I'm studying the Gospels and I think I'm turning into

>>110886234
the one that lets you divorce and have prenups.

>Jesus' teachings are still incredibly relevant today
quote some

this is now a /pol/ bible discusion thread

unless you accept Jesus as your lord and savior, and believe that God raised him from the dead, it doesn't really matter

>>110886234
Pick Orthodoxy. It is how the religion was originally practiced.

>>110886520
I would love to, but I don't know them in English

>>110886650
What do you mean by that? What's the way Christianity is practiced today and how was it is practiced by Orthodoxes?

The true path is Messianic Judaism. I realize how unpopular a viewpoint that is here.

Consider the following:

Jesus was in the temple on Hannukah

Nowhere is it stated it is ok to eat pork after Leviticus bans it

Jesus observed all the lord's feasts and didn't celebrate his own birth or ressurection.

Easter and Christmas ARE and ALWAYS HAVE BEEN pagan

Praying for you.

Check out One for Israel on Youtube
and
Rabbi K. A. Schneider

>>110887009
Orthodoxy is the original Christianity. Catholics and Protestants practice a version were certain specific customs have been changed (doctrine hasn't changed too much though), specially Protestantism. If you want a more authentic version of Christianity than you should be orthodox. You can look up the detailed differences.

>>110887330
Links
https://www.youtube.com/user/WWWoneforisraelORG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QJQcC4J6a4

http://robschannel.com/ephraim-awakening

You are part of the awakening!

>>110887009
A Catholic will tell you the same thing. Catholicism and Orthodoxy are the two to look into. I'm personally looking into Catholicism.

>"I guarantee you that after you die you will not say 'I spent too much time praying; I wish I had watched more TV instead."

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Orthodoxy obviously, Catholicism is the version for the masses.

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>>110889576
Catholic will not tell you the same, I only see Americans claim that.
>Byzantine/greek christianity
>orthodoxy is just called pravoslavie
>a part of the church starts makign reforms
>the people who now call themselves orthodox are against those reforms because they want to keep the rituals (obryad) the way they are
>Catholic means universal (plebified) / orthodox means true to the source.

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>>110886234
Gnosticism is the ultimate red-pill.

>>110887330
>Thinking you can ever become a kew of you are white

sorry buddy, you are just cockroach level for real jews.

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>>110892866

Gnosticism and Eastern meditation

>>110886234

Follow and Trust in Jesus Christ, don't bother with branches at all

>>110886234
fuck compassion and kindness

DEUS VULT CUNT!

>>110886234
I'm a Catholic but I'm usually terrified to tell people, as I live in ultra liberal California. When I date guys and I tell them I was raised Catholic and believe in God they usually think I'm joking.

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>>110886234
Lord Jesus is God the son.

The world hates Christians because it hates God.

ohn 15:18
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

>>110894103
marry me, then.

>>110886234
>Jesus' teachings are
All either garbage or just basic "don't be an asshole" things.

>>110893392

You literally do not understand scripture at all.

I wish I could be less blunt. Read the link about Ephraim's awakening I posted. I'm not interested in the approval of so called Jews. I'm interested in the approval of Yeshua.

Praying for you man

>>110894103
Every Mexican in California is Catholic. talk to some different people.

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>>110894452
Youre a faggot Jew and it's obvious

>>110887330
Acts 10:10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

>don't call WHAT GOD HAS CLEANED 'common', i.e. dirty goy food
>GOD HAS CLEANED

I started at messianic Judaism. They had me believing I can't turn on light switches or use electricity during sabbath.

Read acts 10:15 over and over again, until it hits you.

>Rabbi K. A. Schneider
Matthew 23:8
But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
It's like going around calling yourself "master". It's ridiculous.

>>110886234
Christ is the light my friend, good for you.

I was originally atheist because my parents were irreligious and my Anglican school just seemed like BS.
Never hated religion, but I became a militant atheist after high school because I read Dawkins and watched Hitchens, also I worked in a couple of Bangladeshi restaurants and saw Muslims up close (some of the westernised ones were okay, but it was obvious that these people are unhealthy fora country in large doses). Basically became a militant rationalist, had no time for spiritual nonsense.

Discovered mediation while living in Germany because there is a yoga class at the gym I was going to.
Discovered Buddhism, the truths made sense to me.
Become abstinent and vegan.
After one year think fuck this, become Satanist.

I realise now that the Buddhism was the recognition that there are spiritual truths, same with the satanism except they were about me looking out for myself and admitting that parts of my inner nature were also righteous and true.

Finally Gnosticism brought it altogether for me.
You have to do yoga or at least, you have to come to the truths yourself. You have to become like Christ.

The church omitted some very important texts that not only cause the bible to make sense when included, but they also corroborate the teachings of the bible with more ancient and mystical traditions. Jesus would have been a yogi himself, if you understand yoga you can see this, things that seemed strange or culturally odd are actually explicable is you imagine that the path Jesus followed internally is also one that you can follow.

It's also the ultimate red-pill because it is a conspiracy theory which is something people here seem to love.

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>>110886234
>Maybe he wasn't the son of God ( He was)

>>110891465
Orthodoxy is perfection but in the west we are accustomed to unorthodox bullshit, we have made our beds...

>>110895275
>You have to become like Christ
This is heretical. Only God saves, through grace.

Don't tell me to read occult books like the 'gospel of Thomas'.

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>>110886234

orthodoxy > catholic >>>>> cucktestant

>>110895936
I suppose meditation and yoga are off limits too?

>>110895275

Jesus practiced kriya yoga according to the yogis themselves

>>110887009

The Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom(a 4th century saint) is what is celebrated every Sunday in Orthodox parishes, and his liturgy was modeled after the liturgy of St. James which is from the 1st century.

>>110896104
The problem with yoga is that it encourages kundalini energy which is a serpent that goes up your spine. Mine activated when I got in to the occult and it caused me physical pain in my brain which I had to pray to God to be healed of and undo it.

It's dangerous and it's not biblical or required to be saved. Do you think those 'yogic masters' swimming in garbage in India and sitting in the dirt in their loin cloths are blessed by God? Are they saved? Are they your masters? Are they gods?

If yoga is so great why are they doomed living with no hope?

As for meditation you can think about God whenever you like, all day. You don't need to sit cross-legged for that. If you want to praise God while sitting cross legged in nature, great.

>>110897257

Autobiography of a Yogi is a fantastic book that answers your questions

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>>110897257
>The problem with yoga is that it encourages kundalini energy which is a serpent that goes up your spine. Mine activated when I got in to the occult and it caused me physical pain in my brain which I had to pray to God to be healed of and undo it.

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>>110895059
You've missed the point of Matthew 23:8

He was meaning don't be lead astray by false teaching. Nothing is being taught there that is false.


>I started at messianic Judaism. They had me believing I can't turn on light switches or use electricity during sabbath.

That is your folly for misunderstanding the teaching of Yeshua himself, "if your sheep fell in a well on the sabbath, which of you would not go and get it?"

Do not cast aside the true path for your own blindness.

