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Protestants were a mistake.

The only acceptable versions of Christianity are Orthodoxy and Transitional Latin Catholicism.
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Needing a middleman to follow god.
> Get a load of this guy.jpg
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What a load of crap, I was Raised Orthodox and who are you to say who God (Christ) excepts?! In reality the The Roman Empire usurped the Christian movement and mingled it with Pagan and other cultures to bring the populous under one rule, controlling the population through religious fear.
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>>126622464
Amen, brother.
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>>126623161
Fuck Catholicism, it is why America has freedom of religion
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>>126623161
>Needing a middleman to follow god
Are you talking about Jesus or Peter?
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>>126622464
Why not none?

Emulate the christ and keep the details to your fucking self, weirdo.

Tableflips in the market or GTFO.
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What about New Zealand Ecumenical Mormonism?
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>>126622464
Many Baptists and Presbyterians branches are based.
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The Pope (any pope), as a New Testament Christian “pastor” (1 Tim. 3:1-7), is a miserable, pitiful, blasphemous joke. Simon Peter was mar ried (1 Cor. 9:5), and had a mother-in-law (Matt. 8:14). He had to be taught sound doctrine by Paul (Gal. 2), and Simon Peter would not allow any man to bow down to him (Acts 10:26). The Pope is no more “Petrine” than he is “Pauline.” He is “Caesarine.” The Catholic Church is the Fascist form of ecclesiastical “Christianity” (Marcos, Franco, Noreiga, Marcos, Batista, Charlemagne, Mussolini, Hitler, Castro, Kennedy, Lenin and Sta lin [Eastern branch], Constantine, and Mr. Freeh
[FBI, USSA]). Popes are Biblical “blanks.” They are nothing but great big, highly-publicized, wine- drinking, ecclesiastical politicians with the faces of professional actors, the hearts of ambitious dic tators, the words of experienced salesmen, and the minds of professional diplomats and professional gangsters.
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>>126622464
Sorry, while Protestantism is a fucking heresy, so are Orthodoxy and Catholicism - all of them are fucking Pauline pagans
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>>126622464
Daniel 7 says otherwise
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>>126624969
Catholics calling other Christians as heretics is somethng like a drug dealer complaining about public violence.
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>>126622464
>When protestants are the heretics and the Catholic church that sells indulgences is somehow the true faith.
This shit is why east europe left.
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>>126625116
Sorry my friend, you must have looked at my flag and ignore my post - I specifically mention Catholicucks as heretics - pretty much all nowaday churches are blasphemous since they place the thoughts of Paul of Tarsus at a higher level than the words of Jesus
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“The Queen of Heaven” (Jer. 44) is not a Catholic invention, although the Papists substituted her for the Biblical Israel in Revelation 12:1— 4. Nor is the term “father” (for a Catholic priest) a Catholic invention, nor are “vestments” or “vestrymen” (see Judg. 17:10 and 2 Kings 10:22). These are ancient terms used for the pagan orgies that gave honor to Baal (a male god) and Ashtoreth (Judg. 2:13, a female goddess). But as far as that goes, Alexander Hislop (The Two Babylons), way back in 1916, proved that the whole, godless, hellish, Catholic set up from Madonnas to “confessionals” and cardinals (and from popes and crosses to beads and candles) was of heathen origin, stemming from the worship of Nimrod, Tammuz, and Semiramis (Astarte, Ishtar, et al.). Egyptians and Babylonians (and Hindus) had “Trinities,” but one member of their “Trinity” was a FEMALE.
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>>126625233
t. anglo who doesn't know what indulgences are

protip: they don't forgive sins
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>>126622464
>American
Hello Pedro

Fuck (((Christianity)))
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>>126622464
Take this shit to >>>/x/
Fucking retards
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>>126622464
Guess how I know you're a Catholic and not Orthodox?
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>>126625810
t. Anglo bagan
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>>126625930
European pagans>Shitskins
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>>126625913
Because all American/Western "Orthodox" are edgy LARPers.
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>>126622464
The Protestant Revolution is the root of many, many evils currently dominating society

Capitalism is a product of the protestants
Blacks in America = Protestants
Gay liberal churches = Protestants
Jewish domination of America and Europe = Protestants
Millions of dead white Europeans = caused by Protestant wars of religion
Revolutionary spirit = Protestants

Protestants are the scourge of humanity
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>>126622464
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>>126626185
>Blame things done by Jews on protestants
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>>126624824
And yet jesus gave him the keys to the kingdom of heaven and authority to loose what he wills on earth and heaven
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>>126625951
>catholic accidentally admits he browses iFunny and deleted his post in shame
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>>126622464
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>>126626421
Protestants are basically Christian Jews

American Protestants are the biggest Jewish bootlickers of all time

Why do you think he's wearing a little cap crying at a jew wall today? fucking prots
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>>126626095
Well, yes, that, but also because Orthodox treat Catholics the same way Catholics treat Protestants, and would never say that Catholicism is an "acceptable" form of Christianity.
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>>126622464
Protestantism is a heresy that will fracture itself into oblivion now it has lost state power just like arianism or gnosticism. The catholic church now has more people attending sunday mass than church of england does in the uk.
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>>126625701
>t. Catholiccuck justifying bishops making money from people afriad of going to hell by offering cash indulgences to cover for sins
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>>126626611
I can see why someone would think that TODAY, but then? Even now? Catholics have always been comprimised. They've always had the kikes in the shadows taking money and subverting people.
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>>126622464
sand religions should stay in the desert.

we must go deeper.
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>>126626878
>increasingly nervous Catholic claiming Protestantism will disappear
Yeah, good luck with that one. You're already losing ground in Latin America.
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>The Catholic Church has always condemned abortion as a grave evil.
made me hmm
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>>126626954
MUH INDULGENCES
MUH 95 THESES
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>>126626968
Catholic church has remained indepedent of all state powers for 1500 years with its own state territory. Even orthodoxy has always been subjected to state powers. Tell me again how such an independent organisation is compromised.
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>>126626878
It would be even better if the Pope could just get rid of Vatican II

The American Catholic Mass is so casual its disgusting. Finding a traditional Latin Mass is a huge privilege

Novus Ordo Mass
>the worst signing of all time
>effeminate priests
>women in positions of power
>everyone dresses like shit
>all the beautiful ceremony removed
>inside looks like a Protestant mega church

Latin Mass
>Everything is fucking perfect and as God would have wanted it

Really no comparison
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>>126627229
You do realize it's only fagtard lapsed Catholics who support that shit right? The Church has always stood against the evil of murder in the womb as well as fag/dyke marriage and penis bags that prevent semen from entering the vagina.
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>>126627297
Enjoy surrendering all your money in tithes and indulgences to obese bishops who can't even read the bible themselves
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>>126627229
>Having Evangelic protestants as a sparate category from protestants
>Not doing so for catholic Jesuites or sth

Please don't just select a subgroup that fits your agenda, heretic
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>>126627325
Vatican 2 is pretty irrelevant all too fluffy to matter. Look at all catholic dogma which is the only thing that matters. Is there anything in there that is cucked because i can't find anything
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>>126626751
Why though? I tolerate the Orthodox Church.
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>>126627759
Ecumenism is on the cards when francis dies.
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>>126627325
Vatican II is an ecumenical council. It's not so much the II Vatican Council that fucked shit up, but rather all the hype around it created by some of the modernist clergy in the Church who ended up fucking shit up. In fact, much of the modernist clergy was responsible for the sexual abuse that happened in the 80's.
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>>126627759
>I tolerate heterosexuals
>t. Gay
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>>126627986
D-Do you tolerate me?
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>>126627603
>>126627584
>#notAllCatholics
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>>126628111
FUCK YOU IM NOT GAY
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Jesus is a human bean and a prophet, not a god or deity.
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>>126627695
The first problem is that the priest is facing the people and not God at the altar...which is just disrespectful

Women should have their heads covered in church

Having lay people hand out communion is really not appropriate at all...are they free of all sin?

