This sort of thing is not good for a democracy. Agree or disagree?

Fuck democracy

Go read some Plato kid

>>114260308
Yes

I noticed The Onion and Dailystormer weren't invited either, what's the difference?

>>114260308
Agree.

The free press is a cornerstone of democracy. You can hate them all you want but they're necessary.

I agree with McCain when he said, "This is how dictators get started." Hitler disassembled the free press, so did Putin, and so did Lenin.

>>114260308
>not good for a democracy.

This doesn't inhibit peoples right to vote, dipshit.

CNN isn't entitled to press briefings or anything really. The president doesn't even have to host press briefings he can do what he wants.

The press aren't democratically elected

They're actually bad for democracy with the power they wield

>>114260556
true

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Stepping on Donald's private property is a violation of the NAP

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>>114260638

>CNN
>FOX
>MSNBC
>Brietbutt etc...

If you get your "news" from these you should immediately neck yourself.

>>114260308

Kill yourself David

they aren't news organizations, they're media companies.

big difference.

besides, CSPAN broadcasts everything, what the fuck do you needs CNNs contextomy?

>>114260308
>This sort of thing is not good for a democracy.
How ? They can't go to the WH but they are still allowed to shit all over Trump 24/7.

It's just mediatic war.Trump is in war with the MSM.

>>114260308
Disagree. Freedom of the press is a right that they still have. Access to the White House is a privilege they no longer possess. Learn the difference or kill yourself

>>114260690
>The free press is a cornerstone of democracy
How is this stopping free press? They're still able to print a story without being censored.

>>114261122
and where does a king nigger like you get his news?

>>114260638
the difference is, in liberal minds, only the corporate owned media is actual "press" that is protected under the constitution. They also seem to believe freedom of press doesn't mean the people can report on whatever they want, it means you cant criticize the MSM corporate media for being wrong.

>>114260308
If you haven't realized it yet, Trump/Bannon are literally trying to destroy our democracy. Go read up on some Dugin and see their ideological basis for doing so.

>>114261321
you're posting on it right now

Well, it doesn't really have anything to do with democracy, but it's not good in general.
As much as I want to see CNN and their ilk burn, this isn't the way to go about it.
They should be forced to report news honestly, and severely punished when they don't, not blocked from participating in important stuff.

>>114260308
Fuck democracy.
Democracy = mob rule where the largest group of idiots run the show

>>114261198
This is simply what the press does. They shit all over pretty much any president so long as there's good stories to be had. Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, GHW, GW, etc.

Do you know what happens when you're a president and you call the press the enemy? You get impeached. This is exactly what happened to Nixon.

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>>114261386
>Getting news on a satire board

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV8m173g_1M&t=20s

^^Its a good thing when CNN fans the flames of the uppity negro problem

>>114260308
Agree

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>>114261494

>the press shit all over Obama and Clinton

u wot?

>>114260308
Your 'democracy' has never been a real one and will never be.

Enjoy being manipulated to sacrifice your life for israel and eat another 5 big macs

>>114261455
well, when you are invited to sit in the press room and here direct quotes, and you STILL completely butcher statements that are made to mislead and inflame american society, your presence is doing more harm than good to democracy.

Being barred from the press room is an embarrassment to your organization, nothing more.

As much as I hate fake news this was a bit to far

>>114260308
What does shitty media has anything to do with democracy?
Its a privately owned company with its policy to be biased in reporting and pretending to be "unbiased".

I really do not see the problem with his ban.

>>114260308

CNN has been demonstrated to have an agenda many believe to be broadly anti western, specifically anti American in bias towards certain idealogies. given their enormous power, I find that far more dangerous than ensuring access every time someone in the WH passes gas.

CNN needs to learn that it needs us more than we need them. thus balance is restored and they can go back to shitposting about celebrities or start offering real unbiased coverage.

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>>114261663

Uhhh...

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>>114261538
>getting news from a profit-driven media corporation

>>114261156
it included the nytimes and the latime, anon

>>114260690
You are just stupid nigger, try looking outside of your box. Our legit media is on the internet now, not on the TV that no one watches. Corporate media doesn't just get a pass to do whatever they want while getting to shit all over the small media on cable and the internet.

Free press means the press is free to report on whatever the fuck they want, and they do, and they will. It doesn't mean they are absolved of criticism, and it sure as fuck doesn't mean it only applies to media companies deemed legit by massive corporations.

They dont need access to the white house to be free, that is a privelege given to certain outlets. Onigger set the precedent by fucking over fox, so here we are.

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>>114261663

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>He was Hitler all along
Well played Trump.....well played

>>114261729

It's another fake story. Nobody was banned from the White House. They held a special meeting with certain outlets and the groups that didn't get invited threw a hissy fit like the entitled cunts they are.

>>114260308
>democracy
IT'S A REPUBLIC lel

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>>114261382
>Trump/Bannon are literally trying to destroy our democracy. Go read up on some Dugin and see their ideological basis for doing so.
>Dugin
>Trump and Bannon's ideological basis
>This is what neocons actually believe

Notice that "doesn't invite news organization" became "blocking news organization". This is the shift of language you want to look out for. That's the exact moment when liberals try to pretend that losing a privilege is an attack on their rights.

>>114260308
Were they allowed in the press conference, ie was it only the "gaggle" they weren't allowed into?

>>114261786
This. News should be state funded non-profit.

>>114261643
A private lunch is not the same as a daily WH press gaggle, with the latter being much more formal than a private lunch.

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Stop worshipping democracy.

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>>114261786
>thinking I get news from a media corporation

>>114261684
I'd argue it'd be better in the long run to make an example of them in court rather than just keeping them in the dark.

