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GIFTED & TALENTED PROGRAM. MK ULTRA? WHAT WAS IT?

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How many of you were in this program growing up? I remember the GT & Discovery classes, the covered windows because they didnt want kids seeing what we do in there, the weird flash cards, the strange questionnaires and all the science experiments.

I've recently heard a lot of similarities from other people who were in these programs...We all seem to have family with lots of military connections and dead really well on standardized tests, etc.

There also seems to be other similarities like having been pressured into playing sports your whole life

meeting a soulmate that appeared out of nowhere and then left suddenly or randomly

They also tend to have paranoid ideas of being watched by the groups that groomed them while growing up

Does anyone have more to say about this interesting and schizo idea?

To be honest the similarities between all participants is so crazy it freaks me out
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>>115379043
I was in GATE, AMA.
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>>115379043
I got kicked out from tons of those programs! :D
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>>115379043
when i was a kid i voluntarily said no to take these programs
i don't know why i did, i don't know why my parents let me even say no
but i knew even at that age they were of no help to me
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>>115379043

The Gifted & Talented program was only in my elementary school and yeah it was weird. They would pull us out of our regular classes and put us in a room and we'd solve logic puzzles with toothpicks and shit. It had to be some kind of experiment or study. It was 2nd grade at one school, then I moved schools every year after that and never heard of another program after that.
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>>115379154
I was too. Do you have the occipital bun thing?
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>>115379043
I was a GATE student

With genius comes madness
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>>115379043
It was segregation 2.0. To get into the program, you had to take an IQ test. That weeded out all the black kids. The GAT classes were basically whites-and-asians-only, but with a quantified basis for discrimination. Such programs were popular in the South with parents who wanted the well-funded educational opportunities that public schools could afford but without the blacks ruining things.
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Grooming and Recruiting. Happens all the time.

Pick an agency.
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>>115379043

we did really well on standardized tests and all tests basically becaaaaauuuuuse we're Gifted numbnuts
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I was in ALPHA in middle school. As far as I can tell, it's the same thing with different acronym. I learned things I didn't see later until college. There were 6 of us out of about 300 students.
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>>115379924
>>115379793
>>115379558
I have heard that either

a.) there were two groups of kids who were observed, GT kids who were in the class and "GT kids" who were left with the regular population

b.) that they put us in the classes for a certain a mount of time and did what they needed and then put us back into "normal" settings and watched what happened

I just think it is bizarre how they could have coordinated this with all of my teachers and what not while growing up...The "discoveries" program went on into middle school and then stopped..All of the kids who I knew who went through this kind of stuck together and they all seemed to have anxiety problems and became "outcasts" though they did pretty well in school still, some did super well, some did really bad though..
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>>115380427
false.

remember having black kids and indians in my own version.
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>>115380018
Sort of, the back of my skull curves down and inward then juts back out.
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my school scheduled only gifted students to be in the same classes as well
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>>115379043
fuuck, I participated in a magnet program like that in middle school. I was taken to a bungalow located at the other side of campus, it had tinted black windows. We had this "psychologist" lady ask us weird questions and showing us weird flash cards too, I remember she had us put on wrap around sunglasses like the ones old people wear to the beach and sit us facing the wall and she would pull up cards and asks us to guess the pattern of the card. I also remember having to put on the same sunglasses to hear these weird sound and beeps similar to the hearing tests but different, she would then ask us weird questions and have us try to guess the pattern of cards after hearing them. We did this for like 3 weeks straight, once a day and it ended, weird as fuck.
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Growing up in CT we had the same thing but it was called the TAG (Talented And Gifted) Program. A lot of what OP and others say on this thread spooked me out but I think a large basis for getting accepted was, of course, testing. Still, It's odd that a school district like mine that had little money could fund a program to let kids solve autism tests and go on field trips to promote multi-culturalism.
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>>115379043
Didn't Ted kaczynski get fucked up in one of these programs?
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>>115379043
Waste of time. Just like school as a whole is for any truly gifted child.
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>>115380427
>>115380719

I don't remember any hispanic or black kids in my program. I don't remember any asian kids in that elementary school at all.

I guess it can be explained by IQ distribution.

Or it was a social experiment and the all-white programs were the control.
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I was, but no military connection for me.
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>>115381096
That would be during College, in a series of studies.
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>>115379043
Ok i was in this wtf r u guys getting on about now
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Similar experiences in my GT program, but I'm not left with the impression that the implementation in my case was much beyond catering to the proclivities of smart kids. Sure they planted ideas about the transhumanist future and all that, but so did regular school.

I would rate it overall as a healthy and positive experience.
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>>115381026
Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention that I'm Hispanic. The program ended for me when I transferred to Middle School a year later.

>>115380018
Oh shit I have that.
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>>115380540
those tests are retard level easy lol

>>115380427
I dont know if there really is a connection but Ive heard about this occipital bun thing brough up several times and I noticed that the trait seems to come from neanderthals.

the two groups with highest neanderthal % are asian and white

I have doubts about the occipital bun thing being relevant though but it seems interesting
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>>115379043
>dead really well on standardized tests
>dead really well
>dead
I was in GATE in California up until 5th grade when my parents got divorced. Then my mom moved us to a different state and I never got back into the program. I started 6th grade in 1999.
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>>115379043
I was invited but I didn't go, it was in suquamish. I live 6 minutes from my old schools, why bother waking up. These threads make me regret my decision less.
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>>115379043
I was. They wanted me in sooner but I acted out too much. We learned about China and Russia in grade school. They kept the lights turned down low so it was comfy.
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Parents were at RAF Alconbury from 91 to 93, I was in the 5th/6th grade TAG class that anon mentioned above. Shit was weird, yo. Yes we were probably the smartest kids in the school, but why the curtains and the excessive testing?
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very few of us were "gifted" enough to progress to the later programs I was AMA
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>>115380018

That's the back of the skull where the spine meets? I have that.

Remember when they would check the kids for lice in elementary school? Maybe they were actually looking for that bun.
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>>115381151
school as a whole isn't a waste of time for gifted people, i think you mean american public school is


looking back on how shitty it was as an adult makes you realize why our students tend to do so poorly compared to other countries students. in general public school just dumbs itself down to the level of the lowest common denominator of kids and teachers. schools here are a mess riddled with tons of problems.
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>>115379043
Checking in. I got into this program in 6th grade and stayed in it all the way through middle school. I don't remember if it was in high school also. My standardized test scores were too high to be in regular classes, so they have me a test to see if I would be a "fit" for the program. The students were placed in isolation rooms and given tasks to complete. However, I was a horrible student until I got to college. I barely graduated high school with a 1.3 gpa. Needless to say, my counselors didn't know what the fuck my problem was.
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>>115379043
No you schizo, you were just in a military area where obviously most of the students would have military connections. And no doubt the better their parents did, so did their offspring, meaning the higher ups' children would be more likely to be in the gifted programs.

The whole point of being GT was that you were smart and "unique", so no shit you did well on standardized tests. We all did.

>>115379793
Pretty stupid, handicapping yourself in a school system already set at a level for the most retarded.

>>115379924
It's just designed to make you think differently and out of the box.


I was in GT classes from kindergarten to 8th grade, since they don't offer those things in high school. There was a whole intermediate school dedicated to the program, and something like 150 kids per grade (6-8) went to it out of the few thousands per grade in the district.
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>>115381728
>>115380018
>Remember when they would check the kids for lice in elementary school? Maybe they were actually looking for that bun.


holy fuck
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>>115381154
I'm not denying that it was dis-proportionally white and asian. I'm just saying of the different years spent in those programs I've seen a black kid or two and an indian kid
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>>115380701
I got into GATE as a child but did not attend the program or transfer to their recommended schools. According to my mom, they never told her that it was a gifted program so she never had any reason to transfer me- which I find fucking bizarre because how the fuck did they get her to have me take the tests? I have zero recollection of the time but she said they brought me to a room and did tests for a while, some she could monitor and some she couldn't. Apparently I said they had me play with blocks, put stuff together, answer questions, guess stuff behind cards, etc.

I ended up getting into another GT program around age 11 and the process to get and remain in the program was really annoying. They had tons of mandatory leadership development courses, a weird ball in the senior year of highschool where you dressed up and benefactors would randomly single you out, ask questions and maybe hire you for their companies and it seems like half the alum from my contingent ended up in government jobs. Jokes on them because I flaked and now I'm a NEET.
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I wonder what OP is trying to imply here.
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>>115381728
>Remember when they would check the kids for lice in elementary school? Maybe they were actually looking for that bun.

fuck dude
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>>115381928
Mine was disproportionally white, but so was our town.
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>>115381849
My high school didn't offer any continuation of the program either. From listening to teachers and administrators talking to each other, it seemed like they were test running the program to see if it would be worth doing or not.

I did later learn however that I scored so highly that I was in a group of students the district was keeping track of and assigning to particular teachers, catering to with changing up lesson plans, and trying to groom to be star students.
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This strange. I was apart of one in Arabi Park Elementary. We were in a seperate building on the school property. It was called the GT Program. But mine was in Louisiana
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>>115381715
I progressed all the way up until 8th grade. The high school I transferred to was in a different state and didn't have any similar program

what kind of books did you have to read?
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>>115381728
JESUS FUCK
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>>115379043
I was in GATE from first to 8th grade. They pile on double the paper work, and make you read an extra book or two. In my case I switched schools every two years but I had roughly the same people in my class.

