Why are republicans trying to ruin vaping for everyone? It's

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Vaping is degenerate. The whole vape movement thing is degenerate.

>>126030586
thanks doc

>>126030586

Honestly vaping is gay as fuck. It's like being a flamboyant faggot in public. But so is fucking dudes in the ass, and I don't care about faggots being faggots in the privacy of their own homes.

Don't subject me to your meme smoke.

>>126030586

Republicans are cigar men. Organic tobacco.

Democrats hate cigarettes. Blue states have the harshest tobacco taxation.

If you haven't figured it out yet, the GOP is a party of pure evil. They don't give a shit about your rights or your life even.

>>126030586
Vapes are for fags

>>126030586
What is ((big tobacco)) ?

>>126030586
>It's 99% healthier than cigarettes
Please provide proof of said claim.

In addition, it is totally irrelevant. You think it is normal to inhale unnatural and processed chemicals is right?

t:Current "vaper" and 100% irrational nicotine addict.

Fuuuuuugggg

>>126030804
>>126030865
Amen. The whole "duh imma vaper hurr more healthy than smokin wif cigurets" is a cancer.

This is coming from someone who actually vapes (eLeaf iStick, for the "duh imma vaper hurr whashur vape bro?" faggots)

>>126030586
Don't care if it's healthy or for faggots, people have the right to choose, and pay the consecuences. Get out the goverment from my lungs.

Vaping looks goofy as hell but at least I'm saving money and not smelling like toxic waste 24/7. I hate the whole vape culture tho, it's extremely cringey, you don't see cigarette enthusiasts who won't shut up about their Marlboros everywhere, do you? I wonder why people can't just admit they are addicted to nicotine and vaping is a way to sort of solve this, and that's it, you don't need to turn it into your fucking identity ffs

>>126030586
>Fellating the robot dick

>>126030586
I don't know if it's dangerous. but it is stupid.

I thought Republicans were for freedom.

Because the mod you posted is a fucking piece of shit that keeps autofiring all the time

Fucking chinks ripped me off again

>>126031276
Definitely - I started vaping because it's cheaper than smoking and more pleasant to those around you.

>>126030586
They are trying to fuck with vapes over here in the UK too, yes I know vaping looks faggy as fuck but they honestly are a great tool to stop smoking.

>>126031052
I just find that I can get more nicotine and less withdrawal with a small cartridge based vape with 50mg liquid compared to cigarettes. Also cigarettes have far more unidentified chemicals that I don't have the time to research. I'm pretty hesitant to believe it has no long term side effects like some people are claiming though

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>>126030586
>220 watts

How are they fucking with it? I understand it might be healthier than smoking, but they want to make sure it itself doesn't become a hip thing that kids start doing. It still has an addictive substance in it and they should get taxed like cigarette companies.

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>>126031052
Well there isn't tar in vapes so I assume having cleaner lungs is healthier than massive tar buildup over the years of cigarette smoking.
I don't vape it's just my thought since people who switched from cigarettes to vapes report greater endurance and getting winded less frequently esp. from mundane activities such as walking up a flight of stairs.

How do you even get addicted to nicotine, I smoke about 7-8 a day when I'm at uni, probably about 15 on nights out. When I go home over summer though I can go lurk 3 months without touching them just like that.

>>126030586
Thanks doc

What the fuck are you talking about? Go buy juice in California or New York. It is more expensive than any republican state because Dems tax the everliving fuck out of everything to pay for gibs.

>>126030865
Well stated

No hash oil, no care

>>126030586
>Republicans
The only person screwing with my prices right now is a Democrat.

Tobacco companies don't make money from vaping and e-cigarettes so they lobbied for harder laws and procedures for those products to be sold.

>>126030586
Because they are all shills for big business and in this case its for big tobacco

>>126031421
Mine hasnt autofired..i got the all blqck one.

I use to smoke cowboys(Marlboro Reds) and was coughing up a storm,and every morning i'd wake up and start coughing violently. Than I started vaping.
>no more smokers cough.
>no more violent coughs.
>I can breathe better.
>all the bitches wanna hit my vape.

>>126031394
no, republicans are for theocracy and enforcing their personal beliefs on others - their marketing campaign focuses on freedom but only like 2/15 of their positions are pro freedom

The only thing wrong with vaping is that vaporizers aren't dispensing sarin, cyanide, or zyklon B

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>>126030586
Vaping is retarded, who gives a fuck.

>>126031769
It's different for some people. My parents are chimneys but my brother can just smoke like once a month or something. I don't smoke at all so can't say what I would be.

>>126031981
Same
Was told the firmware update was supposed to fix it but nope
Probably just gonna go back to squares at this point

>>126031276
It sells the stuff. Pretty obvious that manufacturers have a pretty big hand in the vaping culture. People in the West are looking everywhere for a smidgeon of identity and turn to the market to buy it. Anyways, big tobacco's gonna big tobacco. That's why they're going after vapes.

they're doing autists that vape a favor by trying to make them not look like complete fags. Remember that cringe kid in middle school that would always do embarrassing things and needed guidance to not act like such a fool? It's quite a lot like that. They're helping vaping spergs out, they should ban fedoras and cargo shorts while they're at it.

The uncertainty over whether or not vaping is healthy is born out of very loosely "scientific" studies, and its propagation is textbook lobbying by the (((cigarette industry)))

>>126030804
sort of not really.

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>>126032163

>>126031769
Wait till your older it gets worse.

>>126030586
>It's 99% healthier than cigarettes
Please provide scientific proof of this.
Cigs are almost harmless, you've been memed by the vaporized jew

>>126032065
so edgy, don't you have homework to do?

>>126031421
No autofiring on mine. Got the all white Empire starwars edition.

>>126032468
Kek

>>126031556
>I don't have the time to research
Wait. So basically, you have time to make up random statistics but don't have time to "do research".

Because there is no research. You are a ass-hat sperg who just makes shit up for attention.