>>114261858
What do you categorize as real news? Breitbart? Infowars?

>>114260308
>This sort of thing is not good for a democracy.

First of all, can you define democracy?

Do you know the difference between democracy and republic?

Do you know which of these systems of government is guaranteed to us by our constitution?

How is anybody's voting franchise threatened by these subversives not being allowed access to a presidential briefing?

>>114261663
Hey hitler!

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>>114260308
Talk shit, get hit

>>114261737
>what does media has to do with democracy
oh boy

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>>114260690
Does Canada even have free speech?

>>114260308
(((news organizations)))

>>114262049

>it's different because they are lunch

I would argue that the lunch was more formal, seeing as the president attended himself. This wasn't a normal press conference, the propagandists weren't entitled to attend.

Smash corporatist media

>>114261938
no it was not a special meeting, that's the difference.

>>114261964
>being this naive

>>114260690
>Putin
here we go again the russiand boogaloo
hitler and putin are totaly the same thing

>>114260308
Nice loaded biased question

>>114260308
Disagree. They were attempting to promote a socialist government with Globalist intentions and were shilling hard for that agenda.

American news is suppose to be impartial and just report the news. Even a liberal pussy would have to admit these MSM bastards were biased for Hillubeast. Now the counts are still shilling against our president.
Fun the MSM. WE DON'T NEED THEM. There are many others that aren't corporate shills, socialist shills.

They deserve it.

>>114260308
>>114260690
Good thing America isn't a democracy then, eh?

>>114262354

It was a special meeting. This wasn't a normal press conference. Obama did the same thing, only he excluded right wing outlets and he met with the outlets personally.

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>>114260690
>I agree with McCain
That's where you fucked up.
Never trust a globalist.
Their aims are always to push the Jew World Order.

>>114260308
There is a simple Question which should be answered?
Which dictator didn't figh against the free press and which democratic leader fought against the free press.

>>114262012
Nork poster

>>114261494
>You get impeached. This is exactly what happened to Nixon.

Nixon was never impeached you fucking dolt.

It's fucking beyond me why all you third world parasites who know nothing about our history or system of government decide to weigh in on subjects of which you have zero fucking knowledge.

>>114262358

Not an argument, faggot.

>>114261494
Nixon wasn't impeached

>>114260308
what so we should invite Mad Magazine, Kracked, and the Onion too?

>>114260308

NO ONE GAVE A SHIT WHEN OBAMA DID IT

Democracy can suck my fatty.

>>114261122
>Tries to put Breitbart on the same shit tier as MSNBC and CNN
No anon, that's not how that works.
See, Breitbart actually has a good track record.

>>114260690
He's not disassembling the free press you enormous fucking faggot. There isn't a single medium we have that CNN can't sit on 24 hours a day saying whatever they want about Trump.

>>114260534
>Plato
Sorry im not a commie

>>114262012
not necessarily, I'm just responding to the implication that these corporations are the only legit source of news, which was later proven to be misconstrued: >>114262067

>>114262012
The problem is that state-funded news is called propaganda.

>>114262613

Every president in our history has fought the press. Hell, our second president, John Adams made criticism of the President illegal. FDR bullied the press into hiding the fact he was in a wheelchair. Vice President Agnew was the Trump of the 20th century.

CNN is just fucking assblasted and they're losing ratings by the day. They are so desperate right now, they will do or say just about anything to get people to listen to them.
Fake news is fake and they will edit and scrutinize anyone who disagrees with them. They've been doing this for decades.

>>114262473
>Even a liberal pussy would have to admit these MSM bastards were biased for Hillubeast.

That's where you're wrong, I've had to argue this more than once with a couple family members.

>>114262887
i was thinking of presidents after WWII

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>>114260308
media hate thread?

>>114262358
>The works of a russian eurasianist nationalist who hates the west are the ideological basis of two american nationalists

Don't you realize how retarted this is ?

>>114262953
This. There are plenty of people out there who have convinced themselves 100% the mainstream media were aligned with Trump.

>>114260690
and this is a bullshit argument, filled with false equivalancy.

FREEDOM OF the press does not mean you have to TALK to the press. The press doesn't like the administration freezing them out? that's cool, they'll have to make up their stories without those comments.

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MSM is openly inciting the public to assassinate democratically elected officials

Well yeah, that sounds like it's very good for democracy.

>>114262098
in court for what? we have the first amendment, which means they can pretty much say anything they want against a public figure
you have to illustrate how untrustworthy they are. If you're getting banned by the president of the United States, people are going to want to know why.

>>114263075
My problem was they were more arguing that they were fair and the media is still unbiased.

If CNN or other networks want to blatantly disrespect the president at press briefings, as they've done several times before, why should Trump or Spicer invite them back? There's a difference between asking tough questions and telling the fucking president of the United States that he is acting inappropriately to his face...

>>114262284
>oh boy
I'm listening.

There is qualitative difference between (((media))) and media.

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>>114260690
LITERALLY HITLER

>>114260690
Jewish media also known as MSM only give you news their corporate buddies want and the narratives they want.
The MSM has been ignoring conservative issues and saying you cant decrease immigration.
I would love to see the jewish ass kissers in media burnt to death.
Ignoring shitskin crimes is also why they should be round up

>>114262787
its all heavily biased one way or another. Right leaning propaganda is still just propaganda .

>>114260308
I don't understand what the problem is? Tabloid have never belonged in White House briefings.

>>114263055
I know its retarded, but here we are. Do Bannons insane ramblings not have everything to do with insane ramblings of Dugin? I mean, they are reading from the same hymnal. Get your head out of your ass

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>>114263013

"Fought free press " is a bad term, as this isn't what Trump is doing. He's being critical of the media and favoring outlets that are favorable. Every president has done this. Hell, Obama openly said Fox News was a "propaganda arm of the Republican party".

