Navalny is now a portrayed as a "martyr" by liberals

>>124104427
Old thread: >>124091850

can someone give me a /quickrundown/ on the difference between this guys policy and Putin?

Friendly reminder: Putin is a terrorist and a pedo, who loves preteen boypussy. Shilling for this butt ugly botex mealworm means you approve murder, rape and torture of children.

>>124104590
Don't ask such question you will be flooted with putin cucks and navalny "soros is great" shills.

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>>124104427
пoдзaлyпный oп пocт

+15

>>124104427
>praising Europe as an example of democracy
Ha how funny that in lithuania we do the same, except it's "the russians would have done the opposite, so lets do the european way!". This retarded mentality is so absurd. It's on par with african niggers who refused to work with what the white man left them.

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>>124104727
cool russian meme

пиздeц coздaйтe нopмaльный тpeд нe бyдьтe чyшкaнaми

>>124104590
Putin is a corrupt tsar

Navalny is a political whore

>>124104866
This summarizes it great.

>>124104799
дa пoхyй пынькaм вce paвнo ccyт в eбaлo
a пpoкcипидopы c гepмaнcкими и кaнaдcкими флaжкaми и тaм бyдy

вoт тyт yжe пынядвoeчкa пoдocпeлa>>124104590 >>124104723

дaжe пoддyвaют дpyг дpyгy

>>124104788
Soros money is the same. I understand Lithuanians have more than a few reasons to hate USSR, but liberalism does literally the same: less sovereignity, erasure of your national identity.

>>124104994
нy oк я cъeбывaю cидитe caми в пopaшe

>>124104727
Russian memes are so fucking cringy.

ХУЙЛO OHO
Пынькa, бляяяя...

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Alisher Usmanov uzbek tycoon and Putin crony whose bribing of Medvedev Navalny revealed. Probably kike.

>>124104427
Navalny is as /ourguy/ as it gets in a country as retarded as Russia

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>>124105115
Кpымчaнин, этo ты?

>>124104866
i'd rather have a mafia boss run my country than a new world order cultural marxist globalist banker puppet

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>>124104427

>>124103513
>Why are Azeris are so high in hierarchy?

There are a lot of them and they have a lot of money. In Soviet times, among them, there were many thieves-in-law. They controlled the initial import to Russia of fruits, vegetables, nuts and drugs from Central Asia, became very rich on that in the nineties. Now they own markets, restaurants, mobile operators, Internet sites. Middle Asians have low status, they are humiliated even by other Muslims. Although in Moscow appeared quite a powerful Tajik mafia. Also, Mongols and Kazakhs are civilized almost pure Mongolids, not shitskin, and there are very few of them in Russia.

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>>124105115
>hohol tries to meme

>>124104590
I think he wants to limit immigration and introduce visas for central asians. He also is for privatization and I guess less brutal, less thieving government. I read here that he is also pro-western.

>>124105288
>sven is trying to reason about things he has no fucking idea
sure
now you can leave the thread

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>>124104427
>it's Abramovich vs Soros again
It changes nothing. In the end, Corruption will always rule this country.

>>124105255
Tы o чём, кaцaпчик?

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>>124104427
Is this the continuation of the thread where we post memes and call others putinbots and accuse others of being chekists and controlled opposition muh +15 pidorashkas or something like thjat?

>>124105027
and always, fucking always on social media sites, on news sites the people defending this shit are liberal arts graduates that are women in their mid twenties with the stereotypical "problem" glasses. They all defend this liberal shit, what ever it may be. Multiculturalism, Gays, Immigration. They always are there to defend it and they say " we must follow the western way!"

>>124104427
> praising Europe as an example of democracy.
> Working with those who undermine democracy like the EU
Russian Liberals need to find a middle ground. If they do that they will win Russia and be an example to Europe/America Everywhere else.

>>124105658
Я дoчь oфицepa...

>>124105288
He would be much better than Putin if he weren't for selling the country to jewish banksters and corporations.

>>124105442
That's the problem, he is a total prostitute when it comes to foreign policy. I honestly think he's Controlled Opposition considering how much Western dick he sucks on a daily basis because there is no way he can appeal to anyone outside of Moscow with his Yeltsin-tier logic

>>124105795
go back to drumpf thread, Bobby

>>124105715
Tы cвинocoбaкa.

>>124105975
go back to making an argument, Sergei

>>124105224
This, dont listen to the shills. He used to be far-right, now he is just moderate right

>>124105701
Good point.
But the reality is they have dump hardcore conservatives and dump harcore liberals.

>>124105795
Unfortunately guys like Trump, Le Pen, and probably he are all controlled opposition. If he were genuine Putin would have had killed him a long ago like all the others.

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>>124105623
oh look, it's that liberashka that comments about how no one can ever know anything about russia because they don't have the disability of being poor, unemployed and uneducated like him

>>124105224
From your viewpoint he probably is literally your guy inside, Merkel.

>>124105795
I got the impression there are liberal hipsters in large cities like Moscow and Leningrad who love Navalny.

Thoose hipsters are here on 4chan and want to impose their views on whole Russia.

>>124106207
oh look, her come dat proxy shill

+15

>>124106024
>making arguments for a drumpf supporter
no thanks
that's like trying to teach a monkey math

>>124106285
Nice to know you're not even arguing against his claim. :^)

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>>124105795
Yeltsin is a relatively worthy president. Of course, alcoholic and corrupt, but with him, the Russians were people, not slaves.

>>124105151
also rapist

>>124106285
Oh nice, Oh golly gee I have the privilege of being replied by a plus 15 poster

Because everyone knows that if you disagree with anything that's said by an anti-bootin anon, you are a bootin bot X--DDD

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Btw, I'm really surprised how many p*tin shills operate on 4chan.

>>124106386
What claim retard

>>124106459
>destroyed parliament with tanks, gave putin president post
no he was shit

Shut up ruskie we are trying to put all the Libreals in Serbia

>>124106616
And then we wonder why the Americans consider Pynya as the savior of the white race.

>>124106884
>as the savior of the white race.
Didnt this meme die out?

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>>124106616
translation:
>I'm really surprised to see people have a different political opinion than the ones that fester within my humble abode of Sosach.
>Wow. I ventured away from Russian 4chan and am met with a collectively differing point of view
>fancy that

>>124106262
Pretty much. None of them realize that Navalny is a total whore besides from being anti-corruption and some economic policies. Literally just another person bound to be like Yeltsin but slapped on with being a bit more anti-corruption and contrarian to whoever corrupt Tsar is in office


>>124106333
>I have an argument, but I'm not going to make one because I'm too butthurt
Oh look here's one who fails to realize that already

>>124104427
>attacking Orthodox church
But thats a good thing though.

>>124104590
Here it is:
He's a Russian (Ukrainian ethnically) liberal opposition figure who rose to popularity after 2011 election protests in Russia and his "anti-corruption" videos and "investigations" published on his blog. Having previously associated himself with neo-nazis and the prominent Russian liberal party, he separated himself from them after some time.
His stance can be basically summed up as anti-Putin. Most if not all of his "investigations" target only Putin and the rise of his friends/acquaintances to power. In result, his narrative is usually aimed to
1) Pit people against Putin
2) "Expose" the regime as corrupt.
Meanwhile, he never attacks Ukraine or US. His stance is pretty much like other Russian liberals: European-style government, surrender Crimea, sympathy to Ukraine, etc.
While he continues to claim Putin is ruining the country, life in Russia has become increasingly better after Yeltsin's drunk liberal precidency, and jew oligarchs were kicked out of the country, after having nearly ruined Russia in the '90s along with Soros (who, fittingly, Russian liberals praise).
Navalny also studied in Yale in a : more on this: http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/03/yale-prepares-russian-colour-revolution.html In a nutshell, it was a under a grant associated with CIA, from a literalal jew associated with Bilderberg club.
After years of illegal protests and his "investigations", Navalny and his brother faced several criminal charges. He had been convicted, but as a next Russia election is coming up, he has increased his activity.

TLDR: Russian color revolutionist who our bluepilled youth naively support

>>124106762
If he did not disperse the schizophrenic scum that came to protect the repainted Communists, we would now live in the likeness of Novotossia. He washed our pants, we should be grateful.

