Why has /pol/ got such a hard on for capitalism? This isn't

It's true. With capitalism you either get billionaires making more monopolies, buying cocaine and prostitutes, or they donate the majority of their money. Would you rather have the former, or force the latter?

Agree. The capitalist system is responsible for our displacement.

Capitalism is bad, but it's relatively better than communism.

Meritocracy (Heinlein's way) all the way

One is a market system and the other is Government Theory which includes Economic Theories. They're not two sides of the same coin.

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The only solution is islam. Islam means real social market economy. Wealth without exploitation.

>>124353000
>t. Masood bint Khataab bin Ali bin Wahidalrumulilhah

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>>124351362

>>124351362
Stop cross linking threads you cunt.

>>124353083
Just let it all burn, senpai

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>>124353000
>>124353000
>The only solution is islam.

That is a problem not a solution you aren't fooling any one Turk roach back you go

Yeah capitalism isn't perfect.

But at least under it we can agree with each other what something is worth instead of being told. We have choices. A common argument against this is "well with monopolies there are no choices". I reject that notion. I can choose to go without it and even attempt to create an alternative should I so choose. There's also no bigger incentive for creativity than to be paid for it. It's why the music industry tries so hard to protect their profits.

>>124351362
Dumb reddit ancaps

Ancap and (((libertarianism))) movements are going to be crushed between the rising boots of the Right and the Left.

Lead, follow or get out of the way. And the far right is making the charge right now

>>124353181
I wish I had the power to do that.

There's a reason Jesus through the money lenders out of the temple. Any society that values money above all else will inevitably die.

>>124351362
Capitalism is a term coined by Karl Marx. All it means is "economic freedom." People have the freedom to work, change jobs, earn more, start a business, fire people, hire people, all without big brother government getting in the way.

>>124353267
>and even attempt to create an alternative should I so choose

How do you attempt to create an alternative if the lack of capital prevents you because of inflated regulations and requirements by said monopolies?

>>124353267
Implying you can't have that under Fascism or natsoc.

If your against the economic polices of fascism and natsoc your literally a traitor since you can be capitalistic up to the point where it hurts the nation and people. Therefore you want to shit all over the nation all for greed like some kike.

>>124352731
Black-white thinking is Marxian at its core. You're creating a false dichotomy statist.

The problem I see with this argument is that you don't mention the current conditions which result in this inequality. It has to do with the monetary system and fractional reserve banking, and with unlimited government which is use by corporations via lobbying to enforce their monopolies. That is the main factor behind the current state of capitalism which anti-capitalists don't mention or look it. What would it look like with sound money, with limited govt unable to be abused by corporations? It would make a huge fucking difference. I say we try that out before ditching capitalism altogether

>>124353000
Either a filthy race-traitor again or a turkroach

>>124353256
>that pic
Nice feminist fiction. The strong blonde girl is kicking out the men. Toplel. In reality she'd be the first to spread her legs for them.

>>124351362

Capitalism is just two people exchanging their property you stupid goy.

>>124353000

Go fuck yourself Erdogan

>>124353485
>inflated regulations and requirements of said monopolies
So, the government? You're pointing out the evils of socialism and trying to blame it on capitalism.

>>124353332
Don't you know meme magic?

>>124351362
Why not just have national capitalism where there is a free market but international banks are barred from operating in your country and white people can live in peace, degenerates can starve, and kikes can cry?

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>>124353522
Look at the influence of smth simple as ending the gold standard

people just blame it on "capitalism" without looking at the complexities and how we are getting jewed. If capitalism was the problem, they wouldn't be conspiring and creating all these scams to create this wealth inequality. If it was inherent in capitalism itself, they would just have to sit on their porch and wait

>>124351362
The key problem with communism and capitalism today is the same problem that religion has had for centuries. Religion is good by itself, but as soon as it gains control over government power, it uses that power to crush the rights and best interests of those not in power. The same has happened with communism and capitalism.

The only way to fix capitalism would be for us to have separation between business and state the same way we had a separation between church and state.

>>124351362
/pol/ is and always has been a stasserist board

>>124353361
>Capitalism is a term coined by Karl Marx
Source?

>>124353485
That right there is socialism though letting the government decide what is and what isn't good business. I won't argue that there should be restrictions of where you can dump your chemical waste, but a good business is making their customers happy not actively trying to fuck them in the ass. When they start doing that it's when people think of ideas on how to improve that. Besides, small businesses get started with personal loans among friends all the time.

>>124353513
Nice appeal to emotion friend.

>>124353513
>capitalistic up to the point where it hurts the nation and people
You know nothing dude. Capitalism is just an economic system, it has no cultural implications( although high moral standards are needed for it be established successfully). When you say capitalism is inflated paper money made by central banks to get rid of long term growth and individual planning, then you are surely hurting your people. US for example don't have capitalism for at least a century. The same can be said of Europe.
There is no point where individual freedom hurts the people or its culture because if it were otherwise, it wouldn't be voluntary like capitalistic relationships.
I think this whole thread is a huge bait.

>>124351362
> muh totally not marxist polemic against capitalism
> proposes no solution to the (((problematic))) issue of usury

how would YOU suggest people with little capital gain the financing for their startup small business or the purchase of a house or car?

should they rent until they can buy?
renting is just as (((problematic))) as usury if not more so

appeal to a charity?
charities cant be relied on, and most are barely better than a televangelist scam

live in a refrigerator box under a bridge?

seriously, if i cant gain a return on my money i will NOT LEND IT, instead i will re-invest in my own business or, like (((Apple inc.))) stash it in an overseas bank and sit on it for no explicable reason

fractional reserve lending is the poison, lending money you dont have based on a small amount (usually less than 10% of the amount loaned) of other people's money you are simply keeping warm for them is what is destroying the world economy.

also, capitalism doesnt need banks, capitalism is based on the concept that you can own your shit, and sell it at whatever price you can get, and you can buy anything you want provided you are willing tho fork over the cash required.

capitalism existed long before banking, and "usury" is only derided by jews and muzzies (but only when lending to the in-group, anyone outside can be longdonged at your pleasure)

>>124354292
Go on argue back. You can be capitalistic up until the point or hurting the nation.

if your against this you are for the degeneration or society or globalism, as that's what your doing.

>>124354301
Capitalism definition

An economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

USA and Europe are capitalistic. The need for more economic growth and cheap workers is why Australia opened up to non whites and what corporations in Europe love to say about the migrants.

Yeah no we're deep in capitalism now and we're only going to go deeper unless the right can rise up. George soros can and has changed nations entire governments just by how much wealth he has

>>124353551
> german flag
> doesnt recognize the classical personification of Europa
> found the rapefugee shill
go back to eritrea mustafa, nobody cares what mudcritters think.