Shut the fuck up.

I got a statistic for you. 99% chance that you have had a cock in your ass in the last 72 hours.

>>126030586
>It's 99% healthier than cigarettes
[citation needed]

>>126031769
you prob aren't smoking it properly.
Anytime you actually inhale, even after smoking for years, you get a slight buzz.
Nicotine is a poison, if you get it in your system and you don't have a tolerance, you get sickly feeling. Once you build a tolerance you don't get it as easy. If you don't smoke for months at a time, and then smoke, and don't feel buzzed or sickly, then you're doing it wrong

>>126030586
>Republicans
>not being statist communist fucktards

>>126030804
yap

>>126032679
Over 400 chemicals in one cigarette
>4 in vape juice

>>126031769
You don't smoke just fags, homo.

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Vaping is gay as uck
>>126030865
Yep


I smoke. Everyone I know smokes. We are the longest live males on planet earth despite so many of us smoking. Just smoke fucking cigarettes you dumb pussy

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>>126032679
Smoking cigarettes is absolutely destructive to lung tissues. Vaporized nicotine is not.

t. chemist

PS to OP: It's because, like all politicians, Republicans are fucktards.
You know what you should do? Ignore the law. Why? Why not?

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>>126031756
This picture is a hoax btw. Smoking doesn't stain lung tissue

>t. Surgeon

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Vaping cuts into jews tobacco sale profits...

Jewpublicans must do as told by their jewish owners, so no more vaping for you goy!

>>126032468
You tighten your own belt because he's not after your girl.

>>126030804
Fu

>>126031756
>people who switched from cigarettes to vapes report greater endurance and getting winded less frequently
This is totally true for me. When I switched to vaping to help me quit smoking my lungs just cleared out over a few weeks. It was amazing how shitty I felt all the time without even realizing it. Now I'm down to a couple vape hits a day with a little pen vape and the lowest nicotine level juice I could buy at my local shop. Vaping is dorky af but it saved me.

>>126032792
At least 95.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/e-cigarettes-around-95-less-harmful-than-tobacco-estimates-landmark-review

Vaping is smoking for fags.

>>126030804
go fuck yourself dude

>>126032867
>Nicotine is a poison
Every fucking chemical is a poison retard. Even if the "Poisoning" is osmotic leeching

>>126033105
Question: What about the artificial flavorings? Is there not a chance of carcinogens or other health risks associated with them?

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>>126033165
>implying you aren't feeding the jew by buying vapes

>>126031696
Why tax it if nicotine is good for you

>>126030865
This. vaping in public is top-tier faggotry

>>126031756
I wonder what they taste like

>>126030586
>this new product without any long/term studies is safer than the one which has existed for hundreds of years!
>why don't republicans just blindly accept this?!?!?

shareblueballs -> "oh they love vape post abt repubs hating vaping trump is done for lulul"

shill thread

Just smoke weed, It's not that gay and even healthier

>>126030586
Trump. Of course it has to be Trump. Don't ask how or why. It just simply has to be Trump.

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>>126033105
>Vaporized nicotine is not.
Your in-progress bachelors degree in chemistry with your 1.9GPA doesn't make you an expert retard.


>t. Surgeon

>>126030586
>ctrl f lobby
>one result
>>126032277
based Aussie telling as it is.
cig companies try to fight very hard to block it, they suffered enough from no smoking policies already

>>126033442
We have a winner.

>>126030586
>It's 99% healthier than cigarettes

nicotine is still nicotine faggot

>>126031052
No one's going to mention your obvious fuck ups?

>tfw most of this board is so new no one even understands the culture well enough to protect it

>>126033305
Google "Popcorn lung" for a fun view of how safe vaping weird chinese chemicals is.

>>126033329
Nicotine isn't good for you, it's just not horrible for you. There is still some shit in e-cigarettes though and nicotine is creating an absolute dependence on something so now you gotta buy it forever no matter what. It's potentially the best way to make current smokers "healthier" but it's no doubt becoming a fad too for new users.

>>126033553
>protecting an internet culture
shut the fuck up newfag pretending to be an old fag

t;;; 4chang poster since 2004

>>126032051
LoL... you haven't live surrounded mudslimes yet...

>>126030804

Fuck you

>>126030804
fu hilary

>>126030586
idk. maybe logically speaking, the reason is because of the advertisement of vaping that said 'it's healthier than tobacco'.
Although it can brings smokers into a healthier habit (is it? that's what you said so i will go with for argument sake), it also brings attraction from people that doesn't smoke in the first place into joining this less dangerous cancer-inhaling hobby.

But i highly doubt politicians can think that deep :/

Also, smoke tricks are gay.

>>126030586
still gotta make money on cigarettes

>>126032679
I didn't make up random stats. I just said I find I can get more nicotine with less side effects. Anecdotal, but I'm not making up statistics.

>>126030804
Ffuukkk you

>>126033500
Yeah... And nicotine is not the harmful ingredient in cigarettes. It's on par with coffee in regards to toxicity.

>>126030586
VAAAAAA
PEEEE
NAYSSSHHH
BRAHHH

>>126033649
That was actually just one specific butter flavor that was well known to cause that problem. But I see your point, we don't know if others may have adverse effects

>>126030804
Mommy no

>>126033403
Shut up

>>126030586

Because 10,000 little faggots with battery tubes does not even make 1 Marlboro.

>>126034093
>Only happend once :D
>Buys weird chinese chemicals
>Doesn't understand or even have their composition labeled
>Heats them to 350C +++
>Inhales them into his lung
>Safe

>>126034283
>Heats them to 350C
Actually usable temperature is aroun 200C

>>126033305
Not really. Here's the gestalt on artificial flavorings: They're the chemicals that give natural foods/materials their flavors/smells.
For example, butyric-based compounds provide both butter and artificial butter flavoring their noted flavor.