All the other kids basically expect you to think you're hot shit, and over half of the gate kids resorted to degenerate stuff in order to impress the hordes.

first time I saw pot was in GATE. First time I saw a crack pipe was in GATE. First time I saw a gun in school was in GATE. Know 2-3 girls that were sexually active in 4th grade from GATE.

90% of them ended up insane liberal SJW's and now all the people who used to cheat off me in science call me a science denier. Pretty neat
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>>115381715
>very few of us were "gifted" enough to progress to the later programs I was AMA
>>115382262
>I progressed all the way up until 8th grade.
are you guys CIA? NSA? black cicada project? bilderberg?
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>>115379043
Berenstein Bears
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>>115381928
True i think i pnly had 1 or twp blacks kids in my program but most of use were hispanics with white skin though..
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>>115381414

For us they were easy, yeah. I always got perfect scores and my teachers would act weird towards me after. Shit was simple. It's hard to comprehend how stupid average people are.
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>>115379043

Early GATEr here. Started at age 5 in 1982. Continued til we met with some strange dude in E. Washington state in the early 90's.

Green eyes
Occipital bun
Only kid in the entire school bussed to this special program 1-2 x a week and 1 weekend per month.
Military family backgroud.
Excelled in Science, Math, Reading, Spelling and early Computer Programming (BASIC).

AMA.

The soulmate thing is very fucking strange. I'm deeplty connected to some girl with short brown hair I met once then vanished.

Anyway, the only thing of note is that the E. Washington guy whose name slips my mind until I see it then it leaves again, taught our group of 10 to manipulate groups into doing what we wanted without us being the obvious "leader" of the group.

It was fun to do in classrooms in elementary/middle school but I didn't give a fuck by High School.

Now I work in a fucking porno shop. Thanks GATE.
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>>115382426
>are you guys CIA? NSA? black cicada project? bilderberg?
Bogdanoff
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>>115381911
why is the bun so important?
Why do they need to know?

Also, GT here.
In Middle School, we had to do a fingerprint "lab" in science, which was easy and we didn't learn much.
We got pads and we stuck ALL OUR FINGERS IN and put them on the paper. I kind of knew what was going on, but even these GT kids couldn't understand.

Being GT doesn't mean you aren't a sheepling.
I never turned it in. Showed my dad, and never trusted my teacher again.

Anyone else done these "fingerprint labs" or activities in school?
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>>115379043
Gifted and talented Cornell grad, now in military staff, AMA
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>>115381728

Post of the month award
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>>115382722
That's pretty retarded anon. The government takes fingerprints if you're arrested and when you're born anyways, I don't see how you think you're "one-upping" the system here.
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You will now read the key word.

Xylophone.

The target is Donald Trump.
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>>115382262
not a whole lot of emphasis was put into reading but a lot more gets put on puzzles
they have deeper programs for the gifted and talented of the gifted and talented so to speak
that's where you get pulled out of school all together if possible
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for the 3 years that I went to public school, I was in the TAG program, then the Laureate program (which I think was the same). Mostly logic problems and some weird challenges (like a balsa support - the contest was to see how much weight it could hold). Strangely, in the 5th grade (Laureate program, we watched the Manchurian Candidate).
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>>115381414

I was reading a recent article about two possibly Denisovan skulls found in China, and there seems to be a shift in the scientific journalists' attitudes towards Neanderthals away from casting them as stupid brutes. The article even mentioned Neanderthals were the first to wear jewelry, which I was unaware of. It seems they are beginning to see that a splash of Neanderthal DNA and environments with deadly winters are the common denominator for more intelligent origin populations.
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>>115381884
The area wasn't military. There weren't many kids who had parents and grandparents from areas other than deeper military.

>>115381728
this seems so likely its insane lol
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>>115382916
Different departments of the gvmt don't have that info, so they get it from other means.
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>>115382195
I remember my middle school making up an award for me one of the years...it was awkward af during the honor roll and after even the highest graded students were called up I was called up after that for some "presidential" award and I had the same high grades as the high honor roll...

i think the "make them feel unique/special" style conditioning is a real thing and I'm glad I washed myself of that kind of thinking
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>>115380971
I also took those weird binaural sound tests, WTF? Are we sleeper agents?
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>>115382722
I did a fingerprint thing as part of a "fair" the local police did as a safety awareness thing, so in the event that I was "kidnapped or lost" (read: dead and disfigured) they could possibly identify me.
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>>115379043
shit, i was in that.
they didnt teach us math
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>>115382920
Now that you mention it there was this one overachieving Indian girl who was ridiculously good at math. She did disappear from school entirely, but I forget the alleged reason.

I don't recall any of the other supersmart kids doing anything more than getting the same sort of special attention I did.
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>>115383186
hmmm.. so they were trying to procure children for the elite

makes a lot of sense
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The military did not have a presence in my town, but a nuclear power station did, as well as Rice University. That about covers the background of the kids involved in mine.
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>>115379043
GT was fun, we got some extra field trips to museums and such and read some good books.
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>>115383122
Yeah, because they can't just request it?

And what would fingerprints do anyway? Identify you if you're dead?


>>115383083
Well I never met any who were in the military. We had a couple astronaut's children, growing up around NASA, but they were hardly the majority.
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>>115383185

We did things with sounds, morse code, 100 vials of various smells to identify and other strange shit. Didn't know everyone did the sound stuff.

No, I'm not talking about the standard in-school hearing tests. It was different.
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>>115383185
>binaural sound tests
the fuck, I only had to take a CogAT test
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>>115382426
military/dodea

so basically the gov had the ability to mainline their pet projects unto us

I started gt/tag in like 2nd/3rd grade all the way until 8th

had to take iq tests every year and they really pushed you to be creative and artistic. I think they were trying to breed liberal ideologues or something.
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>>115383043
neanderthals carried the genes for art and music..
they also had a primitive manufacturing process for making a sort of tar/glue for making tools
Europeans got the most neanderthal genes of all humans
neanderthals were also bigger and stronger as well
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>>115379043
I was in the Virginia gifted cluster program.

I was taken out of class to take super long tests.
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>>115383124
It turns out I hate attention and being singled out, so most of the operant conditioning stuff backfired on me, and caused me to avoid doing anything too much to be noticed. lol

Lifetime underachiever now.
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>>115379043
I took the test but apparently scored so low they called my parents to ask if anything was wrong with me.
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>>115383502
Everything you said applies to me.
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>>115381728
Shieeeeeeeeeet, nigga u into something

And why would they?
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>>115383359
Unlikely. I was a NEET who joined the military and did work with a security clearance before separating and moving to Indiana to work as an insurance agent.

Also, I'm non-white so I'll never make it up the "ladder" once the alt-right movement goes into full swing.
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>>115383478
>>115381911
well what part of the brain is near that bun...
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I remember Bloom's Taxonomy and making hyperbolic paraboloids out of coathangers and pantyhose. Just GT things, OP.

No cool ESP card experiments.
No remote viewing sessions.
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>>115383786
the part that controls ur dick....
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>>115381817

Yeah I hated public school and used to dream about instead going to a school that wasn't actively trying to dumb me down and indoctrinate me. Public schools need to just focus only on learning. PhysEd is definitely part of a well-rounded education but having school sports is a waste of time and money that should be put into learning.
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>>115379043
There was a program in elementary named TARGET for the smarter kids. All we did in it was more hands on things and I distinctly remember mixing corn starch and water to get a pseudo solid substance. Was mostly just better science stuff.
I just thought I'd bring that up
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>>115383694
What the fuck same here, I'm in training for something with a TSS/SCI
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>>115383416
>DoD, DARPA, TLAs (Triple letter agencies), or whatever shadowy govt organization asking for fingerprints of minors with no due cause

Anon.. as a kid, would you give your prints, a means of identification that can be used for anything, including Social Engineering and monitoring?
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>>115382920
I remember in like 2nd or 3rd grade they asked us to design our own neighborhood and set the rules and style of housing. We were the "government" and had the ability to debate and come up with rules.

I've done GT in multiple schools, and the one thing that carried from each school was that we had to sit in the dark and listen to introspective/classical music to "warm up" our brains.
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>>115381728
fuck, I have that.
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>>115380701
I was a part of the b group. They had us do 2 two week sessions every half year, then send us back to the rest of the school population.
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>>115382920
>>115382920
I remember in like 2nd or 3rd grade they asked us to design our own neighborhood and set the rules and style of housing. We were the "government" and had the ability to debate and come up with rules.

I've done GT in multiple schools, and the one thing that carried from each school was that we had to sit in the dark and listen to introspective/classical music to "warm up" our brains.
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GATE was just a first step screening filter senpai.
There's other higher levels to it. Boys/Girls state is one.

I basically would ace any multiple choice test you put in front of me even shit I didn't really study like foreign languages because I was extremely good at intuiting the wrong answers and eliminating them.

Eventually got brought to CIA headquarters for the good will hunting treatment. I said no cause it was W. Bush back then in charge but I'd easily say yes today.
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>>115383351
very very few kids ever make it to the end of the program I'm not exactly sure how far I made it but less than a hundred kids make it to the end every five years or so
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>>115381934
What do you mean? I am curious because I was put in programs like this all the time growing up and I moved around often and every time they would test me and stick me into the "classes". Obviously Im not a genius lol. This is what was always so odd to me.

