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Who would build the duck ramps in a libertarian society? ht

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Who would build the duck ramps in a libertarian society?

https://www.thedodo.com/in-the-wild/duck-ramps-capitol-pool
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>>126208724
Animal activists, those ramps are not expensive.
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>>126208724
A citizen who likes ducks I'd imagine.
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>>126208724
There would be no stone ledge built so a ramp would not be necessary.
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>>126208724

entrepreneurs would operate privatized toll ramps, of course
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>>126208724
I would to be honest mate I love ducks.
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>>126208993
and the handicapped ducks? Really short sighted and ignorant of you, man.
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>>126209252
Just an observation. I like ducks, so I'll build the ramps. I hope this settles everything.
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>>126209141

kek
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>>126208724
If it is libertarian, then it would be either animal activists or duck fans.
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>>126208724
what ducks, you mean lunch?
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>>126208724

The ducks
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really though why did republicans get triggered over duck ramps?
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>>126208724
IN CANADA DUCKS FLY INTO PONDS
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>>126209141
>eat crumbs from bread roll
>pay the toll


Seem perfectly fine to me.
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>>126209494
Imagine believing about what you do but a couple of years ago AIPAC sent a 15 year old girl to seduce you at a bar and filmed it and now you can't be mad at any of the real problems or they leak the tapes.
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>>126209494
No idea maybe they asked for a lot of money to build them?
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>>126209252
The Handiquacks
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I'll build a ramp to your ass, drive a Lionel up in there.
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Me
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>>126208724
They wouldn't be built. Only government agencies have ever built anything since the dawn of time.
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>>126208724
I would - ducks are nice to have around.
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I would charge the ducks gold backed currency to use my pond
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>>126209841
Lmao
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>>126208724
Our animal activist at work makes them free of charge.
People work on what they care about, Communism does not address that but Libertarianism does.
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>>126209646
>>126209762
Our ducks are too fat to fly.
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>>126208724
Libertarians BTFO
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>>126208724
Someone will have to take care of the bill.
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>>126208724
How will libertarians ever recover
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>When you feed the ducks arsenic-laced bread for using your McDuck-ramp without paying the toll
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I'll build em a ramp. Should take like 5 quid and an hour of work tops. Ducks are cute.
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Who needs ducks? There are too many already.
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>>126209762
we have mallards bro there fucking our black duck population out of extinction
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>>126209141
Top lel
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>>126210062
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That duck ramp looks too steep and would be slippery when wet duck feet were on that white painted surface.

This is a typical state-provided duck ramp. Very bad design created by a bureaucracy.

The duck ramps would be better designed and of higher quality in a libertarian society.
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>>126210163
pic related
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>>126210359
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>>126208724
In a libertarian society I would build a duck trap because I'm hungry
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>>126208724
>a fucking ramp
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>>126208724
Government ramps cost ten million dollars including a three year environmental case study.

Volunteer's ramps cost $5.
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libertarianism is a meme-ideology for naive cucks too scared to swallow the redpill
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>>126210540

this
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>>126208724
Duck ramps are cute. CUTE!
Wtf I hate libertarians now.
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>>126208724
>Ducks need a ramp
>Ducks can fly
What the fuck do they need a ramp?
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>>126210532
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>>126208724
Like any duck should, build their damn ramps by themselves.
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>>126210677
What about the disabled ducks
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>>126210427
>no green head
>no deserve to live
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnf9dfIlNRc
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>>126208724
Why does America has such shitty duck infrastructure. Look at that piece of shit one lane ramp
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>>126208724
Baby ducks are so fucking cute
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install some traps on that ramp and get rid of those pests

remember the six trillion, goy
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There would be no ducks, nobody to protect the ducks. The ducks would be killed within days of libertarians taking control.
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>>126209208
I feel you
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>>126210796
>BASF
He's probably carrying it to the gas chamber.
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>>126210677

these are socialist ducks.
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>>126209377
Say you're sorry
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>>126208724
That ramp is racist and not inclusive for ducks that cant read English.
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>>126208724
>please do not feed the ducks
>builds a fucking ramp for them to swim in an man-made pond
?
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>>126210677
Ducklings can't fly nigga.
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>>126211218
Survival of the fittest.
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>>126210540
>paint fades after only a year
>we needz more funds for dem duck programs!
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>>126210550
You dont swallow a statist "redpill", its a suppository.
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>>126210790
GAS THE DUCKS
DRAKE WAR NOW
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>build two ramp out of plywood and paint them
>$96,954
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>>126210904
That would violate the NAP and authorize the ducks to use Aflac-sponsored sarin gas on your family.
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A while back, I was out on a trail in my pickup, just having some fun offroading.
I came to a large tree that had fallen across the trail.
I could easily get around it on the side, and I did.
I then stopped on the other side, and winched the tree off the trail, so as to preserve the grass/plants and people could just drive through.

I was not paid, or hired to do this, I just did it because I had the means to, and I was there.

I'm sure someone would just get some wood and build a ramp for the ducks just because they wanted to. They see the ducks struggle to get up the wall with their babies and decide to fix it.
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>>126210677
Catapults are too expensive for ducks.
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>>126211449
>steal the ramp
>build another one
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>>126211336
one day you'll see the truth
everyone starts out as a regular libertarian, then you move on to Hoppe and after that you'll make the jump to fascism and natsoc
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>>126209494

They get mad whenever government money doesn't explicitly go to jews.
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wtf, im a communist now
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They would build a ramp that goes strait into a meat packing plant.
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>>126208724
OP falling for money is the only incentive or goal of Libertarian society meme.