There may be contamination in a poor-quality mix however, so don't buy off-the-wall shit.

>>126033660
The levels of nicotine in nicotine products is actually good for you. It acts as a nootropic substance. The dose makes the poison my friend. Inhaling smoke, esp. fresh smoke, is what causes the harm. Particularly with fresh smoke that often only partially oxidized, and tends to be quite reactive with other organic compounds in the presence of oxygen, like those found in mucus tissues in the lungs. This leads to inflammation which can lead to carcinogenic or mutagenic effects.

Males in my country have the longest lifespan on earth, and one of the highest incidence of cigarette smoking in europe. Smoke cigarettes is not particularly dangerous. Ameribugers and their anti-smoking meme is always hilarious to me while I watch them eat deep-fried triple mayonnaise butter bars

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>>126034283
>Buying Chinese trash ever

>>126034467
>Smoke cigarettes is not particularly dangerous
Only if your tobacco company aren't fucking around.

>>126034467
>deep-fried triple mayonnaise butter bars

holy shit that sounds amazing.

>>126034443
Ohh wow. So much safer. Only 85% thermal degradation, thermal oxidation, and polymer cross-linking instead of 93%. I'm going to go inject chinese chemical mixtures right into my ballsack right now. Thanks
>>126034560
This, but in vapor form and inhaled
>>126034456
No they aren't retard. Art.Flavorings are almost never directly derived from natural compounds. Unless you're going to argue "Hue hue they both have aromatic rings hue hue hue". Your in-progress bachelors in chemistry is so fucking obvious

>>126033230
This

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>>126034467
Well, there's all the nuke testing done out in the SW that's still putting radioisotopes into the air blowing east to this very day, that no one seems to remember...

>smoking
You all deserve whatever fucks with your degenerate habit.

>>126034283
>weird chinese chemicals
the e juice and the chemicals in the e juice I buy are made in the USofA

>>126034792
>Only 85% thermal degradation, thermal oxidation, and polymer cross-linking instead of 93%. I'm going to go inject chinese chemical mixtures right into my ballsack right now.
No one will advice you to use this shit. But my point is that cigs could be pretty shitty.
If you really want to enjoy smoking - pipe is the only way.

>>126030586
>Republicans

Every anti smoking law in the last 20 years has beem pushed by Democrats.

vaporized inhaler base v LITERAL BURNING FOLIAGE. pick one.

>>126034926
Costa Rica is worst Cuba.

>>126034926
>Oh no, an adult is making a choice I don't like
Being straight edge is the only straight thing about you m8

>>126034792
Sorry bud. Artificial cinnamon flavoring is cinnamaldehyde, which is also the main component in cinnamon responsible for its flavor. There are of course other components in natural cinnamon which differ it slightly from the fake stuff. But the starring role in both cases is cinnamaldehyde. I bet you think MDMA puts holes in your brain too.

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>>126034467
Well, the Swiss probably aren't smoking Pall Malls or Newports

>>126034814
you write like such a fucking redditor i have an insane hatred for you.
>>126035000
Sure an asbestos cigarette is bad mojo, just saying mate, smoking is A-Ok in moderation (3-5cigs a day). And I would prefer smoking over vaping any day. Fuck heating some polymer to high temperatures and not expect it to oxidize/cross-link and form covalent shit bonds with my brachia.
>>126034931
No, they're mixed in the US. Email the supplier and ask them EXACTLY where they get their polymers from that are used as a substrate for the nicotine/flavor. Guaranteed they're buying them from china since NO ONE ELSE produces these chemicals any more :^)
>>126035215
>heh checkmate i found this one example
dude Nestle is based here and I worked for them as a kiddo faggot, they're the largest producer / RND firm for Art.Flavorings on earth. your sub-bachelors in life science pussy farting doesnt qualify you

>>126030804
I agree vaping is degenerate.

>>126035140
Fuck off commie.
>>126035200
It's still degenerate. /pol/ drinking corporate koolaid again, I see.

What a retarded topic. But at least the "vaping is fedoras lol" campaign worked. I remember the time kikes had feminist sites post anti vaping shit, it was fun. Even our gal laci green did it. I remember "vaping is toxic masculinity" articles and "vaping is for fedoras". Guess it worked on bluepilled faggots.

Vaping looks gay if you look gay. And vaping culture exists because people have no identity, and no interesting hobbies outside of tv. When you present them wirh something they can identify with, they latch onto it, plus it's fun to build shit. Blame shitty culture.

Btw dems and lefties in general are the one that want to over regulate and tax shit and kill smaller actors, this is a shitty bait thread, sage.

>>126034931
Just like GMOs, some now banned prescription drugs, fluoride water, etc

>>126030586
Repubs... lmao. You mean libshits. They are trying to tax it like 60% here in Wa. Yes I have a douche flute.

>>126030586
Because it's really really gay. When I smell your crunch berry flavor (because you're gay) I know I'm inhaling your gay breath. It's disgusting.

It helped me quit dipping. Used to go though several cans a week, now I don't even have the urge to touch it.

I hate the vape culture too, but it's a great way to transition away from smoking or dipping.

>>126030586
Smoking is degenerate.

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>>126035407
Great. I have a guy from a country that can't decide whether it's French, German, or Italian critiquing me on my English.

Tell me to BUY GOLD next, please.

>>126030586
>no context given to his thread
>puts forth baseless assertion
Fuck off you board sliding nigger faggot.

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>>126035727

Also

>tfw my Congressman vaped during a hearing

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>>126035576
vaping is for fedoras because only faggot nerds vape dude. this isnt some kike conspiracy
>>126035770
You really want to defend yourself by starting a flag fight? You thing burger nigger land can stand against Switzerland? Are you sure about this fight reddit pal?

>>126030804
Vape culture is awful. It's absolute autistic cringe. I vape because I'm a nicotine addicted degenerate and it's cheaper than smoking two packs a day, doesn't stink, and I don't feel short of breath anymore. But I can't stand the people who make a lifestyle of it.