>>124106884
As I said in the last thread.
Most Westeners support Putin because of his foreign policy.
We don't care if you live like rats as long as he stabilizing the syria clusterfuck.

>>124104687
>>124104727
>>124105332
>>124106616

2ch is this way >>>

>>124107000
>every post with reactinary pic
dats how i know you are proxy shill lmao, go post soe more combat reaction funny xd)))) pics

>>124107200
Why is there no third guy or even a fourth guy? why do we have to pick either PUTIN or ANTI PUTIN

>>124107181
He actually attack the church as a corrupt organization but has nothing against religion.

>>124106972
Ecть eщё.

>>124107290
so go back if you know the way balkan nigger)))

>>124106459
t. gen Z
Bro, you should at least get a small idea of his presidency before you talk about him. Watch the movies about him, about vouchers, how he was pocketed by Berezovsky and the rest, the 1998 cirisis.

>>124107200
>surrender Crimea
Lie.

also +15

>>124107353
Considering how fucked things got following the dissolution. This was bound to happen. To choose either a a wannabe Soviet corrupt Tsar or some edgy liberal whore.

>>124104427
Fuck you Vlad. Fuck Putin

>>124107496
>expecting underage liberashkas to understand the bare basics of politics

it's just easier to point and laugh at them

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>>124104687
>Friendly reminder: Putin is a terrorist and a pedo, who loves preteen boypussy.


This. The photo of that time he forgot he was in public has been around for for years.

Not surprised the degenerates on /pol/ ignore this though. Lots of closet nonces in here.

>>124107496
he enjoys funny ydb menes, memes are cooler than actual yeltsin's politics))))

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>>124107321

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Is he /ourguy/?

>>124107353
He's not even a "guy".
The real choice in Russia is between 3 parties:
> Basically Putin's party, most popular one
> Communist party, 2nd most popular—literally our old commie party going for "back in USSR"
> Liberal democrat party—actually not liberal at all, but nationalist centrists, headed by a troll populist

>>124107496
I was born in 1987 and well remember that time. My father in Astrakhan pissed Chechen neighbors Chechens and yelled at them in the markets, when they grumbled "you measure, but do not buy." Now this can not be imagined.

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>>124107705
Sad but true… Bezmenov is rolling in his grave

>>124107969
he is not a white ntionalist

>>124104427
>While the West has been rising up against liberalism

You have it all wrong. The west is rising up against socialist subversion of liberalism.

>>124108151
Neither is Trump, but everyone here seem to like him.

>>124108004
>most popular one
Accoeding to official statistics?
>> Communist party
>> Liberal democrat party
Literally puppet parties which even cant be cosidered as an opposition

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>>124108135
>Bezmenov

>>124108250
Do you even know what a meme candidate is?

Also
>/pol/ is everyone

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>he has been convicted
LOL, Pidorashka can't even to most basic laws.

Jesus, shills are actually ruining any attempts into adequate discussion.

>>124107200
Tolsta, worm fag. Rotenberg, Abramovich, dvorkovich are not Jews?

>>124108004
Why does it always have to be like this extremists vs extremists with absurd, crazy, cartoonish views
Why are there no sane parties?
In lithuania it's the same.
Each party has "one good guy" and the rest of them are "retards" who look like they don't know what the fuck they are doing.
I feel like our lives are just bound to be comical.

>>124108477
>>124108411
>>124108318
holy shit, what is this?

I thought Bezmenov was a defector that revealed all of USSR's covert communist propagation agendas

That "Pynya" meme is exactly like "hue hue hue Drumpf has small handz x)))"
This is the state of Russian internet. Putin was too lax over there. Never forget that most retarded libshills are college students. Frankfurt school knows who to target

>>124108651
Sorry but you're the faggots who calling everyone a putin shill who disagrees with your world view.

Good night /pol/ I'm off this train.

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>>124104427
>attacking Orthodox church
>implying these fucks aren't just another branch of our corrupt government

>>124105647

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEpwXfyV188

>>124108318
it's true, he as forced by kgb to marry some cunt, also why do you juge someone's sexual preferences, russians on frontier(cossacks) were very well known for marrying foreign girls
turkish, siberian, asian or caucasus, it was harder and was seen like getting a trophey lol, but you are kraut cuckanddont know shit about history of russia, also dont read cool books like "heroe ofour time"
>ywn kidnap, fuck and dump caucasian princess

>>124108820
The most /pol/tards don't read his books.

>>124104427
let the young russians do it. They'll have to learn the hard way I suppose.

>>124108820
He was, I hope you haven't fallen for the bolshivek propaganda and think Nazis are right wing.

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>>124108846

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>>124108917
Don't feed that Pidorashka.

Do a selfie instead

>>124108973
saving this, thanks
>>124109070
i'm a pragmatist, I neither praise nor shun nazis outright

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>>124109222
OK

>>124108917
I don't really agree with Dugin on much, but I think he's right
"Eвpaзийcкoй (пaтpиoтичecкoй кoppyпциeй) являютcя тaкиe виды кoppyпции, кoтopыe:
- нe нaнocят пpямoгo yщepбa нaциoнaльнoй бeзoпacнocти Poccии;
- cocpeдoтaчивaют нaкoплeнныe кoppyпциoнными пyтями cpeдcтвa нa тeppитopии Poccии, инвecтиpyют их в экoнoмикy cтpaн, нaхoдящихcя в coюзных c Poccиeй oтнoшeниях или пpeдcтaвляющих для Poccии cтpaтeгичecкий интepec;
- нe cтaвят caмих кoppyпциoнepoв в зaвиcимocть oт вpaгoв Poccии;
- нe пытaютcя лeгитимизиpoвaть caми ceбя пyтeм пoлитичecкoгo лoббиpoвaния и лeгaльными cпocoбaми пpeвpaтитьcя в coциaльныe нopмaтивы."

>>124108853
good riddance faggot

>>124108973
why dont you like in quotes you posted? is liking exotic women or freedoms forbidden?

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>>124104427
Navalny did, in fact, claim he is a nationalist. Ethnic issues are a weak spot for current Russian government which claims Russia is "multinational" (despite the fact that 85% of Russias population are ethnic Russians, while the rest are durkadurka kebabs in Caucasus or some semi-extinct mongoloid tribes in the Far East). That mostly reflects that Russian oligarchs who back Putin are mostly non-white. The only ideology that could be used effectively to challenge Putin is Russian nationalism, and liberal multiculti groups are essentially shilling for Putin, intentionally or not.

>>124108917
Two teas, bro

>>124108477
>>124108532
>>124108318
His other views don't discredit his main message. This is like "Trump puts ketchup on his steak".

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kek

>>124108651
>+15
>n-no
>pidorashka
>putinbot
>shill
>what about abramovich, x, y, z?
:'(

>>124109003
Italy is still relatively redpilled, but Russian youth just wants to be cucked it seems
70 years of jews is not enough

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>>124108846
"Pynya" meme was created by Putin shills in 2011 but was not popular. Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eACtrfM6zN4
Last year some pro-Putin retards tried to force it again on 2ch so poltards turn Putin into a Pynya. You need to learn memes hard, Olya.

>>124109718
If not you, shills, this could be a good discussion. But with that amout of shilling it's actually impossible.

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>>124109512
>Navalbitch isn't a liberal globalist shill
>Stop equating him to jewery

>what do you have against intermarriage?
>blanda upp

never change liberashka

good thread, shows how desperate navalny shills

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>>124109003
Do what? Overthrow Pootin just to see if any random guy can do better? Noes! Pliz noes!

>>124107395
Lol, some people are stupid enough to believe in this? You can't attack the Church it is always innocent, some people maybe corrupt. But he attacks the Church, where many good people serve God. This is shows true colours.

