Has American politics ever been so hostile /pol/? I'm

>>110873012
It's the most hostile that I've ever seen, but I wasn't alive during Vietnam. I don't think we've quite reached that level yet.

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>>110873012
Could be worse
>but it's definitely worse than it''s been in a long time

>>110873317

this

>>110873012
Let it burn faggot let it all burn down.

>Has American politics ever been so hostile /pol/?
1860

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The left has been in power for decades. They want a one-government system, where they rule. They've caused wars, work with the EU/UN and others to do so. They want to fundamental change the way the world works. These are the same people that pushed "political correctness" and then funded/founded ISIS/others.

Right now they are threatened. Trump won, and most of his administration wants to end the corrupt globalists and expose the giant sex ring (A tool used by globalists to get people to cooperate with them). Doing so would END the left, and the globalist movement. They're threatened by the 2018 elections, where Republicans can win more power and if they do it would guarantee a Trump 2020 re-election. 8 years of republicans would also undo the majority of work they have been doing.

Be clear about one thing; liberals view you as an object, not a human being.

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>>110873012
No, this is new.

This is the first time since the 1960's that the leftist indoctrination is starting to fail. Leftist culture is losing. Their ideals are being questioned or rejected by society completely.

Usually republicans are a bunch of cucks who pander to liberals, even if they win an election. Conservatives just keep bending to leftists every time they get more liberal.

This is the first time we've politically and culturally outright said "Yeah fuck everything liberals believe, we're doing the complete opposite. White Christian culture is the best. Third worlders suck. Build a wall. Islam sucks. LGTB movement sucks. Social programs suck. First black president sucks."

There IS a civil war, happening right now. It's not a physically violent war, but it's a culture war and a war of ideas.

>>110873012
Leftist are really trying hard to get their Shit Pushed In.

>>110873012
This is the 100 day honeymoon period too, things will get crazy when Trump has his first real scandal.

>>110873012
Go look at what Jefferson called his best friend John Adams when they were running against each other.

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I know you all want to freak out like the world is ending just because some anarchists lit a trash can on fire, but the things going on today are actually fairly tame. There literally used to be fist fights on the Senate floor. Yes, elected official Senators fought so fiercely over laws that they would start punching each other. If that wasn't enough, they'd walk into the back yard and have a pistol duel. Today since the floors are video taped they have to put on some level of decorum.

Also if you think these protests in the street are bad, keep in mind it used to be normal for angry mobs to break into a politician's home and tar and feather him. Possibly kill him.

The stuff going on today is pussy shit. We are not in a prelude to civil war.

No rich jewish bankers are going to let anyone do anything stupid.

You fucking libtards got your Obongo.

You conservashits get your Drumpf.

Meanwhile the jewish bankers still get rich and control everything so you're all fucking stupid.

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>>110873012
>Has American politics ever been so hostile /pol/?
It is NOT he conservative right.. it is the liberal left.. they are violent and against anyone with opinions that do not match theirs.

>>110873012
When the left is out of power they fight tooth and nail. You're a little too young to remember 2001 before 9/11. After the attack, it was considered "unamerican" to go against Bush, but they were doing this stuff for a whole 9 months. They continued it when the Iraq war went sour and picked it up alot after the housing crisis. The left has always been feral, because they are by and large animals to begin with.

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>>110873012

Yes, yes it has, it started that way.

>>110873012
>has it ALWAYS been this fucked up /pol/?
No.

Trump is pretty much the first president since JFK that hasn't been under control of the Jews. What you're seeing is Jews literally dumping money to create domestic disturbances similar to what happened in Russia and Germany in the 1910s. Something like 75% of them voted for Hillary, including all the neocons.

>>110873012
America is in full fuck you mode and I'm loving it

>>110873012
I'm almost 30. The Bush years were pretty fucking hostile, but facebook wasn't around back then.

Americans have been divided since the 60's at least, it's just become way more apparent since the last election, this was inevitable.

>>110873387
Damn, what caused such a huge polarization? I'm assuming Obama had something to do with it?

>>110873012
The 60s were more divided than this - there have been a few random shootings, but no groups consistently organizing bombings like the Minutemen or protests going way south like Kent State.