>>124354141
dont bother, capitalism was first sed by william thackery in a novel back in 1854.

pol/ shills usually just claim shit and refuse to back it up.

>>124354878
You forgot to mention just the most important factor of capitalism: the currency. Once upon a time it was gold, now it is worse than toilet paper because this don't lose value over time. Without a currency free from government control, you hardly have capitalism because the state has the power to run into deficit ad infinitum and bailout companies to not let the scheme fall over its own weight. How can you call this capitalism?

>>124354878
> faggot uses the jewgle definition drafted by crypto-marxists as a thinly veiled attack on the concept of markets and free enterprise
Definition of capitalism
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

~ https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/capitalism

how does my cock taste?

>>124355393
No it's paper backed by military and oil and before that it was gold because you can't carry lumps of gold around and before that it was bartering which is all capitalistic. Doesn't matter if I'm exchanging goats for horses it's still capitalistic

>>124355788
Definition of capitalism
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market


Yeah sure sounds like the United states and Europe to me. But please go ahead and tell me how we're all secretly living in communism because the state funds a few hospitals.

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>>124352731
neither.

If it's good for our people we support it wholeheartedly.
If it's bad for our people we crush it with an iron fist.

>>124356562
>This

How the hell haven't people worked it out. You can become rich and own factories and invest and sell you just can't fuck over the nation for profit like a Jew. What's so difficult if your against this it means you want people to be able to sell out your nation for cheap labor and degenerate shit for self gain

>>124353000
>cutting off your foreskin fixes the economy
smd famalam

>>124356348
It's paper backed my nothing and most of this money is entirely virtual and imposed to the population. You're just looking at the exchange event without knowing the implications of paper money. It messes up long term plans because you can't predict the price of the things. You're being dishonest for not considering this.

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Strasserite reporting in

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>>124351362
>above all else, /pol/ cares about morality and opposes moral degeneracy
>modern communism has embraced degeneracy
>therefore /pol/ opposes communism

Not difficult to understand. You'd find widespread support for any economic theory that preserved traditional morality, e.g. Strasserism. Only problem is, who the fuck has heard of Strasserism?

What do you replace it with?

>>124353000

Muslims hate commies R tard

surplus theft does not exist
you cannot be stolen from if you can say "I quit"

>>124351362
What is the alternative then? Centralized economical planning and interventionism? Because that worked really well didn't it Mao?

> Hurr durr inequality exists so I'd rather give up all my freedoms and be poor and famished instead

>>124351362
I agree.

The post-industrial capitalism is ironically marxist(and therefore jewish) in essence. It's all reduced to materialism and production, including humans. Exactly the same as in a openly marxist society

>>124358335
What is the alternative then? Centralized economical planning and interventionism? Because that worked really well didn't it Hitler?

Uh oh there goes my strawman

>>124353744
The existence of government doesn't imply in socialism.

It's just natural to assume that big corporations will try to manipulate the government to do their will.

>>124358335
>inequality exists

That isn't the main reason. Capitalism erodes culture and values and replaces them with degenerate self-obsession and consumerism. Love for your family and countrymen, identifying with your nation has been replaced with love for consumer electronics and identifying with brands.

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>>124351362
We need radical change. Hitler was right.

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>>124358611
It literally didn't work

>>124354035

>like the more than 50 percent of the intellectual lightweights on pol even knows what that means

>>124351362
That's why Fascism is sometimes called a "Third Position" ideology, since it renounces Capitalism and Communism

>>124358901
>being destroyed militarily by outside forces
>economic system failed

pick one

>>124358901
Why are you using the word "literally" there?

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>>124351362
You're confusing capitalism with corporatism.

The free market is superior to socialism. Right now we run under a majority socialist system (force taxes to subsidize everyone who's incompetent) not real capitalism or free market / open competition. Corporatism is what we have right now.

Capitalism can lead to monopolies but competition balances it out and will constantly shift over to the next best depending on the market. A smart and successful capitalist will remain in business even with tough competition. Corporatism is when there is no chance of competition to begin with because the power and influence of the brand is so entrenched with political or economic power that no one can compete, thus meaning that the free market is no longer free and for all intents nonexistent.

>>124356562

>Juan Peron
>K

>>124351362
>Capitalism is Usury. Its defining belief is ‘return on investment
t. lolbertarian that thinks corporatism is the same thing as capitalism
Hang yourself for having the nads to make a thread about economics when you know pissall about it
>>124352735
No it is not, monarchism is
>>124352935
>Capitalism is bad
It literally has built our civilization, it's far from bad

>>124358901
That tends to happen when the rest of the world and all the global banks declare war on you because you threaten the Jewish capitalists.

"Germany’s most unforgivable crime before the Second World War was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world’s trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny world finance its opportunity to profit." -Winston Churchill
Really makes me think

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>>124358901
Well with the whole world starting to become more Nationalist, maybe it'll work this time. If we don't kill the Jews shadow government we're all gonna end up slaves.

>>124351362
Are you retarded? The only way they've been able to achieve this usury so well is through a gradual undermining of capitalism itself. Why do you think the power of the federal government has grown so much, taxes have skyrocketed, and regulations have grown 100-fold in the last century? Banking is a disease and should be made illegal, yes, but their usury has gone FAR further than banking alone could ever get them.

>>124359244
>The free market is superior to socialism. Right now we run under a majority socialist system (force taxes to subsidize everyone who's incompetent) not real capitalism or free market / open competition. Corporatism is what we have right now.

define corporatism

also, do you know anything about social contract theory?

>>124358776
That is a moral problem not an economic one. With western religion being systematically destroyed by (((them))) such decadence and idolatry are inevitable. The same would happen in any society without god be it totalitarian or not

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>>124359260
>Yay Capitalism!

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>>124358839
Pic related, also nationalism.

>>124359244
No you daft cunt we are very capitalistic your retarded economic jew money worshiping shit got you here

Socalism defernition

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

The state does not own the means of production. NOT SOCIALISM WE LIVE IN A PRETTY LIBERTARIAN AND CAPITALISTIC WORLD RIGHT NOW

>>124359032
If your economic system is based on invading and pillaging/enslaving other countries what did you expect? Wasn't Lebensraum a thing in Nazi Germany?

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>>124358839
Also nationalism 2

>>124359271
Yeah, you can dodge questions but not forever. Fool yourself all you want if you think Germany did the right thing when they had a fully a state controlled economy. Some people are no better than an ant.