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>>110886234
always ask first, why not? not, why

http://www.biblicalcatholic.com/apologetics/ShreddingTheGospels.htm

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>>110886234
Orthodox

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Food for thought

>>110886520
"turn the other cheek and be a beta cuck so that us jews can steam-roll you"

>>110899906

its hard to be orthodox. I recommend easing into it slowly. I still cant fast properly. i dont have that power level yet

>>110886234
orthodox. protestants and catholics are the reason people hate Christianity and are suspicious of it. weeds that will be burned in the fire and not stored in God's barn. shame on them.

>>110895936

Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

You need to save yourself, Christ will guide you but you can't sit on your ass and expect gnosis to be given to you by your pastor

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>>110900376

>>110895936
But there is no Sola Fide

>>110901793
And yet Protestantism contradict early christians

all church fathers contradict sola fide

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>>110886234
>I think I'm turning into a Christian.
>Maybe he wasn't the son of God

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>>110893749
>>110892866
the bible itself has verses that instruct meditation in proverbs and psalm.

>>110886234
DON'T GO CATHOLIC, IT IS THE CLUB OF ELITIST KEKS AND PEDOPHILES

>>110886234
Catholic. We're the good guys.

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>>110905795
no you arent

Benedict XVI is still alive.

What a CV.

>>110886234
why do u need to be any kind of branch?

just be a christian and read the bible

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>tfw block out sexual arousal because was brought up christian where lust was a big no-no
>my first experience of looking up pictures of naked people resulted in dad getting mad at me and saying it wasn't right, then getting even madder when I just said I wanted to know what things looked like (which is all it was at the time, I wasn't wanking to it but he didn't believe me)
>only wank like twice a week
>only think of the act of wanking while doing it, not any fantasies or porn because they're psychologically off limits
>friend asks if I'm asexual
>don't know
>when asked, can't think of a time when I have gotten an erection because of thinking of someone
>don't know how much is biological low sex drive and how much is childhood psychological trauma and/or growing up with lust being forbidden

what do, I have no idea where convictions end and biology is meant to take over and I feel like the basic lack of desire has resulted in me having no initiative or motivation to be in a relationship

>>110908097
weird...i think im like this too

>>110886234
while i believe orthodoxy is by far the best, you should probably chose one closest to your spirituality and maybe even the spirituality of your fellow people (for italians it's obviously catholicism)

catholicism is great, has amazing tradition, great art and music, i don't like the concepts of papal supremacy, sin absolution and mythology of angry god but some people like it.

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>>110905164

Reminder that every major religion, such as Catholicism, Orthodox or Protestantism is full of religious leaders who are cucks and pedos.

They are modern day Pharisees who Jesus preached against.

>>110886520


>>110908097

>Only wank like twice a week

Nothing wrong with that.

>Only think of it while doing it

Okay fine.

>Friend asks if you're asexual
>You don't know

You're not asexual, you are just suppressed sexually.

>Can't think of a time when you've gotten hard thinking of someone

That's because again, you've been sexually suppressed.

>>don't know how much is biological low sex drive and how much is childhood psychological trauma and/or growing up with lust being forbidden

Mostly suppression and trauma.

You should seek God but also seek yourself. Realize that your sexual feelings are normal. Even the ones right now where you feel numb and suppressed are a normal reaction.

You need to find a healthy why to vent this.

>>110908429
>>110908097

Also, are either of you on meds at the moment?

Free Church of Scotland. It's Trump approved.

>>110909104
I'm not on any meds
What do you suggest a healthy way to vent it is?

>>110886411
That will be the denomination that is ignoring the word of God.

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>>110909268

Start getting yourself some playboy magazines and wank it to beautiful women. If you're uncomfortable with nudity, try swimsuit magazines at first.

There is literally nothing wrong with enjoying the sight of a beautiful woman. It's natural and only cucks want to take that part of your masculinity away.

Look at King David, he was beloved by God and had any woman he wanted.

Just don't watch degenerate porn like cuckoldry and that shit.

>>110910104
>>110909268
I'd suggest trying to wank to hentai manga as well.

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>>110886234
Catholic

>>110886234
Catholic Cons
>The (current) Pope
>You got some people bowing to Mary (though they won't just come out and say it)
>Have to do confessions at Chruch
>Salvation through good works

Protty
There's no easy bullet point for protty cons. It really depends for each denomination. I can only tell you what we most agree on.
>Sola Scriptura (The Bible is the word of God and it is sufficient on judging things)
>Can ask God directly for forgiveness
>Salvation through Faith by the grace of God

The cons... I don't know. I guess like those dumbasses at Young Earth church, or those that don't believe in the reality of micro evolution.

There's also this one (Heretical) denomination which is the Black Nazareth. They literally worship this idol of Jesus because it came from wood that survived a ship burning.

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>>110895770
good to see people waking up

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>>110886234
Everything wise about Jesus is just a retelling of the popular Egyptian philosophers that came before him. Jesus was entirely a product of his time in Egypt.

>>110911934

Cons are simple

>Various heresies
>May or may not acknowledge Christ as God.
>Might require weird customs like banning caffeine or eating like a Jew.
>The Protestant ethic
>Ignoring the scriptural significance of the Apocrypha

>>110912158

You took the Zeitgeist movie pill, and that's nice and all but you haven't taken the redpill yet.

Most of the religious banter in that documentary was inaccurate.

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>>110886520
>Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends.
Corinthians 4:8

>And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony.
Collossians 3:14

>Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.
John 1:4-8

The New Testament has such a beautiful and humanistic message, I don't know how people can just dismiss it

Go to blessyahowah.com . We read from the oldest greek manuscripts and dead sea scrolls. Don't get conned by CHristians, half of the shit in their bastardized "Bibles" are nonsense.

We're doing a Towrah Study tonight in 5mins, google: Yada Yah blogtalk

>>110914210
Ehhhh, no thanks

>>110908097
force yourself and get into a relationship.

This>>110900856

Nobody else can do it for you.

>>110912158
Osiris is supposedly the original story of resurrection.

>>110886650
>tfw no Orthodox church near me
Byzantine Chanting is the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q8i0CYs-CM

>>110886234
This happened to me, I was an atheist fedorafag until I started to study the Gospels. I'm going through Catholic initiation right now, there isn't many Protestant churches here in the UK besides Baptist and Methodist, neither of which appeal to me. It's mainly Anglicans here, and their church is in chaos because it is cucked, and panders to progressives.

>>110886650
>allows divorce
>this is how it always was
No, you caved to medieval Slavic monarchs like the Anglicans did with Henry

>>110886234
i'm not going christcuck until they have the balls for crusades 2.0

>>110900545
It's true that orthodox fasting is quite hardcore. But it shows true devotion. I also haven't gotten to this level.

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>>110917284
do you support pic related then?

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>>110887330
>Easter and Christmas ARE and ALWAYS HAVE BEEN pagan

You know, baptizing pagan holidays aren't the same as preserving pagan holidays. The Church formed Christimas and Easter around the traditional dates for Yule and the Spring Solstice celebrations to provide newly converted pagans with a cultural link to their people/culture while at the same time transforming them into a distinctly Christian holiday. It's actually pretty fucking genius. Rather than outright banning or outlawing traditional pagan feasts, the Church essentially hijacked them and made them their own.