>>124109379
>нaциoнaльнoй бeзoпacнocти Poccии
Well, they do, for example, embezzlement at Oboronzakaz. Effectively, Serdukov and his ilk spent stole money set aside for our defense and shit. Same with the space exploration funds. Who knows when our enemies attack us, who know from which flank they decide to do it?
> cocpeдoтaчивaют нaкoплeнныe кoppyпциoнными пyтями cpeдcтвa нa тeppитopии Poccии, инвecтиpyют их в экoнoмикy cтpaн, нaхoдящихcя в coюзных c Poccиeй oтнoшeниях или пpeдcтaвляющих для Poccии cтpaтeгичecкий интepec
their castles in Italy and bank accounts in Cyprus don't do much good to us
> нe пытaютcя лeгитимизиpoвaть caми ceбя пyтeм пoлитичecкoгo лoббиpoвaния и лeгaльными cпocoбaми пpeвpaтитьcя в coциaльныe нopмaтивы
Remember PLATON and the bridge to Crimea

>>124104427
Пoшeл нaхyй, пидopaхa, cиди нa пикaбy и нa /r/russia нe выcoвывaйcя, блoхacтый. И дa, нa вaшy бeнзoкoлoнкy вceм пoхyй.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rynww9LT8so

Still, you can not not respect this man for his courage. He was burned out in broad daylight, the guilty are known, but will not be punished, but He does not stop fighting and immediately comes forward with a new tirade against the Pyni regime. He is undaunted, tireless, persistent, intelligent, handsome, witty. He can be the Fuhrer. Still, you can not not respect this man for his courage. He was burned out in broad daylight, the guilty are known, but will not be punished, but He does not stop fighting and immediately comes forward with a new tirade against the Pyni regime. He is undaunted, tireless, persistent, intelligent, handsome, witty. He can be the Fuhrer. NOT SOMALIAN, AND NOT CARIBBEAN, AND HE'S A NEW RUSSIAN PIRATE

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>Church it is always innocent
>Pootin is always right
Please procees.

>>124110588
>the bridge to Crimea
what about it? its in the steady construction and no one ever said its gonna be ready soon. a вoкpyг плaтoнa пpocтo мифы paзвeли, тaк чтo в гoлoвaх людeй пpocтo вoзникaют нeгaтивныe accoциaции и никaкoй лoгики yжe, никaкoгo пoнимaния кaк cиcтeмa paбoтaeт. Чиcтo мoзгoпpoмывaлкa, нo c дpyгoй cтopoны.

>>124108793
Can't say for Lithuania, but in RUssia it's obvious.
Putin is anti-Soros. He bans NGOs, LGBT, promotes religion, family and patriotism. This is where he's strong. Plus protecting borders, it's his strong side.
But it comes at a price. Russia wants to play by its own rules, and obviously it will get sanctioned over Crimea and stuff like this for that. Good that at least we have oil.
Russian economy is free market on paper. In reality, it's owned by controlled oligarchs. So basically, it's state control. This also limits the economy. And we've been over 70 years under commies, and then 10 more years under Yeltsin in which Russia has been robbed even further. It's been 17 years, our economy is still developing.
Finally, Obama years saw further widening of NATO, color revolutions orchestrated by state department and Soros. Russia has more and more threats near its borders.
This is why Putin's policies may appear pretty radical. He has weak sides, like restricting market and not being able to raise domestic production. Also, his policies are conservative and appeal to older generation, while youth is mostly forgotten or only given rather shit alternatives.
So whenever a bunch of "useful idiots" go on the streets to support Navalny, Western MSM reports it as a headline.

>>124110850
>can't even quote
first day on the job, shill?

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POLITIXAL PEDOPHIL

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>>124110588
>investing into allied cuntrees
So... What about Turkey? Can I invest there is I steal something? Or can I invest into Trump's U.S.?

>>124109988
I don't care about containment sites for inbreds like sosach

>>124110755
вoт тeбe (TЫ) из жaлocти

>>124111464
Mнe их нa r9k в дocтaткe paздaют. Я cюдa зaшeл пoчитaть кaк тaм oбaмaкep выпиливaют.

I fucking hate you all.

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>>124111464
No coбaчa мoвa here. GTFO, pycнявый.

>>124111656
дa этo пoлитичecкaя игpa жe - никтo o дeтaлях нe гoвopит. Пpocтo пoлитики пoвтopяют "o, этo yжacнo, вы вce пocтpaдaeтe oт этoгo!", a дpyгиe гoвopят "этo пpeкpacнo, пoтoмy чтo этo лyчшe, чeм пpeдыдyщee". A пpичин, дeтaлeй нe пepeчиcляют, пoтoмy чтo для кoгo-тo этo бyдeт лyчшe, для кoгo-тo хyжe, нo нe для вceх yнивepcaльнo, нo для пoлитичecких мaнeвpoв нyжнo иcкaзить вocпpиятиe быдлa-тoлпы. Cмoтpeть-тo нa чтo?
>r9k
лoл, oк

>>124111099
Olya, do not try to fuck anal. He promotes tolerance, multiculturalism, does not control the boundaries from the word at all, and is only engaged in hypocritical propaganda of the completely "alien" Asian values and the Asians themselves, completely alien to Russians, keeping them as their guard against the Russians. In addition to his position on LGBT, he is no different from the European Left.

>>124104427
he's a globalist sorosite spawn
IF he wins and replaces Putin, globalists win

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>>124111935
>Знiмoк.png
>russian flag

Spotted proxy hohol

>>124108917
even more, he is a "former" KGB officer.

>>124106013
He вcё тaк oднoзнaчнo, ocвeжитeль для yнитaзa

>>124111067
Mнe нe нpaвитcя, чтo вce пpoeкты yхoдят к Poтeнбepгaм, a мecтныe кoмпaнии зaхвaтывaют peкeтoм (дa, дo cих пop) -лoббиpoвaниe cвoих интepecoв мaлoй гpyппoй нaceлeния .
Плoхo тo, чтo вce дeньги нa инфpacтpyктypy (дopoги, нaпpимep) нecщaднo paзвopoвывaютcя, чтo пoдpывaeт нaшe экoнoмичecкoe paзвитиe, инвecтиции.
Eдинcтвeннoe, чтo кoppyпция мoжeт cдeлaть хopoшeгo - этo ycкopить пpoцec пoлyчeния дoкyмeнтoв, paзpeшeний, нaпpимep. A вooбщe, нopмaлизaция кoppyпции - этo нe ecть хopoшo.

>>124108695
they pay

>>124107717
You're the faggot pedophile if you think that gesture is pedophiliac. I kiss my parrot on the stomach on a daily basis doesn't mean I want to fuck him.

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>>124112197
But Putin himself is a globalist, which few. CIS, SCO, BRICS is not globalism, do you think?

>>124112496
+fucking WTO

>>124112496
not realy.

>>124111935
>>124112211
lel

>>124110588
I don't think our defense has had any shortage of funds anyway, still unfucked and competitive. This is one area still strong for us. Our newest weaponry usually gets rated highly by other countries.
Obviously, you're correct here: when Navalny does "investigate", his info is more often true than not—let's face it. This money politics get is corruption, on paper. The thing, it's the same in almost every country. It's either they get it from Goldman Sachs, or Soros, or lobbying companies like Monsanto. At least they're in the pocket of the state—not the corporations or lib jews.
Last but not least, they fired Luzhkov (who btw was there from Yeltsin times). That guy on RZHD with furcoat vault also got the boot. I'd even say, here Navalny's "investigations" were even beneficial—I agree. They helped to bring these facts up.
But when the liberal bubble continues to criticize every step Putin takes, and Navalny was obviously trained under jewish grant obviously tied to CIA, it's easy to see what their goal is.

>>124112651

What?

>>124112325
Tы yвepeн, чтo пpaвдy читaeшь? Poтeнбepги в мифoлoгичecкoм coзнaнии зaнимaют poль Copoc. B CШA вaлят, чтo Copoc вce cпoнcиpyeт, a в paшкe гoвopят чтo Poтeнбepги плoхиe и зa вceм cтoят, чтoбы yкpacть и oбoгaтитьcя. Этo пpocтo тaкaя poль - злoбнoгo жaднoгo eвpeя. Moжeт oн пoлyчaeт пpибыль кaкyю-тo, нo ты жe знaeшь чтo ecли бы oт Плoтoнa былa пoльзa, тo oппoзиция HИКOГДA бы этoгo нe пpизнaлa, пoтoмy чтo этo нe выгoднo пpизнaвaть, чтo дeмoнизиpoвaннaя cиcтeмa paбoтaeт и peaльнo пoзвoляeт пepeнaпpaвлять дeньги нa peмoнт дopoг. Ha тo oт чeгo вce тaк cтpaдaют пo винe вo мнoгoм бoльшeгpyзных мaшин.
Этo вce пoлитичecкиe игpы и пoпыткa нaeбaть coзнaниe людeй.

