It WAS Assad! The facts so far

>>119643073
Detailed write up here:

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2017/04/05/khan-sheikhoun-chemical-attack-evidence-far/

Of courses hes 100% guilty why we bother to even have dialogue doesn't make sense anymore.

fear Assad's days are numbered, why Putin attaches himself to this parasite is unclear, maybe its some homo shit.

>>119643073

What is not in doubt is the last 3 times the Obongo administration claimed Assad used chemical weapons, they lied.

This is WMD 2.0 Assad edition.

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>>119643073
>>119644301

Wow, double shilling

PROOFS
R
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that Assad gave the order. What's the plan of action there chief for your hair brained idea of removing Assad? Libya 2 electric boogaloo? Yeah nah fuck off cunt.

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>>119643073
>be rebels
>have stolen gas canisters
>western govs start easing off calls for Assad removal
>defeat is imminent without western intervention

>Lay gas canisters around a known target region for bombing
>bombs break open canisters, spreading gas everywhere
>get as much white helmet stage managed outrage bait footage as you can
>muh evil Assad chemical attack meme
>PROFIT

This shilling is getting so intense. I just want to know the truth, but /sg/ shills are telling me Assad never harmed an innocent in his life, and /ptg/ is telling me Assad gassed people. It's all so hazy and I'm sick of it. I thought the Syrian war was supposed to be the most documented war thus far. It's more shady and agenda-filled than WWII.

>>119643073
>winning the war
>better gas people just to see if I can get away with it

Try again.

shills pls goo

Assad bombed a chemical weapons facility which then released sarin. So it wasn't a "gas attack" rather a release in response to an attack.

>>119645090
This, every attempt to try and put dirt on Assad has been ramping up as Russia and Assad get closer to removing ISIS. Deepstate had their money on ousting that pesky dictator Assad and now they're so desperate their trying to go full Saddam Hussein on his ass. History repeats itself, but this time you only need to look 20, 30 years back and people are still having trouble remembering.

>>119645090
If you think it through logically it makes absolutely no sense, and I wouldn't be surprised if >>119645052 is spot on. The fact is the rebels are getting their asses kicked on all fronts and need direct Western military intervention now.

>be rebels
>get BTFO in Hama
>store Chemical weapons in area where you'd get bombed
>get bombed
>cause gas attack
>blame Assad
>OP makes a thread to explain this logic doesnt happen

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>>119644301
>why Putin attaches himself to this parasite is unclear
>maybe its some homo shit
LOL, Pootin is much worse. Also, a manlet.

>>119643073


why so quick to jump to that?

a day after the whitehouse says "The Syria people will decide Assad's fate", a gas attack happened

if it was the Syria government, then it's obviously a faction that wants to take Assad out and assume control


so weird to me that people have this imagine of Assad that he's making every decision, pulling every lever, dropping every bomb

The "airstrikes on civilians" is a meme. We falsified the same thing in Libya as justification for a no fly zone.

Mullen, among other military advisors repeatedly tell house intelligence committee members that there was no independently verified reports of Libya firing on it's citizens from the air.

Guess what happened next?

I'm not fighting any war for them, and neither should the rest of America.

Let us not forget who DIRECTLY funds the fsa terrorists. What a coincidence the us backed terror team is about to lose and is staging false flags to tap their puppet master into the fight instead of larping as a proxy army.

Imaghun my shawk.

Also he may be an asshole at times I dunno, but to paint him as some batshit crazy leader like Saddam is ridiculous. I've watched so many interviews of him there's no way he's cool as a cucumber like that on a wednesday then friday, "WELP LOOKS LIKE IMMA GAS MY OWN CITIZENS, THAT SURELY WON'T GET ME MOSSADED :D :D

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>Leaf

>>119643073
Allegedly 50 some death.
So you risk it all for an attack that gets only 50 people dead and really doesn't push you towards victory.
And you do it knowing that the whole world will know right away.
And that the consequences may be fatal to you.

Sounds like a false flag of epic proportions or just plain fake news.

>syrian army winning
> suddently uses GAS because why not , it s not like UN gonna say something

ahahahahh you fucking faggots believe this . obviously A MOSSAD/CIA false flag

>>119643073
Nope. Artillery shell.

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>>119646250
to add to that, they could easily achive the same results with conventional weapons. The use of CWs on such a small, insignificant scale provides absolutely no advantages. They syrian government is winning the war, the rebel offensive in hama was already broken at that point, and it was the rebels last shot of a larger scale operation. The syrian government had absolutely no reason to use CWs like this, they had every motivation to do everything in their power to prevent them from being used.

>>119645426
Yeah man why wouldn't Assad attack with bio weapons to eradicate support whole he was gaining the upper hand. Of course Assad would do that.

GEE I sure am sleepy.

>>119643073
>defending islamists
gas yourself leaf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yIx8Nxivuk&feature=youtu.be&t=77

>>119643073
He bombed terrorists who had stockpiled gas that they used to frame him multiple times under the protection of CIA and western media.
Nice attempt to spin this shill, but you're out of your league here.

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>>119643073

>Civilians, including children, comprise much of (if not all of) the casualties

awww shieeeet hope dusty is ok

>>119643073
>it was mossad
don't care. why should i?

>>119643073
I don't even care.

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>>119645546
and yet /pol/ will defend the manlet king & his puppet & literally let him fuck them

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>Trump blames Assad
>says he will do something

>https://www.rt.com/usa/383624-trump-syria-red-line/
>Trump said the alleged chemical weapons attack in Syria “cannot be tolerated," but he did not say what the US might do in response. He blamed the incident on the government in Damascus.

what a fucking idiot
what the fuck happened to him?
was he a globalist puppet after all or is he just retarded?

>>119645426
This is exactly right. Think about it, the only beneficiaries here are the rebels. Assad would have nothing to gain and everything to lose by using sarin where perfectly normal bombs would have done the trick. Especially when you consider that after the last time he was accused he publicly declared that he had destroyed all his chemical weapons.

>oh hey I know I said I got rid of all my sarin but you know what, JK. Imma just go and gas a bunch of villagers just for fun
>I know I could have used such weapons on actual rebel troops in the field and shit but nah, fuck these civilians in a totally non strategic location
>I just love killing my own people for no reason, I am sooo evil aren't I guys?

