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So is cops having armored vehicles to protect themselves suddenly count as living in a "police state"?
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>>126447987
I'm more worried about the disregard of the 1st-10th amendments.
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>>126447987
I understand the SUVs but why the fucking Tanks? are they trying to destroy buildings?
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>>126447987
I like the Chico style.
Brevard went full BOPE.
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>>126448285
>TIL armored personnel carriers are tanks

Probably surplus from Vietnam or Desert Storm. What's so different between them and armored cars? They serve literally the same purpose
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>>126447987
>to protect themselves
The purpose of police is to protect the innocents against crime, and to catch criminals. Whenever police goes in the streets to fight with people who are not criminals, is a police state.
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>>126447987
>St. Petersburg, FL
Goddamit, burgers.
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>>126447987
When your economy is dependent on the war machine these things happen
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>>126447987
Its only that bad in leftie states that riot over nothing and get violent.
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>>126448430
>What's so different between them and armored cars?
~30 mm
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>>126447987
Nigger lovers will say yes.
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Wow it's almost like violent protests and riots have increased tenfold in the past 5 years!
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cops only care about other cops and generating revenue

when I see news of a cop getting killed I don't care
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>>126447987
The police need military equipment to kill the rebels and protect us.
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>>126447987
Drug dealers have submarines. Does that make them the Third Reich?
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they are a tool of the state to keep the citizens in line
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>>126447987
NO. Cops suddenly having armored vehicles suddenly constitutes a police state. Stupid fascist motherfucker.
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>>126448285
>Tanks

good thing none of those are tanks then isn't it?
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>>126448930
>cop getting killed I don't care
Nigger detected.
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>>126448930
here's the (you) you were fishing for

>>126449053
lel
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>>126447987
I live in St. Petersburg fl, 20 min from Tampa.

Never seen either one of those in my entire life.
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>>126449256
>suddenly

Lol they've had armored vehicles since the Watts Riots of 1960whatever. Blame the niggers
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>>126448513
>protect the innocents
Apparently you've never read 'Warren v. Washington. D.C."

You might want check it out....
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Cops like masterbating to weird shit...
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>>126449515
is because you're likely white and don't hang out in the ghetto/haven't had felony warrants served at your house/haven't hung out in large riots
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>>126447987
No, that doesn't even make sense. They need them for shit like killdozers.
>>126448285
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer
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>>126449713
That's true, I'm not a criminal.

So then how is it a police state? If only criminals encounter law enforcement?
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>>126447987
What is going on Chico, CA that they need IFVs?
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>Niggers in ghettos have lots of guns
>APCs allow the police to actually do their jobs

Militarisation of police is a consequence of the nigger problem.
Civil rights movement was a mistake.
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>>126447987
When your citizens are armed to the teeth, you need bigger guns and armour than that bought by the criminals.
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>>126447987
Authoritarians are afraid of death because of their egos.
They like to start wars, but don't like the idea that this means they might get hurt and possibly die.
So they take your money(steal it, basically) as taxes and use it to buy surplus armor for their goons. Organized crime does the same kinda shit, but because they have to be more subtle they tend to skip obvious armor like in your pic.

>we're going to start up a war on the citizenry over drugs/guns/prostitution then complain when we encounter resistance, so then we'll steal money, call it taxation, and use it to buy better armor and weapons
The general mindset here.
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>>126447987
Sorry OP, but we have these unruly things called niggers. Got no choice but to have these vehicles.
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>>126448767
This
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>>126448930
How many times have you been arrested?
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>>126449973
They never really use these things in the ghetto. They're almost always used when there's an "active shooter" at a location and they need a mobile wall to get SWAT into position to take a suspect down.
If they were actually used in the ghetto, they might actually help stop niggotry a bit.
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>>126448513
>rioting/looting shitskins
>"innocents"

kys niggerlover
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>Mass surveillance
>Government regulates pretty much every aspect of life
>State has the codified right to detain or execute anyone without due process
>Local police departments are full of military grade materiel, including the ACPs in OPs post

No, led, we ain't in a police state.
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>>126450307
apc*
fuggggg
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>>126447987
Your police is militarized as fuck. They are basically the undercover national army.
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The departments buy these from other agencies like the DoD for pennies on the dollar since there is a surplus. Also with criminals using guns and not plastic knives you need something bulletproof when responding to an active shooter. No department uses these unless it's for an active shooter. Plus only Swat has these. Your normal small town police department won't have anything close to this. Also look at the pic.
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>>126448513
>to protect the innocents

This is legally unfactual. The only thing police have a mandate to do is follow orders. If you were being raped by seven niggers in front of a cop, he has no obligation to help you at all. He can let you get raped and murdered, call in the EMTs, and nothing would happen to him.