Communion in the hand is another terrible thing

Then you have the modern meme that all Christians are brothers in Christ...I get it...they believe in Jesus...but we have nothing to learn from Protestants if we truly are the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church

Its like the Catholic Church tries to reinvent the wheel to appeal to modern masses...but they basically created a shitty Catholic lite version that seems more like Protestantism

Vatican II has also seen the number of priests, monks and nuns drop dramatically...which is no surprise because no one takes their faith seriously anymore

The modern Catholic Church is just an old woman's club. What self respecting American man is going to sacrifice his entire life for that?

Protip its basically no one...

Except for beta losers and random foreigners who get sent to America because we are running out of priests
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>>126626185
I've only seen catholics doing the gay shit yet you fags always blame the protestants.
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>>126627589
You're fucking retarded. Indulgences haven't been actively sold since the time of your false prophet, Martin Luther. The Church considers the selling of indulgences an abuse and it was condemned in the Council of Trent (1545-1563), Sess. 25, Decree on Indulgences.
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>>126628566
If the pope had balls he would have excommunicated all the pedo priests and then had the Swiss Guard burn them alive on live TV

Gay people have no business being priests

And pedo priests should die
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>>126628443
>t. Mohammed
Thanks for your input heretic.
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>>126628734
It went on for fucking ages, centuries when the catholics had total control over christian europe. The church would've let it gone on had they not been threatened by the protestants. Fuck off papist.
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>>126628557
Maybe you should try being a Christian.
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>>126628566
speaking of gay, how come the church provides sanctuary for pedophile priest
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>>126628867
Too bad Benedict XVI was pressured out by the liberals in the Vatican. Now we have cuck Francis.
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>>126622464
>Transitional Latin Catholicism
No
Orthodoxy or bust
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>>126629020
No I love the Catholic Church

But like everyone on /pol/ I am just a conservative

I hate the liberal direction the church has taken

Our generation's struggle is to return to sacred tradition

And we will
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>>126622464
The only acceptable Christian is a dead Christian.
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>>126629137
PAY DEBNTS
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>>126622464
Southern Baptist here, pretty comfy. What the bible says we do, we do that. What it does not say we do, we do not do that. Very conservative & not overly legalistic .....
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>>126629137
Of course you would fucking say that.
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>>126629238
>dat edge

Have fun with that angsty phase
puberty is a bitch
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>>126622464
It is not a mistake.
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>>126629309
Great joke /b/ro!
Did you come up with that yourself?
Liked & Subscribed!
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>>126629473
>money is a symbol of God's love

LEL
E
L

Good thing northern europe is atheist and will soon begin to burn
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>>126629329
I have questions about your church. What makes it stand out? Why "Southern Baptist"? Are there no Northern Baptists?
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>>126628995
You're a fucking idiot, the abused started primarily in the middle ages among some clergy and the Fourth Lateran Council even tried to suppress them.
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>>126623583
Blasphemy! Jesus is God. Shit Theology Catholic.
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>>126628557
It's all temporary. Conservatism will and is winning out in the church. As long as francis doesn't say anything gay ex cathedra or dogma isnt added to support the jews, we are fine.

That being said be the change you want within the church on a grassroots level. Talk to your priest and bishop
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>>126629571
>Orthodoxy

Don't you mean the Holy Church of the KBG?

Muh Beards
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>>126629329
Protestantism is the shit stain of Christianity.
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>>126622464
I was with you right up until and
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>>126629928
I mean the Eastern Orthodox Church, which includes countries that weren't in the Soviet or even Communist sphere of influence
>American education
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>>126629911
/pol/ should start a movement within the church that demands the Latin Mass be said at every Catholic Church at least once a week
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>>126630138
you didn't specify odysseus
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>>126629789
But they couldn't, it was rampant all over the catholic world and the protestant revolution was what was needed to curb it. It was a symptom of having ridiculous power being granted to religious figureheads.
>Abuse becomes widespread by the middle ages
>Only stops when the protestants appear
>Try to argue that its not the fault of the catholics somehow
We are the cure to the sickness in Rome
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>>126629473
>Muh capitalist work ethic
Jesus tells you to gtfo of the temple you mammon worshippers.
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>>126630299
Why should I specify you fucking dumbass
When I say Orthodoxy I mean Orthodoxy, not just the Russian Orthodox Church
I mean look at my flag ffs
If you're going to critize my faith it should at least be on my country's church
But you can't even point me in a map, can you?
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>>126630138
How good can orthodoxy be if it can't even be a bulwark against communism? Garbage tier.
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>>126625639

>was of heathen origin, stemming from the worship of Nimrod, Tammuz, and Semiramis (Astarte, Ishtar, et al.). Egyptians and Babylonians (and Hindus) had “Trinities,” but one member of their “Trinity” was a FEMALE.

Source please? Interested to read
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>>126630167
I could go for that in catholic generals. My parish priest is savage on theology and loves tradition. We do latin mass twice a week one of which is tridentine. I'm getting heavily involved in making the music better although could probably have help with what is liturgically correct and traditional
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>>126630563
Can anyone find you on a map?
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>>126630563
I'll be honest I don't really give a shit about Orthodox because you don't exist in the USA

We are more similar than we are different

But for historical reasons I feel like I am obligated to insult you and call you a heretic

TOOT TOOT
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>>126630868
Yes I can
>>126630818
Thank the Jews for targeting the only correct Christianity
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>>126622464

http://blessyahowah.com/index.html
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>>126630319
I am not defending the abuse. Yes it happened. But it was always considered abuse. The Protestants went too far and hailed Martin Luther as their prophet discarding central doctrines of Christianity and introducing heresy that never had any basis in the Church.
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>>126630951
>But for historical reasons I feel like I am obligated to insult you and call you a heretic
Same but for theological reasons
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>>126630865
Thats awesome

Im bummed because I just got a new job and I'll have to move...which means new church.

I've checked the areas and there are really no Latin Masses.

There is an SSPV church within 1 hour drive...but Im worried that I'll be in trouble for going to their church.
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>>126626095
Shit.

Should I leave the Orthodox church then?

What should I say "sorry i don't want to be a larper"?
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>>126630563
I love orthodoxy but i know the catholics are right and the orthodox are wrong because of their stance on loans. Orthodox outright ban all interest whereas catholics only ban extortionate interest. This is crucial because the biggest mistake the catholic church made before was banning all interest too which gave jews a monopoly on finance and allowed them to dominate the world through central banking. Oh that and peter was clearly given divine authority as the proto apostle not just administrative.
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>>126631610
Yeah if Peter's Church was all great and mighty, why did it take them 1000 years to attempt to assert their supposed authority over the other patriarchates?
FIRST AMONG EQUALS
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>>126631101
The reformation was also based on ideas on how christianity should actually be practiced. Jesus lived amongst beggars and thieves, he didn't surround himself in luxury, you don't need churches to be adorned with multi-million decorations to worship god. Bishops didn't need to be paid 100x what the village peasant would earn in a year through tithes.
The whole thing wasn't just based on indulgences, there were many long-running criticisms in how the catholic church operated. In any case, it was a good thing for the catholic church in some aspects, at it forced them to reform the way catholic christianity was practiced.
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>>126631610
Yeah but isn't usury in all forms degenerate?

Thats why Leo XIII advocated corporatism

I think I agree more with the Orthodox on this

E Michael Jones talks a lot about this in his books
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>>126631946
Protestants wanted to be in communion with the Orthodox, but when they sent letters to the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Costantinople, he just told the heretics to fuck off
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>>126631610
Eastern Orthodox also allow divorce and men to wear penis bags around their cocks so as to prevent pregnancy during sex.
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>>126631212
I think you should prioritise being in communion with rome. By all means go to sspv if your priest doesn't mind but it is better to work within the church on a grassroots level for change than to splinter off like the protestants
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>>126622464
>having a religion with pagan roots
You the real goyim
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>>126632244
You're only allowed to get married 3 times and even then, it's highly frowned to even get married a third time
>penis bags around their cocks
What?
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>>126622464
My background is Huguenot. I have a frog surname. My dad (rip) tracked the family tree on the male line back to Clermnd-Ferrand in central France.
Sometime back, my ancestors were persecuted by Catholics. In the 1600s. So some of them went to the Netherlands, some to South Africa and some to England.
Regarding religion, I'm high church Anglican. It's similar to Orthodox faith. We do not recognise the Pope as an intermediary like the Catholics. But we share many rituals.
>a tradition within the Anglican Church emphasizing ritual, priestly authority, sacraments, and historical continuity with Catholic Christianity.