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>>119646958
you better care faggot, given the chance russia or china will try to eat the usa alive

>>119646896
too soon

Assadd killl own people. We'll put a boot in your ass it's the American way. Go go kill kill kill for freedom and human Rights. Let's kill em all! Adam and eve not Adam Steve OK?

>>119643073
It WAS A̶s̶s̶a̶d̶ the CIA!

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SHILLS

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>>119643073

>>119643073
>wining war
>has Russia on his side and USA decided to stay out of it after the election
>lol let's go and randomly gas some civilians

the only ones who gain anything from this attack are the neocons shilling for war

Its funny because im pretty sure a recent US airstrike caused a number of civilian casualties, but you dont here jack shit about that. Yet supposedly this is worse because "muh gad" and "muh evil dictator". People are going to die regardless, its a fucking war.

>>119643073
Good. Kill em all.

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>>119647374
>anyone who doesn't like Russia & putin the manlet & assad the retard IS A SHILL
this is what mentally gay people actually believe

Why is this shilling going on? Can anyone answer that?

Why should the US care about 50 people dying when people get massacred all over the world all the fucking time? That's what these shills never explain. There's some shady fucking agenda pushing going on and I'm just confused as to why this is so important? What do the people pushing this have to gain from the US going to war with Syria?

>>119645052
This 10000000%

>>119643073
Why the fuck would Assad - who by all accounts is actually managing to retake his country - turn the entire western world against him by using chemical weapons?
Made even more suspicious by the previous time they tried to pin a chemical attack on him and it turned out to be Saudi-funded rebels (a fact which only came to light because of independent investigation and not the mainstream media)

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>>119643073
Get the fuck out leaf. I hope the curse gets you and your kind.

>Assad gives up bioweapons in 2013
>Overseen by OPCW
>2017
>ASSAD IS USING THE SARIN GAS WE CERTIFIED HE GAVE UP

I don't understand this gas thing. Assuming it was Assad, what would be the point of gassing civilians?

>It was Assad

Nah

>It was Assad

Who gives a shit?

>>119647554
Hello JIDF.

>>119646831
This Russian is correct but has delegitimized the truth by being Russian.
I hate this world. Very few people deserve to live.

>>119647629

It's like an exact replay from a few years ago.

>>119647507

You don't hear the media complaining about it because the Jews want the war in Yemen.

>>119646364
Is that Soviet era weapons? You realize maybe the Soviets sold those to (((someone)))?

>>119647698
Spot on. Remember, a criminal needs a motive to be judged for his actions. Rebels on the other hand, has plenty of reason to pull this off.

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>>119647858
uh oh did i break away?
did i get out of line?
kill yourself

This is a shill threaf

Thou shalt not suffer a leaf to live.

>>119647698

Because Jews are obsessed with the gassed meme and think the goyim are programmed to respond to it.

>>119643073

>confirmed by the UN

Kek

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>>119643073
4chan is not MENAchan
https://menachan.org/

>>119643073
The timing is insane but the evidence so far is good. Iunno who the trust.

I will say that if it was Assad, that still shouldnt provoke a renewed offensive. The war needs to end not be prolonged, at this point whoever wins is going to be a piece of shit

>>119647698
people make mistakes bro
you know you can accidentally hit the wrong people

>>119647582

We had a predesignated strategy/plan in the middle east. Assad is a monkey in the wrench.

>>119643073
>>The impact crater of the Assad airstrike coincides with the radius of sarin gas casualties.

Are you retarded? "The impact crater of the airstrike coincides with the radius of sarin gas casualties", what does that even mean?

We already know the rebels have Sarin gas: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22424188

When the rebels have sarin gas, this must be produced somewhere and stored somewhere.

The claims of rebels in rebel-held territory opposing Assad are not credible when it comes to whether Assad is responsible for an atrocity.

>>119643073
>All victims were pro-opposition.

Nothing of value was lost then.

>>119645090
They already faked it once before. Of course it's bullshit again.

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So we're going to war again in the middle east and their using the same exact lame excuse as last time

>>119643073
>Civilians die in wars

Who could've thought it?

>>119647994
Almost like when some retard nigger or asshurt kike gives over a Jewish gravestone or draws a shit swastika on the bathroom mirror. you need to stop and think: who gains more out of the act? The Nazi constantly walking on a tightrope attempting to legitimize his cause or Shel Goldenstein?

>>119647698
Strategically? No benefit.

False flag against Assad? Perfect propaganda tool since it plays directly on the "ebil nazi gas chambers" meme already so strongly programmed into the western populace.

You have to understand it's how (((they))) operate.

>>119643073

Goddman shilling is intense.

This would shilling would have been succesful if it wasnt for the FACT THAT THEY TRIED THIS SAME KIND OF FALSE FLAG SHIT AND GOT CAUGHT BEFORE EVEN UN HAD TO ADMIT ASSAD WAS GOOD GUY

WHAT IS THIS YOU FUCKING NIGGERS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HySOqvs0sB8

GASSING BABIES IS NOT OK

>>119647582
War with Russia

>>119643073
Why would he even use gas when he could just use bombs instead?
This stupid narrative that all Middle Eastern countries are using gas all of a sudden when America doesn't like their current leader anymore is too common.

>>119643073

>Airstrike means the hoax created by terrorists is real
Schlomo please

>Civilians, including children, comprise much of (if not all of) the casualties
>terrorists are well known to plant children bodies wherever their facitilies are attacked
Not a fact.

>Assad aircraft subsequently conducted air strikes on medical facilities treating the sarin gas victims
Not a single thing about that is a fact.

>>So far there has been zero physical or photographic evidence of a single rebel chemical munition or "chemical weapons warehouse," whether intact, destroyed, or compromised.
>every house can function as a depot literally every building and there are photos of every building
Not a fact.

>The impact crater of the Assad airstrike coincides with the radius of sarin gas casualties.
Thats not just not a fact thats borderline retarded thats not how a chemical weapon attack with Sarin would work. That infact contradicts the narrative and supports its was a plant the terrrorists on the ground and reports falified to try yet again falsely accuse the Syrian government forces.

