually spoke highly of the Nazis he encountered. He said there was a lot of obvious resentment after battles when some of your friends had been killed, but on the whole they seemed like intelligent, dedicated, professional and humane people. He never talked about the war in much detail until I was getting ready for my first combat deployment to Afghanistan in 2002. We talked for a couple hours at length about his experiences and he said what haunted him the most was knowing that good men were killing each other throughout the entire campaign. He respected the Nazis and without going full 1488 never showed any anger towards their treatment of the Jews. He was an educated man and knew full well what the Jews had done in Germany prior to the rise of the Nazi party. His biggest regret was killing so many honorable men, though he was mindful that he opted to serve his nation, wherever that call may have led him.

Other Grandad passed away before I enlisted, but he hated the fucking Japs. Never showed a single sign of regret for all the killing he was involved in. Apparently he had come across some dumps where they strung up mutilated wounded and captured Marines and Sailors like the savages they were and from that point on showed no mercy.

>>126871217
Oy vey

Great-Grandfather's brother was in the Finnish SS. Said while he never approved of what they did in Germany, he said he was proud to have fought against the Soviets and thought that we'd been better off fighting them then the Germans.

He was the first person who red pilled me as a child.

>>126871205
What did they keep? Did the pow talk about it at all?

>>126871217
A bit hard to follow, but ultimately rewarding. Good on him for being so young and honoring the memories of the Catholics.

>>126871646
Those kikes deserved it. They killed their neighbors.

The story made me wonder why the fuck would anyone in their right mind trust a Jew.

>>126871308
He finished school and got an apprenticeship that was related to the maintenance of agricultural machines (he was from rural Silesia) before he had to join the military, and after the war he quickly ascended to an administrative position in a factory, where he earned pretty good money. Interestingly, they offered him a fairly high position in the postwar army as an instructor, what with him having been part of an elite unit, but he refused out of principle.

>>126871217
Wow so does he still hate them? Also where they not taken away by the nazis?

>>126871908
Not everyone knows they're not trustworthy, and how could they? Why would a normaltard just believe that this supposedly oppressed group actually has deceit embedded into their genes?

I live in NYC so I learned from a young age not to trust them. I can't talk about it here though.

My family is very anti-nazi and stuff. For my part, I share these views as well. Hitler and the Nazis did no good for Germany and persecuted many of our valuable citizens. Now imagine if Hitler wouldn't have fucked it up. Germany would look much better now. We lost many years and even then we recovered well. Without the help of the Americans this wouldn't have been possible. Not to mention that many jews are moving to Germany again so maybe there is still a chance for forgiveness. If you look at Berlin, it has one of the largest communities of Israel/jews.
New synagogues have been built and there are many actions to improve the dialogue between the different cultures.
Normally I would have voted for the SPD (most of my family members vote for them) but I think that Merkel can provide us a much-needed stability.

>>126871908
Not everyone knows they're not trustworthy, and how could they? Why would a normaltard just believe that this supposedly oppressed group actually has deceit embedded into their genes?

I live in NYC so I learned from a young age not to trust them. I can't talk about it here in the city though.

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>>126871372
That sucks that they made him starve, did your great uncle that showed you the insignia ever talk about it?

>>126868641
Germany can be saved, it's up to people like you anon.

>>126871553
Thats super interesting! My grandma still has a burning hatred for the japs as well.

>>126871830
Further proof this could have happened:http://www.lithuanianjews.org.il/HTMLs/article_list4.aspx?C2014=14065&BSP=14055&BSS6=13971

(The guy omits the lighting up of churches. Look to the part of the youth movement).

>>126870880

Maybe yours knew my grandfather. He is originally from Brandenburg and told me some stories about fighting Russians near lakes in his home area at the end of the war.

At the end, they got captured but they let my grandfather go because he was only 14. He then fled to the West.

>>126871697
Oh nice perspective! Did he talk about anything else?

>>126867588
My Grandpas just killed some anglos on the western front as much as I know.

Posting my Grandpa's European campaign journal

September 11, 1944
Left the States night of Sept 11, Sea Tiger cargo vessel. Bad weather first four days. Sighted islands off England on Sept 22. Stayed in Wey Mouth Harbor overnight. Sailed to Cherbourg on the 23rd, landed the 25th. Trucked to area of St. Pierre Egliese. Bivouac area fair. Rain constantly. Lots of hail mingled in. What is our purpose?
October 8, 1944
Sunday, still loafing around. Sun out but clouds beginning to pile up. Sick as a dog. Cramped up terribly. Have eaten little. C-47s still move enmasse.
October 16, 1944
Nothing new. Mud everywhere ankle deep. We were told we were supposed to go to the Luxemburg area. Tommyrot I say.
October 22, 1944
Have been forgetting to make entries and things have been happening. On Oct 19th we were told we were moving to Belgium near Archen. Transferred to 19th corps under General Courtlet, 18th Infantry Regiment, 1st army under Lieutenant General Hodges. Wow! Marched from area to Volognes on Oct 21st, my birthday. What misery. This morning we left by rail for Maastricht, about 25 miles from Archen. 35 men in a boxcar. You can’t imagine the situation.
October 23rd, 1944
Going to miss Paris. Most likely hit Liege like I first thought. It is the devil trying to sleep at nights. Crowded as hell.
October 24, 1944
Compience and Valenciennes have been passed, about ready to go to Belgium. Would like to have some mail. We ought to know soon whether or not we see action.

>>126871914
Thanks. All interesting to hear.

>>126872609
October 25, 1944
As usual with this outfit, things are all messed up. Now we are to go to some little joint near Maastricht called Coloy or there about. Right now we are in Hasselt. Quite a bit north of Liege, and about 25 miles north west of Maastricht. There are rumors that robot bombs are falling in the area where we are headed. Now they say the railroad ahead is bombed out and we must return in order to detour. We’ll end up walking yet. Later – Captain Nust said we would be bivouacked two miles from the front lines. Combat Friday the 27th ????


October 27th, 1944
On Wednesday evening we entered a German town near Aachen and bivouacked outside of it. We are going to be in it alright. Our artillery is terrific. There are duals constantly. At 08:30 we get the final poop. Move forward at 13:00. We are to close the 30th’s lines. It is said that action by ground troops is light at the present, but I believe as does most everyone else that a big push is near.
November 1, 1944
Well, we have had it although it was only a holding action. Plenty of artillery and German “Burp” guns and 34s-42s. Three injuries within the company. Reaction is peculiar up there. You get scared and then it goes away. Things are so damned dirty though. We are now in an area behind the lines a bit, getting some what of a rest. Heavenly.

>>126867588
My Grandmother grew up on a farm near Nuremberg. Her father was put in charge of keeping POWs there, which she as a young teen felt everyone was amiable about, even the POWs. She remembers talking with them and them sharing their chocolate rations with her. So I imagine her family were some kind of Nazi's if given such a job.

I don't know how legit that is but it was her story.

After the war, my grandfather who was a driver for the Nuremberg trials, met her. They got married, had my mom and then returned to America after that.

It was all downhill from there.