I might ask (with equal stupidity) how such a ramp could exist without a law to mandate it's existence?
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>>126210677

Ducklings. Here's a video of them using it.

https://twitter.com/uscapitol/status/864564252702650370
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>>126208724
Retards. Ducks can fly.
>inb4 but what about muh baby ducks.
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>>126211288
There isn't a single ducking that cab fly, moron. They need to be cared for until they are "fit". That's what babies are.
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>>126211137
People like to dump bags of their old and hard bread into bodies of water "for the ducks". It's not suitable food for them and it also pollutes the water.
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>>126211288
There isn't a single duckling that can fly, moron. They need to be cared for until they are "fit". That's what babies are.
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>>126208724
cant ducks fly? who's been clipping the wings of wild ducks? probably the same guys being paid to build duck ramps by the state
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>>126210139
>Ducks are cute
I understand that feel, anon
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>>126212293
>inb4 but what about muh baby ducks.
Yeah, what about them?
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>>126208724
The ducks, obviously.
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duck ramps aren't exclusive to ducklings. goslings also use them.

sounds like a job for honk rearden
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>>126212289
>forces ducklings to climb up the ramp, to prove that you are not a fucking retard.
Fucking "animal lover" fascist.
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>>126212289
Awww those media idiots in the thread are so adorable. Not knowing anything made by the government is public domain. They're asking permission to use the clip. This is the state of journalism today...
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>>126208724

survival of the fittest if the ducks can't figure out how to get to water themselves they don't deserve to swim
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>>126212543
Im sure duck mommy will find a way around it or they will simply won't even go to that spot. Unlike human mothers, animal mothers are not retarded.
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>>126208724
>Who would build the duck ramps it there was no government
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>>126212435
think it's for the baby ducks
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>>126210427
your ducks are gay
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>>126211031
thats rich
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>>126209494
ducks can fly, dumbass libcucks
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>>126213609
the baby ducks can't, anon
think of the baby ducks
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>>126212019
>then you move on to Hoppe and after that you'll make the jump to fascism and natsoc
Nobody who goes to Hoppe regresses back to socialism, national or otherwise.
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>>126213609
think of all the duckramp workers who will be out of a job. this industry is too big to fail. people's families depend on it.
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>>126212791
>honk rearden
Commendable.
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>>126210790
"some animals in nature act gay on rare occasion, so its okay for humans to be gay"

Ducks gang rape the females and we aren't allowed to gang rape sluts? Fucking double standards.
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>>126213609
>ducks can fly

Baby ducks can't fly. those ramps come in handy for that so the parent ducks and lead the babies on the ramps and into the water.
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If evolution was real those baby ducklings should have no need for a ramp.
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>>126213521
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>>126208724
what's the point, there would be no roads to drive there and build the boat ramp that no one would build
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>>126213779
i did, when i wasn't a reclusive teenager anymore
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>>126213721
>>126213845
>>126213925
fuck them
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>>126213609
I have see them fly
>American Education
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>>126213856
thanks. i was really looking forward to some recognition for that. now i can leave the office.
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>>126209494
because they're dipshits

>>126213609
>ducklings exist

>>126214225
>i was proven wrong so i better be a dumbass!
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In an ancap society they'd have escalators
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>>126208724
There would be no duck or ramps because everything would be like mad max fury road
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>>126213779
it's a smaller step than you might think mate, Hoppe is a closet-fascist himself. The man clearly states that his intentions were to create a society that is libertarian on economic topics but fascist on social topics. Now I admire him for trying but in the end his fantasy couldn't work unless you live in a society of only white males with an IQ > 120. You need a government to keep the degeneracy of the free market in check.
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the ducks would pay for a license to the owner of the barrier for passage rights and then erect the ramp themselves.
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>>126209141

toppest kek
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>>126209646
A fucking leaf
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>>126214110
Faggot, oppsite happened to me i was full natsoc then i put some thought on how to prevent natural corruption of men, you can't and since the state will always corrupt since it just men. The only solution would be the abolistion of states, or some ai solution
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>>126208724
those who tell the government to build them
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>>126212044
Meh, Jews don't deserve any more money. Let them dry out their bank accounts.
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>>126213925

there is a reason ducks have so many babies, it's cause only 3 are meant to survive in their entire lifetime of breedin.
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>>126212458
UNF MORE!
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>>126214648
corruption only occurs in subhumans, it isnt natural. it is a perversion, gas solves the problem
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>>126208724
>Please do not feed the ducks

Why? Ducks are pretty damn bro tier when being fed.
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>>126214835
https://e621.net/post/index/1/daisy_duck
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let them die.
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>>126214648
>i'm too much of a pussy to get bloody for the sake of purifying the corruption that grows in the state
you're right, anon, that IS the opposite of not being a reclusive teenager
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>>126212044
this
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>>126214943
Mostly because people bring shitty bread that is bad for the ducks, and it fucks up the water
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>>126214577
The idea that need a government to keep degeracy in check is flawed to begin with, as pre FRANKFURT'D was fine with its limited gov, its always the jews that get into power that puah this degeracy, amd neocon types will always push their shitty ahenda cause they blend to well
>you say degeracy is brought to ny the people and kept in check by the gov
>that is not so
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>>126215148
>not feeding the ducks chicken
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>>126208724
speaking of ramps...
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>>126215063
Im a pussy? really faggot? As soon as you rise up and start shooting jews i will join you
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>>126215283
Great now we're going to get mad duck disease
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>>126208724
>Who would build the duck ramps in a libertarian society?