Police exist to enforce the status quo of the state. They are thugs for the ruling class.
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>>126447987
Boulder, are you serious. They wouldn't be caught dead using that thing. The boulder PD is full of SJW fags. The police chief was at the scene of a robbery but he didn't have a gun so he just stood there like a fag.
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>>126449915
because the idea of cops having them hurts fee fees

>>126449917
Back in the day Chico State college had an event called Pioneer Day. The problem began when Chico State got ranked one of the best party schools by Playboy and the frats/sororities decided to try to live up to it and a giant party on frat row turned into a giant bonfire in the middle of the street with furniture and stuff in it then turned into a riot with smashed cars and cops/fire fighters being assaulted etc

basically small town with a college that had too big a party and went crazy
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>>126450437
lmao I have a decommissioned tank, of which I can recommission, if war breaks out Ill lead the army
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>>126450662

The biggest irony is that these are almost always deployed in areas with strict gun control laws.
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>>126450307
They're mostly useless. Like I said, they're used as a mobile wall.
One other reason is mobile roadblock.
And finally, they're a propaganda measure. Cops roll these fuckers out when they wanna assert that their dick is bigger than the gang members.
In reality, anyone who is enough of an actual threat to need such armor could probably destroy these things with relative ease. Shaped charge/IED fodder.

This ain't new either, and it can be far worse.
The ATF used Abrams tanks to fill the Waco compound with flammables before setting it alight.
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Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces
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>>126450711
they are the dogs of hell, placed on earth for a short spell to torment others, then back to hades to bark for Satan's command
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>>126450719

>boulder

I hate those fucking faggot so much.
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>>126447987
It's almost like they're trying to protect against some sort of explosive attacks in recent years...Perhaps?

And by recent years, i mean the year when the refugee crisis started happening?

P E R H A P S ?
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>>126447987
Yes.
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>>126447987
Only CA, NV, and NC have proper turrets with machine guns, the rest are just gay.
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>>126451123
That armor is useless against high explosives.
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>>126447987
In a country where every other person is armed and every other armed person is heavily armed i find it completely reasonable for the police to have armoured vehicles. In britain if someone chimps out at worst they might have a .22 or a shotgun, over in the states they could have a fucking machine gun. Come back to me when every police car is armoured like those and then you can talk about having a police state.
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anti-chimpout hardware != police state
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>>126450984

*McVeigh intensifies*
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muh scary black assault trucks should be banned
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>>126450120
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>>126451264
We're talking homemade explosions.

Pressure cooker bombs, etc etc.
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>>126451532
Why can't the government fund itself like all other legal organizations, through sales or donations?
Why do they have to use the protection racket model used by organized crime?
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>>126451400
>could have a fucking machine gun
key word
>could

machine guns are so heavily regulated and cost as much as a entry level toyota car so pretty much never get used in crime
at worst you might come across the odd nigger rigged tec 9 or mac 11 that ca fire full retard
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>>126451194
The LAV seems to have a proper cannon.
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>>126451792
Mao was a shitbag but he got some things correct. Ultimately political power does flow from the barrel of a gun. Government always has and probably always will be a monopoly on the "legal" use of force. It's just how it is.
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>>126450863
That's because if there wasn't strict gun control, upstanding citizens would also be carrying and neutralise the threat before the police could arrive.
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>>126447987

1970s
>No gangs with guns
2010s
>Every nigger/taco has a gun

HMMMMMH REALLY MAKES YOU FUCKING THINK OP
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>>126451703
I could disable anything in OP's image with a a trip to Lowes and Walmart.

Nitroglycerin, nitrocellulose to make gelatin dynamite.
Mix with some ammonium nitrate from instant cold packs as a filler, and load into a small shaped charge device. Multi-directional, with about a 2lb charge.
For the cap, Hg fulminate is doable, but more modern and clandestine use entails making and using DDNP. Silver acetylide is also easily and safely made in small quantities.
Pressing homemade caps though, that requires balls of steel, even with a safety press set up.
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>>126452559
>>No gangs with guns
naa they had guns, they just didn't have as many and didn't use them every chance they got
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>>126447987
Since you people decided to riot over every single fucking thing.
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>>126451792
They're already providing a service of providing some underlying organization to society. I know ancaps dream of no governments, but I don't think this is reasonable and SOME taxes are necessary for this.

But fuck that, right now U.S. spending is bloated as fuck and could be slashed massively.
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>>126452699

Very few of them had pistols and were only used as last resort

Now every nigger has a shotty/semi rifle in his trap house and they use it for dumbest shit like robberies
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>>126452270
>Government always has and probably always will be a monopoly on the "legal" use of force. It's just how it is.

Oh I know that. I'm just posing the question.
I avoid government and laws. I mind my own business, and never cause a scene. Smart men do what they need to do without being assholes and without entangling with authorities.

You can't beat psychopaths in their own game. It's best to just not play.
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>>126452664
Ar*b nigs don't have access to this type of knowledge, even if they did,
they are too uneducated to understand anything.

Everything in OP's image works with the current situation we hold,
which is basically small arms fire, tiny explosives, maybe even a truck ramming.
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>>126452945
yeah that's pretty much what i said
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>>126453014
You're a wise man. Shame the psychopaths rise to the top (often atop a pile of corpses), but what can be done really?
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>>126453339
>tfw muslims spend their youth learning koran verses and other religious shit
>tfw you spent your youth lurking the KA-FUCKING-BOOM board of pic related
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>>126447987
I'd let any military state take me over as long as they had as slick APCs as that

Style points go a long way
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>>126447987
armored vehicle are great to storm houses occupied by armed people.
Police could use them to protect themselves (standing behind it) or to break walls
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>>126452664
What's nitrocellulose in that can be bought over the counter? Pure curiosity, please no v&.
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>>126447987
They had an armored car in Lubbock, TX, in 1971. Yes. I'm an oldfag.
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>>126447987
>>126447987
>to protect themselves

Its amazing the things amerikikes will believe in order to justify their servile boot-licking "culture."