>All victims were pro-terrorists.
>kids and infants
Not a fact. Does not matter one fuck

>All eyewitnesses accuse the regime of committing a chemical weapons attack.
Not a fact. Does not matter one fuck what terrorists and people at gunpoint "report"

>Ahrar Al-Sham immediately invited chemical weapons experts to investigate the scene.
Does not matter one fuck

>>119643073
Here's the final puzzle piece you need to find
>Did Syrian airplanes drop sarin?
That's all that matters

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>>119645090
Assad doesn't gas innocents. That is the rebels. Assad has gassed the rebels and extremists and their supporters before but that was justified.

>>119647175
they've tried time and time again. they always fail.going to war against russia for syria only benefits israel.

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>>119648381
on the verge of war with NK, China, Syria, and Russia
And the usa will beat the fuck out of all of them

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>>119644301
>why Putin attaches himself to this parasite is unclear
>unclear
>pic related

this pipeline would fuck over the Russian oil economy

>>119648189
The UN are a bunch of liars and authoritarians anyways. They're fake news.

>>119646364
looks kinda like ark reactor

>>119645546
This guy knows what's up, listen to him.

>>119648144
>>119648461
That's just so absurdly over the top I can't believe people would not think to question it, but I hear what you're saying. It just boggles my mind I haven't seen anyone go "wait this literally makes no sense" they just immediately think he's gassing civilians in broad daylight because ebil dictator.

>>119648658
*the US will send its citizens to die for ZOG

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>>119643073
It was Israel. Anyone who claims otherwise is a good goy retard.

Why can't Russia remove Assad and just replace him? Thanks will make everyone happy. Russia will still have their puppet state, and the world won't be able to bitch about Assad war crimes.

I don't see a scenario in which this ends with Assad still in power and everyone is happy. Assad has to go and Russia should work on finding a replacement.

>>119648235
>that website
Wow this whole chan culture really is like a virus

>>119643073
I would need Assad to confirm he did it. I would also need vid of him ordering the command and a chain of custody from the gas bomb warehouse to the plane. Then I'd need to see at least 3 angles of vid showing the plane dropping the gas. A forensic expert of my choosing to test the site and match it to stockpiles. If you provide all of this, I'll consider believing this wasn't a false flag.

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>>119648848
don't be such a brain washed idiot, contrary to popular belief, /pol/ can be wrong
these countries you defend (they dindu nuffin, they good bois) are pretty fucking aggressive

>>119643073
>bad dictator is gassing children
yeah next we hear he gassed 6 quantzillion jews

>>119648701
Yea... ISIS are actually filming themselves burning, drowning, and beheading people alive while threatening most countries and our government doesn't seem to care but as soon as a debatable gas attack happens they spring to action to put pressure on Assad.

>>119645052
This

Everyone knows the terrorists plant chemical weapons in their own weapon storages in dense areas. Its not just to push blame for propaganda it also a psychological deterent for the governemnt using the civilian population as shields even against precission strikes and also slows down the advances against terrorists.

>>119648929
It's not about Assad, it's about regime change. See >>119648701 as to why.

This was the reason for the war from the very beginning. None of the powers pushing this shit actually care about oppression or freedom, only their fucking shekels.

>>119645052
Ding ding ding

Only theory that makes any fucking sense at all.

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Biggest redpill on syria pic and link related

Explains everything :

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328

>around 100 kids died that's not ok. not too sure whodunit but the kids mayn
>let's blow damascus to dust with everyone inside of it to deal some justice

IMPECCABLE U.S. LOGIC

>>119646896
poor dusty, how does he keep getting in these situations?

>>119643073
Justified, id saturate sunni neighbourhoods with VX fleshmelting gas if i could.

Fuck FSA. Fuck the UN. Fuck shareblue shills and fuck wahabbis and their ilk.

Good luck going toe to toe with russia, i saw the cold response drill up here in finnmark, literally all the NATO personell and equipment could fit on one grass field not 4 soccer fields even, the exercise was about response and movement of personell and the fuckers made traffic jams.

Real effective my ass. Enjoy ww3 im not fighting for a side that wants to replace me with muslims.

>>119643073
>confirmed
>undisputed facts
and no source as per fucking usual.
Saged.

I can agree that bombing assad would be disaster for that region, and probably not a good idea, what I don't agree with is this belief that Assad and co are not capable of chemical attacks, they are and have done it many times in the past ffs. They are capable of that and much more, assassinations in Lebanon, car bombings, kidnappings, trying to take over governments with spies, this is why I believe Putin and Assad make such good buddies, even more than just money or military reasons. They are treacherous and should not be trusted, just like nay other government. I know having lived in that region how Assad is, the guy wants a fucking monarchy, has he not learned his lesson from Egypt? Shits a repeat to what happened there and Lebanon too, the beginning of it.

>>119643073
Fake News: The Thread

>>119649472
>I'm not fighting for a side who wants to replace me with Muslims

Exactly, fuck the west and the new red scare.

>>119649472

> Implying Russia and their 15% Islamic population, larger than all Islamic populations in Europe, wouldn't replace you with Muslims.

>>119649283
Nice try. You know what happens when sarin gas stocks get bombed? The gas becomes inert/destroyed.

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>>119643073
Fuck you you fucking turbo cuck shill.

It's a war and there are bombings and casualties all the time - everywhere.

CIRCUMSTANTIAL

Unless there is REAL PROOF that the aircraft payload was gas, it was not Assad.

>>119649618
Why would they use chemical warfare when they are winning? Support for assad globally is extremely high considering. Assad isn't stupid enough to give the kikes in the west and excuse for full on war. This is bullshit.

>>119645052
The bombs don't break open, they don't get aerosolized either. The gas is destroyed you fool.

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>>119648701
>>119649329
Also dumping the full rundown of this.

tfw every single picture they show is a child. What did they gas, a child stockpile?

>>119649937

I thought the same thing until I realized this is exactly what they wanted us to think.

I think you underestimate the power of Russian psychological warfare.

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>>119643073
>Assad MUST go!
Hillary said that a lot while she was planning on going to war with Russia.