I just heard about this last night and its been world shattering lol...So many similarities between me and other posts. I can link some older threads where people go more in depth on their own experiences. You can see even by the comment sin this thread, something od happened and even weirder it seems like a lot of the participants are commenting on this website often.

Sorry for the wall of text
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>>115383933
This, holy fuck same here.

Then there were the exercises where you had listen to the guy talk with the lights off and your head down.
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>>115383933
wtf
in a dark room?

jeez anon, dont tell me your dick felt tingly afterwards
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>>115383930
So instead they'll invade the public school system and fake a science experiment so that they get all these precious children's fingerprints. Yeah, that makes more sense.

What monitoring or social engineering could they possibly get from your fingerprints? Are you okay anon?
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Fuck me this thread, it sounds like something out of FEAR...
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This thread has me feeling for an occipital bun. How do I eliminate false positives? Because I'm sure I have one but need to verify because I might be nuts.
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>>115381728
Gets the noggin joggin.
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>>115380018
Neanderthals!
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>>115384068
>>115381934

Here are some older threads about this

Thread I: https://archive.is/qQkpC
Thread II: https://archive.is/wced0
Thread III: https://archive.is/d0pID
Thread IV: https://archive.is/nNVa3
Thread V: https://archive.is/WWpf9
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>>115383426
Fuck, that's what it was Morse code. I remember they would ask us what we thought the pattern of sounds meant and how it made us feel.
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>>115380018
Weird. I have this too, I was interviewed for the GT program but can't remember any of it or the testing

People always hit it when I get my haircut like it isn't very common

>>115383185
I remember doing some of this but the memories are mixed with real doctors and shit I saw on movies. It gets worse as we get older, the blurring
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>>115384229
Because they're all LARPing
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>>115384153
if you want to give out your prints like candy, go right ahead
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>>115383927
Good luck. Military or civilian side?
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>>115383361

Rice University had a presence in Bay City?
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>>115379043
Huh, I was in GT (Gifted and Talented) back in elementary to junior high school. Basically all they did was separate the smart kids from the dumb kids and we did our own thing. Nothing creepy about it.
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>>115379043
>meeting a soulmate that appeared out of nowhere and then left suddenly or randomly

What the fuck this happened to me... In my life i've had two major girlfriends and they both disappeared like you said .Out of curiosity I've tried to find them and there are no traces of them on the internet (which is pretty much impossible for girls in their late 20s)


I was in this program when I was a kid but never really thought anything about it, maybe there is something to this. I did have a major mental breakdown when I was 19 and never really recovered from it.
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>>115383426
I remember smelling different vials now, but can't r remember what happened afterward. Was it a drug?
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>>115384436
No, Granbury TX
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>>115384363
found the one that was too stupid for the GATE programs.
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>>115384064
it's not all brilliant kids that make it to the end either for cover.
in the end stage group I was in before the big reveal (where they have you take a series of tests to determine if you could choose to kill another person given the right moral incentive) there were a few obvious total fucking retards to help make it seem like a big group of fun for the ppl who washed out right before that point.
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>>115384363
No the GATE and TAG programs are all very real. I was in it, but I don't know what kind of implications this has since there are a lot of similarities between posters here.
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>>115384116
can confirm this. almost every gt class started in this manner

>>115384145

class started with teacher turning off the lights and playing a CD she said was given to her from the admin. She didn't get to choose (we complained the music was boring) and that she had to play the CD for us as part of the "guidelines" she was a regular teacher who was "selected" to be the GT teacher. She followed a guidebook
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>>115384679
Read the thread dumbass. I was in them from kindergarten to eighth grade, all in the same district.

Most of you faggots are LARPing and I would say some of you didn't even attend the classes. Though probably a good number of you did and are just making shit up, since 4chin has a tendency to pull more intelligent people.

>>115384811
They're real obviously, the weird shit is what's fake.
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I had G&T sessions in elementary and middle school. They seemed like nothing out of the ordinary. It was just a special class period that those who scored well in the normal classes got the opportunity to go to, during which we played logic games and puzzles. It tied in to trivia bowls, spelling bees, and the like.
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>>115379043
I wanted to go to gate. My faggot Mormon friend got in and two of my other friends who were socially retarded got in. I remember just walking in to the blacked out room after one of the teachers told me only gate kids were allowed in. They told me to get out and I was like, "test me, I know I'll pass and get in." Then they said I have to be chosen and was not. That pissed me off. Later the gate fags were all playing chess and this one faggot says, "I've never been beaten at chess before" there's always some retard who says that. Anyway I destroyed all of them at chess which made me realize gate is for autistic faggots.
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>>115384426
Military. Naval cryptology, interpretive side.
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>>115384064
I'm no good for psychological reasons anyway. Boy did they spend a lot of time sending me to different kinds of shrinks though to see if they could get me fixed up.
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>>115384363
>t. someone who was too stupid for GT
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>>115383500

Nah, art&music go way way back to a common ancestor. Sorry but blacks can do music and art. Jewelry is more symbolism and mating display.
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>>115384658

I don't remember anything too weird but they let us know what smells were associated with what thing. Like almonds and cyanide, sulfur and gas leaks, etc.

Most was just different natural things though.
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>>115384891
how do we know, youre not the one LARPing and making shit up? starting GATE in Kinder sound too far fetched
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>>115380018
I have the bun
take me away
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>>115384886
Oh yeah, reminds me that we had to do writing tests about liberal vs conservative things.
they were forwarded to the district, but when I asked where those went, I never got a reply.
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I was not accepted into the "gifted and talented" student program when I was in middle school in Texas and my mother was pretty mad about it and wanted to kick my teacher's asses because I read at an 8th grade level in 5th grade. I finally realized the whole thing was a sham when I was in community college in my hometown and saw "gifted kid" after "gifted kid" shuffle into the same community college after two semesters because they smoked too much weed and got kicked out of UT or A&M or Baylor for poor academic performance. I can only name one person that is doing something these days worthy of the title "gifted and talented."
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>>115384363
Stay mad, brainlet.
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>>115384725
the very last thing I remember learning at the end of 8th grade, was reading a lot of reports on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We had to read about the morality of the nuke and shit and read literature related to it. I remember discussions about the ill effects of radiation poison and nuclear annihilation.
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>>115385152
Nah, they tested in PreK at my elementary school. Simple shit, like sorting M&Ms and doing other things I can't remember since I was 4.

>>115384944
You do actually have to be chosen, typically by a teacher. Your parents can also ask you to be tested though my district had a limit of 2 request from parents.
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>>115383043
I think trying to emulate neanderthals (knowledge) is the cause of head banding and long headdresses (Egyptians, Pope etc)
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>>115379043

It was called GT program where I'm from. My English teacher recommended me to the math teacher to join it, presumably to annoy them because while I did well in English it didn't have to deal with math and I slept 90% of the time.

I passed with D's and C's because I was sleeping during lessons and eventually transferred out to a school in another city.

I don't remember much but there were a lot of activities we did. One of them made me draw a huge kirby with vectors or something. IIRC a lot of autistic/weird kids were in there.
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>>115385152
Kindergarten sounds reasonable. I don't know if it was GT, but there were special programs available in Kindergarten when I was a kid, and they started putting me in special classes in 1st grade.

I only caught a quick glance at my official record, but I know they tested my IQ at least as early as 2nd grade and there were a fuckload of standardized tests to take similar to that one.
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There's a lot of threads on double chan about this. I remember some weird things and I share many of the flags identified in the OP. I did the program from 3rd Grade to 9th Grade. Ended in 1997. I'm not comfortable giving away personal details here but I want to say that I believe whoever started this is on to something.
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>>115379043
Yes, I was in the gifted program and basically everything you've just said is pure autism. You aren't the chosen one, and the most special thing about you is the mental illness that causes you to have such retarded thoughts
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>>115380018
I HAVE THIS TOO WHAT DOES IT MEAN AM I WAS WUZ NETHANDRAL N SHEEIT?
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>>115385217
>remembering the music in the dark triggered you to remember previous testing

wtf was in that music, anons?
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>>115379043
I was in it
Never had covered windows though, my school had blinds like a proper building.
None of the personal life shit you mentioned.
In fact, I don't think any of us were from military families
And in texas, that's saying something
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>>115384995
Ah. I worked with some of them. Have fun at an NSA site. If you get lucky and end up doing actual crypto work inside a ship I hope you enjoy it. Still, working with civilians is fun.
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>>115385241

most GATE kids I knew or went to class with amounted to jack and shit..

Maybe GATE identifies potential intelligence with or without leadership abilities and the entire point of the program is to turn them into degenerate fuckheads by mid-teens to prevent them from being able to join politics or high-level positions later in life....
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>>115380018
>>115384307

I have the homo sapiens skull but with a bun, smaller than the Neanderthal's.
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>>115385388
can confirm

I was chosen by my art teacher
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>>115385495
It is 3rd to 9th grade. Arkansas here
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>>115382676
What city in E. WA?
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>>115385241
Anon, the GT kids at my school were reading 10th and 11th grade stuff. Advanced, sure, but not necessarily GT.

It's funny you mention their inability as well, since every valedictorian (5 high schools) in my district from my graduating year was someone I went to magnet school with.
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>>115382426
I'm not. I was a GATE student and have a pretty high iq at 140.

I think the reason the tested us was because they knew that their mass media propaganda would not work on us.