>b-buh muh gunz

They only count if you use them, Cletus.
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>>126453544
Yew
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>>126447987

Dude, you have terrorists group like "black lives matter".
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>>126450662
reminds me of the gundam Ball
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>>126448285
I'm pretty sure that's a water gun for crowd control
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>>126454190
except that it doesn't have guns and is literally an armored bobcat
you retarded weeb
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>>126448544
Theres also a Moscow, PA.
Its a pretty comfy place to live.
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>>126448285
Those aren't tanks. They are APCs. Literally armored personal transports with no weapon systems.
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>>126450711
>The only thing police have a mandate to do is follow orders. If you were being raped by seven niggers in front of a cop, he has no obligation to help you at all. He can let you get raped and murdered, call in the EMTs, and nothing would happen to him.
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
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I have no problem with APV's for cops. That part of the police militarization I am fine with.

What I am not okay with though is that police agencies are getting face masks, bayonets, and full auto rifles. Absolutely none of those items have ANY place in American law enforcement.

Cops do not need to hide their faces. They are agents of the government and we need to know who they are when they act.

As every Infantryman knows, the spirit of the bayonet is to "kill, kill, kill. Kill with the cold blue steel." That's not what I want cops doing. Ever.

Machine guns cause collateral damage. That's fine when it's some third world shithole, but not in my back yard. Cops are notoriously horrible shots, and I don't want someone missing a criminal and going cyclic into my house.
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>>126454407
*heems you*
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>>126447987
>things we wouldn't need in a white country for $500 Alex
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>>126453720
It's best to make it yourself. Hardest part is dealing with the acids, and neutralizing the acids from the NC for stability.
Ping pong balls use a weak form(low N content) of it.

>>126453339
There's not much that can survive an 80,000lb semi moving over 40mph. At 70+mph, I doubt even an Abrams could survive, due to the massive kinetic energy involved. There's only so much armor can due when enough energy is in play.

>>126453544
I once studied amateur pyrotechnics and the theory and chemistry of high explosives.
Legit materials too, not anarchist crap.

I still have a number of good books on my shelf on these subjects.
The Chemistry of Powder and Explosives, T.L. Davis
Black Powder Manufacturing, Testing, and Optimizing
Principles of Pyrotechnics, A.A. Shidlovskiy
Fireworks, Takeo Shimizu
These ones are the ones I find most interesting. I don't make anything, as making means testing and using and I can't do that without drawing the evil eye.
But I have made stuff back in the past in a more reckless time, so I have the experience if I need to draw from it.
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>>126447987
>muh police state
The simple truth is that the police needs to be better armed that the citizenry. How are you supposed to hold authority when you're outgunned by average criminals?
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>>126454666
The one in CA has gun, which is why I asked >>126449917.
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>>126455286
Nitric acid is regulated though, I think, and sulfuric isn't easy either what with sealed lead-acid batteries. I'm going to stop typing now because of paranoia.
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>>126455314

>How are you supposed to hold authority when you're outgunned by average criminals?

Because the authority comes from the citizens themselves.
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>>126455286
How is that Poor Man's James Bond ebook series? Just threw the first one on an ancient e-reader I own but haven't looked it over yet, seems to be a good manual on what you're talking about broadly.
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>>126454696
Supreme Court decision. Cops have no obligation to protect you.
The only obligation they have is to make an arrest if they see it happen. Now, generally your street cops aren't going to be asshole enough to let niggers do that to civilians, and will deal with the riffraff as soon as they see it.
But technically, the only obligation any officer in the US has is to arrest them, and they can generally do this at their leisure, legally.

Cops are not protectors of safety or citizenry. They're law enforcement. They're the government's internal muscle, whereas the military is the external muscle. Protection can only truly come from your own means, anything else is placebo. And people get complacent when they think they're being defended, leading to lack of vigilance which is usually detected by predatory parties.

>>126455691
I used to make my own HNO3 and re-distill it under vacuum to get WFNA.
I found a local source of cheap H2SO4 that's nearly lab-grade, but I won't mention it here. I still use that to make HCl vapor that I use to make HCl salts of various alkaloids. Usually propylhexedrine HCl. I extract the propylhexedrine from the inhalers it comes in as a freebase, apply HCl gas, and extract using water.
This rids it of the nasty lavender oil it comes with. Then just heat the water solution to drive off remaining HCl, solvent, and the menthol the P-hex also comes with.
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>>126456516
Sounds like you know your shit. Stay safe anon.
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>>126447987
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>>126456318
If it's the actual PMJB by Kurt Saxon, those are damn fine books.
A lot of the info is dated, but in a way that's what makes it powerful. You won't need a well-fitted lab or machine shop to pull off the stuff in those books.

