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German Streamers require license to stream €1000-€10.000

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http://www.esports-news.co.uk/2017/03/27/german-streamers-require-license/

Germany will require Streamers on Twitch, Youtube etc. to aquire a broadcasting license similar to Radio and TV stations.
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>>120452862
Don't call it a dystopia.
Call it the future you chose.
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Good, it brings money to the state to fund arts and media incentives. Should be done throughout Europe and the United States. Also filters out bad and dangerous political views.
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>>120452862

Government fags going to government every single fucking time.
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>>120453071
This is the truth desu.
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>>120452862

more money for refugees
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>>120452862
This is good. It's about time these lawless businesses that are Youtube and Twitch get some capitalism.
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>>120453071

Nice bait.
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>>120452862
Good, can't wait they do the same world wide, time these faggots get a real job. Same goes for the whores who stream with the cam on their boobs.
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>>120452862
they do this so they can revoke them if you say something bad
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>>120453006
this
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>>120453071
>Good, it brings money to the state to fund arts and media incentives

So the money goes to jews with government tenure?
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>less cancerous "stream" cucks
>implying this is a bad idea

Only possible downside is that the licensing (((fees))) will to go (((refugees))).
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>>120453071
fuck twitch whores and streamers, tax them into oblivion
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>>120452862
Germany is absolute cancer when it comes to such shit. You buy a monitor or tv? Well? Well you have to pay gez because you might be able to watch the state tv channel. You buy an usb stick? Pay gema as you might could store music on it which already payed for but we dont care. Just pay more. Oh a new pc that has access to the internet? Well, guess you have to pay more gez as you can watch tv and hear radio over the internet. Fuck this shit. I hope they just boycott it and keep going without paying
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>faggot twitch streamers now have to pay a small royalty for stealing all the little kiddie money

Good

>Some twitch streamers are going to go goobergate

Bad
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>>120452862
>Germany will require Streamers on Twitch, Youtube etc. to aquire a broadcasting license similar to Radio and TV stations.

They tried to call computers a TV here to justify billing everyone with "a device capable of viewing TV". This obviously to make up the slack when a whole generation abandons TV and state funded broadcasting in particular.

Good news: it went to the supreme court and was rejected. It was outside the scope of the law.

It makes complete sense that legacy media would push the governments to curbstomp new media like this. The question is if they can make it legal in the long end. Wait for the courts.
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MEDDL LOIDE
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>>120453457
>>120453395
This
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>>120453630
What'st he music in the background, Ahmed?
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>>120452862
Oh boy can't wait for German videogame streamers to start handing out redpills to their audiences.
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COMMUNISM YES
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>>120453071
unironically a faggot shill in 2017, kys
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>>120452862
hahaha
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>>120452862
yay censorship
and you cucks won't lift a finger to fight it
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>>120452862
>Cuckmany
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>>120452862
HAHAHA

ON WHAT GROUNDS?

RADIO COMMUNICATIONS REQUIRE LICENSE BECAUSE FREQUENCY BANDWIDTH IS A COMMODITY YOU LITERALLY RENT WITH YOUR LICENCE.

WHAT ARE YOU PAYING FOR/RENTING WITH YOUR STREAMING LICENSE?

HAHAHAHAHAHA GERMANS KILL YOURSELVES!!
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Germany's cuckoldry never seizes to amaze me...
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>>120452862
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Best part, that guy looks like a liberal cuck. Maybe not a full blown sjw, but probably someone who supported Hillary, supports refugees, bigger taxes and wants all around a bigger government. Jokes on you, fag.
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Do these dumb fucking krauts even know what BROADCASTING means?
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>>120453874
you cant even get a travel ban going despite access to free speech and trump in office
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I thought radio licences existed because of the limited number of radio waves and infrastructure maintenance, what the hell does that have to do with foreign websites?
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>>120453071
>Good, it brings money to the state to fund (((arts))) and (((media))) incentives
FTFY
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>>120453912
You have to pay to be able to present your opinions to others
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>>120454005
You are renting the opportunity to voice your opinion :^)
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Do they get a discount for every muslim penis they suck during a livestream?
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>>120453071
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>>120452862
Good. Watching other people play video games is for bluepilled man children. read a book goys
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Fuck this shit I will vote FDP now

Drachenlord > the future of Germany
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Holy shit! How long until this starts to happen in the US?