I have been 'woke' for a long time and I know exactly how the elite control our populations, but when we warn people we are laughed at an considered crazy.

I am now a neet that is disillusioned with the world around me and am very sad at what is happening to my white people.
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>>115385546
My reading teacher would play music, but in the light, when we were working on these tests.

It contained Theta waves, and she had a specific speaker that she played through it.

She was really nice so I didn't think much of it.
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>>115380427
I never took an iq test.
I was in another states GaT equivalent so they just transferred me directly.
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>>115385601
You know the crypto work inside a ship isn't what people do this job for.
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>>115380719
IQ Distribution. I had 3 non-whites in my 29 person class, but the school population was 90% non-white as a whole.

>>115383124
It's the "President's award for educational excellence." You got it because a teacher recommended you.
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>>115380018
>>115379043
WTF

Been many years since I was a part of it.

But I do remember it being sort of odd. For some reason the facility has smell that I remember. Very distinct every day going there. I have the bun as well.

I graduated top 3% out of 1500 kids, got STEM degree, the whole nine to become a wizard.
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In 4th grade I got pulled out of my school to go to a special all GATE school. It was weird.
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>>115384725
the program has many different ending points one of them is black ops programs typically where those who fit the right psychological profile go
they used to opt to make black ops kids but that was too sloppy and would have only ended with some of the overall program being exposed
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>>115384027
>There's other higher levels to it. Boys/Girls state is one.

This.

The secondary screening process would most likely be the interstate competition, Future Problem Solvers of America. At the time, I considered it an excuse to go on vacation and flirt with girls. But in my older age, I recognize it as a screening process for think tanks.

http://www.fpspi.org

The competition was literally splitting students into 4 person groups, giving them a potential future ecological or political disaster--for example, Global Warming--and asking them to create solutions for the prompt. Whichever group came up with the most, plausible solutions per a criteria that was specific for each meet up, proceeded to the next level.

Some of the obviously fabricated news stories regarding disasters which are neatly and conveniently discovered, then solved in the same hour bracket you first heard about them in, are the kinds of submissions we would come up with, during these competitions.

Maybe the national champions are tucked away in some white room, below the Pentagon, solving future problems for America this very moment. (Or else drafting very plausible sounding news bites to create the impression of such.) Who knows?

Not I. For better or worse, I never gave much effort in these competitions, since being alone in a room with girls my age and no adult supervision was time better used to flirt, rather than move up the screening process for whatever god forsaken think tanks FPSA was screening for.
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>>115382920
Were you ever told that you were being recorded on camera?

It was also weird that we would solve all those puzzles in dim lighting everyone seems to have shared that experience..creates a more "relaxed" atmosphere
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>>115383043
Neanderthals actually had running hot water in many of their villages.
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>>115383500
>Europeans got the most neanderthal genes of all humans
Actually asians have more than us apparently
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>>115385903
I hated those stupid competitions. I remember the chemistry teacher pulling me aside in the hallway and chewing me out for being chosen to go to one and skipping out on it.

I think that was the last time I was chosen to go to one.
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>>115385388
so why are you accusing people of LARPing? and want us to believe you, so far everything here has checked out. what if all these test were an MK ultra shitposting project that had us all unite on 4chan?
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>>115385695

I lived in W. Montana at the time.

I think it was Spokane we were bussed to 1-2 x a month. I also did GATE in San Diego but it was a weird clusterfuck. It was very focused in MT.

When I try hard to remember the hotel place we stayed at, I can never quite grasp the fucking name of it. I only really remember the Doctor guy and lots of kids dropping out that year. Would have been somewhere between 88-92. Maybe all 4 years.
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>>115385668
Florida here. 9th grade there was only 10 of us left. 6-8th was low 30s, and elementary school almost 40. Same kids the whole way too.
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If you want to ruin a child, tell them they are talented and that they can pick from the world of possibilities.

If you want to build a success, tell them hard work is the way, and that you don't give up until you find something better to do.

This is why they (and I) amount to shit. We didn't have people being realists, we had people calling out our talents, calling us gifted.
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>>115381728
>>115381911
>>115382044
>>115382307
>>115382772
>>115383083
>>115383673
>>115383964

Anybody remember them checking for lice after you went into the Gifted program? At my school they only checked for lice BEFORE I started the Gifted program, never again after that.
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>>115379043
I was in a program called TAG. Instead of going to school I would get on a bus with one other kid and ride to a college a couple hours away. It was a pretty amazing opportunity, especially since I was 12-year-old miscreant known for misbehaving and not giving a fuck.
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>>115382676
Don't trust the girl.
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>>115385827
glad not everything is a conspiracy...

but all the schizo larping aside, I just think GT was a way for higher IQ kids to get education beyond the threshold of standardization...not being held back by an artificial ceiling of sorts. Nothing truly mkultra about it
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>>115381884
>Pretty stupid, handicapping yourself in a school system already set at a level for the most retarded.
i was 11 i was scared of failure and never had anyone to help me
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>>115384027
I remember math teachers telling me they wanted me to write out math problems with a pencil and 'show my work'

I didnt have to, i could do the problems in my head, and apparently my math teacher didnt believe me. I could do math in my head that my school teacher could not.
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>>115385733
I wish I had friends like you in real life anon. I wouldn't be so depressed.
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>>115385817
I was doing work for the AF and it's been a while so I'm a little retarded when it comes to terminology. Either way, half the people either end up at an NSA site or do things for their respective branch. You said you were Navy so I assumed boats.
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>>115386012
This. The Atlanteans had working CRT televisions.
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>>115386168
we would have "lice checks" a few times a year and scoliosis checks too.
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what if

what if the very reason was to alienate sertain type of people to keep them away from become opposition to the jewish power and agenda?

fools got tricked with the word "gifted and talented program"
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>>115384116
testing your memory.
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>>115386330
some kids cheat anon
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>>115379043

I wish it was grooming for some govt agency, I was in GATE growing up and now I'm a NEET.

I also have the occipital bun at the back of my skull.
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>>115386355
I meant most people use this as a gateway to alphabet soup shit.
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For me, Gate ended once I hit High School.

Looking back it was like they evaluated our thought process, how we handle questions. Most of what I remember they tried making us good communicators.
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Went to a thing like that in AL called T.A.R.G.E.T. We learned about history and shit like that
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>>115379924
This programs where discontinued with no child left behind.
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>>115386564
Yeah but other kids don't get why you're supposed to explain what seems utterly obvious.

I once got so bored of being forced to take notes I invented a compression algorithm so that it would take fewer penstrokes. The teacher was none too happy that she couldn't read it even after I explained how to decompress it.
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>>115383862
I remember doing both projects & experiments as well as weird "card" tests and things that seem kind of paranormal looking back but at the time I thought they were testing our "creativity" or image associations and things like that
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>>115379043
I was in this program and never experienced what you did.
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Anyone else remember the weekly testicular and colon cancer inspections. Seemed pretty weird that they had to take us in a van to a separate building to do the inspections.
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>>115384891
you are the one lying.

GATE tests start in about 2nd or 3rd grade. Kindergrden children are not ready to learn about complex math and take iq tests.
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>>115386607
Really? Didn't realize. I signed up to do Intel work for the AF but I never did it to get my foot in the door with the agency or whatever. I just thought that I was going to be monitoring drone transmissions and sheeit.

Well, have fun with it. desu fampai I had a lot of fun.
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>>115386212
That's exactly the point of it. People realized bluntly applying the standards of education is detrimental to statistical outliers. Most G&T programs are on the decline though. Parents don't like hearing that their kid isn't good enough to make the cut.
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>>115387013
I can't help that your stupid state and/or district didn't test the younger children. Texas tests in kindergarten.

You also had to retest in 4th grade to make sure you didn't just scrape by the first test.
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>>115386524

This makes the most sense.

I've never been as alienated as when I was a GATE kid. Normal school kids hated you, adults expected amazing things.

Most of us ended up with criminal records and being very averse to any type of commitment whether with people , school, work, etc.

I mean, why should we bother? We are special and we just have to wait for that amazing thing to happen.

Any day now......
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When I was in we just drew stupid star shaped pictures by connecting lines. I remember not doing any actual learning.
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>>115384944
you mght have been part of the control group that was forced to stay with the niggers and dummies.

They needed to test some in a normal environment to see if their expiraments were having an effect.
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>>115386524
It makes more sense that (((they))) would want to indoctrinate people through TAG than some other group create a TAG program to protect us from (((them))).
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>>115380018
I never heard of it being called a bun, but my occipital process is pronounced. I have an Associates degree in Graphic Design, and work for an engineering firm. I make a 6-figure salary but find my job boring. I recently applied to a position with Lockheed Martin in the space program out of Littleton, CO.
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>>115386524
>>115387214
It would make sense if they didn't literally pool you all together in middle school to build connections with each other.
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>>115387013

I was tested in CA and MT in K. I don't remember actually attending until 1st. Just lots of testing in K.
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>>115384321
8 ch mods sperged out last night and deleted two gate threads. The first was at 300+ replies. I'll look for it's archives.
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>>115380427
I was the only Hispanic student in my program.
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>>115386330
i had the same problem, i got Ds in algebra II and later trig because i could figure out the complicated problems but couldnt show the work the formal way
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>>115385641
Maybe they were trying to root out potential resistance leaders... people too smart to fall for the liberal propaganda from mass media.