>>110886234
God bless you friend. As long as you believe Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior you're gonna be fine. Churches shouldn't compete with each other, we're all trying to honor our Lord.

>>110886234
What the hell is even the point? You don't even believe in all of it, just admit you're a cultural Christian like every other retard is

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>>110886234
My recommendation would be to read G.K. Chesterton. Particularly his "trilogy" of Christian apologetics, namely:
Heretics, Orthodoxy and, finally, The Everlasting Man.

In fact I would recommend that all Pagan Larpers on here read it, if not for the sake of educational value, then at least in an attempt to actually know Christian (Catholic specifically) doctrine before disparaging it.

Here are two good videos from the Chesterton Society of America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBpZrfawy7c
(The everlasting man)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mtERIWYxk0

(Chesterton vs Nietzsche i.e. Christianity vs Humanism/Nihilism)

>>110911934
Cons: illegitimate and contradict all the early christians

>>110919982
This is not true.
Heresies need to be weeded out and removed. Otherwise we can simply apply your theory to every other religion:
"Religions shouldn't compete with each other, we're all trying to honour a God"
They dilute the truth of the Catholic Church by inseminating it with pride and hubris

>>110920182
No-one starts their journey full of faith. You become filled with it as you walk the path and reach gnosis. It's a strange idea atheists have that you must believe fully before you can become a Christian when it's the exact opposite, you become a Christian so the Holy Spirit can come into you and give you the belief you need.

>May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope.

>>110909525
Based Kraut

>>110920737
There's a difference between non-idealized and caricature.

>>110886234
>Maybe he wasn't the son of God, but nobody at the time was capable of teaching such compassion and kindness.

Yeah, all the Asians who taught such ideas were born hundreds or thousands of years before.

>>110920737
im not sure if this is a post to criticise human trait of seeing only the superficial or just to make fun of christians

probably 2nd since yore a muslim and this is 4chan

>>110886234
Start by realizing he is not only the son but also God. If you do not accept this then you cannot be a Christian.

>>110886234
The bible is a collection of old oral stories writen in the third century a.c. by a roman emperor in the first council of nicea.
If you are an emperor, how you want the people you rule?
Why is different the God from old testament than the one in the new?
Jesus is Barrabas. Bar-abbas: son of the father.

>>110909027
>>Only wank like twice a week

>Nothing wrong with that.

>>110910104
>Start getting yourself some playboy magazines and wank it to beautiful women. If you're uncomfortable with nudity, try swimsuit magazines at first.

>There is literally nothing wrong with enjoying the sight of a beautiful woman. It's natural and only cucks want to take that part of your masculinity away.

>Look at King David, he was beloved by God and had any woman he wanted.

>Just don't watch degenerate porn like cuckoldry and that shit.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A27-30&version=NASB
Matthew 5:27-30New American Standard Bible (NASB)

27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery’; 28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye makes you [a]stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you [b]to lose one of the parts of your body, [c]than for your whole body to be thrown into [d]hell. 30 If your right hand makes you [e]stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you [f]to lose one of the parts of your body, [g]than for your whole body to go into [h]hell.

>>110917212
you probably just need to be more selective with your church/find traditional common prayer mass which enough churches will provide before/after modern service.

i was born and raised catholic and schooled in a lasallian brotherhood, but wasn't until a good decade later i found protestantism much more authentic. i can understand you being more drawn to catholicism with its bells and whistles, but that earthly authority is no more than a racket to me.

learning about the practice of indulgences, the "give us your shekels, you want salvation don't you goy?" is something i was never taught before and fucked with my house of cards as much as learning about the german revolution of 1918-19 and its aftermath, also something i was never taught.

>>110921352
The ideas are not the same. Please educate yourself on the various theologies before spouting such a useless platitude.
The idea of Jesus and Buddha being linked has been disproved for longer than a century.

Not in any other religion, or any other faith, has God contemplated the murder of God. Now you may not understand this, but this is the fundamental difference. A difference meditated on for 2 thousand years by the greatest thinkers in history. I will not attempt a disservice to their thought. Please educate yourself.

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>>110886234

>Valid Christian Tier
The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church
Eastern Orthodox, Sedevacantist Catholics, and other schismatics that recognize apostolic succession


>Average Tier
Mormons
Methodists
High Church Anglicans
Lutherans

>Low Tier
Southern Baptists
Evangelicals


>Absolute Degeneracy Tier
Episcopalian
Christian Scientist
Unitarian
"Non-Denominational"

>>110886234
I tried to get into the Bible.I really tried.

But then they said thier was a talking snow. Really?

An invisible man who lives in the sky?

A Zombie that nobody freaks ou about?

Then a 900 year old man.


Sounds legit.

>>110922823
Snake I meant. A fucking snake that talks:

>>110922823
>>110923076
>why are there supernatural things in religion?

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>>110886234
You can pretty much do and experience these things without being part of said religion.

Well if you seek a sense of community then perhaps it's of service but don't get caught up with it.

>>110922823
God isn't invisible nor does he live in the sky. The serpent is Satan, has many names in the Bible. Pro tip: Cain is the offspring of Satan and eve.

They lived longer because the earth was different before the flood due to the firmament.

>>110923170
Why do ppl tell me stories to get my $?

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>>110922823
>I tried to get into the Bible.I really tried.

>"wtf! This expects me to believe in God!?"

>>110923551
You don't even have to give any money in church.

>>110922823
Do you not have an imagination?
Do you not understand the simple concept of symbolism, allegory and paradox?

Do you not yet understand that religion is not simply the over-inflation of rationality/logic, but speaks to the human in human terms, that is, through both the creative/illogical and rational/logic.
It is the perfect unity of the full scope of human intelligence, not just specialised/mechanical logic.

>>110923535
It's a scam. Niggers always told me the biggest scams were pimping and preaching.

T grew up around niggers.

>>110922060
Not saying they're identical, just saying Jesus wasn't the first great benevolent philosopher. He has lots of good points and a lot of good things to say, but he isn't the only one.

>>110923735
I see the good,but everywhere I ever we go they always need money.

How the fuck is Orthodoxy better than other Christian movements?

Orthodoxy is fucking hermetic to its followers. You see priests only at funerals, and they charge you money for it. And Russian Orthodoxy, which is wrestling the smaller churches for supremacy, is even worse.

>>110901012

Yeah, that's always been the point of Christianity in my eyes. You set the example and they break into tears at how childish/evil they are being to another man that wishes nothing but the best for them.

That is how Early Christianity gained a foothold, anyways.

>>110924491
And proddies contradict the early Christians

If God is so bad with money,why should ai follow him?

Nigger can't even pay for shit. Fuxk Dat.

>>110922014
I've been to an Anglican Church in London that specifically preaches against all the progressive crap that is seeping into it.

Just keep looking for a vicar who gives sermons you like.

>>110886234
>catholic or protestant

Keep going down the rabbit hole m8
Read from the Nag Hammadi, The gospel of thomas in particular.
Then read the book of Enoch.

>>110924625

Catholics are openly supporting homosexual marriage as an institution entirely. At least with protestantism, you still have a lot of redpilled ministers that can relate scripture to modern day politics in a way that hurts cultural marxism (especially in America).