YouTube and Twitch built on the back of content creators -- thanks for the platform, dumb-asses

(sponsored by Citibank)
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>>120454005
>>120454135
Because liberal governments must expand to control and tax everything.
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>>120453071
>its okay to rob people as long as you preface your statement with "lol it wlil funds teh arts xD"

fuck off.
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>>120452862
>Twitch is the only way to stream on the internet
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>>120454244
*within the confines of legal opinions™
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lmfao YES
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>>120454092
That guy is part of a 5 man crew. From what i can say all pretty bluepilled, but have his heart on the right place. 2 of those are absolute cancer whenever they get to discuss anything political. He at least defended pewdiepie for example and said its bullshit how its blown out of proportion, the other 2 or at least on of them thought its justified
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What the fuck can their government do about it if the servers aren't even there.
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>>120453071
>bad and dangerous political views
Fuck yourself with a kazoo, nigger.
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>>120452862
the extent of the censorship in germany is truly terrifying
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>>120453071
kek
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>>120454291
>people getting raped and murdered in the street
has less impact to change your opinon then
>some faggot streamer has to pay a penalty

How jewish is the Germanic population?
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>>120452862
>>120453630
How are you guys above us in the freedom of press index? It doesn't make any sense.
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Germany is like if EasyJet was a country
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>>120453493
This
They add nothing to society, sit on their ass all day trying to make a living off gibs from retards who are actually fooled into "supporting the channel" and give a shit example to youth by dropping all their actually useful skills and whoring themselves to the public.

Fuck Twitch and fuck streamers. Bunch of whores!
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>>120454766
Surprising new poll in DDR shows 100% freedom and 100% approval of leaders
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>>120452862
Couldn't they just not pay it? What are they going to do, shut down the internet?
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>>120454495
This has nothing to do with censorship though.
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>>120453071
Found the jew
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>>120454766
because stuff like that is virtue signalling and is run by a process that the FBI label as racketeering.

there are too many other big fish to fry
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>>120452862
OMG PETER VON PIETSMIET DAS ICH DEN HIER ERLEBE OMG PETER DU BIST DER BESTE
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>>120454495
This has nothing to do with censorship AT ALL:
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>>120454959
>Couldn't they just not pay it?
You really don't understand German mentality
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>>120452862
Pay up, Hans, your country has a lot of hungry mouths to feed.

How's that whole socialism working out for you?
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what if they use a vpn ? just ditch the german accent and not say you're from gemany
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>>120452862
Need more money for the gibs.
Sweden is getting a 25% tax on electronic devices soon.
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>>120455067
all they Need to do is get a host in russia that claimes they run the channel and they are just "guest"
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>>120454959
They'll start a collection process
Like what happens when you don't pay your taxes
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>>120455067
Channel is going to be shut down by GEMA.
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>>120454973
>>120455034
I wish I was this bluepilled
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>>120454871
And to add to this: There are quite a lot of wellfare streamers out there. I truly hope those parasites get busted and their welfare incomes taken away from them.
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>>120453006
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>>120452862
basically a form of economic censorship
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>>120454735
well it doesnt affect me as much cause I dont go outside anyways
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>>120455277
ist censorship they are just mad because in Germany channels like MUH ALEX JONES are rising and they cant stop them.
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>>120452862

>Recalling past days when three television channels delivered fact-based news that most people trusted, Obama said democracy require citizens to be able to sift through lies and distortions.

"We are going to have to rebuild within this wild-wild-west-of-information flow some sort of curating function"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BikQFWNYct4&feature=youtu.be&t=3538

58:56
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>>120453371
t. Jealous Calzone
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>>120452862
the eternal german cuck strikes again. fat living subsidies will be provided until every ethnic german is dead.
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>>120452862
Same happens in Lithuanian when some guy started making antigoverment content on youtube, thank god our people called our government retarded so it cool now, everything back to normal.

Too bad the same won't happen in germoney, since Germans are bunch of cucks. Tough luck, germananons.
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Lmao
>stream the vid
>pay the yid
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>>120453071
>>120453321
>>120453470(jew)
>>120453611

fucking KILL yourselves
>>120453493
>>120454277
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yet somehow people think , its the jews is a meme , germany clearly has shown us time and time again it aint.

cleansing when.
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>>120454051
Amazing apu, mind if I save it?
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>>120452862
In other news, all the big german streamers are moving to Austria...
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>>120452862
>according to this reddit post
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>>120452862
If we don't get rid of Trudeau he'll do it here too. Liberals absolutely HATE free speech and democracy.
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>>120452862

Wont they just rent a vm out of the country and stream from that?
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>>120452862
I go back and forth on Germans.

On one hand, every time I talk to one you're assholes, especially about Brexit, but on the other hand, I still have a bit of sympathy for those Germans who were born into this, and have little or no say in their government which is becoming increasingly despotic in every way.

This is obviously a huge fucking over reach by the government and has little to no legal basis. The internet is not the radio. Putting videos up on YouTube does not require a license. Streaming on YouTube does not require a license.

This is simply an incredibly greedy government seeing a private business and deciding that instead of letting their citizens profit from it, they see something successful and immediately think "How can we best exploit this to get money for the state?"