>>126872663
November 3, 1944
Moved forward again and into one hot spot. Mortars landing around us constantly. These houses have taken a terrible beating. In the States, you read: how there is no church in Germany; how blankets are salvaged for the army; how the Nazis are cracking up. BALONEY! I wish it were all true for then maybe this would be over sooner, but in every house there are many crucifixes, pictures of Christ and all sorts of comforters. The Nazis fight doggedly and there seems to be little hope in a quick surrender. The pill boxes around here are powerfully built. 4 foot reinforced concrete. I have to quit right now. 88s are dropping right on us.
November 5, 1944
Somewhat quiet now. Shelling seems to come in stages. Two men killed last night due to a direct hit. Received first mail today in quite some time. Sure is good. We all wonder how long this stay will be.
November 7, 1944
Election day, vote republican. We are wasting away in this war. Every day is spent in watching? Our minds are becoming stagnant. Nothing is ever gained here. Some what quiet night last night. Very heavy firing this morning however. How long is this crap going to keep up?
November 8, 1944
I have never written our position here. We are attached to the 80th Infantry, 119th Regiment under Major General Hobbs. Wurselen, North of Aachen is the town. The hot poop I received this AM is as follows. The 102nd Infantry Division will move to Holland and be attached to the 2nd armored division. A big push which may end the war is near. So, the rumor goes. Sounds good, but must wait for time to tell. Glad to leave this Germany, but may return.

>>126872447
Oh ffs when the first line is "The Catholic church was one of the main sources for spreading and propagating anti-Semitism in Lithuania" is when I know that I'm about to be treated to a steaming heap of Jewish bullshit.

Thank you for the link though, I'll remember your story and save this for redpilling others.

>>126872236

That was the revenge on the SS for killing American POW on the Western front. But my great-uncle never talked to me about the death of his brother. He was not that mad about the Americans because afterwards they treated him much better and the US protected his hometown (in US-occupied Bavaria) and the rest of the country. You saved us from the commies...

>>126872031
Did you have family that fought in the war? Did they get caught up in it?

>>126872709
November 14, 1944
We have been in this area for the last five days. Holland! But still close to Germany. The last offensive this winter and we all hope that it will be the very last. Should come off very soon. Weather is holding us back. Plenty thankful for this rest. English are on our left. 29th & 30th on our right. 2nd is here.
November 20, 1944
Plenty going on. We moved out of the above area on Wednesday the 15th. Trucked to a village in Germany called Flunereich and walked to some other town near by. Plenty of action had been going on. The town had just been taken and Jerry was plenty near by. At dawn we moved out in reserve in the attack. Pinned down in an open field and dug in. Spent the most miserable night in my life there. Ankle deep in mud, rain , and cold for 36 hours, and shells falling all the time. Friday at 13:00 we went into the attack again and advanced 1,000 yards across the open field. Another night in the holes. At dawn we moved into the small village of Apweilbr. This was Sunday and we got a fairly decent night’s sleep. Again the attack. This time at 11:00 this morning. What a sun of a gun this was. At 15:00 we finally entered our objective town. Company has had quite a few casualties as injuries. Should be relieved. The Nazi is a rat. He snipes away at our men until he is overwhelmed. Then he surrenders so sweetly. They really eat up a company that way. The towns are in near ruins. If Germany hopes to continue this war, all her cities will be flattened. Her whole country will be ruined.

>>126868641
>Grandson likes Chinese cartoons

>>126871705
>what did they keep
some pictures of their relatives and a an old sewing machine, the only reason we kept the sewing machine is because it was something from their old home in silesia.

>did the pow talk about it at all
I wasnt alive when he was, only thing i know about him is that siberia had taken its toll on him

>>126872815
November 25th, 1944
Liege: Nazi finally got me, but he didn’t know it. On the morning of November 21 at 11:00 we again attacked. Objective: high ground 1,200 yards out from the town. We took off right across the fields and after a long pull, gained our objective without encounter. But here a machine gun opened up and we build up a line in German foxholes, which I believe were part of an ack-ack position there. I crawled forward to locate the machine gun position and called it back to Lieutenant Askew. I tried to get tracers to set the haystack on fire and while waiting for these, 88s started blasting away. When these quieted down, I raised up for another look when an overhead burst knocked me flat. Blood was everywhere. Askew fixed me up and after resting for a while, I walked back about ¾ miles to the aid station. I was there all afternoon. An ambulance took me to Heerlen (Netherlands) where two operations were performed. A good size piece of shrapnel struck the left side of my face, splitting the nostril, breaking my upper jaw, smashing my teeth in front top and left side and finally lodging in my left shoulder. Right now, I’m in a general hospital in Liege waiting to go to England so I can be fixed up. This surely is hell. My mouth feels like a mass of unset concrete. What will Jan say?

My grandfathers were only low rank cannon fodder. One died before I was born from a heart disease he probably got during his russian imprisonment. The other lost an arm when he was hit by artillery fire somewhere in eastern europe and spent the rest of the war in hospitals.

>>126872468
What were his views on the nazis?

>>126871940
Again, this is a small ass fishing village on the Baltic Sea in Lithuania.

But regarding his hated.
He doesn't really talk about the war and his feelings that much. Friend tells me when he does talk about it, his face is one of anger and sadness. He killed people at the age of 12. That kind of fucks you up. FG still despises Russians. He kind of despises Germans (though much less) for ruining his childhood (When he had to flee his village when the Ruskie infantry invaded, the Germans thought he was a Partisan, so they shoot at him).

>>126872592
Thats lucky they werent east, did they talk about it?

>>126867588
>88
>Did your family talk about WWII?
One of my grandfathers brought up his war stories at every opportunity.
>Were they favorable to the nazis?
One grandfather was, the other just hated communists.
>Did they deny their involvements?
Nope.
>Did they keep anything from that time?
Their medals. Sorry for the shitty pic.

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>>126872553
He said that the Soviets were just dumb bastards. He said average day would be like this:

>Wake up
>Eat cooked food from local villages that hadn't been overrun
>Ski to only road accessable for tanks for miles
>Wait for Soviets to come
>They do, like always
>Take out the lead and rear tanks
>Soviets trapped
>Molotov the shit out of everything
>Ski away when they run out of ammo
>Repeat

My GG fought with the Navy in WWII, and he said not even the Japs were that stupid.

>>126868641
>I have honestly no idea why so many Germans choose to not be stuck in the past

FTFY

>>126872709
Holy shit. These are incredible. Please save these.

>>126872677
Your grandma fucked those POWs

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>>126872864
"Jan" is not my grandmother, must have been his gf during the war.

He ended up with half a mouth of dentures, split right down the middle, and a glass eye

He died about two weeks ago, on a friday.

Press F to pay respects

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>>126867588
My Grandpa was an Italian Partisan who would worn American occupiers of houses held by German forces using a red or white flag during the Invasion of Sicily.

He was just another Shit poor farmer so I guess he didn't understand much about politics and just didn't want to be on the losing side

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>>126873102
oops

>>126867588
Both my grandpas fought in the war, one fell. My grandmother and her best friend inevitably will talk about ww2 when I visit then or they me. My grandma mostly talks about how they had to take cover in a bunker from carpet bombings. She also always notes how they didn't have this or that during the war (normal food, hot water, etc). All with the thickest swabian accent you can imagine.
When i was little i found 2 intact wwii bolt actions in the cellar, but my uncle put them away. Id love to have them now

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back when my grandparents lived i wasnt interested yet. i was bluepilled about WW2 and didnt want to bring up bad memories. now i wish i would have asked as im really interested. my mother said they always said they didnt knew about the genocide which she doesnt believe. i love my mother but its kinda sad she believes (((them))) more than her parents

>>126873208
Eh, I know my grandmother pretty well and I doubt it, simply because there wasn't enough profit in doing so.