>>126030888
Agreed.
>Cigars
>Pipes
Puff away.
>Cancer sticks
>Coffin nails
You're a fucking nigger or fag.
>Chewin' tabacy
Based.

>>126035507
>degenerate
Hurrr anything I don't like is degenerate

>>126031769

>>126032867
This.
I'm currently in "the process of quitting" and every time I haven't smoked for like 3 days and then have a cigarette I get quite a strong buzz. Feels great though.

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>>126035983
Hahaha!

>>126033325

Look at the amount of small, non jewish stores selling vape stuff compared to big tobacco..

It definitely cuts into their profits, tobacco is a jewish monopoly, as of yet there is no vape juice or tech monopoly.

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I quit smoking years ago with lozenges. If vaping had existed, I don't know if I would have quit or not. I might have just switched to meme smoke. I'm actually glad vaping didn't exist back then, because now I don't smoke and haven't had any nicotine product for years and years.

Anything that gets smokers to stop smoking cigarettes is a good thing, but I've seen plenty of young people pick up vaping as a new habit. If a kid is going to grab either a cig or a vaporizer, I'd rather he vape.

They own cigarette company stocks.

>>126030586
>99% healthier
yeah nah, shitcunt
plus it makes you look like a fucking tool

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>>126035996
>You thing burger nigger land can stand against Switzerland? Are you sure about this fight reddit pal?

>>126033649

I only vape unflavored

Ingredients: PG, VG, nicotine

>>126036112
Keep smoking your cancer sticks, less retarded burgers for everyone.

>>126035407
>Contain US Kosher Grade Vegetable Glycerin
>Propylene Glycol
>USDA natural and artificial flavoring.

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>>126036251
Not so fast

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>>126036450
Real men do speed.

>>126036450
I will, because I'm an adult that can make their own choices.

>>126030586
Because they wan't government out of our lives. Oh wait..

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>>126036638

>>126036524

Havent seen any of those hebrew vapes stores here, most of the local merchandise is asian made, local liquids and american made liquids from small businesses.


Jews are also involved in alcohol sales, and the ethanol tax funds go directly into the gov (jews) pockets each time you buy.

Why not advocate against beer too then?

>>126030804
ffs

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But /ourguys/ vape

>>126030586

Nobody wants to breathe in your fucking cloud of fumes, you fucking disgusting manchild.

>>126030804
SHHIIIEEEETTTTT

>>126030586
They're trying to put an end to faggotry. Vaping just happens to fall under that umbrella.

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>>126036908
Would she technically be /ourcunt/?

Not having a dick and all...

>>126036280
I used vaping to quit. Just weened off the nicotine.

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>>126036918
Hey, I hate smelling azn/nigger/spic BO myself. Too bad we can't ban you subhuman shits. You "people" are worse than any drug.

>>126031756
You're still breathing in all kinds of fucked up chemicals though.

>>126030586
kikes at big tobacco of course

both are fucking retarded once you grow up and realize its a waste of money either way

>being proud of your dependence to an addictive chemical

I will never, ever understand.

>>126035576

Yeah how could I possibly imagine the lobbies would pay feminist rags to post synchronized anti vaping articles to scare young faggots. Of course the fact shit toer websites posring these in unisson was a 100% organic things because fuck toxic masculinity right ? I love daily dot and jezebel.

Plus the fedora meme is rerarded. Vaping is for hipsters with retarded tatoos and midlife crisis dudes. Fedora kids are straight edge, the meme is retarded. It worked tho, I guess.

If I vape weed to keep my lungs from getting all scarred up am I still a faggot? I only do it at home

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i dont care how "gay" they are

to me vaping is a harmless and sober alternative to smoking something

ur a fucking retard if u dont like these things

i dont vape but theres nothing bad about them

fuck these people who hate them just because they associate it with a certain type of person or something

go choke on a dick

>>126037583
*would only do it at home
I don't have a vape atm

>>126037583
>2017
>Vaping the oily jew

>>126030965
This.

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Congressman Hunter (R) is pushing a bill with a republican caucus that would remove Vaping being classified as a tobacco product.

Dr Scott (New FDA) head, has said in his first statement to FDA that harm reduction products (vaping) need to be embraced instead of discouraged.

I don't know where you're getting "republicans hate vapes" meme, but its retarded. Lobby groups for anitsmoking have decided to attack vaping as well, pushed FDA under BO to classify them as tobacco, with even worse regulations.

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>>126030586
>Why are republicans trying to ruin vaping for everyone?
Because bootlickers must suffer. You made big government bed now lie in it.

>>126037583
no thats degenerate xDD

le kill all drug users xDDD

#basedduerte

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>>126037583
>>126037665
If you feel the need to ask people here for permission, yes you are still a faggot.

Also, drop the weed, do some speed.

>>126030586
Here's a thought, nobody cares about the movement for vaping, and if you do those guys are fucking losers. I vape because I enjoy it, I can do it around my computer and not hurt it. It's safer, cleaner, and tastes better.

It's essentially smoking without the guilt or risk.

I use the 3 mg/5ml nictoine. Let's say that in a 15 ml tank you have 5mg of nicotine. Lets say you vape that for half or maybe the whole day, cigarettes themselves have 8mg to 20mg maximum. Even if you smoke that half a day, each tank is half of a regular cigarette.

Now the beauty is you don't even notice the drop, because it still psychologically registers and you're still smoking. This is what helps people quit.

People who are against vaping because smoking is more manly are seriously faggots. The masculine aspect of cigarrettes is retarded, this isn't the 40s anymore. Nobody thinks you're cool if you smoke anymore. Do what makes you happy.

>>126037778
Neocons man. Democrats in (poor)disguise.

>>126030586
We must regulate and tax everything, goy, how else will we pay for pensions and refugees?