I might understand if they were telling twitch that they will have to pay some kind of fee to host German streamers, and then twitch ends up having to shift some of the cost onto those streamers in some way, but this is simply finding new things to tax your citizens for. I really doubt streamers make enough to not be taking huge losses from this tax.
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>>120455219
You're a retard. Again, this has nothing to do with censorship, but with media companies having a strong enough lobby to demand a cut when their content gets shared. Been like that for ages when it comes to music, as soon as you publish any clip longer than 30 seconds they will knock at your door and demand their cut. It's a huge business obviously and they are actively searching for sheep to milk. Now it moves on to video games since those have become mainstream enough to promise profits.
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>>120452862
Good, streams are cancer.
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>>120452862
Good.

I know a couple of grill streamers from university and fuck em and their titty bonus . Time to find a real job bitches.
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>>120452862
To have control over who can stream.
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>>120454871
>what is entertainment?

I don't like watching xX_le_edgy_guy_Xx stream league of legends but who really cares if someone else does like it? I mean really?
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>>120452862
Loving the idea. I hope it spreads globally.
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>>120452862
i wonder who's responsible for this
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its ok germany, when the muslims finally take over your country you can bring your hot beer sluts and yourselves over to the land of the burger
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>>120453071
Im ok with it if it means end of "career" for hundreds of 12yo kids playing lol on twitch
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>>120455143
>don't use face cam
>don't use your real name
>take donations through paypal

How would they ever know who you are? It's not like with a radio or television station where they know where the signal is coming from.
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>>120453071
>draining funds from arts and media to fund arts and media
Gave me a good ol chuckle, 6/7 deeper than expected
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>>120455923
ever considered it's BOTH?
getting money for gibs
AND
taking away your freedom of speech
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>>120455274
We're living in a Brave New World though
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>>120453071

huehue
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>>120455063
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>>120455611
t. butthurt streamer
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>twitch

taxing cancer makes sense desu
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gotta fund those new germans somehow :^)
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>>120456238
IP address
Unless you use a VPN and then you get shut down by GEMA
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>>120456454
>brazil

try not to get kidnapped and tortured/beheaded by a butterknife next time you go out for milk
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Wow, didn't know so many people on /pol/ hate the free market.
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>>120456963
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Misinformed clickbait shit. There's this one (1) let's play group which and our federal media agency got a complaint about, so they were forced to check applicable law and because they stream literally 24/7 with a fixed schedule and make millions doing so and basically fit every single requirement to the letter, there was no way around making them get that broadcasting license. Which was a puny 1200 bucks including lawyer expenses and what not, no idea where the 10k figure is from.

Said federal media agency also went out of their way to give a statement saying they don't give a fuck about streamers, won't undergo steps to pursue them unless forced to and think that those particular laws are in need of overhaul
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>>120452862
At this point Merkel & Co deserves to be impaled on the stakes or whatever else your sick mind wants.
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Really tackling the important issues. What a shit country. I want to move to Burgeria.
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Based Germany killing off the most cancerous thing to happen to gaming.
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>>120452862
This wont be a popular opinion on 4chan but white manlets are too addicted to computers, games and instant porn. Vr was supposed to help us transcend the technology but we ignored or feared it for too long and we're stuck getting fat at desks.
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germany is always looking for new ways to fuck everybody.
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>>120456663
The only people who would have the IP address would be Twitch, and I doubt they'd be likely to release it. It's not like the German government has any leverage on them to make them release the info. They could just say no and Germany wouldn't be able to do shit.
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>>120457532
Twitch is owned by Amazon and Amazon dosen't give a shit
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>>120457137
Why do they have to pay the German government for the use of twitch/youtubes servers?
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>>120457532
yeah just like with gema
no wait
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>>120457726
>>120457137
wtf is wrong with people. "hurr durr twitch should have to pay this not streamers". wtf? no one should have to pay anything. this isn't even suitable for a broadcasting license, there's no limited spectrum issues.
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>>120453071
Agreed
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>>120452862
get fucked germaniggers.

gotta pay for ahmeds new computer somehow right?
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>>120453071
fuck off bernie you senile cunt
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>>120458060
>no one should have to pay anything
Copyright. Some companies don't mind and realize it's free advertisement, others get greedy and want a cut.
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>>120452862
Welp, there is goes ESL or Major ever being hosted in Europe ever again
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This is the greatest thing to happen in entertainment in a long time.

I cant fucking stand Youjewers and Twitch streamers.