Nip the bud and develop a profile on us and keep tabs on us as we grow older and develop political beliefs.
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anyone remember making "shadow boxes" in like 2nd or 3rd grade GT?
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>>115387214

My group didn't mesh at all. I was from a poor family, most kids were from upper class. Had a few middlers.

We all hated each other.

That group taught me to associate anything Monty Python with the most insufferable of faggots and to never ever interact with them. It was preferable to bully them honestly.
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>>115387533
Dude, same. I guess I don't have as much Indio blood in me as I thought.
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>>115387344
>bragging about having an associates degree in graphics design

Lmfao
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>>115385493
Theres no GT in Kindergarten, but theres "accelerated programs" that weed out the smart kids from the dumb kids, they usually skip you to first or second grade depending your capacity. I was skipped to first grade a few months in from kinder. I started the magnet/ gate program in 3th grade, had to transfer to a magnet/gate/gifted school for 4th-5th grade and did some weird psychological test in the 6th grade for 3 weeks.>>115380971
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>>115379043
I took the test and got asked to join but I turned it down because they bitches at our school and made kids go to the gifted classes a couple days a week during recess.
Fuck that

And military connection. Dad was military for over 30 years
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>>115386130
I agree.
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i was in GATE until 5th grade i believe, have the occipital bun but there wasnt stuff that was too weird
mostly just logic puzzles and shit, but there was this one worksheet that was like a shitty personality test and asked what we thought snobby people were
i quit after that because it was dumb and gave me more shit to do
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What the fuck /pol/ I was in this program as a kid in elementary school in Henderson, Nevada and there were only like 20 of us in the program of which I was the only ethnic (Native American) and now you're telling me it was some psyop, agency programming, grooming or MkUktra level shit?
I think I was the only one who made it through that program and made it to high school. I later had a distinguished but very brief MCJROTC career in high school.
I have a 165 IQ that was tested when I entered the psych. program at WSU.
I'm also a diagnosed undifferentiated schizophrenic that's on their last strike with society.

DID THEY DO THIS TO ME?!
AM I PART OF SOME MASS SUICIDE BOMBER MKULTRA SHIT?!
I'M FREAKING OUT NOW!
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>>115386524
what if everyone in the gifted and talented programs and/or with bump on the back of the skull remembers it properly as Berenstein Bears?
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>>115381026
OH here, I was in TAG as well. I don't remember a lot of it, but from what I do remember it was basically reading a lot of books with group discussions, and some Independent Study projects. Nothing really out of the ordinary, nothing like what people ITT are describing.
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>>115387787
True, it wasn't quite the same thing as the 1st grade - 5th grade GT program. It was more like pulling you out of Kindergarten class a couple times a month and trying to get you ahead of the other kids, since they assessed that you could handle it.
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>>115387787
Yeah, the kids who outright skipped were a cut above. Glad my parents decided against that for socialization reasons, though.

Or maybe it wouldn't have made a difference since I was an eternal social outcast anyway until I got to college and into LSD (yes, I, too can say I got to drug dealing after living life on easymode).
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Two teachers recommended me to take the test but the school in the district for GATE students was a 15 minute drive. With both parents working, a 5 minute walk to the nearby school was the choice.
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>>115386524
I believe this. My other posts in this thread are basically me saying that the government wanted to keep tabs on high iq people and make sure we do not stand against their agenda.
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>>115379043
>americans kid are literally mentally programmed north korea style by their government
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ErKe36lHd0
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>>115388026
If you scored a 165 you definitely would have been singled out to potentially get the "tap on the shoulder" by Uncle Sam as I've heard it put.
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>>115384068
>>115384321
>>115387515
Here it is. Partially archived, missing like 50ish posts. The OP later made another thread and three mods were laughing about banning him, then deleted that thread. Someone was dropping redpills.

https://
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>>115379043

I remember being given an IQ test in first grade and being put into one of these programs.

Was taken to separate class with the other "gifted" kids I just remember doing logic games and the like, getting french language and culture lessons, and playing with legos.

Moved states after second grade and my new school was in a small town and the school had a gifted program but it was less funded or important to the school. We still went to a separate class once a week for a period or whatever until after eight grade. I can't remember doing a lot in the class, more logic games and the like, reading articles and things of that nature. I seem to remember having to do a current even report every week for gifted and we had a few books to read a year.

Took a couple of different trips with the gifted groups, we went to a NASA facility once, and in eight grade I remember all the gifted kids had to form groups and participate in the national history day competition, my group made it to nationals so all the gifted students were given a trip to Washington DC. I got to travel in those underground tunnels around washington and meet some senators and the like. Bretty gud

Dad was in the army, didn't meet my mom until after he was already out.

I made a 33 on the ACT which isn't too shabby, and I was a dumbass and 420 blazed it at a music festival the night before taking it.

I don't really have anything to add to your theory there though.
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>>115388031

I absolutely do. I refuse to accept our new Stain overlords. I fucking helped the librarian when she got new books because I knew the dewey decimal system and could organize.

ITS FUCKING STEIN.
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>>115387650
no joke when I was in 8th grade GT it was during the first obama election and of course our class had to do in depth reports about the candidates we were assigned.

They split us into a McCain group and an Obama group. I was head of the Obama group and assigned to debate. I remember the indian kid doing like loads of research into why McCain was the better candidate and bragging about how he was going to prove why McCain would be elected.

I basically read over his and my groups research and realized that McCain and Obama were nearly identical on every issue. My main argument to the teacher was that it all boiled down to Obama being black so he was going to win regardless of if he was actually the better choice, and that there really was no choice.

Truly redpilled both teams with like a 5 min quick rundown.

Indian kid had like a 20 minute spiel about McCain and it was really good.

>that indian kid's face when I actually won the debate.
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>>115388372
its actually Stayne,

t. 180 IQ moon noodle
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>>115388031
But my head is normal and I membeh Bernstein Bears.
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>>115387214
i still feel like this. but it happens sometimes, and ive made amazing things in the world of cryptocurrency
however the rest of what you said is still true and has made my entire life difficult
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>>115384394

Not an argument. You're a nutjob whose halfassed ideas cant stand up to even initial scrutiny.
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>>115388492

I made a ton building websites and as a professional writer but the bottom dropped out of that or my wife spent all my money
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>>115380472
I want to be in the CIA
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>>115380018
have this as well. are we aliens?
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>>115388372
Also, a good argument to convince anyone who was alive back then - we were always trying to decide if the name was pronounced as Beren-STEEN or Beren-STINE and even had playful arguments over it.

There was no A. But sometimes I do wonder if everyone who remembers Stein has experimented with psychedelic drugs at some point
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>>115379043
In my post above I mentioned turning it down.
One of my best friends did it and he's married to a black chick and never finished college
He was a literal genius. Way smarter than me and I ended up with a masters
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>>115388101
yes, I was pulled out of class and taken to a bungalow quite frequently from 3-6th grade. I was pulled out of class already being in a MAGNET school for assessments. I wasnt tested anymore after 6th grade, I kind of had the feeling they had some surveillance or were watching you because six grade was the year I got into going out with girls, smoking being a metal head and stopped giving a fuck about school,thats when they stopped testing me, weird shit.
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>>115388772
We are the eyes of the universe, blinded by the great filter. Those whom hide among those that call themselves the Jews.
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>>115388722
A friend of mine with what I would regard as one of the more brilliant minds I've met tried to get in but was denied. I suspect it's because he got himself a visit from the secret service as a young lad by trying to frame somebody to obtain revenge.
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>>115388947
That seems like a great candidate desu. Fucked over others using someone else's money and time. CIA seems like they'd love that.
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>>115382676
what is soulmate thing
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>>115379043
Very interesting thread OP. I was in Cali GATE, but was placed there in the last year of middle school (8th grade). I was left with the dumdums for the other two years. I think the bureaucrats thought was a first gen immigrant and didn't know English, but once they realized their mistake they put me there with the weirdo intellectuals.

>>115380701
>there were two groups of kids who were observed, GT kids who were in the class and "GT kids" who were left with the regular population

Do you have any sources? I bet I was part of the latter group if TPTB knew I wasn't as dum as the average bear and left me with the retards for 2 years as a control.


>>115380018
>occipital bun
Yeah this isn't surprising. I'm a gook and I have one too. Actually I have a pretty fucked up skull, but this isn't typical for most of the smart chinks that were in GATE.

>>115382676
>soulmate for potential eugenics

>>115382722
>fingerprinting to track

whoa these stories are eerie
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>>115379043
i was in this program. escondido, california.
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>>115388265
My gate program consisted of a small 20x5 trailer and the other students. No windows, only a single table for us all to sit at and logical puzzles.
We would start by doing advanced math that was tailored to where we were at. In second grade I was doing PEMDAS in my gate program. We never got graded we got lectured on how we did.
The second half was creative things like drawing and writing stories. I wrote a short "fan-fic" loosely based on the game Syphon Filter of the day in 4th grade. I got a lecture about the tactical inaccuracies of my story and was given a translated well read copy of the art of war by my teacher to read.

We also had to have our parents sign waivers to get in, we took entry exams and we couldn't tell anyone what we did in there.
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>>115388481
I find it so weird I barely if at remember these fucking bears. People talk about them like they were in the rl Stein or mister Rogers category which I clearly remember but not these bears

I'm early 30s
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>>115379043
I was in something similar for a year in Canada instead of normal english class.

I remember a lot of flashcards, odd passages asking about what we could tell about the writer and very vague association games.