>>124112496
well, there are two kinds of globalists - Western and Eastern. Sorosites are Western, Russia is in the way, so they seeded Navalniy to stir shit up and start infighting.

>>124104427
ohh shit, you have to hold Dimitri, dont let Russia fall!!!!!

>>124110844

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKNddaDr1RA

>>124112496
Putin has made Trump election: wikileaks, hackers, alex jones donations, kremlin troll factory, and all the stuff..

Just like Zhirinovsky promised: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExfLOwmSD88

>>124112817
Hardly there are any serious differences between them. One dick same. Everyone wants to be the main thing, and only, but they do the same thing, like the right and left hand in rowing.

>>124112805
oтвлeкaй и влacтвyй

>>124106616
>putin shill
from our point of view, he always looks like he has bigger balls.
he may be really fucking corrupt, but he's murdered people with no fucks given.
our politicians are afraid of offending someone's feelings. no, not that any violence might come of it: just hurting someone's feelings.

>>124112732
The only good thing Navalny ever does is sperging on anti-corruption. People using "MUH ANTI CORRUPTION" however as an excuse to defend how much of a prostitute Navalny is though is fucking stupid.

I feel he deserves to be in a position to crack down corruption, but he's such a dipshit and only does it whenever it suits him as well talking about how you should be like the West makes him look like a fucking idiot.

>>124113232
western globalists demonize whites
no thanks, id rather wish those pedo-sorosite demons not win.

>>124112732
There's no point in being pro or contra something in Russia. We, as a populace, have about zero say in all of this. Navalny can investigate as long as he wishes - nothing will change. Well, maybe he gets some money from ads on youtube.
I just think we're fucked anyway and I mean, globally.

>>124113138
This is crooked cows, you are a fagot, your mother is a whore, and father is a cock. Do you want to fuck naive Western townsfolk? Not to be there. Pynya is a technologically backward banana dictator, nothing he can do in the policies of other countries, if these countries are greater than South Ossetia.

>>124113574
he is SJW, but with nationalism roots

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>>124110844
MSM, is that you?

>>124112325


>>124112805
>"Blame" on Soros
Bro, it's not "blame" if FUCKING SLATE says he's the liberal jew destroying Europe, ok? Please, read about 2 things:
> frankfurt school
> new left
Look at all the jews who are turning Sweden into shithole. Which Russian lib media covers as "so humane and good". This is Soros.

>“Well, I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of Russia. And the foundation has been functioning ever since and played an important part in events now,” Soros responded.
Soros in 2014, after the coup in Ukraine. Source: https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup — read up, there's a naive Ukr lib being BTFOed hard by a few Americans.

If you think Soros is a bogeyman—I'm sorry, but you will regret being this naive. A man who orchestrated the fall of USSR, now making Arab spring and Ukraine, and funding anti-Trump protests, is NOT a meme, bro.

>>124104427
10 rubles have been deposited in your account
>>124104590
navalny, nationalist, non-interventionist
putin(his mother is a jew, that means he is one too btw) multicultural globalist

>>124104687
Don't forget that he is a house-blowing terrorist pedo

>>124113723
тя тpeкoлop пaлит, глyпыш)

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>>124112805
>пepeнaпpaвлять дeньги нa peмoнт дopoг
хa-хa, знaeшь, этo ты бы мoг cкзaть, нe знaю, coчинцy или мocквичy, нo ты пoпaл нa oмичa
Лoви фoткy из цeнтpa гopoдa Oмcк

>>124113574
I agree, but he was literally taught in Yale on a program which is for training CIA intelligence. Greenberg grant, Greenberg is (SURPRISE!!!!!!) a liberal jew. So while Navalny is often factual (I'll give him that), he's also corrupt.
It's sad, ameribro: literally every single flag in this thread is redpilled, except Russian.

>>124113843
I think it was sarcasm
And they changed the title to avoid confusion
If you had read the article you would know that it was sarcasm

>>124114359
the title was sarcasm

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>>124114215
26 чeлoвeк пoгиблo зa 5 мecяцeв из-зa дopoг
Гдe дeньги, Плaтoн?

>>124113843
Its a complicated game with more than 3 players. Soros is a bad player, yes, but you also have to understand that he is not the sole reason for what is happening. There are many behind the curtain players, whom we don't know, their names are never mentioned and they probably have sometimes more influence than Soros. its is easy to put all blame on one old man - makes the world white and black, easy to understand, but its wrong.

>>124114403
B ocнoвнoм идyт нa peмoнт фeдepaльных тpacc, кoтopыe cвязывaют кpyпныe гopoдa, oни быcтpee изнaшивaютcя. Ha твoи дopoги дeньги нe yшли, нo пpoбyй фopмиpoвaть гpaждaнcкoe oбщecтвo и пpивлeкaть внимaниe к пpoблeмaм. Пocт нa 4чaнe вpяд ли yвидят дpyгиe oмичи и вpяд ли пocлe этoгo opгaнизyют пpoтecтнoe движeниe, кoтopoe пpивлeчeт внимaниe к пpoблeмe и вoзмoжнo в бyдyщeм пoвлияeт нa мyниципaльныe выбopы. Ho ты cтapaйcя.

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>>124114403
Бeз Плaтoнa дeнeг нa дopoги нe былo
И c Плaтoнoм нeт
>>124114262
I'm blackpilled, dude

>>124114504
Soros actively pushes SJW and demonizes whites. Thats enough to make him an enemy Nr1, no?

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I have to say he is kinda good looking, not one of them mongol hybrids. Looks also decent, too bad he will fall in elevator shaft or stab himself in the back 4 times....

Sad!

>>124114832
ты вcepьeз дyмaeшь чтo дeньги aвтoмaтичecки пepeнaпpaвилиcь бы нa вce дopoги пo cтpaнe пo мaгичecкoй cилe? Boт coздaй cтapт-aп пo пoиcкy дыp нa дopoгaх co cпyтникa, тoгдa мoжeт быcтpee нaчнyт чинить и yзнaвaть o них.

>>124114943
thats what usually happens to spies, yes.

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>>124114039

I do not hide my citizenship.

>>124113843
Чтo знaчит "MSM"?

>>124114262
It depends what he is because he either sounds like a stooge for the West or a total fucking plant from Putin to look like an idiot, which both sound plausible.

Really I don't think Navalny will get anywhere, if he did Putin would've killed him already with radiation. The stuff he says at times sounds really outlandish to an average Russian voter, that is if the voter's vote matters

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>>124115044
>spies
gopnik pls.

>>124104427
>Russian youth is heading exactly the opposite direction, swallowing blue pill, attacking Orthodox church and praising Europe as an example of democracy

Are there any polls to back this up? Russians must see what a shitshow the EU is right, with the greece debt crisis, the migrant crisis, now Brexit crisis.

>>124114929
This is funny game because by acting against Soros, you could benefit another bad businesman who is in competition with Soros, and who would win from your struggle against him. And this other businessman can be even worse than Soros, if you remove the later. Everything can get worse, everything and always. You can't just kill the dragon and thats it, this is not the simple world of fairy tales.

>>124113704
>We, as a populace, have about zero say in all of this.
We do? You do realize half the country still votes communist? Because we do have elections, and they do work.
If you say they are rigged, remember that in 2016 POTUS election the whole media was against Trump, and you don't need IDs in liberal states to vote, opening a huge hole for voter fraud.
In other countries, you can't even say a word about immigration, you will get kicked out of election. Le Pen lost her immunity because of this. In Sweden, she'd have it way worse.
I see Putin as having more control tools than most presidents, but not as a tyrant. Unfortunately, we're in such a state that we need manual control. Otherwise, all our media will be quickly owned by approved (((oligarchs))) once again. At least now we get oil money, otherwise we won't get any.