So I'm unconvinced by the party-line narrative. I really could give 2 shits about Assad, but I hate the people that he's fighting and the US govt actors who have supported them.
In this instance, Assad had nothing to gain, but ISIS had everything to gain. My instinct is to see this as a false flag.

HERE'S WHAT I DON'T GET:
Why is the Trump Administration throwing support behind the narrative and rattling sabers at the UN?
Did Trump get fooled, or painted into a corner here?
Is it a feint to cover a bigger game afoot?

Thoughts?

>>119649090
>these countries are mean to Islam and Israel so send the US to die for them

>>119649618
>they are and have done it many times in the past ffs
Really? Because none of the various UN and OPWC investigation teams was able to proof that. There was always reasonable doubt about who was responsible. Meanwhile we have confirmed cases of rebels using chemical weapons, and even people like carla del ponte blaming the rebels in some cases.

The rest is just useless, confuse ranting not worth an answer.

Just answer me this: What reason would assad/the syrian government/the syrian armed forces have to use gas now, on an insignificantly small scale? It offered absolutely no military advantage, besides that the rebel offensive in northern hama was already beaten down. They could've achieved the same or more with conventional weapons, like they demonstrated since the russian intervention. All this does is severly weaken the governments position, nothing else.

>>119649688
The big difference is Russia subjugated its Muslims. They didn't flood into Russia's borders for gibs and to subvert its culture and demographics. They live under Russia's fist, and Russians do not bow to them like Western Europe does.

(don't even bother posting meme images of mosques in Moscow or whatever it is now, literally not an argument.)

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>>119650116

I've been searching all over and can't seem to find the video of the post- staged chemical attack video from 2016 where the kids get up and they're smiling and it's fun to them. Can someone please find it? It's very important.

>>119650079
Putin is pro Assad, and Assad was winning, why would he push for this?

>>119649937
Because they want to test trump and the western world has already shown that it won't do shit (see the 2013 attacks). It makes life hell on earth for the civilians which is bad for rebel support.

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>>119643073
>>119643403
>A leaf
Why am I not surprised?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LULzvg1gA5U&feature=youtu.be

>>119650125

> Why did Trump not suck Assads cock on the world stage?

Are you really asking that? Especially when he is being accused of being a shill for Russia.

>>119649982
>t. never heard about aum shinrikyo and what they did to the tokyo subway

>>119648235
I'm half latino, and I fucking love that ass. Too bad most white women in my country have shitty genes, and don't have this beauty.

>>119643073
Funny seeing the leftist shills support trump the instant he betrays /pol.

Even if he gassed some terrorist and their shitskin niglets I don't give a fuck. Assad is a national socialist who names the Jew. He is an honorary aryan.

>>119650309
Was just about to post that tweet. Very suspicious.

>>119643073
we have no idea where the casualties were at the time of the airstrikes or what killed them.

also Syria has never had chemical weapons capable of being deployed on jets.

so far we have no evidence chemical weapons were used at all.

>>119650182

Chechens run Russia. They are litterally welfare Muslims, but then again everyone in Russia is poor.

the good news is, the zionist joos behind the gas attack are so pathetically desparate that all they could come up with to get thestupid americunts to fight another one of their enemies is " OMG HE WAS VISCIOUS, he used sarcasm and wmds!!"

its getting old David/Ben/Mordechai....

EXEPT IT WAS NOT SARIN SINCE THEY HAVE REPORTED A BAD SMELL AND SARIN GAS DOESN'T SMELL YOUR WHOLE THEROY JUST GOT BTFO.

>gasing rebel scum is a bad thing
Wow this place has changed...

>>119650297

Assad has been 'winning' for like 4 years and this is still going on.

You tell me.

>>119650303
why on earth would they want to test Trump when they were quite happily winning the war without testing him

>>119650572
it was french fart. lethal

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>>119643073

This was a "Moderate Rebel" incident again.

The MSM propaganda narratives are really being fired up.

White Helmets immediately being on scene without proper safety equipment should be a major Red Flag.

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6

>>119650329
Why are you comparing those two? Are you a bit slow?

>>119650572
yeah the journailists screwed up their story. Sarin has no smell.

of course this bogus story will just be forgotten

>>119650580
Yes, and now there were international voices starting to concede legitimacy to Assad and a need to consider to let him up there. Putin only stands to lose from giving the rebels anything, instantly the Saudis move in.

>>119643073
Your shilling is useless.

You should kill yourself.

>>119650681
fuck off anon5, you pretentious faggot. you're right though

>>119650600

Why is North Korea testing Trump? Because China is telling them to.

Russia and China are not our allies. I hope you know this. There is a reason they are not in NATO.

>>119650580
he hasn't though, it was looking terrible for the government before the russian intervention. Only by the end of last year were they able to close the pockets around damascus and recapture east aleppo.

The rebels are loosing hard now, but it took a long time to get to that point.

>>119643073
Can we just allow mudslimes to continue killing each other? Or else they are gonna drown the world in their filth...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/05/muslim-population-overtake-christian-birthrate-20-years

Lets be honest, it wasn't Assad.

It was Putin letting off some steam after what happened in St Petersburg

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>>119650657

>>119649688
>implying invading armies dont rely on intel and hearts and minds of locals.

Trust me id have plenty to share, shit if they gave me and some others license to purge id might actually pick up a gun and go look for collaborateurs.

Plenty good rearguard units can be made by locals in occupied territory, you guys do it in every country you invade why shouldnt russia? Im sure putin would not mind the extra manpower.

>>119649377
is what? IS WHAT? I WANT TO KNOW MORE!?

>>119643403
youre citing bellingcat?

you're a cunt.

>>119650572
This just in: French people were seen around the scene of the gas

>>119650600
To see if they can get away with it. Chemical attacks will make sure the support for the rebels will wane.

Why would Assad be using chemical weapons, that is the question no one is asking. What does he possibly have to gain? He can bomb the shit out of anyone he wants from the air. All this would do is turn the international community against him and make it harder for Syria's only allies to justify their support.

>>119650428
As long as it's justifies getting Assad out, they'll do anything.

>>119650796

Thats because Russia is killing off all middle ground so that the world can only pick between ISIS and Assad and everyone is going to pick Assad.