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>>126873233
oh yes, MORE TO THE STORY in another document I have

November 21st, 1944
(The following is apparently a report from a fellow soldier of Able Company explaining to Dad what happened to Able Company after Dad was hit on November 21, 1944. Dad was wounded during the day and made it back to the aid station before most of what this report said happened to Able Company later that day. This report was typed up in El Paso, Texas after the soldier returned. Dad was sent to Texas to recover from his wounds after spending a few months in England, and maybe that’s where they connected.)
“Throughout the afternoon, I carried ammo from my hole to the line, which was subjected to continuous artillery and 88 fire all day. Toward six o’clock, I made my last trip and settled in a hole with C____, next to the one you saw me that noontime. Darkness closed around us and with it, a merciless barrage of mortars and artillery shells.
“Company __, which had moved up to the left flank of Able Company, moved back toward Gereonsweiler in scattered formation, if it could even be called that. J____ and I saw no Able Company men so stayed on in the hole. Our rifles were full of mud and unable to fire. Finally, the sky was filled with machine gun tracer bullets and sharp cracking noises filled the air. It was too dark by this time to see much more than ten yards in front of the hole. Lt. Askew jumped in with us, immediately followed by a barrage of 88s hitting just outside the foxhole. He crawled out and disappeared in the dark. Joe W___ and B ______ came scrambling through the beet patches, but wouldn’t stop to talk to us. They hurried toward Gereonsweiler. There was much shouting and rifle fire all the time.

My Great Grandfather fought for Germany in WWII then immigrated to Straya post-war. Never really spoke about it in detail but he was extremely racist to a comical level.

>>126871553
>knew full well what the Jews had done in Germany prior to the rise of the Nazi party

Which was?

>>126873233
F

>>126873032
>did they talk about it?
Not much, they were drafted pretty late in the war. I know that both of them disliked Nazis as they blamed them for the loss of family members as far as I know. I still own some fotos of them on the western front, dunno where they are though.

>>126868323
>Great Aunt was all about that 3rd Reich. Got raped by Russian soliders.
This brings smile to my face.

>>126873532
“Finally, the realization that we were “the front” or the outpost of a front way behind shocked us into action. About this time, Capt D_____ started running from his hole nearby, crying to us to take off. Tiger tanks growled toward us, and the handful of us scattered for the rear. It was pitch black and easy to get separated. This we did and I found myself at the mercy of darkness. Finally, I managed to reach Gereonsweiler. How, I do not know. It was about a mile across rough terrain, subjected to intense fire. I located the aid station and lay wet and shivering on a mattress. About 12 midnight, the captain came in, nervous and showing signs of having been crying. In the morning, I found the rest of Able Company, B_____, W_____, M_____, C_____, S_____, H_____, and one man from the 4th platoon. That night, remnants of the 2nd drifted in. The third was lost completely.”
He goes on to say what the real story was from repatriated men released by the Russians. “It seems that a platoon of __ Company on our right flank broke when they saw a bunch of SS troops approaching on the run. Rushing through our line, they confused the men and allowed the Germans to attack Able Company from the side, not the front. The boys couldn’t defend themselves with American as well as German troops rushing through the gaps in the line. SS men with grenades and automatic weapons blasted a trail of destruction down our line. Our men threw in the towel. As they were being herded into Jerryland, our artillery splattered the scene, killing Germans right and left. 4 Tiger tanks churned toward the top of the hill and me. Three months later, Able Company followed the boys across the Roer, to Krefeld, and Hanover, where some were found.”
>(That’s the end of this report. There is no name associated with this report. Only that the soldier was part of Able Company and this took place on November 21, 1944.)

>>126872758
Ah i see, well im glad there is a positive mindset towards us

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>>126873233
God bless.

>>126872835
I bet, man that sucks and photos would be priceless.

>>126873589
You and me both Ivan.

>>126873678
>>126873678
holy shit saved

>>126872906
Damn, what did they think of the Nazis?

>>126873840
What do you think? Probably despised their own existence

>>126871247
My grandfather died before I was born, wish I had got to meet him.

He was 17yr old polish guy when the nazis invade Poland. He turned 18 and was immediately forced to fight for the Germans. Went nuts and slaughtered his way out and escaped to Britain. Dropped dead in the streets from cancer when my father was 20

>>126867588
Whatever happened to the surname Hitler? Can't imagine many people keeping it

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Enjoy, anon.

>>126874043
>>126873839

>tfw great grandfather served in the Coast Guard
Must be great..

>>126873233
It sounds like he was a great man. May he rest in peace.

>>126873102
Thats cool, i wish more people would have shared like that and i understand why you would keep the medals. Did they ever talk about the Nazi party? Also ty for the check

>>126867588
after listening to J Peterson's talk about nazi germany I pity and sympathize with the german people of that era. They were getting fucked up the ass by every country around them after WWI which they didn't even start and the communists were constantly causing riots, and political upheaval, not hard to imagine how someone like hitler was then given power to fix those problems.

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>>126874021
>Did your family talk about WWII?
All the time, not really dinnertable conversations though.
>Were they favorable to the nazis?
They disliked the concentration and removal of all these... "people", but they suported the other plans that Hitler had.
>Did they deny their involvements?
No
>Did they keep anything from that time?
Pic related. as kids we played soldiers with it.

>>126867588
My great grandmother didn't like them. Hitler youth was required. Men came to her door one day inquiring why her 16 year old son hadn't gone to a meeting. She told them that he would come as soon as they let him leave the Russian front.

>>126873233
F

No bitterness on the part of former German soldiers about the world-historical disaster of invading Russia?

>>126873839
This was the moment this veteran caused Obama to say "ayo hold up"

>>126873342
Ouch, too much history was lost by not talking

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>>126874021
Hitler is not popular anymore, they tried to forbid the name for a while, but it failed. I still know some people named Adolf though. Also Mengele is a well known name for they produce agriculture stuff now instead of doing experiments on jews.

>>126873537
SS or wermarcht?

>>126873585
Oh tjats cool that you still have those

>>126874897
I might search for them in the attic and post them when I have the time .

Something doesn't add up. You're telling me the Nazis kept the Jewish village untouched over the entire war until they fled from the Russians in - probably - 1944? That timeline doesn't really work.

>>126867588
1.Yes
2.Yes
3.Why ?
4.Yes

>>126867588
Grandpa was a Pilot of Transport Planes in and out Stalingrad. He was one of the last machines to get out, he said. 144 Bullet holes, but thankfully no explosive ammo, so he wasnt shot down.

>>126874205
My mothers father inherited the monarchist stance from his father and would have preferred it if Kaiser Wilhelm came back.
My fathers father liked Hitler for hating a lot of things he hated, but didn't care about Jews either way.
Neither joined the party.
My grandmothers were both in the BDM, but there's nothing interesting to tell there.

>>126874461
Anything noteworthy that was said?

>>126871217
the baltic states are fucking based. A shame Stalin pumped 25 % of their population with gopnik bydlos.