What Trump is doing is nothing new at all. The media's deception on the issue is new.

>>114263221
Or showing up and asking questions about your own news network constantly making it about you.

>>114263173
Only thing would be libel, that's if they can actually get concrete proof problem is Trump says outlandish and sometimes stupid things to distract them from what he's actually doing.

>>114263173
Don't you have any libel laws over there that you can use against them?

>>114260308
CNN? I wholeheartedly agree

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>>114260308

The press having an adversarial relationship with the President isn't great for democracy; but its better than them being docile obedient little propagandists like they were for Obama.

https://youtu.be/1WrZKgTNE0g

Ideally we'd have a free press that weren't subservient to the two party system; but that's not the case.

>>114263269
so (((media))) means every news paper who is not only an internet blog ?

>>114263221
This.
Those that want respect, give respect.

>>114263365
It's the whole leftist collectivist defense tactic. They bundle all the news media together as if it was one entity. The failings and misdeeds of CNN become every media outlet's misdeeds and problems. CNN being criticized means the idea of the press itself is being criticized. People are seeing through it, finally.

McCain blows dogs for quarters, you heard it here first.

$.25 buys a room for the night, and there are lots of happy dogs in AZ trying to evade ICE lately

>>114262098
the problem is when they get threatened with legal action, they either pull the article entirely or edit in a "was just a joke bro" comment. at that point the damage has been done

>>114263305
The left would love for that perception to be the case.
There's a reason the alternative right-leaning news outlets are slaughtering the left, and it's because they're factually more reliable.
Their track-record already speaks to it, especially Breitbart.

>>114260308

Media has to own up to being wrong and lying on occasion. The way they act, they have never done anything wrong. Not surprised they're banned. I'd ban them and my political outlook is far from Trumps.

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>>114260308

>>114262790
this

>>114260308
The government should not facilitate the production of propaganda against itself. It's completely insane.

>>114263604
Can't you sue regardless of whether they change the article or not?
If not, that law really is worthless.

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>>114263509

What Trump did was had his press secretary hold a meeting with favorable outlets, something every president in history has done. This is a non-stop.

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>>114263332
>Bannon is a white nationalist
>Bannon is inspired by Dugin

Pick one.

Can someone here point me to a CNN "fake news" story?

>>114263509
You did not answer my question.
What has banning few shit throwing organizations who do not report objectively has to do with america not being a democracy?

Democracy is a liberal invention.

>>114260690

The media aren't even taking responsibility for lying. They need to be held accountable when they are caught spreading fud.
>fuck trump and fuck the media getting away with being lying propaganda spewing cunts

>>114263874
Did i say Bannon is a white nationalist?

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>>114263882

>it's a Trumpkins will defend everything he does episode

>>114263630
Why do you need to hear someone else's opinions so badly? That's not news, its punditry. one step above blogspot.

>>114260308
it doesn't affect it one way or another

disagree. we're not a fucking democracy. we're a republic. if the president wants to say you're not bringing you're lying globalist mouths to a presser that's fine. your org still exists so stop fucking bitching. our patience has its limits.

>>114261245
>Learn the difference or kill yourself
edgy as fuck my man

>>114263509
Its a free market. If they do not do their job properly there are other organizations who do their job properly.

Did RT get banned? (Russian public relation company). And why not?

>>114263977
Did cnn actually do this? Blogosphere yellow journalism seeped to far into msm.

>>114263884
you did never ask a quesiton ?!
ok i give up, if you think that breitbart is more objective than the NYT or the Washington Post than we cant have a normal conversation.

>CNN doesn't get invited to one private event
>Cries

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>>114264037

>>114264132
no it's not a free market if someone can decide who will get resources and who will not. That's not a free market

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>>114264211

Why do you think something like that is beneath CNN?

>>114260308
IF they were actually "news organizations" it would be a bad thing, but they are definitively not. At least not anymore. As an anon said above, the Onion didn't get invited either, and that is actually worse than not inviting CNN. At least the Onion knows they are making shit up.

>>114262887
actually i heard the press were pretty nice guys back with FDR when they didnt absolutely double down and go to town on his wheelchair.

if trump injured himself it would be top story instantly, even if it were a paper cut. that is what the current ((media)) sounds like

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>>114263874
>Cocksucker blaming whites for what the god damn Jews did
See, this is a big problem. Mother fuckers are blaming us for the machinations of the Jew, and non-whites understandably have a much more difficult time telling the difference between a white and a Jew, so they can't see the string-pullers nearly as well.

>>114260690
Those are not "free" press. None of them are. They are corporations to promote the political agenda of whoever pays them. They don't represent the people or their interests. Instead, their job is to try and convince the people of ((their)) own interests. None of them have served the interests of the public good for a very long time. CNN, WaPo, NYT have all proven how easily they are willing to shed all pretense of unbiased reporting when they were literally reporting blatantly false and misleading news right through Nov 19 2016. From Trump's veteran comments and the baseless allegations of racism/antisemitism which go on to this very day shows that none of these msm corps can be trusted beyond what they actually are: unregulated and unaccountable sleazy advertising agencies.

At this point, it's just common sense to allow only the ones who have your side (for now).

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>>114260308

I'm amazed this isn't illegal desu

>>114263874
>not learning how to doublethink and accept them both as true
prole

>>114264354

>the white house has to meet with every person who calls themselves a journalist anytime they meet with any outlet

>>114261952
republics are a form of liberal democracy

>>114264354
So your performance should not determine your market value?
Can you be more stupid?