It's good to know my background. My dad mapped the male line on a huge piece of paper. My mum has it. The female line is almost impossible to trace as the surname changes on marriage.

Pic is my church.
Whatever your denomination, we are brothers and sisters in Christ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-J2kuSCLvE

God bless you.
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>>126631931
St Cyprian said in the 300s that rome had authority over the other patriarchates. The bishops usually called upon rome to settle disputes between patriarchs. The tradition is long standing. Indeed he is first among equals but that is a divine appointment not administrative.
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>>126623215
Source? I have never found that arugement to be true. The emperor was not a theologian and did not have the time to control it when fighting wars and poltical oppotents.
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>>126631946
Muhammadanism was also based around the idea on how Christianity and Judaism should have been originally practiced. So was Mormonism. That is the trend among so many false religions. "Returning" to what the "original" religion was like in their gay interpretation.

And actually yes, we do need Churches adorned with much splendor because Christ himself becomes present. Sorry, real Christians like to worship God in all of his glory instead of jumping around having fucking seizures like we're possessed by Satan or some bull shit.
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>>126632720
keyword: equals
The Church of Rome is not the absolute authority of Christianity
also pic
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>>126632661
I'll give props to any Christian faith that is traditional and resits the degeneracy of the modern age
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>>126632578
>You're only allowed to get married 3 times
Getting remarried even once is to be considered adultery and is a mortal sin
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>>126631969
Charging interest on loans is crucial for calculating risk in investments. Without interest no one gives out loans and without loans investment massively stagnates. Just think you wouldn't be able to get a mortgage or raise capital for a business idea. What is degenerate is preying on people charging extortionate interest and forcing them into debt slavery.
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>>126632204
Probably because they had created a new religion with muh sola scriptura and muh sola fides
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>>126632873
>Quakers
Real christians don't need material possesions to worship god. Enjoy your three weeks and 50 different war dance ceremonies in order to finish your prayer topped off by the holy raising of the 30 silver tax-free candlesticks.
Enjoy defending the most corrupt christian doctrine to have ever stained the face of Europe
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>>126632950
Give a real source though
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>>126623390

>it's the amerifat justifies his country being the leading exporter of satanism, pornography and every degeneracy under the sun episode
it's actually an accurate depiction of Protestantism
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>>126622464

Catholics go to Hell. In fact, there is a special place in Hell for those who practice Idolatry
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>>126633629
First stage: Denial
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>>126633123
This. They let remarried and divorce partake of Christ himself in the Eucharist!!!
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>>126632950
Indeed but it is the head and should have the final say whilst also being checked by all other bishops just like peter was
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>>126629137
Othrodoxes h thantos
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>>126626185
This guy gets it
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>>126633314
Shouldn't loans instead be a form of charity?

The Catholic Church once defined usury as any rate of interest over zero.

Economic development shouldn't necessarily be a priority.

Look at how fucked up the world is today? We live in societies that are totally disconnected from nature and unnatural. Its all an offshoot from rampant usury and capitalism

Usury and capitalism are the forces that gave England its massive empire. All the ill gotten gains fueled uncontrollable expansion and conflict

Usury is one of the greatest evils in the world

Corporatist economics can reverse this trend
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>>126633863
Protestants go to hell. There is a special place in hell for those who worship Martin Luther and the Bible rather than God alone and who also believe in a false gospel preached by the false prophet Martin Luther.
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>>126624824
spot on post.
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>>126633943
But noooooooooo you couldn't be content with that could you
Now one is a heretic and the other is Christian
Sad!
>>126634067
Ορθοδοξία ή θάνατος
Orthodoxia i thanatos
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>>126631946
Meanwhile the Reformers contradict the early christians
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>>126622464
>The only acceptable versions of Christianity are Orthodoxy and Transitional Latin Catholicism.
What of the other church traditions in communion with Rome, like the Maronites?
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>>126634379
Protestantism contradicts the early church fathers

Prove me wrong
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>>126634143
Interest on loans should be non obligational whereas the principal should be obligational to pay back. We live in such a corrupt world today because the jews were the only people who could charge interest thus dominated finance and thus the world and are now corrupting it to bring about the antichrist. The catholic church was wrong to class all interest as usury before and has now rectified that error despite the damage already being done
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>>126634554
Maronites are in full communion with the Pope and have existed since before the reformation you dumbass
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Protestant logic creates endless amounts of division.

Ultimately, all Protestants must accept other Protestant groups because everything depends on their interpretation of scripture.

There is no overarching guiding light...its all up to men and can therefore change.

I understand being Orthodox

But I cannot grasp Protestant logic

You are just following a trend that can easily be changed based on the will of some random pastor
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>>126623390
Freedom of religion is why there are so many batshit insane sects in the US like Mormons as well as Jews.

Fucking kike lover.
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>>126632308
How does that disprove chrisanity.
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>>126634819
You stupid greek moron read my post again
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>>126624824
Why do Protestants always bear false witness?
The Acts quotation is not about bowing, but about worshipping. Worshipping the Pope is not appropriate.
Furthermore, nobody said the Pope is always infallible, so it makes sense if he was once corrected by Paul.
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>>126634213
The papacy is content with that. It's the orthodox who refuse to accept the ontological supremacy of rome and just see it as administrative supremacy when it quite clearly was divinely granted
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>>126626058
t. Larper
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King James only Independent Baptist -Everthing else is the bastard child of (((Catholicism)))
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>>126634935
>i can't understand why some people disapprove of rampant corruption
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>>126632661
hats off to you. Huguenot is an enviable and honorable identity and it's good that you're proud of it.
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The western church is dead and has been on the wrong path since the schism, the true spirit of western christianity is preserved in the western rite orthodox parishes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p6J-bQekuk&t
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As someone raised Protestant, I fully agree. The utterly laughable rates of religiosity in Protestant countries is proof enough, but there's also all the continued use of Catholic traditions that were supposedly all discarded a long time ago.
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>>126635053
You read your fucking post again dumbass
>>126635136
But it's in no way a "supremacy"
First among equals
Even considering it supremacy goes against what we're talking about
Not to mention "papal primacy" and all the crap like that you mixed in
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>>126633863
They let remarried but not divorce to partake. If a divorce person takes the eucharist you cannot blame the church because tye preist cant know withiut him ot her telling the preist.
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>>126635218
https://youtu.be/OTAz7XIUy_0
Here's a good video on the topic from the based Pastor Anderson. Everyone should check out his other videos too.
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>>126622464
>Kill all non-Christian Christians!

>Unify under Christ but not their Christ!

>Paganism is dead and those Christians are Pagans!

>The white race can only be saved by embracing a moral Godhead but not that version!

>You are an atheist who wears a stupid hat! But that's OK because you can be saved, unlike Christians who worship the anti-Christ!

>Russian KGB Christians are less degenerate than Catholic Marxist Christians!

>Protestants and not formal Christians and Jesus was a member of the Holy Roman Church!

Yeah, this will help you... This will help guide the world.
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>>126635457
Protestantism is corruption of doctrine
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>>126635117
The Pope is only infallible in regards to doctrine and morals ex cathedra. The Pope can have a wide variety of opinions on other things that are not infallible. Popes can also hold to heresy themselves and thus technically be heretical but they are preserved by the Holy Spirit from pronouncing it ex cathedra.
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>>126634765
The Jews did this yes but Protestants willingly let them into their countries and protected them

Jewish finance is what led to the power of your nation's empire

Your jewish money is what gave you the edge over the Spanish and the French

Do you have any reading about the church's stance on usury?

