/esp/ Spain General - Princess Edition

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they treat us like shit in /pol/, they suck the eternal anglo dick, and they're not even white

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Spaniards of /pol/, why so many of you are Podemos cucks? Is pic related the face of your average Spanish /pol/lack?

>>112478636
>Spaniards of /pol/, why so many of you are Podemos
you are joking right?

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>tfw you´ll never sail to Tierra firme with Pizarro and conquer the Inca Empire with your spanish bros

>>112478836
dat fucking indian traitor kek, all downfalls start that way.

I happened to live in spain as a child and i might even land a job in the community of madrid for the summer. Bump due to interest.

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>>112478836
next time, anglo-style genocide

>>112479073
I encourage you to bleach some of our girls

>>112478636
That is something I never understand either.

When I talk to my spanish friends they are all against open-borders and general communism/socialism yet they suck Pablodick all day long.

Is this due to a lack of Alternative voting parties?

>>112479073
Kiitos, minun suomalainen ystävä.

>>112479075
then your kings were german and french you fucking retard

>>112478836
Followed by destroying your genetic lineage by breeding with the natives and dooming South and Central America to chaos due to its mongrel population.

Imagine how powerful the west would have been if you'd done what the Brits did in the north.

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>>112479361
Yes. We want to crush our political party system with no survivors, and Podemos will help us to achieve said goal.

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>>112478636
That's just the same guys that get paid 20 cents of a Euro per post. We call'em "veintecentimistas" or twentycenters

>>112479133
>What is a pure "Catalan"?
someone that has 4 grandparents from Cat
I am not for example, one granny was from almeria

>>112479646
where does podemos get the money?
soros?

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>>112478636
Don't they "know"? I was expecting more red-pilled-ness from channers.

>>112478053
That's a big umbrella for a little girl

>>112479751
Venezuela, actually

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>>112479603
I personally know two far-right guys who voted Podemos in the last elections for exactly that same reason.

>>112479661
>4 grandparents from Cat
not enough, need 8 great grandparents

>>112480007
Taht is really retarded. Unless you want a total MadMax there is no point to vote for potemos

>>112479603
I have heard from such people stuff like the Venezuela Crisis is due to Big Businesses being mean and not due to the government as well as that under Soviet Union people lived better than nowadays Russia.

Mind = Blown

>>112480007
>I personally know two far-right guys who voted Podemos in the last elections for exactly that same reason.

pure autismo

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>>112479848
Isn´t that the Open Society Foundation logo? Holy shit, catalacucks are fucking doomed.

Instalaros ExtraFlags para 4chan perras

>>112478053
Why does Spain hate animals? They have the brutal bull fights, and let other animals suffer abuse with no consequences tot he perp. What gives? I thought you were a Catholic country?

This generals won´t last, we are way too few to make a stand in the chan community.

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Let's talk about her

>>112480732
What are you, a fucking vegan?

>>112480007
are you that jap lover from vandal?

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>>112480751
No, let´s talk about mummy.

>>112480813
No, not vegan. Love my dairy and honey and fish! Just hate seeing animals suffer and being abused. You are not China. What gives?

>>112480732
>let other animals suffer abuse with no consequences tot he perp
What?

What a pleb you must be to not enjoy a good session of rejoneo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-TvUnmUP1k

>>112480732

the bulls live better than zoo koalas

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>>112480916
What about all the engineers and neuro surgeons we now enjoy in the city? Wheat does cummy mummy think about that?

>>112480732
You prep the bull, we kill it.

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Un español pensó que yo era un Áfricano moreno cuando vio mis fotos. No sé por qué.
Soy blanco, ¿¿no?? lel

Am I allowed to move to Spain?

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Murican studying in Asturias here.

My society professor gave me the impression that Franco couldn't win the culture war and that as soon as he died, the country more or less went to shit. That, and the successor (an admiral, if I recall) that would have continued his work was assassinated and after that Spain had no real guidance

Is this true?


Moving to recent history, Madrid seems like a cancer that's going to inexorably spread. It's easy to spot the spics, let alone nigs here in Asturias ruining the gene pool.

>Spain 2017
> giving a crap about national politics given our current political landscape

Dunno guys, let me know when there's a single representative party against muzzies and whatnot.

Until then..

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>>112480732
>They have the brutal bull fights, and let other animals suffer abuse with no consequences tot he perp

bullfighting is our 19th century football, barely anyone watches it now

and no we don't torture other animals, we are up to code with european standards regarding our livestock and we treat them better than you fat fucks

>>112480927
> Just hate seeing animals suffer and being abused.

don't watch then

>>112481265
>Soy blanco, ¿¿no?? lel

you are the reason we get called rapebabies sometimes, I'm sorry but you don't look white

>>112480751
I have seen her more than once on the street
I waved to her and said good night instead of sperging out

>>112480916
BUTIFARRED

>>112481237
holy fuck when was that?