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Good. Fuck CNN AND fuck everyone crying over them.

>>114263882
Cuomo stating outright that it was illegal for the public to read the wikileaks emails.

>>114260308
You mean lying press? Agreed.

>>114260690
A

>>114264441
It's not unusual.
Obama blocked Fox many times.
Every President has their preferred media outlets.
The left does love to lie using omission, though, so I can understand the average person not being aware of it.

>>114263977
Is it not a major news story that Trump campaign did allegedly regularly speak to Russian officials in the same election that Russia allegedly hacked into campaigns/political organizations and leaked the info it found an an effort to swing the election? And not even bigger news that Trump admin denies the contacts even tho Russian officials have repeatedly said there was contact? How is this not worthy of headlines and a push for investigation?

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>>114260308
>not good for a democracy
>democracy is a degree of choice

i vote for OP to kys, and fuck the whiny press.
there's your fucking democracy

ALL IN FAVOR

>>114264375

The media got really bad during the 1980s. During WW2, FDR was explicitly censoring every newspaper and movie because of the war.

>>114263947
A lot of people who criticized Bannon said he was a white nationalist.

But anyway,what Dugin says only works for Russia.His ideology only applies to Russia.You can't be american and a Dugin follower.It doesn't make sense.

Seriously,Dugin is a fucking nazbol,does Bannon has anything to do with national-bolchevism ? What exactly does his ideology have to do with Dugin's ?

>>114264441
It is not a right to be inside the white house. It is not a right to ask Trump or his team questions.

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>>114263671
It's completely different when the government does it, since you are forced to fund the government at gun point with your taxes. When a private company does this, people who are offended and alienated by their actions can respond with a boycott.

If you don't like refugees, you aren't forced to buy your coffee from starbucks.

If you don't like people who are against gay marriage, you don't have to buy your lunch at chick fil a.

If you don't like a president who openly refuses to answer questions that are important to you, your tax money will continue to pay his salary, and there is nothing you can do about it that wouldn't put you in jail.

>>114260690

press can't be free when it's owned by a handful of jews

that's the real problem, it's not some anti-semitic conspiracy theory, democratic countries have taken steps to break up oligopolies in media because it's a threat to democracy

brazilians should know, the reason Dilma got impeached so easily despite not committing a crime was because the entire mainstream media was against her, even if they outright don't say what they want and keep their bias at bay they still get to choose what they cover and that can be extremely harmful in itself

>>114260308

It should have been conditional.

If Trump's admin wanted to, for example, bar these outlets from attending until they made a formal apology for running that story about the prostitutes, then I'd be okay with it.

Him being a colossal baby and banning outlets like this only makes him look bad.

>>114260308
The press should only be free when Democrats are in charge. When Republicans are in power they should shut up if they know what's good for them.

>>114260308
CNN needs to be dismantled.

>>114260308

This is why only half the country voted?

Wrong. Unlimited democracy fails because people did not earn their right to vote, and thus they hold no value for it.

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>>114264618

The headline is intentionality deceptive in an effort to shift the narrative. By the time the media lynchmob was out to get Flynn, the FBI had already cleared him. It's classic propaganda.

>>114264616

Doesn't change anything,. obama was in the wrong

>American """""""freedom""""""

>>114263882
CNN Chris Cuomo said it was illegal to possess the Wikileaks documents
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DcATG9Qy_A

CNN covers unfolding crime stories happening in two different cities from the same parking lot. Basically they are just pretending to be in two different cities.
> http://www.cc.com/video-clips/9x4jrq/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-the-standlot

There are literally hundreds if not thousands of examples of CNN misleading people and outright lying. People who work there are humans. Some will lie. Some will make mistakes. Some will be corrupted to spread fud etc...
>Myth that the media is perfect is a retarded myth. There are countless examples the prove it.

>>114264502
the marketvalue is meassured by the salesnumbers. What are you even talking about

>>114264480
>any person who calls themselves a journalist
no but it would be not bad if the biggest newspapers and newsagencies in the country whould have acces.

>>114264816

Nobody was banned, Spicer held a private meeting with favorable outlets, just like every president in history has done.

>>114260308
I don't give a fuck about democracy

>>114262303
(((quality posting)))

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>>114264892
He's not silencing them, you fucking drama-queen.
They have a 24 hour news channel. They can still say whatever they like, they just can't do it at the white house.

>>114264869

The FBI cleared Hillary too.

Anyone who agrees is a retard. The kikes who own these outlets belong in an oven and that is final. How can you not see it? They're responsible for the political beliefs of the average city American.

>>114264924

>it would be bad if the biggest newspapers and media outlets didn't have access

THEY HAVE ACCESS. ffs, it was a single private meeting, just like every president in history has done. I could understand your argument if he banned them from press conferences, but that's not at all what happened.

>>114260879
/thread

you could argue anybody with an internet connection and a basic grasp on grammar is a journalist.

>>114265073
>t. kike

>>114260308

So why didn't you say something when Obama did it? Is it because you're a fucking communist?

>>114265108
I think they still can, it was an after presser briefing they were denied. Though maybe more than that?

>>114264272
>Nobody wants to go to the prom with me. . . REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Funny isn't it?

>>114264924
>>114264910
Is this objective reporting? All those reporting comparing Trump to Hitler? (((polls))),

Are you saying the banned organizations are doing fine job reporting? They aren't biased at all?

>>114264402
Yeah,even the most intelligent non-whites are blaming us for what the jews and the good leftist goys did.For them western civilization can be summarized as the degenerated modern western world.

>>114264472
How can you be a white nationalist and suck the dick of a guy who is constantly hating on white people and western civilization at the same time,leaf ?