Charities would do so. People love animals and would happily donate to look after them. Before the government paid for shit like this normal people did it themselves.
Libertarianism doesn't prevent people from funding good causes, helping the needy or contributing to public works. It just prevents you from using violence against others and then justifying it by claiming it was for a good cause.
If you want to save ducklings you have to do it yourself or convince other people to help you do it.
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>>126208724
beavers
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>>126214930
It is natural, but its corrected by family, which is why the jews FRANKFERT'D us to destroy our familys and relationships
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>>126215522
Also random people would, i even a two by 4 would work, a jogger could put it there, evem though i suppose its irresponsible, its valid
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“What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”


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“Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?”

It didn’t seem like they did.
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>>126215416
mad cow disease isnt real, it was just the kikes covering up a kuru outbreak since the percentage of goy meat in fastfood "beef" was increased too rapidly
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>>126215711
“Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.”

Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.
I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it.

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Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.

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“Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”
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>>126215398
Yes you are a coward. you don't wanna have to deal with the negatives of government, like all our ancestors did for millennia before us, so your answer is to tear down the whole thing.
the thing that advanced our civilizations to what they are today.

When we rise up it's not gonna be just jews that are shot. You sure you'll join us?
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>>126215760
I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.

“Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.”

He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me for arresting him.
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>>126208724
Voluntarily funded animal activist groups, or the average person if they wanted to. You just need a few boards and some paint
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I would build that for free out of some shipping pallets and not raise your taxes way more than those things actually cost.
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>>126215711
>>126215760
>>126215801
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people who enjoyed going to the park would pay the owner and entry fee and he would use the money to maintain the park to the liking of his customers i.e helping the wildlife fit in with the built environment
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>>126214110
>le edgy teenager maymay

>>126214577
If you had read Hoppe's works, you would understand that he makes the case that it is precisely the free market that eliminates degeneracy most efficiently. The existence of a state opens the door to degeneracy and (((antisocial influences))), because he who controls the state (and by extension, the media and academia) controls the direction society is headed. When degenerates are left to fend for themselves in the free market, you will see their eventual elimination. Only wholesome, self-sustaining societies can flourish in the crucible of pure competition and property rights.

As I said, it's regression. If you understand Hoppe's arguments, rather than just jumping on the bandwagon for the snek memes, you could not switch to advocating for statism and socialism.
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the amount of libs ITT actually doing their best to explain who will build the duck ramps
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>>126208724
pretty fucking sure birds have wings
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>>126215774
Yea that is the answer for a reason, this society would work only with smart whites i feel it as an end goal though a long process in which fascisim is only the first step. also why do you suppose it is government that spurs on invention? That is false i think
Also, you don't seem to understand what physical removal is
>protip:they are ALL commies
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>>126208724
This is cute, who's being a faggot about this?
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Wild ducks wouldn't exist in a libertarian society since there wouldn't be an economic motivator to preserve them
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>>126216440
No no no no, not edgy teenager. Reclusive teenager. The ones that yell at mommy to stay out of their room.
neonazis and stormfags are the edgy teenagers

>When degenerates are left to fend for themselves in the free market, you will see their eventual elimination.
Tell us why a free market cares more about the long-term health of society than short-term profits.

>because he who controls the state (and by extension, the media and academia) controls the direction society is headed.
pussies don't know what revolution is?
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>>126216478
We don't much a chance to debate desu, our generals are image dumps and troll debating
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>>126208975
this should've been /thread right here. Not that complex, really
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>>126216656
>this society would work only with smart whites
untrue
>why do you suppose it is government that spurs on invention?
Government creates the environment that allows invention to happen, and then applies it to a larger scale.

>physical removal
LARPing, i reckon. Remove them to where? Everywhere is ancapistan, right?
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>>126208724
looks like a road to me
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>>126208724
>Who would build the duck ramps in a libertarian society?

>Implying the river wasn't a toxic wasteland already
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>>126208724
Whoever the fuck wanted the ducks to have a god damn ramp.
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>>126209208
you would love to mate ducks?
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>>126217389
removal from existence
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>>126210062

kek
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>>126210271
sauce on this image, please
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>>126217691
so you're up for killing millions of people for following an ideology but the prospect of culling corruptions from government is just too much?
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>>126217575
>He doesn't mate ducks
Check out this pleb leaf
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>>126208724
there would be such an amount of garbage accumulated in that corner that would act as a natural ramp and you wouldn't need anyone to build one
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>>126218047
uhhh im not the libtardarian anon. im uberfascist. kill them all
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>please do not feed the ducks
Trying to keep me from feeding the ducks violates the NAP
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>>126217389
I suppose other smart people of some race could intergrate, but very few in number
Setting up the environment is a false statement, those places, universities and labs, come into existance though private means, be it a noble, compamy or foundation.
Once they are given grants its usually for stupid shit like the life of a snake, this move production from whatever good thing it could have been focuses on something inefficient
You were just telling me your ready to edgelord it up and purge people, yet physical removal is larping? Hilter physically remove undesirables by exporting them and the eventually creation of ethmostate for various places
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>>126218434
oh, carry on
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>>126209141
in exchange for duck labor
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>>126217814
No man, this is 100% Blacked stuff.
You don't want to see the source
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>>126211674
I would use it as a McNugget Trap
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>>126208724
>helping ducks to violate the NAP
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That's a pretty cool ramp. Best slide thread all day
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>>126208724
>I pay 50 + % of my earnings for a duck ramp under statism
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>>126209494

Because $40 duck ramps are bad, but Melania living in a Golden Tower for $300,000/month protections is OKAY!
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>>126208724
People who like ducks
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>>126218714
Whites aren't the smartest race, anon. Even if we were, we wouldn't be that far separate from the runner-ups that they wouldn't be able to pull it off as well.