>>112480732
Partido Animalista got 286,702 votes in 2016.
Just one shitty irrelevant animal rights party.

There are tons of sympathetic Spaniards, but also many who value the act as a tradition.

>>112481265
Kek. You look like the average andalusian.
>>112481237
She is getting misguided by Albert Rivera.

>>112481265
Arab/10
And I live in fucking Andalusia.

>>112481507
>holy fuck when was that?
Well, believe it or not they now have the "sindicato de manteros", yes, I know, I know.. And that was one of the first meetings I think.

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How do we make Anime real?

>>112481265
you could pass as a southerner

>>112480739
What do you suggest? Making it a /hisp/ general?

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>>112481689
That guy for sure won´t. Look at his weak chin. Low T beta faggot. KEK

>>112480041
This, the 8 last names.

>>112479446
Aragonés, Occitano y Navarro desde 1600, el máximo que he logrado por registros eclesíasticos. De andaluz nada.

Then, about andalusians in catalonia. It's blatant that catalan money funded the factories. But when andalusians arrived, they just fit in the same factories?

Man, those people worked 14-12 hours/day. The funds for the factories came from Cuba and nigger boats.

And the production was off-chart thanks to 1M immigrants.

>>112481676
will they reproduce?
my aunt works as a teacher and already says nigs are the worst

>>112481689
they should rename the party, they have become too much of a joke

>>112478053
>Princesa Leonor
she's such a cutie

>>112479906
4 you.

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>>112479075
You were /our cucks/.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Barcelona

>>112481560
funny thing in catalonia bullfights got baned but this party still has voters

>>112481836
a /spanishempire/ general or something like that.

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>>112481301
it hurts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=736PxGqvmEQ

como en la Biblia

>>112481892
you know what's off the charts?
the niggers and moors that socialist voted by andalucians sended here

>>112481936
KEEP YOUR COPPER STEALING HANDS AWAY FROM OUR ROYAL LOLI

>>112481301
>Is this true?
Mainly yes. Franco had absolute powers after the war and he didn't reunite the country, something that Hitler never forgave him.

instead of reuniting the country Franco let the little guys get revenge. This went on for a good 10 years. More people died during this period than during the war. If you die during the war, oh well, it's war, at least you have a chance, but if you die once you have surrendered... welll... the hate stays in the family for ever. That's the main problem we are facing now. Many people are still resented because they got a father or a grandfather executed for no reason at all. Because to be honest that's what happened, post war they executed lots of people for nothing. That's why we don't have a united country and that's why they are eating us alive.

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H-how strong is the seed?

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>>112481836
>What do you suggest? Making it a /hisp/ general?
>>112482117

fuck that lads, beaners will just shit up the thread with their inferior IQs, it's not worth the bumps
and besides we have nothing in common with them, with a comfy /esp/ we can discuss our problems with less spics involved

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>>112478636
RESPECT THE MINGA Echeminga

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>>112482447
you look like a stereotypical mestizo who is light enough to play a latino role in american tv

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>>112481892
We had many people to leave to Argentina and other shitholes in the XIX century, we didn't need those "workers" here, there was lack of jobs here and in all Spain.

>>112481301
yes it's true, Franco should've resing on the 40's and he would've be seen more of a hero or a necessary evil
He didn't even try to win the culture war, they didn't even teach about the bad things commies did in schools, he just baned what he didn't like and once he died things got loose

>>112482447
It's like you have the soulless remnants of a Spaniard.
But you look Indo as fuck.

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h-hola anon... eres de espana t-tambien?

>>112482447
quite strong

>>112482747
HISPANICS FOR TRUMPS

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>>112480751 la cerda tendra cerditos

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>>112480041
I'm going to check my ancestry someday. All my great-grandparents are from Catalonia and since they were peasants from the central area I will probably find church documents easily.

why eurospics are so edgy like >>112482452 why you niggers hate us?

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>>112482452
mmm I guess you are right, BUT, I´d love to use some spanish empire theme for our general.
>>112482447
You look kinda mexican man.
>>112482747
Y-yes. No. Maybe.

>>112482747
>tfw Karla is probably lurking this thread while stroking her feminine penis

>>112482195
Look the chart above your message from 59 to 75. The biggest internal inmigration? in the 60's
In_your_face.gif

They were fucking starving! And in their own country, Spain, needed workers in the north. If you believe the socialist party (in 1960) sended here andalusians, the education in Catalunya sucks so hard! Grab a book kid! Done with you, not enough level.

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>>112482985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8ohWJMyXc
KEK

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>>112482747
muh dik

What do we do about Andalusia, bois? Are gypsies and immigrants the ones at fault for this being a socialist shithole?