Another great series is the Scientific Principles of Improvised Warfare and Home Defense, but this one requires more technical skills and better gear.
Still worth a read.

PS, if you ever see physical copies of PMJB 3 and 4 for cheap(under 40 bucks) grab them.
They're pretty rare books.
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>>126447987
The police are bros where I live.
It's a small town in the Pennine mountains near the border between England and Scotland.
For sure they can break up a pub brawl quickly.
They also must police one of the most isolated and dangerous roads in UK.
A66. pic related. It goes past my home. The accident rate is very high. I'm in a mountain rescue team.
The biggest problem is that people see the beauty of the area and go unprepared.
Lack of preparation is a killer. Mobile phones will not work in isolated areas. And it can kill if no preparations are made beforehand.

Tell people where you are going.
Ditch the smartphone. It won't work.
Take a well prepared first aid kit. It weighs nothing.
Always assume thatthe weather will go harsh.
Know where you are - this is vital and can save you if you get fucked up, so take a map.
Navigation is very important. If things go bad, say an injury, like a broken bone, mountain rescue, cops, medics, will find you.
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>>126457201
>you won't need a well-fitted lab or machine shop to pull off the stuff in those books
Excellent. Just checked and they appear to be the real deals, volumes 1-5 with the first listed as "updated". I must have nabbed them from a thread here and only rediscovered them when I found my e-reader and did a search for books I might have downloaded.
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>>126454706
When the fuck have you ever seen a cop with a bayonet?
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>>126457006
>Gayer
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>>126457006
Can't blame him for wanting a cool truck
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>>126448285
Serious answer:

Armored vehicles are typically donated or acquired through federal assistance programs. When departments get apcs or mraps it's generally surplus that is otherwise going to get bought for it's weight in steal for recycling. So the department gets it for basically it's scrap value.

I suspect most departments would prefer a bearcat (the non military looking suvs pictured) because their are much cheaper to maintain, easier to drive, and go highway speed. Bearcats are built on heavy truck chassis so maintenance is comparable to a standard commercial truck. They are not armored for combat, which is fine because police don't have to worry about efps and landmines. Their armor is sufficient for small arms, but otherwise they drive and fix like a truck. The reason departments get mraps instead is a bearcat is 200k and an surplus mrap is basically given to them. Although I suspect these surplus armored carriers will prove go be white elephants in the long run.
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>>126457006
Honestly, it's a case of "boys and their toys" here.
They just make excuses to the public in order to obtain their real goal: cool shit to play with.
That's what happens when you have other people's money to use.

One of the reasons governments tend to get into debt is because government spending is based on how much is used, not how much is saved. Frugality is not a factor when you're told to spend every cent you have in a budget. This often leads to very liberal spending, even among conservative governments.
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Actual SWAT Fag in the Chicagoland area. MRAPS are generally donated by the DHS for literally $1 to SWAT Teams. Our Bearcat was also donated to us. These armored vehicles are used in active shooter/hostage, and barricaded gunmen situations. High risk search warrants youll see a Bearcat as well as armor or a wall if shots come out on approach.

Our bearcat took shotgun slugs to the passenger side window in a standoff a few years back with a cop sitting behind it. We also use the armor to evac people from houses in the area of a standoff.
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I don't care what the police have, it doesn't matter at all. The police are an arm of the government, and the government has access to the military and national guard if they should choose.

What matters is when/how they use it. Police have guns on hand at all times which can easily kill a few people at a time. If the police only use them for reasonably highly dangerous situations that don't infringe on the constitutional rights of the citizens, it's fine.

This is the same bullshit argument that people make when 'THE COPS SHOT HIM 65 TIMES WTF????'. It doesn't matter how many times they shot someone if they killed him, what matters is whether or not they're justified in shooting someone. If you can make a rational argument as to why they're using 'military-grade' equipment, then I don't care.
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>>126457394

>he thinks he lives somewhere remote
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>>126450307
strange quote on that picture, but I oddly agree with it, most cats even go hide somewhere out of the way to die, even if you have taken care of that cat since it was a kitten, its really rather convenient when you think about it.
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>>126458144
Do you have a preference for either the bearcat or the MRAP in terms of general usefulness?
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>>126458152
Nogunz shits don't understand that, when a gun is pulled, it becomes lethal action.
Police do not use a gun to wound. They use a gun to kill. That's what everyone uses a gun on another person does. There is never a time when a loaded firearm is pulled on another person that it is not a lethal action, and for that matter there is never a time when ANY gun or realistic replica "toy" is pulled on someone that it is not considered a lethal threat, unless(and only in the case of toys) both parties are aware beforehand of the circumstances and are just kidding around or acting.
When LE uses deadly force they're trained to unload the magazine at the center of mass.

For people so worried about guns, leftists sure as shit don't understand their usage.
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>>126457975
>Honestly, it's a case of "boys and their toys" here.
Don't say this. Most people here are men, you'll hurt their feefees.
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>>126447987
We've been both police state and nanny state basically since before I was born.