I dont understand how people find SCREAMING AT THE COMPUTER SO FUNNNNNNNAY!
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>>120458464
What a pity!
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>>120453071
>implying it isn't there to partially fund the next ""refugee"" wave that's coming after the election later this year
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>>120458563
t. Ahmed al Muhamad
It is not my fault you can't enjoy E-sports
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>>120455386
Please explain to me how that's not censorship.
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>the thread that finally makes you realise that there are genuine eu shills on /pol/

So its NOT just one autistic fucking German posting every thread about Britain having apparently become a barren wasteland since passing the referendum to leave the EU.
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>>120453071
top cuck
kek
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>>120458464
Come to the UK, friends.
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>>120452862
Hopefully this will even the playing field a bit. We don't have the same fabulous welfare packages of Europeans so we can't win anything in eSports. If some of them need to retire or become US citizens we might have a chance again.
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>>120455067
german state doesnt fuck around if you are white and evading taxes and shit

Uli Hoeneß former President of Bayern Munich and football world cup Winner ( so basically the most popular thing anyone could be in this cunt) was sentenced to 3 years in prison a few years ago for avoiding taxes

meanwhile refugees steal billions from the state, rape and kill people and dont even get prison time
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>>120453071
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>>120459158
Are you trying to defend that faggot? Tax evasion is a serious crime, taxes pay for my welfare after all.
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>>120457726
It's nothing but a processing fee because supposedly licensing a tv or radio station is actually a very costly process. Checking the frequencies you broadcast on, reviewing the content, appoint people to make sure you fit certain guidelines and what not. The state is not "earning" off of them, just trying to get them to adhere to, for example, laws of child protection, gambling, you know stuff that's actually relevant when you have a 24/7 broadcast where you buy csgo lootcrates and shit
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>>120453071
>1 post by this OY d
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>>120457138
This.
This shit only make me understand the reichburgers a lot more.
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>>120454843

Have you made sure to pay for your TV licence this month Nigel?
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>>120452862
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

holy fuck how can a single country be so SHIT
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>>120459501
backpedaling because your country squeezes every shekel out of you it can.
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>>120455923
>this has nothing to do with censorship
but it can have something to do with censorship if they refuse to give you a license, right?
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>>120452862
Germanistan worst country on earth
How did things go so wrong
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>>120456713
>USA
Try not to shit yourself the next time you go to Walmart to get milk.
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>>120453071
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>>120459855
Sure. Doens't change the fact that this is about money, not censorship.
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>>120459776
I'm not backpedaling on anything? Not that I ever wanted to say this is not retarded but the fuss this article makes about it and how much people here are buying into it is ridiculous
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>>120455923
>say something big brother government doesnt like
>(((broadcasting licence))) gets revoked
Yeah totally not censorship. Nope, no way
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>>120457137
1€ into your account, Sören.

dont listen to >>120457137, hes a desperate gov shill
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>>120459999
beheaded/pricey milk? I don't think that argument works well.
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>>120452862
They make them buy a license so they can revoke that license.. this is to avoid more pewdiepies
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Should have been done ages ago. Im tired of seeing people making millions by playing video games all day like a bunch of herbs.
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clickbait sensationalism bullshit cuck right propaganda

this is just a bunch of lies stapled onto the fact that pietsmiet.de has to pay a license because he is broadcasting 24/7

but hey you shits will eat up anything as long as it fits your "who am I going to yell "cuck" at today?" narrative
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>>120455063
>How's that whole socialism working out for you?

pretty good i guess
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>>120452862
twitch is degenerate anyway
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Them Germans really know how to prevent wrong opinions. :-)
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>>120460156
Show me a case where that happened and I'll listen to you.
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>>120452862
is it possible to use a foreign server to fuck this stupid law?
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>>120460443
>pietsmiet.de has to pay a license because he is broadcasting 24/7
Why?
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>>120453371
>Same goes for the whores who stream with the cam on their boobs
they'll just pay it dude. those whores make bank. Its even better with less competition.
I wish I was a woman.
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Germans will defend absolutely everything this garbage state pulls off, as you can see ITT
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As long as I love twitch fags getting BTFO, this seems quite dumb
>put content on the internet
>totally okay
>that content is a picture from your webcam that is updated multiple times a second
>have to pay $1000
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>all these cucked Germans defending this ITT instead of contacting their government representatives
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>>120455420
>wild-wild-west-of-information flow

Too much of that freedom isn't good for you goy.

You need "curated speech".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AXmUbd9lDY
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>>120452862
They're trying to classify PCs and Mobile devices as televisions here so they can put a tax every month on them. They won't get a cent off me. Irish television is utter trash. They can fuck off.
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>>120460901
The content is from copyrighted videogames, though.
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>>120454340
This shit would never fly in the US, streaming is way too fucking big of a hobby that's been going on for fucking years for free for them to start adding a license fee.
No one would take that shit lying down
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germans will pay like the good cucks they are.
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>>120461340
Does Germany have no concept of Fair Use?
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Keep in mind not every Twitch streamer makes money. When this happens to Youtube, no one will be laughing.
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>>120461548
this
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>>120460759
because he falls into already existing definitions of a public broadcaster
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>>120461559
We used to. For example, back in the 80s it was completely legal to make personal copies of VHS tapes or music you rented. Lobbyists didn't like that and laws got changed.
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>>120460443
No one should have to pay money to the government to stream on the internet.
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>>120453071
>Good, it brings money to the state to fund arts and media incentives.