>>112483049
no you didn't understand
the sons of those that came vote socialist and open the borders for more foreigners

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>>112483119
I don´t know why this guy is so disrespected. Him, along Perez-Reverte and Herman Tersch, are journalism beasts, going to warzones and shit.

>>112483119
la secta

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>>112483228
you need to make a thorough extermination of gypsies, moors and the weak blooded socialist leeches

andalusia is fucked right now and I don't see it ever recovering at this rate

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PAY YOUR DEBT PUTOS

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Reminder that it was this fucker who opened the border by changing an immigration and citizenship law.

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>>112478053
Spain fiki fiki mucho una sebesa pofabol

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>>112483119
>está usted muy gordita
TOP KEK FEMINIST WHORE REKT

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>>112478053
>tfw you will never sail with your Catalan brothers to remove kebab around Europe
>you will never revolt against the byzantines
>you will never raid towns and monasteries
>you will never scare the shit off balkanshits for generations
>you will never live the glory of the Catalan people and the Crown of Aragon

>tfw we are disappearing
>even "separatists" keep importing moors and diluting our ethnicity

It is a sad time, we are living.

>>112483228
>>112483459
The gypsies make good music though ;_;

>>112482598
Andalusians came in the 50-60's

Before that, since 1907 with a new law (the one from 1850+- was restrictive), and gov funds in 1920, then Catalans leave to Cuba, Argentina, Venezuela... Not in 1960! You morons, are mixing things with 50 years of difference!

>>112483607
And some people here praise him...

>>112483322
The cow was right in this one though, the kike bankers have used the people a lot.

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>>112483607
Neocon faggot, taking down our military service was the biggest mistake of his 8 years as prime minister.

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>>112483732
>you will never have Furia Gitana

>>112478053
Dafuq doesn't your country have a boy in line for the throne?

fucking cucks

>>112483738
>gypsies
>good music
What? They've probably stolen it in any case.

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>>112483732
The attack against the Byzantine Empire is nothing to be proud of though.

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Should we talk about this shit or should we all get a proxy first to avoid landing in jail just for questioning Big Sister?

friendly reminder there's literally nothing wrong with podemos

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>>112482594
>>112482700
kek I liked that can you elaborate?
>>112482848
>>112483016

Thanks for the verdict.

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>>112484016
>Dafuq doesn't your country have a boy in line for the throne?
allowing women to rule again was one of many, many mistakes made in the 19th century

>>112484148

Well, they kind of betrayed Roger de Flor and the Catalan Company. We did not sperg out without reasons, I think.

>>112484201
how's the bathroom scrubbing going?

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>>112483732
Roger de Flor death and the catalonian vengeance is the best way to define an angry spaniard.

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>>112484201
Carmena did nothing wrong

>>112484397
kek

>>112484395
>implying

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Someone give me a quick rundown on this guy

>>112484148
our boy was about to marry the byzantine qt adter he won some battle and they kill him
fuck them
byzantins were always traitors

>>112484016
God saw fit to give us a future queen.
>mfw when we'll get to march under Queen Leonor's banner to reconquer Europe from the Muslim hordes

hi

>>112484542
30000 REFUGEES
what else do you need?
His party was born because 4 famlies didn't want their kids to learn catalan
he's a traitor to catalonia and to spain and now is a fucking EU tool

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pray for Spain

>>112484385
>>112484549
True, I didn't remember the entire history. The mistake was the fourth crusade and it was Venice's fault.

>>112483296
Ok, my bad. Yes PSC are traitors. But Pujol since 1980 to 2003 President de la Generalitat, making Aznar President in 96.

They picked muslim inmigrants from morocco to teach them Catalan instead of southamericans (someone who alredy speaks spanish, will not learn catalan). That's on them! Salt 35% muslims.

No soc català, pero el parlo per respecte i amor a aquesta terra, la teva actitud de puresa racial catalana... M'explota el cervell, el problema no el tenim amb el Lopez o Garcia, em sembla a mí!

>>112484549
>byzantins were always traitors

around greeks, never relax

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>>112484797

>>112481301

Are you studying in Milan campus? that's the most cucked one

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Which princess is qter? Spain or Sweden?

>>112484797
Everybody in charge of the Generalitat since Companys can be considered a traitor. Macià was based, if he saw the shit monument he has in the middle of Barcelona...

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>>112482434
>>112482686
I don't know what the answer is, but there must be something. You guys pray in churches several times older than America every Sunday, for god's sake. The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a handful of issues that everyone would be willing to pursue at the expense of local ones like trump (of course he isn't the answer, but a good first step) found. Maybe a Spanish wing of identity europa? There are plenty of fashy types here tagging Celtic crosses and 14/88 to be molded into brownshirts and security detachments.
>>112483607
I see that the Spanish public was betrayed like in the US. We say here that Americans went to sleep in terms of existential issues while cons (the racialist ones were progressively isolated) and dems argued over nothing to cover what they were doing to us. My grandmother blames Philly's current state on blacks (she loved out in the 80s), yet she's a self-proclaimed "Hillary girl".