This is their plan. Why do you think Russia spends more time bombing FSA locations than they do ISIS.

>>119650756
why wouldn't i? Despite its low vapor pressure the sarin killed a dozen or so people and wounded about 4 thousand. All they did was stab the PET bottles they stored it in. If the canisters you store it in get bombed (or, what's more likely, the improvised munitions you wanted to deploy it with) blow up it's going to be quite effectively dispersed.

>>119650874
that's right, Assad really wasnt doing well until recently

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>>119650125
I've stood by Trump for a long time and probably will continue to do so, but I've always said his foreign policy is my red line and I'm starting to get worried.

He can spout all of the rhetoric he needs to but if we actually takes anti-Assad or anti-Iranian moves then I'm done with him. The Russia-Iraq-Iran-Syrian alliance should be strengthened at all costs and the Sunni dominance over the Middle East should be toppled. It's the only way to salvage the region.

>>119651178
indeed, this attack is staged terrorist bullshit, and overthrowing Assad will be a total disaster just like Iraq and Libya

>>119651117
>all middle ground
Yeah, because there's so much middle ground left, right? The moderate opposition was long dead before the russian intervention. They spend more time bombing the rebels because ISIS only holds very few towns and strategic locations but a whole lot of empty desert in syria.

>>119651178

That's because you're a faggot who loves a poor ex-commie nation like Russia over the most prosperous nation on earth. You poor potato eating bitch.

>>119643073
Is it possible that Assad is that retarded? They have the Russians on side, why would he need chemical weapons, given the obvious backlash.

>>119650244
Anybody? Or are we just going to accept they wiped the evidence of it from the internet like they did with lacing bahrain water supplies with depressants during the revolt? Ugh fine, whatever. Let the globalists win i guess.

>>119651118
No it will destroy the sarin gas you cretin. Look it up yourself: There are two major ways to dispose of chemical weapons: incineration and neutralization. Incineration uses a tremendous amount of heat to turn the toxic chemical into mostly ash, water vapor, and carbon dioxide.

>>119651178
>russia
>heroes of justice and right
credibility of that image dropped

>>119651352
Shut the fuck up brainlet yank. Tell me why I'm wrong instead of speaking like a retard with his head stuck in the cold war.

>>119651347

Again, the middle ground has been getting leveled by Russian Airstrikes. The United States has bombed ISIS more than Russia has just to put it in perspective.

>>119647991
>sold those to Rifaat al-Assad

LOL

>>119651383
For the same reason they would definitely risk Western intervention with the first gas attack, the rebels are getting their asses handed to them and falseflagging as hard as they can so NATO wins the war for them.

>>119643073
The big argument that comes up EVERY TIME there's a "chemical weapon in syria" story is this:

Assad is winning.

Why would he jeopardize his military gains with one off chemical weapons attacks?

These attacks HURT Assad FAR more than they hurt his opposition.

Assad is only still in power by playing smart.

Thus, the attack was not done by Assad, because Assad isn't a retard.

>>119651474
When it comes to the Middle East, yes. They are the only external power acting as a stabilizing influence.

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>>119643073
>chemical weapons
>impact crater
>chemical weapons
>crater
>crater
>as in hole in the ground
>as in dumb bomb exploding when it hits the ground
>as in not as burst for dispersal of the chemical agent
>crater
>as in not chemical weapons

>>119649982

i heard this shit on the radio earlier too

>Sarin Gas in weapons stockpiles or warehouses would be destroyed by explosions

>Here look at these craters where explosive shells have landed as evidence that Assad was dropping chemical weapon bombs!

>>119643073

>assad must go!

but he's killing syrians.

if they die they cant come here and allah akbar.

the enemy of my enemy is my friend, etc

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>>119643073
it was me. sorry guys.

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>>119651497

I can't say you're wrong since it's your opinion.

You clearly love Russia/China/Iran/North Korea because you're a faggot potato. You only supported Trump because you thought he would let Russia fuck him in the ass.

Top kek. Sorry, kiddo. President Trump is a shill for America, no one else.

>>119651453
the Sarin wouldnt be destroyed if shrapnel pierced the containers, it would be released.

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>All victims were pro-opposition.
>All eyewitnesses accuse the regime of committing a chemical weapons attack

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>>119651453
yeah, probably look up how your described incineration looks like in the facilities that dispose chemical weapons. Here's a hint: They use temperatures exceeding 2000°C in a sealed environment, for a prolonged time.

Do you know how liquid chemical weapons are usually dispersed? By detonation of a small explosive charge within the shell/warhead.

>>119643073
Assad forces airstruck a rebel gas stockpile you nerd.

>islamic rebels hide among women and children
>get bombed with their women and children
>Assad is the bad guy

What the fuck is he supposed to do, let the rebels tear shit up? How about they disparage the rebels for even being in the same place as women and children?

>>119651645
I said nothing about the delivery method. Don't pretend you are some kind of expert because you are not.

>>119650174
>What reason would assad/the syrian government/the syrian armed forces have to use gas now, on an insignificantly small scale?

Well ask yourself what reason would Syria bomb areas which had both lebanese and syrians during the civil war? The obvious and easiest answer is to drive them out, spies, who knows, you can also say they were using children as human shields, fair enough, and they just got caught up in the bombing, but to flat out say it wasn't assad or syria is lunacy, which airforce dropped those bombs? Israel? United States? Rebels who fly fighter jets? Come on.. Don't be so naive.

See, in a clock that only goes back a decade you would believe Syria is not capable, but those who know Syria, who live in that area and are neighbors will tell you differently.

Putin is just as worse,

I have left this thread. bye.

>>119651704
No, I like Russia and Iran because they're actually fighting the Wahhabist shits instead of flooding them with money like your retard fucking regimes. You are an excellent goy, I'm sure you see Iran as a threat to the West.

>>119651645
lol yeah. how did the sarin survive blowing up in a bomb

>>119643073
Assad bombed a rebel chemical weapons factory which released the gas.

