Why did the Nordic countries become socialist? I understand

>>106653277
Because it actually works as long as you don't have third world corrupt monkeys running it like in Venezuela and the rest of South America. There is a reason why we are always the envy of the world

>>106653277
because (((education))) and (((universities)))

Nordic countries aren't socialist.
Read more here and educate yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model

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>>106653277
Low population and no shitskins when the Nordic Model set in.
It's all going to hell, of course like any socialist country eventually will.

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>>106653277
They aren't socialist. They're leftist leaning mixed economies, commonly referred to as social democrats.

And you are right, their greatest period of growth was experienced under the system of folkhemmet/social corporatism, AKA the economic system that fascists espoused, but without the authoritarianism and nationalism. Granted, if they did have more nationalism and authoritarianism, they wouldn't be dealing with a migrant crisis today, now would they?

>>106653928
>envy
Maybe 10 years ago.

>>106654788
surprisingly accurate for an american post

Welfare capitalism isn't socialism.

If it was then the U.S would be the largest socialist state on the planet given that Social Security is worth 1.2 trillion dollars.

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>>106653277
The much celebrated nordic brand of "Democratic Socialism" and Folkhemstaken was built by Per Albin Hanson who directly copied many NSPAD policies, especially Folkgemenskapstanken. Then there is finally the fact that Nazi national Socalism, nordic natsoc, and social democracy all draw significantly from the ideas of Rudolf Kjellen who first coined the term National Socialism.


tl;dr
WE WUZ THE ORIGINAL NAZIS AND SHIET

>>106653277
Why is Denmark's flag bigger than the others?

>>106655431
It was the first one and apparently given to them by God himself

>>106655431
To compensate for their diny digs

>>106653277
>finlan
>nordic
que

>>106654788
It was nationalistic with a well developed system for eugenics and overall racial health. Our neutral non-intervetion policy during ww2 was nationalistic as fuck. The current self flagellating system was set in place during mainly the 70s and since then our success has diminished.

>>106653277
The welfare system they implanted after the 50's can work as long as you have a high-iq homegeneous population. Plus, their population is quite small, that also helps a lot.

Bigger and and more populous countries with a more diverse ethnic groups such as the USA, that wouldn't work, it would only make the low-iq population get more benefits are breed at a higher rate.
In a 3rd world multirracial country like Brazil, that would be chaotic in the long term. It'd create generations of people abusing the welfare state and contributing nothing to the development of the country, whereas productive citizens are overtaxed and have few children as the result of the high cost of life. A free-market economy is much better for low iq people.

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>>106655092
You can even see in this graph how the 70's is the exact decade where the economy stops growing at a rapid pace and stagnates.

>>106655757
>To compensate for their diny digs
lol coming from Sweden.

>>106653928
>Because it actually works
No it doesn't.
Read Human Action from Mises.

>>106655286
>>implying it isn't

>>106653928
They actually had very free markets but a large welfare state

>>106657866
>fucking spain telling sweden the nordic model doesn't work

This is grade A comedy right here. Fix your own shit before trying to sound like you know something

>>106658431
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4107126/Disturbing-moment-bull-MOUNTS-female-bullfighter-knocking-ground-middle-fight.html

BULLED

>>106658431
Your countries are in shitskin free fall. Get fucked, faggot

>Muh 57%
We were always shit

>>106658676
>female dwarf bullfighter
What the fuck.

Compassion and working for the common good are values that work in homogenous societies like nordic nations and japan. They worked until the last decade when shitskins became leeches on the system and the concept keeled over. No matter how much money you throw at shitskins they will still not improve.

>>106658924
True

This has nothing to do with our economical model, though. It's the traitorous politicians that are to blame. We'll get them sooner or later, don't you worry. People are pissed off like I've never seen before

>>106653277

Because otherwise their population would flee to warmer places.

In Finland, alcoholics have their pension.

>>106653277
Socialism only works if your country is white enough, and even then it has to be fairly mild, because socialism is trash

>>106658431
It works in certain homogeneous societies, like Nordic countries. Add globalism to the mix and it's done. Socialism is in it's death throes, with the current trends it won't be sustainable even in Nordic countries.

>>106659872
Nordic have never nor never will we be socialists

>>106653277

Scandinavia is just a great experiment for the following United Earth Federation just like the other countries.

>>106655852
They are our rightful clay you stupid burger

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>>106655852
You're mixing up Nordic and Scandinavian. No, they are not the same thing.