>>112485283
spen

>>112485104
>kill the bull

haha

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>>112481560

In Portugal, those crazy Lisbon hipsters elected one of "the animal lovers" as a MP. People–Animals–Nature kek

>>112484542
>Rajoy bows to Albert Rivera
>In contact with aliens
>Possesses psychic abilities
>Controls Spain with an iron but fair fist
>Owns castles & banks globally
>Direct descendant of the Habsburgs
>Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Sensatia de Arriba will be the first city)
>Owns 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be xarnego babies
>said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
>You likely have Ciudadanos inside you right now
>Still hasn't learned Catalan

>>112484780
even at the first crusade, the byzantines didn't send enough troops to help the crusaders who in turn didn't give back the territories to byzantium
the also masacred the latins more than once
the relation was always problematic
>>112484797
si y no
tot es una questió de percentatges, ja he dit que la meva avia es d'almeria y cap problema
pero has d'entendre que per culpa d'una onada migratoria masa forta,

>>112485104

Great pic. Saved.

>>112485283
The one on the right has the makings of a FINE face, desu.

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>>112484542
>>Arab before Catalan

Never trust a cuckservative

>>112485283
spain no doubt
I bet that swedish slut is already burning her share of muslim dick

>>112485571
Saved, thanks anon.

>>112485586
>la meva avia es d'almeria
justament als xarnegos amb familia de andalusia us hauria de fer vergonya participar de la bogeria del nacionalisme catala

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>>112485714
i think Estelle does too. but okay, stay mad i guess.

My mum has a flat in barcelona (proper like Vila olimpica) how screwed is the future value?

>>112484797
Els López i García són els Mohammeds i Oswaldos de fa 50 anys. Tots són l'instrument utilitzat pel govern espanyol per descatalanitzar Catalunya, no t'enganyis.

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>>112485720
No fucking way.

>>112485586
B-but they were romanz...

>>112486087
>Vila olimpica
shit tier

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>>112486087
>Vila olimpica
this?

>>112485427
people are contrarian, because we had a right wing dictatorship, most then grow up hating the church, the oposite of Poland in wich a commie goberment has lead to an increase in church goers

the problem with spain is that the two last right wing movements were too jacobin, to centralists, and now people from the basque county or catalonia are leftist because of that.
We can have a true spanish nationalism but there are open wounds.
Catalonia is Spain but then catalan is not spanish, as the spanish goberment doesn't ask to the EU to made it an european language even though it has more speakers than danish for example.
There's too many things like that, they can be worked out but the more right winger some party is, the more anticatalan is and this makes it impossible.

>>112486034
perque? els altres tres eren catalanistes de sempre

>>112486034
>Implying if you are a Nationalist by definition (you are in /pol/) and Catalan the logic thing is not to be a Catalan Nationalist.

>>112486180

It's not really vila olimpica its pujades meridiana corner. It's a 3 bed atico in a 70s building that had a lot of work done and new lifts a few years ago for what it's worth

>>112486411
that's not even spain m8
>>112486180
it's not
>>112486087
it's not screwed it's good, near the beach

>>112486087
>English
>Having a flat in Barcelona
The hog-mayor of Barcelona is going to collectivise the property soon so you should sell it asap.

>>112485571
do you mind if I keep it?

>>112486096
D'acord, innegable que un procés massiu d'inmigració dilueix la identitat del país acollidor. Ara bé, Lopez i Garcia avui día son l'arma forta del "prucés". No t'enredo més que m'interessa el tema históric de la companyía catalana i vull seguir el debat, però abans vull la teva opinió: "prucés" si o no?

>>112486791

My brother and a cat lives there if that will helps fend off the bolshies

>>112480751

Fuck this bitch everyone hates her she's a fucking commie and a feminist. She's gonna ruin Barcelona.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKALNF1fU1I

>>112484797
I know some Castilian good immigrants, but only when they grow surrounded by Catalan people, in the cities they are nigger trier.

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>>112486180
The president will expropiate this flat next week

>>112486617
>that's not even spain m8
brazil

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>>112486438
>perque? els altres tres eren catalanistes de sempre

els catalans "purs", i n'hi han de pocs, pero de tant en tant em trobo un, tenen el maxim menyspreu per els andalusos, i els consideren sense ironia una raça inferior

i els xarnegos sense familia andalusa foten el mateix, pots estar hi orgullos de catalunya com ho estic jo (50% catala, 50% del nord d'espanya) sense renunciar a la teva sang espanyola i la historia de germanor entre espanya i catalunya

>>112486922
Oh yes. As long as your brother is a transexual black left-handed communist muslim.