Isn't that what taxes are for? In case that isn't enough, let's charge them 1,000-10,000 euro just to fucking start a stream!

Nothing says incentivize like charging them thousands for a fucking hobby....

Sometimes i take being American for granted but then i just load up the internet and realize how cucked Europe and the rest of the world is.
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>>120452862
need mo money fo dem refugee programs!
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>>120461727
Don't laugh. You know something like it is going to happen to us soon enough.
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the levels of cuck are unbelievable. I'm putting Germany ahead of Sweden now in my cuck rankings
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>>120460225
>>120460888
Ist hier auf einmal jeder zum Reichsbürger mutiert oder was, das ist ja peinlich. Der Artikel ist voller Scheiße, die haben die Hälfte eiskalt erfunden, aber Ami-Medien sind immernoch besser als Lügenpresse wa :^)
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>>120461825
Literally the most cucked country in the world is right above us. It's just a matter of time until we get cucked too.
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>>120462006
>aber Ami-Medien sind immernoch besser als Lügenpresse wa :^)

jep
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>>120461984
At that rate they'll catch you
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>>120452862
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fucking German cucks!
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>>120458980
Yeh sure, jewresa may isn't watching this thinking 'what a great idea'! Beeb is about to blow a load all the way to mars with this plan.
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>>120453630
>>120453557
What is it with these kikes, they tried the same shit here. Rising prices of ALL electronics 2% for mandatory "royalty music" tax. People were furious.
They actually have squads of their own goons that go shop to shop, checking if there's a radio playing. If the owner doesn't pay for their imaginary licence fees he's fined to oblivion. It's like the fucking telly police brits run into.
"Society of Authors and Composers" they call it. And they will collect royalties regardless if you're a part of it or not. Or if you upload your music for free on soundcloud.
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>>120462244
Careful. You might get a knock on your door for hate speech
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DELETE THIS
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>>120460285
>>120460285
>>120460285
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I kinda agree with this move - why should they not pay when they do the same as radio/tv hosts? America needs to adopt this.
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>tfw rogue pirate broadcasts will be a thing in your lifetime
we cyberpunkdystopia now
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>>120452862
Besides of course milking the population Im certain this is actually about censoring live reporting for alternative media sources that arent "established" earners of course to protect their opinion making monoply and literally destroy the competition destroying their add revenue.
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>>120463809
The radio hosts don't have to pay $1000 to appear on radio. They get paid to do it and the radio station pays the fees required to transmit radio. Its twitch that should be asking to pay tb.h

(Livestreamers are 99,99% cancer though so I sorta support this)
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>>120464173
>opinion making monoply

On video games?
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>>120452862
fucking cunts need to get the money from somewhere to pay namibia and welfare for the shitskins they're importing. those fuckers in the german government are going to drain the population anyway they can.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/05/germany-sued-forgotten-genocide-namibia-herero-nama

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/2017/03/20/namibia-will-seek-30-billion-from-germany-for-genocide-reparati_a_21903132/
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>>120463809
>why should they not pay when the monopolize and milk other media already?

t.shlomo shekelstein
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>>120464579
Licenses only apply to streaming video games?
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>>120452862
The law which this is based on is pretty tight in its definition.
For example, this addresses streams which are non-interactive ("audience has no influence on time or content of the broadcast")

Various other qualifiers apply. It will be easy for individual streamers to fight it.
Overall, I'm looking forward to a bunch of our harder hitting guys drumming together the others for a class action lawsuit, challenging the general definition established here.
Streamers who fulfill all criteria needed for this law are not the norm, but the exception.

But yea. I'm sure some idiots are going to panic and pay or stop streaming minecraft or whatever.
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>>120464579
>look at me Im pretending to be retarded everything if fine

Fuck off GEMA
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>>120452862
There's literally no reason for remaining in this cancerous nation. If you got a good degree, you leave.
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>>120453071
Can't wait to pay your internet shitposting license to post on 4chan with your radio equipment, burger?
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>>120464973
>you leave.

Where though? I thought about Australia myself
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>>120453071
They should also funnel some of that money to those refugee camps, those peaceful migrants aren't going to feed themselves
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>>120452862

I don't know why faggots are shitting on Twitch.

Its not full Red Pill, but its generally right of center.

This is clearly going to be used to censor people with the "wrong" (right wing) opinions.