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>>114260308
We are a Republic faggot

>>114260879
>The press aren't democratically elected

Not everything democratic is good and not everything undemocratic is bad. The American government was founded by people who strongly believed this.

Anyone opposed to Trump's actions is caught up in the inertia that the TV / print based media has benefited from for the past 15 years during which the cyber has truly been taking over. Just because your grandpa got his news from some outlet doesn't give them any particular authority nowadays. I am especially suspect of those which are now international conglomerates with the media arm as a sideline.

>>114265109

That doesn't justify the intentionally misleading headlines. The same misleading headlines used in this story as well. Everyone is led to believe the media organizations are "banned" from the White House, when the reality is they weren't invited to a private meeting.

>>114264618

It's a shit conspiracy theory. There is no substance to the big bad russia conspiracy.

There will be no investigation. They don't want an investigation because they know they have fuck all.
>obama is a muslim and trump is russian spy
>conspiracytards

>>114265109
The FBI never closed its probe into the Clinton Foundation though

>>114260308
CNN has the right to be propaganda spewing, globalist shills. We have the right to tell them they are fake news. The White House has the right to exclude them from press conferences. And that is how free speech works.

>>114260308
if the news are fake, why let them continue to lie to citizens, arent you as president required to protect your citizens from any harm, inculding missinformation ?

Good thing this is a republic not a democracy...

>>114265150
I'm with you senpai.
Throw them in the ovens before they can preach and propagandize more dysgenics to the nation.
Like immigration is good and (((our shared values))) and why we should let in rapefugees.
The kike media and everyone presently working at the big msm studios should actually have their lives deleted

>>114260308
>This sort of thing is not good for a democracy.

Disagree. It invigorates democracy and aggravates the media. They smell blood, Trump and his purchased cronies are dead.

They are going to be living up this administrations arse forever. The media will be following around these cunts until 20 years after they are dead. Every meeting, every phone call, every statement. Give it a few months and they will have to send Spicer up a tree with a megaphone to talk to the press.

>>114264924
system of government has nothing to do with banning few organizations from press conferences.

They still got all publishing and reporting rights. Nothing changed. Literally.

They will just report their version of story a bit later. That's it.

>>114265109
>deleting evidence of confidential emails
>talking to an appointed ambassador

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>>114263280
Not even Hitler can compare

>>114260308
He just didn't invite them to the briefing, he didn't "ban" them from the air, they're still free to say whatever the fuck they want.

>>114264688
Bannon follows the same criticism of western liberalism, the same focus on traditionalism, the same affinity for interest-based foreign policy and world order (as opposed to an ideals based one that has defined the West since WW2.) they both believe the governments of the west must be crumbled to prevent democratic ideals based on human rights from taking over the world. They hate globalism, they hate the idea of absolute truth or that some ideals of morality are universal.

Check out Dugins 4th Political Theory- it is not solely russian based, it is a ideological foundation for Putin style nationalistic kleptocracy that they would like to export to the US and Europe. This campaign has been quite successful so far, likely will get more support in this years european elections

>republicans turn into the liberals they claim to hate

this is fucking great

can people please post your best media corruption memes?

warring with normies on normiebook right now, need ammo

>>114261336
There's the law, and there's the spirit of the law. Donald Trump has the legal right to complain about media orgs and ban certain media orgs from entering White House press events, but the idea of freedom of press is that you don't want the government to control the flow of information. Everytime Trump speaks out against a news organization or bans a news organization as "punishment" for what they've said about him, he is undermining freedom of press.

What's funniest about this whole situation is the people defending these undeniably authoritarian actions are the same people who were screaming bloody murder for the mildest slight of Fox News by Obama.

>>114264869
They didnt clear flynn, thats the fake news. These investigations are ongoing

>>114264498
I thought 'lel' was a sufficient tell about the humorous intent of the post but apparently it ain't

>>114266111
explain your statement minervafag

>>114261321
DJT's twitter

>>114266154
>There's the law, and there's the spirit of the law.
The letter of the law is the spirit of the law. Ask any lawyer. "spirit of the law" is a layman platitude that means nothing.

As long he isn't blocking all news outlets I don't care.

CNN (and MSM altogether) are acting like entitled cunts. Good riddance.

>>114266154
>bans a news organization as "punishment" for what they've said about him, he is undermining freedom of press.
this is the most kikeish post I've read in a while.
there is literally no connection between these two points, but you present your statement as if you actually believe it. free press still exists, it's just E! News, sorry, CNN, isn't allowed to sit in the press room.

>>114263280
Literally worse than Hitler. He didn't even give them a warning to shut up.

>>114264816
>Him being a colossal baby

Right. Him calling them out for months leading up to this and them refusing to act civilized makes him look like a baby and not their whining that it happened.

>>114266243

its quite clear

republicans are now doing everything that the liberals have been accused of doing for years

they've become the very thing they hate

>>114260308
Fuck if I know. Luckily we're a constitutional republic. Not a democracy. The constitution says nothing about allowing hostile opposition forces access to the WH.

>>114266154
That's a bit strong view. Defying a freedom of press.
Ether defend that statement or don't put those words together without context.

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>>114260690

>>114260308
Notice how the same people who colluded to destroy opposition by labelling it as "fake news" are now angry at being excluded

>>114265477
You are deluded by your Trump-love, pal. Even the congressional republicans are starting to line up to call for a truly independent investigation. As if 3 sr advisors resigning in 3 months surrounding Russia ties/communications isnt enough for snoke for any rational person to want to get to the truth about where that snoke is coming from. Add in a crazy amount of long standing and well documented tie from Trump to Russian mafia types and its a fucking huge red flag that something shady is happening...but just keep your head in the sand.