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>>124358839
Also nationalism 3

/pol/ is literally the most ridiculous board. You cant get through a single thread without da jewz being blamed for something (most of it actually justifiable) and yet when the most simple connection is made between big business and banking (run by wealthy jews) squeezing out middle class americans for everything that they're worth, lobbying the government to water down any attempts at reform of this corrupt system (through jewish lobbying groups and lawyers), and finally passing the cost onto taxpayers, /pol/ actually sides with the big corporations and says

>MUH FREE MARKET
>YOU'RE ENTITLED
>GOLDBERG THE BANKER EARNED HIS MONEY YOU PARASITE
>CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE ON 7$ AN HOUR? YOU DESERVE IT FOR BEING A RETARD
>MILTON FRIEDMAN, MURRAY ROTHBARD, AND AYN RAND WERE RIGHT (all kikes who wanted no regulations so their tribe could make even more money unfettered)

Do you really think a deregulated free market would stop the Jews and big businesses you dumbfucks? It's already been tried in the 1800s, the 1910s before the great depression, and the 80s-early 2000s. It does NOT work. Do you really think Jew CEOs deserve to make 20 million a year while the goyim in Idaho can't even afford to live and have to resort to shooting up heroin to cope?

Lol at you bluepilled cucks sticking up for the kike bankers and businessmen while claiming to be redpilled on the jew. There's a reason fascism is anti capitalist and the most successful societies used capitalism but with regulation to keep the big business and jews in check

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>>124358839
Also nationalism 4

>>124359653
Government = we the people

Government is the people.

In a capitalistic soceity even a mixed economy like almost all deco loped western countries you are free to have a pure socialistic workplace. But it never happens because it's not human nature that's why there's a need for authority gulags and dicatitors with socialism.

>>124359812
>implying corporatism is based on invading counties

moral ideology=/=economic system

>>124359978
What even is your question?
You said it failed then I replied it failed because the entire world declared war on them. Pretty valid response

>Some people are no better than an ant.
Your right but you should work on your engrish. That's why these people need to work for the good of the nation not to be free to be able to degenerate society and fall for commie propaganda.

Dumb mixed Brazilian

>>124360242
>It's human nature to form communism. Yeah and?
>It's human nature to throw away the government throw away any morals and fuck over the entirety of your race and culture because a greedy jew told you so. No

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>>124353000
Islam is shit tier. The Amish has everything one up on the sandniggers.

The only solution is Amish. Dumbfuck.

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>>124360157
And there you have it. Spot on.

>>124360483
typical capitalist

MUH CAPITALISM IS PERFECT SYSTEM EVERYBODY WHO DISAGREES IS A COMMUNIST

Just get the fuck out of here you retard

>>124360157
>Do you really think a deregulated free market would stop the Jews and big businesses you dumbfucks?

In comes the spam of un fact checked meaningless propaganda that's intended to scare me into believing in an ideology that will take all my freedom away in exchange for the promise of a better life!

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FREEDOM

>>124359469
I like you huemonkey. You're alright.

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A lot of people don't understand what a monopoly actually is what what the issues of it are.
Pretend it's the olden days again and a small townman has the best shoe shining service and puts all the competitors out of business than he has earned that right and the consumers themselves have spoken. If he has such good service is profits are good enough to buy out his competitors he is taking a financial risk but he has the freedom to buy and competitors have the freedom to sell if it makes financial sense to them. Through out history this hasn't even happened much without government intervention because people don't want to sell their businesses or take the risk of buying out competitors.
Now if a rich man owns a shoe shining service that is lousy but he wants to buy out all competition to corner the market anyhow because he is rich 1. It has to have a financially viable incentive which would entail having a damn good business model even making it worth the headache and risk of buying out all competitors and having to have costumers that actually used your service. 2. The freedom of any person having the opportunity at anytime to start a shoe shining business of their own with a goal of better quality service and not selling out. 3. A person shining their own shoes because they don't want to pay for bad quality.
The problem arrives when an entity arrives that forces others out of business or produces regulations only the rich man can uphold. Or an entity forcing people out of their homes so he can build a bigger parking lot or an entity forcing people to pay for the interstate roads that lead to his business would give him more of an advantage.

>>124351362
Sheep fucker, its defining belief is the free exchange of goods by mutual consent of at least two parties.

No coercion from either parties involved or an external party. Faggot.

>>124358667
Actually the essence of socialism is government intervention in economic matters.

many americans borderline worship capitalism and democracy. i wonder why (protip: it's because of the jews)

>>124360476
I stated that the problem of the current central banking system is the high inflation with paper money backed my nothing, you dodge saying that it is backed by "military and oil", which doesn't makes sense, implying any exchange can be considered capitalistic at the barter level ignoring the pointed out problem of inflation.
You are not being very logical in this discussion and ignoring what socialism and alike ideologies have done.

>>124361334
First of all I'm Australian not a kiwi you stupid amerifat.

Secondly that is not Capitalism, virtually every system in history has had in some way what you described as part of It's system with the exception of Communism. Capitalism is "an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state". That is exactly what It is, your bank, your media, your resources everything you need to have a society are controlled by private corporations and who are all of these private owners of these corporations? Jews.

>>124351362
You've left no alternative, really. It's either communism or capitalism. Socialism is just communism that hasn't gotten rid of capitalism yet.

>>124362195
Corporatism

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>>124362195
Hitler created a better system.

>>124362314
But isn't it still using money, ie capital
communism ideal wouldn't use cash

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>>124351362
> Sounds like confused and incoherent bullshit to me

>>124362468
>every system that uses money is capitalism

are you retarded?

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>>124352731
> Charity donations are often tax dodges and PR stunts

>>124355147
His first post suggest Islam as an economic solution.

>>124362475
>lacks the intellectual capacity to understand something
>criticizes it

>>124351362
Yeah, Jews love capitalism so much that they actively try to do everything in their power to get rid of it in the west.
Get the fuck out you double nigger. You're not fooling anyone.

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>>124362314
> He sure as fuck didn't had to start wars to keep going
> Which ended with him dead in a bunker

>>124362552
Then why is the ideal end goal of communism to get rid of state and capital, because its not capitalist, but acknowledges that you'd need it till worldwide communism

>>124362611
What he meant (if his not larping) is an economics system based on Islamic economics, which was a mixed between Communism and Free enterprise.

>>124361978
No the problem with banking is simply the power it has the same with unregulated capitalism. This Jew said this in 1815

"I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls the British money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply."

This man had the balls to say that in 1815, and his decedents still poke British royalty in the chest. Cause they know their the real rulers of the West. Un gold back currency was not the problem in 1815.

Natsoc and Fascism are a good alternative

>>124362722
>Jews totally destabilized and take over the west via capitalism

MUH CAPITALISM IS PERFECT JEWS ARE ALL COMMUNIST NOT CAPITALIST AT ALL

>>124362799
I already fucking know that, I'm not advocating for Communism so stop using It as an argument that you lost towards me.

>>124362776
He wanted to emulate the roman empire. The only way for economic growth is to conquer and loot.

>>124362989
>still defend private property and wage labor
>think you can just slap regulations on and it will fix the problem
It's still capitalism.

