How many folks around here shoot nude/semi-nude work with models regularly? Just curious. It's the main thing I do, but I don't post work like that here, just because it's 4chan.
Pic related by Kesler Tran.
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How many of your models have you slept with?
>>3085088
0
Well, there was a friend once, but that a different situation.
>>3085111
Did she give you the herp?
I used to but life got in the way and I lost the motivation.
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>>3085209
Explain more about your situation, please.
>>3085211
We were friends who had been flirting, we took pictures and hooked up. Pictures stayed private.
>>3085209
This is great!
>>3085088
Kesler is not even a real name, I wonder how the fuck they came up with that
>>3085488
Tell this guy that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Kesler
>>3085549
sorry, I forgot to specify: it's not a first name
>>3085558
I'll make sure to tell my brother and everybody else who has a first name that's more common as a last name.
>>3085211
Not sure what do you mean. It might depend on where you are and social circles and so on, but trying to do good portrait/nude work is hard and takes time. And there are a lot of other things that are hard and take time that I also do and they just seem more rewarding, at least right now.
>>3085088
I'd like to do it more OP but I have a hard time convincing girls to come over and get naked and let me take their picture.
Please help. Should I pay them or something?
>>3085670
Paying them always helps. Building your portfolio while shooting women with their clothes on will build valuable experience for when you're paying them to take their clothes off, and once you git gud enough, you can get some to take their clothes off without having to pay them.
I did all the time - but I think that I passed the age where it went from "Hey, was fun everyone! Let's go get drinks after. Friend me on Facebook" to "Is it cool if I took a guy friend to the shoot - and I gotta be out by 8pm."
>>3085927
I guess I started it late enough in life that I never had the first stage. I've always dealt with it being pretty compartmentalized, unless I'm shooting with somebody I'm already friends with.
The models who ask to bring a guy friend make it easy to tell which ones to avoid.
>>3085931
I guess being young made it more fun. It was credible that you were doing it for the pure joy of creating something. Now, just being in the age category of all the creepy "GWC"s out there makes things more strained - even when you really are just doing it because you love shooting.
It's all I do these days.
>>3086734
did you fuck all of them?
>>3087037
No, that's how you end up with a very short photography career and a couple of lawsuits
>>3087087
The whole point is to fuck them, who's going to "end your career" because you fucked one of your models? As long as she wants it (and she's of age) I don't see the problem. You don't have a career, you're probably a nobody anyway, who cares.
>>3085229
Why aren't you posting them like RIGHT NOW?
have you ever arranged a shoot with a model, convinced her to pose naked, then ended up sleeping with her?
asking for a friend
>>3087108
Word travels fast if you make inappropriate advances on models. It can be the end of a nice hobby, at least. A seminude/nude shoot is a situation where the model is already somewhat vulnerable and which she put herself into with the trust that you're not going to do anything weird.
Keep shoots and dates separate.
>>3087108
I think i'm doing good for myself.
>>3085098
almost all of them
hence why I don't shoot girls anymore
>>3087291
I honestly can't even understand what this is supposed to show.
>>3085209
very nice
i've shot nude models before, but recently lost all motivation when one of my closest friends called me out about it
thousands of people could love your work, but it only takes one opinion of someone you trust to cut you fucking deep.
>>3087356
That sucks. What did they say to you?
>>3087356
>one of my closest friends called me out about it
he's right though, there's plenty to do, if you shoot nude models, be ready for the salt
keep doing it tho that's not my point
>>3087291
>not shooting purely RAW photos
in 2010+7
I used to do quite a bit. Nothing professional just something to fill time and I took to it quite well. I haven't done any in a while because like everyone else here I kinda just lost the motivation to.
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May sound like a dumb question but: how do you find models that are willing to do nude? Do you pay them? Where do you find them? Also how are you making them comfortable? I'm not a creepy guy and women usually trust me with problems, I just don't see myself asking that.