>>114266159

The (((Congressional))) investigations are ongoing, but the FBI cleared him in January. The fact that Democrats are relying on the Logan Act to paint him in a bad light is the most obvious sign that they have nothing.

>>114262672
Yeah. Also saying fuck you to a media company or the media in general isn't an impeachable offense. Nixon's troubles were election fraud, wire stuff, and then abusing his power in covering it all up. Worst of all he was way ahead in the polls and didn't need to be doing any of it.

>>114260308
just the fat cats crying.

>>114260308
What's the purpose of press anyway?

Why can't you just publish raw footage of press briefing instead of writing articles on it? Maybe transcript on top of it.

Back in the times if some important person delivered a speech and you weren't around, then yeah, it was nice to have journalists to spread it, but seriously, it's the current year of 2017!

>>114260308
>dumbfuck provides shitty framing for his delusion
it's ambivalent. you're pretending something else happened an i'm not interested in discussing your delusion.
also, why are you here? you're not welcome here, you're too stupid and too much of a fucking leftist. you need to leave.

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>>114260308
Oh no this is a dictatorship

How will they possibly know what is said at the press briefings now?

Oy Gevalt it's another shoah. Nazi Donald Trump who is known to having thoughts about racist white supremacist David duke has blocked our humble unbiased gallant organization from partaking in the crucial part of democracy. Is Donald Trump worst than Hitler? This is the question we need the country to be asking ourselves now. How can someone block us from a briefing when all we are doing is giving unbiased fair news coverage to the masses?

>>114266882
No you tard. Fbi is still pusuing this investigstion...remember the one Preibus tried to influence earlier this week?

>>114262787

As much as Breitbart is in 'our' corner, it's still flat out propaganda. How can you not see that?

>>114260690
And what are we suppose to do when the media twists all facts and spins their own narrative 99% of the time with malicious intent that is borderline sedition and wastes time asking the same questions over and over looking for a small slip up in words to make another false story out of during a finite time limit preventing real questions from being asked?

>>114266745
Yes, and no Canadian on this board would claim that our government is a shining example of what a government should be. Though there are (thankfully) some politicians who are standing up for free speech and are leading in the polls for Conservative leadership.

>>114263882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL1m6_PHM2c

>>114267253
Ask Breitbart

>>114260308
This has no effect on the country being a democracy or not you niggerfaggot.

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No. The corporate media is the biggest threat to democracy since it controls the minds of people more than any politician ever could.

I wish they could be banned fron the country, but what's really happening is that a few of the worst ones like Buzzfeed don't have access to the White House. That's it. A lot of other outlets do, and CNN and Buzzfeed are still free to spew their propaganda, as sad as that is.

The MSM constantly tries to suppress free speech, they don't deserve any in return.

>>114264064
Punditry is news if it's accurate. There isn't a difference between cross fire or the daily show, they are pundit outlets but also news outlets that use and report on current events. As long as what is being shown, discussed and reported is factual and accurate, it's not falling into fake news. Unfortunately CNN has horrible accuracy and is now being held accountable

>>114266457
Again, free press exists to ensure the government isn't controlling the flow of information. "Punishing" a media organization for saying things you don't like or disagree with is a direct attempt at that. "I will take away your access if you don't report on the things I want in the way I want." If it's difficult for you to see how that is authoritarian, I don't know what to say.

>>114266298
This is about ethics. This isn't about what would be argued in court so that's irrelevant.

>>114260308
During this election the MSM has shown that they are unabashedly anti-trump and anti his administration.

Why would the white house invite people they know are going to twist and distort whatever it is that they are going to announce?

Invitation to the white house doesn't stop them from getting the press briefings, those are all publicly released. It's more of a sign of who is currently in the administration's favour.

If those news organisations that weren't invited decide to actually act like news companies rather than liberal propaganda machines, then it's likely that they'll be invited back.

Being invited to white house press briefings is not a right that exists for all news corporations once they become big; it's a privilege and can be revoked at the president's whim.

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>>114260308
Agreed, but he is also allowed to do it. Obama did the same in the past.

>>114260690
>press
meme news organisations aren't press

>>114267340
So your answer is to just direct me to problem b? No, fuck you, lets stick with problem a for now. Answer my fucking question.

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>>114260308
It's nowt to do with democracy as long as he isn't restricting their rights and what they can/can't print.

Trump is well within his rights to not deal with them. It's good that he did this.

>>114260690
>implying the MSM is free press

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>>114267340
You just checked off number 10 here.

>>114260308
he should shut cnn down, not just ban them

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>>114267795
Sorry, meant to post this one.

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>>114267429
>Again, free press exists to ensure the government isn't controlling the flow of information.

m8 you are fucking deluded.

The press isn't "free". It's controlled by all the same banks and corporations that are destroying your country. They're in fact the very threat to democracy.

>"Punishing" a media organization for saying things you don't like or disagree with is a direct attempt at that.
The Press constantly punishes anyone they disagree with, gets them fired, gets their life ruined, character assassinates anyone who goes agains their agenda. They're the real threat to free speech and democracy in the country through their control of the flow of information.

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>>114263882
>Cuomo stating outright that it was illegal for the public to read the wikileaks emails.

Talk about classic fake news.
This is almost as bad as Everytime they cut the feed for anyone who starts btfo their host or designated stance.

>>114260308
I think it's pretty badass honestly.

>>114260534
FPBP. Democracy is tyranny, especially with minorities being able to vote away the rights of actually Americans. A philosopher king is paramount to a successful society.