You think universities and laboratories could just exist out in a village in the middle of the wilderness, anon? Government is also the reason those nobles and their businesses could exist as well.
Government is what made the difference between small, nomadic hunter-gatherer tribes and sprawling, populous city centers in which stuff could exist beyond whatever was essential for people's immediate survival.

purging isn't edgelording it up, it's a natural part of civilization. Happened all throughout history, and now you wanna pussy out.

and as for Hitler's physical removals, he was the dictator of an authoritarian, socialist, ultranationalist country. Almost the antithesis of Ancapistanis
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>>126219824
Well, that's just sort of unsettling
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>>126213609

IT was for the baby ducks, who tourists will often scoop up and put in the reflecting pool and they can't get out.

They die of starvation or exhaustion.
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>>126219824
do those clumsy fuckers actually make it down the other side without cracking themselves open?
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>>126219917
Imagine if you were in a truck and you hit the bridge, and it flew up and over, and hundreds of crabs poured all over you
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>>126219989
tourists should be gassed
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>mother duck waddles towards me with ducklings in tow
>fails to realize i am the apex predator of all apex predators
>fails to realize that my spacial requirements are FAR greater than a duck's
>as such, the duck and ducklings have now entered into my domain
>the non-aggression principal (NAP) has now been violated
>you know what must happen next
>i mount a short but quick retreat to a safer position
>i whip out my super sized davy mccrockett (credits to ronald mcdonald's ballistics and missiles LLC) and take aim at the mother duck
>i abstain from firing, realizing an opportunity has made itself known to me
>i whip out my lenovo L769 smart phone and call in my private militia
>with utmost speed, they move in and seize the ducklings from their mother
>having expanded my ability to tend to my personal farm agriculture, i am now free to respond to the NAP violator
>in addition to my mcnuke, i decide to rely on a single abercrombie and fitch brand chlroine trifluoride grenade as to land a test blow against this dastardly bitch duck
>nail the increasingly aggressive duck right in her bitch face with my a&f ClF3 grenade
>fire off the mcnuke i got in a happy meal and get the hell out of dodge
>watch the fireworks from a distance

>tfw libertarian paradise
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>>126220308
Time to fire up the barbie m8
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>>126219824
what is this and how do we stop it
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>>126220614
some crab bridge in australia somewhere

we have this thing where like a million crabs migrate or some shit, and they're dumb as fuck and just walk down the road and get crushed, so we gotta build these things so they don't go extinct from landcruisers
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>>126216974
>Tell us why a free market cares more about the long-term health of society than short-term profits.
A free market doesn't "care" about anything. It is not some conscious entity. It is merely people producing and consuming, buying and selling, according to the values that they hold. It is those values that destroy or elevate a particular society.

In a free market, nigger-tier societies would go down the drain extraordinarily quickly, whether through passive starvation, or through defensive force in reaction to their chimpouts. When you cannot force someone else to give you handouts, you must rely on your own capacity to produce something worthwhile to exchange with someone else. This renders degenerates with a high time preference ultimately penniless and unable to breed enough surviving children to carry on their defective genes.

Now, within the Hoppean libertarian framework, natsocs societies can exist, provided they exist on private property, participation within those societies is voluntary, and they do not make aggressive threats against other landowners.
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>>126219824
in a libertarian society that wouldnt need to exist
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>>126220918
It's on Christmas Island.
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>>126219913
whites are just a weird freak group that generally values freedom and free speech
this is never seen in any other group anywhere
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>>126209646
fucking quack'd
underrated post.

anyone building duck ramps is an idiot, they fucking fly.
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>>126221174
kek
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>>126219824
>crabs can climb a 25' wall of concrete with nothing to grab onto
>can't climb a 6" wall of cheap plastic or something
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>>126220308

Gentlemen, I think we found a solution to the peace truck epidemic. None will dare drive a truck into a large crowd anymore for fear of the Allahu Crabbar bridges.
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>>126221599
You put crabs in a bucket and they're like crabs in a bucket.
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>>126221174
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>>126221599
the goal is to not get run over by cars, much like the pedestrian walkways near schools that cross major roads
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>>126208975
>>126217331
The pipe is on someone else's property. Building on that property would violate the NAP. Activating the heat seeking laser shooting assault ducks
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>>126208724
so are these things patented yet?
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>>126222184
>someone else's property
yeah, the person that likes duck ramps, we know
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>>126219913
Never said whites are smartest, but non homogeneous society decay and die, thats the point.

did you read what i said? These place werent made a government, these place were city states forst and them formed unions with other city states, those are not big governments, only because the cannot be tyranical as people can easily leave, less easy to do here.
Government wasnt what caused populous citystates, private interests did
Im hoppen libertarian bruh, we are stateless 14/88
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>>126219824
How long is that plastic fence and how many of these crab bridges are there?
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>>126209377
>I like ducks
A noble sentiment.
Ducks don't always get the respect they deserve.
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>>126208724
Cucke's would bild them
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>>126221079
Don't be pedantic instead of addressing the point
>It is those values that destroy or elevate a particular society
And when you gimp yourself by restricting the enforcement of those values based on economic darwinism, you get overtaken by the rest of the world.