>>110922580
Ahem, Anglicans regard ourselves as catholic and apostolic.

Study all the denominations, just be yourself.

>>110924980
>>110922014

That's fair enough, I'm sure High Church Anglicanism is very sound. Yet at the same time Anglicanism seems too much like a "national" church that's rooted in English culture, whereas I am from a Muslim country, so the "universal" aspect of Catholicism does appeal to me. But I will go to some Anglican services as well.

>>110925098
And they still contradict the early Christians

Catholicism
Source: Deus Vult

>>110925846
Where is the contradiction? The nature of Christ? I can tell you the cult of Mary is a hidden religion in Orthodoxy.

>>110923890

You've fallen into the trap of believing comparative religion. Again, this has been disproved as illogical about a century ago.

"Comparative religion is very comparative indeed. That is, it is so much a
matter of degree and distance and difference that it is only comparatively
successful when it tries to compare. When we come to look at it closely we
find it comparing things that are really quite incomparable. We are accustomed
to see a table or catalogue of the world's great religions in parallel columns,
until we fancy they are really parallel. We are accustomed to see the names of
the great religious founders all in a row: Christ; Mahomet; Buddha; Confucius.
But in truth this is only a trick, another of these optical illusions by which any
objects may be put into a particular relation by shifting to a particular point of
sight. Those religions and religious founders, or rather those whom we choose
to lump together as religions and religious founders, do not really show any
common character. The illusion is partly produced by Islam coming
immediately after Christianity in the list; as Islam did come after Christianity
and was largely an imitation of Christianity. But the other eastern religions, or
what we call religions, not only do not resemble the Church but do not
resemble each other. When we come to Confucianism at the end of the list, we
come to something in a totally different world of thought. To compare the
Christian and Confucian religions is like comparing a theist with an English
squire or asking whether a man is a believer in immortality or a hundred-percent
American. Confucianism may be a civilisation but it is not a religion.In truth the Church is too unique to prove herself unique. For most popular and
easy proof is by parallel; and here there is no parallel. It is not easy, therefore,
to expose the fallacy by which a false classification is created to swamp a
unique thing, when it really is a unique thing."

The Everlasting man p. 53

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>>110926086
Show me where in the early church fathers do you find sola fide

I am waiting dumb proddieshit

>>110886234
Christianity is jewish slavery.

Who is the "chosen people" in the OT?

Stop being a retarded good goy and learn of the occult.

>>110924178

You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with holding on to your money.
That must be working wonders on your soul.
What is the price of your soul, anyway ?

>>110925846
Which early Christians? The dark ages Christians that were piled with corruption? The Arianism Christians that didn't believe in the divinity of Christ? The only early Christians I care about where the Seven churches of Asia as they taught Biblical Christianity whereas St. Augustine is burning in hell for being a false prophet.

Baptists are like Methodists with freedom

>>110926714
Protestants are the heretics

All the martyrs who suffered contradict proddie

>>110926597
Sola fide and Sola Scriptura are heresies.
It's not too late to convert to the true church as your countryman GK Chesterton did after a lifetime in the High Church of England.

http://aseedinbriar.blogspot.com.au/2009/11/on-sola-scriptura-sola-fides.html

>>110927120
Show me biblical examples I don't care what the early false prophets of the Roman Faggot church said, some robed faggot in a collar spouting non Biblical nonsense means nothing to me give me scripture.

>>110926597
Dude, I don't even care about protestants, I don't understand their doctrine. The deeper problem is that I do not understand the difference between Catholic and Eastern Orthodox doctrine. You know, the big Schism. I do not understand it.

>>110927120
Romans 5:1 - Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ

Ephesians 2:8-9 - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God

Romans 3:28 - Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

all of these verses prove sola fide I can get more if you like
>INB4 PRODDIE ACTUALLY READS BIBLE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS DONT READ BIBLES PRODDIE BTFO

>>110886234
Read Hume, it will cure you

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>>110886234
Reject Christianity. Embrace Taoist Alchemean Sorcery.

>>110927325
Oops...the bible says that God would make sure hades will not prevail over what he built

Too bad it got destroyed

>>110927600
PAUL SAYS YOUR CONDUCT WILL BE JUDGED

NOW THAT CONTRADICTS SOLA FIDE

>>110926277
I'm not comparing religions. I'm addressing the poster suggestion that Jesus was the only great philosopher or teacher.

Pepsi is great, especially if it is the only soda you've ever tried. In reality there are lots of other soda's out there, some you may enjoy more than Pepsi. I can't tell you what soda you'd like most, we could even debate if some sodas are even in the same category as others. None of that changes that others are out there?

>>110928013
John 5:24 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.-John 3:16

Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

I can get even more proofs from scripture if you like

>>110886234
non denominational protestant. One God, One Master

>>110926277
There are different interpretations of a throughout translated and ancient text, chill out pls

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>>110886234
>Maybe he wasn't the son of God
Check this out

>>110928385
Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” (Matthew 22:34-40)

Sola Fide BTFO

>>110927600

Again, an argument destroyed by the apostle of common sense. This is getting tiresome.


Thus, for instance, Catholicism, in a sense little understood, stands outside a quarrel like that of Darwinism at Dayton. It stands outside it because it stands all around it, as a house stands all around two incongruous pieces of furniture. It is no sectarian boast to say it is before and after and beyond all these things in all directions. It is impartial in a fight between the Fundamentalist and the theory of the Origin of Species, because it goes back to an origin before that Origin; because it is more fundamental than Fundamentalism. It knows where the Bible came from. It also knows where most of the theories of Evolution go to. It knows there were many other Gospels besides the Four Gospels, and that the others were only eliminated by the authority of the Catholic Church. It knows there are many other evolutionary theories besides the Darwinian theory; and that the latter is quite likely to be eliminated by later science. It does not, in the conventional phrase, accept the conclusions of science, for the simple reason that science has not concluded. To conclude is to shut up; and the man of science is not at all likely to shut up. It does not, in the conventional phrase, believe what the Bible says, for the simple reason that the Bible does not say anything. You cannot put a book in the witness-box and ask it what it really means. The Fundamentalist controversy itself destroys Fundamentalism. The Bible by itself cannot be a basis of agreement when it is a cause of disagreement; it cannot be the common ground of Christians when some take it allegorically and some literally. The Catholic refers it to something that can say something, to the living, consistent, and continuous mind of which I have spoken; the highest mind of man guided by God.

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>>110886234
>Maybe he wasn't the son of God
Also this

God bless, anon.

>>110928013
God often times judged the tribes of Israel for their conduct and even making them wander in the desert for 40 years, that was their judgement but notably missing was loss of their salvation or punishment in purgatory

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>>110928385
SOLA FIDE BTFO

>>110919697
Also, the date of Christmas isn't for yule, it actually aligns with the stars which the wise men followed leading up to the birth of Christ. Check out this eye opening vid if you have the time, really mind blowing honestly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGUlWa2r-bk

>>110928759
Sola fide says that you are a mere passive tool that God moves

That means no room for human action

>>110928984
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will put the sheep at his right hand and the goats at the left.

“Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’

“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’

“And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’

“Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’

“Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’

“Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” (Matthew 25:31-46)

>>110929114
Sola FIDE BTFO

>>110928839
Everyone sins, bondage is different from damnation

>>110928711
The problem with that is the ((((Church fathers))) can just shit out new doctrine as they see fit and find "new law from the old councils" and then just shit it out like it is the law of God when it is the law of man.

>>110927600
"deeds of the law" means Mosaic law.

>>110929114
None of these prove a works based salvation at all and the mental gymnastics you had to preform to come to that conclusion is astounding

>>110886234
the reason Americans idolize Jesus so much isn't as much as a religious hard on per se, but just that he was the perfect citizen. Rejected money to walk his land teaching others to love each other and fight corruption and lies. Taught absolute truth as the paramount trait of any citizen.

It's the idea of what humanity could be if more people were like him as citizens. America is a country built off of Jesus teachings moreso than by Christianity's overall teachings and belief system. That's why we aren't necessarily a "christian" country officially, but we idolize Jesus. He was just the perfect neighbor, and we try to manifest that here in most rural areas of the US.

>>110929237
Except sola FIDE denies the role of human action

Oops...PAUL SAYS.....

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/%3Fsearch%3DRomans%2B2%26version%3DNIV%26interface%3Damp

>>110929528
Faith is an action, accepting and believing in Christ is an action. Are you a child?

>>110910104
Idiot sinner. No pornography is good nor right.

>>110929401
As long as human action is required and humans are judged for what they do, sola FIDE is destroyed as such implies that human beings must also play their part

Sola FIDE means GOD ACTING ON MAN MAKING HIM BELIEVE

FAITH IS PASSIVE AND NOT ACTIVE

>>110929665
Except of course sola FIDE says that faith is passive and is of God moving man

>>110887330
JIDF shill go away

>>110929760
Accepting Christ and having faith is an action.

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>>110886234
I don't claim to be an expert on the bible or the Christian faith (though I am a Christian), but I will always defend Catholicism over Protestantism. I was baptized Roman Catholic, and I have always enjoyed Catholic prayer a lot more than the Protestant masses I've been to. I feel a lot closer to God and to my forefathers in a traditional church and in a traditional ceremony than I do a plain, boring Protestant church and its English prayers. I respect protestants for their belief in the one true God, but I disagree with their methods of prayer and notions that you can get into heaven just by accepting Jesus. The Lord would not have given us free will if you got into heaven no matter what you did in life.

>>110929237
Getting tired of spoon feeding you, my friend.
Again, this is from one of your own who converted to the only true Christian church.

just as Protestants appealed from priests to the Bible, and did not realize that the Bible also could be questioned, so republicans appealed from kings to the people, and did not realize that the people also could be defied. There is no end to the dissolution of ideas, the destruction of all tests of truth, that has become possible since men abandoned the attempt to keep a central and civilized Truth, to contain all truths and trace out and refute all errors. Since then, each group has taken one truth at a time and spent the time in turning it into a falsehood. We have had nothing but movements; or in other words, monomanias. But the Church is not a movement but a meeting-place; the trysting-place of all the truths in the world.

>>110886234
Did he really flip the shekeltables?

>>110929849
I am not a Calvinist you have me confused with a 5 point Calvinist that is their doctrine, salvation is faith in Christ which is an act of acceptance of Christ by man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDEBz25lGdY

>>110930006
Not according to sola FIDE

The doctrine of sola fide asserts God's pardon for guilty sinners is granted to and received through faith alone, excluding all "works". All mankind, it is asserted, is fallen and sinful, under the curse of God, and incapable of saving itself from God's wrath and curse. But God, on the basis of the life, death, and resurrection of his Son, Jesus Christ alone (solus Christus), grants sinners judicial pardon, or justification, which is received solely through faith. Faith is seen as passive, merely receiving Christ and all his benefits, among which benefits are the active and passive righteousness of Jesus Christ. Christ's righteousness, according to the followers of "sola fide," is imputed (or attributed) by God to the believing sinner (as opposed to infused or imparted), so that the divine verdict and pardon of the believing sinner is based not upon anything in the sinner, nor even faith itself, but upon Jesus Christ and his righteousness alone, which are received through faith alone.

It is God moving man as a PUPPETTER moves puppet

>>110886234
Catholic (regular or Traditional) or Orthodox

>>110930260
Except of course that doesn't even count as the act of acceptance also means effort and struggle to conform and keep faith

Deal with it

That means works of one's free will contradicting sola fide

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>>110930488
Sola FIDE btfo

>>110886234
I go to Both a Catholic and Pentecostal church.

My SO was raised in a Pentecostal church so we go to one. I like both churches, and both have their cons/pros.

It's nice to belong to both of them to switch it up and to meet people/attend events. I'd recommend picking a few churches you think you might like and go to a service.

The Catholic Church is nice because service is always 1 HR long, doesn't require you to dress up fancy, communion every service, great services for children, etc.

Pentecostal church's are easier to get use too, every service is different, lots of dancing and music, in my Pentecostal church usually everyone is dressed extremely formal, service is never only an hour, really learn about the Bible, etc. everyone Pentecostal church though is different.....

>>110930291
>>110930077
Proverbs 26:4- Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

I am done arguing with the Vatican II pedophile swine for tonight

>>110929401

>“Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’

“Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

That's not, as you put it, "mental gymnastics." It's crystal clear.

>>110930786
>protestant BTFO

>>110886234
Just general Christianity, no specific branch. Study the Bible yourself and make your own deductions.

Organized sects of religion tend to run into some kind of problem every so often.

>>110886234
Westboro Baptist Church

Original Sin is horseshit, paganism is the original religion of mankind. Everything that came after has been designed through omission and editing to control at the whims of the powerful.

>>110912158
>>110916021
debunked fedora talking points. look it up

>>110930786
Translation:
"Sorry mighty Catholics - Forgive me for i know not what i do."

Repent and CONFESS brother. It is not too late. After all, as Chesterton says:

"The difficulty of explaining “why I am a Catholic” is that there are ten thousand reasons all amounting to one reason: that Catholicism is true. I could fill all my space with separate sentences each beginning with the words, “It is the only thing that…” As, for instance, (1) It is the only thing that really prevents a sin from being a secret. "

>>110931168
ZZZZZZzzzzzz

Like those Carthaginians sacrificing to Moloch hey?
Man, that paganism sure does sound appealing!

>>110892569

>throwing water on a metal gun

>>110931718
allahu ackbar

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>>110896097
Pagans, you venerate saints, and humans as minor gods.

>>110887330
Jesus and Paul both mentioned it doesn't matter what you eat and furthermore Leviticus' dietary laws were solely for the good of ancient Israel.

Why would God be mad at Eve eating from the tree of knowledge?

>>110886234
The catholic church is the controlled opposition (Jesus was the real opposition).

The protestants have "modernized" the church.

The best choice is to read the bible yourself, and just follow it. You are not supposed to join a cult. That is not written anywhere in the bible.

>>110931785
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

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>>110931858
What about Polycarp?