Because I still like the zero toleration policy better. I think anything else just leads to a slippery slope
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>>126622464
Orthodox is not acceptable either, Catholic is the only way as it is the true original church which embraces and follows the message of Christ completely.
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Παντού Έλληνες, τι γίνεται ρε πστη μ? Χοαχοα
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>>126634213
Ευχαριστώ παρα πολι. Im a greek also my family is from laconia
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>>126635604
I said proddies CONTRASICT the early Cjurch fathers

Retard

EVERY NIGHT GREEK WOMEN FUCK TURK COCK
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>>126635457
Christ wanted a united Church; you're whining about ''''corruption'' giving no concrete examples. Furthermore, denying any possibility of reform. Explain why you are trying to murder the Bride of Christ.
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Islam claims to speak for the god of Abraham. The name of Islam's god is Allah, and Allah is nothing more than the alter ego of Muhammad, one of the most detestable creatures ever to walk the earth. Read Craig Winn's "Prophet of Doom" if you want to know and understand the criminal enterprise that is Islam (Mohammedanism).
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>>126635900
have you ever heard of pope leo x (aka (((Giovanni di Lorenzo de' Medici)))) in your life
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>>126635988
Your women are whores
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>>126635604
But it is. In orthodox theology a bishop is merely first among equals with his presbyters. Yet no one doubts the bishop has supremacy or primacy. The seat of peter is first among equals of all bishops and just like a bishop has supremacy over priests the pope has supremacy over all bishops. To deny the pope has supremacy would also deny bishops have supremacy over priests
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>>126634935
Agreed luther refuses protestants to fight the turks because it woukd offend god for siding with the papacy
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>>126636117
Tell me when protestants accept this
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>>126622464
Catholic Church was and is still corrupt. They have diverged indefinitely from The Bible. I do not see them ever returning to the pure ways of Christianity. They have been infiltrated and corrupted by Satan. I feel bad for all the devout Catholics out there worshipping their false idol, the Catholic Church.
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>>126635457
>A few priests did something wrong
>Lets thrown out doctrine

Doesn't really add up

Its like saying all police officers are bad when a cop shoots a nigger and then you make the cop hand out free newport cigarettes on the block and only give traffic tickets
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>>126636069
Read the guy who you replied to, fucking Pakitard
>>126635988
Where from exactly?
>>126636289
You take it a step further and you want administrative supremacy, which was a notion so retarded 4 other patriarchates denied
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>>126636083
http://www.businessinsider.com/gods-bankers-financial-scandals-at-the-vatican-2015-2
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/vatican-arrests-ex-archbishop-jozef-wesolowski-pedophilia-charges-n210166
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/vatican_mafia.htm

i could keep going, these guys are the all-time MVPs of nepotism, corruption, and sheer fuckery. got a favorite crime? bet you i could find a pope who got off on it.
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>>126635136
Historical if that was true there would be more concuils on christ called in yhe west which they werent
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>>126635900
>Protestantism is corruption of doctrine

Isn't Catholicism a corruption of Judaism, Neoplatonism, Bacchanalian, and various others?
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>>126636556
Dumdum
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>>126636373
>diverged from the Bible

Its a good thing the Catholic Church existed before the Bible was written or was proceed in any sort of number...or before most people were capable of reading it

Im sure God wanted everyone to follow the Bible word for word before it even existed

The Catholic Church is definitely false
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>>126636353
are you so threatened by me pointing out that your church was headed by a literal orgy-loving merchant prince that you're going to spout nonsequitors? lol
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>>126636197
Ever geard of sophia dee that is from your m8s
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>>126635949
Yeah protestantism was probably funded by the jews. I don't have any readings. There is no slippery slope because the holy spirit protects against it. It was obviously god's will for the jews to dominate finance thus john's revelation would come to pass
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>>126635528
>>126635117
>>126635053
>>126634935
>>126635005
>>126634554
>>126634379
>>126634306
>>126634168
>>126628557
>>126626751
>>126626185
>>126624824
>>126624769
>>126623889
>>126632873
>. Sorry, real Christians

>Kill all non-Christian Christians!

>Unify under Christ but not their Christ!

>Paganism is dead and those Christians are Pagans!

>The white race can only be saved by embracing a moral Godhead but not that version!

>You are an atheist who wears a stupid hat! But that's OK because you can be saved, unlike Christians who worship the anti-Christ!

>Russian KGB Christians are less degenerate than Catholic Marxist Christians!

>Protestants and not formal Christians and Jesus was a member of the Holy Roman Church!

Yeah, this will help you... This will help guide the world.
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>>126636734
Tell me when protestantism stop contradicting the early cjristians
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>>126636794
Catholics wrote the New Testament and the Catholic Church put together the biblical canon. Protestants are retarded. They try to use our book against us when they barely understand any of it.
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>>126636823
>I hate the early christians
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>>126636556
Near sparta my papous dad comes ftom argos
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>>126636556
No the orthodox already accept administrative supremacy. Look at the 2007 council of ravenna. They just don't think it is ontological supremacy
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>>126637137
Good, there are many that are awful around these parts but those guys are not
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>>126636794
The separate books of The Bible preceded The Bible, fool.

The Catholic Church grossly goes against the direct teachings of Christ. If you are a devout Catholic, enjoy the prison of hell that awaits you.
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>>126622464
Wrong. The only acceptable christianity is no christianity. Religion is for medieval dummies.
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>>126636669
What?
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>>126637344
Meanwhile in early christianity

"Those, therefore, who desert the preaching of the Church, call in question the knowledge of the holy Priests, not taking into consideration of how much greater consequence is a religious man, even in a private station, than a blasphemous and impudent sophist. Now, such are all the heretics, and those who imagine that they have hit upon something more beyond the truth, so that by following those things already mentioned, proceeding on their way variously, inharmoniously, and foolishly, not keeping always to the same opinions with regard to the same things, as blind men are led by the blind, they shall deservedly fall into the ditch of ignorance lying in their path, ever seeking and never finding out the truth. It behoves us, therefore, to avoid their doctrines, and to take careful heed lest we suffer any injury from them; but to flee to the Church, and be brought up in her bosom, and be nourished with the Lord’s Scriptures. For the Church has been planted as a garden in this world; therefore says the Spirit of God, 'Thou mayest freely eat from every tree of the garden' that is, Eat ye from every Scripture of the Lord; but ye shall not eat with an uplifted mind, nor touch any heretical discord." - AH, 5, 20, 2
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>>126629874
This. Jesus is God himself.

The only mission of the Catholic Church is to control other people.

Protestant countries encourage people to actually read the Bible, that's why they have lower levels of illiteracy.
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>>126637344
t. tuck buckford
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>>126637058
>The Catholic Church was good once.

I don't think you understand how "corruption" works.
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>>126637101
are you having a melt-down? who are you responding to?
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>>126637344
>the bible magically fell from the sky
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>>126637328
>The Declaration of Ravenna is a Roman Catholic–Eastern Orthodox document issued on 13 October 2007,[1] re-asserting that the bishop of Rome is indeed the Protos, although future discussions are to be held on the concrete ecclesiological exercise of papal primacy. The document was issued at the tenth plenary session of the Joint International Commission for Theological Dialogue Between the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church held from 8 to 14 October 2007 in Ravenna, Italy.[1]
>protos
>protos is Greek for first
>first among equals

>although future discussions are to be held on the concrete ecclesiological exercise of papal primacy
>papal primacy
>aka a sham
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>>126637592
>I hate the Churxh fathers
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>>126622464
Mormons
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>>126633122
Degeneracy is a perception.
Philosophically, it's entropy- the tendency for things to disintegrate over time.
(it's more complicated, for sure) If a drop a plate on the floor, it breaks.
That's one of the reasons we have religion. As humans, we seek to prevent this decay; entropy.
But try as we must, we can't stop it. It's the human condition;.
It is God's will.

>16 Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day.
17 For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all.
18 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

2 Corinthians 4:16-18
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"Since then these things are manifest to us, and we have looked into the depths of the divine knowledge, we ought to do in order all things which the Master commanded us to perform at appointed times. He commanded us to celebrate sacrifices and services, and that it should not be thoughtlessly or disorderly, but at fixed times and hours. He has Himself fixed by His supreme will the places and persons whom He desires for these celebrations, in order that all things may be done piously according to His good pleasure, and be acceptable to His will. So then those who offer their oblations at the appointed seasons are acceptable and blessed, but they follow the laws of the Master and do not sin. For to the high priest his proper ministrations are allotted, and to the priests the proper place has been appointed, and on Levites their proper services have been imposed. The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity."

Source: St. Clement, bishop of Rome, 80 A.D., to the Corinthians

"Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices."

Source: Letter to the Corinthians, [44,4]


Protestants hate this
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>>126637344
>Hey guys Jesus just died and came back from the dead...what should we do?
>Should we go out a preach?
>Jesus gave us some sweet advice while he was on Earth after the resurrection

No let's just sit inside and write.