>>106660594
i will single handedly conquer that land one-handed

>>106660284
>Nordic have never nor never will we be socialists

Explain

I was going to say "that's retarded" but decided to be polite

>>106653277

tfw the nordic way is too intelligent for the rest of the world to understnad.

I don't know why but icelands flag looks the best.

>>106660989
your people are not even capable of waking up on time

>>106661109
Here.

Our current primeminister explains it just fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgrJnXZ_WGo

>>106661455
my dreams are generally way more beautiful than reality

>>106658423
>this x10

>>106661829
>1 hour

I can't watch that right now. Can you summarise?

>>106653277
mostly white.

also their socialism is much different than everyone elses.

its basically just high taxes and thats it.

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>>106661238
that's because it is

>>106655308
>golden cross with blue background
>golden sun blue sky
>golden hair blue eyes
You have the potential to become one of the greatest nationalistic countries in the world but Jews think that's a no-no so they think of the sickest most twisted way to put a stop to it. Doing exactly the opposite of what you want

Nordic countries and really all other European nations with expansive welfare programs also don't have to worry about maintaining a military or spending on defense. France and the UK have tactical nukes and everyone is already protected by the US through NATO.

>>106661238
Well blue and white are the best colors.
Kinda wanna question the commie-red there, but to each their own.

>>106662335
yea, it was right after Bernie told the whole world that Scandinavia are socialists.
Our PM denies that in total, and argue that we've a market based economy, not a socialist

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>>106653277
Nordic people are more collectivist, egalitarian and have high social trust. They needed that to survive in their climate and that was at the haert of their culture. Hell, after thousands of years it may even be a bit genetic. All egalitarian doctrines are popular in the nordics, that's why they adopted protestantism and all forms of socialism with such fervor. Worked well for homogenous nordic countries. Infected with cultural marxist memes the nordic mind tries to make all genders/fags completely equal and make somalis completely equal with Swedes. Its like a deadly malfunction of an otherwise adaptive mechanism.

>>106662711
>blue and white just like pissrael

>>106653928
It really doesn't. We're hemorrhaging more and more money the more and more social programs (((they))) implement

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>>106653277
>leaving out Åland's flag

>>106662480
Hmm.
So if Trump thinks it's done protecting Japan, what about Europe? Could they defend themselves from China and Russia if we train them? They're having enough trouble with the Middle East as it is.
Why did they stop grinding just because we have a higher power level?
Europe and Japan are very low level

>>106662893
Conversely, red and yellow are by far the worst colors.

>>10666098
>Russia tried to conquer saunaland for hundreds of years.

Yeah gl hf you medinog.

>>106653277
Because they are retards

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>>106663071
>your id

WI !! THE EMU BROTHAS !!!

>>106663210
>Arms of Satan
Yeah, I'm not 15

>>106663210
>>106663210
frogs are satan? is there anything christians don't call satan?

>>106653928
no you are not, compared to places like the US, Australia or Canada you are 2nd world at best. Take it from someone who's been to the US, Australia and Sweden.

Only people who 'envy' you, are Americans who never been east of Idaho

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>>106663474
explain
>>106663644
most memes are created by joox

Homogenous, relatively small populations. Nordic countries make socialism work for their own citizens, but problems have arisen because they're extending a hand to the shitskin refugees now as well.

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Imagine the world we could be living in if poor people where simply left to die.

All that wellfare wasted money put on space programs.

>>106662715
While that is true, we do have a lot of socialist elements in our economic model. You could say that we have the best of both worlds

Before the subhumans and globalist politicians came and shat all over it of course

>>106662728
Slavs adopted communism, you have no right to criticize

>>106662728
wow, polbro studied his archnemesis

>>106664023
most shitskins should die, many whites are poor becuz of joox giving the welfare to apes

>>106664023
>Poor people
No, you dumb fuck. In order for someone to be rich, someone else needs to be poor.
You need to kill non-contributing members. Whether they're poor or rich has nothing to do with it.

WRONG.

>>106662936
Yes because (((they))) started inviting third world retards who can neither read or write and wont contribute anything to the state except throwing rocks at police cars. Notice how it started crumbling after the refugee crisis. Something is fishy here

>>106664063

Russians did and then they forced it on everyone else they occupied.

>>106653277

Nordic countries are welfare states, which is not the same as a socialist state.

We are a market economy.