Also keep in mind the kind of media that's shoved in your face every day. Your facebook wall is either Huff Po articles titled "Trump just did THIS to DESTROY American values" or Breitbart articles titled "Leftists Admitting they HATE True Americans." Unfortunately, the internet has created a platform where it's extremely easy for people to only consume media that validates their pre-conceived beliefs which (usually) are not true or half true.

It's a mix of growing social inequality (driven by income and wealth inequality, genuine racism is so rare now discussing race has become a weird proxy for actually talking about class issues) and that people can easily construct an echo chamber where their beliefs are never challenged. Objectively, quality of life and safety have never been better for any society at any point in time, but it's easy to make it appear that things aren't that way.

>>110875089
It was mostly "Lol Bush, what an idiot!", that was in a time where SJW's weren't really a thing and neither was social media.

>>110873012
This is nowhere near the level of hostility that the Black Panthers created. The Black Panthers used to go around raping women(blacks mostly) and set a lot of stereotypes for Black people.

>>110875089
The Bush years weren't nearly as culturally divided. Nearly everyone uniamously hated Bush. Trump is different because he does have half more-or-less of the support of the American people.

People I've known for decades and pretty much grew up are against me now, because I'm pro Trump whereas they have turned into full blown Communist faggots. They actually voted for Ron Paul during 2012 but switched over to Bernie the last election. What I've noticed is that these assholes have also lost at life through their bad decisions so that's where the cultural divide seems to shift from. Those who are so in debt that they need the gov to bail them out and those who are still self-efficient to the point where Trump sounds more to your liking because his policies are undoing the mess that King Nigger exasperated.

>>110873704
This exact same shit happened after Vietnam, dingus. What are you, 15?

>>110876224
Yeah, the Right frothingly hating Obama and wanting to be more and more conservative and the left not thinking Obama is left enough (Obama happened to become more and more right as he held office).

>>110876509
fuck off /leftypol/ retard

>>110873012
We haven't even reached 60's levels of retardation yet

>>110877685
>says something negative about breitbart
>reeeee /leftypol/

You could try responding to what I said, but that'd require effort.

>>110877409

Trump has lower approval ratings and higher disapproval ratings on day 9 than what took Bush over a thousand days to achieve.

Also remember, only 25% of the population voted for him and he lost the popular vote by 3 million. So he's starting off way worse than Bush, but he does have Republican support generally, but his approval rating sinks everyday.

Something to keep in mind with that is only about 25% of the population considers themselves Republicans, and about 29% are Democrats. Republicans are often more likely to vote and get active in politics, so while it seems like he has support of half the country, it's more that he has support of a very outspoken and well represented fourth.

>>110873689
What 2018 election?

>>110877711
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Bush Jr. years were pretty divisive, but nothing like Trump has been. The left's extremism has been increasing for decades though, it's only a matter of time before they start trying to kill people on a large scale.

>>110876224
Yes, Obama has been shitting on everything the right stands for repeatedly. I'm sure it's waaay more polarized now because with Trump's rise to power there were a lot less lukewarm conservatives, being for deportation and being called racist was no longer a huge negative.

>>110878601
The midterms when a lot of senate seats are up for election.

>>110878601
Midterm elections for the house, Senate, and some governors I assume

the right is usually a lot more subtle about their resentment of the political left when it's in power.

The left is usually more vocal and preachy.. that being said, I've seen the left triggered this hard at the end of the bush administration, but where they're at now, 2 weeks in, is ridiculous...

It took them 5 years of Bush become what they were at the anti-war protests (which were just communist/cultural marxist gatherings.)

If they keep this up, I think they're going to blow their load. The public isn't as naive about them as they were in the past. Before the louder they screamed, the more they got. Now people are just used to them whining and preaching and the average person who looks at their political movement objectively thinks they're freaks.

There's no move to reform them either. They're seriously going with the identity politics angle and they're just trying to legitimize every freakshow as a "Civil rights" movement instead.

>>110873012
civil war is imminent

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Supporting this ban on Muslims is not suddenly acceptable just because it's White House policy. It's a racist policy. If you support it, you're a racist. Actually, the fact that it's Trump's policy is just further proof of that.
Don't let this view be normalized. Stop the trolling on my facebook and learn something cave people..