But....

Dude the only thing that matters is what we are writing in this book

But Jesus laid out some traditions to follow

Write it down bitch or they don't count

>Protestant history
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>>126637344
> protestant says catholic church goes against christ
> "this is my body, this is my blood" - jesus
> protestant then says the eucharist is not really jesus
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>>126622464
What do Orthobros think about Oswald Spengler?

He predicted that as Western civilization declines in the next century, a new High Culture based on Orthodox Christianity will arise in Russia and spread across the world (I believe Seraphim Rose touched on this in Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future). Will we see a mass conversion of the West to Orthodoxy in our lifetime?

http://katehon.com/1275-oswald-spengler-and-the-soul-of-russia.html
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>>126637728
is this bong having a stroke? leo x is bad but i didn't think he was THAT bad, lol
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>"Consider how contrary to the mind of God are the heterodox in regard to the grace of God which has come to us. They have no regard for charity, none for the widow, the orphan, the oppressed, none for the man in prison, the hungry or the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, the flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead."

"Letter to the Smyrnaeans", paragraph 6. circa 80-110 A.D.

"Come together in common, one and all without exception in charity, in one faith and in one Jesus Christ, who is of the race of David according to the flesh, the son of man, and the Son of God, so that with undivided mind you may obey the bishop and the priests, and break one Bread which is the medicine of immortality and the antidote against death, enabling us to live forever in Jesus Christ."

-"Letter to the Ephesians", paragraph 20, c. 80-110 A.D.

Protestants hate him
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>>126637675
Protos means first
Primacy means first

Orthodox and catholics both agree but it is language barriers that distort.
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>>126638140
KYS proddie
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>>126637580
You're literally retarded.
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>>126636588
Sincerely, when I see some pastor quoting the OT and practizing miraculous healings in front of a camera, I sincerely believe that there should be just one church. Distorting the word of God must have a limit.
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If there are any Orthodox in this thread, are there any post-schism saints of yours that have had the miracle of resurrecting others from the dead attributed to them? Google only shows me pre-schism or RC saints no matter how specific my keywords are.
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I love the mental gymnastics Catholics play when The Bible clearly admonishes practices taken up by the church. Keep believing in your false idols.
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>>126622464
Catholics will never understand they've been played. Look at Francis, he's not pope material.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxo0yqHqCt0&t=1s
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>>126638076

> Romans 14:6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.
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>>126638384
and when the vatican launders money for drug cartels and covers up the molestation of tens of thousands of children, is that like less aesthetically offensive to you or something? what are your fucking priorities?
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>>126638496
I love the mental gymnastics protestants use in thinking they are christian.
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>>126638521
"This food we call the Eucharist, of which no one is allowed to partake except one who believes that the things we teach are true, and has received the washing for forgiveness of sins and for rebirth, and who lives as Christ handed down to us. For we do not receive these things as common bread or common drink; but as Jesus Christ our Savior being incarnate by God's Word took flesh and blood for our salvation, so also we have been taught that the food consecrated by the Word of prayer which comes from him, from which our flesh and blood are nourished by transformation, is the flesh and blood of that incarnate Jesus."

"First Apology", Ch. 66, inter A.D. 148-155.


Protestants can never understand how false they are

This is one of many evidence
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>>126638333
>mfw papists call christians "protestants"
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>>126622464
Except the Orthodox accept Divorce.

They are and forever shall remain schismatics and heretics.
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>>126622464
We actually belive in God
http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/belief-in-god/

kys faggot
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>>126638496
>it clearly admonishes

It clearly doesn't and never will
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>>126638719
You lie without evidence
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>>126638678
???
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Reminder catholics are a bunch of child-molesting cronies that love sucking arab cocks, while supporting the murder of 1:5 pregnancies.
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>>126638800
True Christians just read believe in God, accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior, and read The Bible.

This and this alone arms me with the knowledge to see the Catholic Church as a gross blemish upon the Earth pretending to be a holy thing.
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>>126622464
Catholicism and orthodoxy are romanized false Christianity and not the legitimate successors of Christs apostles and the early church
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>>126636588
Outrageous anti-Catholic bias. They should absolutely be ashamed of themselves.
>1. Making money directly off the murder of Jews during the Holocaust
An insurance company they invested in insured some Jews.
The Catholic Church saved hundreds of Jewish lives, was persecuted by the Nazis, and condemned the Nazis. So the website is lying.

2. Trying to buy fake securities from a Mafia-linked counterfeit ring
No wrong-doing proved; seems like nothing was known about it. Did they even know the securities were faked?

3. Using $5 million to cover up monks who were squandering donations
Ordered by the Vatican to give things back. Individual monks responsible. Money was used to stop the news getting out probably because of people like this, who pile on the Church.

4. Smugging gold into Poland to overthrow the communist regime
Rather based. Communists persecuted the Church

5. Laundering money for the Mafia and other Italian elite
They are reporting on rumour. Later some individual wrong-doing.

None of this proves anything serious about the Church. The writer is probably an atheist.
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>>126638719
Meanwhile in reality

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iuP5uOI7Xwc
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>>126638993
http://www.businessinsider.com/gods-bankers-financial-scandals-at-the-vatican-2015-2
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/vatican-arrests-ex-archbishop-jozef-wesolowski-pedophilia-charges-n210166
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/vatican_mafia.htm

more than happy to provide anything else you might like. got a favorite crime? i'll find you a pope committing it.
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>>126638077
The Russians themselves have mostly abandoned all religion for atheism and alcohol
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>>126638933
Catholicism is doing pretty good considering we're 1 billion people and not exclusive to the West
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>>126639095
Reminder that Protestants are Jew slaves and have let the kikes take over Western Civilization

Reminder that Protestant Churches are run by lesbians

Reminder that Protestants will never have any culture

Reminder that Protestants are the only reason why there are niggers in America
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>>126639194
None of the early church fathers believe in sola fide
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>>126638800
>Using 1 Corinthians to prove women shouldn't lead the church

This is fake af. During those times there were chaos in those congregations, where some women started to do fake preaches.

>>126639056
Think about the context. Don't judge those who don't eat (about the eucharist)
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>>126639433
Protestants ADBANDONED christianity
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>>126638907

>you shall know them by their fruits

Why are Catholics so degenerate? Why has the church constantly changed throughout history and contradicted itself? How many modern day Catholics would die for Christ compared to Orthodox? The true spirit of Christ lives in the middle eastern martyrs most of whom are coptic/orthodox
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>>126639248
meanwhile in reality, kid fucking is less important to you than this obnoxious video. grah, doesn't this guy just make you upset?
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>>126639176
Why don't you believe the eucharist is jesus' body when he clearly says it. Why cannot protestants answer the blatant contradictions they make
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>>126639736
>This is fake af
Read the Bible kid
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>>126636069
>calls himself a follower of Christ
>acts like this to other Christians
>acts like this at all
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>>126639815
>I hate the truth
>I like scamming
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>>126637458
Only dummies like you wouod belive that the medieval works was based on narratives go find the turth of the time period
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>>126639736
none of the early Christians believe in the five solaes
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>>126639547
Most Catholics don't honestly seem to believe in God. They just do it for the community, and just join in on the community of Christian LARPers. There is something genuine missing within most Catholics.
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>>126638872
link for those who want: https://www.basilica.ca/documents/2016/10/St.%20Justin%20Martyr-The%20First%20Apology%20of%20Justin.pdf

Justin suggests creation ex materia in how God is to be served: " And we have been taught that He in the beginning did of His goodness,
for man's sake, create all things out of unformed matter"

Yet the Catholic church no longer teaches this. It has fallen victim to cultural syncretism
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>>126639949
>im literally no better than the rotherham rapists
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>>126639433
No, Westerners did.
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"So then, if the mixed cup and the manufactured bread receive the Word of God and become the Eucharist, that is to say, the Blood and Body of Christ, which fortify and build up the substance of our flesh, how can these people claim that the flesh is incapable of receiving God's gift of eternal life, when it is nourished by Christ's Blood and Body and is His member? As the blessed apostle says in his letter to the Ephesians, 'For we are members of His Body, of His flesh and of His bones' (Eph. 5:30). He is not talking about some kind of 'spiritual' and 'invisible' man, 'for a spirit does not have flesh an bones' (Lk. 24:39). No, he is talking of the organism possessed by a real human being, composed of flesh and nerves and bones. It is this which is nourished by the cup which is His Blood, and is fortified by the bread which is His Body. The stem of the vine takes root in the earth and eventually bears fruit, and 'the grain of wheat falls into the earth' (Jn. 12:24), dissolves, rises again, multiplied by the all-containing Spirit of God, and finally after skilled processing, is put to human use. These two then receive the Word of God and become the Eucharist, which is the Body and Blood of Christ."