>>106658423
I'm surprised its an american who gets the difference between socialism (all means of production in public hand, death of innovation ) and spendning tax money on improving human ressources (healt, education etc.)

This of course still comes at the cost of high taxation of private companies, but mostly citizens income.

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>>106653928
>socialism works
sure it does mohammed

>>106664823
The only reason why our socialism in nordic countries was more succesful than anticipated was because most of us didn't use the welfare.

Country can afford to give even 100 000 € a month to neets cash in unemployment benefits as long you've only got like 1 dude that's ever unemployed at any given time.

Naturally, that is how it should work.
Only a small fraction of people ever should be using the safety nets, because the moment that number starts to bloat, the problem is no longer just bad policies, but rather the fact that your society has been infected with some sort of disease that needs to be dealt quickly.

>>106658423
>>106665290
All I want for Christmas is for governments booze monopoly to die

>>106665760
We all do

>>106662956

The US/NATO relationship is a lot like a parent who has a kid that lives with them and works a token part-time job for money to spend on weed and video games and does occasional half-assed chores to avoid parental nagging.

>>106653277
Cuckoldry

>>106662480
80% of finnish men are conscripts, might sound weird but atleast we are not allied with roaches.

>>106662956
But France and Britain have nukes. Thats always an important argument.
Also one of the reasons so many European countries are in the NATO is that they are under the american nuclear skirm. This also benefits the nuclear powers interests because it makes getting your own nukes less attractive, preventing the world from becoming a nuclear tinder box.

In other words; Trumps statement Japan and South Korea should be able to get nukes is consistent, if he wants to cut american presence there without giving up room to China.

>>106653277
The Nordic countries have always been relatively rich per capita because of the population itself.

We became social-democratic (huge difference) because most people here believe in equality and equal opportunity. It's probably a cultural thing.

>>106653928
Social democracy without sub-humans > Capitalism with and without sub-humans.

Just ignore retarded lolbertarians that think un-regulated Capitalism is somehow better.

>>106664023
And who will work for you then? you retrard, get the fuck out of my thread

>>106667398

But would you share that with foreigners? You probably believe that because you never had to face people immigrating to your countries and reaping what you sowed.

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>>106664063
I wasn't criticizing I just noticed they were always prone to collectivist and egalitarian mindset propably due to climate. They just always like such ideas. Worked well until cultural marxism in the 1970s. Look at Swedish diaspora everywhere, they are acting all the same. In Minnesota they have small tidy egalitarian hard working communities, vote for max welfare and import Somalis.

>>106668277
Of course we shouldn't, it's our only flaw

>>106662361
Actually not too much higher than the EU average. Our maximum tax rates are probably higher, but not the average.

And it's more than high taxes, it's the government running almost all of the schools, hospitals, kindergardens etc. And owning many of the largest companies. They used to build housing too, which was good as it kept prices down.

>>106662480
Finland has it's own Defense Forces and has nothing to do with NATO, besides some joint military exercises, and training some NATO personnel in arctic warfare (I personally was an assistant instructor to some Americans during my service).

Ofcourse, Finlands national defense is not based on outright winning a Total War, but on forcing the enemy to achieve a pyrrhic victory at best, all our military tactics are aimed towards this purpose, thus making invading Finland unattractive and strategically not a smart move. That's the point Americans don't understand and thus assume Finland must be protected by NATO; We don't aim to beat you. We aim to kill as many of you as we can.

Sadly, some international treaties we've been forced into thanks to EU has greatly diminished our ability to do it. For example. anti-personnel mines are cheap and effective; thanks to some treaty, we had to get rid of them.

>>106653277
Because europe belongs to the nords.

>>106668277
No? Why would I.

>>106668861
>For example. anti-personnel mines are cheap and effective; thanks to some treaty, we had to get rid of them
>get rid of them

Yes, we completely incinerated all of them. There is no possible way to redeploy them when war starts. We are good goys

>>106668769
They can fucking shove the alcohol monopoly up their asses though

>>106663772
I d rather live in norway 10 years ago than in any of the countries you listed .

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>>106667398
>equal opportunity
If you want equal opportunity, you implement a free market. If you want equal outcome, you implement a welfare state. You forfeit the benefits and effectiveness of a free market once you start interfering with the direction of the profit.

It's not like your "social democracy" shit even works, though. The more regulations you place on a market, the larger the impoverished population.

