Tried out my CCD Camera I bought off eBay for $223 using my $120

>>3019052
It's a guiding camera, isn't it?

>>3019127
Uhh it can be used for both.

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>>3020193
No. It is basically a CCD webcam. You want a bigger sensor than that to capture the image, guidecams only good in capturing bright guiding stars. Your image proves it, it gives a worse image than a DSLR on a shitty $10 tripod doing 1s frames.
Pic related

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>>3020294
>>3020193
Might be still good for planetary astro though.

Use it in video mode for planetary and then stack each frame in registax. If you're trying for DSOs, you'll need dozens if not hundreds of long exposures using a small sensor.

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>>3019052
And this person took this photo using a $30 copier lens, a piece of PVC pipe, and an SLR.

http://www.af9y.com/ic417.htm

>>3019052
>>3020369
pwnt

>>3020369

nigga.. that's impressive

>>3020369
Not to mention the $5000 or so mount and the $2000 CCD TV guiding system.
Your point being?

In addition, I am lusting after that setup right now including that DIY drainpipe telescope.

>>3019052
is this a picture of uranus?

>>3020637
no it is urmom

How do I get into deep sky photography (only nebulas, don't care which kind)? I have a DSLR, a 1:1 60mm and a 18-50mm. What else do I need and how far can I get with like 400 bucks?

>>3020643
You will need a 200" Newtonian on an HEQ5 mount, a guidescope and guidecam and BackyardEOS or BackyardNikon.
You can start with a used EQ3 mount or a Star Adventurer on a good sturdy tripod and an 80 size small refractor around 400-450mm but that won't give you the best DSO resolution but relatively more forgiving.
Still, $400 won't be enough to start out with that starting kit.
$400 alone is the mount, you might need a tripod as well, you need the telescope, other accessories as well.
Come back when you have $1000 or so.

>>3019052
God loves a tryer Matthew.

Please get an EQ mount. I implore you. A shitty EQ3/5 with basic drives and no goto will track for ages (depending on focal length and polar alignment). A really cheap 400mm f8 lens (not mirror) for your DSLR would be ideal for brighter DSOs.

You seem to have aquired the astro bug but have ignored all the advice given to you so far. Stop buying shit off Amazon and go back to basics. Can't afford the swanky adapter? Use gaffa tape and a Pringles tube.

You don't need to spend a fortune on kit to get into Astronomical photography. It's about the $10 details.

>>3020650
>Come back when you have $1000 or so.
Barn door tracker + achromat = free.

>>3020726
Only if your time worth nothing.
And you still have to pay for the achromat and the sturdy tripod to attach the barn door mechanism, plus two heads, preferably one geared.
And still not enough accuracy for wide field.

>>3020730
Opinion discarded

>>3020772
Opinion? You mean reality, right?

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>>3020294
Are you stupid? It can be used as a autoguider course you'd know that if you read telescope.com or googled the CCD name.

>>3020294
Trolling a CCD camera that is being used a a telescope not designed for astrophotography with?

>>3020369

Looks like shit too much white shit that shouldn't be in the picture looks like a terrible Photoshop brush effect.

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>>3020294
Focal length?

>>3022385
Shitty old Sigma 400/5.6 MF. It's a bitch to get properly in focus and has the notorious uniform dust layer issue in the focusing group.
Since then I got a better tripod and a mediocre tracking system so no need for dodging the nebulosity.

>>3022280
Are you the same autist who is trolling the board with Sony and Fuji?

>>3020650
i have the $1000 or so and want to get into astro with my d7100.
.
Please continue to elaborate

>>3022497
I can't really suggest one over the other, but generally, you want a good tracking mount and a scope. You don't need to bother with auto guiding first.
For a scope, you will want to start with wide field, a small refractor like an 80'' size one with around 400-450mm. You can get images of larger nebulae structures with it, or a 50mm lens for one as big as the Orion Loop.
For the mount get something like an EQ3 or EQ5, maybe if you have the budget look for the option for the auto guiding control. Current alternatives to traditional equatorial mounts are the Astrotrac and Star Adventurer.
Best tip I can give is before you spend any money, ask around your local astronomer club, ask for help and tips and see if they have any stuff for sale.
Also look up stargazing lounge, cloudynights and similar websites. Watch Forrest Tanaka's astro tutorials on YT and other astro videos you can learn from.