>>126867908

Most people who lived through the war in the baltic probably have similar stories. My grandmother recalled how the German soldiers would give her candy, and when they saw her doing farmwork they came to help. Some officers came over for dinner one night aswell. Soviets on the other hand looked and acted like mongoloid barbarians.

>>126875017
You should

>>126875227
As in what?

>>126875051
Can you elaborate? And because so many people always say "no my family hated the nazis" and that cant be everyone.

>>126875098
Shit thats lucky, he must've been sad knowing he wasnt able to keep getting supplied there.

>>126867588
It's none of American business. A reminder that you betrayed us, and we have not forgotten that,

>>126867740
This my family is right leaning. and my mother did not ever say somenthing bad about Hitler or National Socalism but thats probably because Grandparents were in the SS

>>126873538
probably talking about the money shuffling by jewish industrialists and bankers during WW1 to Britain's benefit; jewish/commie activity in the November Revolution; luegenpresse being predominantly jewish

>>126874736
>>126874736
sadly. i really wish i would have just asked

>>126875466
War stories, who they supported, what opinions they had of the whole thing.

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Dad is Austrian

Never once talked about family in the war, if there were any, but I'd assume there had to be.

My dad is fairly red-pilled but I'm pretty sure he still has some basic anti-Nazi views because of the run of the mill indoctrination I assume they get in school there.

I'll have to muster up the will to ask him one day about it all.

Pic related, Wehrmacht lads in the town my dad was born in.

>>126875629
When?

>>126875706
Shit, did your grandparents ever talk about it?

>>126874231
>WWI which they didn't even start
It this like a dindu meme? Germany declared war on Russia, France and invaded Belgium without any war declaration.

>>126868068
I think because it literally could destroy their lives for example 200-300 guys in our military have been shown to like the Third Reich and are right leaning and now there is a huge crusade against right leaning or national socalists in the military from banning traditional military songs to renaming barracks that had ww2 generals names for example the "rommel Barracks" and the military intelligence service is hunting for right leaning / national socalists now in the military and after the war the allies had their reeducation programms to remove Nationalism fully in Germany or make it the biggest taboo so don't expect anyone to show it in public

>>126875857
After 1945
I see that the western betrayal is something they have swept under the rug there.

>>126875945
The one on my mothers side i never knew him and from my fathers side i knew him but i was too young to ask questions i was like 9 when he died.

Great grandpa was in Auschwitz, great grandma died. I'm a Germananon in some sense as all my great grandparents were German Jews, so just going to say that even though the gas chambers never existed, doesn't mean millions of Jews didn't die.

Not that I like Jews, at all...

>>126875321
Yeah. The wrong people won the war.

>>126875972
Wow thats cucked! First off Rommel is pretty well regarded even here so thats stupid and wow that's really awful.

>>126873234
Oh yeah one time he god interrogated by some SS officers but got off Scott free. I imagine if they did catch him he'd probably get shot and killed. I wish I had a German ancestor to tell some actually god stories

>>126875972
Who do they expect to join the military if not nationalists with an unapologetic view of German history?

Whatever, the purges will just make the Merkel regime easier to overthrow.

>>126876041
Our war/foreign policy education is non existent here unless you take college courses on it or seek it yourself. Did we leave you to the commies or something?

>>126876138
Damn thats too bad.

>>126875968
They declared war officially because Russia was moving troops without declaring war at the request of France with Britain supporting, Belgium was being a POS refusing free passage

>>126876298
Did he survive?

>>126875098
I read that the outgoing transports were crammed so full of wounded from the 6th Army so they could hardly lift off. They were literally fighting each other for a ticket out of Stalingrad.

>>126875822
He was fond of the infrastructure that the regime built, because he would always travel from town to town to man anti aircraft cannons or help passively by evacuating people, so he would often complain about the bad roads and how his back hurt so much from the military vehicles that didn't have suspension. Thank god he was never in the frontlines, always just defense in villages around our town

>>126876410
Thats probably because of this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rommel_myth


>>126876526
They don't care Germany after 1945 isn't really Germany anymore

>>126875629
We never promised anything to you. Hell, we never promised anything to the Poles. Its not that we betrayed you, it is that we didn't even consider you.

Besides if we had attacked the Soviets to liberate you Latvia would be just like Western Europe. Flooded with brown people and bitching about how terrible America is while abandoning their own culture in favour of American culture.

>>126876662
Interesting and man that must've been frightening manning those guns.

>>126872709
My birthday is on Nov 7 and that year I voted Republican too

>>126876738
Dud we def betrayed them
But shit happens, they should move on.

>>126876599
>Baw Russia is preparing for an attack, how dare they not let us surprise them
>Baw Belgium wants its national integrity to be enforced
The Kaiser was already clear that he wanted war, Russia mobilizing was perhaps the best way to diffuse the situation by illustrating to Germany that not only were they willing to fight, but that their massive military was fully prepared to fight now.

>>126876921
Betraying implies we made promises to them, which we did not. Now Poland was totally betrayed by Britain and to some extent the US, but Latvia wasn't.

>>126875194
Oh yeah
My grandmothers father was an early Austrian Nazi, but I obviously never met him.

>>126876541
The Allies promised the Baltics and Poland that they would come to aid in regaining independence, but secretly handed us to Stalin on a silver platter instead.
There was still fighting going on well into the late 1950s, in hopes that the west would keep their promise. We found uut much later that all of it was in vain, as we were sold to the Soviets in the Yalta conference.

This is all you will get from me. Go find the rest yourself.

>>126876639
Yeah but he refused to talk about his experiences so I knew something was up; he was a bit of a badass though - in a smaller camp he killed the guards and took their clothes to try and sneak out as a Nazi, but I shit you not his nose was too big so they caught him kek

>>126876721
Mostly from what ive seen is military personal favoring him or our history films regarding him as a brilliant commander. The clean wermarcht thing is definitely around as well unfortunately.

>>126876965
>Russia mobilizing was perhaps the best way to diffuse the situation
History says they were wrong.
Belgium was planning to let France through to invade Germany, they were POS french loving faggots

>>126875972
Deutschbrudi, unrelated question. I'm moving to Mannheim next year, what's a good way to meet good Germans that are redpilled?

>>126867588
Mother side were both hardcore natsoc, grandpa fought in france and the netherlands. grandma made artillery shells.
Fathers side was hardcore german but not really sold on the natsoc thing. grandpa was born into some really old prussian family and was really not keen on the nat soc movement but thought a strong german military is needed.

>>126877105
All I need, I'll check it out but the government then was much less transparent to the people so i doubt too many even knew about that.

>>126877107
Kek damn thats badass. Too bad he didn't talk.

>>126867588
My grandparents would trade eggs and other food items with German soldiers stationed near the coast.

They maintain that these men were honorable, never stole anything and never threatened them. They were just happy to be here instead of dying in Russia.

Nearing the end supplies were running low and the German troops started trading military knick-knacks for any kind of luxury (eggs, chocolate, smokes, whatever pretty much) making Denmark a very good place to collect memorabilia. I have quite a few items myself; A good K98 bayonet will cost you 65 bucks and an Iron cross is actually affordable here.

>>126873538
commie revolutions?

>>126873233
Jan is a guys name tho.