>>106653928
>envy of the world

i wish i lived in the rape capital of the world, in a country projected to be 3rd world by 2031. futures looking bright for a bbc slut like you sven

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>>106667398
>The Nordic countries have always been relatively rich per capita because of the population itself.

Lel no, in the middle ages and before scandinavia was poor and it was very difficult to survive and not die of hunger and cold. It was a combination of climate and modern farming/industry not being invented yet. Hence the collectivism ( whole community, often quite isolated, worked for survival) and egalitarianism ( if you dont share you are selfish, others may starve and even the wealthy were not much richer compared to others). The Jante laws didnt come up by chance. And I am not some lolbertarian criticizing the nordics I just point it out.

>>106668294
thats a funny looking dog

>>106667957
robots, returd

>>106653928
>Socialism works in Europe
No, not really

High taxes everywhere. So bad that no one has kids anymore.

Their governments have been slowly encroaching their rights for ages. In France, it's illegal, without a court order, to get a paternity test.

Not to mention we (the US) pays for their defense bills, so they can spend more money on themselves and not be broke.

>>106669287
That's what a woman president will get ya.
If we were invaded, we'd probably deploy IED's, but actually destroying the mines was such a dumb fucking move when you could just have buried them.

>>106669353
Home brewing should be completely legal for your own use. I think we are going to allow selling directly from your farm (registered), which I am in favour of for the cultural and traditional aspect of it.

I don't mind the government having monopoly on selling it commercially.

>>106669626
Lolbertarian logic, I said I would ignore that, because I know where it will end (the lolbertarian religiously throwing false lolbertarian propaganda). Why the fuck have we more equal opportunity than most of the world, when we have a less free market than the rest of the world?

>>106669744
Always as in modern times obviously. Denmark and southern-Sweden have actually been quite rich though.

>>106669961
Sweden had like 1,90 birth rate even before all the arabs. We were fine. High taxes are fine too if you dont have to pay for education, healthcare etc. But it started crumbling when we invited too many people that doesnt contribute, only steal from our welfare state. USA would never be able to uphold a welfare state, too many parasites.

>>106669097

Thank God. I mean you struggled throughout centuries to establish a good country to live. After adopting different social-economical strategies throughout decades, your people managed to thrive.

Stay strong, Norwegian Sven.

>>106669893
If there are robots, there are no poors.
siestaman

>>106668861

I really wish that more European countries would adopt the Swiss or Finnish model of defense rather than relying on NATO or nukes from neighboring countries.

>>106669961
But the neo-liberal/globalist governments we have now is not examples of "socialism".

And it's a lot cheaper to have kids here than in the US, so I don't get your point.

Norway is 0,1 behind the US, Iceland is 0,1 in front of the US.

And you are not even 60% white. Dare you look up the fertility rates of white Americans? My guess it's lower than all of the Nordic countries.

>>106653277
They are not socialist.

They are capitalist free market economies that use the money they save from having America pay for their defense, into gibs and social programs.

If the USA wasn't subsiding their lifestyle they'd go bankrupt.

>>106670717
Sven is a Swedish name

"Svein" is a Norwegian variant, but not common like Sven is in Sweden.

Our "Average Joe" is "Ola Nordmann".

>>106664650
>In order for someone to be rich, someone else needs to be poor.

Wealth is relative.

>a rich person has $1000
>a poor person has $100
and
>a rich person has $100000
>a poor person has $10000
in both scenarios the rich person is more wealthy than the poor person.
This doesn't necessarily mean that the poor person is "poor" so to say.

>>106671198
fuck off, I dont want your shitty opinnion.

>>106653928
Socialism never works, it just degenerates at different rates. Swedes are very loyal to the state etc so we can sustain a socialist state much longer than most other countries. But the final form of socialism is always the same.

>>106671198
No, we have regulated Capitalist economies, where the government control most/many of the large industries and natural resources, and social services like education and health care.

In no way are the USA subsiding our lifestyle. Who do you think we are buying our military equipment from? They are earning on us, at least Norway and Denmark. Sweden have their own military industry.

>>106671426
It's relative to the resources available, of course.

If there are 2 people and 100 apples. In order for one of them to have 80 apples (be rich), the other one needs to only have 20 apples (be poor).

>>106671455
Now you are talking about the cultural aspects of it.

But Socialism only degenerate when taken over by globalists.

