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How did YOU survive the 2008 mega-recession? oldfags get

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How did YOU survive the 2008 mega-recession?

oldfags get the FUCK in here
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I lived in Texas. We didn't have a recession.
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I didn't.
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>>126118399
I voted Obama. The economy always gets better under Democrats and crashes under Republicans.
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>>126118399
>08
>oldfags
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It wasn't too bad in Connecticut either. My employer didn't give raises/bonuses in 2008/2009, but otherwise it was OK.
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>>126118530
God bless it.
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Harper bailed out the banks behind the scenes. It was business as usual aside from a small economic downturn.
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moved to Costa Rica
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>>126118399
>2008
>old fags

Nigger I've been working since 1998. You get a stable career and you don't have anything to worry about.

Don't live in a liberal shithole city and you don't have to worry about being unemployed.
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>>126118399
I lived in Tasmania. The government gave everyone on welfare an additional $1000 to spend on "economic stimulation". Twice. And ohh, how we spent it.

It didn't work, because the central bank of Australia fucked our system on purpose in collusion with all the other central banks. And they plain out said the reason was so that laws could change to make Australia more open to foreign ownership. So by the end of the year it was tourism hell and sammiches cost ten fucking dollars. I escaped to the netherlands and immediately committed suicide.
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>>126118662
Why are leafs always unserious faggots?
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>in b4 18 year old /pol/ users start sperging out and saying this anon or that anon isn't an oldfag

I lived with my parents so we were fine. It wasn't that bad here. We've had worse recessions, especially in the 90s.
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>>126118399
i purchased a house for pennies on the dollar and rented it out.
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>>126118399
i bought a house.

buy low, sell high.
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>>126118998
>an additional $1000
you weren't old enough to get the dole were you?
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>>126118998
That kind of Socialism is probably why, Australia COULD fall into civil unrest. It's simply not sustainable.

Also we have a shared issue, with foreign ownership, you and I.

On a side note, if an unrest were to occur, you guys aren't nearly as well armed as before, thanks to a false flag attack.
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>>126118662
Takes time for economic policies to come home to roost
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>>126118662
>Economy good under Carter
Fake. You must not have been old enough to live through that
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>>126118399
I wasn't over-leveraged
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>>126118399
bought a new truck and spent weekends fishing. recession didn't seem to bother me at all.
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>>126118399
Started college
Literally ignored it and 4 years later got a 6 figure job with no loans

Niggers tongue my anus
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>>126118399

>Implying it ever ended
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>>126119275
yep
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Florida Construction took a serious hit...

sales commissions were in the low 100s for a lot of people every two weeks.

We ate pasta, bread, and english muffins...

The economy did seriously stabalize under Obama but it wasnt until like 2011-2012 and past that.

It wasnt because of him soley, but he was useful in that regard.

Hopefully Trump can keep it going...

I dont get why people want to trash this person or not give credit to this person, would it not be great if each president or congressman could have success for America and we could all be thankful for it?

I voted Ron Paul btw.
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My boss couldn't pay us for 2 months in the middle of the shit but eventually he paid it all back.
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>>126118399
I bought a fish tank to pump money into the economy because my government asked me to.
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>>126118399
I was 13 and my single father still managed to support me, my brother, and my sister.
he did this all without a high school diploma and college degree and worked in a shop building transmissions for cranes and shit
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>>126119655
radical centrist detected
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>>126119655
They will probably crash the economy to blame Trump. Don't fall for it, as the economy could simply:

a. Fall into a recession, which is natural for an economic cycle, but of course MUH DRUMPF DID IT HURR DURR.

b. Popping the stock market, see above.

c. Be artificially inflated until late 1st term, and if we get there, early 2nd term. Then let it goes down.
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>>126119621
Pro tip, Government jobs aren't good for the economy
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>>126119821
Give him a hug for that, such a burden is quite stressful.
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It fucked my dad's law practice that's for sure. Also his partner in a property who was a contractor got btfo and had to be bought out. I was wrapping up high school but I know my dad's firm never completely recovered and he ended up downsizing
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Worst Survey thread ever
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I was 17 living at home attending highschool.

I'm now 24 , working 30 hours a week driving Zambonis and going to school for "sports management" to get a shit diploma that does nothing but look better on my resume.

Even in my college program for sports business, we are FORCED fed Marxist ideals through general arts and sciences classes that focus of genderism and how bad my colonial ancestors were.


Idk why I'm paying another $5k to go back next year, but I really do think it's the social aspect of things.
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>>126118399
glory to Deutschland one of the nations that pulled out of that US made shitshow.
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>>126120162
Also was a florida fag and we got hit super hard.
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>>126118399
I was making shit money before, during, and lost my job just before it peaked. I was still young enough to move in with my parents for about 8 months as i applied for any and all jobs, it was a living hell, fuck monster.com worthless piece of shit website. I must have applied for jobs 50-100 times a day, i went on unemployment, which made me feel scummy, they even made me go in person, wait in a line of deadbeats, and talk to some soulless bureaucrat, who had me answer some questions i could have easily done online in person. Then i got my sweet $700/month check after they let me sit for like a full month to make sure i spent all my saving, which was nothing at the time. I finally got a shitty job about 8 months later, then within a year got a pretty decent job, which then turned into a career...Took me about 2 years after 2008 to fully recover and forever changed me into a conservative money saver. I havent used credit since i paid off all my debts from my rut, which has been close to 10 years now...though now i fear im in a position where the federal reserve could wipe me out with one fell swoop of massive inflation and i really dont want a couple hundred pounds of silver/gold to worry about...and have no where close enough for a home unless its a powerless shack in the mountains (debating it desu)


The sum of it all for me was it taught me how utterly pointless college was, and how it wasn't worth the life ruining debt it cost. Taught me to be a saver so id never have to move back with my parents, and made me always uncertain about the future, even today i wont use credit or buy large ticket items with financing...just in case the rug gets pulled out again. It did stop me from being a degenerate partyer and put me on a conservative path...for what its worth.
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>>126118399
>How did YOU survive the 2008 mega-recession?

I actually became homeless and divorced thanks to that recession (lost my job, wife left me). Spent 3 years on the streets, worked my way off the streets, into a halfway house, then worked another 2 years doing ballpark concessions and parking till I had the $$ to buy a car for cash (no credit), that all lead to an IT job I picked up through my church and connections through the boss of the car parking gig, now I have a company car, my own house (again) make 6 figures a year.

Somehow made it off the streets with only a bum knee to show for my time out there (torn meniscus I just never bothered to get fixed since I couldn't afford the time off, and didn't have the insurance for it, I'm sorta paranoid now about losing my job and home so I refuse to take the 2-4 weeks off i'd need to take to get the surgery to fix it, so I just "cope")

learned all about what "real" hard work was thanks to it, I like to think I became a much better person thanks to this too. But it does suck I lost a whole decade thanks to that. rolling onto 40 and I'm staring at life with no family now.
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>>126120074
Right wing retards can't read. What does the title of the chart say? The top line. >>126119621
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>>126118399
by being in oklahoma
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>>126119225
No shit. When our property market goes under its probably going to take out one (or all) of our major banks. That means a trillion dollar taxpayer bailout, or if we are lucky they will just take our deposits.
The state apperatus itself will come into question if that happens. Thus there is a real possibility of a period of lawlessness in Australias future. Just a skeleton crew for a government while internal unrest organicaly decides where the chips fall.
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>>126120125
Eh hard to feel a recession when you live in the most red state in the country. Gas prices were the only thing that really jumped up in prices
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>>126120580
Oh shit another Oklahomie based
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>>126118530
FIRST FUCKING POST
>BEST FUCKING POST

god i love this state.
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>>126118399
I was luckily on the right side of an 80% layoff. Rode it out from there. Complete luck DESU.
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I made a ton of money after the recession . I bought my first house just after the market crashed for nothing. It has a little apartment in the basement and I rented it out right after Rents exploded. I used that money to buy a second rental. Really the recession was the best thing that ever happened to me.
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I was in highschool. But my mother worked in medicine, nothing high up, but decent enough gig to stick around. My dad did finish work, not construction. Surprisingly a shit ton of people who still needed his skill set.

Also being immigrants from bumfuck Eastern Europe made my parents suspicious of shit so they never used credit cards, only payed in cash, had been stockpiling money and resources.

We did fine. But my "rich" friends lives were fucking shattered by the dozens.