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>>126036251
>Look at the amount of small, non jewish stores selling vape stuff compared to big tobacco..

And where do you think they get the nicotine juice from?

>>126030586
Because the Confederacy appreciates foremost an agrarian economy, while vaping in all of its components is a product of technological manufacture.
Come on now, you knew this one.

>>126037864
I'm going to do it now matter what /pol/ thinks, I was just contributing to the thread. Also, no speed only lucy.

>>126037716
>dry herb is oily

>>126031052
Its estimated to be 97-98% safer than cigarettes so is OP is technically wrong

>>126038045
>Le Republican Confederacy meme XD

The South was solid blue up until about 40 years ago

>>126030865
basically

>>126037864
How do you procure this shit? I used to buy Adderall off of over-prescribed college students, is there any other way other than getting a Rx?

>>126030865

Cigarettes are phallic as fuck. I used vaping to quit smoking and now I dont vape or smoke. Its useful for people who havent had success with the patch or gum.

>why isn't assault legal it's much safer than homicide??!

>>126030804
Vaping itself is not degenerate, its just people who vape are ex-smokers and are therefore degenerate

>>126033243
>The (((NHS))) says it's okay

Your government also says it's fine to let Muslims rape your women.

>>126037266
E-juice is literally just nicotine, flavor, and vegetable glycerin or propylene glycol
None of that shit is dangerous.
>inb4 muh propylene glycol is antifreeze!
Go to any pharma store, PG is literally the base for all of their OTC shit. Nyquil/Dayquil? Yep! Robitussin? Yep!

>>126030586
>Vaping
>Any year
Tipsfedora.jpg

>>126037869
Fact: cigarettes were first designed as a way to market "cigars" to women

I'm on my cig break at work and just had to lend a colleague a cig because his hipster stick ran out of charge.
Vape or cigarettes your still a smoker

>>126038282
That's because blue political ideology was still pretty safely anti-negro outside of New England.

Does spewing hot poisonous vapors into public airspace violate the NAP?

>taxing the mouth fedora
I'm OK with this, they're all libtards anyway

>>126035407
>smoking is A-Ok in moderation (3-5cigs a day)

wat

>>126038584
Looking at someone the wrong way violates the NAP

>>126038485
>Taking daily doses of cold medicine

Pretty sure that's not healthy for you either.

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I'm in the industry, and one of the things I've noticed is that a lot of the other people are degenerates. Lots of current and recovering heroin addicts. I see at least one person from vaping "passing away meme-orial OD" on FB a week.

This has made me not socialize with most of the industry and just design shit in my comfy house.

>>126038634
Shit son, my own older brother vapes, and he's a non-reading FoxNewser of the worst kind.

>>126038330
Darknet n bitcoin.
Switch to meth and you might get a better deal.
Or, if you wanna try something "legal", learn how to do a basic extraction of propylhexedrine from the OTC inhalers(kinda expensive but generally clandestine as fuck).

If you choose the meth route, just stick to therapeutic oral doses and you'll be fine. Start smoking it, and you'll pay. Oh boy will you pay.

>>126038139
Good on you then. If you can get ahold of AL-LAD, do so now before it disappears.

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>>126038584
Displacing my personal supply of atmospheric oxygen is theft and thus violates the nap.

*deploys tactical nuke*

>>126033163
Fuck, my next surgeon may be a /pol/ack

>>126031769

>smoke pipes and cigars as a treat every few weeks
>an e cig when at work or walking the dog
>ran out of e liquid and didnt bother buying more for 2 weeks or so
>didnt need it or crave it, only smoke for the buzz and because it's relaxing

idk how people get addicted to smoking, you'd have to put serious effort into becoming a proper smoker

the culture surround vaping is fucking cringe though

>>126034467
>deep-fried triple mayonnaise butter bars

Holy fuck I want one of those.

>>126038709
Yes but it isn't the PG that makes you not want to take it everyday.
For any decongestant (usually DXM + Guafenisen) you don't want to take Guaifenisen long term because it could lead to kidney stones and shit.
Things with just diphenhydramine/alcohol like Zzquil is safe every day senpai, it also has PG.
Propylene glycol is super safe

>>126038955
Unfortunately the guy is now pushing chems as the real deal to everyone who isn't his friend so I'm gonna have to ease up on it.

>>126032039
but now you're a VAPIST

>>126038028

mine is made in liverpool

>>126031239
>Don't care if it's healthy or for faggots, people have the right to choose, and pay the consecuences

Not fighting degeneracy is bad for everyone, you fucking faggot. See what is happening to the west because of muuh liberty;
I can't belive there is still people thinking people should have unlimited liberty.

>>126038709
Also tons of lube typically has PG in it.

The entire anti-vaping memery is a psyops and lobbying campaign by American tobacco companies. If you could vape in the office and in bars and shit, almost everyone would switch just so they wouldn't have to stand outside looking like a jack ass.
Pyrion Flax, a britbottle who use to smoke heavily, switched to vaping when he had a kid. It doesn't have nearly the same stigma attached to it in Europe.

>>126038751
Same. Ill enjoy my arbitrary degeneracy at home. Most of the vaping videos are god tier autist parades.

>vaping libtards

Correlation does not equ.... fuck it nevermind.

>>126037445

I am not addicted, I dont even like some of the side effects.

But nicotine is the best know nootropic substance around these days, with the least damaging effects, and it greatly reduces the probability of developing neurodegenerative disease long run

i don't vape tobacco/nicotine or smoke cigarettes at all and never really have.

i consume marijuana daily and have for the last 6 years. i do not smoke it, i vaporize the whole herb using a volcano vaporizer which was designed by german engineers for use in gourmet cooking using all food-safe parts.

it is literally the healthiest and most efficient way to self medicate with marijuana and stretch your dollar the farthest. a single volcano bowl containing a pinch of weed you would smoke in 1 bong hit can keep me medicated for 24-48 hours.

i carry a small vape pen full of hash oil with me whenever I go out for the day but it is not nearly as effective as fully vaporizing the herb in my volcano at home.

i have used a bong <10 times in my life and rolled less than a handful of joints. smoking is just not pleasant for me and is super inefficient use of weed and the mechanics are not healthy.

marijuana vaping has serious medicinal advantages and should be promoted more, but instead we get all this retarded focus on vape fag who just vape flavored nicotine to blow clouds of smoke for 'fun'. you are as stupid as chain smokers and bing drinkers and you are causing regulation to be created against legitimate medical vapers.