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>>124362722
The Rothschilds are Capitalists dude. They work with the Commies.

>>124351362
>Why has /pol/ got such a hard on for capitalism?
Because there are so many Americans here. It's a big problem.

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>>124354665
Agree. Plus I want to hear the free market advocates scream the loudest for the big to fall when they fail. Hell or high water. True free market lets the greedy banks, who leveraged themselves into insolvency looking for fictional returns, fall like fucking dominoes.

The bailouts and stimulus were Corporate Socialism on the backs of the very people who are expected to play the long game by starting small and carefully growing their little nugget. Meanwhile inflation makes their savings worth less and less, and the people who already have money get to borrow lots more of it, for next to nothing, at the precise time it's worth the most: on its way into circulation. For this reason alone, I believe a Universal Basic Income (fiscal stimulation inserted at the bottom of the pyramid, not the top), is superior to Corporate Socialism. Bottom-up. is better than more of this top-down. At least you know they'll spend it right away and not sit on it or use it for their eighth yacht.

Trickle down is telling people it's raining while you're pissing on their heads

Anyway, that's before we get into the collusion between Marxist interests and the International Banking scam. Pic related.

>>124362776
>He sure as fuck didn't had to start wars to keep going
Well... he didn't. You're just parroting what you heard from some other simpleton.

>>124351362
tl;dr

>>124353985
This isn't a bad idea.

>>124360476
You are confusing posters there mate.
Serious question though, aren't you satisfied with your current life in Australia? Do you dislike your freedoms and all the great things brought to you by the big evil capitalism? Trying to assume direct control of the economy is nothing but a megalomaniac delusion:

> If I was the one in charge everything would turn out to be just fine!

> If it weren't for you meddling conspirators my infallible plan would would most definitely succeed!

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>>124363220
The problem's Jews. They need to go bud. They are the internationalists and bankers that are squeezing our nations dry.

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>>124353000

>Wealth without exploitation.
>The entire religion is built around absolute submission to an higher force while the fruity faggot whose might make law pretend to be sent by Allah to rule the world

Islam is literal slavery with a spiritual undertone, to claim it isn't exploitation is just a blatant lie. In fact, the act of exploiting someone else is even encouraged as it is a proof of submission from your victim.

I hope you posted this ironically, german

>>124362971
Wrong. This power was limited by the governemnt revenue. They could change how much an pound would be worth in gold but this is already manipulation enforced by the state.
You could note that the dollar lost 98% of its original value because of central banking. Thus the problem is not capitalism, but a governemnt run central bank. Any disagreements?

>>124362776
He didn't start wars you ignorant homosexual.
Read a book nigger, something not written by a lying kike.

>>124362722
They are also shilling their agenda by calling corporatism ""capitalism"" on their own media. Looking at this thread their kike anti-capitalist propaganda seems to work pretty well.

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>muh fascism is totally not capitalism gais
>just regulate it, gais
>muh usury gais
>still capitalism, but with permanent 0% interest rate
Why are fascists such economic illiterates?

>>124363955
>Islam is literal slavery with a spiritual undertone
Correct, Islam means "submission", and that's why the elites like it so much. It's the mental template they have in mind for their conception of the future underclass.

They know that if they keep people dumb like their plans clearly require, they need to be ruled by an ideology that isn't shy on brutality.

>>124362559
20M/7B = 0.00286%

Probably negros refusing help b/c racism and voodeedoo desu Get some race in those numbers plox like you libshits do everything else.

>>124364215
Maintaining free enterprise whilst maintaining the direction of the economy and control of the key assets of the state such as banks. Something Capitalism totally ignores and is the reason Jews have gained so power.

Not everything that allows private ownership is Capitalist.

>>124364668
Private ownership IS capitalism.

>>124359384
>social contract theory?
canceled out by the original social contract
>dont steal

>>124353000
>flag
Seems about right

>>124359653
>taxes
>not ownership of the means of production
try not paying and see how capitalist your society is!

>>124364831
lmao so every form of economic system in history other then Communism was a Capitalist system?

News flash leaf Private Ownership has existed since the beginning of time.

>>124360157
>>124360509
the majority of states, failed
the nazis are now under the control of angela merkel
wew statists, try to learn a lesson from hitlers mistakes

>>124351362
What if we remove the jews? How would you start this thread then?

>>124364658
>>124362559
Capitalism is an economic system that makes production as effective as possible through competition and vonlutary transactions, shrinking marginal utility of individuals who are able to invest and reduce scarcity further. It's simply an idea that cannot possible kill anyone, in fact is responsible for the almost all the population growth we had. This picture is entirely bullshit.

>>124363220
>private property and wage labor
>bad
this isthe problem with believing surplus theft exists

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>>124365066
Now you're getting it. The main difference between modern capitalism and primitive capitalism is the Enclosure of Commons, which forces people to participate.

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>>124358611
actually it worked so well that jews declared economic war on Germany and Britain declared war on Germany for it.

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>>124365156
Yeah cuz our Capitalist piece of shit nation is easy for the Jews to manipulate.

>>124351362


Capitalism actually is "Free Market ( cooperation ) of free people.

It's just that marxist-leninist propaganda have totally flipped the meaning of the word.

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>>124358611

>>124365591
>GDP
It's a meme

>>124365421
>literally claiming every economics system in history was capitalist. Do you realize how retarded you sound?

"an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state."

You think actually think Feudalism was Capitalist? Also you sound like Marx with your primitive stage of MUH CAPITALISM

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>What can replace capitalism?
http://ia600307.us.archive.org/33/items/RodneyMartin-TheEconomicPlanOfTheNsdap/nsdap_1932_economic_program.pdf

Mix of Socialism (benefiting YOUR people) mixed with Free Market.
The Jew fears this liberation.

>>124363869
No my town is full of Chinese and it's impossible for me to buy a house because house prices for shitty apartments are in the millions. I can blame capitalism for importing the chinks for cheap labor and for fucking up the housing market to benefit boomers and Jews.

I am not satisfied with politician's being paid off by the biggest companies, private health insurance fucking over people and making public the superior option and importing indians and Chinese for cheap labout because whites get paid too much

>If your don't love what we have now your a commie. No I just realize fascist corporatism is superior to Jew control. Also you forget in Fascism there is actually more practical freedom then democratic capitalist nations have in theoretical freedom.

>>124365017
taxes are not ownership of the means of production you retard

come back when MacDonald's is owned by the government and not a private individual

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>>124365772
>strawman

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>>124365899
Praise Kek

>>124364152
No he just kept conquering neighboring territories despite repeated warnings that it would lead to war if it didn't stop. He called one bluff after another after another until he finally crossed a red line that mattered and yet "how was he supposed to know lol".