>>106653277
High trust homogeneous white societies

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>>106653928
>rest of South America.
You are lucky we exist at all.
Otherwise all the shitskins immigrating here would be going there. Sweden is already full of Chileans IIRC.

When we collapse from the weight of illegal immigration you will get your wish and we will become third world monkeys for real, then you won't be so smug because you will start getting Bolivians and the real third world trash from deep South America.

We are Gandalf holding the Balrog so you can survive.

>>106670238
>when you could just have buried them.

Wait wait wait

We didn't? Surely our government isn't that fucking stupid. I know we announced they were destroyed but come on now. We're the guys who hid weapon caches all over finland after the second world war just in case

I'm confident that they'll turn up when we need them

>>106653277
Swedish welfare is built with socialism. We started out as a potato-republic with inefficient industry, drunk workers and low level of education. And by some smart implemented social program we got sober workers making a more efficient work-force.
Socialized child care released the women to participate in the work force, making us more productive. It is just lately we are falling behind, and that is because the United States is broke and doesn't buy, and Communist China is making the shit the US still is buying anyway.

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>>106671897
yeah norway and sweden are rich because argentina exist to prevent inmigration lel
sure
go talk retarded shit somewhere else

>>106671455
>>106671885
The norweigan is right. It wouldn't be bad if we had leaders and politicans that actually were loyal to its people *cough national socialism cough*. They used our generousity and stupidity and turned it into shit.

>>106671719
>regulated Capitalist economies
All Scandinavian countries rank in the top 30 spots of the Heritage Foundation Index of Economic Freedom. You are free market capitalist economies.

>where the government control most/many of the large industries and natural resources
Even in oil-rich Norway Statoil is a half-private publically traded company that issues stock. I did my homework.

>They are earning on us, at least Norway and Denmark. Sweden have their own military industry.
Neither country spends more than 2% of GDP on the military like the real countries without military protection do.

>>106671961
Well if they were hidden in some secret caches, that would be a state secret and I haven't got a clue.

The official story is, we destroyed them. You know how anal Finns are about following contracts and treaties, I have no reason to believe we didn't.

>>106672341
And it's extreme too you know. Here the alternative is between "Labour Party" that is slightly neo-liberal that will have to cooperate wit ha suicidal party on immigration (SV) and pure Neo-Liberals that are strict on immigration.

We are lost desu, and not because of social democracy or socialism

homogeneity and insulation

>>106672308
That's not what I said you stupid monkey. Learn proper English and try again.

>>106658423
This is objectively the best way to organize a high-trust, high IQ, homogeneous society.

Good job ruining it by importing shitskins you absolute fools.

>>106654946
riiiight....

>>106672528
>You know how anal Finns are about following contracts and treaties, I have no reason to believe we didn't.

Yes, seems like the most likely outcome

>>106671893
This. Sadly, it doesn't work even in an ethno-states.

>>106672715
muh inglish lel

>>106671799
20 apples is a lot. I couldn't eat that many even if I tried

>>106672436
A regulated economy doesn't mean less economic freedom as in prevented from competing freely.

Statoil is 67(70)% governmental owned and 100% controlled by the government.
http://www.statoil.com/no/investorcentre/share/shareholders/top20/pages/default.aspx

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditure_per_capita

Both Denmark and Norway in top 15.

You don't have a clue, and there is no point debating with me as I know Norway hundred times better than you. Escape to some Lolbertarian forum and cry.

They do nazism in reverse way.

>>106671893
what does it have to do with the fact that they're mainly white societies?

>>106653277
Its not socialist per see, i hate when commies glorify us, we got huge resources compared to population it would be down right jewish not to have a welfare state.

Still a free market.

>>106673288
Ok, but then a third guy comes a long who didn't help gather the apples.
We are in a welfare state, so the poor guy gives him 5 apples and the rich guy gives him 10.
So we have:
Rich guy with 70 apples (helped gather apples)
Poor guy with 15 apples (helped gather apples)
Welfare leech with 15 apples (didn't help gather apples)

What happens for the next patch of apples if you kill the poor people? Well, rich guy will have 50 apples and everyone else is dead.
What happens if you just kill the welfare leech? Rich guy will have 80 apples, and poor guy will have 20 apples.

Ergo: Killing everyone just because they are poor hurt everyone, even the rich people.
Killing the welfare leech helped everyone else but the welfare leech.

It is state capitalism, lads! Lots of millionaires in Norway. We have taken the boring, but safe and prosperous way.