>>110877600
Jimmy Carter was elected after Nam

>>110881048
plenty of nations refuse immigrants and maintain demographic and cultural integrity.. just because you hate your demographics and culture doesn't mean you can impose another onto it because it would make you feel vindicated.

You women need to stop thinking with your ovaries.

>>110876509
>genuine racism is so rare now discussing race has become a weird proxy for actually talking about class issues

Interesting idea! Can you explain?

>>110877600
Didn't where I lived. Not like this stupid shit. There wasn't 24/7 news media helping to stir shit up all the time, though.

No. The dude you replied to is correct. Their shit ideology has peaked and the pendulum is finally beginning to swing back the other way. Thank Fucking God. Has a long way to swing, though. Hope it makes it all the way back to sanity.

>>110873012
Well, there was an actual civil war where actually hundreds of thousands of people died. And then there were the Nixon years.

>>110873012
The first one is unlikely because the army, police, milices and bikers are behind Trump.

The second is far more likely but I fear Trump is not as permissive as Obama.

>>110881048
haha, Ive had two different muslims come up and tell me that electing Trump was the best thing we've ever done for our country. THEY HATE THEIR RADICALIZED COUNTERPARTS AS MUCH AS WE DO

>>110882559
A lot of statistics traditionally described in terms of race (crime, college graduation rate, etc) also work for economic status. Minority groups historically have less means to begin with, so the left focuses on bringing them up by increasing access to things like education for those groups.

Unfortunately, this leaves out poor whites who are in just as bad a situation as poor blacks, native americans, etc. While the left has good intentions in supporting programs that increase access to education for people of color and women, they leave out a huge demographic of people who also need that help, but are ignored because of the color of their skin.

It's a weird choice, but makes sense if you consider the history of the US. Here, being poor is an individuals fault (when really the likelihood of wealth has more to do with family history than anything). The left substituted race and gender, things that nobody can say are the fault of anything but genetics, to try to assist the poor.

This is why there was such a strong overlap between Bernie and Trump supporters - Bernie ditched traditional race-based rhetoric and attacked the problem at its source: class. Trump's entire campaign was sticking it to wealthy elites and bringing jobs back to disenfranchised classes. They were giving the same message, just presenting very different means to achieve the same goal.

>>110873012
U.S. Politics is my new favourite TV show.

And the nice part of it is that it's actually a monumental episode of history.

>>110873012
I'm an oldfag. I've been watching politics since Carter. The hostility came close at times, it's been a cycle - Bush gets elected, the left lose their minds, Clinton gets in, the right loses their minds, etc.

But no, I don't remember anything close to this. Even the Gulf War protests weren't this bad.

But, there was never so much at stake, as right now. This is the death throes of Globalism. This is fighting for their lives - and they're losing. They thought they had everyone brainwashed enough to accept it, but they were sadly and pathetically mistaken.

I honestly think we're entering a new Victorian Age. The pendulum is overdue to swing back, and it's got a lot of arc to cover. The excess and degeneracy of the 60's hit it's extreme, and it's all downhill from here, for them.

I honestly think that Hillary failing to win will be THE defining moment of this century, it's the moment that changed everything.

A new Victorian Age will be good, and bad - but it will be better than the Brave New World Hillary threatened.

>>110874086
Trump is going to make them even richer. It's what we wanted. /pol/ is a pro big bank board

>>110874281
No what we've been doing is dumping our money into financial stocks because trump is deregulating banks and cutting taxes so we can stop forking so much over to stupid lazy people.

>>110877600
I was alive when the Vietnam war ended, I remember watching the announcement on tv and asking my parents what it meant. I had no concept of war being real, I was too young, and i didn't know we were fighting a real war at the time.

In the years after it, it was nothing like it is now.

>>110887288
This. Well said, fellow oldfag.

>>110873012
I remember this shit like a re-run. SDS, Weathermen. Nothing new. Some people hated Johnson, Nixon. Bombed shit, kidnapped heiresses,killed cops. Then they grew up and became politicians.

>>110877711
The civil rights clashes of the 50's and 60's were probably the closest thing to what we're seeing. Cities burned back then. All we have now is trash cans burning.

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>>110873012
There were a lot of protests when George W. Bush was president. First it was the "not my president" chants because of Florida and Al Gore getting a bigger popular vote. Then it was the anti-war protests. The left has become more violent during Obama's tenure, though. The protests were really annoying with Bush but the chimpouts didn't start happening until Obama got elected.