Some made it through, some still on their way down the tubes.
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>>126118530
How is the state handling the oil crash? Here in Alberta, Canada things are still fucked, but our economy is less diversified than Texas
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>>126120463
>Taught me to be a saver so id never have to move back with my parents, and made me always uncertain about the future, even today i wont use credit or buy large ticket items with financing...just in case the rug gets pulled out again.
We're the new Silent generation you know.
We'll never spend a dime for the rest of our lives.
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>>126119621
Oh so that's where the stimulus he spent 6 FUCKING times went.
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>>126118399
I was in prison
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>>126118399
I joined the army and killed some sandniggers and then got out.

I needed a job, they were hiring. I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe.
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>>126121101
We won't spend it on big ticket items. But it's a good point you made, I've been hearing alot from anons and friends who work in marketing and big finance how they can sell to our generation, and one of my buddies told his manager "We ain't buying".

Another thing I've noticed we've become like the old Japanese merchants of the Warring era. They were seen as shit people and were not allowed to own property, but they still kept everything going, so they would just spend all their dosh on hookers, food and booze everynight. Kind of like what everyone I know does now too.
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>>126118399
I got offered jobs by contractors because they took one look at my handiwork and wanted that instead of flakey drunks and druggies.

Then I went back to a real job.
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>>126118662
2007 Banking Crisis was caused by Clinton repealing Glass-Steagall. Read a history book you stupid leaf faggot before killing our brain cells any further
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>>126118530
I lived in Arizona

I lost my house
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>>126121708
>2007 Banking Crisis was caused by Clinton repealing Glass-Steagall

there were a few other reasons, but yes, this was a big one.
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>>126121792
Why did Arizona get hit so bad again?

I was working as a Valet back then and I remember within a coupe months 4-5 new guys (all grown men) showed up. I'm in MA btw.
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>>126118399
Fine. We had more bodies that had to be worked on but, I was never finically fucked because of it.
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>>126121893
The housing market was huge in Arizona until it went bottoms up
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>>126120532
after the fed lowered interest rates to 0, wow you're telling me investment went up?
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>>126118399
>How did YOU survive the 2008 mega-recession?
We were at war so I joined a defense contractor, making bank ever since
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>>126121792
>arizona
as i said here >>126120490 lost my home too, happen to be I was in Phoenix.

>>126121893
easy. in 1998-2008 there were billboards up and down the I-10 and I-17 in downtown phoenix that said

"¡Sin trabajo sin ingresos sin identificación no hay problema!" - BANK OF AMERICA

Yes, that's right, bank of america was offering home loans to EVERYONE in arizona with no id, job, or work proof required.

What do you think that did to the local economy when all those ninja loans went bust?
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>>126118399

got a job. worked. sold weed on the side.
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>>126118399
Bought homes at extremely discounted prices. Not everyone could do that, but I set myself up by not taking on debt and trying to be debt free. We always lived below our means to accomplish that.
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>>126121708
one of many reasons
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>>126121708
LOL right wing retards are the biggest dindu nuffins on the planet.

BUSH DINDU NUFFIN

every fucking time

George Bush: we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68&nohtml5=False

No matter how good of an economy Democrats hand you right wing retards Republicans, you crash everything and then do what you do best, have a WE DINDU NUFFIN chimpout
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>>126120265
kek you're a fucking clueless sperg. Deutsche Bank is shit because they were force fed bad loans from the FED

You're welcome
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>>126121792
I probably bought it at half price from the bank.
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I was 11
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>>126121708
No matter how good of an economy Democrats hand you right wing retards Republicans, you crash everything and then do what you do best, have a WE DINDU NUFFIN chimpout

You morons can't be trusted with anything. What excuse are you goig to come up with when Trump crashes the economy?
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>>126123010
It was the Democrats that said we want every stripper to own a home. Fuck off leaf, you know nothing.
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I lived in Canada. Strict monetary policy allowed the country to survive the 2008 recession better than most any other country.

The Canadian great recession is yet to come.
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>>126118399
I has just returned home from ten years living overseas. I basically spent the 2008 / 09 sitting on my ass doing nothing.
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>>126123036
DB is fucked because GS saddled the loans of the PIGGS on their books to make the EU work.

But SUPER EFFICIENT GERMANS can't accept that.
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>>126123199

George Bush: we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68&nohtml5=False [Embed]

Say it with me.

RIGHT WING RETARDS ARE THE BIGGEST DINDU NUFFINS ON THE PLANET.
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I didnt
I lost 900k USD in liquid-able assets and never made it back to the top
Current making 40k~ a year working for the government
I was making 1.7m salary plus bonuses before.

It will never crash they said. It will never happen again they say.
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>>126118399
Having some of the best sex of my life during that summer
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>>126118399
I was enlisted in the Marine Corps when it crashed. I had no clue how bad it really was.
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>class of 2009
signed papers to join the army in march of 09, uncle sam gave me a job to go a kill mudslimes halfway across the world
>tfw making big bucks while cucks built debt in college
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>>126123010
>no matter how good an economy democrats hand you
Obama had the lowest economic growth of any president since ww2, 2nd worst in history only president other from hoover to see 3% growth. Literally every important number is down from the time he took office.
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>>126118399
I moved back home to Texas. They didnt have a recession.
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I ended up taking shit jobs outside of the advertising world. I still haven't got back to the point that I was financially before the recession. Luckily, I've moved into a job that I actually enjoy going to everyday, I don't have to dress in business casual, and I don't struggle to pay the bills now either.
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>>126123207

our housing bubble is teice the size of americas in 2008 (am canadian). We are gonnna get FUCKED
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I didn't. Out of work for two years (construction), lost the house, moved into cheap apartment with wife and kids; spent the past 5 trying to reboot. Have to live near (fill in the blank) and sketchy people all around. But it's okay, the Mayor of Seattle has authorized more poor people's housing, drunk dorms, and shooting galleries.
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>>126123347
It'll always crash, but it'll always recover too. Did you panic sell all of your investments at the bottom? Should've held.
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>>126121792
Same
AZ and Vegas got crammed the hardest in the entire US

We have recovered for the most part whereas most of the midwest has not recovered one bit
OHIO is a rusted shit hole
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>>126123432
Obama had the longest job creation streak in history, cut unemployment in half and strong wage growth.

You right wing retards are such cucks for (((GDP))) growth. You literally want more immigration and govt spending just to boost (((GDP))) growth. Seriously why are you so cucked? Who the fucks (((GDP))) growth is an important metric to the average worker's life?

You right wing cucks make me sick.
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>08
>oldfag
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>>126118530
I stopped watching tv and the news
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>>126123432>>126124045


You want more immigration like Sweden just to boost your precious JewDP growth. Seriously right wing retard, could u be a bigger cuck?
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>>126119098
Because you quadroons take shit way too seriously.
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>>126120532
Using the word retard as a slur is very anti-obama, obama leaf. Check your privilege before posting
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>>126118399
I had high seniority in a union job. Though it did not matter, really, because no one was laid off. There is a shortage of people in my field and we are hard to replace.
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>>126118399
By letting my parents pay for my expenses
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>>126118399
i held my shitty job, bought a foreclosure, now im worth half a mil
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>>126123289
Goldman was one of many banks that took that ticket and spread it around. I still think LIBOR has a lot to do with it too. The whole industry is probably underwater with bad debt from all those shorts back in 08
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>>126121893
lots of open space to build in

just look up some images of Arizona growth

http://www.azcentral.com/story/travel/arizona/2016/08/31/arizona-then-now-downtown-phoenix/89609816/

I lived in west AZ which was mostly undeveloped and jews quickly started building shitty chains that fell through within a couple years and brought homeless cunts into my neighborhood using the abandoned stores
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>>126124130
You confuse "Republicans" and "Right wingers" do NOT conflate the two.
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>>126124222
lol typical right wing retard
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>>126121792
Because arizona and vegas are so new. Home builders took a TON of risk lending directly to buyers. Buyers working at McStarMarts could not afford a 350k loan with balloon payments of 9,000 every 2 years
We are currently spuring a burble as big or bigger in AZ atm. We have some of the most school loans per cap of any state, one of the highest retiree rates and almost our whole economy is tourism or financials.
Boomers looking to downsize is going to crush us when they start selling their mcmansion homes to millennials who cant afford them because student loans.
Its a crisis waiting to happen
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>>126124307
You're all Republicucks. You obey your masters.
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>>126124230
What field?
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>>126124445
Nothing you have said indicates you are anything but a friggin' leaf, socialist Trudeau sucking faggot,. Get out!
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>>126124445
Stroke obama off to his foot long dong of debt
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>>126118399
the biggest issue were the dumb people that bought houses that they couldn't afford without a fixed rate. The adjustable rate went up and bam, foreclosures..