>>106673904
Not only huge resources (Norway have way less oil than say Saudi-Arabia and maybe even Russia per capita) - but a healthy population for now, genetically and culturally.

>>106665663

Arbeit Macht Frei

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It sure as hell looks that way to me. He and all those involved tried to overthrow our own govt through premeditated acts of sabotage and propaganda.
Thoughts?

>>106675073
>Thoughts?
Personally, I prefer soldiers who didn't get captured.

>>106655431
The nordic man is superior to all other races. Among them, the Dane is the greatest.

>>106668970
this

>>106674264
What if we force the leech to gather a minimum of 33 apples or he gets killed like in your example. This would give him a one last chance to do his part

>>106670699
thats barely 2 sons per wymen, probably many childless sluts while there are some women that have 3 children

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>tfw out of apples

>>106675541
Then he would be contributing, he would not be a welfare leech but one of the poor people.

>>106675767
Isn't that a preferable outcome to losing an able worker?

>>106675073
Thoughts on what?

>>106654946
this.

>>106674264
you can always have robots to do the physical work, no need for niggers

>>106676046
Ofcourse it is.
How are you gonna force the leech to gather the apples though, on gunpoint?

>>106676175
Believe it or not it works. But easier solution is cutting welfare for people who don't want to work.

>>106676060
Goddamnit Spain. The apples are a metaphor.

>>106674264
You forgot the fourth guy, the Government guy who created the welfare state.
He will also receive fifteen apples, ten from the Rich guy, five from the Poor guy.
But because everybody is entitled to at least fifteen apples a day, he takes another five apples from the Rich guy and gives it to the Poor guy

Now the Poor guy doesn't feel like gathering apples anymore creating another welfare leech.

There now are only 80 apples in the circulation. 45 going in the way of the Government guy, and the two welfare leeches and the Rich guy only receiving 40 apples from his own harvest.

It's just tribalism, we dont want to see One of our own suffer so we help. We then expect that person will turn around out of honor and duty. At last this was the idea before the immigrants

>>106676288
jajaja

>tfw live a pretty good life
>tfw you will never legally own a SBR and join a tard militia

This is the only thing I envy about America

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>>106663772

Australia used to be called the lucky country - work was plentiful and we produced more innovation and advancement to the world in every field imaginable per capita than anyone on Earth. Then we got 30 years of globalist cock sucking politicians.

Australia was and is being bled dry by the mining firms and one poly tried to take back Australia's natural resources from the foreign interest groups. Our first and last dismissal of government by the Governor General. It was also the last politician we had until 2007 who held any Nationalistic views at all. Sure he cozied up to the abos and was a socialist retard but he was a socialist retard who despite removing the white Australia policy enforced a strict first world immigration policy.

It was the so called conservatives that stuck democracy in the back and directly helped to have Whitlam dismissed that began the great importation of Arabs and other shitskins. It was the sellout right that heralded in the globalist meme here. The left unable to deal with this sold their souls to the Jewish left and are all but indistinguishable from communists now.

Australia used to have self regard. We used to be a hard working, law abiding prosperous white country. We took in relatively few immigrants in short bursts from countries we knew we could force assimilation on the people. Constantinos became Con - Giuseppe became Joey - A hungar immigrant from the 50s became one of the strongest voices and supporters of Soccer in this country and bleeds green and gold. Now Ahmed and Mustafa from Afghanistan do not speak English despite coming here 15-20 years ago - Mumba came here as a poor child migrant and immediately started a street gang because he saw 0 competition -

>>106676517
Scandis with guns would be god tier

>>106676288
says the yellowest country on the planet

>>106676175
I had a lengthy response ready but this guy>>106676252 went straight to the point. Basically, if you don't work, you're out on the street

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Like the other swede here mentioned. Imagine a WORLD with only scandinavians (and finns). Just imagine how BEAUTIFUL and PEACEFUL that shit would be. No niggers rioting, everyone is friendly and generous, everyone contributes. Comfiest shit in the world. Kill me lads, it will never happen.

>>106676299
Sure, but the point was to simplify the argument, not to create an analogy of every tendril of the welfare government in terms of an apple farm.

>>106676812
You can get AR's in Norway, but the barrel can't be shorter than 16". Also have to be 21, and been an active shooter for at least half a year.

Easier to get hunting rifles tho.