-"Five Books on the Unmasking and Refutation of the Falsely

Named Gnosis". Book 5:2, 2-3, circa 180 A.D. "For just as the bread which comes from the earth, having received the invocation of God, is no longer ordinary bread, but the Eucharist, consisting of two realities, earthly and heavenly, so our bodies, having received the Eucharist, are no longer corruptible, because they have the hope of the resurrection."

-"Five Books on the Unmasking and Refutation of the Falsely named Gnosis". Book 4:18 4-5, circa 180 A.D.

Proddies hate this
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>>126639782
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>>126639736
>sola scripture is true except when it doesn't fit my subsect of protestantism
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>>126623390

Explains why American """""Christianity""""" is a fucking joke.
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>tfw Peter reads all your religious shit posting at the pearly gates and only lets you in if your roasts are good enough

Would you be allowed in?
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>>126622464

If we're a mistake, we're a mistake that the Roman church caused by your exploitation of the poor in selling indulgences, your breaking of the 1st commandment in the veneration of saints, and your unceasing violation of the 2nd commandment in the veneration of images of people (saints or not).

The reality is that many Roman catholics are still Catholic, but many are not. You know that folk Romanism is rife with syncretism, idolatry and magic practice (people believe that the incantations and ceremonies are magical, they do not see God). This situation is compounded, not improved, when you ponce around in robes speaking Latin.

Come to the true Catholic Church of Christ, friend. There's a reason why we remain 'Protestant' against Romanism. And our Jesus is less grumpy and foreign than that of your OP pic. ;)
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>>126640178
Protestants do the same shit and scam cash worldwide with fake miracles
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>>126639897
Gave you the historic context. You read the bible in its entirely, and you will see woman preaching in other parts of it. It's very basic to just read some parts and taking them out of context.

>https://www.gotquestions.org/women-silent-church.html

>126640358
I was talking about 1 Corinthians. Going ahead to analyze sola scriptura.
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>>126640215
The Canon is superior to your bullshit
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>>126640269
Poland and Portugal confirmed for blessed
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>>126639873
I am not a protestant.

The Protestant church predominantly began when The Catholic Church was taking bribes to forgive sins. The Catholic Church is a gross misrepresentation of what The Bible gives us. Catholics today are guilty of idol worship.
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>>126640120
Just like "Mainline Protestantism" in the post I was responding to. Wherever Christianity becomes popular it runs risk of becoming merely cultural and not something special, you know those people who only go to church on holy days or Easter and Christmas, none of this is exclusive to Catholicism
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>>126640532
that's why i'm not a protestant. i love that your excuse is "yeah but those other guys do it to". seriously, you're ok with kid-fucking just because the "protestants do the same shit"? fucking reprehensible, literal islam-tier
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>>126640467
Meanwhile in early Christianity,

Chapter 13. The funeral pile is erected

This, then, was carried into effect with greater speed than it was spoken, the multitudes immediately gathering together wood and fagots out of the shops and baths; the Jews especially, according to custom, eagerly assisting them in it. And when the funeral pile was ready, Polycarp, laying aside all his garments, and loosing his girdle, sought also to take off his sandals,— a thing he was not accustomed to do, inasmuch as every one of the faithful was always eager who should first touch his skin. For, on account of his holy life, he was, even before his martyrdom, adorned with every kind of good. Immediately then they surrounded him with those substances which had been prepared for the funeral pile. But when they were about also to fix him with nails, he said, Leave me as I am; for He that gives me strength to endure the fire, will also enable me, without your securing me by nails, to remain without moving in the pile.

Protrdtantism BTFO again
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>>126640651
>>126640358
whoops, sorry, forgot to reply you
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>>126640776
>muh idols

No Catholic worships idols

This low tier bait has been tolerated for 6 centuries and needs to stop
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>>126640776
If you are not catholic oriental orthodox or assyrian then you are protestant
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Protestantism is so ridiculous that it scared me away from religion for over a decade. Catholic and orthodox priests on youtube have helped me find God again. I still haven't decided which one to go for but I'm thinking Catholic. Because I like the mass better. Orthodox is just a little too foreign.
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>>126638872
>Religious dogma with no basis in reality
Religious debates are intangible since we are simply arguing with abstract hypotheses about spirituality. Live a noble life and care for your family and people. Honor is the only god we need.
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>>126638719
I do not try to diminish its importance. I say that in matters of faith the way in which they have gotten to distort the message is at bottom a much more harmful issue.
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>>126640686
The canon which was only known because of the same people who deny the five solaes
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>>126640924
>doesn't even cite his source
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>>126641072
Tell me when protestantism acrually is the early church
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>>126641111
How can they deny something they never heard of?
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ex-catholic atheist here, I left because of cosmology and a conversation with Jesus that left me convinced he was only inside my head
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>>126640984
When you make an image of Mary and pray to it, you are taking part in idol worship.
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>>126640467
> your breaking of the 1st commandment in the veneration of saints
> your unceasing violation of the 2nd commandment in the veneration of images of people (saints or not).
Veneration isn't worship. Mary is Blessed above all other women; why do you not respect her? Or the martyrs who died for the church that Jesus founded? Because you are too proud?

>magic practice
The Jews called Jesus a sorcerer. There is in reality no magic, only God. You are no better than a disbelieving Jew. Be ashamed.

>Come to the true Catholic Church of Christ, friend
There is no universal Church- your people murdered her.
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>>126641162
It is called the martyrdom of Polycarp

Look it up loser
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>>126641374
Their own writings prove it

Chapter 13. The funeral pile is erected

This, then, was carried into effect with greater speed than it was spoken, the multitudes immediately gathering together wood and fagots out of the shops and baths; the Jews especially, according to custom, eagerly assisting them in it. And when the funeral pile was ready, Polycarp, laying aside all his garments, and loosing his girdle, sought also to take off his sandals,— a thing he was not accustomed to do, inasmuch as every one of the faithful was always eager who should first touch his skin. For, on account of his holy life, he was, even before his martyrdom, adorned with every kind of good. Immediately then they surrounded him with those substances which had been prepared for the funeral pile. But when they were about also to fix him with nails, he said, Leave me as I am; for He that gives me strength to endure the fire, will also enable me, without your securing me by nails, to remain without moving in the pile.

POLYCARP here just destroyed solo deo gloria
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>>126641374
Because they had heard of it. Protestantism is simply old heresies rebranded that were condemned at the ecumenical councils.
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>>126641336
>acrually
And your country made our language
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>>126641434
Go back to r/atheism faggot.
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>>126622464
What about Oriental Christians?
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>>126641008
Label me whatever you want. I'm simply a Christian that believes in the Lord and readsThe Bible.

This is enough to see how the Catholic Church twists the word of the Lord and masquerades as a thing of the Lord.
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>>126641710
>I hate reality
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>>126640776
>taking bribes to forgive sins
It's for remission of punishment for temporal sins whose guilt has already been forgiven in Heaven.
Instead of having to do something else like build a Cathedral or fight in a Crusade you can pay money (and they will probably hire someone else)
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>>126641094
harmful to what? society? you don't think that having a massive, wealthy institution in your society than can shelter its members from allegations of the most disgusting crimes, might constitute a somewhat harmful influence?
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>>126641906
Love them they just need to accept chalcedon formally
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>>126641454
do you believe practitioners of black magic and satan worship have their powers of temptation magnified in a way that would exceed the normal ability of a disbeliever to lead a christian astray?
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>>126622464
Religion is a scam invented by Satan to keep us away from God. All denominations are a deception. Serve Christ, none else.
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>>126625116
>brazil
>public violence
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>>126641854
>Go back to
That's so 2016, stay mad theist cuck
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>>126641445
When you look at a picture it helps you think of that person

We don't worship paintings you retard

You have a picture of your wife on your phone and you kiss it. Do you worship your phone?