It didn't really impact business and the economy as a whole, but that's because the FED literally started printing money in digital form. Quantitative Easing eroded the dollar and everything fucking costs more now...plus the recession was put on hold for a depression
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>>126118662
>I voted Obama
Thanks for getting the fuck out of my country if true.

Economic policies take time to work out, there is always pain before gain. The economy "does well" under Democrats because Republican policies end up fixing shit previous Democrats fucked up. Unfortunately Democrats, never passing up an opportunity to fuck up a good thing, implement policies that destroy growth potential. Several years down the line, just in time for another Republican to come into office, the effects of Democrat policies come home to roost and fuck shit up all over again.

Look at places where leftist policies have been implemented for a long time, and you begin to see that it's not the Republicans fucking shit up. Detroit, Baltimore, Los Angeles, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. etc..
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>>126124599
>2020

Thanks Trump!
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>>126124671
Which they wouldn't have been able to do without the modifications to the community reinvestment act and the repeal of Glass Steagall... both signed by Clinton.
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>>126118399

Did a PhD and moved to another country.

Began the PhD in 2004 when everybody else was working in the real state bubble
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>>126124310
You type like a redneck
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>>126124701
>Economic policies take time to work out, there is always pain before gain. The economy "does well" under Democrats because Republican policies end up fixing shit previous Democrats fucked up.

I can't imagine how much of a full blown fucking right wing retard you have to be to think that Bush handed Obama a good economy.

The economy soars under Democrats because of superior economic policies.

All u right wing retards can do is explode the budget deficit and cut taxes for the rich. That's your entire fucking ideology.

Then you try to take credit for CLINTON AND OBAMA GREATNESS while completely dinduing when you're in charge.
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>>126124599
Your national debt has been growing like an inoperable cancer for years.
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>>126124275
Of course it is.

We could just take the whole thing down. But the question is if we want to ease it out if they will play with us nicely.

It seems like maybe they think they want to just pulling on their mutilated dicks. Watch for what the Fed says, particularly when we start to see DB back in the news.
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when your broke af it was just all the same for 8 years, broke af.
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>>126118399
The construction company I worked for went out of business and I found a job in a call center doing collections on medical-related debt.
I wouldn't recommend it.
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>>126118399
Took really high travel rate job. Hard mode
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>>126124720
>Obama cut the deficit by nearly three fourths!
>After increasing it in 2009 to 4x what it was in 2008.

Wew lad. At least show a graph that goes back before Obama's first year like pic related
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>>126124671
The hell it didn't. When they started using Mortgages as "bundled investments" it encouraged a GLUT of building; shitty condos going up all over with cheap Mexican labor (haven't seen a condo built in the last 20 years that wasn't suing the builder) but the costs kept going up up up. Then--BOOM! Shitload of wired in empty lots near where I was in WA State sat there for three years. Construction dropped, people got laid off. Trade unemployment here was 20%. I lost my house NOT because I was stupid (decent rate, and could afford it) but I couldn't pay 2 years of mortgage without working. Plus, the bank refused to work with us because we weren't upside down enough.
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>>126118399
>>126118399
>How did YOU survive the 2008 mega-recession?

I didn't. I had a lot of things going against me. First:

>Young, 25
>Naive
>worst industries to be working in(truck driving, construction)
>barely started these industries
>had little to no savings
>no economic education
>blue pilled AF
>lived in California
>was told in grade school these things would never happen again
>Didn't take the warning signs seriously

I lost everything. I lost my job, my belongings, my car, and all my savings. I was living on borrowed cash from other broke people at the time. I was on unemployment for 2 years.

After finally getting a new job I slowly started saving all my money, lived like I was poor, paid off all my debts. Educated myself on economics, depression, finances, and recessions. Paid attention to trends, paid attention to warning signs. Would jump ship if the company I was at was about to tank. Finally, I was laid off again back in 2013. Because of everything I learned I was fully prepared. I had huge savings, no debt, paid off working car,
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wife lost her job, mine cut my hours more than half. We wouldn't have survived except for my wife. She got ruthless. She planted potatoes. She stopped our netflix and extraneous expenses like that. She timed the kids showers. She spent her days on coupons and bartering and selling off stuff we didn't need, packing the kids lunches, and squeezing every damn nickle to make the mortgage. I took odd jobs wherever I could get, and she was relentless with the mortgage company on the phone, kept us no more than 90 days behind (their threshold to start foreclosure threats), put us on their help program, even got them to let us pay just the interest once or twice.

We lived off some credit cards for a period, because they can't take your house. Those issues that caused are over.
Neighbors across the street had horrendous fights, then finally they just abandoned their house and went their separate ways. But we dug in as a couple, and even though we worried, we worried together.
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>>126118399
I cashed out everything I had and paid off my house so I wouldn't end up living in a car for a second time in my life, I was unemployed for 2 years and couldn't get a call back for lot attendant for Walmart, I ended up working under the table for some shitty scumbag contractor, I finely got a real job 3 years ago making less money than I did before 2008.
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>>126118399

I was laid off despite being a top performer, because they wanted to protect someone else who had a family but wasn't that great at her job.

So, I used unemployment to live. I tried to find a job, but absolutely no one was hiring for a reasonable wage in the Silicon Valley and I wasn't a great networker at the time. I moved to the shittiest apartment ever in San Francisco, and well, I eventually got an extremely abusive temp job, removing staples from papers (beforehand, I was an analyst making a decent wage). I was fired and went back to unemployment.

Disillusioned with the job market, I gave up. I started partying and drinking. They say women care a lot about money, but even unemployed and prospectless, I did well on that front. I had an on-and-off girlfriend who loved me, but who I just didn't love quite as much. I was sort of despairing about my own impact on the world-- I wanted to go to Law School, but everyone else was doing it in 2009/2010 and I knew the result would be a flood of lawyers.

Luckily, my old work called when they had budget. They rehired me. I got top performance reviews. And then was hired to another company for $110k a year, which at 26, with no grad school, in a non-STEM role, is decent. My life recovered since then, but I think back to those wasted years-- without the catastrophe, I would have hit my $1M a year by 30 goal.
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>>126124904
>87% of jobs were in the food sector

Nice meme
>>126124924
Cancer went terminal during obama
For every job obama "added" it costed the US $860,000
It would have been cheaper and more produce since no infrastructure dev was done to just give everyone looking for a job at that time 100k a year
Our interest on the debt is 300 billion a year
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>>126119483
Surely that was extra
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>>126125192
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

You know what I love most? When you right wing retards btfo yourselves. You don't even know what fiscal years are. An incoming president inherits the previous president's last budget.

FY09 was Bush's last budget. This is fucking common knowledge. How fucking retarded, how much of a fucking right winger, do you have to be, to be so fucking dumb to not know this?

The stupidity and ignorance that u retards exude never ceases to amaze me.

Trump's first budget. What FY is it for? Cmon retards THINK

You retards know FUCK ALL about your own country. Obama inherited a $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit and cut it by 2/3.

FY09 was Bush's last budget.

God you're dumb.

Don’t Blame Obama for Bush’s 2009 Deficit
https://www.cato.org/blog/dont-blame-obama-bushs-2009-deficit
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>>126118530
>We didn't have a recession.

We actually did in some industries like construction. Projects grounded to a halt for a couple of years. My dad didn't have any serious clients for at least three years.
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>>126118399
I was 21 kept all my money saved up living like a super poor fag 2007-2011. Didn't affect me at all because I had no retirement plan set up til 2012.

Feels good man, had a great deal of money saved up by 23 fully owned my car was saving to buy my cheap ass house.

>tl;dr dont fall for kike traps like the wall street casino
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>>126118399
i had and still have a job at the ELECTRIC company. niggers still have to eat, err, play xbox...
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>>126125458
Stop being racist.
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>>126125414
>87% of jobs were in the food sector

How retarded do you have to be to think this? Let me guess, you're so retarded you get your information from ZeroBrain?

Right wing retards think all service jobs (70% of the economy) are in food. Holy shit u retards are dumb.
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>>126121470
I'm honestly thinking about this. I can't find a job to save my life.
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I work for myself fitting and replacing gutters on residential homes. Thankfully I was a long time customer of 2 suppliers and managed to avoid the most of their price hikes, and that there was just enough work to keep me afloat if I lowered my prices. For the last few years there's been so much work that I can pick and choose what I want to do, so I'm glad I stuck at it
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>>126118399
I stole copper, sold drugs, and out jewed everyone i saw.
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>>126118399
Shortly after we emerged from the vaults I managed to loot a pistol and some 10 mm JHP from a dead raider, so I was ok.
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>>126125192
>>126125428
FY09 was Bush's last budget.