>>119646251
More likely Islamist elements within Assad's regime. Only the opposition (al-Qaeda lite) stand to gain from this. What a mess

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>>119648955
Arabs and their Hebrews cousins should go there, instead of flooding 4Chan with syria/syrian threads all over

>>119651453
>>119651799
besides that, it's saponification for most organophosphonates, not neutralization. And an airstrike doesn't have to be a direct hit on CW munitions to fuck them up badly. Bombs, artillery and grenades mainly kill through shrapnel for example, and are usually designed to create an optimal shrapnel field if they are intened against soft targets.

>>119647698
Let's be honest: It was either the rebels or the Western powers. There was nothing to gain for Assad, while USA and EU needed to make sure that the pipeline is being built so they can kill off the remnants of russian economy. You can't do that if you have a pro-russian president in Syria though.

>>119651823
the delivery method is claimed to have been a bomb that blew up and made a crater.

>>119651799
Thanks for proving my point. Note the "small" part.

>>119648235
Why can't the western woman have these tits and ass? She looks like the ideal woman for breeding my babies.

>>119643073
Noone cares you autistic leaf fuck.

>>119643073

but putin controls assad, so it was putin

>>119651729
Isn't it a binary nerve agent? I think it is fairly innocuous if it hasn't mixed.

It was Chlorine. Not Sarin. Any military vet can tell the difference. So it wasn't Assad.

They used Chlorine in IEDs when I was in Iraq. It's one of their bag of tricks.

I'm no fan of Assad, but it wasn't him.

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>>119652070
Tin foil retard

Cognitive dissonance: the thread

>>119651498
you have no idea what you're talking about. What middle groudn was there left by the end of 2015? Al nusra was the biggest rebel group at that point, followed by ahrar al sham which is hardly any better. Most of the smaller groups around them are the same jihadi shitheads. If the "moderates" ever had significant numbers in the rebellion they completly lost control to jihadis by 2014, long before the russians entered the theater.

The russians bomb ISIS when it's necessary, the tadmur, east aleppo and tabqa offensives show that, so does the continuous action around DeZ. Their main objective is to help the syrian government forces, so its only reasonable that they bomb most on the most active fronts.

Also for bombing ISIS so much its a wonder that the allmighty US airforce didn't manage to dry up their oiltrade by the end of 2015...

>>119652282
yes thats right, its often in binary form. however the binary mixing agents are highly toxic themselves and of course if they are released they can mix,

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>>119643073
>Only reasonable course of action: Assad MUST go!

He will be welcomed in Britain, not for the first time.

>>119652103
how is that proving your point, how dense can you be? An explosion is not a reliable way to destroy CWs. It's not even feasible. Besides that, even if it was possible, it would take a direct hit, the chances for that are incredibly small.

>>119643073
Wtf I care about muslims now

LET SYRIA WIPE ITSELF OUT

it's the only way to save the world ffs

>>119652086
See the post by our kraut friend.

>>119651178
>heros of justice and right
>hezbollah
>iran
>YPG
kys unironically

>>119652714
an explosion is far more likely to be a reliable way to release chemical agents then incinerate them.

>>119651842
so TL;DR, he has absolutely no reason? That's just what i said, thanks. Everything you said can be achieved just as easily with conventional weapons, without international backleash.

To be honest don't care if it was assad or not
i wan't stability in Middle East so we wouldn't take more refugees

>>119652845
exactly. That's why almost all binary CW systems use explosives to disperse them after they are mixed.

>>119652285
Can you expand on that. How to know the difference?

>>119651178
>cancers of ME
>no Israel

what dude?

>>119651910
This exactly.

I am in favor of the "New Axis" of Russia, China, Iran, Syria, etc. The ZOG, Israel and Saudi Arabia is the triple entente of terrorism which supports AQ and ISIS as we get blown up in the streets. Iraqi "war crimes" were shams, Libya "war crimes" were shams, and now we're sympathizing with Tahrir al-Sham

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>>119652473
Genie Energy was buying the oil from isis, and the US avoided bombing their trucks for years. Google it, its public info now.

https://genieoilgas.com/about-us/strategic-advisory-board/
>Dick Cheney
>Rupert Murdoch
>Jacob Rothschild, OM, GBE
etc

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Man... nobody really fucking knows who did this and I don't actually know what to look for to convince myself it happened in the first place. So because I'm so disconnected, I have no reason to care other than the fact Syrians are the whitest looking Muslims Ive seen in the press and if were going to save any of them these should be the ones we save but have to save my local whites first so I still don't care.

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>>119648144
fuck anon you're totally right

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>>119650997

>>119652831
When have any of the mentioned attacked Western soil?

>>119643073


https://www.infowars.com/report-soros-linked-group-behind-chemical-attack-in-syria/

but as i keep saying, we have zero proof any chemical agents were used at all by anyone.

do you trust White Helmets videos and a struck off former UK doctor wanted for terrorism?

I sure fucking don't

>>119643073
>be Assad
>be winning war against rebels
>have Russia backing me
>new American President somewhat friendly and seems like he doesn't give a fuck if I stay in power so long as ISIS rebels get put down
>provoke international incident for no reason by using chemical weapons
right.

>>119643073
Assad is gassing Muslims.

He's doing the Lord's work

>>119652542
The Russian official story makes less sense than the western one imo. There would be some degree of mixing, no doubt, but it wouldn't be enough to cause mass casualties. Definitely an Islamist false flag. At the very least, it has been pro-Islamist elements in the Assad government.

>>119653008
the first response personal didn't wear full body protection suits but only gas and dust masks for example. If the area they got the alleged victims out of really was contaminated with sarin they'd be pretty ded right now since it's also absorbed through the skin

>>119652155
I need and answer to this

>>119652070
Could be true

>>119652398
idiot

>>119653150
not an argument

>>119652979
the poster claiming explosions incinerate CW's is getting it from a cunt called Hamish Bretton Wood, a warmonger who has been spouting bullshit on Uk tv this morning

>>119652714
>>119652979
>>119652845

Hamish de Bretton Gordon, director of Doctors Under Fire and former commanding officer of the UK Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear (CBRN) Regiment, said this claim was “completely untrue”.

“No I think this [claim] is pretty fanciful, no doubt the Russians trying to protect their allies,” he said. “Axiomatically, if you blow up sarin, you destroy it.”