>>3022419
what's wrong with people with autism? 90% of all the smartest people in the world were autistic is this your sad attempt at trying to have a come back?

>>3022737
>90% of all the smartest people in the world were autistic
post source

>>3022738
Welp I'll give you a few names to help you look into that for yourself.
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Dan Aykoyrd, Albert Einstein, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Tim Burton ect.. Feel free to Google Famous people with Autism I'm sure the list goes on.
SOURCE:
https://www.babble.com/entertainment/famous-people-with-autism-2/

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>>3020294
This is so sad the image has no meta data in it at all to prove it was not edited or tampered with.
>>3019052
Taken straight from the CCD camera was not edited in anyway.

Huge difference from your picture, How about you try taking that picture again and keep the meta data in it next time >>3020294

>>3023033
Just so you know, every astro image is a composite from stacking many light frames, dark frames, flat frames etc...
Nobody takes a single shot and calls it a day. Many astronomers take months to get enough good data to stack an image of a single object.

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Sooooo is this an Astro thread?

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>>3025184
This was 8 pictures taken on my nikon d3200 and rokinon14mm panorama stitched in photoshop.
The aurora almost ruined my shot but then when it arced perfectly underneath the milky way I love the way it turned out.

>>3019052
>$223
>$120
>$400

I think you need to re-examine your priorities.

>>3020369
How can I get into film astrophotography?

>>3025184
>>3025186
Stupid question.. does the 22 seconds in your EXIF mean anything? 22 seconds over 8 shots? 22 seconds on each of the shots? or does it mean nothing?

>>3025258
Each of the 8 shots were 22 seconds at a slightly different angle. one shot lower catching the horizon followed by one at a higher angle into the sky, The move to the left and repeat. It's recommended to overlap the shots about 40% so it took 4 shots across to get the whole milky way arc, then 4 shots at a higher angle to capture more of the sky. The exif Data is all 100% correct for each shot, they were all 22 seconds on a 14mm lens f stop 2.8 at iso 3200

>>3025261
Could you still do it with a 18-55 f3.5?

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>>3025263
Yeah man, I was shooting on my kit lens untill today, This was my very first night out with my new Rokinon. This shot here was taken with my kit lens back in October

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>>3025263
The hardest part about shooting with the kit lense is getting focus. That took me a while to get down since you can't just set it to focus infinity. This was one of my first milky way shots ever and you'll notice the focus is quite a bit off.

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>>3025261
it's >>3025258
Thanks for the insight. Looking into maybe trying some astro to see how addicting it is.. seems cool though. Go outside at night and bundle up with a thermos and some bros and go shoot stars.

>>3025248
Don't. There is much more you can do with digital, mainly because digital sensors are linear and respond well to stacking. You can bring out a lot with a cheap DSLR like an SL1 that is impossible or takes a whole lot of time on film.

>>3025269
Always go into liveview and magnify on a bright star. Your focus will be much more precise.
You can make a focusing aid called a bahnitov mask from two pieces of mosquito net. Take one half parallel to the net then another half 45° to the net and glue them together with hot glue. Put it on your lens and you can focus even better with aligning the diffraction spikes.

>>3025299
Live view is how I got it into that focus. But it's hard to be super precise sometimes.

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First night out doing astros. rokinon 14mm on a 7d

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>>3026157
Keep ISO at 400 and below on Canon sensors, 800 and below on Nikon/Pentax sensors.
Much less noise, much more detail in the milky way nebulosity, 14mm gives enough exposure time with minimal streaking.
On a Canon sensor at ISO 3200 you have less than 7 EV of DR and very minimal gamut in the captured details, this is why it looks so noisy with no detail. Also get an iOptron or Skywatcher tracking head and stack the tracked sky exposure with the still foreground exposure.