It's fucking 8 years later and you're still a fucking retard.

Trump's first budget. What FY is it for? Cmon retards THINK. Answer that question and u might have a breakthrough u retarded little bitch.
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>>126124904
How many Republicans run Europe?
How many Republicans run Venezuela?

Why are their economies in fucking shambles?

Obama was unprecedented in American history in that he never had a year of GDP growth above 3%.

>right-wing retards
You're the same leafcuck from the other thread aren't you?
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>>126118662
I guess thats why bernie told us never to believe israel leaf employment numbers.
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>>126125592
>implying the jews want the goyim to get by on their own
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>>126118662
You should vote Republican to push accelerationism instead of wanting gibs from the Dems. The only way to destroy the status quo is to go full retard.
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>>126125428
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/13/washington/13cong.html?pagewanted=all

>The White House on Monday said that President Bush, at the urging of President-elect Barack Obama, would formally ask a reluctant Congress to release the second half of the Treasury’s $700 billion financial system bailout fund, setting the stage for a potentially messy legislative battle straddling the incoming and outgoing administrations.
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I'm a clueless asshole. How do I find more info on the crash? Google isn't showing me any good resources.
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>>126125722
Funny how Trump embraced Obama's unemployment rate as soon as he took office. He lied to u retards and told u it was 42% because he knows that you're gullible retarded fucks that will believe anything.
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By being a NEET, obviously.

I hadn't always been a NEET, though. I once was an avionics technician in the USAF and an E-5 (SSGT). I scored a 99th percentile aggregate on my ASVAB, enlisted in 2001 after high school, went to MEPS and shipped out on September 7, 2001, and then the Jews did 9/11 while I was still fresh into boot camp.

Eventually I became depressed because I hated it, although I worked hard, did a good job, and got along with other guys in my shop. I stopped being able to wake up on time, so they investigated me. They sent Security Forces to my room to hammer on the door and do drug tests and alcohol tests at random times. The squadron First Sergeant assigned me to work details as punishment, but surreptitiously observed me to see if I was just lazy (I learned this from my mother years later, with whom he was in phone contact).

The base commander summoned me to his office and gave me an immense tongue-lashing.

They finally realized I was a good guy who was just depressed, so they kicked me out in 2005 on a "general under honorable conditions" discharge rather than giving me a dishonorable.

Then I went to stay with my grandmother from 2005-2015. She took care of me, but later on I took much more care of her, doing all the cooking, cleaning, doing it well, driving her to appointments... and when she broke her hip and got on a downward spiral, I was at the hospital with her every day for months until the end.

She was a secret millionaire due to old family investments (just a few million). It surprised the entire family. Now I have my own upscale apartment, a nice $20,000 car, nice computer, nice stuff, keep my shit super-neat, but I'm fairly solitary, estranged from family, and a hermit.

I don't work. I only play vidya, read, eat snacks, and masturbate all day and live off my inheritance.

I'll eat the shotgun soon, maybe this year or next.

Pic: Me with my late pop-pop at Fishburne Military School in '97. What a waste.
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>>126119214
haaa it was "youth allowance" back then
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>>126125810
How old are you anon.

btw it sucked ass for everyone.
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>>126125538
Obama economy focused on quick consumption and debt
There is no denying the facts. GDP growth of ~3% is not sufficient
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>>126125680
Lol u right wing retards want more govt spending and more immigration just to boost GDP growth. You want to devalue your wages for your precious JewDP growth. Explain yourself retard.
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Class of '08, spent the next six years in engineering school living off student loans so I didn't really feel it. Racked up a bunch of debt but got a cash internship early on paying $22/hr w/ 6% 401(k) match. I hadn't ever made more than minimum wage before so I maxed out my 401k contributions and never touched it. Now I'm with the same firm making six figures with a massive retirement portfolio because I basically started while the market was bottomed out. Debts will be paid off in five years, I'll only be 32. Can't complain desu thank God for FAFSA and the STEM meme
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>>126118530
Holdin'em high partner
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>>126125877
I'm 23. Live in central Alabama.
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>>126125810
Learn how to do shit, mate.

Like when I parked my car outside a neighbor to switch out the brakes, he came out and asked me if I could do magical things for his truck in exchange for painting my house.
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>>126125663
As you ignore an NY Times article stating that it was Obama who was urging Bush to ask congress for nearly a trillion dollars more in bailout.
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>>126119655
You're fucking retarded if you think Obama did anything but sit on his monkey ass for 8 years while the Federal Reserve fudged the numbers for King Nigger to look better.
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>>126118399
Well for one I was 10
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>>126125902
Replacing good middle class jobs with lots of part time minimum wage gigs.

What a recovery.
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things are worse now than they were then. if you think otherwise youre a gullible fool
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>>126125858
This hit in the feels dood.
Please don't do it. You need a challenge. That's what I've learned about myself as well. It's actually your awesome lifestyle that is making you totally not give a shit anymore.
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Spend the entire semester yelling at my dorm mates about how the country is going to go to shit and how the collectively made a huge mistake( they all voted for obama)
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>>126125954
Well there's your problem. It was just a day in the life for you. For the rest of the nation it was messy.
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>>126118399
I had a low debt to income ratio... The way all you fucks should live.
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>>126126125
Yeah, but I enjoy learning about things like this.
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>>126121008
You just said it. Our economy is incredibly diverse, the only people who suffered were the Oil-Trash too stupid to save some Money in place of buying a $35,000 speed boat.
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My roommate and I continued working our full time jobs. We even hosted Thanksgiving for a bunch of our friends that year.
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>>126125807
Omfg you're a full blown fucking retard. You just got btfo so hard and now you're flailing like a bitch.

TARP wasn't even part of the budget u absolute fucking moron. It was off-budget and those loans got paid back.

Answer the question u retarded little bitch. Why the fuck did u think that FY09 was Obama's budget when it was Bush's?

>>After increasing it in 2009 to 4x what it was in 2008. >>126125192

Bush left Obama a $1.4 TRILLLION budget deficit. This is common knowledge.

Have you ever read a CBO report? How the fuck do you not know this?

Don’t Blame Obama for Bush’s 2009 Deficit
https://www.cato.org/blog/dont-blame-obama-bushs-2009-deficit

Stop dodging and answer.

https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/111th-congress-2009-2010/reports/01-07-outlook.pdf

You have no clue what a fiscal year is do you?

Trump's first budget. What FY is it for? Cmon retards THINK. Answer that question and u might have a breakthrough u retarded little bitch.
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>>126125913
>right wing retards want more govt spending and more immigration

This satire? This is the exact opposite of what conservatives want. Smaller government and less immigration pushing labour prices way down

The fuck?

Ask detroit or baltimore how to run a city via the democratic ideals
see how it turns out
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>>126126278
Kek I love it when obamaleaf gets triggered. Dance monkey dance
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>>126125902
>>126126055
AHAHA I called it. You get your information from ZeroBrain.

95% of Obama jobs have been full time.


There are tons of great paying jobs out there right now. The problem for right wing retard Trump voters is that you don't have the skills, education or work ethic to attain those jobs. >>126125538

You retards are just mad because Obama created 16 million jobs, >>126124904


the budget deficit by 2/3 >>126124720

and cut the unemployment rate down to 4.6%

You vote Republican because u love it when they crash the economy. >>126118662
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>>126118399
Lost my mill job, took a year to find work in food service, worked my way up to a chef, peaced the fuck out going back to school, now engineer bound at world class uni. Im 30 now but no worries, I make a ton on internships alone at this point.
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>>126126301
Right wing retards want more immigration and more govt spending just to boost your retarded GDP growth meme. That's a fact. That's why u retards always bitch about JewDP growth.

Republicans are always big spenders.
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>>126125858
Don't do it anon, use your money to become some sort of puppet master.
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>>126125858
You ungrateful nigger! Why don't you travel?!! Pic related?!! I do this ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS!! THAT COULD BE YOU EVERY DAY!
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>>126126349
Obama Leaf eradicated you right wing retards once again. Can't wait to see what u retards say when Trump EXPLODES THE BUDGET DEFICIT with his idiotic tax cuts for the rich.

Good night retards!

Obama Leaf out
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>>126126690
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>>126126513
You implying Ike Reagan or even Nixon did a poor job economically?
We had the strongest growth in history during those times direct as a result of policy put in place by them
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>>126126690
>>126126717
Right wing retards are the biggest cucks on the planet.