“It’s very clear it’s a sarin attack,” he added. “The view that it’s an al-Qaida or rebel stockpile of sarin that’s been blown up in an explosion, I think is completely unsustainable and completely untrue.”

Inb4 tin foil shit about the msm and other conspiracy shit. Here's an expert with REAL WORLD experience proving you wrong. Thank's for playing.

>>119652885
the number of refugees your country took in is not even in the double digits i'd wager.
face it, refugees want to go a step up, not down.

>>119643073
>photo
Reminder that there are no journalists in Syria because they get beheaded if they're caught. Everything you know is from people with a strong bias.

>>119643073
does mossad or CIA pay you for posting this totally believable stuff?

>>119653244
>>provoke international incident for no reason by using chemical weapons

Isn't there supposed to be a conference on Syria or some shit coming up in the next few days??

>>119647554
>good goy, we should kill Assad and plunge Syria into chaos

>>119653385
What do you have against them then?

>>119653109
that is legit the dumbest motivation i have ever heard.

>>119643073
>finally it goes Assad's way
>due to Trump being elected, the West does not adamantly oppose him anymore but just wants this shit to end
>ISIS almost beaten

>"Lol lets just use Sarin gas and rile everyone up again :DD"

Give me one, just one good reason why the fuck they should have done that. Victory was assured to them.

>>119653318
my position is that no chemicals were released at all. i dont buy the chemical warehouse story either.

i think the dead kids were kidnapped and murdered by the rebels to be used as props for their video.

>>119643073
Why would someone on the verge of victory anger everyone in this way and turn the whole world on him?

It's a CIA false flag.

>>119653394
Someone who actually has real world experience with this. Call your fellow countryman a shill or whatever, it just proves how much you siffer from tunnel vision.

>>119653411
So then, how do you explain the fact that the rebels claimed the sarin gas was dropped using bombs, that exploded, and exploded so well they left holes in the ground that they took pictures of ?
If there is an explosion, the gas would've been destroyed. Which means no gas was ever dropped, because it would make no sense to drop it in an explosive shell.

Now, kill yourself.

>>119643073
Even if that were all true, so what?

>>119643073
Points to a successful strike on a Rebel Chemical Weapons depot.

>>119652282
it can be a binary agent. If you have a sophisticated CW program you use binary agents, for multiple reasons.
-you don't risking to gas your troops/warehouse personal if the shit leaks/malfunctions
-long term stable, most organophosphonates degrade and would thus have a shorter shelflife
-easier to handle since you're filling your weapon systems with two substances that can be reasonably handled

it doesn't have to be. You can just as well cook up sarin or pretty much all other nerve agents and then store and deploy them as is. If the rebels had sarin it was in this form, they don't have the ressources necessary to deploy binary agents.

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>>119653157
>infowars
/r/the_donald is the other way.

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>>119652155
>Why can't the western woman have these tits and ass?
Finland does not represent the West in its entirety
But many women still from Finland are very cute indeed

>>119652473
On 28 January 2017, Tahrir al-Sham chose the former leader of Ahrar al-Sham, Abu Jaber Hashem Al-Sheikh,[146] also known as Abu Jaber, to lead the newly created group;[147] a group that resulted from the al-Nusra Front's merger with Idlib's Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement and other Salafist rebel groups.
Ahrar is cozy as shit with AQ, yet America refuses to call them a terrorist group and FSA cooperates with them. Saudi Arabia and Turkey are behind them too.
But I'm glad the rebels are the moral choice! Freedom fighters!

>>119643073
>Implying the rebels and ISIS aren't estatic with all the attention and sympathy this has garnered.

>>119643073
>Assads Forces were air strikeing that area when the rebels set off there sarin gas
You haven't proven anything the UN is not a source for proofs.

>>119651645
Really caused one to think.

I hope the CIA is happy for killing innocent children. How do CIA employees live with themselves?

>>119653650
That would make sense. Are the dead the only proof this was a chemical attack? How would one determine that sarin was used? (Other than autopsies)

>>119652155
Fake tits and ass
Genius

>>119653411
>neocon warmonger
>no idea about chemistry
>trust this fella, he has real world experience
>please ignore that he seems to have no idea about chemical weapons and how they are deployed, stored or disposed of

>>119652398
kys kike faggot shill

>>119653836
No, I don't like finnish women. Now that you put it like that, you're right. Other european women have better ass than finnish women, and better genes.

>>119653729
Because the vehicles designed for dispersing the gas are designed with those explosions taken into account. They are part of the design

>>119643073
I hate shill leafs so god damned much

I'd advocate a nuclear holocaust, but Canada is where I keep all my stuff.

>>119653697
the guy is a cunt with an agenda spouting obvious nonsense. explosions disperse CW's, they dont magically destroy them.

if it was just shrapnel piercing chemical containers, 100% of the chemical agents would survive.

its fucking obvious.

>>119653338
That's correct. First responders would have died. Chlorine is a gas and when it's concentrated, you die from 2 or 3 breaths. It melts your lungs. Sure sign is labored breathing as we saw in the videos. Sarin would cause mucous responses and convulsions. Didn't see any of that.

>>119654033
>He has no idea about chemical weapons
Wut?

>>119643073

Nope.

Where dud rebeks get sarin? Turkey or Israel or the US?

https://wakeup-world.com/2016/04/17/top-10-indications-proof-that-isis-is-us-israeli-creation/

Why does Assad have any reason to gas a city?

Isn't Assad and Russia making massive gains and victories?

It just doesn't seem logical or strategic to gas a city when you're fucking winning by this much.

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KEK

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You know what happens when someone touches Sarin gas with their skin? They fucking die.
All those white hats would be fucking dead right now if that were Sarin.
Sarin also doesn't smell, yet all these reporters and first responders smelled it. There's some seriously sketchy shit going on and nobody wants to actually look at it because "MUH CHILRIN"
Not to mention the fact that Kerry said Assad gave up all the chemical weapons back in 08 or 09.
Why the fuck would Assad has some fucking nothing village for no reason?

>>119653975
by testing for the metabolites. you'd need a professional investigations team in the area for that.

>>119654056
This is beyond retarded. Shells used to disperse gas don't explode. Exploding is the last thing you want such a shell to do.