Might have just been advanced english though, I read at a grade 12 level in grade 3
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>>115388102
same here, I was able to socialize but preferred to always keep my distance and never get to close to people from a young age. I guess thats why I never develop true friendships, I hang out with people get bored and move on. atleast LSD isnt a nigger drug and most of your clientele will be white, instead of drug dealer you could consider yourself a "life experience enabler".
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>>115389083
He taught me lots of fun tricks. I rigged the school elections. We began to infiltrate local politics.

I'll skip the middle part of the story, but now I've been part of the Great Meme War. Neato.
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>>115379043
I got invited to be in a G&T programme at Warwick University when I was 14. I wanted to do it but our family was poor and my parents wouldn't pay the ÂŁ15 membership. It seemed fairly innocuous at the time, I couldn't say much more about it though.
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>>115384907
This is how I always remembered it but I kind of felt odd about it too..Once I read all the other people with similar stories I started to rethink all of it. I know that it wasn't all about IQ either
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>>115389256
I'm early 20s. Theu were pretty big in my childhood. Must have had more than 5 of them.
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>>115388347

The Walking Dead needs to recruit this guy right fucking now
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>>115380018
Same, though my skull looks weird as fuck
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>>115379043
ITT Manchurian /pol/s who will rise up against Trump when given the code phrase
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>>115379043

I was put in at 6. We had a flight of 15, and it was fun. We started with just weekly meetups, studying what we wanted. I got to built a castle out of styrofoam packing peanuts and talk about Greek mythology, both of which interested me.

Our teacher was a creepy woman, Holocaust runner. She lost three fingers on her left hand due to 'frostbite', but spoke a dozen languages. We would ask her to speak in them randomlt, it was fun.

Around 8 or 9 the testing came in. We'd be asked about flashcards, but the big thing was this book called Stories with Holes.

If you did an actual program you'll know the book, weird clever logic questions, disguised as stories. But we weren't allowed to leave the classroom until we completed them. I remember one story, and will remember it for the rest of my life:

If he could have seen the sawdust he would be alove today.

I heard that phrase hundreds of times, over hours. We finally broke the riddle around 8pm, and parents were called. And nobody complained, even though they always bitched about everything.

We did exercises that i found out later were associated with remote viewing, and drilled 3 days a week from 8 until 13. Over those 5 years we went from 15 to 3, then I got an approval from the State to advance several grades to gtfo and deal with the fact that I had been held back in kindergarten due to an attendance issue (my ma had cancer, getting the kid to school while you may be dying didn't seem important) and we moved. My mom had our names changed.

I went back for my senior year to hang out with friends. The two still 'in program' were frazzled as fuck. The State provided for 'independent study' for them, and that combined with AP test outs made them have half the day available.

They were fried. I thought about going into the Service with excellent ASVABs, but decided against it. Over my 20s I'd hear stories.

(cont)
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>>115379043
I took the test because the teachers thought there might be something wrong with me developmentally (~ age 6 or 7, terrible handwriting, not paying attention in class, not doing homework). Turns out I was gifted (and suffering from what turned out to be clinical depression - yes, diagnosed). They didn't really want me in the program, though, and my friends who were in the program were always leaving the regular class, or given different work than I was. The only difference it made for me was I got to go on two or three extra field trips each year.

Now I'm loser virgin NEET with a college degree (BS Math), trying to decide between offing myself and joining the military. I'm leaning towards the former, because I really don't want to deal with the bureaucracy and idiots.
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>>115388031
i always remembered the BerinSTAIN bears.

this still boggles my mind to this day.

I have also seen a video of the JFK assasination where 4 people were in the back of the limo, and I 100% visually remember only 2 people in the back.
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>>115388919
hmm makes sense.
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>>115388775
>we were always trying to decide if the name was pronounced as Beren-STEEN or Beren-STINE and even had playful arguments over it.


This was the clincher for me. I remember having that argument.
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>>115379043
Did you guys ever do one of those summer things at Duke or Cambridge in the UK
My church did a fundraiser for me so I could do the duke one
Spent a month taking an astronomy class and some intro level engineering thing
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>>115380786
Oh shit, you mean like a skull?!
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>>115388775
I'm a -steiner, and I've never done psychedelics (afaik).
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>>115388347
>when an Epiphany hits you too hard regarding the crimes you committed.
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>>115389651

>did you hear Josh died robbing banks? Yeah, got shot but he got away with a bunch of money before then.
>Dan and Kelly committed murder-suicide, shooting and hanging. The note had our little symbol on it
>Kyle walked into the river with weighted pockets after screaming about the government at the state Capitol building.
>Kim got knocked up and kept having kids with anyone who would fuck. She believed she was restocking the world BEFORE a cataclysm, and made any non-promising kids wards of the State.

Out of 15 2 of us got out of that town without going nuts. Me? I had an interesting life. One of the graduates is now a very prominent engineer (you'd know him in his field, he's the silverhaired wunderkind with the crooked smile that never gets to his eyes). He talks about the Mission, a lot, when I see him. He thinks I lost my way.

The other graduate screams about animal rights on a street corner and has become a reclusive doglady. I used to have a thing for her, pine for her, she was my first kiss and first fondle. Now it's just... it's rough.

I saw the old seven fingered bitch recently. Shopping. It was like seeing a monster out of your dreams buying groceries. She knew me immediately, though I've changed quite a bit. I almost lost my mind, thinking she HAD to be dead, there's no way this crazy bitch could have survived.

I asked her what they did to us. Her reply? She said they made us glorious.

Now I drink. I don't watch movies because I always know the twist. I'm great at trivia when surrounded by folks, but don't know shit if I'm alone. And I got great at reading people. I keep it on the QT because it freaks folks out. I do my gig, it's a decent one, and keep my head.

Don't know who's watching.
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I was in it. I remember doing projects that fostered creativity and a lot of play/self learning time in elementary school. I tested out of math and reading in 4th grade and they had me tutor kids when I was in 5th grade.
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>>115379043
I was in a similar program, roughly in middle school years (started early in 3rd grade, went to 6th grade). It wasn't called gifted and talented, but it had a name that had the same meaning. I remember some flash cards vaguely, but we definitely did lots of science realted things.

I have a few relatives who were in the military and did well on standardized tests. In 4th grade I apparently missed a whole page on the ISAT (Illinois Standards Achievement Test for No Child Left Behind, I think it's been phased out now though) and still did better than the rest of my class, but that's just what my parents told me from one of the school officials, so I don't know how true that anecdote is. I also got a 30 on the ACT, which is bretty gud.

I played soccer and baseball as a kid and focused on tennis starting in junior high. I was encouraged by parents and coaches and could feel the pressure to practice more in high school, even to take private $250 lessons from this Portuguese smuck (nothing against Alberto Barbossas, he was just annoying) but ultimately passed on them and just went to normal practices after school. However, I feel like the pressure to do better in sports is normal and isn't that conspiratorial or shadowy.

I can't really attest to the soulmate thing, there was one girl I was really close to but her leaving for another college than mine isn't out of the blue or strange.

I am paranoid of many government agencies, but this is /pol/ after all so we usually are.

There are some odd patterns and similarities to the programs themselves between posters who were in one and perhaps it was used to weed out and groom promising kids for elite roles in government. Maybe there was a more sinister purpose. Maybe there was none at all and it was just to encourage young kids to succeed in school. I also feel like much of the other similarities could just be our confirmation bias. However, there could really be something here, so we should still discuss it.
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>>115379043
>meeting a soulmate that appeared out of nowhere and then left suddenly or randomly
Good (somewhat) that i'm not the only one this has happened to.
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>>115385241
>>115385641
>>115385707

There iss this whole idea that the program was designed to find potential "threats" to the system and to either get them on board with the system or to quarantine and control them so that they don't reach their potential essentially.

There are plenty of retards on this site, but it is odd how many similar personalities have all found themselves on 4chan...A lot of people say that their introduction to the site was kind of random and mysterious
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>>115380427

so....what happens if I'm legitimately 100% black and legitimately was in gifted/AP/honors/etc. all throughout grade school up to college?

sincerely worried. I know we like to meme LARP around here but thinking back I did see a oot of these weird similarities and odd connections that anons brought up.....like, I didn't even remember the covered windows or weird newage music constantly playing during lessons until some anons brought it up.

I think I mostly turned out fine (admin assistant at a consulting firm, no gang or drug history, debt free, buying a house next year) but now I'm reeeeeeally thinking back on some weird gradeschool moments
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I was in TAG in elementary school, in a small midwestern town. it was me, my best friend, a girl, and a redheaded boy. redhead is now a dreadlocked stoner who writes long political rants on facebook. best friend is now a programmer at amazon. girl ended up not actually being that bright as far as I could tell (she was also spoiled rotten by her super-wealthy mom), she married some dude and idk what happened to her after that. and then there's me, living in my parents' basement at 26 after dropping out of college twice. I'm extremely good at programming and game design and have been doing it all my life.

I don't remember actually doing much in the TAG program. we'd get pulled out of class and as many others here said, I remember flash cards, binaural tests, and other stuff like that. I remember that we would often be left alone in the classroom for (what seemed like) long periods of time, while the teacher (a weird lady who we called "Dr. [surname]", unlike everyone else at the elementary school, even the nurse) (also in hindsight there's a good chance she jewish af)

I don't know if any of this means anything but I do feel like we were conditioned. I had multiple opportunities to become an "indie games personality" and some big names in indie games who follow few other people follow me on twitter. however, my lack of social development and overly-analytical nature led me to see the lies of the progressive shitlibs and reject their ideologies, ostracizing me from their in-group mentality.