>>126877253
>History says they were wrong.
Because Wilhelm is an idiot who gave Austria-Hungary a blank check to start WW1 without considering the consequences of their actions. What did Germany do to try and diffuse the situation?>Belgium was planning to let France through to invade Germany, they were POS french loving faggots
French is one of the main languages in Belgium, Belgians and Frenchmen are cultural brothers, and Belgium had a small German minority that Germany might want back someday. Belgium had several reasons to support France over Germany. Regardless Belgium has the right to territorial sovereignty, if they want to use it to fuck over other countries that is their right. If you want to invade them that is your right, just don't be surprised when you make enemies.

>>126877418
No as in him not talking is exactly what loads of other camp survivors did, which seems questionable - almost as if they were told not to.

He definitely wasn't a Jew supremacist or anything though; he married a blonde Belgian after the war.

>>126877290
What involvement in the war did the Prussian grandfather have? And thats crazy did they stay natsoc after?

>>126877105
That sucks man, but at least your kids aren't nihilistic trannies. The west is lost, I'd rather have a caliphate

>>126877277
To be honest you probably will barely to none to find somebody in Public that will be redpilled or that will show it otherwise just make friends and slowly find out stuff about them what i noticed though that Easterners or Southerners are more Nationalistic than some in the West but thats just my two cents

>>126875968
The soviets were massing troops along their own border. Even we knew that. They also built airfields quite close to us. I know this from my grandfather, he was an AA gunner. The soviets were preparing for an attack.

>>126874021
It was just a stage name

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>>126867588
You'd have to be retarded to be German and support nazis.

Don't forget that they started a pretty much unwinnable war (just compare manpower and industrial output - long term victory was extremely unlikely, not to mention all the resistance movements piling up) and lost it.

In the process they ruined the reputation of Germany and lost land (ironic when you consider >muh lebensraum). They also ended the long period of European revelance in the world.

Great work nazis!

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>>126867588
>be german colony in the ukraine
>commies take over and send family to gulags
s-sorry lads

>>126877961
jews did that...

>>126877641
He fought in russia and survived. lived till 1998 or something, died of lung cancer since the smoked 3 packs a day.
Name was Hans, same as my dad and as my middle name.
I dont know exactly what regiment he fought in because he never talked about ww2. He said something along the lines "If I ever talk about it they will do worse things to me than they already did" the man survived russian captivity, so i dont even wanna know what they did to him.
Hes at peace now, lying next to his wife and his brother on a cemetary in Cologne.

>>126877602
Interesting

>>126877596
> What did Germany do to try and diffuse the situation?
Why are you putting the onus on Germany for simply responding to Russia's military actions?
>if they want to use it to fuck over other countries that is their right
or, you know, don't

>>126878123
Damn thats too bad.

Grandpa always told me he loved his time in the waffen ss and hated jews and Anglos till his death he kept his copy of mein kampf grandma still has it

>>126878481
Did he talk about his time in it?

>>126876894
>>126876894
h-how old are you??

>>126867588
Pops grew up in Nazi Germany. Loved it. Was a Hitler Youth.

Didn't talk about the war much. When he did, it was bad- finding the remains of little friends in the street after a bombing.

Always red-pilled me on the Jews and the holocaust.

>>126878671
My bad... Last year I voted Republican but I bring it up because my birthday is on Nov 7

They didn't talk much about whether they supported the regime. My paternal Great Grandfather was a doctor and continued to treat some Jews. After the Fall of France literally every German liked the regime and so did they. Both my Grandfathers served the whole six years and on my mothers side he spent another 5 years in a Russian pow camp. He later became an alcoholic and always cursed in Russian when he was drunk as my mother told me.

Great Uncle served with the german Navy. His ship sunk 1940 at narvik. POW for rest of the War. Great Uncle #2 served at a Horse Hospital till the end of the War, didnt had to fight. Grandpa served in a Luftwaffe Bau Kompanie, till he gets dismissed in 1941. He had a crash with a bike as a teenager and one of his legs never worked right again. Works then for Henschel & Sohn in Kassel (building dat Tigers). Gets Bombarded and meets my Grandma hiding in the forests around the factory. So thx America, you created me and my family while burning some others to ashes. Grandma had great stories of the bombings of kassel (molten streets with stuck people). Grandma didnt liked the jews till her death. Grandpa died early. All of my family was part of the NSDAP, i own pics of them at the nuremberg rally.

>>126878923
I'd drink too if i had survived that.

>>126878949
Thats nuts, were they natsoc after the war?

I also have hundred of photos made by family members of World War 2 and dozens of World War 1

>>126878582
Yes he fought in Russia after D day he was posted in Arnhem to gaurd the bridge there he told me he never felt brotherhood like in the ss

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>>126867740
>>126868291
>>126868557

My grandfather always told me to never trust a Moff (German).

My grandparents where to young to fight in the war, at least that's what they say. My grandfather on my mothers side had two brothers though, one died in the war and the other got badly unjured. They never really talked about the war, only about the time after it. My parent are both very anti National Socialist, center left and are bluepilled as fuck to the point of no return.

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>>126879386
Hmm our grandfathers would have hated each other

My grandfather told me the story where he ran through a forest (he was in a radio company) and ran into a Russian and both fled in absolute fear.

>>126874461

I will pay $8000 USD for a portrait of this image IRL

>>126879549
You would be suprised how much that happend

>>126877823
Vielen Dank

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>>126877961
>Don't forget that they started

What's that?

>>126879386
>Being Commie sympathizer cuck off spring
ouch

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>>126877961

I can dump some WW1 pictures I don't have the WW2 ones saved on this pc

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>>126879725

>>126876298

my great grandpa was made into a lampshade 30 times!!

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>>126879772
30 different lampshades? Or the same lampshade 30 different times?

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>>126879236

F

>>126878481
So basically your granddad was an "land verrader" by the NSB.

>>126867588
yes , my grandfather was Adolf H. from Braunau , he invented da show "A" and all da stuff you see on da B-movie

>>126879701
> Being an NSB facist offspring.
Feels better?

>>126873233
F

Thanks for sharing this. As another pointed out, Jan is a Dutch man's name.

>>126879873
Nee hij zat niet bij de Nsb hij ging gelijk bij de waffen ss

>>126879956
Well I'm not but I wouldn't have been bothered by it, no

>>126873538
Surely you don't believe the "the entire country was just seeing ghosts and hated jews for no reason, they dindu nuffin" story?

>>126879532
You grandfather never reached any close to herr Joseph. Probably was an NSB cuck, too scared to defend his country.

> Our "resistance" (Verzet) were the real Nat. Socs.
> Think about that.

>>126867588
My Grandfather probably was in the HJ but never talked about it, he occascionally let lose with anti-semitic or generally racist diatribes.

My Grandma had to flee Berlin when she was five or six years old, saw Dresden burn, saw Berlin in ruins when she came back with her mother and brother and experienced extreme scarcity of everything, first and foremost food (hash browns made from potato skins were a treat, freeze dried carrot cubes the closest they had to candy). Got scabies from their living conditions and bathed in hot vinegar to get rid of it. Classical war/post-war child.