>>3026297
>under 7 EV
sorry I misremembered
http://www.clarkvision.com/photoinfo/evaluation-canon-7d/index.html
Look at Table 1, at ISO 3200 you have the signal strength of 1020 electrons out of the possible 24800 of ISO 100

I have a Meade EXT 125 with the deluxe feild tripod, which I attach my Nikon D5500 to and use as the lens. I've been able to get some good pic's but need to setup some sort of guide system so I can photagraph nebula and whatnot. can anyone recomend a cheap DIY way to set something up? I have a laptop and cables to hook the guide system of the EXT to the laptop but need to build some sort of guide scope. My budget is a few hundred any help would be great.

I'd like to approach astrophotography, I'm more interested in planetary.

One problem is that I live in Japan, and here it's difficult to find western stuff for a reasonable price, and on the other hand, there are usually no decent reviews of things made in japan, being it in English or Japanese.

On Amazon jp, the only options with a >100mm aperture and a reasonable price are these, do any of these sound good to start with?

https://www.amazon.co.jp/Kenko-Explorer-%E5%8F%A3%E5%BE%84120mm-%E7%84%A6%E7%82%B9%E8%B7%9D%E9%9B%A21000mm-491911/dp/B00DJMJV2O/ref=sr_1_3?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1488116369&sr=1-3&keywords=%E6%9C%9B%E9%81%A0%E9%8F%A1&th=1

F 8.3, Aperture 120mm, focal length 1000mm (just the telescope, no mount or trippod) 450 dollars


https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E5%9B%BD%E5%86%85%E6%AD%A3%E8%A6%8F%E5%93%81-CELESTRON-%E3%82%A2%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%83%AD%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC-%E7%84%A6%E7%82%B9%E8%B7%9D%E9%9B%A21000mm-CE31042/dp/B00DOPO2FC/ref=sr_1_4?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1488116369&sr=1-4&keywords=%E6%9C%9B%E9%81%A0%E9%8F%A1

F 8.77, Aperture 114mm, focal length 1000mm, 300 dollars


https://www.amazon.co.jp/LX70-120-%E3%82%A2%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88-%E5%8F%A3%E5%BE%84120mm-%E7%84%A6%E7%82%B9%E8%B7%9D%E9%9B%A21000mm-602102/dp/B01LC15ZHS/ref=sr_1_7?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1488116369&sr=1-7&keywords=%E6%9C%9B%E9%81%A0%E9%8F%A1&th=1

Just the telescope, two variants (the other two don't interest me): -F 8.3, Aperture 120mm, focal length 1000mm, 320 dollars -F 5, Aperture 200mm, focal length 1000mm, 350 dollars


https://www.amazon.co.jp/Explorer-SE200N-%E5%8F%A3%E5%BE%84200%EF%BD%8D%EF%BD%8D-%E7%84%A6%E7%82%B9%E8%B7%9D%E9%9B%A21000%EF%BD%8D%EF%BD%8D-%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A5%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%B3%E5%BC%8F/dp/B009RI6LA4/ref=sr_1_8?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1488116369&sr=1-8&keywords=%E6%9C%9B%E9%81%A0%E9%8F%A1&th=1

-F 5, Aperture 200mm, focal length 1000mm, (just the telescope) 420 dollars

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>>3028845
What you want is a tracking mount. Either an EQ3 or EQ5 will do with a decent polar scope (clock-like markings)
If the scope has a tracking mount all you need is an equatorial wedge and the polar scope I mentioned. It will be great for planetary photos but don't expect to have any results with DSOs and nebulae, the scope is too long and dark, you need a wider field of view and bigger aperture for nebulas.
It is better to get an 80'' small refractor around 400mm focal length and an EQ3 tracking mount. You can also use old manual focus telephoto lens as a scope, 300mm on APS-C will give good results, 135mm and 50mm for wider stuff. You will need 50mm for the Orion nebulae complex for example.
Consult your local astronomer's club and shop for more specific help, /p/ is just dicking around with astro except for that swiss reflectorfag guy.
Pic related is his work.