I wonder what it all mans, if anything at all. I will probably end up working some low-level government IT job here in my small midwest town for the rest of my life.
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>>115380018
ay yo what the fuck i have this and was in gate when i was young, but don't remember much about it
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>>115390473
My introduction to 4chan was very straightforward: a link from a similarly-personalitied message board. What I wish I could remember is why I came back here some years later.

But aiding the process of attracting similar personalities is quite entirely of why I picked /pol/ to be my main base of operations. Many, many others have as well.
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>>115390473
I kept seeing Boxxy gif on a basketball forum so I did a search and found the site and haven't left since
Time is fucking flying by
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>>115389248
>e were at. In second grade I was doing PEMDAS in my gate program. We never got graded we got lectured on how we did.
>The second half was creative things like drawing and writing stories. I wrote a short "fan-fic" loosely based on the game Syphon Filter of the day in 4th grade. I got a lecture about the tactical inaccuracies of my story and was given a translated well read copy of the art of war by my teacher to read.

Jesus Christ, what in the fuck

also, >syphon filter

excellent taste my man.
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>>115390501

There are black smarty-pants its just that the black bell curve is shifted to be weighted disproportionately on the low end. You're that 1 in 10,000 nigger. Have you taken the Ancestry.com dna test (most accurate)? Is that how you know you're 100% black?
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>>115379043

In NC it was called the AG Program (academically gifted), and I can easily say it had a tremendously positive impact on me.

Our AG teacher was based, and rabidly fought admin and parents who felt the program was discriminatory.

She taught us about sexual subliminal messages in Disney films like Aladdin ("take off your clothes" said at low volume, and "Sex" sky-written in clouds, if I remember).

She also had us debate whether the "Thriller" video was a subversive plot to introduce occult rituals to an unwitting audience.

I was, like, 12 at the time. This is stuff /pol talks about, it was never fruity /x tier. We also went to a Future Problem Solvers competition, which was rather ridic. But overall, it taught me critical thinking and was invaluable. Big thanks to any public school teachers on here, baby redpills.
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I was in that, they sent me to a different building for these classes far away from my regular school. I ended up installing Mortal Kombat 2 for DOS on their computers and getting kicked out.
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>>115388722
Get a degree in history or be a mormon.
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>>115390473
Searching "hentai sexy" on google after school isn't mysterious.
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>>115379043
I was in this. All the other kids in it grew up to be crazy SJWs, though that's probably because they all went to UCLA/Cal due to being above average students
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>>115386524
Likely.

I got selected but showed up late the first couple days so the teacher kicked me and my 3 friends out. All of us are redpilled. The ones I knew who stayed in are total fucking cuck.

Correlation doesn't imply causation though. I think we were just rebellious little assholes and still are.
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>>115382727
Are ayylmaos downloading info to us through an Occitan bun port? And why does my cat only come near me when I'm on chan, is he an ayylmao spy?
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>>115390473
>>115390501

Kind of reminds me of the early Founding Fathers pre-revolution when they would post their anonymous writings all over New England, basically proto and crypto memes/redpills to get the normies onboard with a full on revolt

Look up Poor Richard's Almanac, The Federalist Papers and The Anti-Federalist Papers, also Thomas Paine's writings.

They were basically namefag anons who posted their batshit ideas all over towns. Look at some of the names the Founding Fathers went by when publishing their papers.

>"As with the Federalist papers, these essays were originally published in newspapers. The most widely known are "a series of sixteen essays published in the New York Journal from October, 1787, through April, 1788, during the same period The anti-Federalist was appearing in New York newspapers, under the pseudonym 'Brutus'."

>"Although there is no canonical list of anti-federalist authors, major authors include Cato (likely George Clinton), Brutus (likely Melancton Smith or Robert Yates or perhaps John Williams), Centinel (Samuel Bryan), and the Federal Farmer (either Melancton Smith, Richard Henry Lee, or Mercy Otis Warren[citation needed]). Works by Patrick Henry and a variety of others are often included as well."

reminds me of /pol/ for some reason desu.
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>>115379043
I was in a "smart kids class" type thing at my school. It was called Cluster. There was a Math Cluster and English Cluster. Some kids were in one, but not the other. I was in both. Did really well in both. I had it in second grade, but it was cut to just 4th and 5th grade when I was in third grade (or mabye all together, I don't remember. Our school changed location while it was torn down and rebuilt so every thing was kinda weird for a bit. That was ), so I didn't do it until 4th grade again. I thought it was kickass. It was a lot more interesting than normal class (where I just did my homework ahead of time because my class was kind of retarded). Lots of it focused on logic puzzles, and real world applications (final math project was to plan and budget a month long vacation). It was specific to my elementary school afaik, and there was no middle school equivalent. However, I was in this training for young male leaders thing, but I didn't really do anything in that and my mentor gave up on me because I just played computer games. I think that had to do with all my teachers knowing I was really smart but I was failing english class because I couldn't be arsed to write an essay. I don't remember the rest of the people in that group except this one jackass who I hated

I played little league baseball and soccer. Parents wanted me to do track and field but I hated it. Did it anyway for a few years. Stopped after I broke my collarbone in 9th grade.

I do really well on standardized tests. Grandpa was Army Corps of Engineers, Aunt from same side is pretty high up in Air Force. Parents were not military. I wasn't in a military area.

I was born in 1998 so I don't think I'm in the same group as most of the people ITT. However I wouldn't be surprised if my thing was inspired by that. Wouldn't be surprised if it was to groom people for military security. That shit is fascinating, but I love cars (Metro Detroit area) so I'm a ME.

>end blogpost
>plz no dox
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>>115391097
Oh fuck I love this game. Did GATE kids really play this? I never did in TAG.
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>>115385852
Lol, I remember the odd smells too. They always made the room kind of uncomfortable..
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>>115391084
What the fuck what? In typing class I got bored and wrote a science fiction story about a video game I was in the process of designing and writing to try to flesh out the character development.

I got a copy of a book on C++ for my trouble and had a guy from the local high school come tutor me on programming for my trouble, though. Art of War might have been the more well-rounded choice, but hey that was still a nice thing to do for a student demonstrating a particular talent.
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>>115391097
holy shit this brings back memories

this was great
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>>115391348
Mormon?
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>>115391097
yup lol
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>>115385817
I used to be an "I-level" AT. I was offered an OCS package and crypto school, when I got out and turned it down.
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>>115379043
I remember being in the GT program in elementary school. Although I don't remember anything strange about it. Living in South Texas, I imagine we weren't high on the list for test areas.
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>>115379043
>set up gifted and talented program
>program ends up selecting a bunch of paranoid autists
kek
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>>115379043
I was part of the gate program in California.
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>>115379043
I owned a Gateway. Does that count?
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>>115391613
A lot of Mormons get taken in to the system. What you might want to do is attend MIT and get a degree in international relations.
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>>115380786
>>115390072
>>115382676
Every non-deformed motherfucker on earth has that "bun" thing. Fuckin' a. Do you all believe you're the fucking indigo children or something? lol.
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The woman who was in charge of my school district's program would come in and didn't want any of us to tell our parents about the quizzes we'd take. She was very specific about it. She wouldn't let us keep the problems, which I remember being very weird and being about relationships (Sally loves John, but John loves Sue) in 1st-3rd grade, and afterwards they became about business. She was a spinster, an attractive one at that, and had a gay brother who she talked about endlessly. I told her that homosexuality was a sin and her brother was going to hell. After that, no matter how quickly I completed tasks or how well I did, I wasn't allowed in to the program. Definitely suspect shit
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>>115391613
tons of CIA is Mormon

>can't be easily corrupted, but easily manipulated
>used to doing "mission" work
>raised with a moral compass
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>>115391818
This is what I was afraid of. I am nuts.
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>>115385641
>>115386130
>>115390473
>>115387650
>kill potential dissenters and leaders

Makes a lot of sense too. I'm thinking GATE programs all had multiple concurrent objectives as well as varied experiments then.

Probably the end goal of these projects was to see their take on the internet and thus 4chan. Wonder if Moot was the final GATE boss before achieving the ultimate meme-magic harnessed with the gift of the occipital bun.

One hypothesis to test is to see if those of you in GATE feel like you had really good balance (larger cerebellums?). In all my life I never fell more than perhaps a couple times.
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>>115388775
No worries guys, the new series for kids nowadays has a song and it's pronounced STAIN
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>>115392056
I broke my collarbone from snowboarding
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>>115388052
>>115381026

TAG as well here. Did a couple extra projects in elementary school and middle school, as well as an accelerated math program.

Don't remember any of this spooky shit at all.
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>>115390870
My exact thoughts....... strange
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>>115391375
>All of us are redpilled. The ones I knew who stayed in are total fucking cuck.