>>110881048
Islam isn't a race. Banning Islam can't by definition be racist.

And fuck you, muslim asslicker. Islam is a death cult.

>>110887441
The rich are going to get richer no matter who's elected, stupid. They're playing a game you have no clue about, if you think elections matter to them. They got rich under Reagan, Clinton, both Bushes, and under Obama - and they'll get rich under Trump.

>>110878593
>(((polls)))

>>110877664
>Obama dindu nuffin!
Your damage control is just pathetic at this point obot shill.

>>110888206
This. Shitlibs were just an annoyingly vocal sideshow during the Dubya Years.

>>110887288
>I honestly think that Hillary failing to win will be THE defining moment of this century, it's the moment that changed everything.
this.
The entire world was headed to a trajectory that would've been fatal for whites. Oh boy how the times have changed.

>>110873012

Southeast D.C. went up in smoke for MLK. Took decades to restore.

Damned nice Victorian townhouses too, all crackwhore hangouts thanks to the chimpout.

We're one firecracker away from that.

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>>110873012
Your political union has always been rough deal

Back in the earlier days legislators got into fist fights,beat each other with canes and, you know, there was an actual civil war..

>>110888311
dont agree with him but its a de-facto ban on arabs since most arabs are muslim

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>>110877600
Yes dumbass, THIS IS A CONTINUATION AND ESCALATION OF THAT SAME CULTURE WAR

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The 1970s were actually a very good precursor to what is starting to happen today. There were bonafide leftist terrorist organisations just causing absolute havoc up until the early 80s. Presidential assassination attempts, killing congressman, bombing sprees

>>110890371
Exactly. The fight stopped for a while, but it is heating up again, this time in a more fractured and less white union.
Read this article and get fucking redpilled on it, leftists have always been insanely violent

https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/

I've heard something from a yank on here before that there were 30 odd executives in the Obama administration and only 6 in Trump's. Not sure executive is the right word, but could someone please clarify? I assume they meant CEO/bank figureheads etc

Libs were pretty butthurt about Bush and the Iraq war. But definitely not to this degree.

>>110877409
It's really is this. Every SJW type I've met was a fuck up loser in life. Shitty job, drug addicted, degerate faggots.

>>110890273
Yes, from arab countries. Odd, that. Funny how Norwegian Muslims aren't banned.

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>>110873012
>Has American politics ever been so hostile /pol/?
A good portion of america woke up. Apparently Voting for a Black or a Woman is not the only reason for voting. I think people looked at other countries and their status and asked themselves if they wanted that.

This is not normal per se, but to be fair, the last 12+ years have not been transparent. There was a mass brainwashing, and you are seeing the effects of the brainwashing when they don't get their way. Blame whoever you want, but feel free to present these dissenters with logic and they will screech and call you a racist.

Take the Yuri Pill. Tell me that it is not happening now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5It1zarINv0

If Trump does what he said he would, and I think he will....what you are seeing is the terror and fear of an animal dying.

>>110887288
Totally this. It's as if people are slowly forgetting that this is about Globalism, and thinking this is about Left vs Right. Globalists have had this planned for DECADES, in tight collusion, across Europe, America, AUS, NZ, all over. They have dug their fingers deep into the control of global monetary systems, corporations, power structures, all to pull off the New World Order, and it is collapsing in front of their eyes. It's an amazing time to be alive and witness this. And it's the most intense political time I've witnessed--I'm not young.

>>110876224
There's a generational shift pattern and we should have started the fourth turning sometime within the last 4-8 years. But Generation Z (yklon B) are quite open to race and homosexuality despite their conservatism.

We are seeing a full throttle backlash and Obama/ socialism attempting to hold it back has only resulted in bottling up the intergenerational pressure even more.

>>110873012

I'm 30 and this is really bad. Also there is an energy or feeling in my city, like everyone is just on edge. I see people freak out daily, and these are not bums or degenerates, it's suit and tie and normal people. The facade seems to be cracking.

>>110873012
nope, Trump pretty much ruined politics by making it acceptable to say mean things and now we're gonna have a second holocaust :(

>>110878601
Midterm elections.

It's actually fairly likely that there will be a gop supermajority. Which means Trump could alter the constitution.