>>126038955
I smoked meth once and it was frighteningly awesome. Made my legs hurt like hell during the comedown the next day though. Glad I have no easy/cheap access to it

Vaping is the only thing that helped me not smoke. Last cig was 3 years ago. And I barely vape now.

>>126030804

>>126030586
>Why are republicans trying to ruin vaping for everyone?
link? it was the dems pushing the smoking bans.

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>>126039410
>Not fighting degeneracy is bad for everyone, you fucking faggot.

Well go out and fight degeneracy then you fucking cunt.
Sitting around on 4chan, jerking off, sure as shit ain't fighting the devil. Self-righteous prick.

>>126038028

Fuck if know, probably kike tobacco sellers, but if your going to go full no kike boicot, it would be hypocritical to not take into account all the other jewish monopolies on major daily commodities as well.

Lots of tobacco production here, so local juices probably recycle back into local economy, I would hope anyways

>>126036026
Agreed. It boggles me that they attach their whole identity to a fucking liquid heater.

>>126030586
Because cigarettes were already on the way out and are much easier to tax and regulate. Now half of everyone in high school is addicted to nicotine because people treat vapes like chewing gum.

It's a gay ass fad anyway

>>126039418
American cigarettes contain PG as a stabilizer. Also, you are now aware that big tobacco washes all the alkaloids and essential oils out of cigarette tobacco and adds them back in controlled amounts.

>>126030804
>degenerate

>>126030586
I honestly couldn't give a fuck if it would somehow benefit those addicted to smoking and that it is in fact healthier than traditional smoking. It looks gay as fuck. At least you can look cool smoking a cigar or even a cigarette if you're ungodly photogenic. Even the weed poopsticks look less pathetic than vapes.

>>126038955
Also, how do you into darknet drug market without getting busted? Or even buy bitcoins for that matter?

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>>126036638
Senpai.

>>126030586

>Why are adults trying to stop children from hurting themselves? I'm SO mature! I can make my own decisions! :(

That's what I read.

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>>126039578
Think meth's bad, try a-pvp some time.
Gad and Satan are real and the same fucking faggot. You'll know when you've been awake for a week straight inside a dark house, eating bananas and berries and drinking ensures the whole time while every cop in the world is out to get you and some asshole keeps moving your things around your house as a joke.

Speed/stims are awesome until they suddenly aren't. WOOOOOOOOOT

>>126036033

chew/dip is for ruralfags who don't realize they are fucking disgusting. not to mention people who dip can only talk about dipping, almost to the same extent as vapers.

>>126040180
Are the shadow people real?

>>126030865
where did this meme even come from? Literally makes no sense. it's not anymore disruptive than actual cigarettes, in fact it's less. makes me think big gov and big tobacco are running a psyop

Whoever says that vaping is as dangerous as smoking is a fucking retard that should not reproduce

Vaping could benefits the pockets of everyone thanks to the the reduced risk of cancer and other illness

>but muh i don't vape because everything is degeneracy and nobody should enjoy life

Gas yourselves

>>126033453
Not an argument

>>126039949

That's why I vape in my car in the far-end of the parking lot at work - to hide my shame.

On the other hand, my resting heartrate went from 80 to 60 and my blood pressure is on the low end of normal instead of being high, and my ED went away, so I'd call it a definite improvement over smoking.

>>126039965
Coinbase, blockchain, tails/tor on a neighbor's ip, pgp

Connect the dots yourself

>>126030804
Top kek m8

Last time I posted this I got a 3 day ban.

>>126039658
Fuck you burger. Democracy is there for people to elect politicians who will represent their will, and that's how we fight degeneracy. People vote republicans so that they might limit degenerate liberties such as this faggy vape stuff.

>I like to beat up liberals and proud gay gringos like you though. Literally fighting degeneracy.

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>>126040286

Snus master race

>>126030804
Kek

>>126039965
google "darknet market noobs"

I recommend Local Bitcoins as your source of BTC. They're more costly, but there's far less questions asked. And if you're not high-volume, they're the way to go.
Just do a cash deposit and you're gtg. LBC guarantees bitcoin in escrow too, so no getting ripped off.

Electrum is a great wallet to use. You should always put any bought BTC into your own wallet for security. It also helps tumble the coin a bit.

>>126035407

most of the vg sold in the US is made by Humco in the USA

>>126039965
You can literally google buy bitcoin for a number of wallet sites you want to use.

>>126030586
You can fuck off with your anti smoking garbage until you come back with the actual stats for deaths caused by cigs, go ahead and find a study where it is the primary cause rather than a contributor on top of other unhealthy behavior. The ingredients in your food and soda will give you cancer and shorten your life more reliably than smoking, not that it's good but your opinion is so programmed it's ridiculous. Watch your dry mouth with your vape OP and we'll see what effects they are lying about now in 30 years

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why would you want to ban this

>>126040916
Why does she have two different colored nipples? I've seen some fucked tits, but never this. Is she a chimera?

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>>126040629

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>>126030586
Vaping is still 100% as faggy as cigarettes though.

>>126040916
those are boobs

>>126039875
Are you suggesting that big tobacco has made their product safer?

>>126030804
kej

>>126030586
Hey that is literally my vape.

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>>126040291
Yes, but they're not what people tend to think they are.
They're your thoughts, memories, and personalities that your brain manifests as "people" under mania.
Humans tend to anthropomorphize things to understand them better, and this includes our thoughts when we're confronted by them forcefully.