Once again, kill yourself. Your shilling is not fooling anyone.

>>119654173
>Why would Assad gas a literal nothing village for no reason

The only reason would be if he's been a kike puppet all along. Seems unlikely.

>>119653992
I don't this her ass is fake tho. And it's not just that, I like everything about her. She's perfect woman to have children with.

>>119654149
it's either that or he's lying to feed his narrative, it doesn't matter which of the two options it is.

>>119653411
>works with UK
no conflict of interest here! I guarantee you're a Turk living off welfare in Amsterdam pretending to care about Syrian children

>>119654235
Quick ship the dead babbies to a state of the art analysis lab

>>119654170
She needs to go back to working at Whataburger.

>>119654353

Finland, everyone!

>>119643403
>bellingcat
Oh lord, I still remember their bullshit debacle in Ukraine; get fucked leaf.

>muh muh Sarin
>HE kills just as many or more

>>119654056
Complete non-sense the most effective way to disperse sarin is through cluster munitions. Any explosion powerful to leave a crater and shrapnel marks would destroy the sarin.

>>119653975
there is literally no proof of any chemical release at all when you actually look at the videos unemotionally.

and plenty of strong indicators there are no chemicals present. no protective clothing being worn, for example.

>>119651645
you know what happens if you detonate a handgrenade next to a nuke?

you have a broken nuke

>>119644576
Should probably be grateful for it though. Obama never had the balls to go through with his threats anyway and thanks to him claiming that bullshit three times and then doing nothing, no one really cares anymore.

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>>119654170

>>119654389
yeah, pretty much. Or freeze blood samples. They have to be taken within about 36 hours or so for it to be reliable.

>>119645052
>LITERALLY a day after the US says "hm maybe we don't actually want to depose Assad, he's doing a decent job kicking the shit out of ISIS"
>Suspiciously hyped media coverage of totally cut-off jihadi-held village in the middle of nowhere
>no independent journalists in sight, (((facts))) come from self-appointed (((reporters)))

This fucking stinks

Whoooo gives a fuck?

We're supposed to start ww3 because 70+ people died in some fishy way.

Fuck off. Fight it yourselves shills. Ill help pay for your boots.

>>119654484
>through cluster munitions
that then explode, to disperse it as aerosol. Granted, a small explosion that wouldn't really do any harm to the environment but only blow up the canister.

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>>119643073
Assads Military did this to Oust Assad

MILITARY COUP

>>119645090
Assad already won the city of Aleppo there's nothing to gain by gasing anybody. This is like the 100000+ attack on hospitals/bakeries/gasing. All reports are from the same Soros backed White helmets group.

>>119654484
yep, there should be at least one and more likely several large and pretty much undamaged Sarin containers lying about.

no sign of those.

>>119653411
Bullshit all the airstrike would have to do is breach the containment vessel holding the sarin for it to leak.

>>119643073
Why did they draw a slice of pizza on his forehead?

>>119654235
This whole situation makes no sense. I'm not buying anything I have heard so far.

>>119654403
There're no latinas here, or middle eastern qts . Everyone looks like mongol, and since I'm half-latino it's hard for me to accept these sub-par feminist shits.

>>119653490
YPG are part of the PKK which are literal Maoist communists
Iran is an Islamic dictatorship in all but name who's only redeeming quality is their disdain for Israel, and would attack us without second thought given the chance
Hezbollah is similarly only redeemed by their disdain for Israel and have a devout Jihadist anti-west stance.

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>>119643073

>>119643073
Fug, guess we gotta escalate and risk WW3 with Russia now because a dictator did something bad, god knows that doesn't happen all the time without a peep from Washington.

>>119645090
just ask yourself a single question:

who is likely to gain from this attack and who is likely to lose from it?

makes it pretty easy to make an educated guess on what's happening

>>119654550
She looks kinda brazilian, could be a relative to my mother.

>>119654570
can I get a quick source for the us changing their view? I'm arguing with a retard right now

there is no way this was sarin, I've seen the aftermath video and it can't be sarin. Sarin is EXTREMELY deadly and kills people within instant. You cannot 'treat' sarin attacks in hospitals, let alone spray water and touch bodies with bare hands, what a fucking joke.

Sarin is also something that is extremely difficult to make, only the UK, USA and Russia have the capability of making lethal high grade sarin.

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>>119646896
STAGED

>>119654484
Thanks for proving my point.

>>119654734
>Causing it to leak

And how would it spread?

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wow, given the Zionist/neocon warpig trolls that have descended, 4chan must be all the zionormies talk about.

https://truthfrequencyradio.com/greater-israel-israeli-1982-plan-for-mideast-empire-aided-by-isis/

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>>119643073

>Guy gives up chemical weapons in 2014

>Guy is winning the war, which is near its end

>Suddenly guy dies something deplorable that will bring the wrath of American and international forces down on him and now will turn the tide of war against him costing him victory

Makes no logical sense and it's too conveniently timed

Also...

>Use a proxy army like IS to start a war

>Previous president actually finds proxy army

>Empty an entire nation of its people with the idea that they must be settled permanently in other nations, never to return home

>suspicious gas attacks invites international forces to intervene and destroy the standing government and remaining military

>neighboring Israel is already drilling for oil across the border in Syria

I'm starting to believe this war has always been about creating greater Israel

>>119649982
>Not confirmed to be a nerve agent, only speculation that this is the case
> agents such as mustard gas and phosgene, or precursors thereof that the rebels are known to have used previously (check the 2013 UN report on chemical weapons in syria, they have independent confirmation of ISIS using mustard gas) don't require aerosolisation to be effective
>what happens when an explosion disperses droplets of volatile chemical agent over hot ground?
>

>>119654538
if you detonate a handgrenade next to containers of Sarin binary mixing agents, the shrapnel pierces the container walls and the agents flow out and mix, producing Sarin

>>119650364
mees Mikael Gabriel vittuun.

>>119654910
tillerson said something along the lines of the syrian people should decide their future, assad doesn't have to go while he was in turkey two days ago

>>119645546
Hi shareblue. How was vacation?

>>119643073
That's funny, I just saw that a U.N.official come out and say that the rebels were responsible.