This used to depress me, but now I think it's pretty badass if we use it against commies.
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>>126458858
The MRAP is really only used for evacs during hostage/barricade situations. One of the issues is that it sits so high up your legs are kind of exposed .

The bear has a lot more uses since its lower to the ground, has a turret, and more "agile" i guess.
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>>126449917
Just because it has a gun doesn't make it an IFV. IFV's usually have some sort of auto canon or other armament meant to take on light to medium armor. That's gun looks to just be either a 30 or 50 cal
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>>126447987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MezLoczjfY

nothing to see here, folks, just your neighborhood stormtroopers doing their rounds and normalizing military on the street. martial law is great, you'll LOVE it!
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>>126458858
Also fun fact, ours is from South Africa and right hand drive and from the 80's.
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>>126447987
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>>126459376
The Boston lockdown was a bit eerie to watch from outside, wasn't it
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>>126448513
>The purpose of police is to protect the innocents against crime, and to catch criminals.

tell that to joe lozito.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbLpDQ-7BwY
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The police had a bearcat and a swat team at the dui checkpoint I drove through last night, so I'd say yes.
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>>126458985
Man, what proper man doesn't look at an APC and not wanna have one?

Hell, I can't go by Tractor Supply without getting that juvenile TOYS feeling like I had as a kid walking through the Legos section.

Growing up in rural America, I spent lots of time in hardware stores. That smell of chemicals, seed, rubber, and steel is forever imprinted. So I can't really blame them. I'd be more okay with it if they were just honest about it.

>Hey, ladies and gentlemen. Today, we have received our new surplus MRAP! We got it mostly because it's cool and it was dirt cheap, so why not? We can use it for hostage rescue situations too, if god-forbid we ever need to.
Sounds realistic and far better than what the dude in that pic said.
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>>126459510
it was terrifying.
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>>126459376
I'd be so pissed if they did that and let my, strictly indoors, cat out.
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>>126459682
Jesus Christ.
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>>126458369
Europoors tend to think any town less than 50k is some backwards isolated shithole. It's cute tbqh
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>>126459846
>>126459510
Cities are awful places.
Fun fact: Living in an urban environment doubles your risk of mental illness.
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>>126447987
Oh shit, by this logic I'm fucked.
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>>126459846
Didn't they not end up finding the kid until some citizen told them to check his boat in the backyard? I seem to recall them shooting it a few times before dragging him out of it, as if he was a wild bear that could attack them all at any moment. I could be misremembering though.

>>126460181
Couldn't agree more.
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>>126460358
you remember what i remember. it was a fucking travesty, the state flexing its muscles.
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>>126447987

Is that thing in the middle top a BTR or a SKOT?
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>>126460192
How well could a Finn rally in that thing? I thought you guys liked em small and fast?
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>>126460358
>Didn't they not end up finding the kid until some citizen told them to check his boat in the backyard? I seem to recall them shooting it a few times before dragging him out of it, as if he was a wild bear that could attack them all at any moment. I could be misremembering though.
Yeah, JFC, could you imagine if there had been a dozen of them instead of just two? I mean thankfully since then police departments across the country have wisened up a bit and gotten their shit together but still...
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>>126447987
>police is your enemy
Who the fuck invented this meme?
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>>126460956
>could you imagine if there had been a dozen of them instead of just two
I would have understood the police measures a bit more if there had been that many to deal with, but yeah I hear your point. If one scrawny kid is all it takes to bring a city to a standstill, how in the fuck would we handle an actual insurgent cell that started operating?
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>>126447987
Your police it's as militarized as Brasil and your mass survelliance it's unmatched by anything in the history of human goverments.

It's safe to call it a police state if you are constanly policing what the people does.
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>>126447987
As National Socialists we are against the police, until we control them. The police support a race mixed state.
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>>126447987
we have 40 million niggers in this country.

I hope that sheds some light.
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>>126461246
It depends upon the agency.
Here where I live now, the county police cause no trouble unless you're asking for it.
However, where I grew up, the county wanted to act like the city boys but didn't have enough crime to deal with to be like the city boys and thus instigated unneeded trouble.

Wayne Ivey has been, so far, an exemplary sheriff. And I say that as a pretty hardcore Libertarian and minarchist.
OTOH you have that asshole Grady Judd, whose ego is utterly reprehensible. He's always pulling stings off and fucking around, because Polk County would otherwise be boring as shit and he would be a nobody in his eyes.

Another cool local cop is a guy named Mike Chitwood. He's kind of a hardass, but he's not an asshole, and the people he always talks shit about really are scumbags.
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>>126461667
1 nigger is one to many.
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>>126447987
I can understand Chicago having them.
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>>126461902
Yeah but this country has like 3 police organizations, county sheriff, state police, and fbi federal police. Who needs that fucking many police? Also u.s. marshals. Way to much police. This shithole country is a desgustinf despicable mongrel drug infested police state.
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>>126460641
We have found that people are much more compliant when you really drive the point across.
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And the cops getting off those vehicles looks like this
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>>126447987
Niggers like to attack squad cars sooo, naturally they saw a requirement to upgrade.
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>>126462858
Commies told me that they look more like this.
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>>126462858
not fat enough
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>>126448285
Surplus.