>>112480916

Too bad Ciutadans is stupid asf and hates catalans; they have some good ideas but damn they are stupid, they want to eliminate the catalan language and that's a big no-no.

>>112486074
10/10 would cuddle
>>112485720
fill de puta, el seu partit va neixer de no voler apendre català a l'escola i ara ho posa en àrab quins cullons
>>112486096
correcte
>>112486796
tothom es pot integrar si el percentatge es petit i no ho va ser

jo si que vull el procés pero no el veig posible, simplement el veig necesari per aconseguir algo menys, es un regateig
de fet la UE té com a objectiu unir tots els paisos així que d'independentisme real cap

>>112487075
>da pic
what do you want manolo

>>112487188

I'm sure h'd rather identify as one than pay the jizya

>>112484542
Traitor and needs to be hanged.

>>112486922
He needs to arm the cat and use it to scare them off.

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>>112478053

who dat? she's a qt :3

Is everyone here Spanish or are there Basque and Catalonians too?

>>112487009
that's rio
>>112487143
i quin problema hi ha? els catalans sempre hem estat "espanyols" y sempre ho serem, pero no som castellans i no tenim perque ser part d'una monarquia borbónica fins a la fi dels temps.

>>112487143
This is the problem of mixing people from different countries. They feel ties to both and are loyal to none. I can't blame you though, Catalonia is a lost cause: we are a minority and the majority of the people here is commie.

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>>112483732

We will make Catalunya Great Again!

Any /pol/ from Mallorca ? We need to pepe this island.

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>>112487508
Our future queen.

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>>112487770
>Catalonia next EU state
KYS

>>112487239
I thought she was getting promoted to the national congress.

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>>112487770
MCGA

>>112487560
lots of catalans here

Who btw are still spanish
But they are not castillian
Know that spain comes from hispania, the name romans gave to the entire peninsula
The origin of Catalonia is the Marca Hispanica, an amalgamation of non muslims towns right in the border who then became the catalan counties, born to defend the Frankish Empire from the muslims.

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>>112487833
Comissar Iglesias will depose the monarchy though.

do you guys have a pastebin for a tl;dr explanation of the spanish political parties and who /ourguys/ are

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>>112487584
>i quin problema hi ha? els catalans sempre hem estat "espanyols" y sempre ho serem, pero no som castellans i no tenim perque ser part d'una monarquia borbónica fins a la fi dels temps.

tens rao, pero quina es la alternativa? el meme de la monarquia no t'el creuras suposo, no fan res mes que tasques de representacio avui dia, i els politics catalans son tan dolents i corruptes com els castellans, esser republica independent no cambiaria res d'aixo, i et recordo que som la base mes gran de votants a podemos

>>112478053

Greetings from Asturias.

We are going to be a Podemos (Podemos + IU) stronghold in the near future. Other autonomous communities are luckier.

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>>112485259
Y-yes, I am.

>>112486074
They're both beautiful, lol.

>>112486438
Shucks. Maybe some overarching issue will turn up, I don't know. It seems like you've become your own controlled opposition (as I've said of the us).

Is there much of an anti-eu sentiment?

>>112488024
That would be Hispanian or Iberian rather than Spanish. Nowadays Spanish = Castilian and you know it.

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>>112488044
>/ourguys/
Spain is different you loco.... there are not /ourguys/ maybe in 50 years... be patient :)

>>112488024
There are too many Spanish ethnicities and I wasn't going to try listing them all.

>>112478053
>>112487833
>tfw no qt3.14 princess of Germany

Kill me.

>>112488106

None of the thousands of students currently studying there are redpilled, i guess you realized that

>>112488044
tl;dr:
>Winning party is the Popular Party (PP) which are cuckservative faggots, Jew puppets
>The Socialist Party (PSOE) are a bunch of fags and Jew puppets
>Ciudadanos, another party, are cucks and PP-lite, for level of cuckness see >>112485720
>Podemos are SJW communists
There is no /ourguy/ in Spain.
oh, and lots of corruption.

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Do you (or anyone else) know of a TV-series about the old kingdoms of Spain? (Asturia, Castille, Aragon, Catalunya, possibly the reconquest of the south) In English or even better in Spanish (I'm learning while living here)

I know how much you guys like to shit on everything here, but imo Spain is awesome

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>>112487883
>>112487770
>>112483732
MAKE ROSELLÓ SPANISH AGAIN
MAKE SARDINIA SPANISH AGAIN
MAKE SICILY SPANISH AGAIN
MAKE NAPLES SPANISH AGAIN
MAKE PROVENCE SPANISH AGAIN

>>112487584>>112487247
I share with you (previous post), about the extreme centralism of Spain in the past and present (not hardcore as french style, jacobin, their students open the same book on the same page in París and Martinica).