>>106677247
you have plenty of joox up there

>>106677247
Unironically convinced that it would be utopia

>>106677140
Yes, that was my original point.
I was arguing against the Argentinian who was saying "If they don't have enough apples, kill them."

>>106677257
But I like going deeper. Also, now that the welfare leeches outnumber the work force, good luck voting for less welfare :o)

>>106677328
Noice
Should be a right though

>>106655602

!!! FAKE NEWS ALERT !!!

It was given to Estonians on the Estonian soil and the stupid danes stole it from the Estonian people!

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>>106655308
This
The foundation of the swedish wellfare state was actually built in the thirties and forties, incorporating the wellfare ideas birthed in Nazi Germany at the time, as well as incorporating the ethnic nationalist surge in the population for supporting this wellfare state.
>"We say not to the rich: Please give to the poor. We say: German People, help yourself!" - Adolf Hitler
The remnants of national socialism lived on in the nordic wellfare states after the fall of Germany. Heck, Sweden forcefully sterilized "lesser individuals" from the 1920:s to the 1970:s under Social Democratic rule.
After decades of being an isolated wellfare paradise for the swedish people, Olof Palme opened our borders and the rest you know.

>>106677774

God gave it to Estonians, danish thieves stupid idiots stole it

In Classic scandia society you want to work because you dont wanna feel the shame of betraying the kindness of your brethren. Unfortunately cynicism has reached us with the tides of Darkness and that sense of unity is dying.

>>106677774
>>106677855

Some danish guy will probably correct me but didn't it supposedly land right on top of the Danish king?

>>106673380
>A regulated economy doesn't mean less economic freedom as in prevented from competing freely.
lol yes it does.
You have no idea what "regulated" means.

Do you have 30% tariffs on phones and electronic appliances? Do you have price controls? Luxury goods tax?
That's socialism-tier regulation.
You are not socialist, just rich capitalist countries handing out gibs.

>Statoil is 67(70)% governmental owned and 100% controlled by the government.
Speaks volumes that your largest resource is half-private. Still socialism is a misnomber, most of you companies are private.


>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditure_per_capita
>Both Denmark and Norway in top 15.
I said as a % of GDP not per capita.
Not the same thing at all.

And I'm not a lolibertarian, just a reasonable free market capitalist. Government should only exist to guarantee property rights and to provide defense, law and order, education and (arguably) healthcare.

Every other role is a superfluous burden to the State.

>>106678271
Why dont you copy us then, i thought you were white

>>106677952
I remember reading some old travellers account from 19th century and the guy remarks half of Sweden is in jail for stealing or other crimes.

>>106673380
>>106678271
>A regulated economy doesn't mean less economic freedom as in prevented from competing freely.
Hate to say it, but the Argentinian is correct.
That's exactly what it means.

>>106654452
This, i always Kek when people call them socialist

>>106678471
We have a government right now trying to do just that don't worry. It was elected a year ago.

I don't want to copy you though like I said massive welfare is a burden to the state as it creates negative immigration (people migrating for gibs and not to work), single moms and a host of other problems.

>>106678553
Regulations are necessary, especially when your position is not so advantageous.

>>106678471
Our economic policies are pretty much identical, so I'm confident in asking.. do you seriously think our economic policies are in any way good for growth, jobs, etc?

>>106665760
>>106665861

>Accepting this is a thing in the first place

Why did you Finns let yourself be infected by the Swedish plague so much? You used to be one of the most based country ever

>>106678857
So just restrict immigration. Why are people here always opposing some policies because they could lead to something that's easily prevented?
Scandinavian model is succesful in practice. That makes it better than any retarded theory, especially ones spouted by Austrian retards.

>>106678935
SOME regulation is necessary. I agree there. I'm not saying I want street vendors frying chicken in gutter oil in here.
But how much do you know about the regulations in Nordic countries? They are not "some". The regulations over here are insane.

>>106657866
>citing (((Ludwig von Mises))) on /pol/

wew, lad.

>>106679020
I think they could be modified and updated. Obviously be more nationalistic and startup friendly, but all in all I think we have a solid foundation thats been proven to work, it just needs tuning.

>>106672528
I'm just going to hint that there might be quite a few left that might not have been destroyed yet, due to bureucratic reasons, timetables, paperwork etc. Not that I would know about anything like that for sure, but you never know. Finnish army leadership can be more sly than you give them credit. Just look at the recent "artillery number incident", and history, of course.