We create way too much shit to the point that our primary military doesn't need all of it, so it overflows to the police.
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We wuz Panzers an sheit.
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Protip: Read this
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>>126448430
Nogs can eventually damage one and they can't do anything to the other.
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>>126461902
>local
>Mike Chitwood

Yoo you 386 bro too?
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>>126463621
Forget the us constitution and its flaws.
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>>126447987
It became a police state when citizens became the hunted rather than the protected. Many years before the MRAPS
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>>126464924
321

>>126462464
Then why use camouflage?

>>126462255
Technically, the only federal police allowed under the US Constitution are Secret Service, and only to combat counterfeiting.
The US Constitution does not authorize the federal government to otherwise participate in law enforcement, and any powers not directly authorized(powers granted) to the US Government by the Constitution is granted exclusively to the states or people.

The feds have been slowly pushing the bar higher on their power. Frog in boiling water, people get more complacent with tiny steps than huge leaps.
If you had gone to the people of the US asking for a federal ban on cannabis or cocaine in 1850, you might have gotten shot for being a threat to personal sovereignty. Not even kidding here. And any kind of gun law? Just hang it up.

But in the modern day, people have become used to getting reamed by their public servants.
Because "safety comes first" and "think of the children".
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>>126466208
You see we try to keep our citizens eye sight sharp and good.
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>>126448930
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>>126447987
I mean, technically speaking, if your police are the presence of the state, which is the case in the US, you are living in a "police state".
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>>126448430
>surplus
and lets not forget that the jews got us into that war.

all according to plan goyim.
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>>126460181
Makes sense. Half the country lives in Seoul and people who don't piss their lives away on vidya or join brainwash cults always seem miserable or drunk (often both). I'd bet it more than doubles the risk here, come to think of it
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>>126466534
Why not just use snipers to shoot the tires of speeding vehicles? Makes about as much sense as using a half-camouflaged tank with a cop light sticking way up above it in an obvious yet subtle manner.

Hell, why even have speeding laws? Aren't Finns the best drivers in the world? Even with all the drinking it doesn't seem like there'd be a lot of wrecks.
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>>126449869
The vehicles in OP's pic wouldn't have stopped Killdozer. Killdozer was almost impenetrable concrete and steel. The only reason the event came to an end was because Marv drove into a building with a basement, got stuck and shot himself.
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>>126447987
Why do cops need tacticool mall ninja gear and tanks to LARP around in?
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>>126447987
Holy shit, California has an actual commie BTR-80. You can't make this shit up.
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>>126467324
Our government sees speeding as a income so they secretly promote speeding and make the tickets fucking expensive.
And they lower the speed limits fucking everywhere, just to make more people to brake the speed limit.
Last year they were bitching about how they didn't get the money the expected from speeding tickets.
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Someone please explain how this would save my small town of 50,000 people money?
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>>126447987
Gee... I wonder.
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>>126461246
>Who the fuck invented this meme?

Niggers did--seriously. Most people ITT bitching about the cops with an American flag are niggers.
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>>126468036
sup neighbor
davis got one too and a bunch of pussies freaked out thinking we had a tank and demanding it gets sent back
funny thing is you guys got it
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>>126467874
Why don't they find something to sell instead, like lottery tickets, or maybe open up a casino?
Why be a bunch of assholes? I mean, I know the reason. It's because they're psychopaths who think their shit is odorless and they have some right to act like dicks to their fellow man.

>>126467855
I agree with the gentleman above. Brevard's ride is the best looking. It has a styling to it that's slick.

>>126468036
They buy a surplus vehicle and don't have to buy one at retail cost. At least that's the likely excuse.
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>>126468353
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>>126468036
Because the town probably paid a $1 for it as military surplus. Bought new or used otherwise it would have been what $40,000 to a $100,000 or something? Those vehicles save lives. It sounds crazy but crazy shit happens that these vehicles are needed even in bum fuck Nowheresville.

>a 26 year old male set three fires around his home and fired on a police officer responding
>Several law enforcement officers and deputies responded to the officer's call for assistance, including the Fort Morgan Police Department's Critical Incident Response Team (SWAT) and the Brush Police Department and their newly acquired Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicle

http://www.fortmorgantimes.com/fort-morgan-local-news/ci_30762150/suspected-arson-leads-an-ambush-and-suicide
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>>126448793
They're not fitted for combat you dolt. Fuck even our swat equivalent has apcs but they're not even fitted with a water cannon
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>>126467855
Pretty sure it's just one of countless MOWAG Piranha derived vehicles.
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>>126468353
>Wanda's Weaves
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>>126469093
C'mon man DELET this, you are ruining it for everyone.
A BTR is perfectly fitting for Commiefornia.
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>>126468609
They already do both of those + have monopoly over alcohol sales.
Only the government store can sell alcohol thats over 4,7%. And guess what its so expensive that its cheaper to go to Estonia to buy a pack of beer and come back to Finland than buy it from here.
24pack of beer here is 22-28€ and ship ticket to estonia and back is 10€ and beer in estonia is 8-12€
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>>126449139
hey, nice comic, same shit thats happening on my farm except we arent selling it so its not illegal you shitstains monitoring this bread
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>>126450021
So, good for them there is no further amendment, that grants the right to drive an armored vehicle.
Else there would be a cold-war-like upgrading in armament between the citicens and the gooberment.
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>>126469720
>this whole post
>the whole goddamn post
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>>126448285
Tank Police get with the times
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>>126450711
I applaud you for pointing out how police have no duty to protect you, something that needs to be said more often. Too many people are under the false impression that police are there to protect them, rather than simply enforce the law.
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>>126469956
that would actually be pretty cool
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>>126447987
no you fucking moron
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>>126451400
> they could have a fucking machine gun