>>110889576
Look up the Great Schism and Auvignon Papacy and tell me its the true church, not to mention you used to be able to pay to supposedly get into heaven, mainstream protestantism is cucked though also I admit.
t. raised Catholic, militant atheist in youth and now non-denom just a biblically adhering christian.

>>110902373
And so? The scripture is clear. Jn 12:47.

>>110893749
Pure heresy

The "new age" shit is old age evil


Dont go to church OP, stay clear of the apostates that deny The Word who call themselves christians today.

>>110932508
Yet sola FIDE and sola scriptura contradict the early church fathers

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>>110932626
Yet church fathers of early Christian contradict protestant

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>>110932626
Lose your fear and embrace the truth inside you. Try yoga and meditation.

>>110886234
Jesus was a zonbie

>>110909259

KyS, this is hilldawgxcountry

>>110928839
Jn 12:47.

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>>110932758

So you are arguing in favor of gnosticism now and in favor of eastern mediations...

>>110930753
We don´t need Paul. Just John (12:47)

>>110932825

No

I will always fear my God, He is eternal

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>>110933431
>shows Tertullian contradict sola scriptura
>suddenly argue for Gnosticism
PRODDIE LOGIC

>>110932633
In which way? You just gotta trust in God and he'll lead you mate.

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>>110886234
>Maybe he wasn't the son of God

>Gnostic propagandist detected.

Begone foul sodomite.

>>110933637
Yoga causes clarity, I put it to you that your God is a domestic abuser whose threatens you with eternity of torment for simply daring to think. This is evil. Your God is evil. There are truths within you that outmatch his words.

>>110933922
In every way

>>110886234
Unitarian Universalists, the Quakers, and the Mennonites are the most Christ like when it comes to how they treat other people.

>>110932500
>Implying something outside of the Bible is valid theology (is NOT 1Cor 4:6)

>Implying that the story is accurate.

>Implying that he has to be venerated like a minor god.

>>110933961
Tertullian

That allegory of the Lord [Matt. 5:25-26] . . . is extremely clear and simple in its meaning . . . [beware lest as] a transgressor of your agreement, before God the judge . . . and lest this judge deliver you over to the angel who is to execute the sentence, and he commit you to the prison of hell, out of which there will be no dismissal until the smallest even of your delinquencies be paid off in the period before the resurrection. What can be a more fitting sense than this? What a truer interpretation? (The Soul 35 [A.D. 210]).

"This place, the Bosom of Abraham, though not in Heaven, and yet above hell, offers the souls of the righteous an interim refreshment until the end of all things brings about the general resurrection and the final reward." (Tertullian, Against Marcion, 4:34, before 220 A.D.)

"Indeed she [a widow] prays for his [her husband's] soul and asks that he may, while waiting, find rest; and that he may share in the first resurrection [Heaven]. And each year, on the anniversity of his death, she offers the Sacrifice [i.e., has a Mass said for him]." (Tertullian, On Monagomy, 212 A.D.)

PRODDIES HATE THIS

>>110934208
>treat bones as treasure
>people want to touch him and possess his flesh
BOTH CONTRADICT PRODDIE

DEAL WITH IT

>>110933786

Nigger, you quoted my post about against gnosticism.

I didnt say shit about Tertullian, who as a matter of fact, fell to apostasy in his later years

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>>110933637
Jew Kike god is what you fear you are weak your alien invented god is weak

>>110886234
Jesus is God and He is very real.
Independent Fundamental Baptist is pretty good.

You sound like you would like Todd White though.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=_lS9onDM4_s

>>110920737
Jesus was most probably damn good looking. Just consider what kind of person would attract a big following.

>>110934001
Fuck you

I put it to you that your god is an impure spirit of a fallen angel, that hates you and all mankind through jealousy and pride.

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>>110886234
>be Lutheran branch Christian
>taught basic human virtues
>also taught to do unto others as they would do unto you

That last bit only really stands when you keep in mind the basic human virtues we learn. We were taught not to stoop to our enemy's level, but to vanquish them if they don't fucking cut their shit out.

>>110886234
>Jesus fulfilled Jewish law, thus rendering it no longer applicable
>Deuteronomy claims that anyone who attempts to change or add to Jewish is a heretic
>Deuteronomy is the word of god through a prophet
>Matthew is the word of Jesus through Matthew
>Jesus claims that the laws of prophets are still binding
>Followers of Jesus don't follow the laws of prophets

Christians are weird.

Fear the return of the Mighty God Skies wisdom and Lightning and his Son Kalki Pepe

>Tertullian was a Montanist heretic

Montanus lived in the Phrygian area of Asia Minor at the back end of the 2nd Century AD. He declared that the Holy Spirit was giving new revelations to the church, and named himself and two women, Priscilla and Maximilla, as prophets, although there were others. This was referred to as the New Prophecy. In the west, among the Montanist leaders was Proclus, with whom the Roman presbyter Gaius published a Debate.4

The emphases of the New Prophecy seem to have been on resisting persecution, fasting, and avoiding remarriage, together with hostility to any compromise with sin. Few of these points were controversial when judged against the ascetism of the next century. Tertullian tells us (in the quote by 'Praedestinatus' and in De Ieiunio) that the Spirit proclaimed no innovation in doctrine, but only gave directions about matters of church discipline, which were coming to be the prerogative of the bishop. It would seem that the Montanists were orthodox in all matters of doctrine.3

Responses to this were quite mixed in the church. After all, prophecy was a genuine gift of God, according to the New Testament. A reading of the anti-Montanist writers in Eusebius' Church History reveals a great deal of uncertainty among Christians at all levels as to whether the new prophecy was genuine or not. It seems also possible that Montanism in its homeland may have been heretical, but that it masked a genuine move of the Holy Spirit which in other places was entirely orthodox, and would today be regarded as pentecostal. In reality, it is very difficult to tell from the surviving remains, which include some wild rumours of the sort that circulate, albeit in good faith, where there is little real information and no means to check what is going on.

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>>110934447
Ironically of course, Irenaeus says this about Mary>>110926597


PRODDIE BTFO BY IRENAEUS

Sethian Gnosticism.

>>110934412
Who gives a crap about what people want?

You are either a chrisian, or a pagan, if you adore minor gods and don´t pay attention to the Bible, you are a PAGAN.
If not, you have to admit that praying TO saints is WRONG!

>>110934855
Of the Skies*

>Tertullian was a Montanist heretic 2

In Africa there was a lot of interest in the new prophecy, and Tertullian came to believe that it was genuine, accordingly mentioning it and defending it strongly in his later works. Unfortunately his work in defence of it, De ecstasi, in 7 books is lost. Tertullian fiercely attacks those who condemned the new prophecy, and in attacking the church authorities as more interested in their own political power in the church than in listening to the Spirit, he foreshadows the protestant reaction to papal claims.

Eventually Montanism was condemned by the bishop of Rome, and the Montanists were pushed out6. They lingered on in Asia Minor for some centuries, some growing definitely heretical. Later fathers of the church wrote an occasional polemic against them.

http://www.tertullian.org/montanism.htm

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>>110934501

My God is God of all peoples, He was before the judeans faggot

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>>110934479
>>110934479

>>110934001
You are essentially a full grown spoiled brat child, and that's why you will burn.