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>>124352935
Communism is meritocracy for your big fat information

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>>124365940
Nazi germany's economy was based on kikery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mefo_bills

>>124366374
Well, we know for sure that he who does not eat can't work, so there's that.

>>124366374
Lenin compromised on the ideology of communism so much you can't call him a true communist.

>unless you're happy with what he's done and it's super dooper convenient.

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>>124366397
>right wing control over the economy keeping kikes and corruption out is kike economy
>leaf talking about economy's

>>124366098
FUCK OFF UNIVERSITY STUDENT

>>124366834
Hi, I'm Justin Trudeau and he's Justin Trudeau and every Canadian on this board is a Justin Trudeau liberal and your argument is not a straw man and a perfect rebuttal to my fellow Justin Trudeau liberal's criticism of your beliefs.

>>124365421
Let me debunk this NAO
1. No, for investor to earn money they must invest, thus something is being produced and someone is buying it, thus not problem here. Poor people also accumulate wealth through savings but this is harder with inflation.
2. This point is hard. We have state enforced patents, so innovation happens, but competition is limited. This prevents further increase in productivity because only companies who owns the patents can produce. As innovation takes places, obviously prices shrink and customers have more purchase power, as long as they have a job and inflation isn't too high.
What prevents most people from getting a job are minimum wage laws for example. People can get poorer if they don't have stable jobs, but this is state's fault. The only way to raise wages is when the companies compete for workers. But this only happens in stable economies with low unemployment.
3. I think this is the only reasonable point in this. If the consumption is inflated artificially via credit, products which have no real demand will be produced and this depletes de economy of resources for things it would rather invest in freer conditions. The earth destruction is an arguable point.
4. Yes this system isn't good.
But this is called crony capitalism. It isn't real capitalism because the state wants to drive the economy. This biggest problem of this pic is calling this capitalism.

>>124362776
When your nation is living in prosperity,and with the perfect system Humanity will ever witness meanwhile there are millions of jobless around the world but then suddenly a few set of people realize the glitch and they actually went on a fucking war with not Hitler but with the idea itself.

It's like you are in a nepotistic Indian IT company where everyone in your circle is Jewing each other to get to the top meanwhile an autistic faggot discovers an algorithm which if presented to the boss will make him skip like 6-7 steps of the pyramid,the department discovers it and they want to shut you down,so they gather themselves in the basement of office to beat the shit out of you,but being a alpha you start beating the shit out of everyone,now you stop as a gesture of goodwill,but one faggot just escapes the situation and call's other department allies as well and then you lose.

To the second comer,please don't spare anyone this time.

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>>124367236
>What prevents most people from getting a job are minimum wage laws for example.

>>124367275
based poo
You have the blood of Aryans flowing through you

>>124351362
Because people don't have anything against Usury as long as it's done by non-Jews. The whole "kulak were just hardworking" narrative burger tried to feed me in the thread about Holodomor proves it.

They don't mind Jewing itself, as long as people Jewing them have the same nationality/skin color.

>>124365912
Not to mention the Chinese who are buying your real estate as a shelter from their own corrupt government, who could just take iot from them at any time, made their money from slave labour - something you are not permitted to do, so you can't compete with them - in a market that is FIFTY TIMES the population of your country.

Your politicians not protecting you from that - not representing you - because they like the inflow is corruption, plain and simple.

What really stings is how they've trained everyone to castigate you for noticing it at all, and taught them to call you a racist. THAT'S Cultural Marxism as it intersects with Economic Marxism. That's the real kick in the teeth. Both forms of Marxism are designed to keep the tippity-top protected.

>>124367549
I don't believe in any invisible hand. If you can discuss like you aren't a retard, please, destroy any of my arguments.

>>124352731

>Would you rather have the former, or force the latter?

Neither.
Former, over time, corrodes your country and results in the financial crisis, for which, OF COURSE, wealthy faggots don't pay shit - middle class does, maybe, with a liitle help of poorer people.

As for the latter, charity by itself is degenerate and disgusting. Imagine circus of freaks with more virtue signalling and tax evasion.

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>>124365421
>>124367236

>>124367549
The first sentence of Marx, which happens to also be the fundament of his theory, has been debunked already. Labor doesn´t give value to things, it´s the others perception who gives value to the object. Fucking commies.

>>124356562
This is a simple concept, but good luck forcing it without either be called "natsee" or commie.

>>124368012
The other site is written in arab lol

>>124351362
How do you explain the cancer that is/was Bolshevism/Communism?

>>124360157
People believe that one day, by the magic of "hard work", they will become actual billionaires. So they will defend the system.

Delusional faggots.

>>124367760
Well, you understand that patent laws prevents productivity. You just don't understand that intellectual property is Enclosure of Commons 2.0 and is necessary for capitalism to work at all.

>spend money on R&D hoping to make a profit
>another company takes your results and walks away with all the profits
>nobody spends money on R&D anymore

>>124362143
First of all to fucking admit you're part of the people who's greatest inventions are a bent stick and yeast flavored paste proves you're a retard.

Second of all you are incorrect.

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>>124351362
>Why has /pol/ got such a hard on for capitalism?
Because it works?

Why are you such a cuck for central banks?

>>124368568
Stop redditposting, pls. Very few says that. We all fucking know how cancerous the system is.

>>124368763
Whose

Fucking autocorrect.

Hey, dumb fuck, the only free market is the black market.

The black market is not responsible for the world's woes. You're thinking of communism and/or corporatism/globalism.

Go spread your anti-cap myths elsewhere, you (((C-ucked U-gly N-eutered T-ransvestite)))

>>124351362
average street supporter of capitalism doesn't understand how insanely productive we are since industrialization. like a few hundred people can make all the ice cream for a country of millions. so unless people want to pay other people to serve them ice cream, that's pretty much it for the ice cream industry, short of the general truckers and grocery store workers at the supply points.
>make another brand of ice cream to compete
ok, maybe there's room in the market for one more. massive start up costs. you'll probably end up being bought by one of the big companies and added as another brand in their portfolio.
>invent a new way to serve ice cream to people!
This is what's good about capitalism? It forces us to do this shit just to get by?

>>124351362
JEWS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj70rtP3lUQ

>>124352731
Then the middle path is accepting regulation of markets and goods. We should turn the attention economy against the corporations and use identity politics and shame culture to destroy them with huge meme campaigns. Then start regulating corporations, and pushing for a new amendment that makes advertising a form of psychological abuse, gives you protections from psychological abuse and advocates for a rigid dialectic in politics. Stop the media from defining the narrative. Punish them first, we will start with the newspapers.

>>124368763
>your race is not important, all that matters is your nationality

MUH CIVIC NATIONALISM

>You are incorrect

Nice job disproving it and proving suppliant evidence for it like I did.

Why did you even bother replying?