Case closed gg
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>>126118399
>mid 2008 Took a shot job right out of college making 36k.
>Dad was laid off work and then diagnosed with cancer.
>MFW family has no insurance.
>Put off what student loans I could to help
>dad dies and mom files bankruptcy, sells the house for whatever marker will take.
>2009 take better job close to family. Work sucks but better than being unemployed.
>2012 job is leaving state do apply to grad school
>fuck yeah good gmat score and nearly free ride to top 20 public university
>get decent grades (3.2 gpa). Had summer internship not making shit
>2014 gagaduwate get job $65k+ boners. Job is a grind 70+ hrs week doing commercial RE for PE firm.
>burnout.bat
>get job at comfy corp making 70k+ boners
>boring as fuck
>streamline the shit out of all operations over next two years
>new boss says hi anon you're not engaged in ur work fix that shit
>ok cool I'll do whatever gib me sum KPIs do I can measure improvement
>new boss says no ur not engaged u should be doing more of the things that aren't in your jorb description
>wtf ever
>may 1, 2016 come into my office anon
>pack ur shit u out nigga
>fuck this shit I don't get paid enough.
>don't actually say that but grit teeth and say, I understand, no hard feelings.
>honestly just relieved mounting pressure is gone. No longer have to do boring job with mounting other administrative bullshit.
>get 1.5 month severance
>have 6k+ saved up. Feelsgoodman.jpg
>take week to rent houseboat and chill on lake fishing and drinking beer.
>life sucks then u die. Could be way worse.
>apply for a few jobs online. Three interviews that same week.
>may 18th i already have a job offer for $84k in Charleston SC.
>beach life baby.
>thx obama
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>>126118399
went to work
made money
wow that was hard to figure out
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>>126125913
... Wut?

It depends on what the spending is on. If it's on infrastructure, the military, and other items that encourage and protect commerce and country, then sure. If it's on huge pensions for literally retarded government workers, transgender bathrooms in public schools, and welfare for niggers and degenerates, no thanks.

Immigration is fine, but illegal aliens are not immigrants, and our immigration policies should benefit, not burden, American citizens.

>boosting gdp growth
>bad
Are you retarded? What's wrong with boosting GDP growth? Everyone benefits.

>Obama's lackluster GDP growth
>only the top 10% benefit
>the rest of us are worse off.

Explain pic related.
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i was a fresh young NEET back then
now I am a tired old NEET
had a short spell (11 months) in one company, but find out that working isn't for me
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>>126124541
aviation (airline pilot)
The airframe and power plant technicians also made it through the great recession unscathed.
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>>126118399
guns and gold
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>>126118399
i was 17 and was about to inherit 2.9 million USD in early 2009.

feels good
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>>126126909
We don't know what it was spending on.
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>>126126690
I think you are cherry picking numbers. http://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/report/omnibus-spending-bill-huge-spending-and-9000-earmarks-represent-business
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>>126126942
how do you pay rent then? i guess bulgaria is probably cheap enough to live in that you can just recycle cans for rent
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>Australian
>Family have money
>Family too backward to be invested in international society
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>>126118399
by being Canadian, what else?
Americans? More like Amerifags!
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>>126125858
Don't rope yourself bro. Go to Thailand and fuck a bunch of whores or maybe not a white and get you a wife.

That's what I'd do anyway. If you want to go let me know, I'll pay my own way. I don't take fucking handouts.
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>>126126690
This fucking leaf also does not understand the relation of GDP to revenue.
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>>126126909
AAHAHAAH I love it when right wing retards have to pretend to larp as Bernie supporters. Since when do u right wing retards care about income inequality? Your entire ideology is based on you being cucks for billionaires and supporting massive tax cuts for the rich. The top tax rate was 90% during those first 5 expansions. You retards have been programmed by your billionaire globalist overlords to oppose income tax hikes at all costs.

I love how your chart delibarately cuts off in 2012. You know why? You retards are too scared to show Obama's full record because u know u will get btfo.

Seriously since when do right wing retards care about income inequality? Why do u larp? You know I destroyed u when u have to larp as a Bernie supporter.

Your entire right wing cuck ideology is giving it all to the rich.
>>126126690
>>126126717
>>126126804
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>>126127222
Three-two, why don't you just inherit the land?
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>>126127346
You are a typical libshit that believes in keynesian economics
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>>126126804

You're one of the most recognizable posters on /pol/: a one-trick pony whose only contribution is to bitch endlessly about "right-wing" people, while posting numerous charts and graphs whose actual significance you can't even grasp. A noodle-armed, kazoo-voiced, androgynous metrosexual douchebag with a perpetual smirk betraying both smugness and ignorance on your eminently punchable face.
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>>126127152
>falling for the rent jew
we own two apartments (thanks gommunism), so I just live in the smaller one and my parents in the other. mother comes to deliver fresh food...feelsgood.jpg// I sometimes make money from online stuff (websites) that I make when I am boooooored. But mostly - I get money from my parents and from the older brother who works in Germoney. I need about 300-350 eur per month, so I can even save some :)
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>>126127342
Oh I do. Democrats raise revenues and reduce the budget deficit. Republicans cut revenues and explode the budget deficit.

Seriously you retards are so economically challenged. Trump is about to explode the deficit with retarded trickle down tax cuts all in some retard attempt to hit 4% JewDP growth. How the fuck is all that debt worth your precious JewDP growth?

Also u retards are too stupid to know that JewDP growth is a function of population growth. >>126125913

You want more immigrants and lower wages just to boost JewDP growth. You right wing retards could not be more cucked.
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Lived in D.C.

So much federal money here, I literally did not feel it. Actually bought a house after the market finished collapsing around 2010.

If real budget cuts ever happen, D.C., MD and northern Virginia will get blown off the fucking map. We are all about the federal spending here.
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>>126126513
>Economy crashes in 2007

Democrats controlled the congress in 2007.

>Economy turns around in 2011

Ah yes right when Republicans took back the House.
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>>126127524
right wing RETARDS

not people
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>>126127554
Presidents don't control the budget. Congress does.

Learn about our government if you're going to try to talk about it, moose humper.
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>>126127642
Lol called it.

>Then you try to take credit for CLINTON AND OBAMA GREATNESS while completely dinduing when you're in charge. >>126124904

Fuck even Republicans called it the Obama economy. Now all u retards can try to do is take credit for OBAMA GREATNESS.

You retards are sad and pathetic.
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>>126127346
You also do not factor in the Mark To Market accounting that Libshits forced on us, nor the Community Reinvestment Act that more Libshits forced on us to create the charts that your dumbass provide,.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-cra-debate-a-users-guide-2009-6
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>>126127554
Look up Obamas GDP numbers dumb ass...
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>>126123170
Hey shitbiscuit...

Who controlled the Congress and whose Contract with America was implemented?

I'll give slick willy credit, after 2 years of listening to the First Hag and costing the Donkeys their decades long control of Congress, he wised up and got with the program.
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>>126127772
I don't think you understand how it works.

Tell me how the Jewish Federal Resrve works. For extra credit, you can tall me you choice about the history of central banks.
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>>126121473
That....is interesting as fuck. That's literally what every millennial currently does.
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>>126127772
Right wing retards honestly have no fucking clue how anything works.

So Trump has nothing to do with the budget?

Hey retard do me a favor. Since you're such a fucking moron.

Here's Obama's 2012 budget.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BUDGET-2012-BUD/pdf/BUDGET-2012-BUD.pdf

Open it up.

Type up and post what it says on the 1st page.

Do it u retarded little bitch. Do it now.
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>>126118715
welcome to nu-pol
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>>126127526
so the govt just gives you an apartment as part of communism? why not move back into your parents one for a bit, and charge someone else rent to use yours?

thats amazing you already own property at this age, im kind of jelly
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>>126118399
Sold my my house right before the bubble popped in california, moved to texas and opened up My own business and now I'm rich
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>>126127851
We've been over this. Right wing retards want more immigration and govt spending to boost JewDp growth. I disagree with your positions.

I think wages, jobs and the budget deficit are far more important than your precious JewDP growth.
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>>126127075
I understand anon.

Just putting forward the argument... Spending on the military is a necessity for any government. Beyond that, if you're expecting the government to spend money to raise GDP, the money has to be spent wisely. If every dollar the government spends isn't producing more than $1 in the real economy (or more than $2 if it's deficit spending), there's really no point in spending it. Spending on highways, grid, ports, etc. by government can be a good thing if done wisely. Even Keynes understood this basic concept which is completely lost on the left. I was simply saying that Republicans aren't opposed to spending anything, we just don't want to spend on something that is guaranteed not to create a real return (like niggers).
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>>126125858

Please, please don't do it. Take some of that money and find a therapist who is really nice. Exercise, travel, get a dog, drink more water, get more sunlight, and stop jerking off. Do these things as a favor to yourself, this is self-care and you deserve it.