>>126040607
Democracy is trash. Most people are too stupid to have the ability to vote. The US was founded with this in mind, so originally, only born-in-the-USA men who owned property could vote. This kept irrational people without political sense(young people, women, minorities) from being able to put people into power.

>>126030804
First post bed post

>>126040336
Vapers bring that shit into stores and restaurants, subjecting a lot of people to their gross bubblegum smoke. They lack any sense of shame or self-awareness while smokers have to smoke outside, 20 feet from the door. Both are degenerate as fuck but right now vaping is more obnoxious by a mile.

>>126041236
Why wouldn't they? Dead customers are bad for business.

>>126040916
white trash degenerate

>>126030804

>>126040336
Because the biggest faggots are part of muh vaypenashun.

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>>126039875
>Putting something that processed into your body because you have an uncontrollable addiction and can't function as a human being without it.

Imagine being a man and proud of smoking these days...

nicotine is a neurotoxin. 1 drop of pure nicotine on the skin could kill a person.

>>126030804
10/10

>>126030804
Fuck you

>>126040336
>where did this meme even come from?
Cig smokers with BO. You know the ones? You stand in line at the store behind them? They smell like shit?

>>126030586
Are big clouds are meme or do they actually feel better than 50/50 VG/PG normal ohm etc?

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>>126041311
>Killing the goyim wasn't part of the plan

lung doctor man here

vaping is bad for you
even if it lacked chemicals or the chemicals involved were completely non-toxic, breathing in (heated) water vapor is still an irritant to your lungs and causes squamous cell differentiation which is not ideal and can fuck your shit up
that irritation also lowers the immune response of your lungs and leads bacteria to toughen up before they try to breach your now-weakened gates; it's a two-fer of shit you don't want

that said it's still a bazillion times better than cigarettes
so my advice is to use vaping as a means of quitting smoking entirely
don't start if you haven't
also vape culture is pretty fucking gay, bros

on the politics side of things: no shit, your republicans are in the pocket of (((big tobacco))), don't be retarded
what a surprise that they want to kill the healthier alternative that keeps you subservient and weak and puts more money in their pockets
it's the democrats' fault you got lung cancer obviously, vote for us

>>126030965

Big tobacco has almost no Jews these days
meanwhile, you can go ahead and guess who's behind all the anti smoking ads

>>126033660
I vape on and off. I like blowing rings or tornadoes sometimes. It's not addictive at all in my experience, maybe for others. If anything I get sick of the sickly flavoring or I simply get bored and stop, it really isn't as sinister as you are trying to paint it.

>>126039410
I disagree, believing that you can have such liberty without a degenerate society. And it all starts with cutting back on welfare. People who are forced to think for themselves, plan ahead, and strive to succeed are much less likely to make bad choices than those who expect the government to coddle them.

>>126039949
>At least you can look cool smoking a cigar or even a cigarette
the only reason you think it "looks cool" is because you've been condintioned to think that from decades of brainwashing. same reason why you think vaping looks dumb. hilarious how all you faghots talk about being "redpilled" yet it's so fucking obvious how deep marketing yuppies have their hooks dug into you. they could make sucking dick the new "cool" thing to do tomorrow and half of you would go along with it.

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>>126030586

That's the same box I have

>>126041534
The dose makes the poison.
200ug of nic is nothing.
2mg of nic is a good thinking dose for a newbie.
20mg of nic can put you in the ER.
200mg of nic will kill you.

Vaping is implicit whiteness.

>>126041308
I see this claimed a lot and yet never see it myself. I think it's mostly bullshit

>>126042017
> invented by chink
Lol

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>>126030586
>le republicans are so bad right gais??

>>126041811
You docs need to quit being faggots and get the FDA/DEA to let up on the regulations of modafinil.
It's better than nicotine as a nootropic without the nasty effects.

But OH NO! It's not PERFECTLY SAFE so we can't do that, can we?

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>>126041843
>Jews not wanting Americans to engage in unhealthy behavior that also drains their wallet

Sure thing Schlomo...

>>126041311
It still is probably more dangerous than vaping though because even if you remove some of the chemicals from tobacco, you'd change it from burning tobacco to essentially paper, which still has a lot of the cancer causing chemicals that are produced from paper combustion.
This includes the creation of PAHs.

>>126042047
Depends where you live I guess. Every subculture has its hot spots.

>>126041922
>Thinking that a person taking out their pain via poison consumption isn't cool
What are you a faggot

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>>126042122

Looks like an East Aryan to me. Especially wearing white man's fashion.

>>126042014
Of 18mg juice you'd have to take 50 puffs 4 seconds each in under a minute for 2 hours to overdose on it. You cant do it. The only way would be to cover yourself is super high strength nicotine patches from head to toe.

>>126040607
>doesn't know how to greentext
lurk moar you fucking newfag and never leave this board you will not survive outside it

>>126030804
>Vaping is degenerate.
some vapers are way too into it but how is it degenerate?

>>126041922
Being addicted to anything is pathetic.

Vapers are literally no better than the fat fucks who drink a gallon of Monster a day.

>>126030586
I recently started vaping, is their truth that its healthier.

I am a bit concerned because its been 2 months since I have had a smoke but I vape and my lungs dont feel any healthier,

Will it get better?

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I'm vaping absinth and it's very nice, tastes of dandelion and burdock- which is totally not gay.
Vaping is too cool for stool so the 'everything everybody else does is degenerate' crowd, who BTW strum their monkeys all day, have never kissed a girl and experiment with Hitler tashes, can suck it. And what THEY can suck tastes of salty cheese I'd expect, not dandelion & burdock.
SO Which would you rather suck?
C for Hitlers festering salty scrotum
V for super cool vapours of loveliness & nicotine

>>126041811
is there a time table for vaping to take effect on the lungs like are we talking months, years to lower the immune response

>>126042047
its true, vapers blow their cotton candyass smelling bullshit in everyone's face as if theres no problem

>>126042479
>Being addicted to anything is pathetic.
Do you even know what addiction is?