>>126879193
They never said it, but yes, i think they still where natsoc. Kept everything from that time, Mein Kampf, Medals,books, Aryan passes etc., also they often talked about the wonderful time they had, even getting bombarded like hell. Heres a little bonus story from Grandma: In 1945 when the americans came to kassel, a friend of my grandma was on vacation from the front. To cite her: He was such a handsome guy, tall, blonde, blue eyes. The Waffen SS draftet him and he was a 100% dedicatet to the cause. He was at home the moment the americans came to our street. The moment he saw the first americans he got his gun and stormed on the streets, shooting 3 deadly and wounding 2 others. He got shot dead and all the people around got told if they move him and bury him, they will be killed. So the corpse of the guy was laying 3 days in the street till they got the courage and placed im in a hasty made grave in the night. I have his EK II and pictures at home.

>>126877961
clean my toilet

Grandpa was in the Red Army and defended Moscow. Got heavily concussed and spent the rest of the War in military Hospitals. So thankfully he never got to rape german broads. Was a pretty good dude (saved his family and another close family from the Holodomor at the age of 14) and never really hated the germans. Even spent the last year of his life here. I was very young when he died so Im sad that I could never speak about the war with him

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>stormfags unironically want Germans to go Nazi again

You know that even if that happens, Szczecin Gdańsk and Wrocław are NOT going back?

>>126879993
Mocht hij willen. Het hoogste wat je in Nederland kon bereiken was het ,"landverrraad", de NSB. Hitler hoefde ons kut Hollanders niet en jou grootvader sprak 99/100 geen vloeiend Duits.

>>126880120
He was not in the Nsb he was waffen ss fighting commies for our people our so called verzet was barely there Belgium did more to resist

>>126880332
Nederlanders diende in de ss in Rusland en hij sprak wel Duits hij was half Duits

>>126869631
Germans generally aren't very obedient, that's just a cliché. We had many, many revolutions in our history, more than France or England.

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>>126880350
They basically blew an entire city the size of Amsterdam from this earth in 24 hours.
Their plans was to go for Utrecht, The Hague and Amsterdam in the next few days.

> Our verzet did a lot on local scale. Eiter it was being cucked or doing buisiness with Germans to distract them. They were fighting 24/7.

My grandfather said meat was scarce and they sometimes ate magpies. There's some special way you can cook them so they don't taste bad. Anyone else hear similar stories?

>>126880120
I'd rather live under German(ic) rule than Jewish rule.

grandfather of my father, rich farmer in east prussia, fought in ww1 as sharpshooter
grandfather 1 of my mother, communist, was drafted to fight as cannon fodder on the eastern front, survived somehow
grandfather 2 of my mother, served in the local police and on the eastern front, survived the war and died later from an old injury.

My great grandfather was taken prisoner by Soviets in 1939. Survived Siberia, joined the rest of Poles who were freed in 1941 and moved to Persia, joined the Polish forces in Middle East, was moved to Italy, killed some Krauts at Monte Cassino fighting in Polish Corps of 8th British Army, returned home safely. Feels good tbqh.

>>126872728
>Oh ffs when the first line is "The Catholic church was one of the main sources for spreading and propagating anti-Semitism in Lithuania" is when I know that I'm about to be treated to a steaming heap of Jewish bullshit.
Catholics generally hate Jews much more than anyone else.

It's well-known, too,. Whenever someone asks me what i think of Jews, I tell him "I'm a Bavarian Catholic, what do you think" and that's that.

>>126880799
>I'd rather live under German(ic) rule than Jewish rule.

> Implying we live under the Jew emperor giving us an Jew life in the Jewtherlands?

I prefer to speak Dutch above German.

So? It was needed the people where brain washed by our kike controlled goverment it was a war it worked they won and where able to move on our verzet was a joke you know it weakest one of all the ocupied nations

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Can any Dutch anon explain the relationship between the Nazis and the Dutch. My family (Dutch immigrants to Aus) haven't really spoken much about the war.

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>data mining thread from obvious outsider (50) OP

>>126873233
F

>>126880799
>>126880946

........Being Germanic does not make you German

>>126881038
From what my grandma and pa told me live went on most people didnt care a smal group wanted to resist most people worked with the germans and allot of young men joined the waffen ss but thats just in my province

>>126880642
The extend of the fires of Rotterdam wasn't deliberate. http://politiek.tpo.nl/2015/05/13/nog-altijd-geen-duitse-excuses-voor-bombardement-op-rotterdam/ You can see in this article that that isn't just 'Nazi propaganda' but knowledgeable Dutch researchers felt so post war.
>>126880946
Oh but we absolutely do. You think what we have now is 'Dutch culture'..? lol. We're seeing the same decline as the UK, France, Germany, the US.. because the same people are behind it.

>>126880990
True but they did at least hate those Moffs from the bottom of their hearts.

What do you want to start against Germans back then? They had no morals. They would have "Hiroshima'd" the living crap out of our country and Heritage.

> Our verzet poisonned them on the longer run. Kaaskoppen are known for their smartness

>>126881114
I didn't say it does. I said I'd rather have Hitler as ruler than Mr. Rothschild and Mr. Soros.

>>126867588
Napola Grandfather
best time of his life
became the executive of a dax company after the war through Nazi connections
Sieg Heil

>>126881114
True but Hitlers idea was to unite all "Germanic tribes" and to be citizen in the Reich you had to be of "German/Germanic blood"

I have my grandfathers war diary but he used old German kursive that I can't read. From 1942 to 1943 my uncle made a 'translation' that I got in an e-mail. He constantly writes about food, diarrhea, Russian shelling, retreating and his brothers around him getting wounded and killed. His only injury was a broken ancle he got playing soccer. He also had an affair with one Ukrainian girl. We only got his diary after his death.

>>126880577
Germany was like survival of the fittest on steroids. I dont like that germany lost but really there might of been merit to the fact others were scared of them. I heard even during the war there was always vying for power, true?

well my grandma told me how they fled from pommern when the russian came. They killed all their cattle and raped her mother. My other grandma told me of all the dead bodys which got eaten by rats, and how she was happy after the war was over and that the americans were so kind and gave her cake and chocolate. My granfather told me too how they fled from the russians (he was 1o) and his time in the hitler youth and how he felt proud to wear an uniform. My other grandfather i never met since he died becouse of to much alcohol.

>>126881293
They would have saved our heritage now its gone we lost it all after the war we are now a former shell of what we where

>>126867588
>tfw 2nd generation ww2 refugee
>told that family fled germany as political dissenters
>"yeah we didnt agree with the nazi ideology so we left" t. Great grandmother
>great grandma dies
>dissolving her estate
>massive 2mx3m wooden dresser from black forest, worth thousands of $$
>empty it out
>discover vast array of secret compartments stuffed with letters penned by great grandma and grandpa
>personal letters written to hitler among various communications with different nazi military engineering groups
>"anon we lied we fled because we were afraid of being prosecuted. Your great grandpa helped design the tiger 2 tank and was regarded as one of the brightest engineers of his time"
>am actually descendant from fierce national socialists
>tfw article 116 might allow me to return to my homeland and regenerate german supremacy

>>126881038
From the uncertainty at the beginning of the occupation most people later just went on with their lives. German soldiers would leave you alone. You had some 800 Dutch volunteers to fight for the allies and later on tens of thousands of volunteers to fight for the Nazis (for Europe) on the Eastern Front and resistance grew as the Canadians came closer to 'liberating' us. Later on everyone pretended they had resisted the occupation all along when actually they were just fence sitting.

>>126880642
They actually bombed some neighbourhoods in Amsterdam as well, but it's been forgotten over time.