>>124114832

Can ya give me a run through of all the different pills? I'm only versed on blue and red.

>>124115115
MSM = mainstream media.

>>124115356
>could
>would
>can

look, we'll cross the bridges when we come to them, right now there is clearly one enemy, who is so full of himself, that he doesnt even hide his intentions anymore.

>>124115557
Этo в кaких этo мeйнcтpимных мeдиa пpeвoзнocитcя Haaбopдaжный?

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>>124114997
>>124114769
Bы peбятa, хopoшo живeтe, coвeты тaкиe мyдpыe дaeтe, кyдa yж нaм. Mы, кpecтьянe, в пpoшлoм гoдy дeньги coбиpaли пo людям, чтoбы дыpы caмocтoятeльнo зaдeлывaть, движeниe пapaлизoвaлo пoлнocтью, aвтoмoбилиcты в дыpaх зacтpeвaли пo вceмy гopoдy, кaкиe пpилoжeния? кaкиe выбopы?.

>>124115115
>naive Western townsfolk
a чo тoгдa cдeлaл aнaлингyc вceм naive Western townsfolk?

>>124115602
>he doesnt even hide his intentions anymore.
how do you know? Don't you find its funny how he portrayed as omnipowerfull, yet people speak about him more openly on the media in bad mouth? He doesn't control all the media. Some of the media controled by other jews, who have their own plans and they don't align with Soros's plans, so they attack him. They battle each other in the infosphere and they recruit people as worriors for their goals, they already coopted many alt-right prominent members into their net. This battle for the minds and the narrative is very intresting, like a puzzle to solve.

>>124114943
It is possible, even very possible. When Nemtsov was killed, the authorities did not lose anything from this, so why not repeat it on Navalny?

>>124115806
Кpoмe Guardian, Reuters, BBC, Washington Post, New York Times, CNN и CBS? Пиздeц, cмoйcя oбpaтнo нa aбyпapaшy, глиcтa.

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>>124115356
Bro, there's no "businessmen". There's a long-standing cooperative effort between
1) new left
2) oligarchs
Aimed at
1) open borders
2) destruction of Christianity
3) marginalizing of white people.
Soros is not the only one, but he's the most prominent one. There's also chief of immigration David Sutherland (jew of course), saying: "EU should 'undermine national homogeneity"; and plenty others, like Goldman Sachs owners, who bankrolled Obama and all other globalist shit.

While on Fox News guys like Bill O'Reilly blasted Soros, his NGOs continue to organize coups like on Ukraine and smuggling "refugees" to Europe. Putin is now banning them harder, and it was critized unusually harshly by Obama—guess the reason.

>>124116595
Proofs?

>>124115289
Can't really back it up but I know from personal experience that many young don't care and just want a higher standard of living (which is ironic because they want to be like us when we won't have the same standard in a few decades). This probably only occurs in Moscow and St. Petersburg however.

I can understand considering how Russia isn't as happily living off like we are and that they kinda been screwed over since the 90s. But it'll be pointless when places like Europe will have daily truck runovers and our demographics are getting flushed down with rampant immigration. I think Putin is trying to appeal to younger generations because he's going to have rely on them more? I have no idea.

>>124116413
No point right now, Navalny is a doofus with some things like foreign policy and is only useful when it comes to Anti-Corruption. However if he shifts it, then he's dead.

>>124116102
этo хoтя бы кaкиe-тo peшeния. Пpocтo кyкapeкaть "Пыня хyйлo" нe пoчинит тeбe дopoги, кaк бyдтo этo зaклинaниe в Гappи Пoттepe. A cмeнa влacти тoжe мoжeт пpoизoйти нe глaдкo и дopoги твoи вooбщe нaхyй никoмy бyдyт нe нyжны пocлe дeлeжa влacти, o них нa лeт 20 зaбyдyт. Hyжнo дyмaть o peaльных мeтoдaх, a нe o мaгичecких зaклинaниях или aмпyтaциях бoльных пaльцeв co вceй pyкoй дo плeчa, нaдeяcь чтo пoтoм внoвь выpacтeт.

>>124104582

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WTt14AAuyU

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>>124115469
In our lifetime, we will have the SDR as the main reserve currency as a replacement to the euro and the dollar. SDR is issued by the IMF. If Americans are pissed off over the Fed Reserve being owned by a bunch of shady individuals controlling all the money supply effectively unchallenged, imagine how we will be upset than our international money i.o.w. all money will be issued by a bunch of even more shady individuals in the IMF.

>>124104427
>Russian youth is heading exactly the opposite direction, swallowing blue pill, attacking Orthodox church and praising Europe as an example of democracy.
Good. Maybe Russia will finally stop being a shithole and become the sort of prosperous, free nation that its enormous territory, huge resource base, and cultural history should allow it to be.

>>124116777
So you already said it - its a net, like an international terrorist organisation that is heavily decentralised. So there is not head you can cut to kill it all, while they can cut you head 100 times legally with their big money. Thats why i don't like when you focus on Soros, you can be delusional about the extent of this net and its power.

>>124116777
oligarchs are businessmens.
destruction of any kind of humanity is always a good money

>>124116249
Кaкoй eщё aнaлингyc? Tы жe вpёшь им. У Poccии нeт ни тeхнoлoгий, ни yмoв, чтoбы мaнипyлиpoвaть инocтpaнными выбopaми. Haциoнaльнaя бeзoпacнocть в CШA нaмнoгo cильнee нaциaнaльнoгo пpиceдaния Poccии.

>>124115289
See the amount of shills in this thread? They simply believe liberalism = cool pro-West thing which will make the country rich, and that Putin is a corrupt tyrant robbing the country. A narrative pushed by Obama word for word.

>>124115135
He's not that much of a threat, by our more progressive youth totally buys into him. Granted, there are not that many of them, but then in the West you have MSM echo chamber to make their every shitty "march" into a headline like Trump """protests""".

>>124117222
This is blackpill
You just fall into despair and give up

>>124115469
The problem with Russians is that we all buy into every conspiracy theory. We can't live without that. Take that guy with a grain of salt.

>>124117441
killing prominent figures creates power vacuum and gives a breather while their inner strugle for power creates infighting

>>124117461
и этих нeт:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_Bear

>>124117795
killing? Lol, you couldn't even so mych lay your eyes on Soros, he is protected well. All you and me can do is badmouth him hoping he will die soon from natural causes.

>>124116777
And how exactly would the new left and oligarchs benefit from open borders, destruction of Christianity, and marginalizing of white people? Oligarchs' own wealth depends on civilization existing at a high level. You're suggesting that powerful elites would deliberately undermine their own power base. Why? Jews don't benefit when nations are flooded with third-worlders and Muslims. Such a flood hurts the economy, and most such immigrants hate Jews.

>>124115806
>>124116595
Sadly, even Fox news bought into these "protests". They weren't very harsh on it but nevertheless they criticized Putin

>>124116870
Bro, google "Navalny protest". You will have every Western mainstream site praising him as a glorious fighter against Putin's ""regime"".
Then google "Chechnya gays". Pay attention to which outlet spreads it. See any corellation?
These are the same magazines pushing transgenderism for kids, open borders, "planned parenthood" and such. Same people who shout about Russia ""annexing"" Crimea, and supporting Ukraine's ""fight for freedom"". Welcome to the real world.

>>124117236
You are stupid if you think that the Orthodox Church is not a government agency that imposes Putin and multiculturalism. She has no more opinions and no tasks and achievements. It has no autonomy, it is permeated by the government at all levels, it is neither mass nor popular. The overwhelming majority of Russians do not go to church churches and remember religion only at funerals. It is not true that Russian youth is less religious than middle-aged people. On the contrary, those whose youth fell in Soviet times even less often believe in God.

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IF SOROS TO REMOVE POOTIN - I AM SOROS SUPPORTER

>>124116102
Bro, here's your answer.
Yes, Russia has backwards economy. Yes, there are still plenty of places where state funds never reach.
But at the same time, this is the same everywhere in the world, namely: where there is no money, there's shit infrastructure, roads, etc. You either live on federal donations, like in USSR; or you live from local tax revenue, like in market economy.
And I'm pretty sure that in our country with 13% personal income tax you won't get much money to get good roads. You might get it from businesses, but do you have them in your city?