Castilian thought: i'm spanish, then all spanish should be castilian. And that's not ok, is our diversity what makes us strong. That made us an Empire, something, in my humble opinion, we will never see again.

>>112488411
It's the same ethnicity with different cultures in fact.

>>112488609
tve is always making shows about medieval spain but I think most of them are shit

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>>112488609
>we will never get an Iberian version of Vikings, watching our ancestors sailing, raiding and conquering the entire world.

>>112488049
>els politics catalans son tan dolents i corruptes com els castellans, esser republica independent no cambiaria res d'aixo, i et recordo que som la base mes gran de votants a podemos

Comparteixo aquesta preocupació.
Sospito que si aconseguíssim l'estat independent, seguiríem essent Cuckalonia, i en "turbo-mode".

Cal un canvi de mentalitat molt gran.


>>112486792
It's all yours. I think it can be improved, tho.

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>>112488611
MAKE ROSELLÓ CATALAN AGAIN
MAKE SARDINIA CATALAN AGAIN
MAKE SICILY CATALAN AGAIN
MAKE NAPLES CATALAN AGAIN
MAKE PROVENCE CATALAN AGAIN
Fixed

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>>112488810
TVE is generally low quality

>>112488049
Yes they only work as ambasadors, but are they our ambasadors?
Are we really spain?
Cause they haven't said anything in favour of catalan language in Europe or criticising the partision PP wants to made of our language in the balearic islands yet he speaks about the jews that were expelled and our president gave them nationalities.
I am not a republican nor a monarchist, that depends on the one ruling, I've had this discussion with some ERC guys making them understand that france is more anticatalan while being a republic.
And I already said that independetism won't happen, we are a minority
My main concern now is increasing the fertility rate and yet we open the border to more muslims

>>112488024
Besides what this guy says >>112488285

"Marca Hispanica" is not really an historical name. As far as I know, it was first used by chartists and historians, but it never was the name of the actual political entities on the area.

I think it is important to understand this, because it is an abused terminology.

>>112483622
Checked and keked.
These threads are bullshit.
Good night everyone.

>>112488422
You have Merkel :3

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>tfw eres un castellano no jacobino y a nadie le gustas

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>>112478053
What about Delfin Asturiano?

>>112488285
wich shouldn't make sense as modern spain was born from the marriage with the aragon crown

>>112488704
going to pol brings me some hope though

>>112489450
but still spain doesn't mean castille
it comes from the roman name of the peninsula

>>112489266
For example the House of Habsburg or the House of Barcelona were really tolerant with other cultures within their realms while the french faggots weren't. It was with the revolution they went after their cultural minorities in the harshest way. But having a monarchy without a Barcelona or an Urgell isn't worth it.

>>112484397
>that pic
kek, fuckin saved

>>112488955
We had this, but it looks a little bit "serie B", and it is about a legend, not history:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM6VTackg2M

>>112487508
leave our royal lolis alone

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>>112488955
Vikings tragically cucked out a couple seasons in, though it's still semi-watchable. The accuracy of the props, fighting, costumes, and some if the plot isn't very good but the hairstyles (no homo) and the raw idea of the show are amazing enough to keep me going and focusing on the best bits.

>>112489735
yes but again the problem with those monarchies was a low fertiliy, just like now lol

>>112479555
It wasn't the Brits, They were stopping Colonists from settling further west. It was the Americans who had a sense of white nationalism and conquered the continent for themselves.

>>112489699
Modern Spain was born in the 1812 constitution. And Aragon and Castile broke their union after the death of Isabel but since Ferran didn't have another son the two crowns united under Charles II in 1516 at the death of Ferran. But Aragon was almost independent until 1714 (didn't pay taxes and didn't participate in Spanish wars).

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>>112489149
>TVE is generally low quality
this is what happens with (((public))) tv

>Yes they only work as ambasadors, but are they our ambasadors?
de veritat que els reis no em preocupen, no es ni molt menys exclusivament catala el sentiment antimonarquista. El rei defensa la unitat nacional com es logic i no vol emprenyar ni a uns ni als altres, precisament pel que dic del antimonarquisme tan extes d'avui dia, no cal donar-li mes raons a la gent per odiar als reis

i en aixo ultim que has dit estem d'acord, pero no es presenta cap solucio a l'horitzo

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>>112478053 Should Delfin Asturiano be the actual King of Spain?

>>112489001
>>112489450

Español=/=Castellano

Acabemos con este malentendido de una vez por todas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NrDZm1NAMg

Princess reminds me of this for some reason..

>>112490072
The modern problem with them is they are expensive to mantain. With modern science there wouldn't be a low fertility problem.

>>112488044
Regarding /ourguys/, noone worth mentioning really.