And yes, our verzet did a lot on small scale, but there's a lot to be said about them. The stories have been exaggerated and made more heroic than they were. Fact is, resistance fighters were so radical, the allies didn't want to give them a part in the liberation, out of fear for the human rights of the Nazis. Straight after the war they actually rounded up everyone they suspected of collaborating with the Germans, and made them clear up the minefields using their feet instead of metal detectors. If you want an interesting film on this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YMhOpLNVkU

>>126881237
The bombing was even called off just moments beforehand, but due to a miscommunication the German pilots still carried on with it.

>>126879673
>This dumb iconographic again
Too bad it doesn't mention that Hitler offered an ultimatum to Poland - give him an ex-territorial highway connecting Prussia with Germany, or get invaded. We refused of course, seeing how giving in to German demands ended for Czechoslovakia, so Germans invaded without declaration of war.

It also doesn't mention that Hitler allied himself with Stalin, invading together and letting him to take the Baltic states.

>>126879702
>this fake quote again
Rydz-Smigly literally never said that, retard.

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>>126881237

Dropped about 1300 bombs on Rotterdam

Believe's that the largest extend of the fire was due to the bad firefighters.

>Giggled.

>>126872938

HY was fun, war was shit. He never was a politician, though I believe his onsetting age is starting to reveal some previously hidden power-levels.

In 1945 my grandfather was leading 50 men and they had the order to fight against the Americans after they had already crossed the Rhine. He held a vote and they decided to disobey the order and fight against the Russians instead which were just a hundred kilometres away. The German Army then send someone to arrest him, but they were taken by the advancing Americans before reaching the Russian as they had no fuel.

>>126881458
Diarrhea, Russian shelling and retreating sums up my grandfather description of the eastern front pretty well. Also too much snow and T-34s.

>>126881634
Come home. White South Africans are the kind of immigrants we actually need.

>>126873233
F

>>126881505
>I heard even during the war there was always vying for power, true?
Wouldn't know. Both of my grandfathers were apparently high ranks or something in the Waffen SS, but we were never allowed to talk about it. My grandmother from my father's side (RIP) just told me "Never trust a Jew, they are all liars and perverts" when I was a kid, much to the shock of my mother, who is more left-leaning.

>>126881818
>Sage
the people that actually knew the facts and conducted independent research didn't giggle, they agreed

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>>126867588
My grandpa was discharged due to malaria before he could be sent to European front.
Should have.
I would had been spared from this existence,

>>126867588
We were all in the resistance. My grandmother personally hid 5 billion jews in her basement.

>>126881764
This desu. Idk why revisionists insists on blaming Poland for the whole mess. If Polands' concern was destroying Germany/Hitler they could very easily allied with Stalin and England themselves but you refused

>>126881634

If you want to be a useful and productive member of society, come back right the fuck now.

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>>126881748
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Thats even worse. Show me some sources, that would blow my mind literally.

The liberation allies did anything reasonable against war criminals. It was the Nationalists who rounded up loads of suspected indviduals and tortured them in creative ways. I know: thats were the *human rights* of many nat. socs. are offended. Constant Koster still celebrates Hitlers birthday. You know: those Dutch Nat. Socs are losers, just losers, l-o-s-e-r-s.

>>126882180
Because if they can't shift the blame for starting the war on Poland, entire propaganda they try to build that Hitler was a good boi who dindu nuffin collapses. Hence they make up shit like that Poland "provoked" Hitler to invade by not giving in to his retarded demans, or that Poles "slaughtered German civilians".

>Did your family talk about WW2
My gran talked more about the aftermath than the war itself. She lived in a tiny farming village in the west and when the Americans came through the basically stole and raped everything.
>Were they favourable to the nazis
Kind of, my grand refers to refugees like "americans, wanting to rape and steal all we own" so shes pretty based.
>Did they deny involvements
Not at all, my grandfather was in the Hitler youth, so everything was in open air.

>>126869200
It is, but there are not that many 'real' germans left and it is socially unacceptable to talk about nazi germany in that way

Many young people were 'germanized' in ww2 and the occupants genocided a lot of the real ones and made sure to destroy our culture, spirit and race - this also had the contrary effect.

They've done a lot of bad things to us, do you really think it has been forgotten?

I'm reading his diary right now. The entry for 12.9.1943:

Fall is coming - Bunker has to be covered - Mussolini liberated!

>>126875706
check your basement/attic for treasures

>>126882014
Out of curiosity, have you heard of cases before of the naturalizing of ww2 refugees that weren't jewish? I want to know what, if any, the prescedent is for non-jewish germans who want to return. If it makes any difference, our home village in germany was bombed into the dirt by the brits and rather than relocate to berlin and face either prosecution or death, the family fled. I mean for fucks sakes we have a monastry/chapel named after our family as it was founded by a member of our family in the 12th century or so. We also have blood ties to a former pope. Surely they'd let me in.

>>126882346
I've been trying to find some sources, I believe I saw it in a documentary a while ago, maybe Andere Tijden, i'm not sure. I'll continue to look for it.

He's an interesting read in the meantime:
https://www.historischnieuwsblad.nl/tweedewereldoorlog/artikelen/verzet-in-de-tweede-wereldoorlog/index.html

>>126882180
>Idk why revisionists insists on blaming Poland for the whole mess
They don't They blame Britain for going "Yes *snortle* just provoke Germany, we *stiffled laughter" will assist you."

But Poles are generally dumb and ugly thieves, so who cares.

>>126882082
I cant deny either.
Still: without the war and the alleged *communication* error our country would have been in tact.

The Germans used Rotterdam to warn our ministry for seeing Utrecht, The Hague and Amsterdam turn into ashes as well.
> Also a "miscommunication"?

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kek my grandfather loves talking about slaughtering all those germans while he was parading around
bagged a few distressed qts too

fuck germany
they destroyed the face of nationalism because hitler couldnt keep himself from sperging out

>>126882654
Yes and the allies bombed us aswell your point being ?

>>126882513
Already inherited some stuff Guns,Music plates with swastikas on them, and some other stuff they're catching dust in the basement once i will get an old disk player i want to listen to some

>>126882410
We tend to defend it because it was a different morale, every party has done bad things and we were the only ones that had to deal with such harsh consequences after both world wars and were demonized both times.
Very few people are aware of the objective view and do research to judge it rationally, but everyone has a strong opinion based on a one sided perspective

>>126882654
A miscommunication, yes.

General Winkelman already surrendered to the Germans at the point the German planes appeared on the horizon. The Germans told their pilots not to continue the bombing if red tracer bullets were fired into the air.

The tracers were fired, but the pilots decided to continue the bombing run anyway. I'm not entirely sure why, they probably just missed the sign.

>>126882729
t. kikespawn

>>126882729
he was literally manifesting his destiny, which you americans got away with because you literally did it to spanish niggers and mexicans.
well, could be worse, we could all be mobility scooter bound balls of lard, ohhhh wait.

>>126882633
>just provoke Germany
Kek, yeah, "provoke" by refusing to give him part of our land and then get fucked anyway, like Czechcucks did?

>Thieves
Friendly reminder that Germans occupying Poland stole hundreds of pieces of art, paintings, furnitures, money and other historical treasures, most of which were never returned. They also never paid us war reparations for all the damage they've done.

Give them back, you filthy thieves.