You love yourself but not your Father who made you.

Remember this post.

>>110934923
>cites Tertullian
>Tertullian shown to contradict proddie
>he is invalid because false

Abercius

The citizen of a prominent city, I erected this while I lived, that I might have a resting place for my body. Abercius is my name, a disciple of the chaste shepherd who feeds his sheep on the mountains and in the fields, who has great eyes surveying everywhere, who taught me the faithful writings of life. Standing by, I, Abercius, ordered this to be inscribed; truly I was in my seventy-second year. May everyone who is in accord with this and who understands it pray for Abercius (Epitaph of Abercius [A.D. 190]).

I see this thread full of Satanic people...

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>>110935080
Of course what matters is he and all the other church fathers contradict Protestant

And they all do

>>110935226
I have dared to question all my life, and with questions come answers. Raja yoga: try it.
Context: Christ was a Kria Yogi, if you understood Christ's path for yourself you would see it as blindingly obvious that things have been omitted from your text.

>>110934837
Jesus says he didn't come to abolish the Law but to fulfill it.
Fulfill means to finish.

>>110935592
And Deuteronomy says that no one can "end" Jewish law. t. God via Moses

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ironically for proddies...Irenaeus sees them as like GNOSTICS

Unable to agree with each other

And Irenaeus also contradict sola fide

>>110935226
The difference between listening to a piano composition to understand history, and playing the piece for yourself.
Just try yoga, as an experiment.

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if only /pol/ understood replacement theology, and how God's foreknowledge of the jew's rejection of Christ infers they were predestined for hell

watch marching to zion

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>>110934479
>>110934479
>>110934479

>>110935784
That looks like Ammit.

>>110886234
if you don't see Jesus as teh Son of God
NEITHER
go away and join a cult

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>>110934479

>>110934479
>110934479
Been there done that
they argue too much.

>>110935081
Prove me Such, also you worship worship a Kike God invented. I bet that meme looks like you.

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>>110935299


More old age doublethink

>>110935901
>same shit that had been debunked
PRODDIE BTFO

"It is within the power of all, therefore, in every Church, who may wish to see the truth, to contemplate clearly the Tradition of the Apostles manifested throughout the whole world; and we are in a position to reckon up those who were by the Apostles instituted Bishops in the Churches, and [to demonstrate] the succession of these men to our own times; those who neither taught nor knew of anything like what these [Gnostic heretics] rave about." - AH, 3, 3, 1

Sola scriptura debunked

sola scriptura denies apostolic succession

>>110936246
"Those, therefore, who desert the preaching of the Church, call in question the knowledge of the holy Priests, not taking into consideration of how much greater consequence is a religious man, even in a private station, than a blasphemous and impudent sophist. Now, such are all the heretics, and those who imagine that they have hit upon something more beyond the truth, so that by following those things already mentioned, proceeding on their way variously, inharmoniously, and foolishly, not keeping always to the same opinions with regard to the same things, as blind men are led by the blind, they shall deservedly fall into the ditch of ignorance lying in their path, ever seeking and never finding out the truth. It behoves us, therefore, to avoid their doctrines, and to take careful heed lest we suffer any injury from them; but to flee to the Church, and be brought up in her bosom, and be nourished with the Lord’s Scriptures. For the Church has been planted as a garden in this world; therefore says the Spirit of God, 'Thou mayest freely eat from every tree of the garden' that is, Eat ye from every Scripture of the Lord; but ye shall not eat with an uplifted mind, nor touch any heretical discord." - AH, 5, 20, 2

>>110935951
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2020&version=KJV;RSV

But you sub human should FEAR GOD INDEED AND He IS NOT THE GOD OF ALL PEOPLE BUT THE GOD OF THE CHOSEN ONES THE ARYANS it is in the VEDDAS :)

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>>110935951

>>110936378
Sola scriptura BTFO

>don't question the priests
>flee to the church for the true scripture
Contradicts sola scriptura already

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>>110936400

>>110936515
therightstuff.biz/2016/12/05/fatima-and-the-future-of-white-civilization-ii/

>>110936198
DIE KIKE Spiritual weak shit

>>110936400
That proves nothing

Irenaeus denies sola FIDE and sola scriptura and BELIEVES THAT MARY IS A CAUSE OF SALVATION

>>110935558
It took me 40 years of being a science applying fedora fag before I was born again entirely because God revealed Himself to me.

You're following Satan's lies.

Yoga is for conceited numale faggots.

Jesus is God, and your eastern word salad lol too deep 4 u religion is so fake and gay it isn't even worth being called a religion.

India is a God forsaken shithole for a reason.

Like I said, remember me when you find out for yourself.

>>110936076
Where these dudes the ones who built the holy hand grenade of antioch?

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>>110886234
Making a link to God through prayer is vital.
I pray when I'm doing mundane things; taking a shower, walking the dog, attending to the garden, etc.
Also more formally when I go to church.
Reading the Holy Bible will guide you. I have two Bibles. The King James and the New English versions. Also the book of common prayer. The language in the King James version requires careful reading. Here's an excellent online resource:
https://www.biblegateway.com/

I'm Protestant - Anglican as it's part of my culture. Demonination isn't really important. Following Christ is the key.
Matthew 7:7
>Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

I hope you find your path. I will pray for you.

>>110936630
Dumb shit

All I need to prove is that the fathers deny the five solaes

Which I already did

"Those, therefore, who desert the preaching of the Church, call in question the knowledge of the holy Priests, not taking into consideration of how much greater consequence is a religious man, even in a private station, than a blasphemous and impudent sophist. Now, such are all the heretics, and those who imagine that they have hit upon something more beyond the truth, so that by following those things already mentioned, proceeding on their way variously, inharmoniously, and foolishly, not keeping always to the same opinions with regard to the same things, as blind men are led by the blind, they shall deservedly fall into the ditch of ignorance lying in their path, ever seeking and never finding out the truth. It behoves us, therefore, to avoid their doctrines, and to take careful heed lest we suffer any injury from them; but to flee to the Church, and be brought up in her bosom, and be nourished with the Lord’s Scriptures. For the Church has been planted as a garden in this world; therefore says the Spirit of God, 'Thou mayest freely eat from every tree of the garden' that is, Eat ye from every Scripture of the Lord; but ye shall not eat with an uplifted mind, nor touch any heretical discord." - AH, 5, 20, 2

>>110935753
God disagrees with you.
God via Himself. Jesus.
Nobody repents in the Bible more than God.

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>>110936111

Truth is a language that is foreign to your kind

>>110936647
KEK have ever knew that a bunch of Spacecrafts were there during a mass? My grandmother saw...

>>110936582

Nigger, you can't even fucking read.

Go get someone who can read to the following out loud for you.

>>110935901
>>110936297

That was the Iraneus that you quote so much.

>Iraneus - THE APOSTLES DID NOT PASS DOWN ANY HIDDEN WISDOM, JUST THE SCRIPTURES.

>>110936813
Do not tell me you had VISIONS!!!