The nihilism will end, believe me.
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>>126118399
I'm in tech.

I did fine.
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>>126127554
GDP has nothing to do with population, idiot. Its based on productivity and market expansion. We would have more market expansion is libshits didn't create bullshit trade agreement and fucked regulations.
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>another thread derailed by Obamaleaf and his 30 posts
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>>126118399
Mom gave me slightly less chicken tendy than usual. But we're back to regular portions now. Thanks!
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>>126128045
And which of these have been spent on?

The government should be able to provide an itemized list.
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>>126118399
>How did YOU survive the 2008 mega-recession?
I was lucky enough to be white.

Actually in an apprentice program at the time. They couldn't afford to lose me...I was getting paid way less than the journeymen.

It was pretty good actually.
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>>126118399
I was willing to get my hands dirty and do the things no one else wanted to do and work the shifts no one else wanted to work. This led to six day work weeks for three years. Three years of somehow even having LESS of a life and a relationship crumbling to powder in the process. But I smiled and held on because I knew I was securing a future for myself. When big, bad automation came roaring in a year later I made the cut.

I am a stubborn son of a bitch and I don't give up easily. I will adapt and outlast.
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>>126128064
Corporations make $6.5 TRILLION in profits every year and these fucking right wing retard billionaire globalist corporate shills think there isn't enough market expansion. Holy shit are u morons cucked.
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>>126127346
>Household income rises in 1994 after Republicans take back the House and Senate
>Remains steady for next 13 years under Republican congress
>Crashes in 2008 one year after Democrats take back the House and Senate
>Begins to recover in 2011 when Republicans take back House, sharply increases in 2014 when Republicans take back Senate

So what Obama Leaf is really saying is that Republican houses and senates are good for the economy and Democrat congresses destroy the economy. Thanks Obama leaf.
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>>126118399
1/2

In many ways I haven't.

I was born in 1990, at the age of 18 I was studying, I was doing well getting a's for A levels, I had wasted my first year of higher education following my friends to an art based degree, even though I am an Autist. They wouldn't take me for the second year stating that I'm wasting time. The second year I applied too late to really get onto courses worth a damn I noped the fuck out of the sociology course the college threw me on, alongside media studies, and photography, all equally worthless, apparently I was scum for not taking the baby into the bunker in THAT little 'exercise', I lasted a week.

For the third year I planned ahead applied early and got spots in the Scientific fields suited for me and I was doing excellently. The work was too easy. Unfortunately my single mothers finances weren't, and now that child bennies had dried up I was tossed out onto the street. She made up an awful bunch of bullshit to justify it and threw me at the mercy of the state to house, with no money, assets, nothing.

I tried to continue with college, I was asked to stop attending a month later, I was what they called "sofa surfing" most of the nights, the state was unable to help. I was starting to look more and more like a vagrant with each passing day, this I believe prompted them to reject my admission, something they wouldn't do generally.

So I entered the job market with nothing but some GCSE's to mention, I didn't have an address but instead had to rely on care of addresses - you want to guess how successful those applications were? Honestly even with one, it wouldn't have changed a thing, there just wasn't any work to go around.
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>>126128306
get out
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>>126118399
Haven't had a recession in decades
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>>126128064
>Its based on productivity

work harder goy

for less money

gotta boost gdp
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>>126118399
I graduated shortly after the GFC, so you can imagine what a depression riddled time I had.

Everyone else who graduated either ended up on unemployment or simply gave up and started doing illegal shit. I myself was attending multiple interviews per day, 5 days a week, for 3 years straight until my degree simply became obsolete due to the passage of time.

Every position I was being interviewed for had hundreds of applicants, one even had THOUSANDS. Unless you had a family member who could secure you something, then you were basically fucked.

>Ended up just creating my own personal taxation business
>Due to the tens of thousands of others doing the same thing, it never took off
>Lucky if I make over 20,000 p/a

Meanwhile my wife studied nursing and graduated 2 years after myself, just as the full effects ceased, so she landed herself a graduate job out the door and is on 90K p/a now and barely works.

Could have been worse I suppose.
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>>126128040
You disagree because you have no fundamental economic sense!
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>>126128064
>>126128342
>>126128391
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>>126128357
Right wing retard gets completely btfo by pic related

Like I said all u retards can do is try to take credit for CLINTON AND OBAMA GREATNESS while completely dinduing right wing retard hero Dubya Bush.

LOL even Republicans called it the Obama economy >>126127785
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>>126127937
well the commies built a lot of commieblocks for people, since in 40's we were mostly a backwards rural society and we had to industrialise somehow... The population was rising fast after the war and they started planning and building. The properties were very accessible for young people and young families. 95% of Bulgarians now own some kind of property, mostly a flat in a commieblock. Owning a flat in Bulgaria isn't like owning a nice suburbian house in America - it's dirty, there are other people who might be noisy or smelly. But one gets used to it.
....
I'd rather not live with my parents. They might force me to work and I am quite comfy with my life right now. The money from the rent are worth it.
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>>126128357
>>126128563
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>>126128357
You can't make this shit up.


Lol right wing retards shit on the Obama economy for 8 years then suddenly try to take credit for it. You filthy retards are the biggest degenerates on the planet.

Even Republicans called it the Obama economy.

You realize I fucking btfo you retards hard when all you can do is try to take credit for Obama and Clinton's greatness and completely dindu an 8 year GOP presidency
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>>126118399
Wait hold up it's been nine years? Phew, time sure does fly.
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Obama leaf wins again.

Good night retards!

Keep doing what u do best. DINDUING
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Real question is how are you going to survive the real mega recession this fall?
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>>126118399
I was 18 and broke so it didn't really hurt that bad other than not being able to find a job that wasn't retail hell
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>>126127785
Just because you "call" a correct statement before it is made that doesn't make it wrong.

>What is 2+2 and don't say 4 that's bullshit
>But it is 4
>Haha fucking called it wrong again right wingers!
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>>126123302
Right and Barney Frank made sure they got loans regardless of their credit.

Bank - Sir, do you have proof of employment for the 100k per year income?

Customer - I got a picture of me in a Mariachi suit.

Bank - That'll do. We're just gonna dump your toxic loan on Freddie Mac. Do you mind checking some diversity boxes on your application?

Customer - sure, I'm a transgendered African american, native space martian parapalegic.

Bank - Awesome. Just met six different lending quotas for the week
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>>126128711
1 more just to eradicate u retards

inb4 right wing retard dindu nuffins just try to take credit for CLINTON GREATNESS
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>>126128789
Lol Trump is about to repeal Dodd Frank, the harshest Wall Street regulations since FDR.
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I became rich

BUY THE DIP
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>>126128802
BOOM

GG
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>>126118399
Had, still have, a recesion proof job. Can't outsource a utility job.

Bought Citi at 4.40 a share and a bunch of other dirt cheap stocks (GE, BAC eyc...) in my 401(k). Worth about $730K right now, just working towards early retirement age for the pension.
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>>126128449
Again, your stoopid chart is cherry picking... Give me GDP charts for manufacturing and durable goods and you will see the decline. You also fail to factor QE 1, 2, 3. The printing of money creates false market feedback and does not circulate into growth. This is why Libshits in Europe want negative interest rates.
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>>126128888
QUADS CONFIRM

BASED FILENAME
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Reminder that you´re talking to someone being paid to shill, not to discuss
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>>126128965
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>>126118399
I used government intervention to refinance my mortgage.

New government policies on mortgages somehow let me take more money out on a small rate. I did that then gave the surplus money to my stock broker to use as capital on the market.
The market growth rate is about twice as much as my interest rate, so the recession actually turned me a profit and ended my mortgage payments.

Also I'm jewish
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>>126128045
Pretty sure you can find that at treasury.gov. Military has definitely been spent on. Mandatory spending is higher than discretionary spending though... entitlements/pensions are more than 50% of total spending at this point.
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>>126118399
I was 18 at the time and I'd decided to put off university for a year to get work lol. I ended up spending months on the dole and watching shit daytime TV before finally getting a job in May and going to university that September.

I remember the dole lines all the way down the street though. I lived in a small city in the UK too, like 30k people. It was like something out of the great depression, it was horrible. Not just your usually tracksuit chavs either, actual businessmen in suits who had lost everything.
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>>126128965
Fucking obama leaf cucked us again guys
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>>126118399

I don't even remember that. I just know many people lost their homes.
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>>126128965

Too bad everything you posted was false information.