Also, why the fuck does anyone here want more money sent to leftist State Propaganda?
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actually they should PAY the streamers Presseförderung/ governental press support for adding to diversity
instead they tax them into oblivion

informational diversity and plenty of differnet opinions isn't something Germany strives for it seems
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>>120453557
That's the exact same thing in France.
I would even say we are much worse than you, our governments are genius when it comes to invent taxes, they literally invented a tax when your pay already a lot of taxe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_tax_on_wealth
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Does this mean I cant live of 8 year olds anymore??
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>>120464928
The problem with any of these bullshit shill arguments about "yeah the law isnt so bad yet and there are these limitiations and qualifiers and lets not forget... and not that many will be affected fellow goyim" that always appear with these kind of topics, will allways be that any law always just tries to get its feet into your door first being passed and once its in there they push more and more after and make it worse.
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>>120452862
>lots of examples of government abuse of power
>but my special kind of goverenment will work!
Grow up and vote for less government.
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>>120453071
Top tier B8.
9.8/10 My hats off to you.
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>>120452862
>want to share non-kosher opinions to a lot of people?
>too bad lol pay me money
Just don't do it, and tar&feather any fucker that tries to make you pay.
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>>120460000
He Has Spoken!
Also Chequed
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>>120452862

get the fuck rid of merkel in september then, or become New Mecca
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>>120465602
>>120465602
you can still sell them if they enter your country as unregistered refugees
tho having a youtubechannel sounds a lot better
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>>120453071
Here's another (You) for your collection friendo :^)
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>>120453071
((( They ))) don't even try anymore
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>>120464928
Wouldn't you be able to circumvent the law by having a remote machine in an another country do the actual livestreaming and you're just using a program like skype to initiate a private video call with you and the remote machine?
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>>120464928
Alternatively, you could *not* have the law and be free to do what you want. Don't forget that.
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>>120452862
>>120452862
>>120452862
HAHAHAHAHA


AHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHHAHAHAHAH

FUCKING HAHAHAHAH
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>>120455123
From the firsth of April, aint it implemented already?
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>>120452862
and why is this a bad thing?
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Rothschild Europe is now the evil empire.
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>>120452862
>LICENSE
Of course so WRONG opinions wont get out. Especially the POOR opinions that might not have money for the license.

Fucking amaizng.
How do the jews do it

every single time
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>>120466394
The law already exists, they're just trying to push the old radio/tv law onto unsuspecting independent online content creators.
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>illegal opinions.
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>>120452862
what a shit move, now the rest of the word will outcompete germany on that aspect
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>>120457137
> they are only establishing a precedent
what could possibly go wrong?
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Well I am done defending Germany
I am fully team refugee now

They need to replace us faster.
I am going to clean up a room to invite a family of syrians now.
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>>120452862
Das Internet ist für uns alle Neuland.
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>>120453071
This is a good post.
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>Be a German
>Have the worst government of all time
>Forever

It's like these people are cursed. None of their leaders have EVER had the right to rule them. Germany is a nation without worthy leaders.
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>>120452862
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>>120468005
>None of their leaders have EVER had the right to rule the
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>>120453557
Know these feels anon
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>>120460444
>do nothing people get gibs while working people pay a 50% tax
kys you fucking heino
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>>120453672
Rainer would probably implode.
The retarded non-argument here is that it's also targetting the smallest channels barely making any revenue while it won't hurt big-ass streamers. It would've been far better to tax streamers over a threshold of total views small streamers could never achieve.
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Lol what a shithole. Next they're gonna require a license to eat & breathe.
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>>120460036
money is just the icing on the cake.
You know there are strict rules for licensed broadcaster, right?
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>>120454340

it wont.

germany is just cucked beyond saving. more and more people are abbandoning the (((TV))) so they do shit like this to secure some shekkel
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£I really have to say though

this whole "2010" "gaming" shit is so awful in its entirety
I'm happy that I don't play anything anymore since Wotlk

this whole "pay for custom weapons in the new counter strike (which is the same as the old counter strike)" or "watch some donkey playing super mario for the 10000ths time while he makes stupid faces" is so cancerous

I shouldn't care about all this but its like someone shat into kids brains alltogether

would you remember the early 2000's when we played CS
would someone actually have gone and pay some guy to make a funny new map? no
you either make your funny map or you don't
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>>120452862
>Germany will require Streamers on Twitch, Youtube etc. to aquire a broadcasting license similar to Radio and TV stations.

i just can't anymore ... i want to get out of here
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>>120468467
Europe seriously needs a peninsula wide revolt against these joke of a governments.

Taxing someone broadcasting fee for fucking streaming..
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>>120468217
Hitler didn't even bring treaded wheels into Russia. Resulting in all his military vehicles getting stuck in the mud.

Literal retard who had no idea what he was doing. Wanted to regain his glory from the old war by stirring up a conflict he had no chance of winning. Then when it was clear he was fucked, he ordered the Germans to fight to the last man just so more of them would be killed.