The only worth mentioning party we had in the last 10 years is Plataforma x Catalunya. They got 75.000 votes in the 2010 regional Catalan elections, but after the expulsion of the president, the different splits into smaller parties and the media blockade which started in 2010, they're basically a dead party now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaIkTiAYqHQ

>>112490187

Estoy de acuerdo, no debería significar lo mismo. Pero no me podrás negar que se ha impuesto esa idea, desde que Aragón se cuckeó en los tiempos de los Reyes Catolicos.

>>112490187
It wasn't the same in the past, now it is.

>>112488609
Memoria de España :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANnNBTMAi-Q

>>112490278
you Hans, let Marisol Core away and listen to that... Real Spanish King
https://soundcloud.com/user-209658

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>>112490120
lol wtf?

>>112479848
Is this Catalan or Portugese?

>>112478053
>What do we do to save Spain?

Put second Franco in power

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ANGLO SUPERIORITY WILL GENOCIDE YOU

>>112490342
>media blockade
fucking this
that's the best weapon they have
with podemos it was a non stop since they appeared

>>112490527
>let Marisol Core

is this a /mu/ meme I am not aware of?

>>112490568
serbian

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>>112490597
t. Edward Vernon

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>>112490342
>/ourguys/,

who votes for Delfin Asturiano to be /ourguy/ ?

>>112490527
Oh Jesus Christ that music

>>112490342
I think we have some literally Hitler trier parties but they are memes.

>>112490863
No, but should be.

>>112478636
Create a legitimate right-wing alternative and then people won't only have fucking Podemos as their alternative to the Cucks in the centre

>>112491021
Agreed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cqkeicDXLI

hey dad can you come back please, i miss you and i wont make another war i promise

>>112491235
It would end up as just another meme party, it's really hard to get a party mainstream. The only thing that could save us is a coup d'etat.

>>112490099
Based Anon there. Fernando was kicked by castilians.

Carlos III de España, IV del Sacro Imperio Romano Germánico (último Austria, no el Borbon, pretendiente al trono en guerra con Felipe V) >Rey de las Españas y de las Indias, de las dos Sicilias y Jerusalén, etc.

Borbones ruined everything.

>>112490422
¿No podemos poner las cosas en su sitio? Es lo que se debe de hacer.

>>112490395
Yo diría que es posterior. Yo cuando oigo a alguien referirse al castellano como español o spanish me enerva la sangre.

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>>112490597
t. The one being genocided by south asians.

>>112485283
Spain easily

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>>112491341 Delfin Asturiano is /ourguy/

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>>112490120
Top kek man.

>>112490278

Marisol is a fucking communist, don't post her here never again.

>>112491472
This.

>>112491531
Since 1812 being Spanish is being Castilian. Fuck off, you've harmed my country enough already with all your open borders.

>>112491341
>>112491021
anyone know the name of that dude that speaks very bad like in a retarded way and put videos in youtube, I remember saying things like "A multiplo"

>>112491235
It won't work. Our right wing voters will always vote PP (cuckservatives) fearing the commies

>>112487833
Post fw she gets older and marries abdul hassan ii of arabia, i mean it will be the current year

>>112486796
Et diria que sí però el resultat no seria ni de bon tros el que m'agradaria que fos.
Per mi és més important viure en una Catalunya catalana que no en una Catalunya independent amb la demografia actual.

>>112492049
I fear she is going to end up being a huge SJW desu.
Hopefully /pol/ is once again right and Gen Z is super redpilled and she turns out to be /ourgirl/
>tfw you will never spill your blood in the name of Leonor, Empress of the Roman Empire and Queen of the Americas

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>>112491856
>>112491856
Dont know who youre speaking about... but please share when u find it... from ur explanation i have really high expectancies

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>>112492049
Our princess would never do such a thing

>>112491792
Podria decir lo mismo.

No quiero que te lleves una desilusión... pero si la República (¿No debería ser principado?) Catalana fuese independiente tendríais fronteras abiertas. Si no hubiese xarnegos en Cataluña seguirías teniendo fronteras abiertas.

>>112492289

>Gen Z redpilled

Not in Spain, just visit the average spaniard high school/uni

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>>112491341
I think he is the only who can MSGA

>>112487801
Get the hell out of there. You're living in a rightful german clay

>>112492297
>>112491856
got him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqhM_bZ03Hg

>>112492652
Supreme Habsburg genetics. How can anglos even compete?

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>>112490597
Anglos are really disgusting

>>112492753


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It0hO_5JPwU

>>112492289
Next crisis, after 12-16 years of PP, high taxes, cucked to Germany, PSOE disappeared, Podemos growing, more welcome rapefugees...

A few tv shows about reconquista, crusades, Great Spanish Empire and maybe...

>>112492049
If that is the case i hope she gets Lady Di'ed.