Have a goodnight
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>>126129031
reminder that this is the only defense trumpcucks use when they get cucked in an argument
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>>126129031
right wing retards savagely btfo itt

oh man how i can go to sleep now

I'm amped up on right wing retard genocide
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>>126118399

I was already poor. Checkmate, atheists.
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>>126128850
And you fail to address the fact that your lisbhit ideas are the ones that create the problems that you feel you need to solve. You are the one getting BTFOd
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>>126129134
I already btfo all his arguments in the past, he´s not here to discuss
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>>126129031
a detailed standardised trump thread is posted every few hours at most.
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Trump is going to kill us all, the GDP will be saved with bitcoin. Digits confirm.
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>>126129118
>shill fake shill fake shill fake
This is all you fucks do in every argument. You provide nothing. Yet you label everything that doesn't confirm your alternate reality as fake.

Unfortunately, plugging your ears like a little child and yelling SHILL SHILL SHILL doesn't work outside of middle school. The only person you will be convincing with that tactic is yourself
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>>126128888
Yeah, no. He never ran a surplus. To his credit, he got close.
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>>126129232
WE DINDU NUFFIN (checks pic)

8 year GOP PRESIDENCY = THE BIGGEST WE DINDU NUFFIN CHIMPOUT IN HISTORY

Top fucking kek

George Bush: we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68&nohtml5=False [Embed]
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>>126129184
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-27/barack-obama-now-only-president-history-never-have-year-3-gdp-growth
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>>126129243
I already BTFOd you in the past too
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>>126127908
Go read about how the process actually works.

President submits a budget. It will be referred to as his but really Congress writes the bill and creates the budget.

This is because budgets are laws and the President does not create laws. Congress does. This is why it's called the "legislative branch".

Every time I spot you on 4chan it's like talking to a 4 year old. Except worse, because 4 year olds usually learn. You're still spouting the same bullshit as you have been since at least last year.
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>>126129343
The entire world knows that Clinton ran 4 straight budget surpluses. Fuck even Republicans don't deny it. But right wing retards read a fake news craigsteiner blog and they think they know better.

The entire 2000 election was about what to do with the surplus but u fucking retards are just dumb as fuck.
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>>126129433
I BTFO him so hard his mom came.
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>>126118399

>How did u survive 2008

By not being born :^)
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I started a gay escort service catering to liberal Washingtonians. Took in the ass for a while, but eventually came out on top.
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>>126129232
>I'm not the puppet, YOU'RE the puppet
Wow you go gurl!
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>>126129333
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>>126129353
Bush is a Libshit... not sure what your point is
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>>126129353
.using trumpcucks own tactics and manner of speech to trigger them
B A S E D
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>>126129482
The entire world except the Treasury department apparently, which is where the table is available.

What you need to do is explain exactly how the federal debt increased every year Clinton was in office if he was truly able to create a surplus.
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>>126118399
Still cant triforce on a phone. What have i become
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>>126118399
>How did YOU survive the 2008 mega-recession?
By already being poor
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>>126129526
I fuckin hate when libshits try to justify their economic bullshit. I
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>>126118399
I stayed home during the 08 election. Was thinking voting for Ron Paul but I didn't registers in time. It was shitty but not as bad as it is now.
>no under 30 hour min for part timers
>weren't force to buy really expensive healthcare
>Obamas rulings weren't in yet

It was nice, I miss working more then 20 hours a week.
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"right wing retards LOL"

Lmao what a cuck.
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>>126129473
God I fucking love it. Lol right wing retards shit on the Obama economy for 8 years then suddenly try to take credit for it. You filthy retards are the biggest degenerates on the planet.


Can you name one policy that the Democratic Congress passed in 2007. 2007!!! that caused that? No you can't. That's what I thought bitch.

Holy shit even Republicans called it the Obama economy.
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>>126129433
>>126129243
I btfo both of you in the past. This guy too >>126129511
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>>126129482
John Kasich.
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>>126118662
i love how you started obamas boom in 2010 lol pathetic
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>>126129482
Ignoring the fact that presidents don't write laws, even though you keep saying they do, Clinton's best years were actually a result of the dot-com boom.

That later crashed.
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>>126129737
He is breddy based desu. Takes on the establishment cucks on this board.
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>>126129803
>not understanding how exponential functions work
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>>126129737
shareblue has like one poster on right now...not sure whats up but hes the only one here right now...
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>>126129765
I explained to you ad nauseam, but you're to much a bitch and worship the god of state to understand.
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>>126129765
You don't even seem aware that we have 3 branches of government or what they do. You think the President literally runs the country.

This is why you keep losing your debates.

You don't know anything about America's form of government.
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>>126129652
What you need to explain is why you're so fucking retarded that you don't know what a budget surplus is.

Do u really think for 1 second that u have the mental ability to understand the complex relationship between the debt, deficit and the Social Security Trust fund?

God I love it. Everything u right wing retards don't like, u just pretend it's fake. Obama's unemployment rate magically became fake for 8 years but now it's magically back to normal.
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>>126129765
Does your Canadian ass even understand how the unemployment number is calculated?
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>>126125458
I would imagine real estate was fucked no matter where you were.
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>>126129737
Nah I don't go to leftypol.
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>>126129473
>not knowing that unemployment is a delayed variable that always lags behind GDP
Your graph pretty much proves that economy managed by dems leads to lower unemployment while those managed by republishits leads to higher unemployment
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>>126118399

Because I can always roll with the punches.

No matter how bleak it is, or how bright it is.

It's one of my gifts.
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>>126118399
i wasnt born yet
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>>126127974
what kind of business deals only in cash
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>>126128358

2/3

Fathers of families were applying to work at mac Donald's or supermarkets etc. They would heard applicants like cattle through the job app process. I got accepted to two of these events. You;d have middle age men close to tears being placed in group seminars given a slip and told to await a response if you should make it to stage two. These people were being used to make numbers there was no stage two, positive discrimination made sure of that, it was all white British men that attended these things, it didn't take a genius to realise what was going on.

I say I didn't really survive it, because today I'm still on the system, the Tory policy at the time was to shift the JSA applicants over to ESA so that that it would appear like unemployment was going down. The health issues that I've suffered as a result of this heavy destitution will kill me young. I was thrown into a derelict council flat, these things were designed to last to 2010 and were built after the war. It had previously had some sort of heavy water damage, its completely overcome with toxic black mold and damp, it's destroying my liver at a level consistent with an alcoholics, my lungs are a mess, I have a condition known as visual snow, all this due to the mold. The apartment is likely in the sights for demolition, the land to be sold to the private sector.

I was sent a letter one day in '15 I think I can't really remember, my mind is a mess, it was to attend an interview regarding my benefits claim, the date for the interview being 2 days prior to the letters receipt. The pittance was sanctioned, I was left with £5 a week for six months. This money was spent on electricity, which was rationed to 1 shower every 3 days, zero lighting, the microwave/kettle/oven would be prioritised, If I had any electricity meter credit left over, then I would wash my clothing once during this fortnight cycle. At my lowest point, I was eating cats.
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>>126130035
You realize that when u have to resort to posting fake news graphs, u already lost right?

I btfo u retards every time. Watch this. You never even defend your own bullshit.

Lol I always love when right wing retards post made up charts that they can't even defend.

Median income went up under Obama. Not down. It went from $53.5k to $56.5k and we still have 2016 numbers to come in.

Why the fuck do you right wing retards just make shit up?

Where the fuck are you getting Obama starting median income $57.7k? Where? Show me a link.

Honestly, you know what. It's so fucking obvious u right wing retards don't even know when Obama took office.
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>>126118399
Lived in Texas but I just starting high school at the time. My mother worked in a high up position in T-mobile earning about 90k a year. Didn't affect us.
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>>126130066
Debt to GDP Ratio, Idiot!
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt-to-gdp
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>>126130137
I know all about U3, U4, U5 and U6.

You right wing retards don't have a fucking clue.

Hey retard, what does U4 measure?
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>>126130495

Obamaleaf, what are you doing up so late?

3 day weekend?
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>see Obama leaf post
>dont even need to read his posts to know that they consist of 50% "right wing retards" and 50% copy paste shill arguments accompanied with the same 10 pictures he uses every time

can't you at least be more creative sometimes?
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>>126125857
>urban retard doesn't understand underemployment
The U3 measurement we use isn't a good measure of the labor force because it leaves out discouraged and underemployed workers.
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50 posts. I won. When all right wing retards can do is try to take credit for OBAMA AND CLINTON GREATNESS while completely dinduing Bush, Trump trainwrecks.. it's over.

quads have spoken
>>126128888
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>>126130381
>reddit spacing
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>>126124045
>cut unemployment in half
He rephrased unemployment. Look up "Labor Participation rate". It went down every year under Obama, but somehow unemployment went down too. It's the same thing he did with deportations. He changed the definition, so turning someone away at the border was considered a deportation.