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>>114260308
Its real title

>>114260638
Honestly I'd laugh even harder if the Daily Stormer was invited over CNN. Hell they'd probably write a more honest article about their experience.

>>114264498

>"republics are a form of liberal democracy"

why do you idiots always get everything fucking backwards?

>>114260308

Manbaby gets feelings hurt by the people with brains so he tries to stop them from shitting on him but will happen regardless

>>114261538
4chan covers pretty much any happening and has actual intellectual debates. I don't want to know how Kardashians new clothes looks.

>>114266745
R A R E
A
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>>114267341
Wrong. The architects of American democracy were big on the idea that democracy doesn't exist without access to a free press. It is obviously the case.

>>114268184

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>>114266869
Don't even like trump m8. Would be a berne bros if I was murrican.

Hope there is an investigation. It will shut up all the spastics running around claiming russia hacked the election is the reason hillary lost.

Just because you want it to be true, doesn't make it true. ffs, conspiracy forums aren't even touching the russia trump shit. it's a fucking retarded conspiracy theory

You're the deluded one if you think people who don't believe the retarded conspiracy theory pushed by democrats and the media must like trump.
>we're just not brainwashed by the media

>>114267553
My answer was designed to push you to reflect that this sort of behavior is in some ways in the eye of the beholder. I do not see CNN doing any of the shit you say they are doing. I see the as reporting earnestly for the most part, some ideological pundits aside. I eant the questions that CNN is asking to be answered. I have similar concerns. Meanwhile, I see Brietbart willfully contorting the truth to fit a narrative that will appeal to their readers. So when you start chosing favorites in who sides most with the narrative that you would like to be disseminated, you are stiffling freedom of the press by favoring one perspective over the other

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>>114268143
>Manbaby gets feelings hurt

Are you talking about the press outlets that were banned from the WH?

They do seem pretty butthurt.

>>114263309
The power of the media and the government need to be separate. It's not the presidents job to decide what news sources are tabloids and which are not. If he really pursues these sort of policies consistently he starts a feedback loop that ends in a media subservient to government instead of doing it's job as a watchdog.

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>>114260308
>people being fired by companies over twitter posts

>nobody really complains about the freedom of speech issues this presents

>companies are banned from some government event

>*autistic screeching*

huh...

>>114260308
agree in theory but in practice in this case its the opposite

>>114267429
>This is about ethics. This isn't about what would be argued in court so that's irrelevant
OK, but every president is guilty of doing this in some fashion, some even worse than trump. Also, trump isn't really punishing them in any formal way, I would argue his talk back against the media is worse than being denied the gaggle or whatever. Presidents pick and choose who gets to ask questions all the time, playing favorites isn't some sin, though I'd argue lazy/easymodo, nor is saying we'll give you every last drop of info we have no matter what, as no one including presidents is obligated to give the press anything (finding info is their job afterall), though it'd be nice an amicable. I think rather than talking about ethics it's more about relationships. To give a vidya analogy, it's the equivalent of some gamenews outlet being denied PR materials that they can just copy and past as news, and being told to go buy the game themselves if they want to review it.

Remember there are thousands upon thousand of news outlets, local one, and they've never been invited.

>>114260534
what did he say?

>>114267879
See>>114268440

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>>114268455
>(((Schulzberger)))

>>114261321
He gets it from "Dindu noff'n" news netwerk

>>114268397
Yes, you make a great point. If theres nothing there, then lets just have an expedient, independent investigstion where everyone involved is transparent...thats what innocent people do to clear their name. But thats not whats happening here.

>>114268219
Ohhh no. What are they going to do? Report negatively about him?

How will he ever recover.

>>114269020

>where everyone involved is transparent

Have you ever noticed, the more they talk about transparency, the more obfuscated everything becomes?

>>114260308
Its capitalism and the free market. Therea no rules saying trump has to talk to media outlets he dislikes, and it in no way has to do with democracy

>>114260690
>The free press is a cornerstone of democracy

You are correct on that you overtly emotional faggot but forgot that CNN isn't the corner stone of the press.

>>114269177
I have absolutely noticed how trump admin makes overtures and lip serive to transparency but is so far the least transparent since nixon admin, maybe even less so than nixon

Granting a "time out" to a so-called news organization that makes no secret of pedalling anti-democracy pro-mob-mentality propaganda hardly seems anti-democratic. CNN has been called out and warned countless times. I really don't understand why this is an issue.

>>114268138
>American education

>>114260308
it wasn't an official press briefing
they can invite whoever they want

>>114260308
disagree.

As a journalism student it's great to see the dinosaur legacy media get their shit kicked in to make way for something else. Maybe they can reevaluate their strategy and try again.

>>114268440
Most media is guilty of it. I can see breitbart doing to, and the fact that you can't see cnn doing it shows you are taking sides and have an obvious bias whether you realize it or not.

Next time you read one of their articles do this for me, analyze the structure of that article in careful detail, take notes, learn how they work.

First you will see a juicy headline.

Second there will be a couple paragraphs reaffirming the juicy headline.

Somewhere in the middle of the article you will have actual information that actually pertains to the headline, but more often than not you will see it does not fit the headlines narrative exactly as the media tried to spin it.

After that you will have paragraphs of other stories that fits their narrative but does not pertain to the headline as much anymore. It will just be more stories that you could go back and deconstruct in the same way as you just deconstructed the one you just read.

You are being manipulated and you don't even know it, snap out of it. There is no media without bias, and their bias is dangerous because it makes them spin false narratives. What makes this different from the rest of history is the leftist media has amplified the problem many times over, they are doing it on a much grander scale to the point you would think it was satire if you are awoken enough.

