Are vintage lenses worth it if you set aside the nostalgia/collecting aspect of using them?
At first I was enthusiastic about them, but the more I read, the more the whole thing felt like a massive headache. There are issues like radioactive coatings (not a big concern, but not something to be completely dismissed either), glass coloring that has to be removed with UV light, potential mechanical failures due to old lubricants, "bad" and "good" copies of the same model floating around, esoteric differences between sub-models from different batches to be aware of, countless adaptors to choose from (some of them faulty), and then there's the whole business of eBay hunting and dealing with potentially untrustworthy sellers or hidden flaws.
I realized that most of the people frequenting "legacy glass" forums treat buying, fixing and comparing different old lenses as a hobby unto itself, whereas I would be happy to just buy myself a "good enough" 35mm and 50/58mm and be done with it.
I'm perfectly happy with manual focusing, by the way. My two main lenses at the moment are Samyang/Rokinon 12mm and 21mm for APS-C mirrorless and I wouldn't exchange them for their AF equivalents. I'm aware, though, that at narrower distances both AF and image stabilization might come in handy - so maybe that's yet another reason to focus on something more modern?
It depends
Short focal prime lens are really great
Like the Helios 44 or the Olympus 50mm 1.8
Have a look : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYX22a35sKhA0T6ee7uZfvg
>>3041543
old lenses are generally worse than modern lenses (optics, coatings), more likely to be beaten to shit, and since it's such a meme for mirrorless, prices are hugely inflated.
I still buy some cheap ones occasionally, but only to use with vintage cameras, since lens quality/features is way less important there.
>>3041543
My personal experience from using vintage lenses for film work.
Pros:
>Incredibly cheap
>Usually get film bodies thrown in for free
>Solid optical quality in many cases
>Lots of quirks and character
>Super smooth focus/aperture control
>Easy to adapt, attach and modify
Cons:
>Quality control nonexistent
>Confusing production histories and variants
>Hundreds of shitty off-brands
>No electronics
>No fast wides whatsoever
>No fast zooms
Tl;dr, If you do your research and get a good set (I use Takumars) you're laughing.
Nothing wrong with old lenses. No, they're not going to be as sharp, in the corners, wide open as modern lenses, nor will they be as flare resistant. That doesn't mean they don't mostly do well stopped down a couple stops, especially with well designed Nikkors, Zuikos, and FDs.
I get a lot of enjoyment out of the hunt for rare or interesting lenses and finding a good deal on one. I also like cleaning and repairing them. This is a hobby in itself.
I also use them for photography all the time and actually make money with them.
>>3041543
- They're fun
- They're cheap
- Most of them are very well made
- If you decide you don't like a lens you can always sell it for at least what you paid for it (unless you're an idiot and massively overpaid).
Over the last 2 years, with the profits of occasionally browsing auction sites, spotting a few good deals and selling the stuff I don't like I've bought about €1800 in digital gear I think. It's very easy to contract analog G.A.S. though, there's 100 years of cool lenses and cameras, so watch out for that.
old lenses have character. modern lenses are sterile and any "character traits" are seen as cons.
>>3041586
>prices are hugely inflated.
This.
If they were dirt cheap it would make sense.
But at current rates you're better off buying modern lenses.
OP here. Thanks for all the answers.
>>3041586
>>3041807
I have to say the inflated prices of the most famous/recommended lenses are my main concern.
Since I'm not into the whole collecting-and-testing game and all I want is a set of 2-3 basic primes with universal applications (rather than any specific "character" or special effects capabilities, such as swirly bokeh), I would be looking for battle-tested models that are known to work and work well. But it turns out that things like the 35mm/2.4 Flektogon or 50mm/1.4 S-M-C Takumar in good condition reach prices that, while not exactly astronomical, are far from "incredibly cheap" and make them comparable as an investment to modern lenses, which, charmless as they might be, come with a warranty, do not emit radioactive particles from their rear ends and do not suffer from well-documented mechanical faults which can appear out of nowhere.
I guess I will monitor the prices of the things that interest me for next few weeks and see if I can find a real bargain.
>>3041817
Hard to go wrong with nFD 35mm f/2.8 and 50mm f/1.4. You can still get both of them in excellent condition for less than $200. Not as interesting as other lenses but they're good.
>>3041817
I would look into local ads, and estate sales. I have also found a local guy that does the same, CLA's them, and sells them for a small profit, typically $10-20 less than ebay. If you are looking to save money, it usually comes at the cost of legwork.
>>3041543
yes
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>>3041543
they definitely are
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>>3041543
Modern lenses are *very* clearly better... on the high end. Which /p/ mostly won't / can't afford. Modern midrange lenses are still better, but you often don't see it quite as much.
Vintage lenses are an arguably sometimes more interesting alternative to what /p/ would otherwise use.
>>3041848
>Modern lenses are *very* clearly better... on the high end
Nigger please.
There's no better ultrawide than a Hologon.
There are no better normal wides than Biogons.
50mm, 85mm, 100mm, 135mm; all of the reference grade lenses in these focal lengths were film era designs, and for the most part pre-AF designs, until the Otus and Art lenses came out literally just 2 years ago.
Seriously, how high end do you want to go?
And even then, all design is simply a balance of priorities; you could fit a whole kit of Ai-S Nikkors in the box a single Otus 85mm comes in. Do you think the images out of those Nikkors would be disregarded as trash even by someone punching to 100% in the corners on their D810?
Whatt would you rather show up to a gig with?