Those jobs he brought in? Cost us 230 years worth of debt (paid to banks to beg for low rates, not paid to people as salaries)

Obama is a CIA Democrat. Everything about his success is a lie.
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>>126130613
Funny how Trump embraced U3 as soon he took office.

You retards actually thought it was 42% because Trump told u and he knows u retards will believe anything.


All measures from U3 to U6 plummeted under Obama.

Funny how now with Trump u don't say anything about """real""" unemployment rates
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>>126130495
Again, you don't know shit about unemployment rates idiot. Its a formula of those who request unemployment insurance and a survey. They don't count those who stop looking.
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>>126130658
>He rephrased unemployment.

No he didn't. The only people who """rephrased""" unemployment are right wing retards who started counting my 80 year old retired grandma who is out of the labor force as "unemployed"

Find me 1 shred of evidence that Obama magically recalculated how unemployment is calculated. Oh that's right u can't.

And retard... u not knowing what U4,U5 and U6 are is not an argument. >>126130752
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>>126130633
>When i lose, i win.
this is the power of canada.
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>>126125858
if you really do eat your shotgun please send me money first
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>>126130633
You are an idiot that sucks cock. If you massively increase a deficit and drastically lower, as Odummy did, they you get your chart!
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>>126130878
AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

95 GORILLION!!!!!!

You retards actually think my 80 year old retired grandma is unemployed holy shit.

There are 95 gorillion RETIREES, full time high school students, full time university students, stay at home moms, sick, disabled, etc. NOT IN THE LABOR FORCE.


What is the right wing retard conspiracy here?

WHO THE FUCK DID U THINK THE 95 GORILLION WERE?
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>>126130358

3/3

I say that was the lowest, I started looking at children as easy prey. That was when I decided I needed to act to stop myself from doing something horrible. I attacked a police officer to force the state to deal with me before it got worse. I say attacked but really it was the absolute minimum of an assault. The benefits were reinstated but I'm back to this squalor, this hellhole.

When you say have I survived, I haven't really, I've lost any sense of humanity I once had, along with my sanity, and my health is decaying rapidly. Whats more I feel that there is worse in store for me before it ends with the Tory's guaranteed a majority at this point, I expect to go back to the bad times.

Still, at least I'm not a fucking wage cuck.
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>>126130878
>>126131011
and then these retards wonder why I call them right wing retards.

I mean holy shit my laughing filenames shoulda been a clue.

My 80 year old retired grandma isn't out of the labor force because she stopped looking, she's RETIRED u absolute fucking moron.
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>54 posts by this ID
>Coming to /pol/ to argue with people who think you are retarded anyways

Why try so hard to be mediocre when you are already a leaf?
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>RIGHT WING RETARD
>RIGHT WING RETARD

how will we ever recover from such a diverse range of arguments?
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>>126131131
That's it I can only take so much right wing retard stupidity.

These fucking retards have no clue what a labor force is or what an unemployment rate is.

good night
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>>126131180
Inb4 my accurate assessments of your intelligence, are the arguments
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>>126118399
I was on a 10 year project funded by municipal bonds.
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>>126131180
>>126131268
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>>126118399
>How did YOU survive the 2008 mega-recession?
I'm 30. I graduated college from UC Santa Barbara in 2010.

I voted for Obama in the 2008 election and thought he would change things. Nope, change takes time. And nothing really changed from the pre-recession other than money printing and more American violence.

I graduated with a BA in Cultural Anthropology in March 2010. After that, I was unemployed for 7 years until December 2016 when I finally got a job working at the movie theater part time for California minimum wage $10.50 per hour. Which I work at right now.

During those 7 years, I spent a lot of time going to thrift shops and garage sales to find shit to sell on Amazon and eBay for cash. I played a lot of tabletop RPGs with other unemployed people, I do miss that, and I can't find time to play RPGs now that I work.

And I still live with my parents, its unrealistic for me to ever move out at this point, with how little money I make coupled with how high rents are in California. I'm still a virgin at 30, I haven't had a girlfriend since the pre-recession period in 2007. I do think another major recession is coming, and it will make the 2008 one look like a cake-walk.
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Was on apprenticeship to finish up being a mortician in Kansas. Worst that happened to me was my rent spiking pretty bad so I moved to a tiny town just a handful of miles away to get even cheaper rent than before.

Though I do know friends of mine in places like Lawrence, Topeka, and Manhattan lost a shitton.
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I don't get how all you Trump retards think that if we give billionaires and jews more money they will somehow share it with you. Maybe you all secretly want to be jews.
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>>126131268
>>126131376
Oops I meant in BETWEEN the accurate assessments of your intelligence, are the arguments.
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>>126118399
Moved out of my nice 3 bedroom suburban apartment with skylights in metro detroit, to a 1 bedroom shithole apartment in a fun but exponentially more dangerous part of downtown when i was laid off. I drew unemployment for a year and budgeted out everything perfectly, plenty of weed, food and anything else i needed. Also developed a bad demerol addiction, that i would take in the oldschool clawfoot bathtub everynight after drinking a few pitchers at the local pub with dinner. Finally quit and got my shit together when i woke up under water once after 8 months or so.
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>>126130752
Listen here, fag. I never once claimed it was 42%, but the fact of the matter is that clearly the """real""" unemployment rate was significantly worse than 5-6% would suggest due to underemployment. Clearly not 40%, but something more than an economy at """full employment""" would suggest.
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>>126131011
Again you provide bullshit charts that have no sauce.

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/07/16/unemployment-is-low-but-more-workers-are-leaving-the-workforce
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>>126130917
Nigger you don't need to be a wizard to go out and educate yourself.

An additional 3% of the country's total living population stopped working under Obama. That's over 10 million people.
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>>126131533
What's your argument? That you're so fucking retarded that you didn't know that when baby boomers retire, THEY LEAVE THE LABOR FORCE. Wtf did u think retirement is.

You retards have absolutely no fucking clue what a labor force or what an unemployment rate is.
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>>126129732
I fucking love it when right wing retards attempt to feign ignorance and rewrite history to their favor.

Like a child denying he stole the cookie while still holding it in front of his face because he's too stupid to know better
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>>126131649
Again, the CLFPR is falling because of retiring boomers.

WTF DID U THINK IT WAS? You retards never answer this.

>>126131222
>>126131011
>>126131692
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>>126129736
would you prefer the more colloquial "trumpcuck" sir?
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>>126118662
Fake News
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>>126131429
We're not trying to take money we didn't earn. We want people to keep their own money especially those who provide jobs to people like you so that they have more shit to do then shill on /pol/.
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>>126131649
What does it say for age in your chart? 16 years AND OVER. AND OVER. Do u know what AND OVER means? It means 16+. No upper age limit. That's retiring boomers.

Here's 25 to 54. Oh look it went up under Obama.

See what I mean? You retards are dumb.
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>>126130035
lol in what world was the media income ever six figure HAHAHAHA

fucking right wing retards will fall for anything
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>>126130343

Even Drug dealers are using digital lol.
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>>126131519
>Listen here, fag. I never once claimed it was 42%

Ok fair enough you didn't.

Guess who did tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np40ayMJI1Y
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>>126131877
take the official retirement age and you get btfo. but you take 54 what a nonsense
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>>126118399
the same way im going to get rich again in the next one lol, ps i dont buy the dip.
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>>126131763
Again, you are cherry picking shit to support your cause. You have failed to answer any question I gave you, instead you act like a self righteous libshit. I am already an idiot for trying to reason with you.
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>>126132045
That's considered prime age employment.

You retards realize that U4 includes """disouraged""" Trump voters right? It's 4.7%.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/U4RATE
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>>126132045
>>126132172
U3 unemployment is 4.4%. U4 is 4.7%. Job openings are at all time highs.

So the question is why are right wing retard Trump voters still """"discouraged""""?
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>>126132225
So., what you are saying is that the Welfare state makes it to where people do not wish to be productive?
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>>126131942
Yep, which is really retarded. He's from NYC, though, so he's just an urban retard.

Anyway, you're way more knowledgeable about the current state of things than most people here, even if you're a communist shill who should get a free helicopter ride
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>>126132608
Lol u think I'm a communist.

Barack Obama saved capitalism after Bush nearly destroyed it.
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