Prots are fucking autistic

>MUH IDOL WORSHIP
>MUH SOLA SCRIPTURA

Protestants are the autistic faggots of the Christian world. Too dense to have any common sense
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>>126642081
Protestantism is harmful to the brain
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>>126641434
>cosmology
Look into Cosmotheism. It's better, but really it was only made so the National Alliance could try to get tax exemption status.
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Therefore, let us not be ungrateful for His kindness. For if He were to reward us according to our works, we would cease to be (Epistle to the Magnesians, Ch. 5).


Sola Fide btfo
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>>126642158
But wait
>and on this rock I will build my church
>neither reject group worship, as ye have done
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>>126641937
If you hate catholicism then join thr orthodox communion as it is also the church created by christ. Why do uou reject the body of christ?
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>>126640191
Look at statistics for church membership and attendance. The ussr basically killed it ded.
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>>126642476
Those who profess to be Christ’s will be recognized by their actions. For what matters is not a momentary act of professing, but being persistently motivated by faith (The Letter of Ignatius to the Ephesians, ch. 14:2).
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>>126642068
Wow, you are actually defending this practice.

And how the Catholic Church denied forgiveness to people unable to pay up for their sins.

There is nothing more I can say, only God can judge you.
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>>126641470
>calls himself a Christian
>doesn't follow ANY of the teachings Christ himself taught
And I'm talking about you personally, not Catholicism
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>>126642355
you are not in any position to make claims about what is or is not good for the brain seeing as your contribution to this thread is a bunch of semi-literate assertions, typos, and non-sequitur. dogmatic institutions are by definition not conducive to empiricism or critical thought; this is basic shit.
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>>126641445

>asking someone to pray for you is idol worship
>this is what protestants actually believe
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>>126626185
you get it
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>>126642633
all the early church fathers deny the five solaes
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>>126642737
>I cannot answer the argument
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Can we all admit that Capitalism is degenerate.

Christian Corporatism is superior.

I think we can all agree on this.

Capitalism is the legalization of usury and is Jewish by nature.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_corporatism
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>>126642796
And actual evidence to back my point

Protestantism is bad for the brain
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>>126642476
That last part literally goes against your argument, you mong
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>>126643093
Protestantism is Stil false

Those who profess to be Christ’s will be recognized by their actions. For what matters is not a momentary act of professing, but being persistently motivated by faith (The Letter of Ignatius to the Ephesians, ch. 14:2).
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>>126643091
You're not a Christian. You're not a Catholic either
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>>126622464
>The only acceptable versions of Christianity are
Yes, good! Kill each other off like you did in Northern Ireland you crazy fucks! Force the Muzzies to win by default!
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>>126642081
Most pastors lack of any serious theological studies. Once the protestantism opened the pandora's box now everyone can be a blind guide who guides other blind people.

Now we are not talking about mere material corruption but something much serious.
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>>126642701
>can't read even one sentence
Your opinion is worth less than nothing
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>>126642828
Sorry, but it's pretty clear. Making an image of Mary and praying to it IS idol worship. Perform any mental gymnastics you want, God will cut through all of them on that final day.
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>>126643178
how fucking inbred are you lol
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>>126643268
It doesn't

He denies sola FIDE

Deal with it

Those who profess to be Christ’s will be recognized by their actions. For what matters is not a momentary act of professing, but being persistently motivated by faith (The Letter of Ignatius to the Ephesians, ch. 14:2).
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>>126641937

>I don't need 2000 years of accumulated scholarship, I can interpret this millenia-old text just fine on my own.
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>>126639740
""""Catholic hierarchy"""" abandoned Christ as soon their church was established by Constantine
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Be under no illusions, protestantism is not christianity for it denies and blaspheme the body of christ and the holy spirit. How can protestants hate the church that christ gave to us and gave them their bible.
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>>126643628
Tell me when Protestants actually show the early christians into five solaes
I am waiting
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>>126643498
i don't know why you think i'm a protestant; can Catholics literally only defend themselves by saying "well at least we're better than protestants"?
you people are mind-blowing. in that post you'll assert that the church has perfect spiritual authority, and in the next thread you'll be bitching about vatican II. sophists always want it both ways, i guess
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>>126643781
Let your baptism be ever your shield, your faith a helmet, your charity a spear, your patience a panoply. Let your works be deposits, so that you may receive the sum that is due you” (Letter to St. Polycarp, 6).

Ignatius bTFO sola fide
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>>126643635
He literally said God doesn't reward us for works. Because if he did, we would be destroyed
>God doesn't reward us for works
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>>126643578
>I'm right because I'm right
You're not going to convert anyone like this.
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>>126643732
If you can't, well, we have a problem...
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>>126643847
tell me when you figure out how construct legible English-language sentences you fucking retard, what does that even mean?
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>you will never live in a world where the power of christendom isn't divided so that the jews and the muslims can freely ruin us and destroy the white race

Martin Luther is probably the worst human being of all time

Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot all bad

But no one destroyed more souls than Martin Luther

The fact that Pope Francis give a hint of being nice to his legacy is fucking disgusting
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>>126644098
And also talks about reward being due to Polycarp

That is not sola fide

Deal with it
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>>126644164
Ah good old gnosticism with secret and personal interpretations
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>>126644276
Athenagoras (2nd Century AD)

Athenagoras, an Eastern Father, argues that Christians must live in a strict moral manner, because they must give an appropriate account of all their life in order to receive the reward of salvation:

But since we are persuaded that we must give an account of all our life here to God who made us and the world, we adopt a temperate, generous, despised way of life. For we think that, even if we lose our lives, we shall suffer here no evil to be compared with the reward we shall receive from the great Judge for a gentle, generous, and modest life (A Plea Regarding Christians by Athenagoras, ch.12).


Sola fide Btfo
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>>126626185
The Catholic Church is directly responsible for many heinous things that have happened in the world.

Protestants are not directly responsible for ANY of those things you listed.

If you hate protestants so much, understand that it was the Catholic Church's VERITABLE bribery and corruption that created Protestants in the first place.
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>>126644066
>quotes a guy saying baptism is a shield
>damns baptized people to Hell
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>>126644098
No, for all men have sinned and fallen short of God's glory. But they are an expected part of faith.
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>>126642479
Nice words. God judges us by our fruit. If you are Christian, don't tell me about it. Show me, let me see it in you. I don't care what you wear, I don't care where you come from. I don't care about your denomination, it does not matter. Religion is a distraction. Do you know Christ? Do you follow his example? That is the real question.

Get right with the Lord, folks. It's about that time where we all need take a good long look at ourselves. God bless you all.
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>>126644098
>those who profess CHRIST are RECOGNIZED BY THEIR ACTIONS
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>>126644435
there is nothing in the universe more threatening to some people than the idea that other people are having religious experiences. it's fucking fascinating. hey, this creepy dude wants to rape your kid! that doesn't fucking matter, there's someone on the internet who thinks they have spiritual insight and that pisses me off!!!!
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>>126644529
Baptism works against you if you apostatise by rejecting the body of christ
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>>126644116
I'm not here to convert you, I'm here to warn you.
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>>126644379
Oh, so he contradicts himself. I think even less of him now.
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>>126644529
That is proof the early Christians deny sola fide

Deal with it
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>>126643335
>but being persistently motivated by faith (The Letter of Ignatius to the Ephesians, ch. 14:2).
No, that doesn't matter either. You either get chosen or you don't. That's GRACE and it's not about good works, faith or any of that.