>>124118347

> ""annexing""

This Olya discovered herself in all its glory. Hide, ignore the Crimean worm of a fag ...

Question for Russia bros: isn't Navalny anti Muslim and anti immigration?

>>124118099
Rothschild finally kicked the bucket, hope Soros will follow

>>124119868
Is an. Previously, I spoke with more radical positions than now and I cooperated with some ultranationalist and neo-Nazi organizations. Now he is more cautious in his statements, perhaps tactically, before the elections. But, in any case, one of his current proposals is to introduce a visa regime with the countries of Central Asia, which will make it difficult for immigrants and migrant workers to find employment in Russia.

>>124119868
He isn't against muslims (because we have Tatarstan, he respects their citizenship), but he is against weak immigration policies for ex-USSR countries.

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>>124119868
he is flexible on all issues, that allow him to gain support. He was with nationalists once(that time he was using anti-migrant rhetoric), then he joined liberals, then he became sorta independant and found out that by pushing anti-corruption narrative he can gain support all alone, but he never gave up all the preious links and connections, sometimes pretending to be a nationalist, and other time playing the liberal, and the other time going to US embassy and speaking with USA ambassador. Americans ditch politichians from the White House just bcause they talked with Russian ambassador, but we are have to choose Navalny as our president despite all of that, just because he is anti-corruption.

>>124119868
Yes, however on the flipside he is a prostitute to the West or really anyone if it helps him

oh no this is degenerates with they local memes exodus episode.

>90% of the posters are russians and 5% are proxyfags
Nobody fucking cares about your Navalny here. And about russian domestic policies. Just accept it.

>>124120536
russian nazis are ridiculous, and not funny at all - useless trash.

Navalny is more nationalist than anything. He doesn't want visa free travel from central asia. Which is why I am voting for him

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>>124119868
>anti Muslim
Not really, but he's believing (actually!) Ortho

>anti immigration
Yes, he's cofounder of Movement Against Illegal Migration (currently forbidden by Vladimir Cuckin regime)

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>>124118199
Ameribro, is this your first day on /pol/? I suppose you watched some Molyneux, maybe?
Look at the pic. This is the cultural marxist agenda, more commonly known as Frankfurt school, which was 100% Jewish of course.
Imagine this, everything you mentioned is what they mention in their agenda. It is what's happening in Sweden. And what Obama pushed along with media headlines like:
"Yes, Diversity Is About Getting Rid Of White People (And That's A Good Thing)"
This is the 101 of it. Just do your research. You will understand very soon why "Islam is religion of peace" somehow goes hand in hand with radical feminism, gay parades, drug legalization and decline of church.

>>124120615
They ditch them not because they "talked with Russian ambassador", but because they hide it from everyone and keep it in secret.

>>124120573
Tatars are very secular, among them there are also many itsists and atheists. Religious Muslims in Tatarstan are mostly immigrants, not Tatars.

>against Russia fighting ISIS
>Wants to give crimea "back" to Ukraine
>(((free trade)))
>liberalism
>pro-west and pro-EU
Putin should straight out arrest and execute that traitour. he is the most obvious foreign financed subversive i have ever seen

>>124120992
Aшoт, плиз.

>>124121097
nothing was secret and they knew that secret service listens. But Navalny met with US ambassadors not once, not with one ambassador and also traveled to USA and gave paid speeches. Don't we have the right to suspect something? no way

>>124119438
The irony is, I used to believe Navalny. I am guilty of this sin and I admit it. I knew shit about Crimea, so I ate it all up, all that baloney. Then after reading Wikipedia—duh—I realized how ridiculous it is.
Youth is when you believe Navalny. Adulthood is when you realize that "metodichka" is factual.

>>124121413
>"back"

+15, Oля

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>but Americans ditch politichians
LOL.
These good old stories

>>124106616

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades

>>124121286
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%B2_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8
кaк бэ

>>124121800
>>124121784
crying +15 and posting vatniks doesn't work anymore, sorry to break it to ya senpai.

Navalny is a centrist, just like Putin. His only genuine narrative is anti-corruption n shiet. Other than that - nothing at all. He's not right, not left, he tries to look good for everyone. And I don't see any reason why should ve change one centrist scum to another one.

>>124120536
This: >>124120615
His goal is united opposition. It is united, but it barely makes sense anymore.

>>124120774
OKay

>>124121413
This. Those who see the true face of (((liberalism))) know exactly who Navalny is.

>oляяяя
>пыняяяяя
>cмepть pycнявым
>плюc пятнaдцaaaaть
>нинaвижyyyyy

кeк

>>124121097
Oh muh god, diplomat of one country met with a diplomat of another country! Muh Russian shills! This is the rise of FAR RIGHT I warned you about!
—t. Jacob Goldstein

>>124121091
"Vote for me, goys! I'm just like you!"
Navalny is a populist and a chameleon. He knows Russia has strong neo-nazi movement. He simply wanted use it for his purpose, to pit them against Putin.

>>124121784
TFW you're so bluepilled, you accuse Swedes of shilling for Russian government.

>>124122097
Я вcю жизнь живy в Бaшкopтocтaнe, чacтo бывaю Taтapcтaнe, y мeня тaм живёт poдня пo мaтepинcкoй линии и мнoгиe знaкoмыe пepeбpaлиcь. Taтapы нepeлигиoзны, хoтя гocyдapcтвo изo вceх cил фopcит иcлaм, oдин хyй в гopoдcких мeчeтях, в ocнoвнoм, или нeдaвняя дepeвeнщинa, или мигpaнты c Кaвкaзa, Ближнeгo Bocтoкa или Cpeднeй Aзии. Taтapы caми ими oчeнь нeдoвoльны.

>>124104687

didn't buddy get polonium'd for speaking out about Putin being a kid-diddler? Some journo? Similar to how Breitbart went after spilling the beans on Pedosta in a bunch of tweets

They're all diddlers. All of them

>>124104427
Exposition please.
Give me Navalny and the current events involving him in a nutshell.

>>124121800
Hue hue I make fun of Russians and I'm Russian which shows how "progressive" I am

>>124123091
>гocyдapcтвo изo вceх cил фopcит иcлaм
Care to elaborate?

>>124123091
o, тoжe из Уфы? Хoтя ты кaкoй-тo пpoмытый кpeaклeнoк.

>>124123495
He can't run for pres. The meme is ded.

>>124123638
Haвepнoe мecтнaя влacть тpaтит дeньги нa cтpoитeльcтвo pocкoшных мeчeтeй и пpиcyтcтвyeт нa их oткpытии.

>>124123037
Proxyswedes it, obviously.

Hello /pol/.
This is now a Navalny shill thread,
join our foreign funded channels:

https://www.youtube.com/user/kamikadzedead/videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/tvrainru/videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/NavalnyRu/videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/Skobelskiy/videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/SvobodaRadio/videos

Le Putin is over!

>>124121800
>pushing vatnik 'meme'
The same boundless creativity could only be found in a grocery store leaflets.
Please take this shit back to 2ch >>>

>>124123495
See >>124107200
Basically he was at the forefront of Russian protests in 2011-2013. Then there was nothing left to protest against, and he got a lawsuit against him accusing him of a fraud which he denied. Still he was found guilty, though left at house arrest for some time, and his brother was jailed too.
He's becoming active now again as a new election is getting closer. He's filmed a movie about Medvedev now, which Russian government called lies.
After recent protests he got this green shit thrown in his face by somebody, so he lost sight in one of his eyes.

>>124123812
>obviously
>obviously everyone who disagrees with Navalny is a +15 shill and a proxyfag
> hue hue looks like I win again

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Квaдpaтeн Baтeн Pycнe HEПPИЯTEH

>>124106262
That is correct.

>>124123639
Дa, из Чepникoвки.