This is what Ive noticed too. All the kids who went on and followed the path fed tot hem by GT and discoveries and got super "tech-y" and became good goys with good grades were total establishment liberal snob types

I knew plenty of redpilled people with good grades too


If you havent everyone should look into targeted individuals and gang stalking because it seems to be related..I dont know how extreme it really is though
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>>115392056

Balance has to do with crystals in your inner ears and shit and not the cerebellum dummeh
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>>115390924
>jsp
also grooming of sorts.
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>>115391531
I'm talking about the teacher telling you you're fan fic was "tactically inaccurate" and handing you a copy of The Art of War in the second fucking grade. You don't see something suspect about that?
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>>115390635
You don't have the means to do a start up or run your own company?
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>>115392443
well, skiing, snowboarding, rollerblading, iceskating, etc. are kinda extreme tests of balance so I'm just talking about in normal day life. Walking on hills, hiking over rough terrain, etc.

It's just a hypothesis. We need more experts in neurology who have read the latest shit to tell us the latest as well as the fundamental research in this area. Wiki-level crap is too basic.
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>>115389651
I remember the word puzzles. One was about an opera singing lady and a glass dome.
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>>115392534
yeah no shit that's a part of the complete circuitry for balance.

"The smallest region, the flocculonodular lobe, is often called the vestibulocerebellum. It is the oldest part in evolutionary terms (archicerebellum) and participates mainly in balance and spatial orientation; its primary connections are with the vestibular nuclei, although it also receives visual and other sensory input. Damage to this region causes disturbances of balance and gait.[10]"
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>>115392503
Not strange to me. If you're in to counterintelligence type stuff, 4chan in general shows itself to be highly receptive, and /pol/ in particular to be extraordinarily receptive.

>>115392729
>"tactically inaccurate" and handing you a copy of The Art of War in the second fucking grade. You don't see something suspect about that?
Yeah, no, that's tell-tale. I'm not quite a 165 in a secret trailer type G&T guy, but it's obvious in retrospect that it would have to have been a multipurpose program.
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>>115390473
pretty sure I read "rule 34", wondered what the other rules were and found the origin
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From the 8-pol thread
>https://
>archive.is/xMdkI

>There seems to have been two categories of G.A.T.E. students. Category 1 was kids that after the G.A.T.E. program seemed to have been 'selected' these kids seemed to have been groomed for specific classes and all pursued advanced stem degrees or political degrees, these kids also seem to have been helped along towards that end. Category 2 are kids who 'didnt get selected'. They found themselves in positions where their education was sabotaged from middle school on, refused entry into honors roll and other things that would make children that would otherwise be high achievers give up and become massive underachievers. All /pol/acks are category 2.

I believe this. It seems at some point I didn't make the cut to be in the top tier (probably due to high verbal IQ and good reading comprehension, but terrible at math and poor social skills) so I got thrown into category 2. My grades started to suffer in high school which was much more challenging than anything up until that point and sometimes it felt like teachers were picking on me and sabotaging me.
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posting myself here
took those tests. was pulled out of vlass for them ass a little kid.
have the bun. mom always joked about how big the back of my head was.
Did mediocre in high school but somehow got accepted into uc berkeley. dont know how that worked.
currently takubg classes for premed.

as for the emotional issues that everyone seems to be bonding over, i too have a very very low will and desire to succeed. something feels dirty about it. i want to say i was sexually abused, but it might be something similar. i just dont want to do anything that would result in a pure gain for myself. its very hard to do it. buti do enjoy the feeling of fulfillment of applyung myself, but for some reason i can never hook onto it.

another weird thing... i have mild panic attacks if i try to draw. like with a pencil. normal drawing.but it soothes me if i just sketch repeating patterns.
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>>115379043
I was one of 2 kids in GATE in elementary I remember lol. Standardized testing master race reporting in.
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>>115392506
>targeted individuals

I think that just might be the physco problems that exist with high IQ, you make so many connections it feels that somebody is out after you.
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>>115391761
You are the ringleader my friend
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>>115388265
>>115388026

How were all the teachers in on this? I constantly had teachers watching me when I grew up it made me feel like I was a retarded child lol
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I was in something called the AT in pa, my rents actually put me in there but i didnt fit in because i had more literary skills. I just remember these kids in the group felt more entitled through out high school and discriminated others more often. Public schools are fucking weird
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>>115379043

I don't really remember much about GATE aside from the science experiments.

I don't recall the windows being covered either.

Family has military connections. Both of my grandfathers were in some high-level military intelligence outfits.
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>>115391148
I actually havent taken one of thise tests because I thought they were (((accurate))) scams. are they actually pretty good?
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>>115392056
Alrighty here we go:

>Cerebellar atrophy has been observed in many other neurological disorders including Huntington's disease, multiple sclerosis,[52] essential tremor, progressive myoclonus epilepsy, and Niemann–Pick disease. Cerebellar atrophy can also occur as a result of exposure to toxins including heavy metals or pharmaceutical or recreational drugs.[57]
>erebellar atrophy can also occur as a result of exposure to toxins including heavy metals or pharmaceutical or recreational drugs
>including heavy metals or pharmaceutical or recreational drugs
>pharmaceutical or recreational drugs

Don't be degenerate or you lose your meme powers
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>>115391084
Thanks Abdul I didn't know that you had that game over the pond. Game was amazing for the time and the taser was like the best weapon.

Gate was odd. It was like they encouraged individual behavior while maintaining humility and modesty. We couldn't lord our program over other students or else we might get kicked out.
My dad taught me to shoot before I entered elementary. By time I got into gate I had shot a 30-30 Winchester rifle better than some adults I knew even my dad. I weighed 65 lbs but I never fell down from recoil. Guns were my thing at a young age.
I first learned bullets don't go in straight lines in 4th grade and was dabbling in bullet mechanics and physics on my own time. When my gate teacher found out he started to teach me Euclidean geometry.

I was always pressured to be involved with sports but my parents didn't think I had the weight for it seeing as how I was 65lbs until I was 15. So when I got into high school I joined the MCJROTC my freshmen year. It was just a signature and a waiver that got me in. That same year I found out my gate teacher was now my guidance counselor. He told me to join the football team and I did. I was second pick for wide receiver not the star but still pretty good. The gate program at my elementary had shut down by time I got to high school. Apparently a lack of qualified applicants.

Long story short my family moved, my life turned to shit, I got a ged, was given entry into the marine corps even with my ged due to letters of recommendation from 3 different officers, served 2 years as 0326 and got scrubbed due to a psych evaluation failure.

I want to become a LEO or join the CIA but I have a cannabis use history now and have to wait until it's federally decriminalized.

For now I'm just a lowly local politician in a flyover state after getting elected delegate as a joke. I might be the next mayor.
Life is funny.
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>>115381728
If this was true, some teacher who was making $28,000 a year would come forward and say so.
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>>115393463
The district keeps records. There was a certain file cabinet I got into once that had all the records for all the kids in the town. Turns out my siblings scored similarly to myself.
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>>115393244
>Category 2 are kids who 'didnt get selected'. They found themselves in positions where their education was sabotaged from middle school on, refused entry into honors roll and other things that would make children that would otherwise be high achievers give up and become massive underachievers
Probably pattern-matching bias. There are smart people who make something of themselves, and those who don't. I definitely suffered academically, and felt like things were sabotaged, but I blame myself (mental illness) and my (absent) parents.
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>>115393463
>>115388026
>>115388265
I dont mean that I have the IQ, I just mean how can so many of the teachers be aware that this sort of system exists and the "normal" kids are just completely unaware.

Sorry I should have explained that better
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>>115380018

I have this.
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>>115393067
Receptive how
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>>115392866

Yeah, an opera singer and a poisonous gas for us. Then there were the twin spies and their poisoned drinks, and the surgeon's son.
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>>115383786
Occipital lobe, the vision center
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>>115393244
>Category 2 are kids who 'didnt get selected'. They found themselves in positions where their education was sabotaged from middle school on, refused entry into honors roll and other things that would make children that would otherwise be high achievers give up and become massive underachievers
Probably pattern-matching bias. There are smart people who make something of themselves, and those who don't. I definitely suffered academically, and felt like things were sabotaged, but I blame myself (mental illness) and my (absent) parents, instead of a giant nation-spanning conspiracy that somehow wormed its way into our schools and cared enough about me to make sure I never amounted to anything.
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>>115393575
How is working in local politics? Do you even get paid well?
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>>115393697
It's open to stuff that's outside of the norm. And to boot it has a fundamentally good heart overall, in spite of all the malice.
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>>115379043
You guys made me have flashbacks and now I'm going down a rabbit hole trying to remember what happened. I was pulled out of my classes in the 70s and early 80s, had all sorts of testing done and got to do some logic puzzles by myself with some teachers or psychologists. I think it started with this speed reading programming, as well as some listening to some weird sounds through headphones. I don't remember much more right now, but I was in the top 1% of my standardized tests. I got put into an IGE/ACE school soon after.
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>>115393244

>Its not my fault im a loser, i was sabotaged after failing out of an ambiguous series of tryouts for chosen children.

LMAO
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>>115393923
Oh thought you meant spoopy stuff
Hey I like you
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>>115382676

>The soulmate thing is very fucking strange. I'm deeplty connected to some girl with short brown hair I met once then vanished.

Ok, this is getting weird.

I had this same thing happen to me a few years ago. Met some drop-dead beautiful girl whom I started an online relationship with. Connected rather strongly and quickly, then she just bitched out on me all of a sudden, and blocked me.
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>>115393674
What does it feel like? I have a small hard bump at the back, nowhere near as big as the pic though.
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>>115379043

This thread was on 8ch net x last year.

Yeah, there seems to be something to it.
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>>115379043
It's moment's like this that make me glad I went to catholic school.
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