>capitalism doesn't work

still doesn't justify the monopolization of violence by the state. this just seems like a communist propaganda thread.

what system can you even say besides voluntary contributionism that doesn't use a monetary systems that communism and capitalism have, yet still has the benefits of racial purity and military protection?

i mean even at first you'd have to print your own money to compete with surrounding towns but they'd become your protectorate after awhile and then you could dissolve the need for money. virtue, nobility, class, and social order would become the money.

>>124368787
>immigration levels: high
>white fertility rate: below replacement

A comfortable extinction is still an extinction.

>>124368672
If I have an idea and I claim the ownership of if, and I prevent people from using the technology, even if they came up with the idea by themselves, I'm helping no one. Ideas can't be stolen because if I have an idea create by you, you don't lose your idea.
The inventor has the advantage of the first mover and if he don't have money to create a big business, he still has all the knowledge to get his product to work. Thus, if someone try to exploit his idea without benefiting the inventor, he has the inventor himself as competition willing to promote his idea and to work for anyone interested.

Intelectual property prevents competition. Companies may invest a lot of money in R&D, but that's normal. They will have the product of their effort readily avaiable will the competitor will glance and hurry up to catch up. Instead, today companies lose money suing each other and little companies fear large companies that might lurk into their products and invite to talk about who had the idea first and why they should pay them for having the "ownership" of the idea. These large companies have thousands of patents, which grants them a virtual monopoly(again, caused by the state).
It is completely anti-capitalist. We wouldn't have gone away from primitive men if they claimed the ownership of ideas.

>>124369898
MUH CAPITALISM IS PERFECT SYSTEM EVERYTHING THAT ISN'T CAPITALISM IS COMMUNISM

Just shut the fuck up you retard and have abit of critical thought instead of just contunie to be brainwashed by the Jew capitalism. If you had half a brain you'd realize that the reason we hate Communism was never is economics system (as shit as it was) but It's moral, social and spiritual values.

>>124369898
>doesn't use a monetary systems that communism [...] have
>communism has monetary systems

You have absolutely no idea of what communism is
Read a book

>a lolbertarian has no idea of economics
figures

>>124369219
Your communist utopia is already here, the only goods capitalism has not been able to produce at near zero cost are food and housing. You just need to figure out how to feed and house everyone as cheaply as we can produce other goods for them. That's all that is left to invent. Everything else we can produce cheaply and in abundance with little labor. We are not going backwards in time so everyone can work at fuckin fast food places, retail, and manufacturing. That ship sailed and there is no going back. Everything else you need, materially, is here in abundance. What you don't have is jurisdiction, or ownership. Use the existing abundance to figure out housing and food. The current system is two steps away from a real utopia, a breakaway civilization. Stop trying to tear it down and try to figure those two things out. Anything else is a waste. Right now you can access all information and knowledge in nearly every language from thousands of colleges and jniversities around te planet. There is no excuse fof failure. None.

The sad truth is that even a broken, failing, corrupt capitalist system produces enough wealth and abundsnce for everyone. In the usa, the worlds first and only liberty state, even a homeless citizen with no leverage is more privileged and educated than perhaps billions of foreigners from the varied wastes. Capitalism has met and exceded every demand ... Except food and housing. Plenty of room for improvement right there. It is here only we accept criticism and need new systems.

>>124370648
>moral, social and spiritual values
Of subjugation and obedience? Of state sponsored education? Of hunger? Of parasitism? Of central planning? Of arbitrary decisions? Of non-signed social contract? Of slavery? Of hyperinflation?

>>124351362
OP, just because debt can act as a means of exchange does not mean that it’s capital.

> Fiat is a promissory note.
> A promise to perform is more akin to a (((contract))) that compels the performance of GOY labor.
> The ONLY real capital in that scenario is man’s own dominion over his body, mind, time, freewill and labor.
> To exchange something real for a promissory note backed by more debt, is a modern machination of slavery, NOT capitalism.

Again, the only free market, is the black market.

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>>124370648
>MUH CAPITALISM IS PERFECT SYSTEM

i didn't say that. its an extremely flawed system man, but what your advocating is violence against innocence. communism and satanism have the same high holiday on may 1st. it was created as a counterweight by wipe out europeans in the 20th century.

i have no problem with communism if everyone is there voluntarily. that's fucking amazing, i'd be proud and look up to a system like that. but when you starve millions of farmers that's not a good system. moral relativism is not justifiable under any circumstance. nature has a set of fixed, immutable, binding laws that guide moral behavior by beings with the neocortex and blood in their veins to understand it.

>>124370386
>The inventor has the advantage of the first mover
They don't, actually. Business isn't chess. There IS, however, a second-mover advantage. That's how Apple made its dosh without inventing anything.

>>124351362
OP, just because debt can act as a means of exchange does not mean that it’s capital.

> Fiat is a promissory note.
> A promise to perform is more akin to a (((contract))) that compels the performance of GOY labor.
> The ONLY real capital in that scenario is man’s own dominion over his body, mind, time, freewill and labor.
> To exchange something real for a promissory note backed by more debt, is modern machination of slavery, NOT capitalism.

Again, the only free market, is the black market.

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>>124370652

>>124371285
Are you fucking retarded. I've done nothing but say how Communism and Capitalism are both evil systems you moron, never once did i advocate for either you idiotic fundamentalist.

>>124371190
>economics system (as shit as it was)

Do you even read monkey
But I'm still correct, racial intermixing, feminism and all these Marxist ideology and It's child political correctness is the reason we hated Communism.

>>124371566
And you can blame capitalism for WW2. You can blame capitalism for the massive famines in british controlled India. You can blame capitalism for the potato famine.

Just see how well the attempts at implementing capitalism in Africa turned out...

But go ahead, use the "MUH NOT REAL CAPITALISM"

>>124371190
>Of subjugation and obedience?
You mean like most of human history
Like subjecting to your boss out of fear of getting fired
>state sponsored education?
Yeah I sure love either not getting educated or only getting educated if your attend some christian monastery or your rich
> Of hunger? Of parasitism?
Communism does that yes
>Of central planning?
Nothing wrong with that
>Of arbitrary decisions
Not a point
>non-signed social contract
muh ebil state?
>Of slavery?
Like debt slavery, or slavery to watch your race and culture go down the drain
>Of hyperinflation?
Yes communism tends to do this when it fails, lets not forget capitalistic countries also do this. ie weinmar republic Germany

>>124371566
>says Communism and Capitalism are both Jewish plots and evil
>accuses you of being a Communist

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>>124351362
eat a dick, commie scum

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Ojbi6lXQI

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)

>https://youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

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>>124372006

>>124351362
Socialism is good. Communism is shit. Capitalism is shit.