>>126880332
>99/100 geen vloeiend duits
Laat me raden, jij woont niet in het oosten van Nederland.

>>126883085
>steal land and put things on it
>land gets taken back and the things with it
>WAAAAAH THIEF
toilet cleaners everyone

>>126883085
fuck you bitch, friendly reminder poland stole whole prussia, filthy poles stole the house of my grandma and dont even let her in for a last visit after the war.

>>126882928

There will always be an England (to invade).

>>126868641
most strong germans died in the war.
that and many of today's germans are rape babies born of anglo, american, and russian seed.
Germans as we know them historically have just about ceased to exist today.

>>126867588
My Grandpa served in Italy.
He was sent back home after being wounded in Monte Cassino.
He told me about his squad lowering a flak-gun and using it against burger infantry.

>>126867740
>Ich wusste von nichts

>>126879386
Based. We are not trustworthy, we are just waiting for our next chance to clean the world with blood and fire.

>>126882633
I can agree on that. Britain was clearly out for this and so was France but France couldn't do jack shit by themselves. But some seem to claim Poland gassed 6,000,000 ethnic Germans and so forth and it's just ridiculous. Ultimately they should have just let you and Poland sort it among yourselves

>>126883328
I'm Scottish.
I couldn't give a fuck what happens to England, I hate the cunts.

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>>126883085
here, you dropped this

My maternal grandfather was from the Sudetenland and served as a paratrooper in France. Almost died when the allies bombed the airport he was stationed at. He was an old-school catholic and never talked much about politics. He was really more religious than political.

I also had a great uncle who was provisional commander of the Baltic Fleet in 1945 (a position then without much authority). Got shelled to death when the Soviets entered Berlin.

>>126871697
I had a relative in the SS Wiking if I recall correctly. My family says he was in the reserves and never saw combat, but that might not be true since they seem like they don't want to mention the times or the SS at all.

>>126882293
I want to lecture Philosophy at a german university. Young fertile minds, all mine for 3-6 hours per week. Can you imagine how many redpills can be subtly fed? I want to do my part by helping to grow the minds of our youth.

>>126882880
>every party has done bad things
>Objective truth
Objective truth is that Germans, Soviets and Japs were the biggest criminals of this war.

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>>126882908
Your own article tells me that Hermann Göring gave the orders to destroy our cities. The plan was (following another team of researchers in the same article) to destroy and kill as much as possible.

>>126883085

Your Countymen stole more than enough from us.
We should occupy you again to be even. Also a big part of Poland is still Russia and you even stole our Land after the war. The Russians pushed you to the west and took your east.

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>>126883229
>>126883224
It's best to disgregard some Polish posters most of them post Garbage there is a small minority that post some Gems but it's a minority and 90 percent of posts from them are how they are so great being independent while having one of the highest EU approval rates but i guess thats what happens when the Population consists of lazy people that want more and more gibs from Territory to Reparations to EU money

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>>126883353
Yeah Im sure Merkel will fuck us up. All of us.

>>126867588
My Grandfather went to an arbeitslager in Germany where he had to work. He hated Germans but admitted they were very civil for 90% of the war. I know stories from czech people about the communists behaviour there that was just on a whole other level. But then again Heydrich misbehaved in the east quite a bit.

>>126883572
>destroy and kill as much as possible
So why didn't they?

>>126882566
If you can show that you have German blood and nationality you always can get citizenship. It's not related to historical stuff. If both your parents were German it ought to be easy af

>>126883502
Nope the criminals are France,Britain and Poland for starting the war. Germany never wanted WW2 this is fact.

>>126883224
>>126883229
Prussians were thieves too, as they stole Polish lands in 1795 during partitions. Germans had NO right to these lands.

They earlier actually murdered the native Baltic tribes of Prussians before they became "prussians" themselves.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_looting_of_Poland

Proofs that Germans are filthy thieves and savages.

Return our stolen art and treasures, scum.

Grandmother was a yuuuuge national socialist. Kept raving about the NS times how good everything was until the Jews ruined it.

She was right. Based Oma

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>>126880120
This
Erik Hazelhoff Roefzema, hoezee!

>>126868641
>grandson is a weebfag
your grandpa would personally gas you

>>126883416

Nice. Do you support Scottish independence?

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>>126883785
They succeed quite well. They built an entire city on top of the remains (which was just that curch)

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pretty sad that my great grandparents fought on the wrong side of the war, at least they only fought in the pacific theatre and never actually killed a German

>tfw own a katana
>tfw its not because Im a weeaboo
>tfw it was given to me by my great grandpa who took i from a jap officer he killed


he would probably be rolling in his grave if he knew I watched japanese cartoons. Im sorry great grandpa

My grandfather was a 15 year old and meant to defend berlin on the invasion.
He was given a panzerfaust and knife and told to wait in a nearby forest on his own.

His brother was a high positioned radioman of hitler and the second one overseer in an eastern concentration camp. He never talked about the past though.

My grandmother was living in territory that was given to czech and had to hide when the war was over. Her friends had to smuggle food and they found her after several months, luckily she was allowed to escape and just leave everything she owns behind

>>126873233
F

>>126883829
Lies. See >>126881764

>>126883638
Kek, what did we "steal" from you? You savages were constantly stealing our lands since early middle ages. First polabian slavs, then prussians, pomeranians, Silesia, finally Gdańsk and Poznań.

Germans were the biggest thieves in middle Europe, and yet they have balls to call US thieves after we took back the land they stole.

>>126867588
>88

problem is they are redpilled, but not like you imagine

but like there is the jewish agenda we see in all those documentaries ect and they simply believe they are evil....

>>126867588
My great granny lived trough both World Wars, according to her WW1 was way worse

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>>126868641

Talk to your fellow countrymen, spread the wisdom and love.

Don't be afraid of broaching these subjects, or the Jews win.

>>126882566
Well it's unfortunate for you that the story they told you isn't true, because you'd have a definite right to return.
To qualify as 'Statusdeutscher' you have to prove German heritage, influence in the way you were raised and speak the language, that gives you an easy way to citizenship.

>>126884134
But put "destroying & killing as much as possible" in Third-Reich's perspective... 1 city?

>>126883670
I'm glad that Germany is becoming Turkey 2.0 soon, Turks had actually proven to be more civilized than Germans over course of history.

>>126884436
One city the first day: they planned to go after Amsterdam, Utrecht and The Hague... Holland surrendered so Goering spared his artillery

> We surrendered within 12 hours (fastest recorded in war-history)

>>126872031
>but I think that Merkel can provide us a much-needed stability.
dude

>>126884308
Hitler allied stalin in hopes Britain would not attack Germany for polands refusal. Doesnt matter what your opinion is poland attacked ethnic Germans first just like czechs did to ethnic germans there.
Poland is an accessory to WW2 you would rather have war than let germany rule. All past empires are to blame here. I hate Britain the most fuck them for luring USA into their control schemes.

>>126884071
Yeah all the way. Support Independence inside the EU.
My German blood probably drives that a bit.

>>126873233
S

>>126884478
Yeah i know that you Mongols have a fetish of your relatives Raping people It's gonna be fun when the Money flow dries up to Pooland and the Russians will reduce your last iq points from double digits to single digit

>>126880934
how can catholics like jews if they say that Jesus is not a messiah and he is burning in boiling excrement in hell?