>>3087857
Model Mayhem, Craigslist, Instagram, friends of friends. If they've modeled before, you can tell from their photos, usually, whether they'll do nude. Or you put out an ad asking for models. You will find models most easily if you offer pay, but if you build up a good enough portfolio (non-nude or nude), you can sometimes find models who will do nude for free.
I make them comfortable by communicating a lot, making sure they see that I've shot with a lot of other models (who are tagged in my photos and can be contacted on IG), and making sure they have as much agency and decision-making in the process as makes sense. And it's part of my demeanor to make somebody comfortable, I guess.
>>3087861
Oh, and tumblr. I've shot with women who are into the kink scenes there and women who are cam workers.
>>3087857
Same way you find models for anything else. Make a add be, willing to pay, have something to show you know how a camera works.
>>3086734
Tits or gtf---
........proceed
Do you get to touch the model? What happens when you inevitably pop a raging boner? Can you buy their panties afterwards? Man this seems like hard work.
>>3087925
no
hide it and think about something else
no (unless they do this as a business)
It's not hard, just don't be entitled or a creep
>>3087926
>hide it and think about something else
What if it's erotica like metart and rylskyart? Many of the models start plain but get wet and erect nipples as the session progresses. Surely some sexual synergy there would be beneficial to the photography? Nude photographers often have little or no clothing themselves to limit the awkwardness too right?
>>3087944
Porn doesn't work like that. You're not there to get each other off, you're there to make photos to get the viewer off. If the model is wet for a softcore photo, she's wet because the photo calls for it.
It's a job just like anything else. Synergy and mutual attraction between model and photographer helps, sure, but that's true of a lot of jobs. It doesn't mean you fuck on the job, and photographers wear clothes because their sexuality is not what's on display.
"casting couch" and POV stuff can be different in that way, sure.
If you want to shoot and fuck, hire a model on those terms or find a friend who wants to play.
>>3087944
>Nude photographers often have little or no clothing themselves to limit the awkwardness too right?
The fuck are you getting this from?
>>3087291
What the fuck man?
>>3087944
>Surely some sexual synergy there would be beneficial to the photography?
In gonzo porn where you are the photographer and the hired dick and the models are all hookers anyway, maybe.
With sites like the two you mentioned there will be stills and video shooters on set along with assistants to move reflectors about. There will also be make-up artists and wardrobe hovering behind you.
Those kind of shoots are hard work. You are paying your models a lot of money so you need a strong saleable set of pics and video at the end of it. If you just want to get your rocks off go to a hooker.
>>3087866
How do I find those "into the kink scene?"
>>3088462
Search kink-related keywords on Tumblr. Get a Fetlife account.
>>3088464
How does searching for keywords on Tumblr locate those close to me?
How has fetlife worked for you?
>>3088465
You have to start following people who are into that and follow their chains of reblogs until you find somebody in your area. Sometimes people who mainly post self-portraits (often nude, often without faces) are down for working with other photographers. Craigslist/Model Mayhem/Instagram are more efficient ways to find models.
I'm not on Fetlife personally, but I know of other photographers who are.
>>3086734
Anyplace I can see these?
>>3085795
>>3085670
Pay them, look for semi-professional models, avoid working with friends etc. unless you want to use the situation for "seducing" them or some shit. Always, ALWAYS have a third person present when taking nude pictures (like stylist or a female asistant, your friend or something) - helps with the tension, it's always easier if you have a girl asistant and you wanna help your model with hair or something (not all models will be thrilled with you touching them).
Also, and I can't stress this enough - it's a good to have a witness in case you happen to work with a psycho bitch that would like to accuse you of rape for fun or to extort money from you.
If you don't have an assistant and you need to work with a model you don't know - record the whole session on a webcam or spare camera. Yes, it's illegal to record someone without their consent but it's still BETTER than beeing accused of rape. Or you can just have them agree to record the session.
Just watch your back, Anon.
>>3090289
Seconded.