Not unless they brought it up here from Mexico, you stupid fuck.
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>>126452559
What the fuck are you talking about? The US has had problems with organized crimes and rioting since the first world war you stupid nigger
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>>126469956
We the people reserve the right to engage in a nuclear standoff with our local law enforment
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>>126471062
automatic weapons including machine guns are legal in most states in murica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqRNe_qTx7Y
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>>126447987
Police are no angels,but they keep the hordes on check. The deep state wants them to go full boot-on-throat and they seem to be winning.
I mean, you don't see APC's out in public 24/7 . It's usually just for hostage situations and riot control.Then again,it could just be a part of conditioning us to the sight of them for an eventual police state.
I'm not a bootlicker but I'm also not in favor of making the police submissive liberal bitches like Sweden
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>>126447987
They're protecting us from the negro.
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>>126453586
Im sure you'd love it when the (((authorities))) ram that big black APC through your garage and wedge yoir daughter and wife under their 30 inch tires you statist cuck
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MRAP?

more like BRAP amirite?
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>>126453821
Not all of us burgers are statist cucks
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>>126471315
>The US has had problems with organized crimes and rioting since the first world war you stupid nigger

Well well well...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Narcotics_Tax_Act

Invent problem, claim to be solution, problem gets worse, claim to be solution, rinse, repeat.
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>>126447987
what's wrong with that? having more police like that would stop somalia from being a bunch of niggers from rioting
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>>126450984
>The ATF used Abrams tanks to fill the Waco compound with flammables before setting it alight.
Police agencies have actual tanks ?
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>>126471407
>implying criminals are going to go through tons of paperwork and several months of waiting just so they can legally own the overpriced machine gun they want to use for a crime
Why the fuck wouldn't you get one from Mexico if you're a criminal?
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>>126469720
Holy shit, Finnish bootlegging from Estonia to get around government overreach?
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>>126472508
We have gotten our alcohol from Estonia for years but now Estonia is planning to make 24 pack of beer to cost over 20€ in next 2 years.
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>>126472078
Fed police do.
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>>126471963
Id expect an answer like that from a socialist shithole country withholding the right to bear arms.
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>meanwhile in AZ
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>>126473355
Ive heard that was a decommissioned tank and was being used as decoration by the town hall, anyone have confirmation of the contrary?
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>>126472801
They should do the opposite and reduce the booze tax to get a monopoly on Finnish alcoholism.
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>>126473355
>tank
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>>126473355
A war he indubitably lost.

>no alcohol
>no tobacco
What a fag. I love how he had him name prominently displayed, as if his massive ego said LOOK AT ME GUYS! I'M IMPORTANT!
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>>126473355
still not a tank. I haven't seen one fucking tank in this thread...
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>>126474347
Did you miss the Abrams above?
That's no fucking APC bud.
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>>126447987
The police face a greater threat from militant alt-right and religious fundamentalists.

This is literally meant for them. Name a single time these were needed for liberals.
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>>126472161
Full auto is pretty useless to criminals. Also most of the guns in Mexico come from the US.You can legally simulate full auto with a bump stock or binary trigger etc. but if you're a criminal with the IQ above that of a potato,you could easily (illegally) make it full auto.
I've done nasty work with an AR15 type full length rifles with a simple ACOG and Black Hills 77's . No fancy business.
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As long as they don't bother ordinary citizens with it I would be fine with them having these kind of toys.
If they use them to run over the extremists it's ok.
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>>126447987
I think police have a right to it, just cause the military uses them it doesn't mean shit. Police around the world use armoured cars, the issues is when the government takes away the capabilities to oppose them.
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>>126473355
Based Arpaio, that's how he herds the dindus and spics into his 5-star resort Tent City
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>>126448930

This is correct.
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>>126450711
This post is incorrect
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>>126477066
> most guns come from America

But that's fucking wrong. Brazil, Argentina and Columbia manufacture firearms that go up north
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>>126447987
they use them whether or not they have to..

offensive defense is a big business
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>>126447987
No, but cops being able to stop you, search you, detain you, or even break down your door and storm your house with a SWAT team for basically no reason at all, all suddenly count as living in a "police state"
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>>126455582
The gun mounts are retrofit with water canbons, or launchers for tear gas or bean bags. An armored police vehicle fitted w a .50 cal would be the embodiment of Chuck D's "Anti-Nigger Machine"
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>>126472078
IIRC, the tanks were from the Nat. Guard or a regular army unit and not specifically for the use of the FBI.
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>>126478395