>>110936918
"Since therefore we have such proofs, it is not necessary to seek the truth among others which it is easy to obtain from the Church; since the Apostles, like a rich man [depositing his money] in a bank, lodged in her hands most copiously all things pertaining to the truth: so that every man, whosoever will, can draw from her the water of life. For she is the entrance to life; all others are thieves and robbers. On this account are we bound to avoid them, but to make choice of the thing pertaining to the Church with the utmost diligence, and to lay hold of the Tradition of the truth. For how stands the case? Suppose there arise a dispute relative to some important question among us, should we not have recourse to the most ancient Churches with which the Apostles held constant intercourse, and learn from them what is certain and clear in regard to the present question? For how should it be if the Apostles themselves had not left us writings? Would it not be necessary, [in that case,] to follow the course of the Tradition which they handed down to those to whom they did commit the Churches?" - AH, 3, 4, 1

Sola scriptura debunked again

>>110935902
>all that idolatry
So when are you going to convert to Christianity, Anon?

>>110886234
I'm studying Mein Kapf and I think I'm turning into a nazi. Hitler's teachings are still incredibly relevant today if you consider that he was a man that lived 2 generations ago. Maybe he wasn't the son of God, but nobody at the time was capable of teaching such compassion and kindness.

What I want to ask you /pol/ is: If I officially become a nazi, which branch of nazism should I adopt? What are the pros and cons of being a nazi or a fascist?

>>110937040
Then you probably shouldn't worship Abrahamic God.

Abrahamic God contradicts himself while knowing the future, and convinces billions of men to ritually mutilate themselves to further their connection to him while then retracting it.

Abrahamic God essentially declares the time of prophets over and direct intervention over then contradicts himself.

Abrahamic God murders the entire world while knowing that he would redeem it through his son... which is himself.

Seriously, why would you follow this?

>>110937118
Except of course Irenaeus never said that. He just said that what the apostles handed down ISNT HIDDEN AND CAN BE SEEN AND PROVEN BY SUCCESSION

>>110937118
300 hundred years passed and the scriptures were written how you can follow that shit full of subversion estoicism european paganism and semitic paganism full of sumerian ritual adaptaions. you totally cucks.

>>110937118
NIGGER CANT YOU EVEN READ

"Those, therefore, who desert the preaching of the Church, call in question the knowledge of the holy Priests, not taking into consideration of how much greater consequence is a religious man, even in a private station, than a blasphemous and impudent sophist. Now, such are all the heretics, and those who imagine that they have hit upon something more beyond the truth, so that by following those things already mentioned, proceeding on their way variously, inharmoniously, and foolishly, not keeping always to the same opinions with regard to the same things, as blind men are led by the blind, they shall deservedly fall into the ditch of ignorance lying in their path, ever seeking and never finding out the truth. It behoves us, therefore, to avoid their doctrines, and to take careful heed lest we suffer any injury from them; but to flee to the Church, and be brought up in her bosom, and be nourished with the Lord’s Scriptures. For the Church has been planted as a garden in this world; therefore says the Spirit of God, 'Thou mayest freely eat from every tree of the garden' that is, Eat ye from every Scripture of the Lord; but ye shall not eat with an uplifted mind, nor touch any heretical discord." - AH, 5, 20, 2

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>>110936582

Quoting yourself... really....

How much of a faggot can you be?

>>110936813
Yoga comes in many forms, it's not just for narcissists. It's the oldest religious practice. I will state again, that those who study yoga come to know the path walked by many spiritually prominent people. Draw your own conclusions on what you find. Don't just swallow the frequently translated, omitted and edited works in that book. The idea that everyone should have the same interpretation of the final product anyway is more evidence of attempts to control the populace depending on who is powerful at the time.

>>110936813
god bless, brother in Christ.

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>>110937394
Yet this is what the early Christians did to polycarp

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The Pagan Catholic Church started going full gnostic by the 12th Century AD.

They even burned a man alive in human sacrifice for repeating what the Bible says that Jesus Christ is the Head of the Church and not the pope.

>Part 1

>>110936813
God is great. Welcome to the family, brother.

>>110936875
Prayer is basically meditation, check out the poses and tell me that Jesus had no clue about the chakras. It's a 'conversation' with the superego.

>>110937712
>cites the actual writings of Irenaeus
>citing myself
PRODDIE LOGIC

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>>110936813
>i am crazy and have visions GOD SPEAKS TO ME!!!

>>110936760

Fuck you

Fuck the old age

>>110937849
Except of course....to you all the early church fathers are heretics

Just ask Irenarus

"Those, therefore, who desert the preaching of the Church, call in question the knowledge of the holy Priests, not taking into consideration of how much greater consequence is a religious man, even in a private station, than a blasphemous and impudent sophist. Now, such are all the heretics, and those who imagine that they have hit upon something more beyond the truth, so that by following those things already mentioned, proceeding on their way variously, inharmoniously, and foolishly, not keeping always to the same opinions with regard to the same things, as blind men are led by the blind, they shall deservedly fall into the ditch of ignorance lying in their path, ever seeking and never finding out the truth. It behoves us, therefore, to avoid their doctrines, and to take careful heed lest we suffer any injury from them; but to flee to the Church, and be brought up in her bosom, and be nourished with the Lord’s Scriptures. For the Church has been planted as a garden in this world; therefore says the Spirit of God, 'Thou mayest freely eat from every tree of the garden' that is, Eat ye from every Scripture of the Lord; but ye shall not eat with an uplifted mind, nor touch any heretical discord." - AH, 5, 20, 2

>>110937417
Since we are in a Christian thread try Irminism or Positive Christianity and the concept of Heliand or Baldur Krist

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>>110937940
>being this unhinged

>>110937536
Because you are making false statements due to your inability to understand God in the first place.

Probably because you have never read the Bible and instead get your bunk info and worldview from the (((History))) channel.

I follow it because I know the truth.

There is an entire website setup for you national socialist queers, go troll there, sodomite.

>>110938079
"Since then these things are manifest to us, and we have looked into the depths of the divine knowledge, we ought to do in order all things which the Master commanded us to perform at appointed times. He commanded us to celebrate sacrifices and services, and that it should not be thoughtlessly or disorderly, but at fixed times and hours. He has Himself fixed by His supreme will the places and persons whom He desires for these celebrations, in order that all things may be done piously according to His good pleasure, and be acceptable to His will. So then those who offer their oblations at the appointed seasons are acceptable and blessed, but they follow the laws of the Master and do not sin. For to the high priest his proper ministrations are allotted, and to the priests the proper place has been appointed, and on Levites their proper services have been imposed. The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity."

Source: St. Clement, bishop of Rome, 80 A.D., to the Corinthians

"Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices."

Source: Letter to the Corinthians, [44,4]

PRODDIE BTFO

>>110938228
PRODDIE SO ASSMAD

>>110937681

Where does it say in what you fucking posted to follow anything but the scriptures?

This only confirms what I said, you fucking liar.

> It behoves us, therefore, to avoid their doctrines, and to take careful heed lest we suffer any injury from them; but to flee to the Church, and be brought up in her bosom, and be nourished WITH THE LORD'S SCRIPTURES.

>SOLA ESCRITURA

Are you fucking dyslexic or something?