Good speaker, horrible strategist, manlet. Unworthy to lead people as great as the Germans
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>>120467726
Unsere Mutti, Sieg Heil!
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>>120454735

>implying the anyone leaves his house besides work
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>>120468570
I'm pretty sure even Finland got changed like that (as you describe in the picture).
EU and our cuck governments are like a fucking brain tumor upon people
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>>120453071
>http://www.esports-news.co.uk/2017/03/27/german-streamers-require-license/

Or it just kills the entire streaming scene in germany and makes sure only cucked servants of the state are allowed to propagandize.
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"GET A REAL JOB" FAGS BTFO

THEY LITERALLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT IS A REAL JOB, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU SAD SAD PEOPLE
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>>120454005
Gay flag is right..
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>>120453371
t. cuck
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>>120453557
Nowadays you just pay GEZ regardless. Who knows, you could have bio-modified your brain.
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>>120454214
The barrier to entry keeps the number of people down and easier to manage.

Also it chills the participants since they've already laid down their money,so they daren't get it revoked.
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>>120453071
Heres your (you)
>>
Germany wants to win the the race for maximum dictatorship\tyranny vs Erdogan.
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Might wanna get a real job
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>mfw I will have to pay 20 pounds per post on 4chin
>mfw I will go to jail if I say something politically incorrect.
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>>120468745
I personally don't have a problem paying taxes for YLE (the finnish BBC), as I listen to their radio stations on a daily basis. I do have a problem with people having to pay for YLE without even consuming their content
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>>120452862

it's not about those Twitch streamers what makes this dangerous, (these guys could pay 75% of all their income as a tax for all i care, look at destiny)

it is a way to shut down alternative media and news outlets that don't abide by the rules of the cabal of German Journalists and Politicians that are the biggest buttbuddies.

Think about it, like the US would try to tax the shit out of Alex Jones / Louder with Crouder or the Young Turks, because they don't belong to their clique, and thus don't have to wear the same chastity cage as those cucked MSM Journalists
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>>120452862
>b-but socialism is good!
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>>120454871
>They add nothing to society, sit on their ass all day trying to make a living off gibs from retards

Why, so they can live off the state?
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>>120468603

lets see what comes out of it.

but this is seriously a fucking joke. how those greedy fucks will do anything possible to secure the shekkel. it is time we take power away from the "state". enought of this bullshit.
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>>120460636
>Haven't implemented it yet
>Heh, give me one case of it happening

Think harder buddy.
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>>120461727
>Sweden laughing
Have fun when you have to give all your shit to a """""""refugee""""""" because your shitty government said so.
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>>120469107
You faggot should get jailed for posting mfw but not posting a pic
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>>120460444 #
>((((((HDI))))))
Lol, better move to Venezuela then, because according to this they are higher.
standard of living (they don't)
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>>120453557

That shit is Europe-wide because of you.
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>>120461739
German autism ladies and gentlemen
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>>120460830
Join this RISK
many nations to claim
>>
Does this only apply to the large channels or to everyone?

If it only applies to the large ones, then I have no problem with this. These people make a shit-ton of money ripping off little kids and they are not paying any taxes or anything for that.

>OH MY GOD XxXDeathStreamerXxX It is I, your biggest fan! I saved up all my pocket my for months because you don''t even acknowledge donations that are less than 100€ just so I can tell you how much I love you!
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>>120453611

In what way are the kids paying for it? It's advertising revenue unless they have a subscription model and the kids choose to subscribe of their own volition
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>>120464928
>class action lawsuit

We dont have things like this in Germany...

Also, this law sucks entirely. I don't see why you can't run a radio without a locense inn the first place. Its an ancient law that should be scrapped.
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>>120471819
>If it only applies to the large ones, then I have no problem with this. These people make a shit-ton of money ripping off little kids and they are not paying any taxes or anything for that.
Well the logic my laddies:

>I go around schools and creep up on kids just to make funny faces to them
>Kids think its so funny they throw hundreds of €urons at me
>Parents and teachers all see this and say nothing to their kids, but continue to supply their kids with money to throw at me

>Socialist cunt comes about and sees this (Le-Martin-Schulz-fuckface.jpeg)
>says that this can't be, I have to pay my funny-face-making taxe
>"The refugees need HELP, don't you see funny-face anon?" (he actually means "I need more money that I can put in Venezuela)

And YOU think this is a good idea just because you don't like funny-face-man??
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Do you think this law will stop all the immigrants/refugees from streaming live from their phones? Do you expect the authorities to come after them.... or just you?

>>120464928
You could get the support of streamers from all over the world to "join Germany in a day of solidary" and refuse to stream for 24 hours. Get all the big stream celebs to do it.
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>>120472482
Schulz has no political power at the moment. The CDU did this.
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>>120471819
Instead of wasting pocketmoney on sweets and becoming a fatfuck they pay someones salary
sounds pretty gown-up and business oriented
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>>120464800
Read the fucking thread. So far the only one affected is an extremely popular let's play channel - who can easily pay the license.
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>>120461739
>because he falls into already existing definitions of a public broadcaster
except for the whole, you know, public broadcasting part.
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>>120472875
The Jewish banks do this too.