Quoting Peter The Glory-Grabber will get you trouble every time.
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>>126644460
is anyone else getting a kick out of this guy or am i all on my own here
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>>126644846
>I hate the early Christians
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>>126644901
All the early Christians deny your shit

Athenagoras (2nd Century AD)

Athenagoras, an Eastern Father, argues that Christians must live in a strict moral manner, because they must give an appropriate account of all their life in order to receive the reward of salvation:

But since we are persuaded that we must give an account of all our life here to God who made us and the world, we adopt a temperate, generous, despised way of life. For we think that, even if we lose our lives, we shall suffer here no evil to be compared with the reward we shall receive from the great Judge for a gentle, generous, and modest life (A Plea Regarding Christians by Athenagoras, ch.12).
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>>126644761
Not threatening, just an old heresy that was condemned in the 3rd century. Hilarious how protestantism is just heresy revival bonanza
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>>126644164

>It's crazy to just read Netter's Atlas of Human Anatomy and then perform surgery on someone
>It's crazy to just read a couple legal statutes and represent yourself in court
>It's not crazy to entrust the fate of your immortal soul to your uneducated ability to interpret a 2000 year-old document
>this is what protestants actually believe.
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Irenaeus (AD 130-200)

Irenaeus, a Western Father, in his writings, Against Heresies, Book I, confirms the necessity of a life of love and holiness, as well as keeping our Lord’s commandments in order to receive eternal life:

But to the righteous and holy, and those who have kept his commandments and have remained in his love…he will by his grace give life incorrupt, and will clothe them with eternal glory (ch.10:1).

Protestants hate this
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>>126643732
You don't need to read many blatantly wrong interpretations to realize God gave you everything you need to understand The Bible yourself. It is there for you to read. Asking someone else to interpret it for you is like CNN telling you they will interpret Wikileaks for you (and we promise to not spin out bias and agenda into it, tehe)
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>>126644609
It's the word of God.
If you think you now better you are guilty of the same thing as Satan, are you not
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>>126644676
Yeah. They're recognized for repenting. If they were recognized for ALL their actions, they would still be damned.
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>>126644517
Protestant nations legalized usury

Protestant nations were the first to tolerate and let the Jews flourish

Protestant doctrine basically encourages revolution and led to the rise of democracy

Protestant Southerners are the ones who loved slavery and nigger dick so much. They are responsible for blackening America. Then thousands of whites had to die fighting each other because you were too lazy to pick your own cotton.

30 Years War was one of the most brutal wars of all time and killed millions of good whites

Today Protestant cucks are the vanguard of SJW liberalism and mudshit immigration
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>>126645474
No wonder protestants CANT AGREE

HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>126644013
No I didn't said that. Church is not perfect and nobody is without sin. Some Popes were literally the opposite of Christ. But I say that once you break the unity of the church, these things appear automatically. And it end like a circus.

Don't take it personally. It's just my opinion.
peace
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>>126645306
it's almost as if there's a logical, elegant, personally liberating interpretation of the tradition that's been brutally suppressed by the catholic church for its entire existence, which can't help but resurface every century or so despite every catholic attempt to stamp it out. almost as if it's self-evident.
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>>126645609
That wasn't what Ignatius said. He said ACTIONS. Meaning what IS DONE

None of the early Christians believe in sola fide

Get over it
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>>126645474
>6,000,000 denominations man speaks out
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>>126644564
I know they're expected. But that doesn't mean good works save in their own right.
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>>126645492
I'm better than nobody. And yes, it is the Word of God indeed - that fulfillment of it in relation to each of our lives. There is a message in there for everyone at any given time. God bless you brother, truly. Have a good rest of your night.
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>>126645474

And this is how we get pic related
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>>126645650
Again, I'm not a protestant. That's the name you give me. I'd prefer people to not get duped by the perversity of the Catholic Church, but that is on you. If that makes me "protestant" then so be it. The Catholic Church is perverse and corrupt. Leave her behind.
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>>126645854
>suppressed
>zero historical evidence
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>>126634935
I don't understand how Protestantism can be a trend when it's 500 years old. That's nearly 200 years older than the United States.

Trends are things like scene culture or Tamagotchi's.
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>>126645922
>recognized by their actions
>deposit for reward
>must do it for a lifetime

Sola fide btfo

Irenaeus (AD 130-200)

Irenaeus, a Western Father, in his writings, Against Heresies, Book I, confirms the necessity of a life of love and holiness, as well as keeping our Lord’s commandments in order to receive eternal life:

But to the righteous and holy, and those who have kept his commandments and have remained in his love…he will by his grace give life incorrupt, and will clothe them with eternal glory (ch.10:1).
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>>126644989
>I act like a 8-year old and say deal with it constantly instead of contributing in a civilized fashion
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>>126646028
Tell me when you stop Sola Ego
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>>126644339

Luther opened pandora's box, but he had legitimate criticisms. I don't agree with many of the things he did, but it was the radical reformers who did the most damage
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>>126646283
Tell me when the early church fathers into sola fide


I am waiting
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>>126646418
He is still against the early Christians

Irenaeus (AD 130-200)

Irenaeus, a Western Father, in his writings, Against Heresies, Book I, confirms the necessity of a life of love and holiness, as well as keeping our Lord’s commandments in order to receive eternal life:

But to the righteous and holy, and those who have kept his commandments and have remained in his love…he will by his grace give life incorrupt, and will clothe them with eternal glory (ch.10:1).
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>>126645891
Ignatius is not God. Ignatius did not here Christ teach personally. Ignatius did not know all of Jesus's teachings
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>>126646846
IGNATIUS is an early christian

He SUFFERED AND DIED

AND HE IS IN HELL IF PROTESTANTISM IS TRUE
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>>126645956
Yeah, you're right. It's better to not read The Bible and follow the Catholic Church, even though they practice things that go against the teachings of The Bible and basically do their own thing. Oh yeah, and there's a lot of pedophilia and sexual abuse going on behind the scenes to further solidify how corrupt and perverse they are, but yeah, don't read the Bible on your own. Just rely on these rich perverse bureaucratic men wearing priest's garments to tell you what's up.
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>>126646254
>Romans 10
BTFO
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>>126645674
they seem to appear automatically even with the unity of the church, though. if it was a real deal, "ignore a little kid-fucking and we'll give you a non-degenerate society", that'd be one thing; but such non-degenerate societies never seem to have existed, at least in europe after the fall of rome. seems a bit of a false promise, if you take an outside view on it.
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>>126644339
We shouldn't hate Protestants just Protestantism itself, that said Pope Francis is the Pope and if he were to condemn Protestants in interviews and such then they will hunker down and feel like Martin Luther all again fighting for their beliefs, however heretical they may be. Protestants ultimately have to be convinced by Catholicism not ridiculed to death
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If Protestants are correct then why are all their nations degenerate shitholes?

God is punishing Protestant nations with a scourge of Islam
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We have discovered faith to be the first movement towards salvation. After faith, fear, hope, and repentance (accompanied by temperance and patience) lead us to love and knowledge (The Stromata, Bk. II, ch. VI).


Protesrants hate this
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>>126646418

>"This church has existed for 15 centuries without knowing the truth"
>I WILL SHOW THEM!
>creates degenerate version of Christianity
>YES NOW EVERYTHING IS PERFECT
>more versions pop up
>NO YOU IDIOTS I AM THE ONLY ONE ALLOWED TO GO AGAINST AUTHORITY

Yeah it wasn't really his fault. Who could have seen that coming?
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>>126647027
Meanwhile in biblical scholarship
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>>126646039
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albigensian_Crusade
this isn't for your benefit, bong, this is for spectators. i know you're too retarded to see any possible similarities between cathars and any other heresy.
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>>126646988
>he's in Hell if Protestantism is true
According to who?
>all caps
>getting this mad on a Mongolian cooking board
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>>126647071
>We shouldn't hate Protestants just Protestantism itself

Absolutely true

But I think a lot more would be willing to convert if the church was strong and masculine

Vatican II needs to go

We need of sacred traditions back

The cucked modern church is a joke and won't get Protestants to jump ship and join
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>>126647364
Those are not proddies

And we KNOW THEY EXIST AND BELIEF
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>>126647071
You are going to hell, my friend.

Praise be to God, the almighty, forever and ever,
Amen.
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Shouldn't you be kissing refugees' feet?
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>>126647606
>You are going to hell
>my friend.

hahaha stop pls lmao
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>>126647540
http://proto-protestantism.blogspot.com/p/who-were-proto-protestants.html
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>>126647263
Read what I said you absolute mong, I never said it wasn't his fault.
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>>126647415
Guess those who deny sola fide will be saved
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>>126647274
Paul has more authority, and of you argue the apostles don't have more authority, than I guess Peter has the same authority as an normal bishop.
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>>126647606
Protestants are satan
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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