>>124372035
>says Communism and Capitalism are both evil Jewish plots
>accuses you of being a Communist

Also Cultural Marxism is the morality basis of Capitalism currently.

>>124371882

You can also blame capitalism for the device you used to make your shitposts.

>>124372035
I think you misread

Unregulated capitalism is just as bad as communism it will destroy your nation and race just like communism does.

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>>124351362
The (((capitalists))) and (((communists))) joined forces during WW2 so you are right. Two sides of the jewish antiwhite coin

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>>124359260
>It literally has built our civilization, it's far from bad
People built our civilization, not (((capitalism))) which is leading to it's decline.

>>124351362
Capitalism is the idea that someone doesnt have to give you money unless they want to.

>>124372362
People are leading to its decline, not capitalism which is what built it.

>>124372362
and who exactly is starving in vicinity of those bread rolls? americans?

>>124372604
innocent Venezuelans, you shitlord

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>>124372362
Meanwhile, in reality.

>>124372159
Ahhh a nufag I see

There can only be Communism and Capitalism in your world view

But do not worry, I will not ruin your fantasy

Back to r_thedonald with you, where civic nationalism thrives a

Where you may continue you living in blissful fantasy

>>124372362
asshole it cost to much to feel the poor u running a business and its closing time and you are known for your fresh bread will you take time off after a 12 hr working day to go feed poor people

>>124373099
R A R E D U B S
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>>124373099
some companies dump their bread rolls in clean trash cans at the end of the day, homeless people often take them

>>124368026
>Fucking commies
says the fucking taco whose country was turned into the ultimate shithole thanks to globalism. KYS juan

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>>124373237

>>124371988
Sorry, I fail to see the difference between Socialism and NatSoc. You change the ebil burgeoisie for the ebil jews. Tha remaining the exactly the same.

>>124372270
How? Hong Kong is fine.

>>124354665
t. kike

>>124373609
Are you bloody retarded?
I never advocated for Communism you fucking moron. What is it with Capitalism who think that everybody who Isn't one is a commie.

THERE IS A THIRD OPTION YOU BRAINWASHED FUCKWIT

>>124359260
>he thinks there is a difference between corporatism and capitalism

Faggot name a capitalist country ever that wasn't corporate run

>>124373761
> I fail to see the difference between Socialism and NatSoc
Marxist socialism is anti-property. Marxism steals from people.
In Natsoc, they are not anti-property.

>>124351362
Socialism is for lazy niggers

>>124371456
I don't know much about Apple, but in this case, didn't they just monetize linux? And the mouse?

oh and just to tell all you Natsocs that you are faggots, Hitler literally engaged in USURY, google MEFO BILLS.

The only way to escape capitalism (liberalism) is communism.

Capitalism would be an utopia without the Jew and ((central banks))

>>124374049
you can only be one or the other, the third position is a lie.

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>>124373099
Now you know how the elites feel about you. Nobodies perfect but if you're not even willing to help your own people, don't bitch when everything becomes corrupt. Typical capitalist.

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>>124372220

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>capitalism doesn't work

KYS commies

>>124374140
But the economy controlled by the state. This means the state has the power to take seize property. Thus, it can be argued that NatSoc steals from people.

>>124373761
If you fail to see the differences between the Nazis who purged socialists from one another your retarded and either need to actually research or else your just giving further proof of the retardation of Brazilians and libertarians.

>unregulated capitalism is fine
muh Hong Kong
The housing market, the drug trade, the sex trade, slavery trade, child porn trade the reliance of cheap foreign workers, the destruction of the environment the destruction of culture the decline of white birth rates and the jew media pumping out race mixing propaganda movies,music,art is all fine?

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>>124374049

>>124374085
thinking corporatism means the corporations are in control of the economy

Corporatism means that the Government controls the direction of the economy, not some private investors like George Soros

>>124374487
>has the power to
that doesn't mean they actually DO IT from everyone, like in communism.

>>124374161
iPhone is based on the Blackberry
iPad is based on Tablet PC
There's an entire history of digital music players before iPods were a thing

>>124374487
Most retarded thing I've read all day

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>>124374487
He stole from the Rothschilds haha. His people love him dude, quit acting like he was thief.

>>124374487
They seize property when It is damaging to the state. I don't really give a fuck what you wanna call it. If it damages the state It should be dissolved.

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>>124374383
if you dont adopt you are a fucking idiot why are you going out of your way to help people that are no benefit to you billions of humans has suffered throughout history and zillions more will we are all human we feel empathy but putting emotions before your own interest is just plan stupid

>>124351362
Why does nu-/pol/ have such a hardon for National-(((Socialism)))

>>124374383

>if you dont adopt
that form of thinking

>>124374345
>Corporatism

Also are you saying a system such as Feudalism never existed or that It was Capitalist or Communist?

>>124374629
Not worth talking to I see

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>>124375003
You sound like a nigger.

>>124375016
the only nu-/pol/ is you

>>124374407
tf man

>>124375003
Rand was born Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum (Russian: Aли́ca Зинoвьeвнa Poзeнбayм) on February 2, 1905, to a Russian Jewish bourgeois

Oy vey nationalism is bad. Don't follow Jesus advice be Jewish like me

>>124374433
>MUH CAPITALISM IS PERFECT EVERYBODY WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME IS A COMMIE

It's not capitalism. It's the fed.

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>>124375234
you fucking idiot nationalist are fighting a losing battle

>>124375016
Ahhahaahaha your joking right
pol was NatSoc before it even existed
new was literally the SS

>>124374433
t. jew

>>124371456
>>124374161
>>124374769
there is invention and genius in packaging and marketing

>>124374551
Buddy, you need to put into categories the things that have only an economic extend from the things that are cultural and moral problems. In an economic view, NatSoc and vanilla Socialism are very similar. This really tries hard to replace culture and that tries to get some elements of it and create the mith of an ideal people or an ideal ruler. These are cultural issues.
US was a culturally based capitalist country, for example. Hong Kong is almost the same, but in Asia of course.


>>124374684
They can. That's still uncertainty about the future which might worry investors.

>>124374890
>>124374929
>>124374835
Okay, you hate the jews, but what makes a central planned state such an ideal the solution? It wouldn't be the best economic system. You can still be a homogenous nation without jews and muslim running a market economy. This would be the best in my view. What you thing?

This reads like 15 year old me saw a cool youtube and decided I was going to adopt the new "capitalism is whack" persona for a year or so until I got bored with it. If Alexander the great invested only 1/8th of his fortune he'd have over a trillion googol dollars today! Wow!

>>124375016
there's always edgy teens in right-wing movements, and Nazis are always the loudest most obnoxious retards so they poison everything they touch.

/pol/ is really a Christian Libertarian board with a touch of iconoclasm

>>124375648
*THINK

>>124375648
>They can.
I didn't say they couldn't I said they didn't take shit from EVERYONE, like the communists did.