Do you think they are based?
>>
>>120472764
>Schulz has no political power at the moment. The CDU did this.
are you fucking dense m8
who do you think writes your laws holy fuck and i'm not even german
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>>120470031
So it's fucking nothing? Like I said?
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>>120453071
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>>120472921
> the internet is a private club
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>>120453071
I know this is bait but its just so bad that you need to just do us all a favor and never post here again better yet just KYS
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>>120473659
it isn't
BUT if you start calling some h3h3-guy a "broadcaster" than YOU, yes you who writes a 4chan comment ALSO a public broadcaster don't you understand

goddamn these germans are constantly begging to get assraped by some state führer its frightning
>>
someones gotta pay for your demographic replacements, i..i mean refugees
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>>120464283
>(Livestreamers are 99,99% cancer though so I sorta support this)
Only going to get worse now that the camwhores and the huge OMG TOP 10 REACTIONS LIKE SUBSCRIBE TO WATCH ME SCREAM ON CAMERA are the ones who can afford it best
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>>120473091
>streaming?
if the kids throw their money at them and the parents pay for it, it's a proper trade agreement I'd say

and taxing them won't change anything regarding those broader funded channels
it will only weed out small, independent channels
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>>120454766
Because that scale was made by kikes.
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>>120452862

>Be German
>Log in to watch YouTube & Twitch
>Bobbies knock on the door
>"Hans, we detect you are watching online broadcasts, have you paid your TV License?"
>I forgot to renew this month's 10,000 euro license.
>Get arrested
>Government slap me with 5 years
>Refugees move in to my house no problem
>All 20-30 year old impoverished souls
>Justice was served
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>>120472037
They get more in donations than they do from their ad revenue.
>>
If you think the Globalists are bad in America, then you gotta come visit Germany.

Soon it will be posting on 4chan only with a state-approved online identity.
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>>120453071
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>>120452862
LMAO

Socialists are so fucking greedy
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>>120468570
>we live in free societies
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>>120452862
>radio service
>doesn't take up radio bandwidth
lmao
Germany is such a fucking shithole holy shit.
Getting kiked this hard.

Plz uncuck your country germanbros.
>>
>>120473954
So far this affects not "some h3h3-guy", but a huge streaming let's play channel which is streaming 24/7 and swimming in ad revenue.

And you should know that we have relatively strict child protection rules when it comes to media and video games. On top of that some games are actually banned in Germany, like it or not. So they have to pay somebody to monitor this kind of stuff, so the money has to come from somewhere - licenses.

This thread blows the whole situation completely out of proportion, as usual on /pol/.
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>>120474759
exactly
and we other Eu-retards will follow your slaughter of the of free speech yet again
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>>120474506
> bong laughing about tv licenses
seriously?
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>>120470805
all i see is a list of shit tier countries? Venezuela fits there pretty well.
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>>120462046
We are the ones that cuck.
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>>120475574

Yes, because I don't have to pay it if I don't watch normie TV.
>Can still watch 4onDemand + ITV Player
>Don't have to pay to use Twitch and Youtube

As ironic as it is, yes I can genuinely laugh at this.
>>
Its to control the thoughts of the people.
They dont want people freely streaming their mind to thousands of people.

There was a nationalist stream called "FSN TV" once. Then ---> Oh vey shut it down!
They were required to get a license, were fined and the stream stopped.
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>>120461293
Mrs. Browns boys is your symbol of typical irishness.
Absolutelydisgusting.jpg
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>>120461739
>Doesnt use public broadcast airwaves
>doesnt advertise on said airwaves
>literally have to seek out the content, not just flip on the cuckevision and see show with millions of advertising dollars propping it up
>still considered broadcast so they can revoke the privellege when contrarian views expressed.

Fucking germans. Theyll probably waive all fees for refugees and trans.
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>>120476661
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSN_(Medienportal)

> 2014 untersagte die Bayerische Landeszentrale für neue Medien den Streaming-Betrieb wegen fehlender Lizenz.
> Mittlerweile produziert und streamt FSN jedoch wieder Sendungen.
> Mittlerweile produziert und streamt FSN jedoch wieder Sendungen.
> Mittlerweile produziert und streamt FSN jedoch wieder Sendungen.
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>>120473659
That isn't what "public broadcaster" means you mental invalid
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>>120476867

"It's mrs brooooooooooooown"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUhmXHMnWZU
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>>120452862
>oh look goys we are listening to the youth now the fee will only be $100 or free for poor people
>oh goy did you use the full german anthem in one of your videos? your license is now suspended for a year.
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