>>112492794
Privileged genetics. He is our savior. Delfin Asturiano is definetly redpilled as fuck

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>>112492453
We don't have any hopes, do we?

>>112492404
If I'm realistic Catalonia is dead whatever we do. The only small chance we have is independence and the immigration could redpill people. If we stay podemos will eventually win (and you know it) and the result would be the same (more immigrants for us). I don't hate you, I know some of you who are based, but our common history in the last 300 years has been of absolute abuse and constant atempts to divide and destroy us. If I go to Valencia my own people hates me thanks to your propaganda. And here most of the podemos voters are Andalusian immigrants btw, although all the parties are cucked right now.

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>>112492899

>>112493106
Together we stand, separated we fall. LEVANTAMIENTO AHORA.

>>112492794

This is what /ourguy/ makes with the anglos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suQnVJXWt6I

>>112492453
>Not in Spain

This is true.

We are always a step behind everyone.

>>112493102

Gen Z in Spain will redpill themselves when they are starving because of their mistake of electing a far-left chavist.

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>>112493189
I will regret it, but please, accept this humble meme. I had it under seven locks, but it is time for me to pass it out. Please, handle with caution.

>>112493339
Stop posting this fucking idiot for God's sake.

>>112490621
I remember how some media started to do hitpieces against Josep Anglada, right when the party was starting to show promise circa 2007.
They thought they would convince some of the 10.000-15.000 voters they had back then to stop voting for them, but in reality, the achieved the exact opposite, as you can see from the 2010 results I mentioned above.

After that, the message was clear, as the usual "TV stars" who criticised that party (Wyoming, Evole and cia), magically stopped saying anything about them.

hoy mi padre me ha dicho que unos de su curro (Sudamericanos) estaban enfadados por que supuestamente les tenían que cambiar de puesto (enchufe) ya que militan en Podemos.

para que os hagáis una idea mi padre es medico y trabaja en las sanidad publica

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>>112478053

Where is this Spanish empire you guys are talking about? I don't see it. :/

>>112493921
The entire world is our empire.

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>>112493758
Im sorry but if you want to speak about Spanish royal family and heritage you can not miss him, a real Austria who could be King of Spain as the Borbons are.

>>112493855
Que los sudacas estaban enfadados? What?
>>112493921
You are missing out Ceuta and Melilla.

>>112493289
Levantamiento against who? The problem is our enemies are not even in the country and everybody is easily manipulated.

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>>112493758
go to school and learn some history. Respect Delfin Asturiano as your legit King

>>112493855
continua
>>112493921
your whole country is named after a spanish king, still to this day lol

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>>112494064
>>112494266
Stop shitposting.

>>112493189
>>112490597

A reminder:

https://www.eyeonspain.com/blogs/cataloniacalling/13769/1714---The-Case-of-the-Catalans-Considerd.aspx

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>>112494415
KEK

>>112494415

kek

Spain is underrated. You guys should conquer Europe or something to stand out.

>>112483732
>Killing your own people

Stupid moore

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>>112494876
Soon

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>>112494266
Fucking Kraut

>>112494552
Never trust anglos, they are vile.

>>112494932
>your own people
How?

So guys, is Spain not entirely fucked yet?

>>112496287
Spain is agonizing, unless something is done it'll be over soon.

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>>112496287
Nah, there is SOME hope yet. But we need to burn it all down first.

>>112487239
Do they now? They are catalans themselves!

Also, they are voted by catalans.

>>112496287
We need to start voting for vox in the next elections. And Catalonia should under no circumstances try to secede.

The thing is this: If party like Podemos could join the parlament, having this party just 2 years old, this means that it can happen again, but with an alt-right party (but it will be harder)

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>A song for all those Catalans that never came back from the East

It's cold I'm afraid
It's been like this for a day
The water is rising and slowly we're dying
We won't see light again
We won't see our wives again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y6hwrfPehs

>>112493106
Pero yo no quiero que Cataluña muera... estoy abierto a deportaciones de xarnegos y que Cataluña pueda controlar inmigración de dentro de España. Yo estoy harto de este tema y me duele mucho que la derecha en este país haya abrazado un discurso totalmente jacobino respecto a este tema. Tengo un amigo que dice que el catalán debe ser destruido para siempre como ocurrió en Francia con el occitano, el bretón o incluso diferentes lenguas de oil distintas al francés parisino. Estoy harto de defender como España fue y como debió haberse mantenido. Estoy harto de explicar que nuestra lengua se llama castellano y no español.

cuteness overload

>>112483732
>El dia la vara no llegara nunca

>>112484591
>Leonor I la Catolica
Life is nothing but cycles

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Why are Spaniards such pussies?

I know you guys export the most wine in the world.

>>112498061
We are beer country in regarding consumption and a wine country regarding production.

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>>112498488
Well...