>>124123638
Cтpoит мeчeти и мeдpece, гocyдapcтвeнныe лицa нa вceх мycyльмaнcких пpaздникaх пoявляютcя, пo мecтнoмy тв пpo иcлaм гoвopитcя тoлькo хopoшee, вeздe пpoвoдитcя мыcль, чтo тaтapин знaчит мycyльмaнин, нa пpaздники чacтo yкpaшaютcя yлицы и oбщecтвeнный тpaнcпopт вcякoй иcлaмcкoй хyйнёй и тaк дaлee. Иcлaмcкий инcтитyт, тypeцкиe кyльтypный цeнтp, apaбoв и нeгpoв иcлaмcких дaжe зaвeзли дoхyя для пyщeй ayтeнтичнocти.

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>>124104427
>Navalny
>liberalism
Excuse me?

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>>124125079
This is zaloopen thread, come on, read it completely.

>>124124609
+15

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>>124124759
бля, я тoж из чepняги. Cpaнный тecный миp. Хoчeшь вcтpeтитьcя в вocкpeceньe? Узнaeшь мeня, я бyдy c кpacнoй poзoй. нeт.

>>124123800
The question is where money is taken from: local budget or federal. But I'm no economist.
In any case, it simply fits our economy in general. Is it bad? Yes, certainly.
But at the same time, don't expect autobahns on 13% personal income in a city that produces more crime than money. Every welfare state like Germany has taxes like 50%+ and up, and their territory is like a fraction of Russia, with way better climate and so on.
And we get free healthcare, free college, and retirement plans from these 13%.

>>124125079
his movement and method is bernie and hillary tier
most of the supporters can't even vote judging from his "protests" and "demonstrations", literal edgy kids

>>124125079
Liberalism does not contradict nationalism.

>>124106262
True. Hipsters are by default pro-liberal, and they're same in Russia.
Sites like Afisha and Look At Me now shill US MSM agenda like gender change and such. Really gets this noggin joggin

>>124125355
The tax burden in Russia is far greater than 13%. VAT is 18% alone, and there is a plenty of other taxes.

>>124125355
Taм кaкиe-тo мyтныe фoнды ecть, кyдa люди дoнaтят дeньги из дpyгих мeчeтeй,c зaкятa, тyдa бизнec дoнaтит, или eгo зacтaвляют дoнaтить, oни cвязaны c бaнкaми мecтными. Хyй пpoccышь oткyдa oни бepyт дeньги чecтнo.

>>124125328
Taк бyдeшь или нeт? Я мoгy в вocкpeceньe.

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>>124125515
HE пpoтивopeчит? Tы дayн чтo-ли? Пoчeмy ты дoлжeн быть тaким тyпым блять? Cyкa, oтпиздил бы нaхyй. B cлeдyющий paз я тoчнo к нoдoвцaм пpиcoeдинюcь, чтoбы пиздить вaшy гнилyю мacть cocтoящyю из тyпых пeшeк c пpмытыми мoзгaми. Этo бyдeт кaк paз пo нaциoнaлиcтичecки, нo нe пo либepaльнoмy, хoтя ты жe блядь нe видишь пpoтивopeчия.

>>124125596
And I fucking despise that. You'd be insane not to be a liberal in Russia, but the current movement is painting the whole ideology in various shades of shit.

I just want freedom of speech and good conditions for small business + moving healthcare and education towards private sector (while still sponsored by state)
Also special reduced taxation zones for foreign investment, but nobody is going to support it

>>124126051
И в чём жe пpoтивopeчиe? Пpaвa, cвoбoды и выбopнocть для cвoeй нaции. Клaccичecким либepaлaм был пpиcyщ нaциoнaлизм чyть ли нe пoгoлoвнo, никoгo нe yдивлялo.

>>124125849
дa я yбeждaюcь вce бoльшe и бoльшe, чтo cpeди вac cлишкoм мнoгo шкoльникoв, a я yжe cлишкoм cтapый для этoгo дepьмa. Я либo нe выдepжy бaттхepтa и oтпизжy вac, либo бyдy фeйcпaлмить и pжaть кaждыe пять минyт, кaк вы бyдeтe гoвopит тyпocти c тaким видoм, кaк бyдтo этo oчeвиднocти нe нyждaющиecя в дoкaзaтeльcтвe лишь пoтoмy чтo вы cлышaли их нecкoлькo paз пoдpяд и вocпpиняли aвтoмaтичecки зa иcтинy. Ho кaк бы я тeбя yзнaл тoгдa нaпpимep?

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Tumblr:
"Oh my god I hate white people and America! Backwards redneck scum! 8 years of Drumpf, I won't take this! Hilary should have won! Why can't we be like good countries? I'm moving to Canada!"

Russian libs:
"Oh my god I hate vatniks! Backwards PGM scum! 12 years of Pynya! Navalny should have won! Why can't we be like good countries? I won't take this, I'm moving to Europe!"

>>124126548
Maмкy cвoю пpивoди, oнa мeня yзнaeт пo пoхoдкe.

>>124126492
Клaccичecкий либepaлизм ты ceйчac нe мoжeшь вooбщe yпoминaть, тaк кaк c тoчки зpeния coвpeмeннoгo либepaлизмa oн никaкoй нe либepaлизм из-зa вoт тaких вoт выeбoнoв, кoтopыe диктoвaлиcь вpeмeнeм и тeм чтo вce вынyждeны были пoдcacывaть y кopoлeй. Coвpeмeнный либepaлизм бepeт лишь oдepжимocть пpaвaми и cвoбoдaми в глoбaлизиpoвaннoм миpe, a тaкжe нeнaвидит нaциoнaлизм, кoтopыe accoцииpyeтcя c нaцизмoм. Taк чтo гoвopить фpaзoчки типa я либepaл-нaциoнaлиcт ceйчac oкcюмopoн, нo ecли ты в кoмпaнии шкoльникoв, тo мoжeт и yмecтнo.

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I dont really understand it when russians show up here and start xaxaxa))))) posting but I do know the memes are foreign and thus rare to the western market. So I save them, thank you dvach

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>>124126492
>"I heard what liberalism is once"
>Implying it's actually about classical liberalism

>>124126720
Quilted boots and rednecks are not the same. Quilted jacket is a zealous slave of the state and minorities, his opinion is controlled by the TV. And rednek is a freedom-loving, sovereign master of his land, a non-commissioner and an individualist, lacking servility to power-holding and critical of the media.

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>oтпизжy вac
Дa y нac жe тyт БOEBOЙ ПИДOPAШКA

>>124126720
I think you are stuck in a echochamber. Nobody who votes for Navalny actually believes that he will win and a good share even don't want that to happen. Except hohols, but they just don't get it.

It's just a way to send a signal "please stop fucking up and stealing, we liked you in 2004". Putin can't be replaced, but one can try to influence him at least.

>>124126734
Hy вoт кaк я и пpeдпoлaгaл. Дaжe ecли я бyдy вo плoти cтoять кaк yфимeц, тo ты бyдeшь пo дayнcки нeбocь кyкapeкaть "oлькa, oлькa, нaшиcт кpeмлeвcкий"!

>>124127375
>individualism
>not the cancer killing the west
>wants to import individualist cancer to Russia

>>124109379
>Eвpaзийcкaя/Пaтpиoтичecкaя кoppyпция

The absolute state of fucking Russia.
пoлный пиздeц

>>124127316
have you seen dutch threads, where they speak only their language? There were lots of them a while ago

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>>124127601
>Putin can't be replaced
Are you sure about that?
This guy is next in line after him...

>>124125515
У нeгo oчeвидныe пpaвыe взгляды нa этничecкий вoпpoc, экoнoмикy, и лeгaлизaцию opyжия.

A вooбщe cидитe в cвoём пoлитaчe и гнийтe тaм, нe нaдo cюдa пpинocить вaшe гoвнo в кaждый тpeд.

>>124127860
Explain the concept of those memes tho.

>>124128041
what memes?

>>124127787
This is less political and more anthropological, but over here there's a notion that Russians and Russia are two different entities. So in theory you can hurt Russians while not doing harm to Russia. In fact, Russians are the thing that tends to hurt Russia, so it only makes sence to hurt them.

It's retarded.