>you must rely on your own capacity to produce something worthwhile to exchange with someone else.
This is a lie, unless you understand that "something worthwhile" is called "capital" and the lowest possible effort required to produce it is zero. But that would counter your point, as zero effort required to produce capital leaves all the time in the world for degeneracy.

>natsocs societies can exist, provided they exist on private property, participation within those societies is voluntary, and they do not make aggressive threats against other landowners
Doesn't sound very natsoc to me, desu.
This ancap business claims to know competition=innovation, but if advancing the human species is your aim and not just mingling in stagnant mediocrity, why don't you want to apply it to where it's most effective?
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>local city gov't spends a few bucks to install a ramp to help the little ducklings get to the water
>libertarians in this thread start autistically screeching
TOP KEK. Can't make this shit up.
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>>126221599
The bridge is so the crabs can avoid the traffic. Unfortunately it's over Mr. Goldstein's McHighway Corp. ™ with subscription offers starting at the low price of $100 a month for local roads not exceeding 45 mph. Upgrade to $150 for the next tier and have access to highways with speeds restricted to 60 mph.
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>>126222517
>but non homogeneous society decay and die, thats the point.

But that's false. Only homogeneous societies decay and die. Look at Japan, perfectly homogeneous and the country is dying. White people are complaining about birth-rates, meanwhile Japan's population literally decreased by 1 million from 2011 to 2015.

Japan has excellent healthcare and a tiny amount of infant mortality rate, so it's nothing that has to do with health concerns. It's just that homogeneous societies start dying pretty quickly without immigration.
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>>126208724
>your local sales taxes hard at work
nobody. duck ramps existing is cringeworthy. if you don't want ducks on your sidewalk shoot/trap them and make some soup.
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>>126222517
Sounded like you were saying only white people would be able to make ancap work.

And yeah I did read what you said.
>city states
>states
>not big governments
Moving the goal posts.
City states are weaker than larger states, and can't accomplish as much as larger states, hence why they were united into larger states.
Tyranny comes from corruption. purge purge, problem solved.

>Government wasnt what caused populous citystates, private interests did
Private interests can only expand beyond a person's immediate survival because of government. A centralized structure of authority organizing things, so that nobody's having to fend for themselves.

>stateless 14/88
14 maybe. But you're still gonna be doing less towards that than natsoc is.
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>>126208724
Anyone who likes ducks.
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>>126222184

Trespassing doesn't allow for people to murder someone.

You still need to be under threat of your life.
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>>126223478
> A fucking leaf
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>>126223854
then whats the pount of libtardarian societies if you dont even get to kill trespassers?
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>>126223854
a friendly shove to the sidewalk would be in order
>but i'm in a wheelchair
so use a taser
>but the guy's on meth and pcp
then call the police
>but he's fucking with my lawn gnomes
ok shoot him in the face
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>>126224064
Prove me wrong.

In fact, if the US was homogeneous too, it would be decaying as well, because in the United States, whites are the only people with a higher mortality rate than birthrate (More white people dying than are being born).

There you have it people, homogeneous societies decay and die. There's no going around it, Japan perfect example.
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>>126222842
>you get overtaken by the rest of the world.
No, you don't. Governments have tried time and time again to steer their countries toward the "correct" values, and have failed just as many times. Ancaps understand that the problem is rooted deeper in the incentive structures underlying societies, and not simply with the specific formulation of government (which is the "not true socialism" line of reasoning). The free market, or economic darwinism, as you put it, offers strong selective pressures while also immune to the same perversions that governments are subject to.

>unless you understand that "something worthwhile" is called "capital" and the lowest possible effort required to produce it is zero
What? Labor is just as worthwhile as capital goods. All things that are worthwhile need greater than zero effort. Furthermore, what relevance does this have to the discussion?

>advancing the human species is your aim
It isn't, because that's a purely subjective goal. For anyone who claims they want to do so, how do they determine what constitutes "advancement"? For example, the SJWs would argue that they want the advanced human race to be nice, peaceful, multicultural and multiracial people with a wide spectrum of sexual orientations and identities. White supremacists argue that advancement means a homogenous heterosexual white species with zero degeneracy. They both claim that their version of advancement is the one true definition.

>why don't you want to apply it to where it's most effective
That is precisely what I want to do. Government cannot decide where that point is, the market can. The results will speak for themselves, in true Darwinist fashion.
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>>126223854
the more universal rules you add, the further ancap is from ever even coming close to reality
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>>126223854
Building duck ramps and crab bridges violates the NAP if it's built over someone elses property

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle
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>>126223478
>Japan is dying
Define "dying" and back up your shit leaf.
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>>126224148
you could alwais make them captive, fry their brains with psychedelics and claim them as your property
a vegetable fuckdoll never says no
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>>126222184
Ask for the right and if they refuse offer to pay them.
>Hey can I put this duck ramp on your property?
>No.
>What if I give you 10 bucks?
>Okay, but don't fuck up my pipes
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>former ancap, now pragmatist righty minarchist
just thought of this for the first time...forget about muh roads. who would build the sewers and where would all the shit go?
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>>126224651
What could dying mean other than having your population decrease?