This post is incorrect
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>>126447987
>"""police"" state
>no proper tanks
>no android policemen
>only some surplus armoured cars
This is not the future I was promised!
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How did this turn into...
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>>126447987
Wow, America so crazy.
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>>126468036
>Someone please explain how this would save my small town of 50,000 people money?
If it saves even one life, it saves a lifetime of paying compensation to the next of kin, widow's pension and etc.
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>>126447987
>not liking giant armored machines
are they seriously fucking gay
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>>126481934
Into this?
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>>126482698
Homopolice? very scary. Fight to the last round.
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>>126447987
>tfw living in one of those cities

OH FUGGGGG WHATTTT
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>>126447987
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>>126452664
As a hardcore liberal, People like this scare me
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>>126483990
>MCSO The Tank M1 Abrams (ps)-L.jpg
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>>126483990
That thing looks like a parody. How in fuck's name did an adult with enough intelligence to get into such a high position of authority pull that off?

I mean, look at it. Pay particular attention to the paint on the business end of the artillery.

You know what the thing reminds me of? An exhibition wheelstander drag car known as the Paddy Wagon I used to see at drag races as a kid.
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>>126448930
Depends on the county.
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>>126482698
That's got to be Trudeau's influence. They're really trying their hardest to make everyone feel welcome. Typical Canada. Even with a conservative leader.
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>>126452664
Stardust, buddy.
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>>126447987
Nah, but it does count as living in a 3rd world shithole.

Police state would be having people disappeared by the secret police and everyone's too scared to talk about it.
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>>126484493
its self propelled artillery, not a tank
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>>126484939
Practicing and testing the manufacture of homemade detonators was the second scariest thing I've ever done in life.
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>>126447987
>So is cops having armored vehicles to protect themselves suddenly count as living in a "police state"?

Liberals hate athority because in their minds, anyone who gets any remote sense of power, will quickly abuse it. I mean hell, look at the way Democrats act.

Police get big expensive toys, because we let people buy fucking Barrett 50 Cals to play with, along with an array of highly powerful weapons.

Gotta keep yourself protected.
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>>126447987
>Who licks the boot better: The Thread
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>>126485355
Tell us the first one please and cool stories about homemade detonators.
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>>126471578
hah!
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>>126485626
Hi there not ATF.
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>>126484493
You do realize it's just a prop.
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>>126485254
I know.

>>126485858
Yes. It's still obscene. Want proof? Make him keep it in his front yard permanently and see how long it takes for him, his wife, or his neighbors to voice disdain.

>>126485507
>Liberals hate athority because in their minds, anyone who gets any remote sense of power, will quickly abuse it.
1. Leftists love authority, as long as it's authority in their interests.
2. It's not that absolute power corrupts, it's that absolute power attracts corruption because it is powerful. Psychopaths crave power and control more than anything. Even money to them is merely a means to the end. Conversely, those best in a position to righteously hold power are either unwilling to take the role because they scorn controlling others, or are not willing to play dirty enough to beat their opponents also seeking that position.
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>>126485626
First one?
7 days awake on an NRDI known as a-PVP. Full-blown psychosis, depersonalization, shadow people everywhere. The plus side is, now that I've been truly insane, I can better get into the mind of actual psychotic people and see the world how they see it, albeit as an observer rather than an empathizer. This is a very powerful ability because it basically means I can't be fooled anymore by those in power. Once you know the game's rules, you can stop playing and watch as a spectator. You can not compete in a game where the rules are made by psychopaths who will think nothing of eating you alive to win.

As for detonator stories, two things.
One, very scary, requires absolute calm, do the math. It's hard
Two, stopped making explosives years ago. Too much of a legal danger, not worth it. But if I need to do it, I always can.
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>>126447987

Don't forget rubber burns easy.
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>>126447987

>Tampa, FL.
>St. Petersburg, FL.

We are good.
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>>126447987
You throw a big water balloon of latex paint at the winshield then set it on fire. Unless they are willing to unload on civilians with a M240 mounted on top these vehicles are useless.
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>>126479167
I know a massive amount of semi autos go south because my brother's a Deputy down there and has his ear to ground. They recover AR15's and .45's constantly.
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>>126448242
Christ alive, this. I can't fathom why people aren't more upset about all of the threats to these rights we have! They're under fire, and need to be protected.
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Three K's a day keeps the niggers away.

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P.S Fuck Niggers
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>>126489137
>BFG
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>>126490014
Willy, is that you!?
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>>126490014
>>BFG

And it is around $1000-$2000 cheaper than a Barrett 50 Cal...

It's still as expensive as a pretty good used car, but hey more money for the ammo.
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>>126490307
No, I'm Hunter Thompson's illegitimate half-4th cousin-in-law, Brandt Shines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHeSC_Ws5Ic
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>>126447987
Tampa and St. Petersburg, FL are both in the Tampa Bay area. We don't seem to have any terrible crime here, but we did have the riots in St. Pete 20 years ago. Tampa followed St. Pete after they deployed armored vehicles.

Yes, they're very necessary.
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>>126447987
Why do police need armored vehicles in lily white towns?
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>>126494168
In case whites want blacks to move there because they want more diverse faces
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