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>>114268875

Reminder that the Jewish owners of the mass media are enemies of the people. If you support them in any shape or form, you are not redpilled.

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>>114262805
>Plato
>communism
This is not your average level of stupid. This is advanced fucking retardation.

>>114262805
Leaf understanding of philosophy

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America is a constitutional republic you cucks

>>114260308

I agree, corporate news isn't good for democracy.

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>>114269775

>>114260308
Obama did it

>>114260308
what the blocked news organizations were doing were not good for democracy.

>>114267890
You are defending the president attempting to control information flow by restricting access to his approved media sources by saying that the media has problems of its own. That is a red herring. What the media does is irrelevant to the harm of the government curating media sources.This isn't about which harms democracy more. This is about whether or not Donald Trump banning CNN from a press event as a form of punishment is harmful unto itself.

>>114269409

Precisely, disingenuity is one of the few characteristics that transcend party lines these days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Department_of_Justice_investigations_of_reporters

For example, Obama wire tapped and threw journalists in jail.

Yet we're supposed to believe things like this never happened and what Trump is doing is some unheard of attack on the press.

>>114269685
>Next time you read one of their articles do this for me, analyze the structure of that article in careful detail, take notes, learn how they work.
A lot of CNN articles blatantly shit talk people like Trump with absolutely no connection to their articles. They don't even try to hide it.

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>>114260308
Defending oneself against harmful alien influence is alright

>>114269781
It's BOTH a republic AND a democracy, you imbecile.

>>114269685
Dude, i read my news from as many sources as possible. I dont take cnn at face value 100%, but it is incredibly clear to me that they report much more earnestly than Brietbart or even fox news. I know cnn is not perfect, but they are not even close to the same level of bias as Brietbart. You are the one thats deluded my friend.

>>114269781
Oh god who's the chick on the left

>>114260308
It's definitely not a good precedent, but at this point Spicer's just spouting propaganda so maybe there's not much value to being there anyway.
I'll be more concerned if he does this during actual press conferences.

>>114260308
they laid their bed..

>>114269903
Yes. He did. But CNN would not cover it, because they were his golden children.

>>114270067
They do try to hide it, but they aren't trying to hide it from people like us.

They bank on the fact that most people will either only read the headline, skim the first couple of paragraphs which work to reaffirm the headlines narrative, or people will skip to the end which also more often than not works in a similar matter to the first few paragraphs but loaded with extra stories as well.

The substance will often be somewhere in the middle, and it disqualifies the headline more often than not. But most people don't read this bit, and if they do there is a good chance the publishers narrative has already stuck to the person reading it.

They know how people read their articles, it's why they construct them the way they do.

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>>114270070
WOKEN AS FUCK

>>114260308
Guys can anyone tell me, is there anyone who supports globalist/liberal-elite politics that isnt suffering from a mental illness revolving around sexuality such as being gay or trans or bisexual or a paedo or some other similar degenerate condition?

>>114270497
I seem to recall the liberal news media backing Fox News for that Obama shit and publicly condemning obamas attempts to ostracize fox

>>114268012
>A philosopher king is paramount to a successful society.
While this may be true, how would we ensure a successful line of philosopher kings?

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>>114270711
PHILOSPHER KING IS PEDOKING

>>114270200
CNN is not centrist anymore, that day you decided CNN was pretty centrist and balanced was probably a decade ago. They are not traveling pretty far left. And stop bringing up Breitbart, I don't read them, you are just trying to deflect.

>>114261974
Yes. Same as how CNN spun higher vetting on a handful of countries as a "Muslim ban."

>>114270593
>most people will either only read the headline
This is a huge issue. People here getting caught up in bait threads prove how even the "enlightened" fall for the same bullshit because they're too lazy to investigate.

>>114270067

People don't have the attention span to actually read through entire articles.

They count on this.

I'm not joking.

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>>114261494
>impeached

>>114270200
>i read my news from as many sources as possible
Are all sources equal?
>it is incredibly clear to me that they report much more earnestly than Brietbart or even fox news
I disagree. I've watched them skew, censor, and outright lie too many times. If you haven't seen that then either you aren't paying attention or you don't see it as manipulation.

>>114271021
Yep. It's all about writing an inciteful headline, the first paragraph or so with equal spin, then buring SOME facts at the end of the article to cover ass.

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>>114269918
>What the media does is irrelevant to the harm of the government curating media sources.

It is absolutely relevant.

The easiest way to fix the media is to prevent the particularly bad and biased outlets like CNN, NYT and Buzzfeed to get special access. This means the better outlets that aren't purely on a crusade to destroy the administration and the nation state will get more hits and more attention, which will actually ameliorate the flow of information.

>>114271289

It's why the image is often far more important than the actual article.

Sad really, but it's also the reason we've been able to subvert so effectively.

>>114271464
I blame cell phones. :P

>>114261757
>Anonymous

wow, these "refugees" have nicer cell phones than I do.

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>>114260308
Didn't the press appoint itself as an integral part of society? The Fifth Estate or some shit. Quite a bit of self importance these story for hire hacks have.

>>114271575

Totally.

>>114260638
OMG SO ORIGINAL XDdd

>>114271738
>ameripoors

>>114271767
>TEDx
It's like riding the intellectual short bus

>>114271401
I agree. It IS relevant. When we have CNN running puff pieces about the sister of a degenerate who got shot by a cop calling "for peace" while on other outlets I see her full speech, where she calls for peace where they live, and to "go out into the suburbs and burn that shit down, because they need their weaves" I know CNN is a complete piece of shit.

>>114270711
I don't know. A poisoned cup when he's not a strong leader. It's easier to replace an inept ruler than an inept democracy.