I am not talking about social or cultural decay, no that is subjective. I am talking about literally dying, meaning a population is decreasing instead of increasing, which is objective. I'm just pointing out the fact that one of the most technologically advanced, safest, prevalent culture and healthiest countries in the world is decaying. This is the fate of all white nations without a tiny bit of immigration.
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>>126224555
Well libertarians aren't ancaps so I don't see why libertarians would care about that.
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>>126224929
how would stefbot insurance security companies solve that one?
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>>126224555
also
ANYONE BUILDING DUCK RAMPS IS A FUCKING RETARD BECAUSE THEY FLY.
/slide thread.

what is being slid right now?
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>>126224833
im not john podesta, that doesnt appeal to me.
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>>126208724
A fucking ramp? Who built that? The British or Russian Navy?
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>>126225130
>talking to myself more
every building could just have its own septic tank
>but muh skyscrapers
yuuuuuuge septic tanks
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>>126215367
Torpedo los!
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>>126223478
>overpopulated country is becoming a bit less overpopulated just while automation is taking off

oy vey they're doing terrible!
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>>126224651
Apologies for the lack of sources, here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Japan#Population_density

Japanese population in 2010 :128,057,352
Japanese population in 2015 :127,094,745
Estimated Japanese population of 2017: 126,760,000

That is catastrophic.

Also, I really can't find the official statistic talking about white decline in the US anymore, even though I did read about it before. So instead, I'm going to say in many US states white pops are declining

http://time.com/4585232/white-deaths-exceed-births-united-states/

https://sputniknews.com/society/201612031048119606-us-white-population-drastic-decline/
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>>126225496
you have to go back
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>>126224148
>walking down a busy McSidewalk™
>get bumped by the guy walking past you, stumble onto someone's lawn
>instantly blown apart by homeowner's 30mm autocannon
Libertarians understand proportionality.

If someone mistakenly wanders onto your property, it is not acceptable to fill them full of holes. If someone climbs over your fence in order to get on your property, or keeps trespassing repeatedly, you have the right to sell their organs at the General Motors Health Emporium™.
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>>126224929
>who would build the sewers and where would all the shit go?
Mr. Silverblatt would probably use the profits from his child slave TOW missile factory and invest in a subscription based sewer company and have to partner with the private road companies. Five thousand dollar sewer hook up fee. And $25 per month for the basic subscription that covers up to 10 cubic feet of volume per month.
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>>126225497
>Overpopulation

That's a meme. There's no such thing in 99% of the world. Even China, the country you would expect to be the most populated in the world due to an overwhelming population density in coastal cities, had to drop it's One Child policy since the birth-rates were plummeting to the point of population decrease.

Countries are huge and vast.
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>>126225705
>plausible, just not in any of our lifetimes
lol. then when you stopped paying, your toilets back up and flood over to your neighbor's property and they hire the stefbot insurance security guys to shake you down right?
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>>126224457
>if the US was homogeneous too, it would be decaying as well
Detroit is looking fine, so diverse.
>There's no going around it, Japan perfect example.
Yes, this country is pretty similar to Somalia right now, what a shame. Idiot.

The United states and Europe is decaying BECAUSE of heterogenity. The problem is niggers and shitskins, not the fact that we don't live in poverty and famine and need to have 11 kids on the off chance that a couple live.
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>>126225705
what happens when silverblatt, goldberg, and shekelstien end up owning the PMCs, roads, sewers, food companies and land, and then decide to parter up?
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>>126209141
How would the ducks pay for it?
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>>126225932
There are more ways to be overpopulated than resource-wise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
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DEUS VULT

If you hate niggers, jews, spics, arabs, faggots, commie scum as much as we do and you want to raid some tranny server once in a while, you should join the official Moon Central Discord! White people only. Introduce yourself in #introductions

https://discord.gg/rDSBTgq

1, 2, 3 ,4 I declare a race war!
Join us and lynch a nigger tonight!

14/88,
The Triple K Mafia

P.S Fuck Niggers
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>>126226273
oh they would pay

with their lives!!! muahahaha
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>>126224929
Same as the roads, whoever owns the property. I think most people would enjoy sewage services to their houses, so they would contract with whichever company offers that service before their house gets built. Maybe with some clause locking in sewage treatment costs for some period of time, so as to prevent companies from jacking up prices on a captive market.

If you don't like it, put in a septic tank and fuck off.
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>>126212289
>half of the ducklings don't even get on the ramp

evolution in progress
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>>126226176
I don't see Honda, Toyota, GM, Subaru, and Ford partnering up. Why do you think that is?
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>>126226555
>checked
you win. let me know when this starts actually happening though.
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>>126210062
quack'd hard
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>>126226080
That would be a problem. That's why you either get the $50 a month premium level sewer subscription that allows unlimited sewage. Or invest in some TurboPro ™ defense bots equipped with infrared vision and custom caliber automatic LMGs.

>>126226176
Then they can force buy all the property in the area and conquer the rest with the nigerian child reserve army setting up an exclusive community anyone can live in on the condition of 20% of profits go to the Silverblatt, Goldberg, and Shekelstein Corporation ™.
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>>126226695
Government anti-monopoly policies.
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>>126226095
Looks like we have a different definition of social decay.

You say USA and Europe are decaying because of x, I say are they really decaying? USA, Northwestern Europe, Canada and Australia are the apex of civilizations, with the highest living standards in the entire world, yet they're also known for being diverse and in some cases like the US, having been diverse.