>>110887288
I honestly think that if Donald Trump was the last chance the usa had to prevent the right wind death squads.

There would have been a mass beta uprising within the next 20 years if things had kept going down the same path.

>>110873317
Vietnam protests were actually protests and for the most part, peaceful. They had a lot more numbers then what we are seeing now, but not the damage. If the shit going on now reaches the numbers they were back then, we should really start worrying. I don't see it happening though since most of these people are being paid to do it.

>>110876224
I think it's that due to our current system, Republican and Democratic candidates cannot win unless they purposely try to polarize the vote. Trump one because he forced some seemingly extreme Right winged views whereas Clinton came off as too moderate. Next election democrats will probably try to come off as even more extreme, and so will republicans. It's the only way to win an election anymore.

>>110873012
Take some time out of your day. Find a quiet spot, close your eyes and repeat after me: "We won. I won. I am a winner. I am a winner." Enlightenment will come.

>>110873012
If Bannon and Trump manage to pull this off they will be studied 1,000 years from now in rural Canadian public schools.

>>110895107
you mean the rural space colonies

>>110894912
thanks bro, I needed this.

>>110894535
They started peaceful, but the hippies were infiltrated by Marxists and Black Power movements. They radicalized, and it got violent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Vietnam_War

Read the timeline. As it goes on, it gets more and more violent.

>>110877409

All of my liberal friends recieve benefits from the government. All of them have divorced parents, most of them have had severe trauma's in their youth.

Every person I know that works full-time and has a spine is against all of this libshit.

>>110873417
Shut up, crypto state 58

>>110873012
Yes, it goes in cycles. The last peak was in the 70s because of the War in Vietnam. The cycle is loosely based on the performance of the economy.

>>110895810
Even without that it probably would've grown more violent. Things usually do over time as people become more desperate for what they want.

What we have right now is a handful of people getting paid to stir up people into mobs. Government needs to deal with these sources and they will stop.

>>110874058
Escalation has been constant, been a lot more going on than trash cans being set on fire. But I hope you're right and it stops.

>>110873012
Meh im 34 my alarm goes off at 2:45 am for work. I treat people well and then get home and see people saying im an evil racist bigot for being a white male. So what you want to do Wyatt? Kill em all Doc.

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>>110873012
batemans creator says to stop the faggotry.

>>110873317

We're past Vietnam.

Media hostility has never been higher and more poisonous.

It's really amazing to me how this shit all disapeared in the 80s and 90s yet somehow makes a resurgence and is pro-Muslim after 9/11.

The power of Jewish brainwashing.

>>110896699
It was also a lot of influence from the civil rights clashes, too - some speculate that MLK was killed because he was against the protests, and he was the one guy who could have shut it down. I don't wholly discount that idea.

There are defintite parallels - the BLM riots were reminscient of the Watts riots. The Trump protests are similar to the sit ins and Vietman protests. But back then, the media wasn't part of the protest, and society at large was shocked and offended and angry about it - we've been brainwashed to accept the Trump Tantrums as normal.

>>110891335
Love this talk.

>>110873012
I remember when bush jr was elected it was pretty bad, but the internet wasn't set up to amplify the loud minority like it is today

Looks like Trump is going against the powers that be. They're throwing everything they have at him.

Everyone getting a little too political. I don't like it. The Superbowl ads are political this year. were gonna end up like Europe.

>>110873012
No.
Powerful people are buying a tantrum.
Trump is standing against our evil overlords.
He needs your support.

trump were with you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY8jaGs7xJ0

>>110897844
Let them. The power of his office is enormous. That's one thing about Obama - he abused some of his power, but he was too chickenshit to dive in fully.

Trump has all the power now. And he's gonna use it. No career politician would have the balls or spine to pull the level like Trump is.

This is just the start. Once laws start making their way through Congress and onto his desk, that's when the hammer is coming down on their heads.

My gut feeling is Trump is going to stun the world senseless with his leadership. They'll have no choice but to follow.

>>110876509

This guy is a fucking grown-up and he gets it

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQMzJ5Z7zBw

>>110874281
>t. A jackass who has never looked at staff appointments.
JFK had 86 of 116 state department hires filled with CFR members. Stay retarded.

>>110873012
Pretty sure the civil war was hostile politics