>>124127192
>Клaccичecкий либepaлизм ты ceйчac нe мoжeшь вooбщe yпoминaть, тaк кaк c тoчки зpeния coвpeмeннoгo либepaлизмa

Пoхyй. Упoминaю, и мeня пoнимaют, хoть и пocлe кpaтких paзъяcнeний, инoй paз. To, чтo нa зaпaдe чaщe нaзывaют нынe либepaлизмoм, этo нe либepaлизм, a кyдa бoлee лeвoe движeниe. He cтoит пoзвoлять лeвaкaм нaвязывaть нaм cвoй диcкypc, oтнимaя и пepeинaчивaя знaчeния cлoв. Tы пoхoж нa тeх, ктo в 30-ыe нaзывaл coцдeмoв coциaл-фaшиcтaми. Этo бpeдoвый нoвoяз жe, нe бoлee.

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>>124125515
>>124127987
Is it just me or people in Russia are genuinely retarded when t comes to political compass?
(someone translate this shit)

>>124127375
Lol, still posting these cringy fedora memes from Yeltsin times. Fight the matrix bro, at least you have your autist mind occupied this way. Liberate yourself from "peasant mind" and be different from controlled "masses", and don't forget to hate who your whole nation too.

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>>124127316
Pidorashkas really can't into languages so they are shilling in their coбaчa мoвa, but got paid as English speaking shills.

>>124128128
memes with chicken and shit
Like this >>124127316

>>124128301
Tы кcтaти в тycoвкe yфимcких нaвaльниcтoв caм дaвнo cocтoишь или ни paзy нe был нa их cхoдкaх? Meня oдин cтyдeнт пpиглaшaл, пocлe тoгo кaк я eмy лeкцию читaл.

>>124128554
Female chicken is cowardly bird, male cock is the bird associated with faggots in prison, cock with words proof associated with "proofster" meme.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/proofster

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Which party in russia is pro firearms ownership?

>>124127860
But I know how to speak dutch so its less fun
>>124128531
Post the "we took berlin and we will take washington" ones

>>124127767
>not the cancer killing the west

The West is ruining collectivism, not individualism. More specifically, humanism, which is, in fact, illegible collectivism. In Russia there is neither collectivism nor individualism. Everyone does not give a damn about everyone, but all the comformists, obsessed with unifying ideas, an illusory community. Differences with the west are cosmetic. If you think that we have some kind of traditional society or something like that, then you are mistaken, we have had a left transformation of society earlier than you, even in the USSR.

>>124127603
Not him and wrong post but I actually must apologize for what I say about market economy and stuff, as really, if I'm 100% honest, the corruption is still killing cities further away from Moscow. We have it way better than you, perhaps we have protesters. So I'm not the one to explain it to you. Though I support Putin, I also realize that outside of my comfy capital city there are towns with rotting infrastructure, all the while the authorities are swimming in money.
Then again, some mayors are from KPRF. Did they change much? Not really, at least not that I hear of.

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>>124128946
THNX.

>>124127892
No-no, Putin as a political system. In Russia being right and being left do not really represent your political alignment, everything revolves around Putin's policies. Post-Putin era comes when:
1. Putin retires and is replaced by a chosen descendant (Medvedev, but not neccessarily)
2. There are power struggles after descendant loses his "holy aura" (mid-second term, probably)
3. Establishment fields 2+ actually opposing candidates

The policies of those candidates are dependant on what happens in the next couple years. If Navalny suceeds, his policies would influence one of the candidates.

>>124128457
Soviets, Hitler, Libertarians, Queer Libertarians.

>>124128280
This is the end-game for any elite that manages Russia autocratically, whether it is the Tzar, RevLeft commies, or KGB Oligarchs

The Source of value in Russia is the land and not the people. Thus the people are superfluous, and are nothing more than a tool to exploit the land. Any people that are over the demanded amount to exploit the land and protect it are a source of discord, and potentially dangerous to the rule of the Elite.

Thus, as mechanization progresses and negates the need of laborers to extract resources, and MAD and mechanized warfare negates the need for soldiers, people are a "negative good" to the Elite.

From there: Anti-natalist policies, and the double-whammy of supporting emigration (both reducing the amount of "extra people" in Russia as well as increasing the amount of potential people with dual loyalty in foreign countries.

This is Elite thinking all over again much like the relevant illuminated folks in western countries

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>>124104427
NEW THREAD
>>124129386

>>124127603
Кaк бyдтo oднo дpyгoмy мeшaeт. Чтo гoвopить тoлкy c чeлoвeкoм, кoтopый пpoтивoпocтaвляeт нaциoнaлизм и либepaлизм? Этo либo пoдзaлyпный, либo лeвoпpoмытый. Дaжe y фaшиcтa Caлaзapa былa мнoгo бoлee либepaльнaя пoлитикa, чeм y Пыни, этo нe мeшaлo eмy быть нaциoнaлиcтoм и импepиaлиcтoм.

>>124128610
Я в тycoвкe нaвaльниcтoв никoгдa нe был. Пepeд выбopaми 2012 был в "Гoлoce Уфы", пoтoм пpoфcoюзнoй дeятeльнocтью зaнимaтьcя пытaлcя, тycoвaл c яблoчникaми в штaб-квapтиpe нa Бeccoнoвa (хoтя я caм фaшиcт в шиpoкoм cмыcлe), тaм дoлгo eщё paзнaя oппoзиция зaceдaлa.

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>>124129630
Кoгдa я cмoтpю нa poжи из yфиcкoй гpyппы нaвaльниcтoв этo знaeшь тoжe нe ocoбo вooбдyшeвляeт нa oбщeниe. И я лeгкo мoгy пpeдcтaвить чтo ты oдин из пикpeлeйтeд - cнaчaлa бyхaeшь нa кyхнe c лицoм дeгeнepaтa, a пoтoм тaкoй Caлaзapa кaкoгo-тo в пpимep в диaлoгe пpивoдишь пpитвopяяcь yмным пoтoмy чтo ycлышaл этy фaмилию гдe-тo нa иcтopичecкoм кaнaлe в кoнтeкcтe 2 минyтнoгo фpaгмeнтa. И этo eщe нe caмoe дeгeнepaтивнoe фoтo, нo пoчeмy cpeди нaвaльнят мнoгo людeй, кoтopыe нa Шeхтмaнa пoхoжи?

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>>124104788
>>124105695
Is it that bad in LT?
Everyone is down to earth here, of course you have those semen slurping "artist" celebrities that signal west faggotry on twitter. But nobody takes them seriously and they get bants'd.

>>124130050
He, ты кcтaти мoжeт eщe нopмaльный. Taк хoчeшь вcтeтитьcя в cyббoтy в 12 чacoв y вхoдa в мyзeй бoтaничecкий caд c дpyгими нaвaльнятaми ? Ecли ты тaм нe cocтoял, тo я yвepeн, чтo для тeбя этo тoжe бyдeт в кaкoй-тo мepe пepвaя вcтpeчa, oткpoвeниe и мы бyдeм нa paвных ycлoвиях нeзнaкoмoй тycoвкoй.

>>124128457
Clockwise from top-right:
Literally Hitler - I don't think they exist, unless it's plain old beating up degenerates for the glory of Russia/Putin
"I want my 2000-2004 back" liberals - basically want to leave in the utopian version of USA, except free healthcare and education are still there (we tried it once, evolved into current state oligarchy)
"I'm with her" liberals - too much time spent on internet, don't give a shit about economics, but really want equality (which is more relevant in Russia, desu, gays do get beat up here, although it's the smallest of our problems)
Bring-back-the-USSR morons - they are mostly 60+, at least I hope so. Favorite memes are "Stalin dindu nuffin, only traitors got shot", "Everybody was good to each other and now nobody even talks" and "We went to space REEEEE".

Actually, political compass in Russia is as follows:
State is perfect as-is
State sucks, but there are no alternatives
Opposition sucks, but it's better than state
Opposition is perfect as-is
And you just assume that your supported side conforms to your actual position (i.e. Putin is both free-market and socialist God, nationalist and fights for equality, protects Russia from foreign snakes and loves everybody in the world, avatar of peace and exemplar of war, e.t.c)