If the West remained homogenous, we would've ended up just like Japan. You're probably too young to know this but Japan used to be the equivalent of modern China back in 1980's. It's economy was extremely powerful and was set to become the most powerful economy in the world with the highest living standards.

Then decay happened. The Japanese boom died, the population started dying and it's now fading to irrelevancy. Ever since PM Shinzo Abe took power, the Jap economy only increased by ~2.2% in nearly 10 years. Japan is proof that even with a homogeneous smart and capable people, decline is bound to happen.
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>>126224460
Yes, you do. That's why societies under authoritarian governments exist all throughout history, whilst there's not one single example of a functional, large scale anarchy.
>Governments have tried time and time again to steer their countries toward the "correct" values, and have failed just as many times.
Perfect solution fallacy? Are you assuming anything besides 100% adherence to a value is failure on the part of the government that's trying to institute it? Otherwise, you're just lying.

>The free market offers strong selective pressures
And that selective pressure is exclusively centered on who is best at not going bankrupt.
>while also immune to the same perversions that governments are subject to
The people who participate in the free market aren't. Offering it up as a "replacement" for government is fallacious.

>Labor is just as worthwhile as capital goods. All things that are worthwhile need greater than zero effort.
This is false and you know it. And I'm using Marx's terminology; "capital" is anything you're using to create profit.
That's how you survive in a capitalist society. Your argument was that degeneracy would die out naturally, but that isn't the case, because there are means of creating profit that involve zero effort. People pursuing those means would have all the time in the world to be degenerate. It actually wouldn't even be appropriate to call them degenerate in this kind of society, since they're "advancing", by the terms set.

>That is precisely what I want to do.
No it's not.

>Government cannot decide where that point is, the market can.
Nature decides. Governments and markets both are subject to natural law.

> The results will speak for themselves, in true Darwinist fashion.
They already have spoken. See the very first point I raised in this post.
Your system is far less complex than any others that existed throughout history, so there's no excuse for why it shouldn't have been applied by now if it were actually viable
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>>126226913
>sewage defense bots
now that would be a feat of advanced technology
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>>126226695
They have partnered up in the past...
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>>126226777
It started
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One duck would make a ramp business and be successful selling Ramps™ to other ducks
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>>126208724
Me. I love animals.
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>>126208724
wtf ducks can fly they don't need ramps
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>>126226913
i think it would end up more like india where people shit in random places and lack soap and deodorant.
>learning experience
>this is not the real communism yet
>this is not the real ancap yet

>>126227236
only in rural india
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>>126223579
I was saying smaller state the better and if i had to chose a tried and tested government type it would be the city state, being weaker on a state level is good thing when you consider outsode authority to be bad.
Are you saying the universities and moderen labs are government made? Or were they made by entrepreneurs, wealthy nobles, and foundations?
The old kings didn't fund things though exclusively taxes, they used they're considerable private estates amd holdomg for that
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>>126224856
Dont you get it? The instant the state disappears everyone turns into murderous demons with no values or respect for anything.

>be me
>living the dream in libertarian city
>go outside
>cough, violating the nap
>anti-anti nap squad comes in with MEGA DICK 3000000000 and rapes me til i black out
>put my dead body in a meat grinder
>sell meat to local McDonalds (trademark)

^^this is how a libertarian society would be
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>>126226995
really makes u think
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>>126227448
at least you don't live in sweden
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>>126226414
There is still much living room in Japan. Japan has always been known for having a very little amount of natural resources, but for having large amounts of human resources (smart people).

I agree that if places get too crowded like in Hong Kong or Singapore, being overpopulated might actually be bad for the nation, but that is not Japan's case. Japan's people are hard-working and competitive, the more people there are, the better results are produced. Yet it's still decaying, why?

Trust me, in a few decades, Japan will start importing immigrants worldwide and become (((diverse))) just like the West. This is one of the few things I'm nearly certain are going to happen.
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>>126227252
I like this idea.

Do animals have trade rights in libertarianism?
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>>126227691
only monsanto chimeras
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>>126208724
wtf i love facism now
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>>126227446
>when you consider outside authority to be bad
Why would you? "Outside" authority is the essence of civilization.
>Are you saying the universities and moderen labs are government made?
I'm saying government is the reason they were ABLE to be made. And why people were able to be entrepreneurs and wealthy nobles, instead of having to worry about hunting for next week's food or defending themselves from getting pillaged by every tribe that passes by.
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>>126228311
>His tribes didn't smoked non agression treaties.
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>>126215801
> not realizing that shit-tier article was written in the Jew Yorker

NatSocs, Libertarians, & Fascists have quite a few things in common & failing to acknowledge that fact is a tool of (((them))) to further divide rational white individuals
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>>126221079
I just love coming to /pol/ and reading the word "nigger" typed by virtually all existing nations with internet connection.
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>>126227691
>Do animals have trade rights in libertarianism?

The McChicken animal farm Corporation has used it's profits to purchase and copyright the genetic code of of Gallus gallus domesticus mcdonaldcus a special genetically modified chicken. This species at least does not have rights and is entirely owned by the corporation.
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>>126228792
The notion of rational white individuals being united in any sense beyond being rational and white is >>>>stormfaggotry
Doesn't matter much if we have specific things in common if our methods and our endgoals are incompatible.
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>>126228933
This species was specially modified for profit with now 20% more edible body mass, 10% less bones, and 25% more delicious. This species is unable to walk because of how fat it is and is unable to run away. The Donald Duck Farm corporation has a similar set up with it's duck farm.
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oh wait oh wait i know this one!
it'd be /u/fuckswithducks.
We did it Reddit!
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Whoever loves ducks, you duck hating piece of shit!
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>>126228933
But we still have nature, how ould you deal with naturally born species that produce market goods.