>>126042551
No. Nothing will gets your lungs healthier then just quitting. If you're gonna smoke, then smoke a fucking cig like a normal person or just quit

>>126042612
Move out of California then. Here in Florida they don't do that shit.

>>126042655
No one held anyone down and made them get addicted to tobacco. They chose to with the whole world shouting in their face that they would get hooked.

Willfully putting yourself in that position is always pathetic.

>>126042663
I cant stand smoking anymore, its as if I knocked my head and my sense of smell came back.

The smell of cigs makes me fucking sick.

>>126037778
But they are tobacco products unless you're buying 0mg nic juice and there is no way around it. Vapes would be embraced better if their users didn't act like faggots and do it in crowds or inside in public areas.

>>126041811
>breathing in (heated) water vapor
It's not water vapor. The fact you aren't actually aware of what's in the product you're claiming to have knowledge of the effects of makes me strongly question your claimed status as a "lung doctor."

>>126042432
>18mg juice

When you vape your body doesn't absorb 18 mg the particles are bigger than smoking

>>126042916
I didn't ask for an empty lecture.
I asked you if you knew what addiction is.

>>126042551
it's absolutely healthier
not as much as NOT smoking, but if you have trouble quitting gradually or cold turkey, vaping is a fine intermediate step
you should know that much of the damage being done to your body is nicotine's doing, so you won't see real results in health until you begin cutting back or eliminating the chemical entirely

that said, water / glycerine vapor is doing less to physically fuck your lungs than all the additives in conventional cigarettes

something i tell people at my job when i'm trying to help them quit is to add up all the cash they spend on cigarettes every week (or vape juice + machinery in your case) and extrapolate that over a month or a year
what could you do with all that extra cash? pay off some debts, buy a new TV, take an exotic location
find some motivation to quit in addition to just getting healthier; there's numerous ways to reward yourself through quitting and this can help fight the addiction-reward structure that nicotine operates on

>>126030586
hello this is anon with the republican vaping club here to say it's not degenerate if you don't tell people about it. That's all. Try snus from Sweden too, that is low carcinogen as well. Finally, accept cancer. We all get it, we all die.

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Good thread guys, thanks for the insight and spreading the good word... vape on.

>>126033649
Ignorant cuck detected.

No vaper has ever developed popcorn lung.
The chemical SUSPECTED to cause popcorn lung is also found in cigarette smoke, in concentrations x100 stronger than in eliquids. and no smoker has ever developed popcorn lung.

In fact the only people to develop popcorn lung were factory workers who were exposed to extremely fine particulate of diacetyl in the air they were breathing in at work.

But you read a facebook link about popcorn lung so you know what you're talking about.

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>>126030586
Do you have any evidence for this?

Far as I can tell its the democrats who are hyper anti smoking. States like New York, California, Massachusetts are the ones with 15 dollar packs. I have yet to hear one republican give a shit about vaping.

>>126043195
>What could you do with all that extra cash?

Buy more heroine I suppose.

Yeah I am switching to the non nicotine liquid next month. I will see how it works out.

>>126042269

>jews have no interest in putting an end to one of the biggest cash crops in America

Ok Mr. Goldberg

it's ok if you're trying to quit smoking, but if you vape no nicotine and you aren't addicted well... that's pretty fucking gay

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>>126041811

>Doctor
>thinks VG is water

>>126030586
i hate god damn vapers so much, tired of the fucking air smelling like unicorn semen

>>126043422
Commiefornian, thankfully it's not as high as fucking $15 a pack, but they just put another $2 tax on it, bringing the total around $7-9.

>>126043488
>heroin
Now, you guys wanna talk about some god-awful nasty useless shit....

At least smoking/vaping can get your mind's gears a grinding away. Opioids are pure trash.
The ultimate waste of time.

>>126043662
You can roll your own, everyone should be doing that they are way too expensive here.

>>126039410
People make better decisions when the faceless taxpayers are not held responsible for subsidizing mistakes of the individual. A government comes in and uses welfare to seed degeneracy, then you point to the degeneracy and claim we need stronger government to come out strong against this to preserve ourselves. No wonder your nation is as it is, never come here.

>>126042939
>But they are tobacco products unless you're buying 0mg nic juice

So nicotine gum and nicotine patches are tobacco products too?

>>126043195
>you should know that much of the damage being done to your body is nicotine's doing

Bullshit.

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>>126043662
>bringing the total around $7-9.

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Because it's unchristian.

If you hate niggers, jews, spics, arabs, faggots, commie scum as much as we do and you want to raid some tranny server once in a while, you should join the official Moon Central Discord! White people only. Introduce yourself in #introductions

https://discord.gg/rDSBTgq

1, 2, 3 ,4 I declare a race war!
Join us and lynch a nigger tonight!

14/88,
The Triple K Mafia

P.S Fuck Niggers

nicotine is awesome
examine.com/supplements/nicotine/

>>126041279
I actually agree. I said these things because it was an appropriate response to that specific objection. If I had to define the ideal political system, I would say it would be one in which only patriarchs above the age of 30 should vote. Patriarchs are the most capable people in a society in regards to what a society needs.

>>126041904
This is not expecting the government to coddle them, it's the contrary. You elect politicians to represent you and your beliefs. If this system works or not is another matter.

>>126043907
No you faggot. THOSE are "quit smoking medicines" because they're made by pharmaceutical companies. Huge difference, just ask anyone in government or lobbying.

>>126042655
Breath it in and breath it out
and pass it on it's almost out
We're so creative and so much more
We're high above but on the floor
It's not a habit
It's cool
I feel
alive
If you don't have it your on
the other side
I'm not an addict
(Maybe that's a lie)