>>124367236
>Real Capitalism hasn't been tried
You sound like commies

>>124351362
Communism is the exploitation of man, by man. Capitalism is the reverse.

>>124375145
>posting spencer the commie

gtfo back to TRS useful idiot.

>>124375485
oy vey nationalism is bad
lets all be greedy kike libertarians. I mean what could go wrong apart from the total destruction of the White race and it's culture

>>124375764
Not even the communists did it. You can't have a price system in socialism. It is impossible to archieve communism. I don't know how much the nazis and the socialists took in taxes, but it might be almost the same quota.

>>124375901
Anarcho-capitalism is the ideal. It may be possible in reality, but I consider early US, most of Switzerland history and Hong Kong real capitalism.

>>124362559
>curable disease
In communism those diseases
arent curable

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>>124376171
ya cause culture should be stagnant

>>124375648
>In an economic view, NatSoc and vanilla Socialism are very similar.

Second dumbest thing I've read all day

One has private enterprise rich people factory owners,private property,nationalistic outlook and still runs a capitalistic method.

The other has no private enterprise no rich people no factory owners no private property no nationalistic stuff and actually runs socialism

Only poor people hate capitalism

>>124376504
I agree lets just mix it all into one big bag and throw it against a brick wall a few hundred times

we can be all be brown,Jewish,Asian mixed people with no individual culture living in eternal fear of the big bad goberment

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>>124357856
Hi Bruder. /bant/ has your back.

Capitalism must be globalist. What, don't you support free trade? Let those borders drop, that's cheap labour you're restricting. Not what the free market would want...

>>124353985
Probably best on thread.

>>124375651
>mocking something you can't understand

Theres a reason everybody else here is actually responding to it with logical counter arguments

>>124357856
>Strasserite reporting in

PURGE

>>124376952
statist reeeeee, shut up and suck more corporate cock, you should be thankful for Chinese investment and more cheap workers for your country

>>124376095
>actually saying capitalism isn't exploitation

>>124359293
The nazi empire lasted a miserable 12 years. They were losers and should be treated as such,

>>124376538
Very similar when comparing the state power. Getúlio Vargas, our fascist leader, had created state companies that are running still running today. He also created our fascist labor laws that prevent this country development. If you think there was no private property in URSS, you are wrong, if this were the case, all Russians would be dead. It is impossible for the state to run the entire economy.

You also didn't answer my previous statement, so:
>Okay, you hate the jews, but what makes a central planned state such an ideal the solution? It wouldn't be the best economic system. You can still be a homogenous nation without jews and muslim running a market economy. This would be the best in my view. What you thing?

>>124377236
back to r_thedonald you go

>>124377128
Just saying, there's nothing more hilarious than a nationalist capitalist. Can't have a state perverting the markets, which means borders will fall as they are unnecessary impediments to free trade. Private borders exist, don't strawman me on that, but national borders can't exist without a state or centralized authority.
Not to mention the incentives for degeneracy to run rampant. It's the epitome of "it's my body, dad" nonsense. They opt to wait while the undesirables weed themselves out naturally instead of just physically removing them.

>>124373609
>le "communism is the only alternative to capitalism" maymay

>>124376171
I'll be satisfied with whatever culture brings the white birthrate to replacement.

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>>124377821
Then capitalism is the solution.
Look at how the english population grew during Industrial Revolution. But it needs to be real capitalism, the this country is the birth place of Keynes, the evil of humanity.

>>124377310
By your logic of "state power" equaling socialism you can just go ahead and call African dictator kings socialists as well as Medieval kings. If you can't differentiate between the Nazis and people they purged your either brainwashed or retarded

>Okay, you hate the jews, but what makes a central planned state such an ideal the solution? It wouldn't be the best economic system. You can still be a homogenous nation without jews and muslim running a market economy. This would be the best in my view. What you thing?

You can be capitalistic until it hurts the nation, anything else goes. A free society will open up to degeneracy and will find a way to screw over the nation for personal gain, the state can simply guide the resources and maintain the rest of things needed for a stable,strong society.

free market brings in drugs,porn,slavery,child porn and the selling of country assets off to other countries for short gained profit for one man not for the community

>>124377821
It's not just culture people need a stable country good women and well paying jobs and security something which fascism does better then capitalism importing non whites to bring up your birth rate

>>124378083
The English population grew because of industrial technology and better food management nothing to do with capitalism.

It's like you saying birds fly because they have beaks and not because of wings. Nothing attributes the industrial revolution to a free capitalistic market

>>124378449
>industrial technology and better food management
which was caused by capitalism

dumbshit

>>124369504
>protections from psychological abuse

That would be a country-wide safezone

>>124378625
proofs

I suppose the population boom in Ancient Egypt was due to a free market and less pharaoh restrictions on drugs and not better farming and a better more secure military

>>124358152

Retard alert!

>>124378107
Certainly, with so many leisure options, we are doomed to be addicted to opium like the chinese right?
You understand that the christian morality is long gone from the courts? There's simply no solution by the state way. You wanna a culturaly aware moral population? Libertarianism has a built-in morality that bounds perfectly with christianity. But you can't simply force everyone to go to the church. It isn't needed. Conservative/christians breed more than liberal and they retain great part of their children in religion. You only need to get rid of the state enforced education. This is something that could happen in 2-3 generations. It isn't a simple problem and if you do it by the german way, well, look at how they are now.

>>124378847
One of the main reasons England grew so much was enclosure. Google it, faggot.

>>124351362
This is where logic comes to die. Don't bother.

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>>124376118
Commies aren't Nationalists you stupid fucking shill.

>>124379108
>There's simply no solution by the state way.
So what are Nazi's they seem like a pretty conservative bunch.
But of course I'm wrong the state must be wrong i mean people were having gay orgies in Germany pre Hitler but he didn't effect anything at all

>Your way
Get rid of all state education just privatize fucking everything

>My way
Just teach the classes the right way and make sure the syllabuses are right wing

You seem to think a state can only be left wing, when in a right wing state educated society. The people are going to be a lot more smarter and right wing then a libertarian self taught society

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>>124379677
t. jidf

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>>124377236
Enjoy getting replaced winner.

>>124352935
Meritocracy isn't an economic system, you tard. If anything, meritocracy leads to capitalism.

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>>124379229
Yeah and if they were fucking communist it would of happened anyway.

Farming practices slowly increase, so the population goes up. Then more efficient ways of production are needed so with all the coal and resources the industrial revolution happens.

>unthinkable without banking
Nah just keep your money in a safe and only pay with cash

>>124380023
not an argument, Zionist shill

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>>124351362
I see it mostly from /r/le_doland faggots. The lifeblood of the board recognizes the same shitty outcome from both international systems.

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