Like sheeps, do you have a way to retribute those sheeps for the goods you take?
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>>126209141
lmao
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>>126226273
with bills
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>>126227121
by the looks of that piece of shit they wont be partnering up again
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>>126212312
>They need to be cared for until they are "fit". That's what babies are.
Fucking socialist
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>>126208975
Can't go build *rubbish on others property
> implying public sector city planning isn't what opens for and create these type of advanced infrastructure. Often hit-or-miss but still its something
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>>126228311
I believe civilization stems from a man owning land and being able to do woth it what he pleases without interference from a king, dictator, senate, or anything else he does not volunteer, with the penalty being aggression, by jailing, having land taken away, people making him a pariah in the outside community. Any libertarians of my ilk would start our own voluntary covenants without a monopolization on violence, very important as that is the the direct cause of tyranny amd corruption why they've disarmed as many as possible.
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>>126229611

Severely underated
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>>126220918
>and they're dumb as fuck and just walk down the road and get crushed
maybe you should build some abbo bridges then
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>>126229398
Depends on whose property they are on and what the property owners plan on doing to wild stray animals wandering.
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>>126230036
>Can't go build *rubbish on others property

Who owns the property?
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>>126212044
this.
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>>126230081
It's from a man owning land and being told what to do with it by an involuntary government that's making sure what he does with it is, first and foremost, beneficial for the society as a whole.

>Any libertarians of my ilk would start our own voluntary covenants
Where? All the land is claimed by countries.
And there's no such thing as monopoly on violence. If there were, revolutions wouldn't be a thing.
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>>126231053
Not the creative mind behind something like this atleast
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>>126231413
But how did those old nobility gain their wealth is not though unrestricted trade? Land is everywhere, you can buy 400 acre for 20000 if you look at forclosed lots
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>>126216149
ditto.

nice job, leaf. kek-inducing and thought-provoking. polished, engaging. only a few degrees removed from a "the caves of steel" level achievement.
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But ducks can fly...
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>>126209208
Ducks are pretty based. They're simple creatures that like to swim and like to eat bread. Very relatable.
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>>126208724

Ducks can fly..........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
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>>126232213
>>126232472
BABY DUCKS CAN'T FLY
WHAT ABOUT THE DUCKLINGS
STOP FORGETTING ABOUT THE DUCKLINGS

YOU FAGGOTS
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>>126231966
How did they have anything to trade in the first place?
What stopped their products and their wealth from just being stolen?

Those 400 acres are still the territory of whatever country you bought them in.
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>>126210151
fuck you
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>>126229611

lel
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>>126224936
>Japan is dying

Why is that, do you think?

Japanese culture? Porn and anime subverting, or redirecting, the male interest in reproduction? Or is it the fault of women?
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>>126219824
Climbing the dominance hierarchy
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>set up duck ramp
>ducks able to travel freely
>other water fowls begin using ramp
>hire frogs to defend duck ramp
>frogs successfully police the ramp and make sure only ducks get through
>reports surface that frogs are charging the ducks an extra toll to pass
>those who can't afford must pay with sex (male or female don't matter, the frogs are turning gay)
>frogs decline peace talks, declare the duck ramp a free state
>you fire 70 white phosphorous bombs at the newly formed Frog Republic of Rampopia
>kill not only the frogs but the the ducks, everything in the river and for several surrounding street blocks
>go home and shitpost on /pol/
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>>126227448
Nah, you've got it all wrong.
>Step outside onto sidewalk I have purchased a subscription for carrying my sidewalk ID in case someone checks
>Get into my car on drive on the roads that I have a subscription to carrying another ID
>Enter the starbucks for my morning coffee stepping onto another sidewalk owned by a different company luckily I have a subscription and an ID
>Get in line at starbucks and wait for my turn to order
>Order and thank the woman up front thanking her
>I called her ma'am and she doesn't identify with those pronouns, I have broken the NAP
>She draws a gun on me but she hasn't earned her company firearms badge and thus isn't allowed to bring her gun into starbucks
>She has broken the NAP
>Before she can open fire on me her manager executes her for breaking the NAP

In reality an ancap world would be full of subscriptions, company cards, and microtransactions. Honestly getting shot for coughing sounds better.
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>>126233891
Some might be inclined to say that it was due to the 2008 economic depression, which has made many young people decide to not care about relationships since they are too expensive, but Japan's decline had already started in the early 1990's.

My personal opinion, and I restate that this is my opinion, is that the Japanese people are starting to find family life not important. Japanese culture puts an important emphasis on hard work and productiveness, but even if it did care about family traditions, it would still have relationship problems due to people putting their careers over their own families.

I see this also happening in the West, but white people were smart enough to bring in some cultures that are much more pro-family, hinging the balance. If you've ever visited third world countries, you'd see that for them family is much more important than personal economic success, which isn't the case in the West.

I'm not advocating mass-migration, not miss-migration is bad and it incites public disorder to home communities feeling threatened. But a little immigration with extreme vetting can do much to help the country.
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>>126234066
>being a nigger
>walk in the street past the other guy
>you make him see your niggerness
>it violates nap
>he takes out a gun and shoots you
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